December 17, 2024 • 30 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – An in-depth conversation with The Way Brothers; Chapman and Maclain, who join the program to preview their new Netflix docuseries ‘Kings of Tupelo: A Southern Crime Saga,’ which follows the “stranger-than-fiction story of an Elvis impersonator that finds himself embroiled in a small-town that is so bizarre it must be seen to be believed” … PLUS – A look at the Weekend Box Office & a quick review of the new Taron Egerton Netflix action thriller ‘Carry-On’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about a small town feud in
Mississippi which escalates into an all out war. From emby
award winning directors McLain way and Chapman Way, comes the
new three episode documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a
Southern crime saga now streaming on Netflix. It might be
the strangest yet truest story ever told. It has an
Elvis impersonator, a taekwondo instructor in elephant which was shot
(00:29):
to drive by a tiny dog with the tranquilizers of
means of revenge, and oh yeah, an attempt to assassinate
then President Obama with rice and can't leave that out. Yes,
a true story.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Please say.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Their investigation began from an anonymous tip.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I told the FBI, we have a strange individual.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I had the most controversial story in the entire state
of Mississippi and possibly the entire country.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
My mama raised me on Jesus and all this incormborating.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Yes, in that order.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
I had a peaceful and nice life, but one person
hated me.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
And made my life a living hail.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
James Everett Dusky, a karate instructure in Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Kutsch Key Dusky Dusky.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
We called him douchebag.
Speaker 9 (01:14):
I'm Jay of Erdusky, and I approved this message.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
I could have never dreamed how it turned into such
a scandal.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
This is my rival enemy stalking every move I made.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Suck it, Kevin. This thing became a war.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
My neighbor called your houses on fire.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
These two had a Napoleonic syndrome. Little men trying to
be big? I said, what's stalkul me?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I have nothing to do with this?
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Are you having an affair with my wife?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Maybe we crossed the line?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
How far were this goat?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We're following new development for Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
Who mailed poison filed letters for the President of the
United States.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
A Mississippi congressman and US senator targeted.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
He'll be charged with an attempt to kill the President
of the United States.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
During my twenty five years in the Bureau, I've described
this case as the craziest in my career.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Some of our people are very insane.
Speaker 10 (02:03):
I shot my dog with a tranquilizer little mookas anything suspicious.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Everybody has something suspicious in their house.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
How do you go from a few with a former
friend to sending rising from the president I station that's a.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Bad no note. I still don't even understand all of it.
Of an elephant was shot in a drive by shooting.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Just found a serverhop you is said to be an
Elvis impersonator obsessed with conspiracies.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Welcome to Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Joining me now in the show our code directors McLain
and Chapman Way. You may also know them from their
outstanding untold sports documentary series and Wild Wild Country, also
on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Gentlemen, thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That thank you for having us. We're excited to talk
about it. It's a banana.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Story, Chapman. Let's start there, Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
As I said in my introduction, in just three episodes,
we will see a taekwondo instructor slash Elvis impersonator, learn
of an elephant shot and to drive by, an attempt
to kill President Obama with rice, then a dog shot
with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
And that's just for starters, right, that's just.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The beginning of the madness.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, we you know, we had a recollection of this
you know, happening in twenty thirteen when an Elvis impersonator
was arrested for trying to assassinate President Barack Obama with
poisonous letters, and.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So it seemed like such an odd, bizarre story.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Mac and I flew out the two below in twenty
twenty one to meet with Paul Kevin Curtis, the main character,
find out what happened here, you know, what is this
story about, and quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Kind of just uncovered so much more than we could
have ever bargained for.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You know, Kevin's story starts with finding a severed head
in a hospital working as a janitor. And that's kind
of the first step in this journey, so to speak,
just to give you a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Taste, mclaan or Mac is some douke call you. That's
the first step or the first part this. But tell
me more about these former friends turned dangerous rivals.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Do we know what started the few? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So it sure to give a little context. Kevin's journey
is a complicated.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
One, but it certainly is what explains of kind of
where this story starts and where it begins. So to
pick pick up or chapelift up Kevin, He's Elvison personator
in Tuo Blowsissippi. He's working at a janitor in a hospital,
finds a severed head in a mort and what Kevin
becomes convinced of is that there is a black market
organ body parts trade happening in Tuplow, Mississippi. That leads
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him to want to create his own House bill resolution,
you need a state representative from Mississippi to.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Pass a House bill resolution.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
That gets him to Steve Holland, who himself as a
state representative. Steve Holland is also a funeral homeowner, which
is a central part of Kevin's black market body conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That then takes him to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (04:46):
To the city US Senator Roger Wicker, who's from Mississippi.
Kevin performs as an Elvis and one of Roger Wicker's weddings,
and then that ultimately leads him to President of Brock
Obama to try to try and get this chaos pass.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now, in the midst of that, he makes a lot
of enemies. One of these enemies that he makes is.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
A karate instructor Tupelo, a man named James Everett dutch Key.
Now Kevin ultimately gets ends up getting arrested for sending
these poisonous letters to Obama, to Wicker, to Holland. But
I'll leave it at this because a big portion is
did Kevin do it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did he not? That was a big part of his innocence,
which involves James ever.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Dutchby's story Chap And I've never been to Mississippi, and
given this story, I don't think I will ever go
to Mississippi. But this sounds like it could only happened
in Mississippi. What is it about this state which lends
itself to this type of weirdness and mayhem?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, we quickly.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Realized, you know, flying out there and then meeting a
lot of the people in tu Blow and surrounding areas,
that you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They're very proud of their eccentricity.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's something they wear. It's a badge of honor. They
wear it on their sleeve. They embrace it. Which was
incredible for us as filmmakers and storytellers. And quickly realized
that it was just like a murderer's row of talking
heads of storytellers. All these people can can weave an
incredible yarn to spinning yarn. They can heighten stories, they
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can embellish stories. Sometimes some untruths are even thrown into
these stories and really became a big part of making
this series is what is real, what is not, what's fact,
what's fiction?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What really happened here?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And it's part of the fun of the roller coaster,
of going on the watching the Kings of Tupla.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Maybe that's the app description, Mac, because when when Chap
says roller coaster, we get on a ride, we expect
to enjoy it, we want the thrill. But nobody dies.
How is it nobody died in this story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a great question.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
I've been asked that one yet, and maybe some people
came close.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Because I don't want to spoil too much.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
But there's a judge who does take a sniff of
these rising letters, and she's older, but even she was
able to survive. But I think had this thing kept
on eating up, I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Think someone might ended up in the ground. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
I know that an elephant got shot, like Chad mentioned,
Kevin's dog got tranquilized.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But everyone made it out of this story alive.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
That we know, Chap.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm quite sure when you and Max started researching this story,
you probably thought one thing or thought the story might
have been told one way, but then it probably grew
the more you investigated, the more people that you talked to,
and became even more incredible than you originally thought.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
What we initially thought was just going to be a
story about a feud basically turned into this massive conspiracy
rabbit hole of severed heads and the black market organ
trade happening in the South and around the world, and
so it took us down a rabbit hole of trying
to figure out what's going on here, how this all works,
and there's just yeah, I mean, it was never a
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shortage of shocking events. I mean, Kevin's house burns down
to the ground during this conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Rabbit holes, car is blown up.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I mean, it's just kind of nonstot madness and figuring
out who's responsible, who is behind this, what's going on
is part of the investigative process of the audience gets
to go on when they watch it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Gentlemen, let's take a brief pause and then we can
pick up our conversation. There's so much I do want
to cover with you as we talk about The Kings
of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now available on Netflix.
My guess right now are Chapman and McLain way, the
co directors of the Kings of Tupelo. Will have more
in just a moment. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
(08:27):
AM six forty. We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I'm right in the middle of an incredible conversation
with co directors. Brothers fantastic filmmakers Chapman Way and McLain way.
They are co directors of the new three episode documentary
series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now
available on Netflix. The story is seemingly unbelievable, but it
(09:01):
is all true. It has an Elvis impersonator slashing a
taekwondo instructor, an elephant which was shot in a drive
by shooting, not kidding, a tiny dog shot with a
tranquilizer as a means of revenge, and oh yeah, an
attempt to assassinate then President Obama with rising.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
FBI, Secret Service, US Capitol Police, Postal Service, National Guard
on insecurity Senate daily talks in to the US President.
There's a lot of folks going to start trying to
figure out who you are.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I really didn't know why this particular individual shows me,
but sending the letter to the president was a grave,
grave mistake on his part.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
The first step of the investigation we needed to do
some link analysis. The envelopes were all postmarked Memphis, Tennessee.
When they go through the postal service, their stand with
a bar code, and the bar code indicated that the
originating office was Tuplo, Mississippi. So Tuplo became ground zero
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for this operation.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It is incredible, but it is now part of the
three part documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern
crime Saga and Mac take me into the creation process.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You have all this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Raw video and stories that you didn't know prior to
starting on this journey. How do you and your brother,
your co directors sit down and try to make some
sense out of the seeming nonsense and tell a coherent
story across maybe three episodes.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
It's a great question because a part of the story
is a confusing conspiracy theory that as filmmakers you then
need to break down and process and make conspiracy, which
doesn't really make a lot of sense kind of makes
sense to an audience.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so that was a bit of a two and
a half year journey.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Now what's helpful is we probably had sixty shoot days,
and we interviewed people for a really long time. Listen,
I think we interviewed Kevin for four or five NonStop days.
We interviewed his former wife Laura for two days. We
interviewed Steve Holland, who's one of our main character, for
three days, and you're just pulling all this information out
of it. I will say this, one of the things
that we got lucky on is there's a tremendous amount
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of archive footage in the series, and that's because we
got a lot of that archive footage from the FBI themselves.
Because the FBI rated both Paul Kevin Curtis's house and
James Everett Dutchby's house. They pick up all their hard drives,
they pick up all their tapes, they pick up all
their video cameras, and it's been kept in storage for the.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Last eleven years.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
So for us, that was a God said because all
of a sudden, all this footage shows up on our
doorstep and it's perfectly organized and that's because the FBI
were the people that controlled this media for quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Let me close with this one question. They seem simple,
but I know it's not. First to you, Chap, what
was your takeaway from doing this project, from learning this
story which is a little bit different from Wild Wold
Country or maybe not or different from Untold.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, I think the big takeaway for me was kind
of the insight into the birth of internet and internet
conspiracies and the rabbit holes and how do people find
themselves going.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Down these rabbit holes and what does it provide to them.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Maybe it's a sense of validation, a sense of importance,
a sense of meaning, and so I think it's like, obviously,
conspiracies have become such a huge part of our culture today.
So I think this story kind of is shows you
a window into a time much earlier in our country
when the kind of birth of all this stuff was happening.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Mac last word to.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
You, Yeah, for me, it was I'm excited to get
to introduce audiences to this really unique town of Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It was certainly my experience there.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think that Tupelo is the only place where a
kid could have been born in a shotgun shack and
he rises to become the king of rock and roll.
And I think that that has an impact on the
talent CITI, since I think a lot of these people
have very big dreams, aspirations, ideals of right and wrong,
and for us we got to just kind of press
record and let them go.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And that's certainly what our documentary series is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He is mac Atan McLain way and alongside of his
brother Chapman Way, they are co directors of the new
three episode documentary series The Kings of Two Plow, a
Southern crime saga, now available on Netflix. Gentlemen, thank you
so much for doing this. I don't know how you
did it, but I'm glad you did it. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thanks so much, Bill, I'm really fun conversation. Thanks for
having us on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And the box office floor this last weekend. Some of
it was not so surprising. We heard the movie reviews
of both Mark Runner and to Wallace Sharp or the
movie Craven the Hunter. Mark Roger paraphrasing is a double
code brown and to Walla Sharp said it was probably
one of the worst movies ever, ever, ever. I expected
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it would do about fifteen million domestically. It didn't even
get that much. It got eleven million domestically, fifteen million internationally,
twenty six million worldwide against one hundred and ten million
dollar budget. It probably won't be in theaters all that long.
It's only in thirty two hundred theaters right now. It'll
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probably lose a third of that this week. It doesn't
look good for Craving the Hunter. Nothing but horrible reviews,
and I think this will probably It hasn't been announced
that Aaron Taylor Johnson's going to be Bond the next Bond,
but if that contract is not signed, this does not
(14:57):
help at all as far as the Bankableste.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
Yeah, you really don't want Craven as the top line
on your resume, do you.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Not the most recent starring vehicle that you've been in.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
It's such a bad movie that it's fun to hear
people talk about it. I spend a little time over
the weekend looking at YouTube reviews, and people are just, well,
let's say they're lifting a leg on it. It's fun
like in a fire hydrants something like that. Okay, well,
it came in number three this week. Believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Number one is still Moana two. It's in its third
week of release. It is still very healthy the box
office twenty six point five million domestically. It's worldwide total
is now almost three quarters of a billion dollars seven
hundred and seventeen million, eight hundred thousand, and it's still
pretty evenly balanced. Three thirty seven domestically, three eighty internationally,
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and it has an outside chance of hitting a billion dollars.
I don't know that it will, but it'll get pretty
darn close. Number two again is Wicked. Came in with
another healthy week of twenty two point six million, and
it is now cross It has now crossed the half
billion dollar mark.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I saw that again again, yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And that's what it needs for any movie to get
close to a billion dollars or even three quarters of
a billion. You have to have people who are willing
to see it multiple times. I see it again. I'd
actually see it again. Did you see it by yourself
with your children again?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
I saw it with my daughter, Defferd of mine had
a birthday party at AMC.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
She ran out of the theater. We all went.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Coming in number four is Gladiator two. I think it's
much more appreciated internationally than domestically. I haven't seen the movie.
I haven't gotten around to it. I may see it
sometime this holiday season. But it's up to four hundred
billion dollars worldwide. It's making money. How much I don't know,
but it's making money. Number five is Lord of the Rings,
(16:56):
The War of the Robber Room or wherever it is.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It's I am wait, what's that word? Ropper room? Yeah?
The war him?
Speaker 10 (17:03):
Well, who the War of the War him, War of.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The Not familiar with it, but it came in number
five this week. It banked another four point five million,
for a total of ten million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
I heard this is quite possibly one of the best
iterations of anything on the big screen that's ever been
done with Lords and Rings because it's animated, it moves fast,
and it's like pure action. Yeah, got a lot of
walking in because live action is walking and talking. I
know it's expensive, but it's walking and talking to one
of the anime one of those meetings of the elves
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laying out exposition for fifteen minutes, Oh my gosh, while
staring out over an open plain field.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean, there are things that you can cut out
of these movies. None of those movies need to be
three hours, none of them. I dropped them after the
second one. Yeah, I didn't see.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
What was it? Small? That was the Hobbit, right, wasn't it?
If you say so?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I did see Return of the King in theaters,
and I think the last hour was nothing but walking
and talking. And I gave up to that because it
kept looking like he was going to end, No, it's
not Indy. Then it looked like he was gonna end, No,
it's not Indy, and it just kept being dragged out.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
I would never watch another Lord of the Rings movie
in theaters.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Is there something you don't like about prolonged cgi orc
elf battles?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, no, there weren't enough battles actually to justify the three
hour movie.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
That was my issue. I just flatlined it the whole thing.
There was so much walking and so much talking.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yes, I know it's a long journey, but you don't
have to show me the actual long journey.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
No, we don't need to go on the actual journey.
Yeah we can. We just do a montage real quick
and we're there. No, the montages were long.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
Hello, those walking montages were those like thirty minutes by themselves.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, we can have a short cut from the short
cut anyhow. That came in. Number five. Number six is
read One, still hanging on four point two million.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And that's fine, Yes it is, And that's when I
was gonna watch it and where I was gonna watch it.
Number eight is Interstellar. It is still in the hanging
around the top ten. It's made since it's a ten
year re release, it's made twenty one million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
It probably will do better than Craven. Well, you gotta
admit that is one to see on a big screen.
All of Nolan's movies are Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I can be hard on Interstellar as far as it's
big reveal, but the movie. One thing I like about
Christopher Nolan is he's a very ambitious director. He is
going to try these big concept movies and sometimes he misses.
Tenant was a miss, but I like the concept. I
liked the attempt. I just didn't care for the execution.
(19:54):
Special effects were great. Yeah, inception, big idea movie. Didn't
like everything about it, but I was not mad about
it when.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I saw it. I love Inception.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No, I'm just saying he has big concepts and their
original ideas, and he's willing to throw all the money
in the world at them. So I have no problem
watching anything Nolan. Anything was the Bomb movie good? I
can't remember what you said.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About that one. I liked it, didn't love it. Okay,
wait the what the Bomb Oppenheimer? Oh yeah, oh you
know it wasn't enough Bomb. That's not even my favorite
movie of his.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
It's it's worth seeing, for sure, but it's it's I
don't think that's his biggest home run by any stretch,
even though it was the most critically lauded.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Absolutely. I mean I liked it because I knew the history.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I did a book report, exposa and a famous person
back in grade school on Robert Oppenheimer, so I was
already familiar with it in a nostalgic sort of way,
not to be morbid.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But the movie didn't have enough about the bomb.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I didn't care as much about the person and his
friends and you know, his adulterous lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
I didn't care anything about that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
In the movie about the Adam Baum, the Adam Bomb
should have been the star and it wasn't. That Adam
Bomb should have been vying for an Academy Award, and
it wasn't.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I thought that the movie had a lot of interesting sexuality.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It did a lot of people wanted to see. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was nudity and everything that I was non plus
by that because I wasn't there for that type of movie.
And I know they have to make a certain movie
to get as many people interested in it as possible.
But I would have been just fine with a bunch
of nerdy scenes in of scientists getting around the table
and trying to figure this out and all the problems
(21:43):
that they had along the way. They did do some
montages for that, but I wanted more of that storyline
and less about his mistress.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I just didn't care.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
The bottom line on the Oppenheimer movie is that it
raised Killy and Murphy's profile high enough so that we're
finally going to get a Peaky Blinder's movie.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
You sure about that?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I am sure about that, Okay, all right, But I
don't want to have that movie to use that as
a as a jetway to another movie. I want the
movie to be able to stand on his own and
I was really looking forward to Oppenheimer.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I liked it, did not love it same, although it's
boring when we agree. Yeah, let's find something to disagree. Yeah,
please Kittlins. You're wrong about chitlins. That's the hill I'm
gonna die on. You have to eat some about chitlins sucks. No,
my opinion is they they're horrible and they're nasty. But
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my opinion is also you need to try some. Okay,
that's not gonna happen. Time for the news.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
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Speaker 2 (22:50):
Before we go, I did want to give you a short, quick,
down and dirty review of this new Netflix movie called
Carry On It.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I think it dropped back on Friday.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It has what was his name, Tarren Edgerton, Yeah, Jason Bateman,
Jason Bateman, and some other people that you will probably
recognize by face, middle level actors if you've seen Kingsman, Yeah, Kingsman, Yeah,
you'll recognize him. But there was another actor in it
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which you know by face, if you've seen like Luke Cage.
He was Luke Cage theo Rossi. He was also in
one of the Disney Plus shows recently. But there are
a lot of recognizable faces in this and the premise
is pretty simple.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Tarreon Edgerton plays a TSA agent.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's grossly lazy, uninspired in his life, just caught in
a rut, unassuming guy, the last person you think he's
going to be a hero.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Well he's going to be a hero in this movie.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And he is working TSA line and then a series
of events which happens where he has to make a
decision to either endanger a flight or have his girlfriend killed.
You know, these impossible decisions he has to make. It's
part die Hard, part movie red Eye. It's reminiscent of
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every movie that you've seen. There's nothing new in it
except as kind of updated for technology. The problem with
the movie like this is, and it's not bad, it's
just that for me, I know enough about how airports work,
in airport security to know that nothing in this movie
could happen, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I'm gonna watch it because that's just kind of my
kind of movie. But you will yell at the screen side,
there's no way that could happen.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
Well, the title itself is so uninspiring. Carry on, is
there gonna be a sequel called three point five ounce Bottle?
It doesn't really thrill you to the marrow of your bones.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well, I'm all about motivations as well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And when you find out the con seat or the MacGuffin,
you think like, well, the bad guys, this was their
best idea. They sunk all their money and all their
brain power into this particular plan to accomplish that particular end.
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It doesn't make sense because once it all is revealed
what they're trying to do and why they're trying to
do it, your instantaneous thought will be well, I would
have just done X, y Z would have been a
whole lot easier, and.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
You would be right.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Because these are supposedly powerful people, can do all sorts
of powerful things. They're trying to use a really backwards
way to get what they need done, because they show
you that these are powerful people, puppet strings pulling things.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
They have all sorts of money and power, and this
is their.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Plan to that they chose to get what they needed
done to get done.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
They're just a lot of holes in it. All that said,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was washing my clothes and watching the movie. I
was eating breakfast and watching the movie. I was feeding
the dogs and watching the movie. It doesn't require your
full attention, but it's part of your Netflix subscription.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
When I say it's a low budget, I don't mean
that in a dismissive way. I'm saying it takes place
all in one or two locations, so they didn't have
to spend a lot of money. It is set air
quotes at lax, and that's another drawback for me.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I know lax.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You know lax, And there are some establishing shots which
are lax, but then they show some other airport.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Which is clearly not lax.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It might have been CGI for all I know, because
it just wasn't lax, because we always we know what
the arrival and departure terminals look like when you're pulling up.
It's just not lax. And if you can get past
all that, it's fine. It's two hours is about an
hour and forty minutes too long. It was basically a
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thirty minute TV show.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
I would watch a movie about a friendship ending over
one person asking to be driven to lax.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
There has some of the there is some of that. Okay,
there is some of that.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, but Terarreed Edgerton his character, he's tsa agent.
His girlfriend, the female lead, she's like a, I don't know,
she does something at the airport, you know, ground control
for Major Tom.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She does something at the airport, which is important later on,
and you know they they're a couple.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Some backstory. She just finds out she's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So that's the predicate for everything which happens on that
particular day.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Well, listening to you describe, it sounds like something that
could have been generated by an. AI was waiting for
you to tell me what the inciting insul was.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh no, Mark, when you watch this, I'm not saying
it was created by AI. I'm just saying it's not
it's not believable. It's not all that inspired ing. But
it's fine in a TV movie of the week sort
of way. If you're old enough to remember those TV movies.
Oh are you kidding me? It fits perfectly in that mold.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Listen, I have a whole YouTube playlist filled with seventies
TV movies. Those things were entertaining.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, this is not even as good as the movie
like Airport seventy seven George Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
It's nothing like that. It's nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's all self contained in one or two set locations,
a lot of walking, a lot of talking, a.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Lot of dialogue, a lot of dialogue.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
It seems like Arren Edgerton's kind of been on the
edge of being a huge star for a really long
time and hasn't quite gotten to the tipping point. Those
Kingsman movies are really entertaining.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
They are.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
This is not that okay, but I will say this.
I saw Teron Edgerton. He's like thirty something. He's like thirty.
He looks in the face like he could be ready
for a James Bond level role. Really, that's a bold statement. Yes,
this movie is not the vehicle for that, but there's
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enough physicality in it where you can see like they're
trying to change because he had this baby face forever,
and like in the Kingsman movies, you can tell his
face he's not babyfaced anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
He looks like he's growing in.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He's a grown ass man now, and I think the
roles will start shifting accordingly.
Speaker 10 (29:32):
What do you think about him as Wolverine. There's been
talk of that. I can see that, you can I
can see that.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I don't know if he could pull it off, but
I'm saying, with the right makeup and everything, yes he's
young enough, Yes I can see it.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Huh, all right, well, but then let me know see it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I wouldn't expect too much from it, but it's it's
enjoyable enough. I would not you know, if I went
to see in the theater, I'd be cussing at the screen.
But if as part of my Netflix subscription, yeah, sure,
why not.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
I think half the movies on Netflix, huluin some of
these other services are designed to be just have on
while you're doing other stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Mission accomplished. Yeah, it's later with Mo Kelly. We're live
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Speaker 6 (30:13):
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Speaker 10 (30:18):
I'm k os T HD two, Los Angeles, Orange County
Live everywhere on the
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Let me tell you about a small town feud in
Mississippi which escalates into an all out war. From emby
award winning directors McLain way and Chapman Way, comes the
new three episode documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a
Southern crime saga now streaming on Netflix. It might be
the strangest yet truest story ever told. It has an
Elvis impersonator, a taekwondo instructor in elephant which was shot
(00:29):
to drive by a tiny dog with the tranquilizers of
means of revenge, and oh yeah, an attempt to assassinate
then President Obama with rice and can't leave that out. Yes,
a true story.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Please say.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Their investigation began from an anonymous tip.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
I told the FBI, we have a strange individual.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I had the most controversial story in the entire state
of Mississippi and possibly the entire country.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
My mama raised me on Jesus and all this incormborating.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
Yes, in that order.
Speaker 7 (01:00):
I had a peaceful and nice life, but one person
hated me.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
And made my life a living hail.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
James Everett Dusky, a karate instructure in Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Kutsch Key Dusky Dusky.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
We called him douchebag.
Speaker 9 (01:14):
I'm Jay of Erdusky, and I approved this message.
Speaker 6 (01:17):
I could have never dreamed how it turned into such
a scandal.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
This is my rival enemy stalking every move I made.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Suck it, Kevin. This thing became a war.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
My neighbor called your houses on fire.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
These two had a Napoleonic syndrome. Little men trying to
be big? I said, what's stalkul me?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I have nothing to do with this?
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Are you having an affair with my wife?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Maybe we crossed the line?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
How far were this goat?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
We're following new development for Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 10 (01:44):
Who mailed poison filed letters for the President of the
United States.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
A Mississippi congressman and US senator targeted.
Speaker 7 (01:51):
He'll be charged with an attempt to kill the President
of the United States.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
During my twenty five years in the Bureau, I've described
this case as the craziest in my career.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Some of our people are very insane.
Speaker 10 (02:03):
I shot my dog with a tranquilizer little mookas anything suspicious.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Everybody has something suspicious in their house.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
How do you go from a few with a former
friend to sending rising from the president I station that's a.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Bad no note. I still don't even understand all of it.
Of an elephant was shot in a drive by shooting.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Just found a serverhop you is said to be an
Elvis impersonator obsessed with conspiracies.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Welcome to Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Joining me now in the show our code directors McLain
and Chapman Way. You may also know them from their
outstanding untold sports documentary series and Wild Wild Country, also
on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Gentlemen, thank you for coming on tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
That thank you for having us. We're excited to talk
about it. It's a banana.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Story, Chapman. Let's start there, Chapman.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
As I said in my introduction, in just three episodes,
we will see a taekwondo instructor slash Elvis impersonator, learn
of an elephant shot and to drive by, an attempt
to kill President Obama with rice, then a dog shot
with a tranquilizer.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
And that's just for starters, right, that's just.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
The beginning of the madness.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Yeah, we you know, we had a recollection of this
you know, happening in twenty thirteen when an Elvis impersonator
was arrested for trying to assassinate President Barack Obama with
poisonous letters, and.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So it seemed like such an odd, bizarre story.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Mac and I flew out the two below in twenty
twenty one to meet with Paul Kevin Curtis, the main character,
find out what happened here, you know, what is this
story about, and quickly.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Kind of just uncovered so much more than we could
have ever bargained for.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You know, Kevin's story starts with finding a severed head
in a hospital working as a janitor. And that's kind
of the first step in this journey, so to speak,
just to give you a quick.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Taste, mclaan or Mac is some douke call you. That's
the first step or the first part this. But tell
me more about these former friends turned dangerous rivals.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
Do we know what started the few? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
So it sure to give a little context. Kevin's journey
is a complicated.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
One, but it certainly is what explains of kind of
where this story starts and where it begins. So to
pick pick up or chapelift up Kevin, He's Elvison personator
in Tuo Blowsissippi. He's working at a janitor in a hospital,
finds a severed head in a mort and what Kevin
becomes convinced of is that there is a black market
organ body parts trade happening in Tuplow, Mississippi. That leads
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him to want to create his own House bill resolution,
you need a state representative from Mississippi to.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Pass a House bill resolution.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
That gets him to Steve Holland, who himself as a
state representative. Steve Holland is also a funeral homeowner, which
is a central part of Kevin's black market body conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
That then takes him to Washington, d C.
Speaker 9 (04:46):
To the city US Senator Roger Wicker, who's from Mississippi.
Kevin performs as an Elvis and one of Roger Wicker's weddings,
and then that ultimately leads him to President of Brock
Obama to try to try and get this chaos pass.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Now, in the midst of that, he makes a lot
of enemies. One of these enemies that he makes is.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
A karate instructor Tupelo, a man named James Everett dutch Key.
Now Kevin ultimately gets ends up getting arrested for sending
these poisonous letters to Obama, to Wicker, to Holland. But
I'll leave it at this because a big portion is
did Kevin do it?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Did he not? That was a big part of his innocence,
which involves James ever.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Dutchby's story Chap And I've never been to Mississippi, and
given this story, I don't think I will ever go
to Mississippi. But this sounds like it could only happened
in Mississippi. What is it about this state which lends
itself to this type of weirdness and mayhem?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, we quickly.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Realized, you know, flying out there and then meeting a
lot of the people in tu Blow and surrounding areas,
that you know.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
They're very proud of their eccentricity.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It's something they wear. It's a badge of honor. They
wear it on their sleeve. They embrace it. Which was
incredible for us as filmmakers and storytellers. And quickly realized
that it was just like a murderer's row of talking
heads of storytellers. All these people can can weave an
incredible yarn to spinning yarn. They can heighten stories, they
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can embellish stories. Sometimes some untruths are even thrown into
these stories and really became a big part of making
this series is what is real, what is not, what's fact,
what's fiction?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
What really happened here?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And it's part of the fun of the roller coaster,
of going on the watching the Kings of Tupla.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Maybe that's the app description, Mac, because when when Chap
says roller coaster, we get on a ride, we expect
to enjoy it, we want the thrill. But nobody dies.
How is it nobody died in this story.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
It's a great question.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
I've been asked that one yet, and maybe some people
came close.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Because I don't want to spoil too much.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
But there's a judge who does take a sniff of
these rising letters, and she's older, but even she was
able to survive. But I think had this thing kept
on eating up, I.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Think someone might ended up in the ground. I don't know.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
I know that an elephant got shot, like Chad mentioned,
Kevin's dog got tranquilized.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But everyone made it out of this story alive.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
That we know, Chap.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I'm quite sure when you and Max started researching this story,
you probably thought one thing or thought the story might
have been told one way, but then it probably grew
the more you investigated, the more people that you talked to,
and became even more incredible than you originally thought.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Am I right?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
What we initially thought was just going to be a
story about a feud basically turned into this massive conspiracy
rabbit hole of severed heads and the black market organ
trade happening in the South and around the world, and
so it took us down a rabbit hole of trying
to figure out what's going on here, how this all works,
and there's just yeah, I mean, it was never a
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shortage of shocking events. I mean, Kevin's house burns down
to the ground during this conspiracy.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Rabbit holes, car is blown up.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I mean, it's just kind of nonstot madness and figuring
out who's responsible, who is behind this, what's going on
is part of the investigative process of the audience gets
to go on when they watch it.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Gentlemen, let's take a brief pause and then we can
pick up our conversation. There's so much I do want
to cover with you as we talk about The Kings
of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now available on Netflix.
My guess right now are Chapman and McLain way, the
co directors of the Kings of Tupelo. Will have more
in just a moment. It's Later with Mo Kelly KFI
(08:27):
AM six forty. We are live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I'm right in the middle of an incredible conversation
with co directors. Brothers fantastic filmmakers Chapman Way and McLain way.
They are co directors of the new three episode documentary
series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern crime saga now
available on Netflix. The story is seemingly unbelievable, but it
(09:01):
is all true. It has an Elvis impersonator slashing a
taekwondo instructor, an elephant which was shot in a drive
by shooting, not kidding, a tiny dog shot with a
tranquilizer as a means of revenge, and oh yeah, an
attempt to assassinate then President Obama with rising.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
FBI, Secret Service, US Capitol Police, Postal Service, National Guard
on insecurity Senate daily talks in to the US President.
There's a lot of folks going to start trying to
figure out who you are.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I really didn't know why this particular individual shows me,
but sending the letter to the president was a grave,
grave mistake on his part.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
The first step of the investigation we needed to do
some link analysis. The envelopes were all postmarked Memphis, Tennessee.
When they go through the postal service, their stand with
a bar code, and the bar code indicated that the
originating office was Tuplo, Mississippi. So Tuplo became ground zero
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for this operation.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
It is incredible, but it is now part of the
three part documentary series The Kings of Tupelo, a Southern
crime Saga and Mac take me into the creation process.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
You have all this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Raw video and stories that you didn't know prior to
starting on this journey. How do you and your brother,
your co directors sit down and try to make some
sense out of the seeming nonsense and tell a coherent
story across maybe three episodes.
Speaker 9 (10:49):
It's a great question because a part of the story
is a confusing conspiracy theory that as filmmakers you then
need to break down and process and make conspiracy, which
doesn't really make a lot of sense kind of makes
sense to an audience.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And so that was a bit of a two and
a half year journey.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Now what's helpful is we probably had sixty shoot days,
and we interviewed people for a really long time. Listen,
I think we interviewed Kevin for four or five NonStop days.
We interviewed his former wife Laura for two days. We
interviewed Steve Holland, who's one of our main character, for
three days, and you're just pulling all this information out
of it. I will say this, one of the things
that we got lucky on is there's a tremendous amount
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of archive footage in the series, and that's because we
got a lot of that archive footage from the FBI themselves.
Because the FBI rated both Paul Kevin Curtis's house and
James Everett Dutchby's house. They pick up all their hard drives,
they pick up all their tapes, they pick up all
their video cameras, and it's been kept in storage for the.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Last eleven years.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
So for us, that was a God said because all
of a sudden, all this footage shows up on our
doorstep and it's perfectly organized and that's because the FBI
were the people that controlled this media for quite a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Let me close with this one question. They seem simple,
but I know it's not. First to you, Chap, what
was your takeaway from doing this project, from learning this
story which is a little bit different from Wild Wold
Country or maybe not or different from Untold.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, I think the big takeaway for me was kind
of the insight into the birth of internet and internet
conspiracies and the rabbit holes and how do people find
themselves going.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Down these rabbit holes and what does it provide to them.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Maybe it's a sense of validation, a sense of importance,
a sense of meaning, and so I think it's like, obviously,
conspiracies have become such a huge part of our culture today.
So I think this story kind of is shows you
a window into a time much earlier in our country
when the kind of birth of all this stuff was happening.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Mac last word to.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
You, Yeah, for me, it was I'm excited to get
to introduce audiences to this really unique town of Tupelo, Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
It was certainly my experience there.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think that Tupelo is the only place where a
kid could have been born in a shotgun shack and
he rises to become the king of rock and roll.
And I think that that has an impact on the
talent CITI, since I think a lot of these people
have very big dreams, aspirations, ideals of right and wrong,
and for us we got to just kind of press
record and let them go.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And that's certainly what our documentary series is.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
He is mac Atan McLain way and alongside of his
brother Chapman Way, they are co directors of the new
three episode documentary series The Kings of Two Plow, a
Southern crime saga, now available on Netflix. Gentlemen, thank you
so much for doing this. I don't know how you
did it, but I'm glad you did it. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Thanks so much, Bill, I'm really fun conversation. Thanks for
having us on.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And the box office floor this last weekend. Some of
it was not so surprising. We heard the movie reviews
of both Mark Runner and to Wallace Sharp or the
movie Craven the Hunter. Mark Roger paraphrasing is a double
code brown and to Walla Sharp said it was probably
one of the worst movies ever, ever, ever. I expected
(14:13):
it would do about fifteen million domestically. It didn't even
get that much. It got eleven million domestically, fifteen million internationally,
twenty six million worldwide against one hundred and ten million
dollar budget. It probably won't be in theaters all that long.
It's only in thirty two hundred theaters right now. It'll
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probably lose a third of that this week. It doesn't
look good for Craving the Hunter. Nothing but horrible reviews,
and I think this will probably It hasn't been announced
that Aaron Taylor Johnson's going to be Bond the next Bond,
but if that contract is not signed, this does not
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help at all as far as the Bankableste.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
Yeah, you really don't want Craven as the top line
on your resume, do you.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Not the most recent starring vehicle that you've been in.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
It's such a bad movie that it's fun to hear
people talk about it. I spend a little time over
the weekend looking at YouTube reviews, and people are just, well,
let's say they're lifting a leg on it. It's fun
like in a fire hydrants something like that. Okay, well,
it came in number three this week. Believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Number one is still Moana two. It's in its third
week of release. It is still very healthy the box
office twenty six point five million domestically. It's worldwide total
is now almost three quarters of a billion dollars seven
hundred and seventeen million, eight hundred thousand, and it's still
pretty evenly balanced. Three thirty seven domestically, three eighty internationally,
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and it has an outside chance of hitting a billion dollars.
I don't know that it will, but it'll get pretty
darn close. Number two again is Wicked. Came in with
another healthy week of twenty two point six million, and
it is now cross It has now crossed the half
billion dollar mark.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
I saw that again again, yeah, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
And that's what it needs for any movie to get
close to a billion dollars or even three quarters of
a billion. You have to have people who are willing
to see it multiple times. I see it again. I'd
actually see it again. Did you see it by yourself
with your children again?
Speaker 10 (16:27):
I saw it with my daughter, Defferd of mine had
a birthday party at AMC.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
She ran out of the theater. We all went.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Coming in number four is Gladiator two. I think it's
much more appreciated internationally than domestically. I haven't seen the movie.
I haven't gotten around to it. I may see it
sometime this holiday season. But it's up to four hundred
billion dollars worldwide. It's making money. How much I don't know,
but it's making money. Number five is Lord of the Rings,
(16:56):
The War of the Robber Room or wherever it is.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It's I am wait, what's that word? Ropper room? Yeah?
The war him?
Speaker 10 (17:03):
Well, who the War of the War him, War of.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
The Not familiar with it, but it came in number
five this week. It banked another four point five million,
for a total of ten million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 10 (17:18):
I heard this is quite possibly one of the best
iterations of anything on the big screen that's ever been
done with Lords and Rings because it's animated, it moves fast,
and it's like pure action. Yeah, got a lot of
walking in because live action is walking and talking. I
know it's expensive, but it's walking and talking to one
of the anime one of those meetings of the elves
(17:40):
laying out exposition for fifteen minutes, Oh my gosh, while
staring out over an open plain field.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I mean, there are things that you can cut out
of these movies. None of those movies need to be
three hours, none of them. I dropped them after the
second one. Yeah, I didn't see.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
What was it? Small? That was the Hobbit, right, wasn't it?
If you say so?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I did see Return of the King in theaters,
and I think the last hour was nothing but walking
and talking. And I gave up to that because it
kept looking like he was going to end, No, it's
not Indy. Then it looked like he was gonna end, No,
it's not Indy, and it just kept being dragged out.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
I would never watch another Lord of the Rings movie
in theaters.
Speaker 10 (18:25):
Is there something you don't like about prolonged cgi orc
elf battles?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, no, there weren't enough battles actually to justify the three
hour movie.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
That was my issue. I just flatlined it the whole thing.
There was so much walking and so much talking.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yes, I know it's a long journey, but you don't
have to show me the actual long journey.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
No, we don't need to go on the actual journey.
Yeah we can. We just do a montage real quick
and we're there. No, the montages were long.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
Hello, those walking montages were those like thirty minutes by themselves.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, we can have a short cut from the short
cut anyhow. That came in. Number five. Number six is
read One, still hanging on four point two million.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And that's fine, Yes it is, And that's when I
was gonna watch it and where I was gonna watch it.
Number eight is Interstellar. It is still in the hanging
around the top ten. It's made since it's a ten
year re release, it's made twenty one million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 10 (19:23):
It probably will do better than Craven. Well, you gotta
admit that is one to see on a big screen.
All of Nolan's movies are Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I can be hard on Interstellar as far as it's
big reveal, but the movie. One thing I like about
Christopher Nolan is he's a very ambitious director. He is
going to try these big concept movies and sometimes he misses.
Tenant was a miss, but I like the concept. I
liked the attempt. I just didn't care for the execution.
(19:54):
Special effects were great. Yeah, inception, big idea movie. Didn't
like everything about it, but I was not mad about
it when.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
I saw it. I love Inception.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
No, I'm just saying he has big concepts and their
original ideas, and he's willing to throw all the money
in the world at them. So I have no problem
watching anything Nolan. Anything was the Bomb movie good? I
can't remember what you said.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About that one. I liked it, didn't love it. Okay,
wait the what the Bomb Oppenheimer? Oh yeah, oh you
know it wasn't enough Bomb. That's not even my favorite
movie of his.
Speaker 10 (20:30):
It's it's worth seeing, for sure, but it's it's I
don't think that's his biggest home run by any stretch,
even though it was the most critically lauded.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
Absolutely. I mean I liked it because I knew the history.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
I did a book report, exposa and a famous person
back in grade school on Robert Oppenheimer, so I was
already familiar with it in a nostalgic sort of way,
not to be morbid.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
But the movie didn't have enough about the bomb.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I didn't care as much about the person and his
friends and you know, his adulterous lifestyle.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
I didn't care anything about that.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
In the movie about the Adam Baum, the Adam Bomb
should have been the star and it wasn't. That Adam
Bomb should have been vying for an Academy Award, and
it wasn't.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
I thought that the movie had a lot of interesting sexuality.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It did a lot of people wanted to see. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was nudity and everything that I was non plus
by that because I wasn't there for that type of movie.
And I know they have to make a certain movie
to get as many people interested in it as possible.
But I would have been just fine with a bunch
of nerdy scenes in of scientists getting around the table
and trying to figure this out and all the problems
(21:43):
that they had along the way. They did do some
montages for that, but I wanted more of that storyline
and less about his mistress.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
I just didn't care.
Speaker 10 (21:52):
The bottom line on the Oppenheimer movie is that it
raised Killy and Murphy's profile high enough so that we're
finally going to get a Peaky Blinder's movie.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
You sure about that?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I am sure about that, Okay, all right, But I
don't want to have that movie to use that as
a as a jetway to another movie. I want the
movie to be able to stand on his own and
I was really looking forward to Oppenheimer.
Speaker 10 (22:15):
I liked it, did not love it same, although it's
boring when we agree. Yeah, let's find something to disagree. Yeah,
please Kittlins. You're wrong about chitlins. That's the hill I'm
gonna die on. You have to eat some about chitlins sucks. No,
my opinion is they they're horrible and they're nasty. But
(22:36):
my opinion is also you need to try some. Okay,
that's not gonna happen. Time for the news.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
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Speaker 1 (22:44):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Before we go, I did want to give you a short, quick,
down and dirty review of this new Netflix movie called
Carry On It.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
I think it dropped back on Friday.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
It has what was his name, Tarren Edgerton, Yeah, Jason Bateman,
Jason Bateman, and some other people that you will probably
recognize by face, middle level actors if you've seen Kingsman, Yeah, Kingsman, Yeah,
you'll recognize him. But there was another actor in it
(23:22):
which you know by face, if you've seen like Luke Cage.
He was Luke Cage theo Rossi. He was also in
one of the Disney Plus shows recently. But there are
a lot of recognizable faces in this and the premise
is pretty simple.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Tarreon Edgerton plays a TSA agent.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
He's grossly lazy, uninspired in his life, just caught in
a rut, unassuming guy, the last person you think he's
going to be a hero.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Well he's going to be a hero in this movie.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And he is working TSA line and then a series
of events which happens where he has to make a
decision to either endanger a flight or have his girlfriend killed.
You know, these impossible decisions he has to make. It's
part die Hard, part movie red Eye. It's reminiscent of
(24:17):
every movie that you've seen. There's nothing new in it
except as kind of updated for technology. The problem with
the movie like this is, and it's not bad, it's
just that for me, I know enough about how airports work,
in airport security to know that nothing in this movie
could happen, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
I'm gonna watch it because that's just kind of my
kind of movie. But you will yell at the screen side,
there's no way that could happen.
Speaker 10 (24:44):
Well, the title itself is so uninspiring. Carry on, is
there gonna be a sequel called three point five ounce Bottle?
It doesn't really thrill you to the marrow of your bones.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Well, I'm all about motivations as well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And when you find out the con seat or the MacGuffin,
you think like, well, the bad guys, this was their
best idea. They sunk all their money and all their
brain power into this particular plan to accomplish that particular end.
(25:19):
It doesn't make sense because once it all is revealed
what they're trying to do and why they're trying to
do it, your instantaneous thought will be well, I would
have just done X, y Z would have been a
whole lot easier, and.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
You would be right.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Because these are supposedly powerful people, can do all sorts
of powerful things. They're trying to use a really backwards
way to get what they need done, because they show
you that these are powerful people, puppet strings pulling things.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
They have all sorts of money and power, and this
is their.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Plan to that they chose to get what they needed
done to get done.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
They're just a lot of holes in it. All that said,
it's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I was washing my clothes and watching the movie. I
was eating breakfast and watching the movie. I was feeding
the dogs and watching the movie. It doesn't require your
full attention, but it's part of your Netflix subscription.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
It's fine. It's fine.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
When I say it's a low budget, I don't mean
that in a dismissive way. I'm saying it takes place
all in one or two locations, so they didn't have
to spend a lot of money. It is set air
quotes at lax, and that's another drawback for me.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
I know lax.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You know lax, And there are some establishing shots which
are lax, but then they show some other airport.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Which is clearly not lax.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
It might have been CGI for all I know, because
it just wasn't lax, because we always we know what
the arrival and departure terminals look like when you're pulling up.
It's just not lax. And if you can get past
all that, it's fine. It's two hours is about an
hour and forty minutes too long. It was basically a
(27:06):
thirty minute TV show.
Speaker 10 (27:07):
I would watch a movie about a friendship ending over
one person asking to be driven to lax.
Speaker 6 (27:14):
There has some of the there is some of that. Okay,
there is some of that.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Yeah, yeah, but Terarreed Edgerton his character, he's tsa agent.
His girlfriend, the female lead, she's like a, I don't know,
she does something at the airport, you know, ground control
for Major Tom.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She does something at the airport, which is important later on,
and you know they they're a couple.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
Some backstory. She just finds out she's pregnant.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So that's the predicate for everything which happens on that
particular day.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Well, listening to you describe, it sounds like something that
could have been generated by an. AI was waiting for
you to tell me what the inciting insul was.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Oh no, Mark, when you watch this, I'm not saying
it was created by AI. I'm just saying it's not
it's not believable. It's not all that inspired ing. But
it's fine in a TV movie of the week sort
of way. If you're old enough to remember those TV movies.
Oh are you kidding me? It fits perfectly in that mold.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Listen, I have a whole YouTube playlist filled with seventies
TV movies. Those things were entertaining.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, this is not even as good as the movie
like Airport seventy seven George Kennedy.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
It's nothing like that. It's nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's all self contained in one or two set locations,
a lot of walking, a lot of talking, a.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Lot of dialogue, a lot of dialogue.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
It seems like Arren Edgerton's kind of been on the
edge of being a huge star for a really long
time and hasn't quite gotten to the tipping point. Those
Kingsman movies are really entertaining.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
They are.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
This is not that okay, but I will say this.
I saw Teron Edgerton. He's like thirty something. He's like thirty.
He looks in the face like he could be ready
for a James Bond level role. Really, that's a bold statement. Yes,
this movie is not the vehicle for that, but there's
(29:14):
enough physicality in it where you can see like they're
trying to change because he had this baby face forever,
and like in the Kingsman movies, you can tell his
face he's not babyfaced anymore.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
He looks like he's growing in.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He's a grown ass man now, and I think the
roles will start shifting accordingly.
Speaker 10 (29:32):
What do you think about him as Wolverine. There's been
talk of that. I can see that, you can I
can see that.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I don't know if he could pull it off, but
I'm saying, with the right makeup and everything, yes he's
young enough, Yes I can see it.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Huh, all right, well, but then let me know see it.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I wouldn't expect too much from it, but it's it's
enjoyable enough. I would not you know, if I went
to see in the theater, I'd be cussing at the screen.
But if as part of my Netflix subscription, yeah, sure,
why not.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
I think half the movies on Netflix, huluin some of
these other services are designed to be just have on
while you're doing other stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Mission accomplished. Yeah, it's later with Mo Kelly. We're live
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Speaker 6 (30:13):
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Speaker 10 (30:18):
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