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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
At the risk of sounding like Mark Ronner, sounding not
that I am like him, I'm saying sounding like him.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There's some movies that I don't watch.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
There's some movies that I think are just kind of
beneath me, not in my age demographic, but not takes
our movies.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Those are always in my age demographic.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But the number one movie this past weekend was Sonic
the Hedgehog three. I can honestly say, and I don't
know if Mark would disagree with this. He might be
in alignment with me, which we don't like. I have
not seen a Sonic the Hedgehog movie, not one, not two,
not three. And why would you look like I said,
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we're in alignment. We agree, I just don't have any
reason to see it.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I know it's boring when we agree, but honestly, I
can't think of a single reason on earth unless you
were being held hostage at gunpoint. And and it was
one of those sitching situations like in a clockwork orange
where somebody's propping your eyes open right with wires.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, the movie did.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Sixty one million worldwide is mostly just domestic hasn't been
released internationally. For the most part, sixty million domestically one
point three million internationally came into number one at sixty
one point five million. What is more surprising is how
Move offter the Lion King underperformed or at least their
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expectations domestically. And here's how it gets real complicated. Domestically,
Move Off to the Lion King only did thirty five million,
which is well below expectations, but it did do ninety
million internationally, and it gives me the chance to highlight
the point Disney is not only creating content for American audiences.
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Disney is creating content for a world audience. And when
you look at seventy two percent of ticket sales for
when Move Off of the Lion King came from the
international market, that should reaffirm that point that Disney is
looking at the world market, not just the United States.
But anyhow, did thirty five million domestically ninety million internationally
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for one hundred and twenty five million worldwide, And if
you're wondering, well, how does that stack up against the budget, Well,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I thought I would have it up by now, but
it's not up yet. It is.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Let me stall for a little bit more so I
can bring it up my computer slow two hundred million,
So you got one hundred and twenty five million first week.
It most likely will make its money back, especially since
you're right in the middle of the holiday season. Kids
are home, they're not going to school. Parents will have
a little more time to actually take them to the
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movie theaters. And this is one of those movies where
if kids want to see it, parents got to take them.
So it's going to make its money. I just find
it surprising that it seems like it really underperformed domestically,
but it's doing very well internationally.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Usually that's flipped.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But going back to Sonic the Hedgehog, I just don't
have any desire to see any of those movies now.
The people who have kids, they tell me, oh, it's
really good, it's really funny. No desire, none at all.
Not the one with Jim Carrey.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think sometimes it's okay to admit that some things
just aren't for us anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The Super Mario movie, Nope, yeah, no, I don't have
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And maybe it's a function of movies surrounding games aren't
all that attractive to me anyhow, And the movies surrounding
the games are catering to a much young or audience.
I mean, there's really no chance of me any seeing
any type of nudity, thongs, f bombs or anything in
the Sonic the Hitchehog movie. And for Mark's benefit, no
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one is probably gonna get decapitated, no one's gonna get merked.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, you got those Resident Evil movies for that, right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I have to remind myself that is an actual
video game. But by and large, like the Doom movie
that sucked.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Uh, the first one sucked. The seven Ones second one
was kind of some watchable trash Doom.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I don't know that unless I want.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Unless I'm getting this wrong, I with the Rock No,
I'll have to look it up because I recall feeling
kind of embarrassed renting the second one.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, TWELLA just walked through.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We're talking about movies made at for video games, and
by and large they don't do well and I don't
really pay them the time of day.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They do not.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Outside of the tomb Raider films, the first ones with
Angelina Joe Lee forgot there was a game.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, that was a game.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
But outside of that, Resident and Evil is the only
one that has had any staining power as a video
game turned into a film franchise that has gone on
and on and on. They got like fifty eleven of
those films. But on Amazon Prime right now, there is
a sick and twisted series called Next Level or Level
Up or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't know if you've seen that. Mark.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I saw the listing last night and I decided I
wasn't gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's very dark, very vitals.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It's almost like Love Death and Robots, but the focus
of it is based on video games.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Isn't it directly connected to Love Death and Robots? I
believe no.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I think it's just the creators of this series they
pattern it off of that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But it's it's very, very scary to watch. It's like
they have this one secret level, secret level, yes, secret level.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
They have this one story about pac Man that I'm like, Jesus, say,
crisis that what pac Man was about all this time.
I will never play this game again. It is a nightmare.
I gotta hear this now because I love pac Man.
Oh my god, pac Man. In this world when they
tell you the origins of pac Man and what it's about.
It's all bad. It is the pac Man is a
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monster and the ghost that is fighting. It is what
happens to you as a player. When you become pac Man,
you become almost cannibalistic, and that's what pac Man is.
Pac Man is a cannibalistic mission to escape a maze,
and it's horrifying. It's I want to see. I watched
that night by mistake think, oh, okay, it's video games,
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and I said, what the hell am I watching language
Due to the violence, blood, gore, guts, not for the
faint of heart.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm watching it the second I step in the door.
When I get home now, I think I will as well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hey twelve, since you're here, Wicked is still sitting pretty
at number three. Of course, it's past five hundred and
seventy million. Yep, it should probably hit three quarters of
a billion when all is said and done. You've seen
it more than once. I'll probably get around to seeing
it before this holiday's over. But I don't did it
leave a bad taste in your mouth? It only took
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you to a certain point. You have to wait till
next year to see the rest of the story.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now, and I don't think it did because for me,
I went in knowing that it was set as the
play is set where the first part of the film
is supposed to be. Its supposed to be ends right
where the intermission ends for the play. So and the
way the film ended, it's so triumphantent and it just
it brings you to tear the scene just it's such
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a moment. And now I just can't wait to see
part two. And from everyone I know that seeing the play,
this is it. This is what you want to see
Wicked become on screen, and that's yeah, I will see
I will actually see this again on the big screen.
I want to see this again on the big train.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And even though you did not care for it, Tuala
Malanaitu is still doing very well. It brought in thirteen
million this week to secure the number four spot, but
it's had seven hundred and ninety three million worldwide. It's
doing better internationally than domestically. But seven hundred ninety three
million is going to release Eclipse. Maybe I would say
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eight hundred and fifty million before it leaves the Eaters.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Hey, look man, I'm proud of the rock. He needed
to win after red one, and I'm proud of that movie.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Lost money.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Look Mowana the first one, I love it. The second
one it's left such a nasty taste in our mouth.
I can't go back and watch the first ma Wana get.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I think the Rock's doing okay. By the way, the
Doom sequel is called Doom Annihilation. It's from twenty nineteen.
It is some trash, but I freely admit that I
watched it. Yeah, what was the Rock in that too?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
No, a total, no name cast. It's it's garbage, just
but I got I think I got it from a
red box.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No last Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Gladiator two came in at number six. It's doing well enough.
It's four hundred and six million worldwide. Domestically it's one
hundred and fifty four million. I don't know what the
expectations were for, but it's making some money. But we
all know we want to hear about Craven the Hunter.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The Hunter is now.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Pointing up forty two point seven million worldwide worldwide, seventeen
forty two.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Not one hundred and forty two, just forty two. That
film cost some two hundred one million to make. Man well,
speaking of two hundred and some million to make Red
One has now grossed one hundred and eighty one million worldwide.
It is not going to make us money back. But
I heard it was doing exceptional for for Amazon Prime like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is, and well, and we'll never see what that paid.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know what the what Amazon Prime paid for
it for the distribution streaming rights.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's that's what we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But yeah, it's probably still beneath what they were hoping
for it. And yeah, and I'm not going to be
saying seanick to Hedgehog. We have a mutual friends. While
with doctor Liz, who was swearing by this movie, said.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was the edge of the scene. Yeah, better than
the first two.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
You know what's interesting is, uh, my kids dared to
mention this to me. And look, I took them to
see the first one so long ago. The first one
came out, and I begrudgingly, no, hell no, I didn't
bother with the sect because the first one was this
is trash. And then the second one, I was like,
I'm not gonna go see that. They liked it, they
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want to see this third one. Why I don't get it.
I don't get the whole thing with this character. I
didn't like the video game. The video game get a
video game. So you're telling me there's more than one.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
When they named it snage that the Hedgehog three, the
implication is that there's probably a one and two preceding it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Ah, I didn't know that. It wasn't by luck.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It ended up with that number three at the end,
just like Godfather three that you don't know about either. Yeah,
wait til you discover Star Wars. There's a shiteload of them.
Your mind's gonna be blown. Man, when you look up
like Jason Vorhees, his I am dB credits are tremendous.
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He's going to outer space. Even fought Freddy Krueger a.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Couple of times.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That Space one wasn't bad. That was number ten, And
I will defend that there's something to.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
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Speaker 1 (11:18):
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Speaker 2 (11:24):
When do people start thinking about their New Year's Eve plans?
My wife, who is very organized to the point of
is it called like anality? Is that a word?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know if it's anality, but.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
She's very very specific. It's particular. Yes, yes, in every sense.
She planned our New Year's Eve back in August. August
auguest Twala, have you decided what you're doing for New
Year's yet?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No? No, no, no, no. It's going to depend on
what my children want to do. Now my son is eighteen,
I don't know if he's going to want to hang
out and pop uh apple cider champagne. My daughter, she's
like probably gonna say, like, can I go to my
friend's house?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Now at the dage where they don't want to hang
out with dad anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think I stopped hanging out with my family when
I went to college. Prior to that, it'd be kind
of like a family get together thing. We play cards,
we watch Dick Clark. But when I started coming back
from college and I'm eighteen or older, I was not
trying to hang in the house. I was trying to
get into something somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
That's what That's how I used to want to bring
in the new year. You bring in the new year
with New Year sex.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But oh, now, okay, you're gonna be explicit with it.
I was just trying to hint at it. But yeah, no,
I mean that's what it is saying. Anyone listen, you
know it's New Year sex, It's New Year, new sex.
That's what you do. That is that is the goal.
That is the goal.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But we get our hands up when you become a
parent that it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like, oh, hey, kids, what are we gonna do? And
it's like the you know, nine o'clock New Year.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
A right, y'all go to bed, and then you're sitting
there thinking about, you know, the the New Year and nunny.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When I was one of the best I want to
tell this story. You're gonna know which one I'm gonna tell.
One of the best New Years I ever had, t
Walla Sharp was I think you were an MD music
director for the station, Yes, ninety two point three to beat.
They had a party bus which took us from La
to San Diego at about eleven thirty pm to and
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we would ring in the New Year, stay up to
maybe one or two in the morning, and then they
would bring us back that night so we would get
it was a literal turnaround trip. We were in San
Diego for a couple of hours and I remember I
brought a lady friend with me on the bus. All
I can say is there was so much debauchery on
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this bus in the bus bathroom.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And I'm saying that as someone who was a veteran
of the music industry.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I can't even express no.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Look, I already know the stories that came back from
that bus, and I'm mad I did not go because
everyone said that y'all were trying to live your girls
gone wild fantasy on that bus. It was out of control.
All that was missing from that bus was a pole
right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And that was before they had those party buses with
the poles. Okay, so this was a charter bus and
the seats were not big enough for what people were
trying to do.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, and after a.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
While, people were drunk, getting sick, and they're basically having
sex in the middle aisle. They turned off the lights.
It was it was FS two thousand up in there,
and I think the bus driver was in on it
because it's like looking over his shoulders, like y'all right
back there.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Even if I say all that to say, I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
When I was in my late twenties, that was the
new Year's Eve was the time of my life. Now
not so much, you know. Now it's just like, hey,
I don't want no trouble.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Let's go somewhere we.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Can dance and sit down and gotta be pretty food,
good food, and I need to be asleep by one o'clock.
One o'clock I gotta sit down, Yeah, because it's from
twelve to Whatever we're gonna do has to be between
twelve ten am and twelve fifty am. Because one o'clock
I turned into a pumpkin. I'm done. I'm done.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I can't step till four in the morning anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Maybe Robin can Mark doesn't even go to sleep before
six in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, it just depends on the day. But you do
seem tremendously elderly that when you talk about this.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look I'm pouring out my heart here. I'm being very honest.
I cannot. I can't do anything all night anymore, including sleep,
not that either, not that either. Think of something, nope,
can't do that all night either.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
A man must know his limitations.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So New Year's Eve, I will take a nap at
about four o'clock PM, and I'll make sure that I
have a pre meal at around six o'clock because I
can't drink on an empty stomach.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Pre meal meaning early birds special, Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And then I will dance maybe two or three times
because you know, my arthrit is be acting up.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Ringing the New Year is the lumbago gout out.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Then whatever's going to happen between twelve ten and one
am is going to happen. And then I'm gonna drop
off into a deep coma like trance and sleep for
like three hours and then wake up in the middle
of the night. And what does your New Year's Eve
drink of choice? Oh, it's got to be brown liquor.
I will end up in a toilet with like gin
or vodka. Oh yeah, I can't drink gin either.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It will be.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Some form of Jack Daniels. It'll be Jack Daniels. It'll
be gentleman Jack. It'll be single barrel, but it'll be
brown liquor.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Now, gin is for English hardcore alcoholics with those red
golf ball noses. It's not for any civilized person.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay, all right, Tiffany Hobbs, what is your your weapon
of choice on New Year's Eve?
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I'd like to say that while I'm not an English
gentleman with a red nose, I do enjoy gin and
I seem to tolerate it pretty well, but wine of
any kind for sure. My birthday is actually January first,
so on New Year's Happy New Birthday. Yeah, I'm bringing
in my birthday and the New Year, so you know
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it's it's a fun time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Wait, duh, you haven't followed up on me on the gumball.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I have it, not yet, not yet. You know you're
you're expensive, expensive, but.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Your New Year's Eve plans.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You No, No, we haven't made any plans, and I'm
not a planner. I'm not like La MoU Hair.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I definitely don't see past.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I think a week ahead at this point, but I
do know that we hope to be able to do
something close to home. Don't really want to be out
in the crowds, out in the fray, not really our thing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'm at the point where I don't really even see
anyone under the age of thirty. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm
big serious talk about being the ladist mark New Year's Eve.
I don't want to see anyone under the age of thirty.
Why because people under the age of thirty, don't know
how to handle the liquor.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Did they let children into the home on New Year's Eve?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Talk about my house?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The home you're trying to say, like the facility. Yeah, no, no,
they don't, all right, they don't know. They don't let
the old folks out either. I'm not there yet, not quite.
Those teeth in the glass by the bed at twelve
oh one, No, just my invisi line. But that's about it.
The pit diaper.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It seems how you're older than me is that's the
weird thing about all. You're the oldest person in this
building right now.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
There are only eight people in this building, and you're
older than me. So that's not true. It's a godless line.
I won't tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Why just blast even less of right? Is Christmas Eve? Eve? Man? Well,
let's just lower the tone a little bit here. Try
to be a little friendly to your pals here. We're
not friends.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh okay, Robin, we are getting ready to go to break.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I need you to get ready for when I tossed
to Mark. Are we ready? No? You need a little
more time, Yeah, how much time you need? Okay, I'm ready?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Ok if I am six forty We're live everywhere the
iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we're going to talk
about James Bond and what is not happening with that franchise,
and Mark Runner is going to lead us through the
munck and mere of that storied intellectual property. We may
never see another James Bond, almost said James Brown, James
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Bond movie.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I'll take James Brown because of what's going on behind
the scenes. That's next.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (20:18):
KFI Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app on this Christmas
Eve Eve. And this arguably no bigger Bond fan among
us than Mark Ronner, and we all are Bond fans,
but he is a Bond fan above all Bond fans.
I was casually curious as to why we had not
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seen the next official announcement, at least of who's going
to be the next James Bond. It's thought to be
Aaron Taylor Johnson, but that has not been confirmed. And
in wake of the wake of a Craven the Hunter,
that may not ever happen. And that's just me being cynical,
but still, you know, you can have a bad movie
and then people start questioning whether you actually are a star.
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But beyond that, there seems to be friction between the
people who own the rights to all things Bond and
Amazon Prime And what is your read of it? Mark
from what you know the way.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I understand it, And I'm not working for many notes here,
but I did read and watch a number of things
about it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Barbara Broccoli inherited the control of the Bond franchise from
her father, Cubby Broccoli, and she apparently uncorked on Amazon.
Amazon bought the rights to MGM, which controls the Bond movies. Well,
it owns the Bond movies, but the Broccoli family has
control of the Bond franchise right, and so Amazon apparently
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had plans to do spinoffs and TV shows and all
sorts of other things to dilute the Bond brand, and
Barbara Broccoli just through caution and diplomacy to the wind
and call them a bunch and idiots over the weekend,
and it looks like they're at kind of an impasse
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and we're not going to get any Bond for a while.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Don't they know?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Just historically how protective the Broccoli family has been of
the Bond name and franchise, don't they know?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, it's Bond is the most English of all English things.
And the American way is to bleed everything dry and
to just exploit it until there's nothing left, not a
dime left, not a drop of blood left. But these
are the most bespoke movies in the world in the
history of cinema. You know, you make one every few years.
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By the way, people don't seem to know. Goldfinger and
Thunderbolt came out just a year apart, in sixty four
and sixty five, but now they take years between them,
and so you know, poor Daniel Craig, he made what
five of them and over a period of what twenty years?
Sean Connery wasn't James Bond for that long? If I'm
reading this correctly. Amazon was trying to do what Sony
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did with the Spider Man intellectual property. So we would
have all these series, possibly even split off movies that
did not contain James Bond, but there would be like
a Moneypenny movie or a CE movie or something serious
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
There's been talk of that for years, and I think
The specific reference that the Amazon people made was that
they wanted to start treating the James Bond franchise like
Marvel movies, and that would raise the hackles on anybody's
neck if you understand James Bond.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But not only that. It's not like you can just
duplicate what Marvel did. There was a plan.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Although it was a plan which grew and changed over time,
there was an actual plan from beginning to end. It
doesn't sound like that there is a plan here other
than just creating more stuff for people to see.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, just exploiting every nook and cranny of the Bond
universe and making its own separate thing out of it.
And I don't know if many Bond fans who actually
want to see that, But you know, Amazon, some of these.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Things work out. Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
There are things you and I have seen where we thought,
oh god, we don't need that. In fact, what was
the thing that I talked about Friday? Oh it was
a young dexter that turned out good. But Barbara Broccoli,
they really guard James Bond jealously. They don't let anybody
screw with this. They make the decisions and they know
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that would cheapen the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, but if Young Dexter fails, it's not like people
are going to say, oh, you ruin the brand. Bond
is an iconic brand, and the stakes are higher, and
I think the tolerance is much lower for foolishness beyond
the Broccoli family. I'm just saying, fans of James Bond
have a certain level of expectation. That's why there's so
much emphasis placed on who's going to be the next Bond,
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because it has to measure up to previous Bonds or
hopefully exceed.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, Bond fans love to argue about every choice that's made,
every casting decision, and that's fine. I mean, I didn't
like the last several of them, but I love James Bond.
And you know, if you're a Bond fan, it's like,
you know, only you can say certain things about your
brother or sister. If anybody else does, you're gonna kick
their ass. M I particularly liked Daniel Craig as Bond.
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He's my second favorite Bond behind Sean Connery. I grew
up with Roger Moore. I like Roger Moore, but he
never felt in the true spirit of the original Bond
movies that my father exposed me to I get that,
and people's opinions on that differ. I think Ian Fleming
may have wanted More before he wanted Sean Connery, and
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in fact he didn't want Connery until he got to
know him, because More he had pictured somebody more like
a carry grander of David Niven as James Bond. Initially
he grew to like Connery and then later added details
in a book to account for Connery's Irish ancestry or sorry,
Scottish ancestry. But I mean everybody loves Roger Moore. My
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problem with Daniel Craig was that Casino Royale. His first
one was promising, and each one was worse and worse
after that, and Craig himself just became a poudy, moody
James Bond that didn't have any of that death thrill
that you saw with Sean Connery. Like you look at
you look at Sean Connery in the very first one,
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Doctor No, when he's in a ride that would terrify
car chase, that would terrify any of us, and you see.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He starts to smile in the middle of this thing.
See somebody dies horribly.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This comes down to just preference, I think, because what
I liked most about Daniel Craig's portrayal of James Bond
was he was a man with certain frailties and you'd
have to see the result of his proclivities, his drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That became a storyline.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Quantama Solace was a bad movie period, but I liked
where they were trying to go, the fact that he
he did mess around and fall in love, and that's
why I believe he was a womanizer every movie and
scene after that.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, he fell in love on Our Majesty's Secret Service
too with Diana rig no Less. I mean, if you're
if you're going to finally give up the bachelor of life,
that's who you do it for. But I just they
tried to change the Daniel Craig Bond to suit the times.
I mean, you couldn't get away with a lot of
stuff that you did in the sixties or well, Bond
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was invented in the fifties. Okay, that was when those
stories were written, but Ryle might have been fifty three
when it was probable.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But that, of course, you have to update the character
because you know, in this post me too world, James
Bond just betting a woman every single night while he's
out there quote unquote saving the British Empire. Is not
as attractive today as it was forty years ago. It
seems a little sociopathic now. But I think some of
the changes they made to Bond just made ordinary and
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there were things that were purposely, purposely left out of
the movies and the books, such as Bond's background. Like
a lot of people love Skyfall, which is beautifully filmed.
It's a great looking movie. But the part about you know,
him thinking of female m Judy dench A as a
mother figure, terrible, terrible. The people responsible for that understood nothing,
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and I despise that. Yeah, But then by that argumentation,
I think you would be more angry about a Roger
Moore because Roger Moore never broke a sweat. There was
no depth to his portrayal of James Bond.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I you know, I just like Roger Moore, and I
don't take those movies as seriously as the first six.
What do you mean you didn't like Moonraker? Moonraker got
a little too silly. I love Live and Let Die.
It was a blacksplaitation movie. Basically, I love the Spy
love Man and I right before The Spy Who Loved
Me was The Man with the Golden Gun, which had
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Christopher Lee in it. To superheroes of cult cinema, more
and Lee a fun movie, I thought things started to
get to Like the tag tagline for The Spy Who
Loved Me was It's bigger, It's better, It's Bond and beyond,
and that turned out to be too much for me.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
There's some fun stuff in the movie, though.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Before we go to break, where do you think this
goes with the James Bond ip? Do you think Amazon
bends to the will of the Broccoli family or is
this something in between.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't think the Broccoli people mind sitting on their
hands until things go their way. Look at how long
they waited between before they got Pierce Brosnan and between
Brosnan and Craig and Dalton. They want things done their way,
and even if you don't like the way they do
certain things, they're going to have things their way.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I admire that about them.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I can't tell you, like, if I were in charge,
I'd take it all the way back to the fifties
or the sixties mad Man where Bond that character made
more sense because it's like the ship of Theseus. You
change too many things about it, you might as well
call it something else.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
This is later with Moke Kelly. This is not Greek
history and tragedy. I don't need you quoting Homer in
the Iliad. No, no, no, Dylan Sharp it is come on, man,
it's too smart for the audience.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The analogy is how much do you change a thing
before it's a completely different thing, one thing at a time,
and then suddenly you look at it and it's like, oh,
that's not James Bond anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know if today's audiences care. I know the
family cares, but I don't know if audiences care to
that degree.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Well, what they've seen is copies of copies of copies,
and so I would love to strip it down and
get it right back down to basics.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But this is an audience, which is our people now,
who will just as much love a John Wick or
ad Jason Bourne or a Transporter any one of those
characters and not feel that they lose anything.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
So you take Ja Bourne and the Tom Cruise Mission impossibles,
and you've got to discern for yourself what made Bond
different from all of those and more exciting and harder
and meaner. And that's there to be found, but you
got to dig for it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But I would be open to a crossover movie where
James Bond made an appearance and a John Wick movie
at the Continental Hotel and Jason Bourne was there, and
just all the killers just happened, just one scene ethan hunt,
just all of them, just one scene.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Just like a Justice League of Killer Spies. Yep, just
one scene. Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And they don't have to refer to him as James Bond,
to just call him James or something, so everyone would know,
oh they're talking about Double seven.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
You're opening up a whole nother thing that we don't
have time to get into, which was fine. How does
everyone know who he is? If he's a secret agent?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Everybody knows, oh, mister Bond, everybody expecting you.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, a secret agent, and yet everybody knows what he
drinks everywhere and they know his name first and last name.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, okay, we got to stop. We gotta stop. I
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Speaker 1 (32:03):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Because we come down to the end of this evening
as we get closer to Christmas Eve. I have some
friends maybe you do too, and some family who do
the gift exchange on Christmas Eve. That's something my family's
only done maybe once or twice, but it's always intrigued
me when you do it on Christmas Eve. Some do
it Christmas morning. My family, we do it like Christmas evening.
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It's like, gosh, Lee, you're making the kids wait all
darn day and we'll have the Christmas gift exchanged right
before dinner.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Right before dinner.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'm gonna be going over to my sister's house and
it'll be fifty eleven people over there, and hopefully I'll
get the chance to watch some.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Of the NBA games. That's all I want. I want
to eat watch the basketball games.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's all I'm asking for, and I know I'm speaking
for just about most men out there. That's all we want.
Here's a suggestion to a woman listening or could be
a man. Let your man watch the basketball games. Make
sure he gets a good plate he gets to watch
the basketball games. Maybe you have a cup where he
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can sip on something during the game, and you'll have
a fantastic Christmas. Because we as men, we are so
very simple. Sometimes we're so simple you'll want to make
it difficult. Just give us the simple stuff and then
everything will just fall into place. And no, I'm not
talking to you, Tiffany Hobbs, even though I'm looking at
you making sure you're hearing me.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I hear you loud and clear, and I am seeing TJ,
my fiance next to me, nodding his head. And I
plan to heed your advice, mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And if you haven't listened to it later with mo
Kelly or previously the bo Kelly Show, we do a
nice rendition of twice the night before Christmas every single year,
so be sure to check that out tomorrow as we
sign off tomorrow, and have a wonderful, wonderful Christmas holiday,
and we'll talk to you on the other side of Christmas.
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Speaker 3 (34:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
At the risk of sounding like Mark Ronner, sounding not
that I am like him, I'm saying sounding like him.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
There's some movies that I don't watch.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
There's some movies that I think are just kind of
beneath me, not in my age demographic, but not takes
our movies.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Those are always in my age demographic.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But the number one movie this past weekend was Sonic
the Hedgehog three. I can honestly say, and I don't
know if Mark would disagree with this. He might be
in alignment with me, which we don't like. I have
not seen a Sonic the Hedgehog movie, not one, not two,
not three. And why would you look like I said,
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we're in alignment. We agree, I just don't have any
reason to see it.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I know it's boring when we agree, but honestly, I
can't think of a single reason on earth unless you
were being held hostage at gunpoint. And and it was
one of those sitching situations like in a clockwork orange
where somebody's propping your eyes open right with wires.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, the movie did.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Sixty one million worldwide is mostly just domestic hasn't been
released internationally. For the most part, sixty million domestically one
point three million internationally came into number one at sixty
one point five million. What is more surprising is how
Move offter the Lion King underperformed or at least their
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expectations domestically. And here's how it gets real complicated. Domestically,
Move Off to the Lion King only did thirty five million,
which is well below expectations, but it did do ninety
million internationally, and it gives me the chance to highlight
the point Disney is not only creating content for American audiences.
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Disney is creating content for a world audience. And when
you look at seventy two percent of ticket sales for
when Move Off of the Lion King came from the
international market, that should reaffirm that point that Disney is
looking at the world market, not just the United States.
But anyhow, did thirty five million domestically ninety million internationally
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for one hundred and twenty five million worldwide, And if
you're wondering, well, how does that stack up against the budget, Well,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I thought I would have it up by now, but
it's not up yet. It is.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Let me stall for a little bit more so I
can bring it up my computer slow two hundred million,
So you got one hundred and twenty five million first week.
It most likely will make its money back, especially since
you're right in the middle of the holiday season. Kids
are home, they're not going to school. Parents will have
a little more time to actually take them to the
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movie theaters. And this is one of those movies where
if kids want to see it, parents got to take them.
So it's going to make its money. I just find
it surprising that it seems like it really underperformed domestically,
but it's doing very well internationally.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Usually that's flipped.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But going back to Sonic the Hedgehog, I just don't
have any desire to see any of those movies now.
The people who have kids, they tell me, oh, it's
really good, it's really funny. No desire, none at all.
Not the one with Jim Carrey.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think sometimes it's okay to admit that some things
just aren't for us anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
The Super Mario movie, Nope, yeah, no, I don't have
you know.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And maybe it's a function of movies surrounding games aren't
all that attractive to me anyhow, And the movies surrounding
the games are catering to a much young or audience.
I mean, there's really no chance of me any seeing
any type of nudity, thongs, f bombs or anything in
the Sonic the Hitchehog movie. And for Mark's benefit, no
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one is probably gonna get decapitated, no one's gonna get merked.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, you got those Resident Evil movies for that, right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
And I have to remind myself that is an actual
video game. But by and large, like the Doom movie
that sucked.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Uh, the first one sucked. The seven Ones second one
was kind of some watchable trash Doom.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, I don't know that unless I want.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Unless I'm getting this wrong, I with the Rock No,
I'll have to look it up because I recall feeling
kind of embarrassed renting the second one.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, TWELLA just walked through.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
We're talking about movies made at for video games, and
by and large they don't do well and I don't
really pay them the time of day.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
They do not.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Outside of the tomb Raider films, the first ones with
Angelina Joe Lee forgot there was a game.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, that was a game.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
But outside of that, Resident and Evil is the only
one that has had any staining power as a video
game turned into a film franchise that has gone on
and on and on. They got like fifty eleven of
those films. But on Amazon Prime right now, there is
a sick and twisted series called Next Level or Level
Up or something.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I don't know if you've seen that. Mark.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I saw the listing last night and I decided I
wasn't gonna watch it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's very dark, very vitals.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
It's almost like Love Death and Robots, but the focus
of it is based on video games.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Isn't it directly connected to Love Death and Robots? I
believe no.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I think it's just the creators of this series they
pattern it off of that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But it's it's very, very scary to watch. It's like
they have this one secret level, secret level, yes, secret level.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
They have this one story about pac Man that I'm like, Jesus, say,
crisis that what pac Man was about all this time.
I will never play this game again. It is a nightmare.
I gotta hear this now because I love pac Man.
Oh my god, pac Man. In this world when they
tell you the origins of pac Man and what it's about.
It's all bad. It is the pac Man is a
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monster and the ghost that is fighting. It is what
happens to you as a player. When you become pac Man,
you become almost cannibalistic, and that's what pac Man is.
Pac Man is a cannibalistic mission to escape a maze,
and it's horrifying. It's I want to see. I watched
that night by mistake think, oh, okay, it's video games,
(06:26):
and I said, what the hell am I watching language
Due to the violence, blood, gore, guts, not for the
faint of heart.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm watching it the second I step in the door.
When I get home now, I think I will as well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Hey twelve, since you're here, Wicked is still sitting pretty
at number three. Of course, it's past five hundred and
seventy million. Yep, it should probably hit three quarters of
a billion when all is said and done. You've seen
it more than once. I'll probably get around to seeing
it before this holiday's over. But I don't did it
leave a bad taste in your mouth? It only took
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you to a certain point. You have to wait till
next year to see the rest of the story.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Now, and I don't think it did because for me,
I went in knowing that it was set as the
play is set where the first part of the film
is supposed to be. Its supposed to be ends right
where the intermission ends for the play. So and the
way the film ended, it's so triumphantent and it just
it brings you to tear the scene just it's such
(07:25):
a moment. And now I just can't wait to see
part two. And from everyone I know that seeing the play,
this is it. This is what you want to see
Wicked become on screen, and that's yeah, I will see
I will actually see this again on the big screen.
I want to see this again on the big train.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And even though you did not care for it, Tuala
Malanaitu is still doing very well. It brought in thirteen
million this week to secure the number four spot, but
it's had seven hundred and ninety three million worldwide. It's
doing better internationally than domestically. But seven hundred ninety three
million is going to release Eclipse. Maybe I would say
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eight hundred and fifty million before it leaves the Eaters.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Hey, look man, I'm proud of the rock. He needed
to win after red one, and I'm proud of that movie.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Lost money.
Speaker 5 (08:14):
Look Mowana the first one, I love it. The second
one it's left such a nasty taste in our mouth.
I can't go back and watch the first ma Wana get.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I think the Rock's doing okay. By the way, the
Doom sequel is called Doom Annihilation. It's from twenty nineteen.
It is some trash, but I freely admit that I
watched it. Yeah, what was the Rock in that too?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
No, a total, no name cast. It's it's garbage, just
but I got I think I got it from a
red box.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No last Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Gladiator two came in at number six. It's doing well enough.
It's four hundred and six million worldwide. Domestically it's one
hundred and fifty four million. I don't know what the
expectations were for, but it's making some money. But we
all know we want to hear about Craven the Hunter.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
The Hunter is now.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Pointing up forty two point seven million worldwide worldwide, seventeen
forty two.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Not one hundred and forty two, just forty two. That
film cost some two hundred one million to make. Man well,
speaking of two hundred and some million to make Red
One has now grossed one hundred and eighty one million worldwide.
It is not going to make us money back. But
I heard it was doing exceptional for for Amazon Prime like.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It is, and well, and we'll never see what that paid.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I don't know what the what Amazon Prime paid for
it for the distribution streaming rights.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's that's what we don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But yeah, it's probably still beneath what they were hoping
for it. And yeah, and I'm not going to be
saying seanick to Hedgehog. We have a mutual friends. While
with doctor Liz, who was swearing by this movie, said.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was the edge of the scene. Yeah, better than
the first two.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
You know what's interesting is, uh, my kids dared to
mention this to me. And look, I took them to
see the first one so long ago. The first one
came out, and I begrudgingly, no, hell no, I didn't
bother with the sect because the first one was this
is trash. And then the second one, I was like,
I'm not gonna go see that. They liked it, they
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want to see this third one. Why I don't get it.
I don't get the whole thing with this character. I
didn't like the video game. The video game get a
video game. So you're telling me there's more than one.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yes, that's what happens.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
When they named it snage that the Hedgehog three, the
implication is that there's probably a one and two preceding it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Ah, I didn't know that. It wasn't by luck.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
It ended up with that number three at the end,
just like Godfather three that you don't know about either. Yeah,
wait til you discover Star Wars. There's a shiteload of them.
Your mind's gonna be blown. Man, when you look up
like Jason Vorhees, his I am dB credits are tremendous.
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He's going to outer space. Even fought Freddy Krueger a.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Couple of times.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
That Space one wasn't bad. That was number ten, And
I will defend that there's something to.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
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Speaker 2 (11:24):
When do people start thinking about their New Year's Eve plans?
My wife, who is very organized to the point of
is it called like anality? Is that a word?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I don't know if it's anality, but.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
She's very very specific. It's particular. Yes, yes, in every sense.
She planned our New Year's Eve back in August. August
auguest Twala, have you decided what you're doing for New
Year's yet?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
No? No, no, no, no. It's going to depend on
what my children want to do. Now my son is eighteen,
I don't know if he's going to want to hang
out and pop uh apple cider champagne. My daughter, she's
like probably gonna say, like, can I go to my
friend's house?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Now at the dage where they don't want to hang
out with dad anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think I stopped hanging out with my family when
I went to college. Prior to that, it'd be kind
of like a family get together thing. We play cards,
we watch Dick Clark. But when I started coming back
from college and I'm eighteen or older, I was not
trying to hang in the house. I was trying to
get into something somewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
That's what That's how I used to want to bring
in the new year. You bring in the new year
with New Year sex.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
But oh, now, okay, you're gonna be explicit with it.
I was just trying to hint at it. But yeah, no,
I mean that's what it is saying. Anyone listen, you
know it's New Year sex, It's New Year, new sex.
That's what you do. That is that is the goal.
That is the goal.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
But we get our hands up when you become a
parent that it's kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Like, oh, hey, kids, what are we gonna do? And
it's like the you know, nine o'clock New Year.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
A right, y'all go to bed, and then you're sitting
there thinking about, you know, the the New Year and nunny.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
When I was one of the best I want to
tell this story. You're gonna know which one I'm gonna tell.
One of the best New Years I ever had, t
Walla Sharp was I think you were an MD music
director for the station, Yes, ninety two point three to beat.
They had a party bus which took us from La
to San Diego at about eleven thirty pm to and
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we would ring in the New Year, stay up to
maybe one or two in the morning, and then they
would bring us back that night so we would get
it was a literal turnaround trip. We were in San
Diego for a couple of hours and I remember I
brought a lady friend with me on the bus. All
I can say is there was so much debauchery on
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this bus in the bus bathroom.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And I'm saying that as someone who was a veteran
of the music industry.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I can't even express no.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Look, I already know the stories that came back from
that bus, and I'm mad I did not go because
everyone said that y'all were trying to live your girls
gone wild fantasy on that bus. It was out of control.
All that was missing from that bus was a pole
right in the middle.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And that was before they had those party buses with
the poles. Okay, so this was a charter bus and
the seats were not big enough for what people were
trying to do.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, and after a.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
While, people were drunk, getting sick, and they're basically having
sex in the middle aisle. They turned off the lights.
It was it was FS two thousand up in there,
and I think the bus driver was in on it
because it's like looking over his shoulders, like y'all right
back there.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Even if I say all that to say, I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
When I was in my late twenties, that was the
new Year's Eve was the time of my life. Now
not so much, you know. Now it's just like, hey,
I don't want no trouble.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Let's go somewhere we.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Can dance and sit down and gotta be pretty food,
good food, and I need to be asleep by one o'clock.
One o'clock I gotta sit down, Yeah, because it's from
twelve to Whatever we're gonna do has to be between
twelve ten am and twelve fifty am. Because one o'clock
I turned into a pumpkin. I'm done. I'm done.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I can't step till four in the morning anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Maybe Robin can Mark doesn't even go to sleep before
six in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Well, it just depends on the day. But you do
seem tremendously elderly that when you talk about this.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Look I'm pouring out my heart here. I'm being very honest.
I cannot. I can't do anything all night anymore, including sleep,
not that either, not that either. Think of something, nope,
can't do that all night either.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
A man must know his limitations.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So New Year's Eve, I will take a nap at
about four o'clock PM, and I'll make sure that I
have a pre meal at around six o'clock because I
can't drink on an empty stomach.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Pre meal meaning early birds special, Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
And then I will dance maybe two or three times
because you know, my arthrit is be acting up.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Ringing the New Year is the lumbago gout out.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Then whatever's going to happen between twelve ten and one
am is going to happen. And then I'm gonna drop
off into a deep coma like trance and sleep for
like three hours and then wake up in the middle
of the night. And what does your New Year's Eve
drink of choice? Oh, it's got to be brown liquor.
I will end up in a toilet with like gin
or vodka. Oh yeah, I can't drink gin either.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It will be.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Some form of Jack Daniels. It'll be Jack Daniels. It'll
be gentleman Jack. It'll be single barrel, but it'll be
brown liquor.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Now, gin is for English hardcore alcoholics with those red
golf ball noses. It's not for any civilized person.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Okay, all right, Tiffany Hobbs, what is your your weapon
of choice on New Year's Eve?
Speaker 6 (17:27):
I'd like to say that while I'm not an English
gentleman with a red nose, I do enjoy gin and
I seem to tolerate it pretty well, but wine of
any kind for sure. My birthday is actually January first,
so on New Year's Happy New Birthday. Yeah, I'm bringing
in my birthday and the New Year, so you know
(17:49):
it's it's a fun time.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Wait, duh, you haven't followed up on me on the gumball.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
I have it, not yet, not yet. You know you're
you're expensive, expensive, but.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Your New Year's Eve plans.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
You No, No, we haven't made any plans, and I'm
not a planner. I'm not like La MoU Hair.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I definitely don't see past.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
I think a week ahead at this point, but I
do know that we hope to be able to do
something close to home. Don't really want to be out
in the crowds, out in the fray, not really our thing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I'm at the point where I don't really even see
anyone under the age of thirty. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm
big serious talk about being the ladist mark New Year's Eve.
I don't want to see anyone under the age of thirty.
Why because people under the age of thirty, don't know
how to handle the liquor.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Did they let children into the home on New Year's Eve?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Talk about my house?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The home you're trying to say, like the facility. Yeah, no, no,
they don't, all right, they don't know. They don't let
the old folks out either. I'm not there yet, not quite.
Those teeth in the glass by the bed at twelve
oh one, No, just my invisi line. But that's about it.
The pit diaper.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
It seems how you're older than me is that's the
weird thing about all. You're the oldest person in this
building right now.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
There are only eight people in this building, and you're
older than me. So that's not true. It's a godless line.
I won't tolerate it.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Why just blast even less of right? Is Christmas Eve? Eve? Man? Well,
let's just lower the tone a little bit here. Try
to be a little friendly to your pals here. We're
not friends.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Oh okay, Robin, we are getting ready to go to break.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I need you to get ready for when I tossed
to Mark. Are we ready? No? You need a little
more time, Yeah, how much time you need? Okay, I'm ready?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Ok if I am six forty We're live everywhere the
iHeartRadio app. When we come back, we're going to talk
about James Bond and what is not happening with that franchise,
and Mark Runner is going to lead us through the
munck and mere of that storied intellectual property. We may
never see another James Bond, almost said James Brown, James
(20:06):
Bond movie.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I'll take James Brown because of what's going on behind
the scenes. That's next.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
KFI Mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app on this Christmas
Eve Eve. And this arguably no bigger Bond fan among
us than Mark Ronner, and we all are Bond fans,
but he is a Bond fan above all Bond fans.
I was casually curious as to why we had not
(20:39):
seen the next official announcement, at least of who's going
to be the next James Bond. It's thought to be
Aaron Taylor Johnson, but that has not been confirmed. And
in wake of the wake of a Craven the Hunter,
that may not ever happen. And that's just me being cynical,
but still, you know, you can have a bad movie
and then people start questioning whether you actually are a star.
(21:02):
But beyond that, there seems to be friction between the
people who own the rights to all things Bond and
Amazon Prime And what is your read of it? Mark
from what you know the way.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
I understand it, And I'm not working for many notes here,
but I did read and watch a number of things
about it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Barbara Broccoli inherited the control of the Bond franchise from
her father, Cubby Broccoli, and she apparently uncorked on Amazon.
Amazon bought the rights to MGM, which controls the Bond movies. Well,
it owns the Bond movies, but the Broccoli family has
control of the Bond franchise right, and so Amazon apparently
(21:45):
had plans to do spinoffs and TV shows and all
sorts of other things to dilute the Bond brand, and
Barbara Broccoli just through caution and diplomacy to the wind
and call them a bunch and idiots over the weekend,
and it looks like they're at kind of an impasse
(22:06):
and we're not going to get any Bond for a while.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Don't they know?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Just historically how protective the Broccoli family has been of
the Bond name and franchise, don't they know?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Well, it's Bond is the most English of all English things.
And the American way is to bleed everything dry and
to just exploit it until there's nothing left, not a
dime left, not a drop of blood left. But these
are the most bespoke movies in the world in the
history of cinema. You know, you make one every few years.
(22:41):
By the way, people don't seem to know. Goldfinger and
Thunderbolt came out just a year apart, in sixty four
and sixty five, but now they take years between them,
and so you know, poor Daniel Craig, he made what
five of them and over a period of what twenty years?
Sean Connery wasn't James Bond for that long? If I'm
reading this correctly. Amazon was trying to do what Sony
(23:06):
did with the Spider Man intellectual property. So we would
have all these series, possibly even split off movies that
did not contain James Bond, but there would be like
a Moneypenny movie or a CE movie or something serious
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (23:23):
There's been talk of that for years, and I think
The specific reference that the Amazon people made was that
they wanted to start treating the James Bond franchise like
Marvel movies, and that would raise the hackles on anybody's
neck if you understand James Bond.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
But not only that. It's not like you can just
duplicate what Marvel did. There was a plan.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Although it was a plan which grew and changed over time,
there was an actual plan from beginning to end. It
doesn't sound like that there is a plan here other
than just creating more stuff for people to see.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, just exploiting every nook and cranny of the Bond
universe and making its own separate thing out of it.
And I don't know if many Bond fans who actually
want to see that, But you know, Amazon, some of these.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Things work out. Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
There are things you and I have seen where we thought,
oh god, we don't need that. In fact, what was
the thing that I talked about Friday? Oh it was
a young dexter that turned out good. But Barbara Broccoli,
they really guard James Bond jealously. They don't let anybody
screw with this. They make the decisions and they know
(24:33):
that would cheapen the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, but if Young Dexter fails, it's not like people
are going to say, oh, you ruin the brand. Bond
is an iconic brand, and the stakes are higher, and
I think the tolerance is much lower for foolishness beyond
the Broccoli family. I'm just saying, fans of James Bond
have a certain level of expectation. That's why there's so
much emphasis placed on who's going to be the next Bond,
(24:57):
because it has to measure up to previous Bonds or
hopefully exceed.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, Bond fans love to argue about every choice that's made,
every casting decision, and that's fine. I mean, I didn't
like the last several of them, but I love James Bond.
And you know, if you're a Bond fan, it's like,
you know, only you can say certain things about your
brother or sister. If anybody else does, you're gonna kick
their ass. M I particularly liked Daniel Craig as Bond.
(25:27):
He's my second favorite Bond behind Sean Connery. I grew
up with Roger Moore. I like Roger Moore, but he
never felt in the true spirit of the original Bond
movies that my father exposed me to I get that,
and people's opinions on that differ. I think Ian Fleming
may have wanted More before he wanted Sean Connery, and
(25:48):
in fact he didn't want Connery until he got to
know him, because More he had pictured somebody more like
a carry grander of David Niven as James Bond. Initially
he grew to like Connery and then later added details
in a book to account for Connery's Irish ancestry or sorry,
Scottish ancestry. But I mean everybody loves Roger Moore. My
(26:09):
problem with Daniel Craig was that Casino Royale. His first
one was promising, and each one was worse and worse
after that, and Craig himself just became a poudy, moody
James Bond that didn't have any of that death thrill
that you saw with Sean Connery. Like you look at
you look at Sean Connery in the very first one,
(26:29):
Doctor No, when he's in a ride that would terrify
car chase, that would terrify any of us, and you see.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He starts to smile in the middle of this thing.
See somebody dies horribly.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
This comes down to just preference, I think, because what
I liked most about Daniel Craig's portrayal of James Bond
was he was a man with certain frailties and you'd
have to see the result of his proclivities, his drinking.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That became a storyline.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Quantama Solace was a bad movie period, but I liked
where they were trying to go, the fact that he
he did mess around and fall in love, and that's
why I believe he was a womanizer every movie and
scene after that.
Speaker 4 (27:11):
Well, he fell in love on Our Majesty's Secret Service
too with Diana rig no Less. I mean, if you're
if you're going to finally give up the bachelor of life,
that's who you do it for. But I just they
tried to change the Daniel Craig Bond to suit the times.
I mean, you couldn't get away with a lot of
stuff that you did in the sixties or well, Bond
(27:31):
was invented in the fifties. Okay, that was when those
stories were written, but Ryle might have been fifty three
when it was probable.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But that, of course, you have to update the character
because you know, in this post me too world, James
Bond just betting a woman every single night while he's
out there quote unquote saving the British Empire. Is not
as attractive today as it was forty years ago. It
seems a little sociopathic now. But I think some of
the changes they made to Bond just made ordinary and
(28:01):
there were things that were purposely, purposely left out of
the movies and the books, such as Bond's background. Like
a lot of people love Skyfall, which is beautifully filmed.
It's a great looking movie. But the part about you know,
him thinking of female m Judy dench A as a
mother figure, terrible, terrible. The people responsible for that understood nothing,
(28:24):
and I despise that. Yeah, But then by that argumentation,
I think you would be more angry about a Roger
Moore because Roger Moore never broke a sweat. There was
no depth to his portrayal of James Bond.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
I you know, I just like Roger Moore, and I
don't take those movies as seriously as the first six.
What do you mean you didn't like Moonraker? Moonraker got
a little too silly. I love Live and Let Die.
It was a blacksplaitation movie. Basically, I love the Spy
love Man and I right before The Spy Who Loved
Me was The Man with the Golden Gun, which had
(28:57):
Christopher Lee in it. To superheroes of cult cinema, more
and Lee a fun movie, I thought things started to
get to Like the tag tagline for The Spy Who
Loved Me was It's bigger, It's better, It's Bond and beyond,
and that turned out to be too much for me.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
There's some fun stuff in the movie, though.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Before we go to break, where do you think this
goes with the James Bond ip? Do you think Amazon
bends to the will of the Broccoli family or is
this something in between.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I don't think the Broccoli people mind sitting on their
hands until things go their way. Look at how long
they waited between before they got Pierce Brosnan and between
Brosnan and Craig and Dalton. They want things done their way,
and even if you don't like the way they do
certain things, they're going to have things their way.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I admire that about them.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I can't tell you, like, if I were in charge,
I'd take it all the way back to the fifties
or the sixties mad Man where Bond that character made
more sense because it's like the ship of Theseus. You
change too many things about it, you might as well
call it something else.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
This is later with Moke Kelly. This is not Greek
history and tragedy. I don't need you quoting Homer in
the Iliad. No, no, no, Dylan Sharp it is come on, man,
it's too smart for the audience.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The analogy is how much do you change a thing
before it's a completely different thing, one thing at a time,
and then suddenly you look at it and it's like, oh,
that's not James Bond anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I don't know if today's audiences care. I know the
family cares, but I don't know if audiences care to
that degree.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Well, what they've seen is copies of copies of copies,
and so I would love to strip it down and
get it right back down to basics.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But this is an audience, which is our people now,
who will just as much love a John Wick or
ad Jason Bourne or a Transporter any one of those
characters and not feel that they lose anything.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
So you take Ja Bourne and the Tom Cruise Mission impossibles,
and you've got to discern for yourself what made Bond
different from all of those and more exciting and harder
and meaner. And that's there to be found, but you
got to dig for it.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But I would be open to a crossover movie where
James Bond made an appearance and a John Wick movie
at the Continental Hotel and Jason Bourne was there, and
just all the killers just happened, just one scene ethan hunt,
just all of them, just one scene.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Just like a Justice League of Killer Spies. Yep, just
one scene. Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And they don't have to refer to him as James Bond,
to just call him James or something, so everyone would know,
oh they're talking about Double seven.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
You're opening up a whole nother thing that we don't
have time to get into, which was fine. How does
everyone know who he is? If he's a secret agent?
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Everybody knows, oh, mister Bond, everybody expecting you.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, a secret agent, and yet everybody knows what he
drinks everywhere and they know his name first and last name.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Well, okay, we got to stop. We gotta stop. I
am six forty, We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Because we come down to the end of this evening
as we get closer to Christmas Eve. I have some
friends maybe you do too, and some family who do
the gift exchange on Christmas Eve. That's something my family's
only done maybe once or twice, but it's always intrigued
me when you do it on Christmas Eve. Some do
it Christmas morning. My family, we do it like Christmas evening.
(32:29):
It's like, gosh, Lee, you're making the kids wait all
darn day and we'll have the Christmas gift exchanged right
before dinner.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Right before dinner.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
I'm gonna be going over to my sister's house and
it'll be fifty eleven people over there, and hopefully I'll
get the chance to watch some.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Of the NBA games. That's all I want. I want
to eat watch the basketball games.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's all I'm asking for, and I know I'm speaking
for just about most men out there. That's all we want.
Here's a suggestion to a woman listening or could be
a man. Let your man watch the basketball games. Make
sure he gets a good plate he gets to watch
the basketball games. Maybe you have a cup where he
(33:15):
can sip on something during the game, and you'll have
a fantastic Christmas. Because we as men, we are so
very simple. Sometimes we're so simple you'll want to make
it difficult. Just give us the simple stuff and then
everything will just fall into place. And no, I'm not
talking to you, Tiffany Hobbs, even though I'm looking at
you making sure you're hearing me.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
I hear you loud and clear, and I am seeing TJ,
my fiance next to me, nodding his head. And I
plan to heed your advice, mister mo Kelly.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And if you haven't listened to it later with mo
Kelly or previously the bo Kelly Show, we do a
nice rendition of twice the night before Christmas every single year,
so be sure to check that out tomorrow as we
sign off tomorrow, and have a wonderful, wonderful Christmas holiday,
and we'll talk to you on the other side of Christmas.
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