January 18, 2025 • 35 mins
HR 1 Chris Merrill is sitting in for Mo’Kelly tonight. After six long nights away, Palisades residents are returning home. And there’s a house that sustained the fires, Chris digs in as to why the house withstood. // Many neighborhoods are still off-limits to residents. Evacuees say they are increasingly frustrated, and at a loss over what to do next. // House Speaker Mike Johnson confirmed to reporters Monday there’s ‘been some discussion’ of tying California wildfire aid to a debt limit increase, after GOP members raised the issue with Donald Trump in several meetings at the President-elect's Florida resort this weekend. // As the world has watched the Los Angeles wildfires, seeing the loss and destruction that accompanies environmental disaster, some influencers have seen opportunity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kf I Am six. You're listening to Later with Moe
Kelly on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Chris Maryland from today k if I Am six forty.
Listen anytime on demand of the iHeartRadio App. Pleasure being
with you this evening back again Sunday night as well,
So please you you're in your car, in your house, whatever, board,
join us every Sunday afternoon. In the meantime, I wanted
to start with this. We'll talk obviously wildfires, the kind.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Of thing going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was fascinated when I saw a story, and there
are a couple of different news channels that were covering
this one today. It's fascinating. When I saw this story,
I didn't think I didn't think this was a thing.
Fire resistant homes. Now, when I think of a fire
resistant home, I think of a like a medieval castle.
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I don't think of a I don't think of a
fire resistant home as something built during modern times. It
feels like it should be something built only out of
brick or stone or something of that sort. But evidently
there's there's a couple whose home is standing because they
retrofitted it to make it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Basically, I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To say fireproof, but let's say highly fire resistant. I
gotta believe that there's gonna be some building code changes
that are coming our way.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Gotta believe that's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't see in the same way that earthquakes hit,
we change the building codes so that high rise buildings
are earthquake resistant, that homes are more sturdy, or will
give a little.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Bit whatever it is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
In Florida, you build your house so that it can
resist hurricanes. The Midwest you make things tornado.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Noah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But here I feel like fires are now used to
be earthquakes was the big one. Fires seem to be
now the natural disaster that everybody has to worry abou
out because it's not It's not an.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
If, but a when it feels. And maybe I'm mistaken
on that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Maybe I don't mean to be sensational, but I mean,
for Pete's sake, after witnessing what we just did, is
is any neighborhood safe? I don't think it is, so
I think new building codes are likely to take into account.
What can we do to not only protect the home
and the people inside, but create a fire block. If
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you have Let's say you've got a number of homes.
So you've got the I don't know, a hundred homes
right that are all built with fire resistant materials. The
fire can't get past If those homes aren't catching fire,
that means the fire runs out of fuel and can't
burn the homes on the other side of that that
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that hundred, Now those may be those homes may be
damaged severely, but it could potentially save thousands of homes
on the other side. I mean, basically, you're building fire
breaks along the way. So here's what they did. ABC
seven was talking with with this group in the Palisades
that did this retrofit to make things fire resilient.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Michael Kovac and his wife Karina Mayor moved to the
Pacific Palisades in two thousand and two into a nineteen
fifties home. They say they deconstructed the home, donated the
parts to Habitat for Humanity, and built their current home.
Both Michael and Karina are avid environmentalists, and Michael's architecture
firm specializes in hillside homes and environmental design.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The use seems to be kind of a serendipitous coincidence.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It was their home as a project to explore sustainable
systems in wildfire resilience.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
So we have fiber cement siding that is extremely fire resilient.
We have a very high performance commercial called a Class
A roof.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hey, fiber cement siding is that mark? Is not what
they use in bathroom remodel? Is that what they have
behind the shower? I'm not your guy for that. I
couldn't tell you. Foosh, are you manly enough to know
the answer to that?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Oh no, look at him?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
No way? Yeah, no, me neither.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Okay, we have a planted green roof, which is a
very fire resilient feature. We have commercial glazing, so insulated
glass which prevents radiated heat from going through the windows
and igniting the house from within.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't think I would have thought of a planted
green roof as being highly fire resistant. When we see
all the brush catching fire, you think of the You
think of that organic material as being fuel. But evidently
it's better than the alternatives. No, it feels like tile
would be more fire resistant than the planted green roofs,
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but what do I know?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And then on the back of the house, we were
always concerned that a fire would approach, which it did
from the bottom of the hill up, so we have
a fause check fire retardant system that we were able
to call and activate.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Their home is LEAD Platinum certified. LEAD stands for Leadership
and Energy and Environmental Design. They believe these fire resilient
features save their home.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Last week seeing all of our friends and neighbors houses
gone as brutal.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Their goal is to highlight ways others can protect through
homes in fire prone areas, so no one has to
go through this again.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I think people's reactions and realization lag behind the science.
So I think that science was warning us of this
a long time ago, and that we're on an exponential
curve and things beyond our imagination are going to continue
to happen, So we need to look reality in the
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face and prepare ourselves.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
The good news is that we can do this. I
mean architecturally, as a construction industry, there are not hugely
expensive ways to rebuild in a way that would make
sure this didn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The Pacific Palisades. Jays Chapatel ABC seven Eyewitness Snooze.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh, thank you very much, nice job.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You know, he said, they're not terribly expensive ways, but
they are going to be a little more expensive. I
don't know that there's any way around it. I just
I wish there were. I wish we could say we're
going to change the building code and it's not going
to cost any more money. But I mean it is.
There's no way around it, and I don't know that
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they can go on without changing the code. Think of
the political fallout that the that the leaders are getting
right now. I mean there's a lot of there's a
lot of nationals pointing fingers at Gavin Newsom. He really
screwed up out there. He's a he's a he's a
bad dude. He's an evil villain. And imagine that he
says we got to change the building code. They're gonna
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be people that say, oh, how dare he do this?
He's making the rebuilding more expensive. This is part of
his his plan to destroy California. And you know how
the politicians talk, are the the wonks talk when they
take to the internet, the keyboard warriors.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But imagine if he doesn't. I mean, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We didn't change the building codes, or we certainly haven't
retrofitted very many. I mean these people did, but we
saw what happened in Paradise, We saw what happened with
the campfire.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We're seeing this. We know it's not a question of
if we're.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Going to have one hundred thousand acre fire that will
be highly destructive every year.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's the new normal.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know, those used to be the biggest fires in
history would be one hundred or two hundred thousand acres.
Now it's million acres to really get a lot of notice,
or it has to do a billion dollars worth of damage,
which is what we're seeing. Could be one of the
estimates now somewhere between thirty and one hundred and thirty
billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Kind of a wide range. But if they don't change
the code after this, you have to believe.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That the next fire that is destructive and claims lives,
the fingers will be pointed in saying it's not like
you didn't know, you have to do You didn't do anything,
and they're not going to at that time be able
to say yeah. But you know, we ran into a
lot of people saying it was going to make construction
too expensive, and we wanted to keep housing prices down
because after the fact, you don't get to explain yourself
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out of it. We're seeing that right now with, for instance,
the empty reservoir, and people are explaining, look, the reservoir
had to be repaired, and it wasn't something that you
could do overnight.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You know, it takes time. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It doesn't matter. There wasn't any water in the reservoir
when we needed water. And so the thing is, why
did you do it in a way that didn't have
water available when you needed it?
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So if you don't make this change now, then when
the time comes, you're not going to be able to
explain yourself. You can't rationalize, well, you know, we didn't
make things safer because we were concerned about the housing
costs going up. People are gonna say, who cares about
housing costs? There's x amount of people that have died.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
How dare you? You know what I mean? You just
don't see it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I don't see us going forward without making drastic changes
in in the building codes. It's gonna happen, by the way.
But do we have like thirty six people still missing
thirty I think we're at thirty six. That number, you know,
can grow and go up and down. We have sort
of a repository for people that are reported missing. So
(09:18):
we put that up at KFI AM six forty dot
com slash missing. We made it easy for people like
me that aren't real bright KFI AM six forty dot
com slash missing. And you'll see the people that are
on there, I think their driver's license photos most most
of them. And you'll also see tragically, most of them
are over the age of seventy and many of them
have mobility issues, bedridden or mobility issues.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It is disheartening because you have a really really bad
feeling how so many of those missing person cases are
going to end up. So as we find out about
more names and we get more photos, we'll add those
again to KFI AM six forty dot com slash missing.
What about getting back into the homes? Because Mayor bas
says there's nothing more important?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Does that mean you can go up right now? Yeah,
don't try it.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I Heart Radio hosting a special California town hall
with Governor Newsom Sunday Sunday Sunday nine am across iHeart Radios, California, stations,
including KFI AM six forty. Governor Newsom's gonna take questions
from Californians who have been impacted by the recent fires
and then discuss plans for the future of our states.
Will be sure to tune into KFI Sunday morning at nine.
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All right, So great way to get the word out.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is our time to shine, isn't it. I mean,
this is the time that people go, I gotta have
the radio on. I gotta have you're not streaming this stuff, Nope,
you're not pulling up your Netflix to find out what's
going on with the Governor has to say nope, come
in here, r a d I O.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's the reason that the the reason the industry has
been around for well over one hundred years. As we
do it, what we do. Take that gen Z.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Did want to Oh yeah, a new SOMEO is he
ordered to new some put out an executive order? He
ordered an executive order. How do you say that he
enacted in executive orders? Newsom's executive order expedites temporary housing
construction for wildfire displaced Californians, and in doing so, it
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eases restrictions on mobile homes and builds on burned lots.
It strengthens protections against price gouging, capping rental increases at
ten percent, and then targeting predatory practices by landlords and
property buyers. Eight shelters with capacity of eight hundred people
have been open. Soaring real estate prices and housing inequalities persist,
particularly in the affluent areas like Pacific Palisades. So one
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of the things about the Palisades that is interesting is
that people who are not here believe that the policy
is all Hollywood elitists, and of course that's not always
the case. Certainly there are some legacy homeowners. Is that
it is that I feel like that word works. They
are legacy homeowners. They are not the multi good jillionaires
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they are They're people who have been there their whole lives.
In some cases, you've got generational homeownership. But now that
the homes are gone, are those people going to be
able to rebuild? Or is Pacific Palisades now going to
become an elitist enclave because because all the older places
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are out of there, and the only people that can
afford to rebuild are the ones that have a ton
of money. Yeah, I guess time will tell on that one,
but it sounds like Newsome doesn't want that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
To be the case.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I just don't know that it's not going to be
the case. I also don't know. I don't know how
many people who don't have a lot of disposable income,
and by a lot, I mean if you mill, I
don't know how many are willing to take the risk
of rebuilding in an area that that just burned. Sort
of a once bitten twice shy situation. I mean, I
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get that lightning doesn't strike twice, right, That's that's the
old adage. Lightning never strikes in the same place twice.
But if I got hit my lightning on the golf course,
I might not go golfing again. Forget not golfing in
a thunderstorm. I might not just ever step on a
golf course again. I learned my lesson, you know. So
I there's a chance that people go forget it and
(13:35):
then they get out. If they have insurance, they take
that insurance pay out and they go I'm going to Idaho. Yeh,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Mayor Karen Bass says her top priority, what is it?
Top priority?
Speaker 10 (13:48):
But my message to Los Angeles is that after the
fires are out.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Definitively, I'm going back to Ghana.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
There is no greater priority than getting people back home,
and the first step to that are crews that are
working tirelessly.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
To lift evacuation orders.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
But I want to be very clear about this because
the decisions about lifting evacuation orders will be done by
public safety officials and it's going to be based on
safety and danger.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Which is kind of the way to say safety again.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Okay, yesterday and today some evacuation orders will be lifted,
and I want to thank our firefighters for that. Other
zones are going to take longer. There's lots of hazardous
waste and I could see that yesterday. You could see
paint cans, you could see batteries from electric vehicles, gas
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leaks and more so. But the EPA hazard teams are
already deployed as our army of firefighters hells these fires
and withdraws. We will be moving in with an army.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Of builders, like the people and equipment that you see here.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
I know there is so much frustration because when people
know that one side of the street houses might be destroyed,
the other side of the street houses intact, and why
can't they get home.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, I'd be frustrated too.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
This is an unprecedented natural disaster and warrants an unprecedented response.
We are going to do everything we can to clear
the way so that people can get back home. Okay,
this means that we're going to have to reorganize government around.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
New world order. New world order. No, that's not what
she's going for.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
Around urgency, a common sense, and compassion, and we will
do everything we can to get Angelino's back home. I've done,
and we'll be doing and rolling out next week a
series of executive directives to do just that, working in
connection with our city Council. Many city council members have
put forward motions. We're going to be collaborating on that
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because some of those motions can get done quicker by
turning them into executive directives.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Uh huh.
Speaker 10 (16:16):
But I will tell you that this is why I
have appointed Steve Soberoff to serve as the Chief Recovery
Officer for the City of Los Angeles for phase one
of us building back LA Strong.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So Okay, sorry, I'm just trying to I'm trying to
parse through political speak here. Guys, did she say anything?
What I just heard is you should we want to
get you home. I know you're frustrated. I gave a
guy a new job. I also wonder it is his
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job scapegoated? I mean, does she appoint him to be
the director of being a scapegoat if things don't go right?
Because if there's one thing, I know, we will find
something that ain't right and we will argue about it
and then we're gonna point fingers at somebody. Is this
just kind of her way to put somebody between her
and the critics? Or am I just being cynical?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I just I don't trust politicians.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Just don't man, Am I a cynic augh speaking of
politicians that you shouldn't trust? The federal government, of course,
has some disaster relief aid. The Congress can allocate some
of that disaster relief aid. All Congress has to do
is vote on it and then it gets signed. But
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is it possible that we turn the wildfires into a
real opportunity? As the politicians like to say, never let
a good crisis go to waste.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
You're listening too later with more O Kelly on Demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm sure you've heard this by now, so I'm not
telling you anything new, but just to reset, make sure
we're all on the same page. Earlier this week, the
House Speaker Mike Johnson was talking with reporters and said
that there have been some discussion of tying California wildfire
aid to a debt limit increase, after some members of
his party raised the issue with Donald Trump in several
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meetings at the President Elect's Florida resort this weekend.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I did see.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That Jim Jordan is encouraging Trump to move the Olympics
out of LA to a red city. Did you catch
that one, Ronner.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We're gonna not the Olympic one, but all sorts of
stories about people trying to tie conditions to disasterate when
none was tied to disasters in their states.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't think there's have there ever been conditions tied
to disaster, to the best of my recollection, not up
to now, and I don't think there will be. I've seen,
we've seen this play out before. I think that Johnson
is either he's floating a trial balloon just to see if,
if if the base takes the red meat, you know,
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or I don't know, maybe he's just trolling California.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I did hear a clip of Trump saying something fairly
similar though, but.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Again, he's he is probably the greatest internet troll of
all time.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And you can take that either as a compliment ori
it in soul. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah, I'm going to recuse myself from commenting on it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
But but Trump knows how to just say things that
are going to torque people, right, I mean, he just knows.
He just no if I say this, people are going
to go bonkers, and then that's a distraction. Uh, it
gets his base all riled up, and then people start
fighting online.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, it's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't think it's a real healthy hobby for the
president to have, but he's very good at it. So
maybe Johnson's just trolling California. Jordan's saying that that Trump
should move the Olympics to a red city kind of
blows my mind because I don't think Jim Jordan realizes
the Olympic host city is not the president's call.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I don't think he really gets that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I don't know how you're going to executive order
the Olympics out of California and into out of Dallas
or something.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I don't see that, like, oh, the wildfires are a.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Mess, it's Newsom's fault. Moved the Olympics to Nashville. No, No,
that's not gonna happen. And let's also remember that every
city in America that would be even remotely close to
being large enough to host the Olympics is run by Democrats.
And that's your rural urban divide. The big cities are
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run by Democrats. So I don't know where Jim Jordan
thinks that you're gonna to take the Olympics and put
them in a red city?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
What what red city? You're not gonna find one, So
not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Meanwhile, alex Pidia Senator was talking with KTLA and they
asked him specifically about the fire politics, and here's what
he had to say about it.
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Look, I find personally find it offensive and insulting that
they would exploit this situation and leverage families that are
hurting to condition aid and try to advance other parts
of their agenda.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Now, to be clear, they haven't, but there's a there's
been some discussion. So they haven't done anything yet, good
or bad. They haven't done anything. What Congress does nothing?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, I get it.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Donald Trump won the election, and I get it the
Republicans are in the majority in the House and the Senate.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But never in our.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Nation's history how we conditioned aid. Never have Democrats tried
to leverage AID, going back to just last year. You know,
in front of committee today was former Governor Bergham from
North Dakota who requested a disaster declaration from President Biden.
It was granted Democrats. Not for a second thought about
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how do we leverages? How do we impose conditions?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No, wait a minute, I'm not so sure I believe that.
Speaker 11 (22:24):
Granted Democrats now for a second thought about had we leverages?
How do we impose conditions?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Not for a second you're telling me nobody thought about
anything to do with that. Nobody thought, you know what,
North Dakota wants this stuff, Maybe this is our chance
to stop a pipeline. No, nobody ever, that never crossed
anybody's mind. I don't believe it. I don't believe that.
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Never for a second did we think about anything like that.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
That.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Somebody behind closed doors said, I mean, you guys want
to throw the pipeline thing on this relief package, And
the people around the table went I think we'd probably
lose that battle, and I think we're gonna get torn out.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't think that's a game we want to play.
But don't tell me. Nobody thought about it.
Speaker 11 (23:18):
So it it's never been done, it should not start now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't disagree he says it's never been done, shouldn't
start now. I would agree with what Padilla has to
say on that absolutely, But again, I honestly don't think
there will be any condition Now. Look, here's the thing.
Anyone that knows my wife can simply ask her, is
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Chris wrong? Very often? And she will tell you all
the time. So I could be dead wrong. But I
don't think I'm wrong on this one. I don't think so.
I don't think there's gonna be conditions tied to it.
There may be some wrangling behind the deporte stuff, sanctuary cities,
sanctuary state immigration policy, when it comes to some federal
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dollars coming to the state for other things. I don't
think it's going to be this because I think I
think if the Republicans tied the well being of Americans
to whatever their pet agenda was at the time, in
the face of a disaster like this, I think it
would burn them badly. I also think that we're in
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a weird spot where making the suggestion publicly is safe enough.
There was a time that if you made such a suggestion,
that would have been political masochism.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But I don't necessarily think we're in that stage. We
are definitely beyond that point where.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, the internet the wants, the crazies on the
left and the right who are paying very close attention
to the politics, they'll just go about on the Internet anyway,
and everyone else is getting burned out on it, and
they just tune out the nonsense. It really is a
lot of noise out of Washington, just a lot of noise,
and people are tired of the noise. But the people
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who make donations and get out the vote, they just
eat it all up. They love it to death. By
the way, we still have dozens of people missing, and
this is a tragedy too. I saw some of the
photographs and I think they're from the State Ideas. We
posted those at KFI AM six forty dot com slash missing.
So we've got photos of people that have been reported
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missing by the La County Sheriff's Department from both Palisades
and the eaton fire areas and you can see those
the people, their photographs, the names. You'll also see tragically
that so many of them are elderly, many disabled, bedraided,
and you just you got a bad feeling about it.
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But until we know, we keep looking. So please have
a gander at that KFIAM six forty dot com slash missing.
Take a look at the people that are missing that
we're looking for. Some may have dementia, they just might
not know what's going on. And it's almost like having
one of those silver alerts right where we just go, look,
we just got.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
To find them.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They might be okay, they just don't know what's going on.
Let's try to find them. So maybe you can help
with that KFIAM six forty dot com slash missing. All right,
some residents are trying to get back to their homes.
Some are being allowed, not all, in fact, I would
say not even very many, but some are being allowed.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The world is watching the LA wildfires. We're seeing the
loss and the devastation that is accompanying the environmental disaster.
But that means that there's an opportunity for some people. No,
not just the politicians. Come to find out, there's another
group of people that that need to have their day
in the sun. Influencers. Yes, as the world is watching
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La burn, some influencers are taking the opportunity to go
get themselves a nice selfie with a fire in the background.
Videos circulating of would be influencers filming dances and videos
in the shadows of the disaster area. Others facing backlash
from making get ready with me while I evacuate videos
or using the fires to promote wellness products. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, I think we've I think we've crossed the rubicon.
I don't think there's any coming back from this.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think we're too far gone as a society. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Come to find out the nihilists were right all along. Yep,
it just there's nothing, nothing really matters. Let me see
self style content RAPPI rap excuse me rampant during the
Maui wildfires as well, and as a result, the local
Hawaii community expressing how troubling they felt that they're devastating
losses were being turned into social media spectacle and of
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course that's what we're getting right now. As people are
getting their selfies in front of other people's homes burning
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, we're dear. There's nothing left.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Nope, nothing left, last one out, turn off the lights,
nothing left to save here.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Society is screwed. We're toasted. Meanwhile, there will be some
trying to get back to their homes.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
The latest day is it could take weeks before you
can get back to your home if your home is
still standing. For some people, their homes may still be standing,
but the idea of going back to live there, you're
talking months in some cases years before you can even
get back into a living situation inside a home that
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didn't burn down. About a home that sustained some sort
of damage or the incredible heat that perhaps melted some
of the internal parts of the home. So we're gonna
play that in a minute. Just sit tight, don't play
it yet.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Can you believe that people playing audio on this program
randomly hitting buttons?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Terrible? Very unprofessional guys, very unprofessional. It was me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So what happens is you've got this intense fire, this
intense heat for hours around a home. Think of all
of the stuff that's inside your house that could not
handle excessive heat for a long period of time and
give you an example of how quickly things can can happen.
So I lived in Arizona in the past and I
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had things in a storage unit. I left them in
that storage unit for about two years. It's just in Arizona,
and you know, Arizona gets hot. Inside the storage unit
gets pretty hot. I'm gonna say temperatures inside that storage
unit probably got up to one thirty one twenty five,
maybe one thirty on the hottest days in July and August.
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When I went and emptied my storage unit because what
was I'd moved, but I left stuff in Arizona and
then I went back and got it a couple of
years later. When I went back and got things, I
had stuff that had just melted. I had, I had
bags that had disintegrated.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I had kind of felt covers on furniture, you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Know, like on the bottom you know what I'm talking about,
That that it's like a cover on the bottom of
your furniture so that redinents don't get up in there
or whatever. That had just completely disintegrated. That was a
low temperature. There was a long exposure to a warm temperature. Certainly,
not talking about temperatures that would boil water like we
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see with these fires going over to some of these homes.
So I want you to consider that if you've got
a home and you had this intense heat of that,
think of all the stuff that is susceptible to heat
that could be damaged simply by being exposed to high temperatures,
even for a relatively short amount of time, an hour
or two. Think about the stuff that you've got that
your home needs. Gaskets, seals. You know, you may have
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some expansion that goes on. You may have latex paint
that starts to melt or at least droop a little bit.
I mean you're gonna have You're gonna have expansion and
contraction that is gonna loosen up fasteners. You may have
dry wall or ceiling that starts to sag simply because
it got so incredibly hot and then went away. There
will be restoration projects going on for years. There aren't
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enough restoration companies to come in and make everything good
in another six weeks.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It will not happen.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You will have people that won't be able to get
back into their homes into a living situation simply because
of the immense heat that was near their home. And
that's that's the truth. Even if your home is standing,
it doesn't mean that your home is ready to move
back into. So for many people it's all about getting
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in there just to evaluate. For some it'll be weeks
before they can even get in to evaluate, Others getting
it a little bit sooner. This is the ABC seven
was talking about this. Okay, now, go ahead, sound guy,
go ahead and play that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
Thousands of Encino residents allowed back home for the first time,
and nearly a week quot to be back.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
I think knowing that, you know, the police officers protected
our neighborhood, is so grateful, really happy to be back home.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
As of this afternoon, residence in the areas on the
outskirts of the Palisades fire are allowed back home, but
those neighborhoods still aren't open to the public. Police still
checking ideas for everyone coming through to ensure it's only
people who live here.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, and people who want to take selfies of course, goobers.
For many, it's been a long.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
Week staying with family or friends, not sure if and
when they'd come home.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
How many people are CouchSurfing right now how many thousands
of people do you think are just sacked on a
friend or a family member's couch, and we'll be for
weeks to come.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Uh, that is not a great sitch.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, we're going home now.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
No, we're not going home now.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
Yes, we're going home now.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
The winds are coming in our direction.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
No, the winds are going Man, that back and forth
was very, very very tired.
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Last Friday night is the Palisades fire reached Mulholland and
cast an ominous fiery glow over the San Fernando Valley,
entire neighborhoods.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
We're told to evacuate, so we were kind of preparing
for the worst. We got a car, we got a
few car loads of stuff, We packed it all up.
We were ready waiting. We were getting up on the roof.
We take turns sleeping, so that everyone was always watching
to see how close it would get. It was pretty
crazy for those that's.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Pretty smart, just get everything ready to go, but you
don't want to leave because you're afraid looters are going
to come through again.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
We're screwed society. It's just toast. There's nothing left to save.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
For those neighborho just directly impacted by the fire. It
may be restricted for another week or possibly longer.
Speaker 13 (34:04):
The goal is to be able to have a damage
assessment done by the professionals, and then to do abatement
of the hazardous materials and certainly then the search and
recovery of remains.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
All of those things that are in process.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
Right now, and so to be going into that zone
and interfering with any of that would be problematic and
not beneficial to the community overall.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, investigations and everything else that they have to do.
This is going to be We're going to be talking
about this for months to come. I mean just months.
This is not something where we go, oh man, I
can't believe you guys remember the wildfire from earlier this year. No, no, no,
this is gonna be We're gonna be talking about it
in real time for months to come. By the way,
iHeartRadio is hosting a special California town hall with Governor
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Newsom on Sunday Sunday Sunday nine am across iHeart California stations,
including KFI AM six forty. Governor Newsom, taking questions from
Californians who've been impacted by the recent is going to
discuss plans for the future of the state, so make
sure you're listening to what he has to say.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
On KFI Sunday morning, nine am.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I got to shift away from the fires just a
little bit too what could be an even bigger disaster.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And that is day one.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's Executive Order Palooza coming Monday to a country near you.
Chris Marriland from o Kelly I AM six forty. We're
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening so
later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Listen anytime on demand of the iHeartRadio App. Pleasure being
with you this evening back again Sunday night as well,
So please you you're in your car, in your house, whatever, board,
join us every Sunday afternoon. In the meantime, I wanted
to start with this. We'll talk obviously wildfires, the kind.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Of thing going on.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was fascinated when I saw a story, and there
are a couple of different news channels that were covering
this one today. It's fascinating. When I saw this story,
I didn't think I didn't think this was a thing.
Fire resistant homes. Now, when I think of a fire
resistant home, I think of a like a medieval castle.
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I don't think of a I don't think of a
fire resistant home as something built during modern times. It
feels like it should be something built only out of
brick or stone or something of that sort. But evidently
there's there's a couple whose home is standing because they
retrofitted it to make it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Basically, I'm not going.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
To say fireproof, but let's say highly fire resistant. I
gotta believe that there's gonna be some building code changes
that are coming our way.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Gotta believe that's happening.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't see in the same way that earthquakes hit,
we change the building codes so that high rise buildings
are earthquake resistant, that homes are more sturdy, or will
give a little.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Bit whatever it is, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
In Florida, you build your house so that it can
resist hurricanes. The Midwest you make things tornado.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Noah, they don't.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But here I feel like fires are now used to
be earthquakes was the big one. Fires seem to be
now the natural disaster that everybody has to worry abou
out because it's not It's not an.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
If, but a when it feels. And maybe I'm mistaken
on that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Maybe I don't mean to be sensational, but I mean,
for Pete's sake, after witnessing what we just did, is
is any neighborhood safe? I don't think it is, so
I think new building codes are likely to take into account.
What can we do to not only protect the home
and the people inside, but create a fire block. If
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you have Let's say you've got a number of homes.
So you've got the I don't know, a hundred homes
right that are all built with fire resistant materials. The
fire can't get past If those homes aren't catching fire,
that means the fire runs out of fuel and can't
burn the homes on the other side of that that
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that hundred, Now those may be those homes may be
damaged severely, but it could potentially save thousands of homes
on the other side. I mean, basically, you're building fire
breaks along the way. So here's what they did. ABC
seven was talking with with this group in the Palisades
that did this retrofit to make things fire resilient.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Michael Kovac and his wife Karina Mayor moved to the
Pacific Palisades in two thousand and two into a nineteen
fifties home. They say they deconstructed the home, donated the
parts to Habitat for Humanity, and built their current home.
Both Michael and Karina are avid environmentalists, and Michael's architecture
firm specializes in hillside homes and environmental design.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
The use seems to be kind of a serendipitous coincidence.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It was their home as a project to explore sustainable
systems in wildfire resilience.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
So we have fiber cement siding that is extremely fire resilient.
We have a very high performance commercial called a Class
A roof.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Hey, fiber cement siding is that mark? Is not what
they use in bathroom remodel? Is that what they have
behind the shower? I'm not your guy for that. I
couldn't tell you. Foosh, are you manly enough to know
the answer to that?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Oh no, look at him?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
No way? Yeah, no, me neither.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Okay, we have a planted green roof, which is a
very fire resilient feature. We have commercial glazing, so insulated
glass which prevents radiated heat from going through the windows
and igniting the house from within.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I don't think I would have thought of a planted
green roof as being highly fire resistant. When we see
all the brush catching fire, you think of the You
think of that organic material as being fuel. But evidently
it's better than the alternatives. No, it feels like tile
would be more fire resistant than the planted green roofs,
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but what do I know?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
And then on the back of the house, we were
always concerned that a fire would approach, which it did
from the bottom of the hill up, so we have
a fause check fire retardant system that we were able
to call and activate.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Their home is LEAD Platinum certified. LEAD stands for Leadership
and Energy and Environmental Design. They believe these fire resilient
features save their home.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Last week seeing all of our friends and neighbors houses
gone as brutal.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Their goal is to highlight ways others can protect through
homes in fire prone areas, so no one has to
go through this again.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I think people's reactions and realization lag behind the science.
So I think that science was warning us of this
a long time ago, and that we're on an exponential
curve and things beyond our imagination are going to continue
to happen, So we need to look reality in the
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face and prepare ourselves.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
The good news is that we can do this. I
mean architecturally, as a construction industry, there are not hugely
expensive ways to rebuild in a way that would make
sure this didn't happen again.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The Pacific Palisades. Jays Chapatel ABC seven Eyewitness Snooze.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Oh, thank you very much, nice job.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You know, he said, they're not terribly expensive ways, but
they are going to be a little more expensive. I
don't know that there's any way around it. I just
I wish there were. I wish we could say we're
going to change the building code and it's not going
to cost any more money. But I mean it is.
There's no way around it, and I don't know that
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they can go on without changing the code. Think of
the political fallout that the that the leaders are getting
right now. I mean there's a lot of there's a
lot of nationals pointing fingers at Gavin Newsom. He really
screwed up out there. He's a he's a he's a
bad dude. He's an evil villain. And imagine that he
says we got to change the building code. They're gonna
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be people that say, oh, how dare he do this?
He's making the rebuilding more expensive. This is part of
his his plan to destroy California. And you know how
the politicians talk, are the the wonks talk when they
take to the internet, the keyboard warriors.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But imagine if he doesn't. I mean, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
We didn't change the building codes, or we certainly haven't
retrofitted very many. I mean these people did, but we
saw what happened in Paradise, We saw what happened with
the campfire.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We're seeing this. We know it's not a question of
if we're.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Going to have one hundred thousand acre fire that will
be highly destructive every year.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
That's the new normal.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know, those used to be the biggest fires in
history would be one hundred or two hundred thousand acres.
Now it's million acres to really get a lot of notice,
or it has to do a billion dollars worth of damage,
which is what we're seeing. Could be one of the
estimates now somewhere between thirty and one hundred and thirty
billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Kind of a wide range. But if they don't change
the code after this, you have to believe.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That the next fire that is destructive and claims lives,
the fingers will be pointed in saying it's not like
you didn't know, you have to do You didn't do anything,
and they're not going to at that time be able
to say yeah. But you know, we ran into a
lot of people saying it was going to make construction
too expensive, and we wanted to keep housing prices down
because after the fact, you don't get to explain yourself
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out of it. We're seeing that right now with, for instance,
the empty reservoir, and people are explaining, look, the reservoir
had to be repaired, and it wasn't something that you
could do overnight.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
You know, it takes time. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It doesn't matter. There wasn't any water in the reservoir
when we needed water. And so the thing is, why
did you do it in a way that didn't have
water available when you needed it?
Speaker 8 (08:35):
Right?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
So if you don't make this change now, then when
the time comes, you're not going to be able to
explain yourself. You can't rationalize, well, you know, we didn't
make things safer because we were concerned about the housing
costs going up. People are gonna say, who cares about
housing costs? There's x amount of people that have died.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
How dare you? You know what I mean? You just
don't see it.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I don't see us going forward without making drastic changes
in in the building codes. It's gonna happen, by the way.
But do we have like thirty six people still missing
thirty I think we're at thirty six. That number, you know,
can grow and go up and down. We have sort
of a repository for people that are reported missing. So
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we put that up at KFI AM six forty dot
com slash missing. We made it easy for people like
me that aren't real bright KFI AM six forty dot
com slash missing. And you'll see the people that are
on there, I think their driver's license photos most most
of them. And you'll also see tragically, most of them
are over the age of seventy and many of them
have mobility issues, bedridden or mobility issues.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
It is.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It is disheartening because you have a really really bad
feeling how so many of those missing person cases are
going to end up. So as we find out about
more names and we get more photos, we'll add those
again to KFI AM six forty dot com slash missing.
What about getting back into the homes? Because Mayor bas
says there's nothing more important?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Does that mean you can go up right now? Yeah,
don't try it.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
But I Heart Radio hosting a special California town hall
with Governor Newsom Sunday Sunday Sunday nine am across iHeart Radios, California, stations,
including KFI AM six forty. Governor Newsom's gonna take questions
from Californians who have been impacted by the recent fires
and then discuss plans for the future of our states.
Will be sure to tune into KFI Sunday morning at nine.
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All right, So great way to get the word out.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This is our time to shine, isn't it. I mean,
this is the time that people go, I gotta have
the radio on. I gotta have you're not streaming this stuff, Nope,
you're not pulling up your Netflix to find out what's
going on with the Governor has to say nope, come
in here, r a d I O.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's the reason that the the reason the industry has
been around for well over one hundred years. As we
do it, what we do. Take that gen Z.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Did want to Oh yeah, a new SOMEO is he
ordered to new some put out an executive order? He
ordered an executive order. How do you say that he
enacted in executive orders? Newsom's executive order expedites temporary housing
construction for wildfire displaced Californians, and in doing so, it
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eases restrictions on mobile homes and builds on burned lots.
It strengthens protections against price gouging, capping rental increases at
ten percent, and then targeting predatory practices by landlords and
property buyers. Eight shelters with capacity of eight hundred people
have been open. Soaring real estate prices and housing inequalities persist,
particularly in the affluent areas like Pacific Palisades. So one
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of the things about the Palisades that is interesting is
that people who are not here believe that the policy
is all Hollywood elitists, and of course that's not always
the case. Certainly there are some legacy homeowners. Is that
it is that I feel like that word works. They
are legacy homeowners. They are not the multi good jillionaires
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they are They're people who have been there their whole lives.
In some cases, you've got generational homeownership. But now that
the homes are gone, are those people going to be
able to rebuild? Or is Pacific Palisades now going to
become an elitist enclave because because all the older places
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are out of there, and the only people that can
afford to rebuild are the ones that have a ton
of money. Yeah, I guess time will tell on that one,
but it sounds like Newsome doesn't want that.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
To be the case.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I just don't know that it's not going to be
the case. I also don't know. I don't know how
many people who don't have a lot of disposable income,
and by a lot, I mean if you mill, I
don't know how many are willing to take the risk
of rebuilding in an area that that just burned. Sort
of a once bitten twice shy situation. I mean, I
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get that lightning doesn't strike twice, right, That's that's the
old adage. Lightning never strikes in the same place twice.
But if I got hit my lightning on the golf course,
I might not go golfing again. Forget not golfing in
a thunderstorm. I might not just ever step on a
golf course again. I learned my lesson, you know. So
I there's a chance that people go forget it and
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then they get out. If they have insurance, they take
that insurance pay out and they go I'm going to Idaho. Yeh,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
No.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Mayor Karen Bass says her top priority, what is it?
Top priority?
Speaker 10 (13:48):
But my message to Los Angeles is that after the
fires are out.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Definitively, I'm going back to Ghana.
Speaker 10 (13:57):
There is no greater priority than getting people back home,
and the first step to that are crews that are
working tirelessly.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
To lift evacuation orders.
Speaker 10 (14:11):
But I want to be very clear about this because
the decisions about lifting evacuation orders will be done by
public safety officials and it's going to be based on
safety and danger.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Which is kind of the way to say safety again.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Okay, yesterday and today some evacuation orders will be lifted,
and I want to thank our firefighters for that. Other
zones are going to take longer. There's lots of hazardous
waste and I could see that yesterday. You could see
paint cans, you could see batteries from electric vehicles, gas
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leaks and more so. But the EPA hazard teams are
already deployed as our army of firefighters hells these fires
and withdraws. We will be moving in with an army.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Of builders, like the people and equipment that you see here.
Speaker 10 (15:09):
I know there is so much frustration because when people
know that one side of the street houses might be destroyed,
the other side of the street houses intact, and why
can't they get home.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, I'd be frustrated too.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
This is an unprecedented natural disaster and warrants an unprecedented response.
We are going to do everything we can to clear
the way so that people can get back home. Okay,
this means that we're going to have to reorganize government around.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
New world order. New world order. No, that's not what
she's going for.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
Around urgency, a common sense, and compassion, and we will
do everything we can to get Angelino's back home. I've done,
and we'll be doing and rolling out next week a
series of executive directives to do just that, working in
connection with our city Council. Many city council members have
put forward motions. We're going to be collaborating on that
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because some of those motions can get done quicker by
turning them into executive directives.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Uh huh.
Speaker 10 (16:16):
But I will tell you that this is why I
have appointed Steve Soberoff to serve as the Chief Recovery
Officer for the City of Los Angeles for phase one
of us building back LA Strong.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
So Okay, sorry, I'm just trying to I'm trying to
parse through political speak here. Guys, did she say anything?
What I just heard is you should we want to
get you home. I know you're frustrated. I gave a
guy a new job. I also wonder it is his
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job scapegoated? I mean, does she appoint him to be
the director of being a scapegoat if things don't go right?
Because if there's one thing, I know, we will find
something that ain't right and we will argue about it
and then we're gonna point fingers at somebody. Is this
just kind of her way to put somebody between her
and the critics? Or am I just being cynical?
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I just I don't trust politicians.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Just don't man, Am I a cynic augh speaking of
politicians that you shouldn't trust? The federal government, of course,
has some disaster relief aid. The Congress can allocate some
of that disaster relief aid. All Congress has to do
is vote on it and then it gets signed. But
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is it possible that we turn the wildfires into a
real opportunity? As the politicians like to say, never let
a good crisis go to waste.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
You're listening too later with more O Kelly on Demand
from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm sure you've heard this by now, so I'm not
telling you anything new, but just to reset, make sure
we're all on the same page. Earlier this week, the
House Speaker Mike Johnson was talking with reporters and said
that there have been some discussion of tying California wildfire
aid to a debt limit increase, after some members of
his party raised the issue with Donald Trump in several
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meetings at the President Elect's Florida resort this weekend.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I did see.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That Jim Jordan is encouraging Trump to move the Olympics
out of LA to a red city. Did you catch
that one, Ronner.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
We're gonna not the Olympic one, but all sorts of
stories about people trying to tie conditions to disasterate when
none was tied to disasters in their states.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't think there's have there ever been conditions tied
to disaster, to the best of my recollection, not up
to now, and I don't think there will be. I've seen,
we've seen this play out before. I think that Johnson
is either he's floating a trial balloon just to see if,
if if the base takes the red meat, you know,
(19:19):
or I don't know, maybe he's just trolling California.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I did hear a clip of Trump saying something fairly
similar though, but.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Again, he's he is probably the greatest internet troll of
all time.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And you can take that either as a compliment ori
it in soul. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Yeah, I'm going to recuse myself from commenting on it.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
But but Trump knows how to just say things that
are going to torque people, right, I mean, he just knows.
He just no if I say this, people are going
to go bonkers, and then that's a distraction. Uh, it
gets his base all riled up, and then people start
fighting online.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, it's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I don't think it's a real healthy hobby for the
president to have, but he's very good at it. So
maybe Johnson's just trolling California. Jordan's saying that that Trump
should move the Olympics to a red city kind of
blows my mind because I don't think Jim Jordan realizes
the Olympic host city is not the president's call.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I don't think he really gets that.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So I don't know how you're going to executive order
the Olympics out of California and into out of Dallas
or something.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I don't see that, like, oh, the wildfires are a.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Mess, it's Newsom's fault. Moved the Olympics to Nashville. No, No,
that's not gonna happen. And let's also remember that every
city in America that would be even remotely close to
being large enough to host the Olympics is run by Democrats.
And that's your rural urban divide. The big cities are
(20:55):
run by Democrats. So I don't know where Jim Jordan
thinks that you're gonna to take the Olympics and put
them in a red city?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
What what red city? You're not gonna find one, So
not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Meanwhile, alex Pidia Senator was talking with KTLA and they
asked him specifically about the fire politics, and here's what
he had to say about it.
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Look, I find personally find it offensive and insulting that
they would exploit this situation and leverage families that are
hurting to condition aid and try to advance other parts
of their agenda.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Now, to be clear, they haven't, but there's a there's
been some discussion. So they haven't done anything yet, good
or bad. They haven't done anything. What Congress does nothing?
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know, I get it.
Speaker 11 (21:50):
Donald Trump won the election, and I get it the
Republicans are in the majority in the House and the Senate.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
But never in our.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Nation's history how we conditioned aid. Never have Democrats tried
to leverage AID, going back to just last year. You know,
in front of committee today was former Governor Bergham from
North Dakota who requested a disaster declaration from President Biden.
It was granted Democrats. Not for a second thought about
(22:18):
how do we leverages? How do we impose conditions?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
No, wait a minute, I'm not so sure I believe that.
Speaker 11 (22:24):
Granted Democrats now for a second thought about had we leverages?
How do we impose conditions?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Not for a second you're telling me nobody thought about
anything to do with that. Nobody thought, you know what,
North Dakota wants this stuff, Maybe this is our chance
to stop a pipeline. No, nobody ever, that never crossed
anybody's mind. I don't believe it. I don't believe that.
(22:53):
Never for a second did we think about anything like that.
Speaker 8 (22:57):
That.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Somebody behind closed doors said, I mean, you guys want
to throw the pipeline thing on this relief package, And
the people around the table went I think we'd probably
lose that battle, and I think we're gonna get torn out.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
I don't think that's a game we want to play.
But don't tell me. Nobody thought about it.
Speaker 11 (23:18):
So it it's never been done, it should not start now.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't disagree he says it's never been done, shouldn't
start now. I would agree with what Padilla has to
say on that absolutely, But again, I honestly don't think
there will be any condition Now. Look, here's the thing.
Anyone that knows my wife can simply ask her, is
(23:42):
Chris wrong? Very often? And she will tell you all
the time. So I could be dead wrong. But I
don't think I'm wrong on this one. I don't think so.
I don't think there's gonna be conditions tied to it.
There may be some wrangling behind the deporte stuff, sanctuary cities,
sanctuary state immigration policy, when it comes to some federal
(24:06):
dollars coming to the state for other things. I don't
think it's going to be this because I think I
think if the Republicans tied the well being of Americans
to whatever their pet agenda was at the time, in
the face of a disaster like this, I think it
would burn them badly. I also think that we're in
(24:30):
a weird spot where making the suggestion publicly is safe enough.
There was a time that if you made such a suggestion,
that would have been political masochism.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
But I don't necessarily think we're in that stage. We
are definitely beyond that point where.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You know, the internet the wants, the crazies on the
left and the right who are paying very close attention
to the politics, they'll just go about on the Internet anyway,
and everyone else is getting burned out on it, and
they just tune out the nonsense. It really is a
lot of noise out of Washington, just a lot of noise,
and people are tired of the noise. But the people
(25:15):
who make donations and get out the vote, they just
eat it all up. They love it to death. By
the way, we still have dozens of people missing, and
this is a tragedy too. I saw some of the
photographs and I think they're from the State Ideas. We
posted those at KFI AM six forty dot com slash missing.
So we've got photos of people that have been reported
(25:36):
missing by the La County Sheriff's Department from both Palisades
and the eaton fire areas and you can see those
the people, their photographs, the names. You'll also see tragically
that so many of them are elderly, many disabled, bedraided,
and you just you got a bad feeling about it.
(25:57):
But until we know, we keep looking. So please have
a gander at that KFIAM six forty dot com slash missing.
Take a look at the people that are missing that
we're looking for. Some may have dementia, they just might
not know what's going on. And it's almost like having
one of those silver alerts right where we just go, look,
we just got.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
To find them.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
They might be okay, they just don't know what's going on.
Let's try to find them. So maybe you can help
with that KFIAM six forty dot com slash missing. All right,
some residents are trying to get back to their homes.
Some are being allowed, not all, in fact, I would
say not even very many, but some are being allowed.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
The world is watching the LA wildfires. We're seeing the
loss and the devastation that is accompanying the environmental disaster.
But that means that there's an opportunity for some people. No,
not just the politicians. Come to find out, there's another
group of people that that need to have their day
in the sun. Influencers. Yes, as the world is watching
(27:05):
La burn, some influencers are taking the opportunity to go
get themselves a nice selfie with a fire in the background.
Videos circulating of would be influencers filming dances and videos
in the shadows of the disaster area. Others facing backlash
from making get ready with me while I evacuate videos
or using the fires to promote wellness products. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, I think we've I think we've crossed the rubicon.
I don't think there's any coming back from this.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I think we're too far gone as a society. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Come to find out the nihilists were right all along. Yep,
it just there's nothing, nothing really matters. Let me see
self style content RAPPI rap excuse me rampant during the
Maui wildfires as well, and as a result, the local
Hawaii community expressing how troubling they felt that they're devastating
losses were being turned into social media spectacle and of
(28:04):
course that's what we're getting right now. As people are
getting their selfies in front of other people's homes burning
to the ground.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, we're dear. There's nothing left.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Nope, nothing left, last one out, turn off the lights,
nothing left to save here.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Society is screwed. We're toasted. Meanwhile, there will be some
trying to get back to their homes.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
The latest day is it could take weeks before you
can get back to your home if your home is
still standing. For some people, their homes may still be standing,
but the idea of going back to live there, you're
talking months in some cases years before you can even
get back into a living situation inside a home that
(28:57):
didn't burn down. About a home that sustained some sort
of damage or the incredible heat that perhaps melted some
of the internal parts of the home. So we're gonna
play that in a minute. Just sit tight, don't play
it yet.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Can you believe that people playing audio on this program
randomly hitting buttons?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Terrible? Very unprofessional guys, very unprofessional. It was me.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
So what happens is you've got this intense fire, this
intense heat for hours around a home. Think of all
of the stuff that's inside your house that could not
handle excessive heat for a long period of time and
give you an example of how quickly things can can happen.
So I lived in Arizona in the past and I
(29:49):
had things in a storage unit. I left them in
that storage unit for about two years. It's just in Arizona,
and you know, Arizona gets hot. Inside the storage unit
gets pretty hot. I'm gonna say temperatures inside that storage
unit probably got up to one thirty one twenty five,
maybe one thirty on the hottest days in July and August.
(30:11):
When I went and emptied my storage unit because what
was I'd moved, but I left stuff in Arizona and
then I went back and got it a couple of
years later. When I went back and got things, I
had stuff that had just melted. I had, I had
bags that had disintegrated.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I had kind of felt covers on furniture, you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Know, like on the bottom you know what I'm talking about,
That that it's like a cover on the bottom of
your furniture so that redinents don't get up in there
or whatever. That had just completely disintegrated. That was a
low temperature. There was a long exposure to a warm temperature. Certainly,
not talking about temperatures that would boil water like we
(30:53):
see with these fires going over to some of these homes.
So I want you to consider that if you've got
a home and you had this intense heat of that,
think of all the stuff that is susceptible to heat
that could be damaged simply by being exposed to high temperatures,
even for a relatively short amount of time, an hour
or two. Think about the stuff that you've got that
your home needs. Gaskets, seals. You know, you may have
(31:20):
some expansion that goes on. You may have latex paint
that starts to melt or at least droop a little bit.
I mean you're gonna have You're gonna have expansion and
contraction that is gonna loosen up fasteners. You may have
dry wall or ceiling that starts to sag simply because
it got so incredibly hot and then went away. There
will be restoration projects going on for years. There aren't
(31:42):
enough restoration companies to come in and make everything good
in another six weeks.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
It will not happen.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You will have people that won't be able to get
back into their homes into a living situation simply because
of the immense heat that was near their home. And
that's that's the truth. Even if your home is standing,
it doesn't mean that your home is ready to move
back into. So for many people it's all about getting
(32:08):
in there just to evaluate. For some it'll be weeks
before they can even get in to evaluate, Others getting
it a little bit sooner. This is the ABC seven
was talking about this. Okay, now, go ahead, sound guy,
go ahead and play that.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 12 (32:23):
Thousands of Encino residents allowed back home for the first time,
and nearly a week quot to be back.
Speaker 10 (32:29):
I think knowing that, you know, the police officers protected
our neighborhood, is so grateful, really happy to be back home.
Speaker 12 (32:38):
As of this afternoon, residence in the areas on the
outskirts of the Palisades fire are allowed back home, but
those neighborhoods still aren't open to the public. Police still
checking ideas for everyone coming through to ensure it's only
people who live here.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, and people who want to take selfies of course, goobers.
For many, it's been a long.
Speaker 12 (32:55):
Week staying with family or friends, not sure if and
when they'd come home.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
How many people are CouchSurfing right now how many thousands
of people do you think are just sacked on a
friend or a family member's couch, and we'll be for
weeks to come.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Uh, that is not a great sitch.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, we're going home now.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
No, we're not going home now.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Now.
Speaker 10 (33:15):
Yes, we're going home now.
Speaker 9 (33:16):
The winds are coming in our direction.
Speaker 11 (33:18):
No, the winds are going Man, that back and forth
was very, very very tired.
Speaker 12 (33:23):
Last Friday night is the Palisades fire reached Mulholland and
cast an ominous fiery glow over the San Fernando Valley,
entire neighborhoods.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
We're told to evacuate, so we were kind of preparing
for the worst. We got a car, we got a
few car loads of stuff, We packed it all up.
We were ready waiting. We were getting up on the roof.
We take turns sleeping, so that everyone was always watching
to see how close it would get. It was pretty
crazy for those that's.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Pretty smart, just get everything ready to go, but you
don't want to leave because you're afraid looters are going
to come through again.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
We're screwed society. It's just toast. There's nothing left to save.
Speaker 12 (33:59):
For those neighborho just directly impacted by the fire. It
may be restricted for another week or possibly longer.
Speaker 13 (34:04):
The goal is to be able to have a damage
assessment done by the professionals, and then to do abatement
of the hazardous materials and certainly then the search and
recovery of remains.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
All of those things that are in process.
Speaker 13 (34:17):
Right now, and so to be going into that zone
and interfering with any of that would be problematic and
not beneficial to the community overall.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, investigations and everything else that they have to do.
This is going to be We're going to be talking
about this for months to come. I mean just months.
This is not something where we go, oh man, I
can't believe you guys remember the wildfire from earlier this year. No, no, no,
this is gonna be We're gonna be talking about it
in real time for months to come. By the way,
iHeartRadio is hosting a special California town hall with Governor
(34:49):
Newsom on Sunday Sunday Sunday nine am across iHeart California stations,
including KFI AM six forty. Governor Newsom, taking questions from
Californians who've been impacted by the recent is going to
discuss plans for the future of the state, so make
sure you're listening to what he has to say.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
On KFI Sunday morning, nine am.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I got to shift away from the fires just a
little bit too what could be an even bigger disaster.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
And that is day one.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's Executive Order Palooza coming Monday to a country near you.
Chris Marriland from o Kelly I AM six forty. We're
live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening so
later with mo Kelly.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
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