January 25, 2025 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – ‘Friday Nights’ with L.A. Radio Legend Nautica De La Cruz checking out all the ways that the California Botanic Garden “advances knowledge, conservation, and appreciation of California native plants” AND highlighting today’s ‘Hidden Gem,’ the Southern California Association of Non-Profit Housing (SCANPH) mission to “facilitate development of affordable homes across SoCal by advancing effective public policies, sustainable financial resources, strong member organizations, and beneficial partnerships” … PLUS – Mark Rahner has a review of the new Paramount+ Original Movie “Star Trek: Section 31” in ‘The Rahner Report’ - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Friday Nights with Nautaga de Dak, who was later
on with Mo Kelly. I should say, how are you, Mo?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It is great to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh, great to say you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I have to say I did discover so cal before
the fire, so I was trying to get to a
place where I could breathe a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But this was a beautiful place. I went to.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
The California the California Botanic Garden in Claremont, which was
absolutely beautiful. So I kind of wanted to drive away
from everything that was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well it is, it was a beautiful place to go.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It was as soon as I walked in through the entrance,
I was greeted by the gentle rustling of leaves and
the sweet scent of blooming flowers.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The garden is spread over.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Eighty six acres, so it's kind of quite large, making
it the largest botanic garden dedicated to California NATO planets plants.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I should say everywhere I looked.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
There was something unique and beautiful to admire, from towering
oak trees to colorful wildflowers, dancing in the breeze. One
of the highlights was the desert garden, where I found
cacti of all shapes and sizes. I never knew that
cacti came in different shapes and sizes, and some of
them just bloomed. These beautiful flowers as well, and they
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came from everywhere. Their spiky textures stood out against the
soft sandy paths and nearby. The meadow garden felt like
a scene from a post guard, something that you would
actually get. I also loved exploring the shade feel Woodland garden.
It was kind of cool green space. It was dotted
with a bunch of small little benches where visitors could
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just sit and soak in and just just kind of
sit there still and be quiet. The birds chirped in
the trees, and I even spotted a lizard basking on
a rock. I think it was working on its tan.
I don't know if I was wearing SPF. I'm not sure,
but I also did not ask. The garden has plenty
of signs explaining the plant, so if you're into botany,
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this is definitely a botanic garden that you want to go.
The garden also features a nursery where you could buy
some native plants to take home at a pretty reasonable price,
and I saw a lot of families and gardening enthusiastics
picking out their favorites. There's a charming gift shop that
you want to check out. They have books, they have
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seeds to if you want to plant anything from flowers
to vegetables to the California poppies, they have those as well,
So definitely go check out the shop. It's a great
place to find something unique to remember your visit and
walking through the California Botanic Garden felt both relaxing and inspiring,
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and its wonderful reminder to how diverse and beautiful California's
landscapes can actually be. So if your plan I need
to visit. I have to say it is affordable. It's
not free ninety nine. I know. I like to give
you places to go in southern California that are on
a budget. But it's about fifteen dollars general admission. Seniors
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and students are five dollars. Children under twelve are free.
That's the one part. And the garden is open from
Wednesday through Monday eight am to five pm, and they're
closed on tuesdays. For more details, you could visit cal
I'm sorry, CLBG dot org.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's CLBG dot org.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I want to say that it's also a beautiful place
to have a green wedding if you're thinking about that.
If you're also, like I said, studying botany, or you
want to learn a little bit more about a different
kind of cacti and California plants, it's a great place
to go. It's the California Botanic Garden. The address is
one five zero zero North College Avenue in the city
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of Claremont. And I did go before the fires, of course,
so it was actually a beautiful sunny day. Bring comfortable shoes.
There's a lot to see. Like I said, it's eighty
six acres. It's not small, it's pretty big. But it's
a nice place just to kind of get away from
Los Angeles, get away from everything that's going on right now,
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and just take.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
A deep breath.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, there are a lot of people there with you
at the time that you were there, because when I
go to the different botanic guards around California, there's always people.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There, always always.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I don't think I have been to a California Botanic
Garden and even in the one in Santa Barbara two
that there's just not a lot of people. I mean,
there's there's always someone taking pictures. I see a lot
of people taking what do you call those, like those
pre engagement pictures or engageable Yeah, yeah, I see that.
I see friends who come together with their little water
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flasks and just want to just soak in and catch up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it's a really nice place to go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And I think, you know, we have to disconnect of
everything that's going on. I'm kind of in that mindset
right now, as I was telling Twala, like I just
want to get out of this everything that's going on
here in cal in Southern California, and hopefully with everything
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going on, I will still be discovering Southern California. Yes,
I know it's not funny, but I'm I'm you know,
it's it's it's our this is our city, this is
our town, this is what we love, and I still
want people to discover it because, after all, we we
have wonderful human beings that live in Southern California, and
we have wonderful places. We have a lot to offer,
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a lot of great museums, a lot of great botanic gardens,
things that we I think everyone should explore just a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Not to get too much into your business, but I
am curious, for the most part, are you doing this
exploring solo?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Sometimes sometimes yes, sometimes no, It depends who wants to,
you know, third wheel it with me or or most
most of the time, I go solo, and it's because
I take pictures, I try to write down little notes
on post its, and I want to really and indulge
in what it is that I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I always wonder whether the added person changes the experience,
enhances the experience, or somehow just just makes it just
a different experience.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, I think sometimes if I'm talking about it or
I'm reporting about it, I really want to indulge in
it because I don't want to have a great com
We're in the middle of a great conversation and I
missed it, and I'll be like, wait, wait, wait, I
didn't see that, or what was that again? You know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But I'm also you know, I'm virgo very, I'm a
solo person. I like to do a lot of things
by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, a man, I thought that was a score sagittary thing,
because I like to do a lot of things about myself.
I live prior to getting married, ninety nine percent of
my life was by myself. I would go to the
movies by myself, I would entertain myself, you know, by myself.
Just about everything I did was by myself.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I love it. I do a lot of things by myself.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And my mom used to say, to have to be
miserable and have bad company, you might as well might
as well be your own company, right right, you know.
And I don't feel bad like I have friends that
are like, oh, I couldn't go to the Botanic Garden
by myself.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yes you can, Yes you can.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You could disconnect from your job, you could disconnect from
your family, you could disconnect from the world and just
spend a day walking around beautiful greenery and everything that
California has to offer. So I think it's if you
want to take a friend, yes, I think it's it's
amazing to go. I did see a lot of you know,
mature friends that were there, young friends, families be you know,
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students that were taking pictures and taking notes and doing drawings.
So but it is, it is a beautiful place to go,
and and I encourage you just to get out, get out,
get out of your routine, get out of the things
that you do every single day. Once again, it's the
California Botanic Garden. The website is CLBG dot org and
the addresses one to five zero zero North College Avenue
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in the city of Claremont.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So it's a little bit of drive, but you know
it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I will say that when we come back, we'll have
Nautica's Hidden Gem in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's Friday Nights for Naunica Doc. It was on Later
with Mo Kelly. Today's Hidden Gem is Thomas Rivers. Thomas
Rivers grew up in northern California, where life was anything
but easy. Raised by a single mother in a small,
struggling town, Thomas quickly learned the value of perseverance. From
a young age, he dreamed of becoming a chef and
learning about food nutrition, imagining a future where he could
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create meals that nourished body, his body, and soul. After
graduating high school, he worked multiple jobs to make ends meet,
but he always held onto his vision of making a
difference through food. With a passion for helping others and
a desire to create a meaningful life, he decided to
move right here to Los Angeles, hoping to find opportunities
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that aligned with his goals. However, upon arrival, he faced
a harsh reality. Finding stable housing was a constant challenge.
Thomas spent months couch surfing and working odd jobs, determined
to avoid falling into despair. One day, while volunteer volunteering
at a local food drive, Thomas learned about the Southern
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California Association of Nonprofit Housing SCA n pH dot org. Intrigued,
he began attending community workshops to better understand how affordable
housing could transform lives. He quickly connected with their mission.
Over time, Thomas became a passionate advocate for affordable housing,
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using his own struggles as a driving force.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
During his free time, he volunteered, but he stayed with.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The organization and the organization changed his life. Scanph dot
org was founded in nineteen eighty five by a coalition
of housing advocates. It was established who address Southern California's
growing need for affordable housing. The organization created in response
to a housing crisis that left many families without a
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secure place to live. Its founders believed that every individual
deserves access to safe, affordable housing, and they set out
to create a network of nonprofits, developers, and advocates to
make the vision of reality.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Today.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Scan pH is a leading voice in the fight for
affordable housing. The organization provides training, resources, and advocacy support
to nonprofit developers and community groups working to build and
sustain affordable housing projects. Through public policy work and community education,
scan pH helps bridge the gap between housing needs and solutions,
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creating opportunities for individuals and families to thrive.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
By focusing on collaboration and innovation.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Scan pH has made a lasting impact on communities across
Southern California. If you would like to learn more, if
you'd like to donate, you could log onto scanph dot org.
That scanph dot org, and I want to add, excuse me,
they serve the southern California region of Los Angeles, Orange County, Ventura, Riverside,
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and San Bernardino counties as well. I thought that talking
to him, especially with everything that's going on right now
and the housing market, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That it was such a story just to talk to.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Him about not only hearing his struggles of what he
was going through, but it was it kind of pertained of,
like I said, what was going what's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And I met him.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Through a neighbor because even though he delivers, he works
for he works in a kitchen, but he also does
like what did you call it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Meals on wheels. He does that for senior citizens.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
So it was nice to see that everything and his
struggles that he had gone through, it kind of kind
of went full circle in a way, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And he has a nice little apartment.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
He's living very well. He has a studio apartment. He says,
he lives very minimalism ish kind of in a way,
and he's very happy. So Thomas, I just want to
say I commend you, I thank you, and I'm so.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Glad that your life kind of went full circle.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Okay, Thomas probably doesn't approve of our food conversation we
had during the break.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yes, because I saw on Instagram that you went to
Chicago and you were very bundled up, and then you
also went to a place I used to eat as
a kid, you went to White Castle. I don't think
he would approve that, and I'm not sure if he's listening.
But okay, well just cover your ears.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
All I know is is you were making fun of
the fact that I liked white Castle. Why not, Aica
Della Cruz, Is it wrong for me to like white
castle or have it once every thirty years?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, okay, so when I grew up in New York,
I liked white Castle too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I loved the little sliders, and I sank on the
East coast. Yes, oh, very big.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
There's one like every fifteen, every five miles, I should say, right,
But there was a story that came in the news
and the local news, and so instead of them calling
it white castle, they called it roach castle because there
were some white castles that were infestated with just infested.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
What does that happen to a white castle? That has
to do with those individual restaurants and the managers who
did not keep up there into the bargain as far
as you know health, I.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Know, but they got such a bad rap for that
that it's just you couldn't eat there anymore. And I
stopped eating sliders. But I see that they have them
in the frozen section.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Not the same.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's not the same, It doesn't taste the same. You
don't have as many options, like, for example, in the
actual white Castles, you can get these chicken rings, which
is their alternative to fries. They're actual it's like chicken nuggets,
but they're in the shape of rings. It's a combination
of fries and onion rings. As the presentation. They have
breakfast as well. You have these like the French toast
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bread for the bun. When you have eggs and sausage
in between. It's oh, it's it's really good. It's bad good.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, So can I ask you a questions?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I feel like you told on yourself when I said
they have them now in the frozen section.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Does that mean that you've already you've bought them?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh, I have okay, because I thought, well, this is
the only way that I can get some white Castle.
It's frozen and then you microwave them. I've even tried
to put them in the air fryer. It's just not
the same and part of it and people always want
to clown me.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't like leftovers. And when you get the white
Castle out the frozen food section, it tastes like leftovers.
It tastes like it's food that was preprepared and it
doesn't have the same texture, it doesn't have the same taste,
does have the same aroma, none of that. It's like,
why would I want to get a frozen McDonald's double
quarter pounder with cheese. It's not going to taste the same.
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It's actually going to McDonald's and getting it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And there's nothing like fresh, fresh, fresh, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yes, you know, even if it's unhealthy, I want fresh unhealthy. Well,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Let me ask you. Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh? I love the hell out of it? And I
told you during the break. Could I do it every day?
Could I do it three times a month? Absolutely not?
But that one time, right, that one time, Oh, that
was enough and it was worth it. It's like the
law of diminishing returns. If I had it with any regularity,
I probably would start to hate it. But for a
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one time occurrence being white Castle one night stand. Oh
it was it was level.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And the weather in Chicago, how were you?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I was frozen only when I went outside. It was
not all that often. It was down to ten degrees
when I left, and the windshield was a negative four.
Oh oh yeah, it was time to go.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So when you came back to southern California where you like, ah,
nice sunshine.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, I was happy to just get on the plane
because you know, then I couldn't feel the wind anymore.
That that's why I live here. I don't want to
deal with the extremes in weather, be it heat or cold.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
But so you didn't stop by Garrett's Popcorn, my favorite
place in Chicago and bring me a can.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm sorry. I'm not a big popcorn guy. And the
last time I was in Chicago was like a year
preceding that, I got some Deep Dish pizza and I
forgot to get some White Castle. I said, damn it.
So this time I'm going to make sure I got
some white Castle. I even ordered it Uber Eats. I said,
just get it to me because I was not going
to go out in the cold and get it. Oh no,
oh no, it's not worth it. You'll pay the fifty
dollars for Uber Eats. I have to pay that much.
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It was It was actually only about twelve dollars. Oh
that's good. The food was I think seven, and the Uber
Eats portions like five something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's pretty reasonable.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, it was only like ten minutes away from my hotel,
and you didn't get a roach. No, as far as
I know, you know, well, it dissolved cross t extra.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, those are a quarter apiece.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I just feel so much love.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know we love you.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from KFI,
a M six forty Mark.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Talks about pontificates about pop culture.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Ron and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF. I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeart App. I'm Mark Ronner
and this is the Runner Report. The new movie from
Mel Gibson opens in theaters today, so we'll be talking
about Star Trek Section thirty one on Paramount plus Showtime
Paramount and your room at your parents' house. And I
include myself in that fairly mild insult. There's no point
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even trying to pretend I'm not a Star Trek nerd.
You'll find me in the extras on the Star Trek
three Blu Ray interviewing the producer Harve Bennett. I out
nerded Brannon Braga, a producer and showrunner on some of
the latter day Star Trek stuff on Trivia about the
original series One Night Here. Recently, I'm putting that on
my resume. The original series is my favorite, Strange New
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World's maybe second favorite, but it's hit and miss to me.
The new movie Section thirty one is a spinoff from
Star Trek Discovery, which I dropped and started calling STD
to some up my opinion. I wanted to like it,
but too much yammering about feelings and the like.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Still.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Section thirty one is a spy special ops type of
movie set in the Star Trek universe for the Federation.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Hell yeah, I'll take that for a test drive. Here's
some of the trailer. What are you doing in my
space station? You just to get back in on the
action on a coacted scale.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What a cute idea.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
The only way this works is if I know exactly
what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Billions of lives are at stake.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Gather your people, who are going to need every one
of them.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Thirty one is a black ops division spy work. It
was just a place for people to bund the rules.
Starfleet is here to make sure noone commits murder.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Whatever you believed your mission was it is worse than
you thought.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yes, it is worse than you thought. This stars miserl
Michelle Yo is Philippa Georgio from STD. Since then, she's
gone on to win an Oscar for everything, everywhere, all
at once, and that was well deserved. It was a
good vehicle for STD. I didn't think so much as
much as I revere her. Remember she there's a big
martial arts movie legend before any of this. She doesn't
need us, but the Star Trek role I thought, I
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just didn't play to restraints in this new Star Trek movie.
She is an evil, ruthless emperor from a parallel universe
who was brought to this one. She's recruited to be
on a secret team of assorted weirdos that goes on
secret space missions for the Federation. So far, so good.
I like that formula Dirty dozen Garrison's Guerrillas. Harlan Ellison
did a decent comic called Seven Against Chaos. I even
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wrote one on my own for the John Carter of
Mars universe a few years back at Dynamite. I like
that formula, but this iteration gets irritating fast about twenty
minutes in. In fact, as we're introduced to this team
of oddball aliens and the bicker and give you exposition
with such painful dialogue. It'll make you think an old
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Spock and Bones argument deserves a pulitzer. Really, if you
make it past the twenty minute mark, well done. There's
some easter eggs I liked. For instance, a minor character
who's half black and head white, like the ones in
that original series episode called Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.
Remember that it's pretty deep cut. Didn't know there was
much demand for those though, but it was cool. Remember
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Frank Gorshan was in that episode Freshly cool Off being
the joker the Riddler. Rather in Batman, Caesar Romero was
the joker. It was one of the shows more on
the nose commentaries, the half black, half white people. But
if you haven't seen it, it's fun. Also in the
show in this new movie is a member of the
race of that bald chick from the first Star Trek movie, That.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Bald chick, I'm sorry, the nice bald lady.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Back in nineteen seventy nine when that movie came out,
there were far fewer bald ladies, but now they're a
little more common. I think we've got at least one
in Congress, and she is not a Dalton to my knowledge.
There's not much that is really star trek about this movie, though,
apart from those Easter eggs and the branding of it.
It's just a mediocre, cheap looking derivative, poorly shot, poorly edited,
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overly talkie, low rent thing like you'd see on the
sci Fi channel, or I guess they're still calling it
sci fi, aren't They A couple of big set pieces
that are almost fun. One seems swiped right from the
beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but worse.
The other is from a dozen't fight on the top
of train type of movie scenes. It just kind of
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makes you appreciate those more. One of the team members
looks like a Vulcan but has an Irish accent. There's
a reason for that. He's controlled by some tiny space
parasite thingy and a little ship, but it doesn't outweigh
or excuse the fact that it's so irritating. Who ever thought,
I know what people want to see and Irish Vulcan
who might as well be saying frosted lucky charms, They're
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logically delicious whoever thought that needs to just please go
and do something else. This is the worst Star Trek
character ever, and it really is that kind of stereotypical accent.
I mean, why not just have a vulcan who sounds
like Mickey Rooney and breakfast at Tiffany's while you're out
And no, I'm not doing that accent. Stay off the
dump button, know I know where the line is here.
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There's some super doomsday mcguffin that only the diabolical Empress
Georgia can help them track down and deactivate this bickering
section thirty one team has to work together to get
the job done. Honestly, it's nothing you haven't seen before,
and better lots of times, just with special effects you
could do on a laptop. Added, there's a space battle
that you can see was written to be exciting, but
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it's so inert without the kind of memorable dance music
the old show had. It seems like all the budget
went to that guy's laptop for the effects. In fact,
this really could be any generic movie on sci fi,
or I hate to say it too be. You won't
care about any of the characters whether they live or die.
The dialogue is laugh out loud, bad. Here's a little
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taste here. Enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We call it works like that and we're done. This
is chaos garage. You know you love it?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have you let it in?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Make out with it a little? It's why SOFFI put
you here. Let's you ready?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
No, no, I'm not ready for this, at least not
more of it. Bring on the plasma blast, make out
with chaos, chaos. Did you hear that? Maybe get to
second base with chaos, my God. As a fan of violence,
I never thought i'd say this either, But the fights
go on too long and they're boring. I think the creator,
Gene Roddenberry, might be pleased that while the country's trying
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to zapp all its diversity and civil rights achievements with
a photon torpedo, the cast of Section thirty one is
pretty diverse. But as I said when forced onto a
diversity committee at my first newspaper job, it can be
a little superficial if that's all you're focused on. The
actual substance here is missing, and what there is is
just stale. But at least they seem to be promising
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more of it at the end. Merciful God, please no
publicists here's your pull quote. If you like section thirty one,
you'll qualify for a section eight if you remember this
one really makes me want to hear Kirk's e Plebnista
speech from the original episode. Put your hands over your
heart for this.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Oddly saying we the people that what you call ea plebnista.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh yeah, for the chiefs of kings, for the.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
Warriors or the ritually powerful, but for all the people,
all the people down the centuries. You have slurred the
meaning out of the words we the people, the United States,
in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice
is sure, domestic frontquility, provide for the common defense, promote
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the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ourselves and our posterity.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
To audain and establish this constitutional.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
The yes, bring it home. And I think that's a
good spot to end this week's runner. Or why wasn't
he at the inauguration?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why? Hey, did I ever tell you about the time
that I interviewed William Shatter? Yeah, only about fifty times.
Just want to make sure I love that man. I
love him so mo. I know that you like Star
Trek Discovery a lot more than I did. That's fair.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I don't know what you're gonna think of this movie.
I think even if you liked that show, there's just
not a lot to recommend this one.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My interest waned in Star Trek Discovery. That was pretty
funny STD midway through season three, I thought it lost
its way and ran out a story to tell. It
seemed like it was just just making up stuff, and
it didn't really have the same motivation that it did
in seasons one and two that I really did like.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Sometimes it seems to me like with all the spin
offs and a lot of the later movies, they're almost
intentionally trying to avoid what made the original Star Trek
so great. And I don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh I do. I if you look at the original series,
to me, I think it is too slow and too
cerebral for today's audiences. You look at the movies JJ Abrams,
if you look at the TV shows in the past
ten to fifteen years, far more action that I call
it the Star Wars in effect, where they want it
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to be more action, more pewppew, and less talk.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah, well maybe with the pewppew, but I don't agree
with you that it's slower. I think if you look
at these episodes. They pack a lot of story and
a lot of shorthand character stuff into what forty five
fifty minutes that you just don't see in the serialized
TV today. And that's why I said, you're not going
to care about any of these characters. You look at
any exchange, any conversation between characters and the old one,
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and they reveal so much. These were good writers, the
professional sci fi writers that they had at work on this,
and these these latter day guys. I think what they
read save the Cat once and it's like, here's your script.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah. I think that argument can be made for much
of television as a whole. There's not as much care
given to character development, dialogue, or it's just storytelling.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
This seems to me like a real waste. I mean,
how could you go wrong with a spy special ops
team show set in the Star Trek universe. We know
that Kirk and Spock and whoever else on the original
show they went on secret missions pretty often, right, Imagine
having a whole movie and possible series devoted to that.
But man, did they fumble the ball or whatever is
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used in place of a ball in the twenty third century.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, that was probably the part of the problem. In
Star Trek discovered the series without giving too much away,
it jumped around from century to century to millennium on
the show. I remember that, and.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I'll also never forgive what they did with the Guardian
of Forever from that great original series episode called Sitting
on the Edge of Forever.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
They just made it some dude. Yeah, but that's part
of the reason I would say.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
The the oh.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Let me put it like this. Part of streaming it's
good because you can get more content. The bad is
you get lazier content sometimes. Yeah, quality controls definitely an issue.
When we come back, we'll have more from Mark Bronner.
He doesn't even know this. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, Look, we have to promote your appearance tomorrow. I'd
better hurry with the news.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 3 (29:41):
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But if you want to play name that movie called
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hundred five two zero one five three four and Twala
is awaiting your call. Tomorrow night from seven pm to
nine pm. Mark Runner will be hosting here on KFI
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and Mark, have you given any thought to what types
of material you want to recover? Tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
We're just gonna stick to fun, nothing having nothing serious,
definitely no politics. Will have somebody on to talk about
a comedy charity that is raising money for people affected
by the wildfires. We're gonna talk about the and probably
argue about the Oscar nominations and the Razzie nominations, and
that right there will take up a good chunk.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yes, yes, And that's one thing I do remember about
just being on the weekends. There's so much you want
to cover and you have to start making decisions about
what you can cover, you have time to cover if
there's going to be an interview, and then you realize
there's never enough time.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Two hours goes by really fast, fast, faster than you
would think. It's like, you know, being on the event
horizon of a black hole. You think it's two seconds,
but then you come out and everybody's aged seven years,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So tomorrow night at seven pm, Mark Roner will be hosting.
Have you given any thoughts to the name of your show?
It's called filling in for Michael Monks.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
And think of it like remember the old threes Company show,
Come in, Knock on My Door? Remember when the Ropers
got their spin off and that tanked, But they'd already
replaced him with Don Knatson, so and so those actors
were out of a job. That's how I'm thinking about
tomorrow night. This is how well I know Norman Fell
Audra Lindley, Yes exactly. Yeah, And they were both very
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accomplished in their own right before they even had three's companies. Oh,
Norman Fell was famous for cop rolls. Yes, in fact,
he was the original sidekick to the Girl from Uncle.
Had a long and illustrious career, and then look what
happened when he thought he was big enough to go
out on his own. Actually that wasn't even his decision.
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He was made to do that. But that's how I'm
thinking of tomorrow. It's been nice knowing everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, I'm going to be listening in because you're a
wealth of knowledge or walking encyclopedia. I do not say
that for hyperbole. You know it's true, and I just
like hearing you on the radar. I want to hear
you more. I appreciate that and the pressure.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Something that I've realized is that since I've been doing
this news job, I've also been a show host in Seattle,
but I've become much more of a responder and a
reactor and kind of a bomb thrower.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Than I used to be.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Whereas you know, you as the host, are the initiator,
and you'll throw things to me, and you'll people don't
know that I don't usually know what you're going to
say or talk about. A lot of the times I'll
be handed a very sparse rundown, but sometimes I don't
have time to look at it because I'm racing to
prepare the news. So it's kind of funny are back
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and forth, if you know the behind the scenes stuff
that you've spent quite a bit of time before the
show preparing, and then you just kind of drop stuff
on me and watch me react.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Intentionally, just because I don't know what you're gonna do.
You might just blow up the show.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Or get myself fired, or get the station's licensee. Well
all the above, DYEA none so far yet. But we
always have fun, and so I'm going to actually miss
having the whole crew with me there tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well, I'll be listening. Could you come in? Actually I could,
but I wouldn't ever do that.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I mean, I need you to drive back into the
office with Twala, and you know we're going to have
a board up tomorrow, but Fush, you might as well come.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
To Okay, Well, are you going to buy food for
all of us? Absolutely not? You know what I make? Okay,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Ignorance is bliss.
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Everywhere on the e
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Friday Nights with Nautaga de Dak, who was later
on with Mo Kelly. I should say, how are you, Mo?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It is great to see you.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh, great to say you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
I have to say I did discover so cal before
the fire, so I was trying to get to a
place where I could breathe a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But this was a beautiful place. I went to.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
The California the California Botanic Garden in Claremont, which was
absolutely beautiful. So I kind of wanted to drive away
from everything that was going on.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well it is, it was a beautiful place to go.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It was as soon as I walked in through the entrance,
I was greeted by the gentle rustling of leaves and
the sweet scent of blooming flowers.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
The garden is spread over.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Eighty six acres, so it's kind of quite large, making
it the largest botanic garden dedicated to California NATO planets plants.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I should say everywhere I looked.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
There was something unique and beautiful to admire, from towering
oak trees to colorful wildflowers, dancing in the breeze. One
of the highlights was the desert garden, where I found
cacti of all shapes and sizes. I never knew that
cacti came in different shapes and sizes, and some of
them just bloomed. These beautiful flowers as well, and they
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came from everywhere. Their spiky textures stood out against the
soft sandy paths and nearby. The meadow garden felt like
a scene from a post guard, something that you would
actually get. I also loved exploring the shade feel Woodland garden.
It was kind of cool green space. It was dotted
with a bunch of small little benches where visitors could
(01:48):
just sit and soak in and just just kind of
sit there still and be quiet. The birds chirped in
the trees, and I even spotted a lizard basking on
a rock. I think it was working on its tan.
I don't know if I was wearing SPF. I'm not sure,
but I also did not ask. The garden has plenty
of signs explaining the plant, so if you're into botany,
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this is definitely a botanic garden that you want to go.
The garden also features a nursery where you could buy
some native plants to take home at a pretty reasonable price,
and I saw a lot of families and gardening enthusiastics
picking out their favorites. There's a charming gift shop that
you want to check out. They have books, they have
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seeds to if you want to plant anything from flowers
to vegetables to the California poppies, they have those as well,
So definitely go check out the shop. It's a great
place to find something unique to remember your visit and
walking through the California Botanic Garden felt both relaxing and inspiring,
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and its wonderful reminder to how diverse and beautiful California's
landscapes can actually be. So if your plan I need
to visit. I have to say it is affordable. It's
not free ninety nine. I know. I like to give
you places to go in southern California that are on
a budget. But it's about fifteen dollars general admission. Seniors
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and students are five dollars. Children under twelve are free.
That's the one part. And the garden is open from
Wednesday through Monday eight am to five pm, and they're
closed on tuesdays. For more details, you could visit cal
I'm sorry, CLBG dot org.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
That's CLBG dot org.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I want to say that it's also a beautiful place
to have a green wedding if you're thinking about that.
If you're also, like I said, studying botany, or you
want to learn a little bit more about a different
kind of cacti and California plants, it's a great place
to go. It's the California Botanic Garden. The address is
one five zero zero North College Avenue in the city
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of Claremont. And I did go before the fires, of course,
so it was actually a beautiful sunny day. Bring comfortable shoes.
There's a lot to see. Like I said, it's eighty
six acres. It's not small, it's pretty big. But it's
a nice place just to kind of get away from
Los Angeles, get away from everything that's going on right now,
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and just take.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
A deep breath.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well, there are a lot of people there with you
at the time that you were there, because when I
go to the different botanic guards around California, there's always people.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There, always always.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I don't think I have been to a California Botanic
Garden and even in the one in Santa Barbara two
that there's just not a lot of people. I mean,
there's there's always someone taking pictures. I see a lot
of people taking what do you call those, like those
pre engagement pictures or engageable Yeah, yeah, I see that.
I see friends who come together with their little water
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flasks and just want to just soak in and catch up.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it's a really nice place to go.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
And I think, you know, we have to disconnect of
everything that's going on. I'm kind of in that mindset
right now, as I was telling Twala, like I just
want to get out of this everything that's going on
here in cal in Southern California, and hopefully with everything
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going on, I will still be discovering Southern California. Yes,
I know it's not funny, but I'm I'm you know,
it's it's it's our this is our city, this is
our town, this is what we love, and I still
want people to discover it because, after all, we we
have wonderful human beings that live in Southern California, and
we have wonderful places. We have a lot to offer,
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a lot of great museums, a lot of great botanic gardens,
things that we I think everyone should explore just a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Not to get too much into your business, but I
am curious, for the most part, are you doing this
exploring solo?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Sometimes sometimes yes, sometimes no, It depends who wants to,
you know, third wheel it with me or or most
most of the time, I go solo, and it's because
I take pictures, I try to write down little notes
on post its, and I want to really and indulge
in what it is that I'm seeing.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, I always wonder whether the added person changes the experience,
enhances the experience, or somehow just just makes it just
a different experience.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, I think sometimes if I'm talking about it or
I'm reporting about it, I really want to indulge in
it because I don't want to have a great com
We're in the middle of a great conversation and I
missed it, and I'll be like, wait, wait, wait, I
didn't see that, or what was that again? You know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
But I'm also you know, I'm virgo very, I'm a
solo person. I like to do a lot of things
by myself.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, a man, I thought that was a score sagittary thing,
because I like to do a lot of things about myself.
I live prior to getting married, ninety nine percent of
my life was by myself. I would go to the
movies by myself, I would entertain myself, you know, by myself.
Just about everything I did was by myself.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I love it. I do a lot of things by myself.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And my mom used to say, to have to be
miserable and have bad company, you might as well might
as well be your own company, right right, you know.
And I don't feel bad like I have friends that
are like, oh, I couldn't go to the Botanic Garden
by myself.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yes you can, Yes you can.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You could disconnect from your job, you could disconnect from
your family, you could disconnect from the world and just
spend a day walking around beautiful greenery and everything that
California has to offer. So I think it's if you
want to take a friend, yes, I think it's it's
amazing to go. I did see a lot of you know,
mature friends that were there, young friends, families be you know,
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students that were taking pictures and taking notes and doing drawings.
So but it is, it is a beautiful place to go,
and and I encourage you just to get out, get out,
get out of your routine, get out of the things
that you do every single day. Once again, it's the
California Botanic Garden. The website is CLBG dot org and
the addresses one to five zero zero North College Avenue
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in the city of Claremont.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So it's a little bit of drive, but you know
it's worth it.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I will say that when we come back, we'll have
Nautica's Hidden Gem in just a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
It's Friday Nights for Naunica Doc. It was on Later
with Mo Kelly. Today's Hidden Gem is Thomas Rivers. Thomas
Rivers grew up in northern California, where life was anything
but easy. Raised by a single mother in a small,
struggling town, Thomas quickly learned the value of perseverance. From
a young age, he dreamed of becoming a chef and
learning about food nutrition, imagining a future where he could
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create meals that nourished body, his body, and soul. After
graduating high school, he worked multiple jobs to make ends meet,
but he always held onto his vision of making a
difference through food. With a passion for helping others and
a desire to create a meaningful life, he decided to
move right here to Los Angeles, hoping to find opportunities
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that aligned with his goals. However, upon arrival, he faced
a harsh reality. Finding stable housing was a constant challenge.
Thomas spent months couch surfing and working odd jobs, determined
to avoid falling into despair. One day, while volunteer volunteering
at a local food drive, Thomas learned about the Southern
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California Association of Nonprofit Housing SCA n pH dot org. Intrigued,
he began attending community workshops to better understand how affordable
housing could transform lives. He quickly connected with their mission.
Over time, Thomas became a passionate advocate for affordable housing,
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using his own struggles as a driving force.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
During his free time, he volunteered, but he stayed with.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
The organization and the organization changed his life. Scanph dot
org was founded in nineteen eighty five by a coalition
of housing advocates. It was established who address Southern California's
growing need for affordable housing. The organization created in response
to a housing crisis that left many families without a
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secure place to live. Its founders believed that every individual
deserves access to safe, affordable housing, and they set out
to create a network of nonprofits, developers, and advocates to
make the vision of reality.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Today.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Scan pH is a leading voice in the fight for
affordable housing. The organization provides training, resources, and advocacy support
to nonprofit developers and community groups working to build and
sustain affordable housing projects. Through public policy work and community education,
scan pH helps bridge the gap between housing needs and solutions,
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creating opportunities for individuals and families to thrive.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
By focusing on collaboration and innovation.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Scan pH has made a lasting impact on communities across
Southern California. If you would like to learn more, if
you'd like to donate, you could log onto scanph dot org.
That scanph dot org, and I want to add, excuse me,
they serve the southern California region of Los Angeles, Orange County, Ventura, Riverside,
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and San Bernardino counties as well. I thought that talking
to him, especially with everything that's going on right now
and the housing market, I think.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That it was such a story just to talk to.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Him about not only hearing his struggles of what he
was going through, but it was it kind of pertained of,
like I said, what was going what's going on right now?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And I met him.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Through a neighbor because even though he delivers, he works
for he works in a kitchen, but he also does
like what did you call it?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Meals on wheels. He does that for senior citizens.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
So it was nice to see that everything and his
struggles that he had gone through, it kind of kind
of went full circle in a way, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
And he has a nice little apartment.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
He's living very well. He has a studio apartment. He says,
he lives very minimalism ish kind of in a way,
and he's very happy. So Thomas, I just want to
say I commend you, I thank you, and I'm so.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Glad that your life kind of went full circle.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Okay, Thomas probably doesn't approve of our food conversation we
had during the break.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Yes, because I saw on Instagram that you went to
Chicago and you were very bundled up, and then you
also went to a place I used to eat as
a kid, you went to White Castle. I don't think
he would approve that, and I'm not sure if he's listening.
But okay, well just cover your ears.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
All I know is is you were making fun of
the fact that I liked white Castle. Why not, Aica
Della Cruz, Is it wrong for me to like white
castle or have it once every thirty years?
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, okay, so when I grew up in New York,
I liked white Castle too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I loved the little sliders, and I sank on the
East coast. Yes, oh, very big.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
There's one like every fifteen, every five miles, I should say, right,
But there was a story that came in the news
and the local news, and so instead of them calling
it white castle, they called it roach castle because there
were some white castles that were infestated with just infested.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
What does that happen to a white castle? That has
to do with those individual restaurants and the managers who
did not keep up there into the bargain as far
as you know health, I.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Know, but they got such a bad rap for that
that it's just you couldn't eat there anymore. And I
stopped eating sliders. But I see that they have them
in the frozen section.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Not the same.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's not the same, It doesn't taste the same. You
don't have as many options, like, for example, in the
actual white Castles, you can get these chicken rings, which
is their alternative to fries. They're actual it's like chicken nuggets,
but they're in the shape of rings. It's a combination
of fries and onion rings. As the presentation. They have
breakfast as well. You have these like the French toast
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bread for the bun. When you have eggs and sausage
in between. It's oh, it's it's really good. It's bad good.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, So can I ask you a questions?
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I feel like you told on yourself when I said
they have them now in the frozen section.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Does that mean that you've already you've bought them?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Oh, I have okay, because I thought, well, this is
the only way that I can get some white Castle.
It's frozen and then you microwave them. I've even tried
to put them in the air fryer. It's just not
the same and part of it and people always want
to clown me.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I don't like leftovers. And when you get the white
Castle out the frozen food section, it tastes like leftovers.
It tastes like it's food that was preprepared and it
doesn't have the same texture, it doesn't have the same taste,
does have the same aroma, none of that. It's like,
why would I want to get a frozen McDonald's double
quarter pounder with cheese. It's not going to taste the same.
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It's actually going to McDonald's and getting it.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And there's nothing like fresh, fresh, fresh, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yes, you know, even if it's unhealthy, I want fresh unhealthy. Well,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Let me ask you. Did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh? I love the hell out of it? And I
told you during the break. Could I do it every day?
Could I do it three times a month? Absolutely not?
But that one time, right, that one time, Oh, that
was enough and it was worth it. It's like the
law of diminishing returns. If I had it with any regularity,
I probably would start to hate it. But for a
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one time occurrence being white Castle one night stand. Oh
it was it was level.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And the weather in Chicago, how were you?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I was frozen only when I went outside. It was
not all that often. It was down to ten degrees
when I left, and the windshield was a negative four.
Oh oh yeah, it was time to go.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So when you came back to southern California where you like, ah,
nice sunshine.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, I was happy to just get on the plane
because you know, then I couldn't feel the wind anymore.
That that's why I live here. I don't want to
deal with the extremes in weather, be it heat or cold.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I don't either. I don't either.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
But so you didn't stop by Garrett's Popcorn, my favorite
place in Chicago and bring me a can.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I'm sorry. I'm not a big popcorn guy. And the
last time I was in Chicago was like a year
preceding that, I got some Deep Dish pizza and I
forgot to get some White Castle. I said, damn it.
So this time I'm going to make sure I got
some white Castle. I even ordered it Uber Eats. I said,
just get it to me because I was not going
to go out in the cold and get it. Oh no,
oh no, it's not worth it. You'll pay the fifty
dollars for Uber Eats. I have to pay that much.
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It was It was actually only about twelve dollars. Oh
that's good. The food was I think seven, and the Uber
Eats portions like five something like that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's pretty reasonable.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, it was only like ten minutes away from my hotel,
and you didn't get a roach. No, as far as
I know, you know, well, it dissolved cross t extra.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, those are a quarter apiece.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I just feel so much love.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I know we love you.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on Demand from KFI,
a M six forty Mark.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Talks about pontificates about pop culture.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Ron and Report with Mark Ronner.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
It's Later with Mo Kelly on KF. I am six
forty live everywhere on the iHeart App. I'm Mark Ronner
and this is the Runner Report. The new movie from
Mel Gibson opens in theaters today, so we'll be talking
about Star Trek Section thirty one on Paramount plus Showtime
Paramount and your room at your parents' house. And I
include myself in that fairly mild insult. There's no point
(18:10):
even trying to pretend I'm not a Star Trek nerd.
You'll find me in the extras on the Star Trek
three Blu Ray interviewing the producer Harve Bennett. I out
nerded Brannon Braga, a producer and showrunner on some of
the latter day Star Trek stuff on Trivia about the
original series One Night Here. Recently, I'm putting that on
my resume. The original series is my favorite, Strange New
(18:30):
World's maybe second favorite, but it's hit and miss to me.
The new movie Section thirty one is a spinoff from
Star Trek Discovery, which I dropped and started calling STD
to some up my opinion. I wanted to like it,
but too much yammering about feelings and the like.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Still.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Section thirty one is a spy special ops type of
movie set in the Star Trek universe for the Federation.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Hell yeah, I'll take that for a test drive. Here's
some of the trailer. What are you doing in my
space station? You just to get back in on the
action on a coacted scale.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
What a cute idea.
Speaker 7 (19:10):
The only way this works is if I know exactly
what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Billions of lives are at stake.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Gather your people, who are going to need every one
of them.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Thirty one is a black ops division spy work. It
was just a place for people to bund the rules.
Starfleet is here to make sure noone commits murder.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
Whatever you believed your mission was it is worse than
you thought.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Yes, it is worse than you thought. This stars miserl
Michelle Yo is Philippa Georgio from STD. Since then, she's
gone on to win an Oscar for everything, everywhere, all
at once, and that was well deserved. It was a
good vehicle for STD. I didn't think so much as
much as I revere her. Remember she there's a big
martial arts movie legend before any of this. She doesn't
need us, but the Star Trek role I thought, I
(20:06):
just didn't play to restraints in this new Star Trek movie.
She is an evil, ruthless emperor from a parallel universe
who was brought to this one. She's recruited to be
on a secret team of assorted weirdos that goes on
secret space missions for the Federation. So far, so good.
I like that formula Dirty dozen Garrison's Guerrillas. Harlan Ellison
did a decent comic called Seven Against Chaos. I even
(20:28):
wrote one on my own for the John Carter of
Mars universe a few years back at Dynamite. I like
that formula, but this iteration gets irritating fast about twenty
minutes in. In fact, as we're introduced to this team
of oddball aliens and the bicker and give you exposition
with such painful dialogue. It'll make you think an old
(20:49):
Spock and Bones argument deserves a pulitzer. Really, if you
make it past the twenty minute mark, well done. There's
some easter eggs I liked. For instance, a minor character
who's half black and head white, like the ones in
that original series episode called Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.
Remember that it's pretty deep cut. Didn't know there was
much demand for those though, but it was cool. Remember
(21:10):
Frank Gorshan was in that episode Freshly cool Off being
the joker the Riddler. Rather in Batman, Caesar Romero was
the joker. It was one of the shows more on
the nose commentaries, the half black, half white people. But
if you haven't seen it, it's fun. Also in the
show in this new movie is a member of the
race of that bald chick from the first Star Trek movie, That.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Bald chick, I'm sorry, the nice bald lady.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Back in nineteen seventy nine when that movie came out,
there were far fewer bald ladies, but now they're a
little more common. I think we've got at least one
in Congress, and she is not a Dalton to my knowledge.
There's not much that is really star trek about this movie, though,
apart from those Easter eggs and the branding of it.
It's just a mediocre, cheap looking derivative, poorly shot, poorly edited,
(21:58):
overly talkie, low rent thing like you'd see on the
sci Fi channel, or I guess they're still calling it
sci fi, aren't They A couple of big set pieces
that are almost fun. One seems swiped right from the
beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, but worse.
The other is from a dozen't fight on the top
of train type of movie scenes. It just kind of
(22:19):
makes you appreciate those more. One of the team members
looks like a Vulcan but has an Irish accent. There's
a reason for that. He's controlled by some tiny space
parasite thingy and a little ship, but it doesn't outweigh
or excuse the fact that it's so irritating. Who ever thought,
I know what people want to see and Irish Vulcan
who might as well be saying frosted lucky charms, They're
(22:41):
logically delicious whoever thought that needs to just please go
and do something else. This is the worst Star Trek
character ever, and it really is that kind of stereotypical accent.
I mean, why not just have a vulcan who sounds
like Mickey Rooney and breakfast at Tiffany's while you're out
And no, I'm not doing that accent. Stay off the
dump button, know I know where the line is here.
(23:02):
There's some super doomsday mcguffin that only the diabolical Empress
Georgia can help them track down and deactivate this bickering
section thirty one team has to work together to get
the job done. Honestly, it's nothing you haven't seen before,
and better lots of times, just with special effects you
could do on a laptop. Added, there's a space battle
that you can see was written to be exciting, but
(23:23):
it's so inert without the kind of memorable dance music
the old show had. It seems like all the budget
went to that guy's laptop for the effects. In fact,
this really could be any generic movie on sci fi,
or I hate to say it too be. You won't
care about any of the characters whether they live or die.
The dialogue is laugh out loud, bad. Here's a little
(23:44):
taste here. Enjoy this.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
We call it works like that and we're done. This
is chaos garage. You know you love it?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Have you let it in?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Make out with it a little? It's why SOFFI put
you here. Let's you ready?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
No, no, I'm not ready for this, at least not
more of it. Bring on the plasma blast, make out
with chaos, chaos. Did you hear that? Maybe get to
second base with chaos, my God. As a fan of violence,
I never thought i'd say this either, But the fights
go on too long and they're boring. I think the creator,
Gene Roddenberry, might be pleased that while the country's trying
(24:30):
to zapp all its diversity and civil rights achievements with
a photon torpedo, the cast of Section thirty one is
pretty diverse. But as I said when forced onto a
diversity committee at my first newspaper job, it can be
a little superficial if that's all you're focused on. The
actual substance here is missing, and what there is is
just stale. But at least they seem to be promising
(24:50):
more of it at the end. Merciful God, please no
publicists here's your pull quote. If you like section thirty one,
you'll qualify for a section eight if you remember this
one really makes me want to hear Kirk's e Plebnista
speech from the original episode. Put your hands over your
heart for this.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Oddly saying we the people that what you call ea plebnista.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Oh yeah, for the chiefs of kings, for the.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
Warriors or the ritually powerful, but for all the people,
all the people down the centuries. You have slurred the
meaning out of the words we the people, the United States,
in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice
is sure, domestic frontquility, provide for the common defense, promote
(25:41):
the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Ourselves and our posterity.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
To audain and establish this constitutional.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
The yes, bring it home. And I think that's a
good spot to end this week's runner. Or why wasn't
he at the inauguration?
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Why? Hey, did I ever tell you about the time
that I interviewed William Shatter? Yeah, only about fifty times.
Just want to make sure I love that man. I
love him so mo. I know that you like Star
Trek Discovery a lot more than I did. That's fair.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I don't know what you're gonna think of this movie.
I think even if you liked that show, there's just
not a lot to recommend this one.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My interest waned in Star Trek Discovery. That was pretty
funny STD midway through season three, I thought it lost
its way and ran out a story to tell. It
seemed like it was just just making up stuff, and
it didn't really have the same motivation that it did
in seasons one and two that I really did like.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Sometimes it seems to me like with all the spin
offs and a lot of the later movies, they're almost
intentionally trying to avoid what made the original Star Trek
so great. And I don't understand that.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Oh I do. I if you look at the original series,
to me, I think it is too slow and too
cerebral for today's audiences. You look at the movies JJ Abrams,
if you look at the TV shows in the past
ten to fifteen years, far more action that I call
it the Star Wars in effect, where they want it
(27:22):
to be more action, more pewppew, and less talk.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah, well maybe with the pewppew, but I don't agree
with you that it's slower. I think if you look
at these episodes. They pack a lot of story and
a lot of shorthand character stuff into what forty five
fifty minutes that you just don't see in the serialized
TV today. And that's why I said, you're not going
to care about any of these characters. You look at
any exchange, any conversation between characters and the old one,
(27:48):
and they reveal so much. These were good writers, the
professional sci fi writers that they had at work on this,
and these these latter day guys. I think what they
read save the Cat once and it's like, here's your script.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah. I think that argument can be made for much
of television as a whole. There's not as much care
given to character development, dialogue, or it's just storytelling.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
This seems to me like a real waste. I mean,
how could you go wrong with a spy special ops
team show set in the Star Trek universe. We know
that Kirk and Spock and whoever else on the original
show they went on secret missions pretty often, right, Imagine
having a whole movie and possible series devoted to that.
But man, did they fumble the ball or whatever is
(28:36):
used in place of a ball in the twenty third century.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, that was probably the part of the problem. In
Star Trek discovered the series without giving too much away,
it jumped around from century to century to millennium on
the show. I remember that, and.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I'll also never forgive what they did with the Guardian
of Forever from that great original series episode called Sitting
on the Edge of Forever.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
They just made it some dude. Yeah, but that's part
of the reason I would say.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
The the oh.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Let me put it like this. Part of streaming it's
good because you can get more content. The bad is
you get lazier content sometimes. Yeah, quality controls definitely an issue.
When we come back, we'll have more from Mark Bronner.
He doesn't even know this. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, Look, we have to promote your appearance tomorrow. I'd
better hurry with the news.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
The phone lines are now open. The phone lines are
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of material you want to recover? Tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (30:54):
We're just gonna stick to fun, nothing having nothing serious,
definitely no politics. Will have somebody on to talk about
a comedy charity that is raising money for people affected
by the wildfires. We're gonna talk about the and probably
argue about the Oscar nominations and the Razzie nominations, and
that right there will take up a good chunk.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yes, yes, And that's one thing I do remember about
just being on the weekends. There's so much you want
to cover and you have to start making decisions about
what you can cover, you have time to cover if
there's going to be an interview, and then you realize
there's never enough time.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
Two hours goes by really fast, fast, faster than you
would think. It's like, you know, being on the event
horizon of a black hole. You think it's two seconds,
but then you come out and everybody's aged seven years,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So tomorrow night at seven pm, Mark Roner will be hosting.
Have you given any thoughts to the name of your show?
It's called filling in for Michael Monks.
Speaker 6 (31:52):
And think of it like remember the old threes Company show,
Come in, Knock on My Door? Remember when the Ropers
got their spin off and that tanked, But they'd already
replaced him with Don Knatson, so and so those actors
were out of a job. That's how I'm thinking about
tomorrow night. This is how well I know Norman Fell
Audra Lindley, Yes exactly. Yeah, And they were both very
(32:15):
accomplished in their own right before they even had three's companies. Oh,
Norman Fell was famous for cop rolls. Yes, in fact,
he was the original sidekick to the Girl from Uncle.
Had a long and illustrious career, and then look what
happened when he thought he was big enough to go
out on his own. Actually that wasn't even his decision.
(32:37):
He was made to do that. But that's how I'm
thinking of tomorrow. It's been nice knowing everybody.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Well, I'm going to be listening in because you're a
wealth of knowledge or walking encyclopedia. I do not say
that for hyperbole. You know it's true, and I just
like hearing you on the radar. I want to hear
you more. I appreciate that and the pressure.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Something that I've realized is that since I've been doing
this news job, I've also been a show host in Seattle,
but I've become much more of a responder and a
reactor and kind of a bomb thrower.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Than I used to be.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Whereas you know, you as the host, are the initiator,
and you'll throw things to me, and you'll people don't
know that I don't usually know what you're going to
say or talk about. A lot of the times I'll
be handed a very sparse rundown, but sometimes I don't
have time to look at it because I'm racing to
prepare the news. So it's kind of funny are back
(33:32):
and forth, if you know the behind the scenes stuff
that you've spent quite a bit of time before the
show preparing, and then you just kind of drop stuff
on me and watch me react.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Intentionally, just because I don't know what you're gonna do.
You might just blow up the show.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Or get myself fired, or get the station's licensee. Well
all the above, DYEA none so far yet. But we
always have fun, and so I'm going to actually miss
having the whole crew with me there tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Well, I'll be listening. Could you come in? Actually I could,
but I wouldn't ever do that.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I mean, I need you to drive back into the
office with Twala, and you know we're going to have
a board up tomorrow, but Fush, you might as well come.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
To Okay, Well, are you going to buy food for
all of us? Absolutely not? You know what I make? Okay,
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Ignorance is bliss.
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