January 29, 2025 • 31 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at the FireAid Benefit Concert featuring some of the biggest names in music coming together to help rebuild communities ravaged by the LA wildfires; with two major concerts taking place Thursday, January 30th at the at Intuit Dome and Kia Forum as well as broadcasting live on 102.7 KIIS-FM, REAL 92.3, KOST 103.5, ALT 98.7 & 104.3 MYfm - Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Jfi mister bo Kelly were alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and we were telling you about fire Aid the
benefit concert before it was even fire Aid. We gave
you the lowdown on how names and groups would be
added to the slate. We told you the behind the
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scenes of all the different machinations which will be moving
outside of your view. But it's almost here and Fire
Aid is coming up on Thursday, This Thursday, January thirtieth,
beginning at well, it depends on the venue, but both
six and seven pm, depending on the venue. I'm talking
about the Into a Dome and the Kia Forum. The
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Into a Dome, the lineup has been pretty much solidified,
but there may be some other artists who will be
added at the last second. Billie Eilish, Gracie Abrams, Little Baby,
shout out to to Mark, Ronald Good Evening, Hello Mo,
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Olivia Rodrigo, Stevie Wonder, Sting and more.
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And that's just the Into a Dome. At the Kia Forum,
you have a lotus more set Green Day, Dave Matthews
and John Mayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Pink
and more.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And Betty.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yet let's say you can't attend in person, you can
always listen to the broadcast on the iHeartRadio app and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
As far as terrestrial radio.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It will be broadcasts on all of our southern California
music stations. Talking about KISSFM All ninety eight seven one
four point three, MYFM Real ninety two three Coast. You
can't miss it, and also you can see it online.
We will tell you about all that. There's so much
more to tell you about this concert later on. We'll
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give you this information throughout the evening. But also coming
up on tonight's show, we got to talk to you
about how Governor Gavin Newsom has tapped Magic Johnson, Casey
Wasserman and others to leave the philanthropic La Fire Recovery
initiative famous La Donut chain introducing the fire Aid donut,
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and Starbucks is back in the news. Starbucks staff has
been given a panic button for laptop lurkers who won't leave.
We told you recently how you can't loiter at Starbucks anymore.
They're not going to let you just hang out and
have your meetings and just hang out and abuse the
internet like I to do. Back in the day, you're
going to have to actually buy something, and buy something frequently.
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They're going to kick you out, and now they've implemented
another measure to make sure you don't stay. Does Starbucks
just want bad news, bad publicity? Do they want it?
It seems like they do. We'll talk about that, and
at the top of the next hour, I'll be joined
online by a very special guest, Carl McNair. He is
the older brother of the late Ronald McNair, Doctor Ronald McNair,
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who perished thirty nine years ago today aboard Challenger flight
STS fifty one. L Maybe you're not old enough to
remember the Challenger disaster. It changed the trajectory of NASA
and space exploration. It changed American history and war. And
we're going to talk to someone who has a degree
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of insight few do. Carl McNair is going to join
us on the show to talk about his younger brother,
Ronald McNair, who perished as part of the seven astronauts
who died thirty nine years years ago today.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do you remember where you were, Mark Ronner? I do, No,
I actually don't.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Where were you I was a junior in high school
and I was actually leaving my Spanish class with mister Peterson,
and mister Peterson made the announcement that the challenger blew up,
and we thought he was joking because he was a jokeer.
He would always like to play pranks on us. And
we think Space Shuttle didn't blow up. I mean, and this,
if you're not old enough to remember, this is pre internet,
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so we didn't have the flow of information that we
could just validate at a moment's notice. We didn't take
him seriously, not anyone in the class. I was walking
to my ap English class with Doc Elliott. That was
a teacher's name, Doctor Elliott, and then other people, other
students started confirming it. Then we rolled in a TV.
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You know how they used to roll in the TV
to the classroom with the av ner. Yeah, absolutely, which
took another twenty thirty minutes, and then we began watching
coverage of it because back then, yeah, CNN was around,
but there wasn't anything else other than broadcast television news
for the most part. And then we had to wait
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until we could get a TV in the classroom to
really understand the magnitude and gravity of the moment. I
remember it like it was yesterday, even though it wasn't
thirty nine years ago. Today, the Challenger disaster, so much
more coming up on Later with Mo Kelly. Keep it
right here KFI AM six forty. We are live everywhere
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on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
With Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And
now we can actually start having the conversation as we
move out of the crisis of the fire and into
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the recovery. Governor Gavin Newsom today tapped Magic Johnson, Casey
Wasserman Mark Walter to lead this philanthropic LA Fire Recovery initiative,
and it's going to be called La Rises and it's
supposed to bring together business leaders to work with city, county,
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and state officials to support rebuilding after the fires. Walter,
his foundation and the LA Dodgers Foundation are going to
provide up to one hundred million dollars to jump start fundraising.
Governor Newsom said, quote, Los Angeles will rise again, stronger,
more united, and more resilient than ever.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There's also this idea that there will be a quick
effort to rebuild rebuild swiftly, and I know everybody wants that,
and I'm going to be a broken record on this.
I think we should be realistic in our expectation. If
you've seen the devastation, if you've seen the total loss
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of infrastructure in such communities as Altadna, it's not going
to be a swift anything. And if you want to
predicate your future anger or your future a critique on
the ineffectiveness of our government leaders by how quickly this
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does not happen, then you just don't understand. And that's
why I'm going to hammer home this point. This is
not going to be a quick rebuild, if only because
it's going to take a while to first clear the debris,
make sure these spaces are safe, and then the rebuilding
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process begins. And they're different facets to the rebuilding. There's
the rebuilding of businesses, which is going to follow one track,
and that's a different track from people trying to rebuild
their lives and homes. This La Rises rebuilding effort is
not going to be about primarily getting people their houses back.
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It doesn't work that when the process is different. You're
dealing with insurance companies, you're dealing with liability, You're dealing
with different time tables as far as how people can
rebuild their lives. And I say this is someone who
saw New York in the year after nine to eleven.
I say this is someone who saw New Orleans a
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year after Katrina and five years after Katrina. We can
point all the fingers we want at civic leaders and
say they failed, or they did not keep their end
of the bargain, that they did not meet the moment,
all those typical cliche phrases. I'm telling you, in a
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best case scenario, best case scenario, this is going to
take years. It's going to take years. You're not just
rebuilding neighborhoods. You're rebuilding businesses, You're rebuilding infrastructure, you are
rebuilding lives. And that happens at different rates of speed.
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And I know we would love to be able to
drive down I don't know, Orange Grove Avenue and not
see the embers and not see the burned out places,
or drive down Pacific Coast Highway and not see the
remnants of what was Pacific Palisades. I get that, But
I remember going to New Orleans five years after Katrina,
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and you could still see the remnants of that destruction,
and you can say, well, blame that on Mayor Nagative,
whoever was mayor at the time, or Governor Landry, whoever
was governor at the time. It's if you think it's
just about politics, then you may not really understand how
much of an effort this is going to be. And
it's not going to be something which happens overnight. It's
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not something that is about just throwing as much money
as you can at it. It's going to be something
which is going to be a struggle every step of
the way, regardless of how many speeches and dollar bills
you throw at it. It's not going to be that way.
So all I can do is just temper someone's anger
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right now, because if you have the expectation that Pacific
Polisades and Altadena and these other areas are going to
look like what we thought they were or remembered them
to be two months ago, and you expect to see
that in a year, or even two years, or even
three years. Being completely honest, you're deluding yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know, I'm looking at this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
One thing that I don't seem to see anywhere within
this press they've men is how they are going to
bring back the businesses that were in place that are gone,
because it is one thing to build back some of
the properties where some of these businesses were. I don't
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see anything in here where they are going to make
it mandatory where once they build back up these properties,
that those property owners where many of these heritage businesses
in Altadena had been leasing their properties for the longest,
are going to be able to return Foxes, Steves Pets,
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you know, the Altadena Hardware Store, all these places where
these are people who may have been renting the property
or renting the property to open up a business, but
they may not actually own the property. And this is
something that it's one thing to bring business back to Altadena.
I know imagine Johnson is really good for launching businesses,
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successful businesses. But what Altadena does not need is a
Starbucks and mock theater and a movie theater and this,
that and the other. It's not about that. It is
about the businesses that were established there. Are they getting
guarantees that they will come back? This is something that
I'm looking for in a press release like this, And
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there's something else, and it's highlighted in the story. I
just want to amplify it. It makes a distinction. You
mentioned Altadena, that's La County. So what La County is
going to do to restore La County may be very
different and a different timeline than what Karen Bass is
trying to do for La City, which is inclusive of
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Pacific Palisades. And you're not going to be able to
judge Pacific Palisades against Altadena and vice versa for a
number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
One Altadna suffered far more damage. Let's tell the truth.
Pacific Palisades is under the jurisdiction of the City of
La and Mayor Karen Bass. Altadena's not. They're dealing with
La County Board of Supervisors in La County more generally.
So this is going to be uneven in a variety
of ways. And these areas within our city and county
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are not all going to come back at the same time.
And none of it is coming back anytime soon, none
of it. I don't care what anyone tells you. I
don't care about how optimistic they may sound, or they're
going to say during press conferences, we're going to let
them back in tomorrow. That stuff did not happen, Okay,
And it can't happen because there are some legitimate obstacles
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to any of that happening, and you cannot rush it.
It's not because people are dragging their feet or they're
unwilling to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Let the money flow to accommodate it, to accomplish it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, it's just a function of there's only so quickly
that you can actually clear a debris field. There's only
so quickly that you can make it where it's not
hazardous and dangerous for people to walk around. Yeah, people
walk around and has mats suits because of the gas
and toxicity of the environment. Yes, people have the right
to return, but it doesn't mean that it is safe
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for them to either live there or start the rebuilding process.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It's not going to happen quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And what bothers me is I see these unrealistic expectations
being put out there because it's almost like they know
what people want to hear, and they're giving them what
people want to hear, not telling them the truth about
what they need to hear and need to know. Because
right now, I know everyone wants to have a positive message.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You want to have a hopeful message.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You want to be able to inspire people that Altadena
is going to come all the way back, Pacific Polsages
is going to be come back.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's going to be coming back.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We're going to build it up bigger and better than
ever before. It's going to like none of this has
ever happened. And you got to step telling those lives.
I have to say that they're lives because you know
better if you know anything about how a a city
actually works and what a rebound from a tragedy and
disaster is. Like, you can't just keep telling people these
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platitudes thinking that just because that's what they want to hear,
is that's what you should be telling them, because if anything,
they're going to be even more angry because they're gonna
remember how you said on your stump that we're gonna
do this, So we're gonna do that. It's gonna take
only so long, and it's gonna better than ever before.
You make these unrealistic promises that you can't possibly can't
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possibly keep, or maybe you're thinking like, well, that's four
years from now.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't have to worry about that. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm just telling you this is not going to be
a quick turnaround and It's not going to be a
because of lack of money. No, I'm quite sure that
La Riss Group will be able to raise hundreds of
millions of dollars. That will not be the issue. The
issue is the people who are displaced. We're talking about
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personal residences, which is different than rebuilding the functionality of
a city, you know, rebuilding post offices or rebuilding strip malls.
You had the best point I think of the Night
to Waller when you talk about the businesses which were
occupying these edifices did not own the businesses, but their
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businesses are gone because the edifice is gone.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I think when I see press statements like this,
it speaks to the hope and the promise, but it
is light on their facts and reality. And that's what
is so disheartening. There are so many efforts out and
about to rebuild, whether it's having people stand in line
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three and four hours for a two hundred and fifty
dollars gift card, or the promise of rebuilding out to
Dina with this you know, fundraising effort here. And I
say again, if Magic Johnson who has the ears of
city leaders, and Casey Wasserman and Mike Mark Walter. If
they want to do something philanthropic, they could themselves. They
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could pull their power and say we're going to bring advocates,
we are going to bring attorneys, we are going to
bring individuals into the city to help.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Each and every one of you.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We're gonna put our money up to help each and
every one of you navigate this red tape to make
you hold because that is the biggest hurdle of the
citizens of Altadena. That's the biggest hurdle that they're facing.
It is not trying to carve out time in the
day to go and get supplies and to go and
get this donation or that donation. It is when you
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get back to the hotel that you're staying at right now.
It is when you're getting back to wherever Airbnb or
wherever you're at right now, what are you doing looking
at the future moving forward?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
There isn't enough of that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
A lot of town halls where a lot of aimless
questions are thrown out, not a lot of answers these individuals.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Hoo hoo.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
If you really want to put your philanthropic efforts to
good use, do that help the people by getting them
every neat thing they need to make themselves whole. Don't
come in and just say, hey, we're gonna build back
businesses that many of your businesses won't even be there anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It's Later with Mo Kelly caf I AM six forty.
We have more information to tell you about fire Aid,
which is coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
The Nick POULIOCHINNI had just walked in the studio with
a bunch of food, just trying to tease me, trying
to bring in all these pastries and just dangle them
in front of me like I trying to have a
better diet.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's trying to make it more difficult on me. Good evening, Nick,
Good evening.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Mo are you are you watching your You have a
great figure and you're incredibly but you're welcome to seetheart. But
I'm gonna say no with your hip with hop Keto.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Okay, I tried.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm not trying to eat pastries every damn day, and
you're bringing in pastries and pizza and of course, and
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Because we're going to celebrate Lunar New Year. But we'll
get to that a little bit later tonight. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I was just trying to figure out why you got
to bring in the show all the wares I do
because I want you to eat it now. No, no,
you can eat it now.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I just need to come in here so that I
can share with everybody on Instagram Nick polio'keanny this weekend
with nig So there you go.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Okay, if that's how you want to tell the story,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Anyhow, since we're talking about pastries, Randy's Donuts, and let's
say you are a Randy's Donuts fan like me, I am. Well,
put it this way. I'm a fan of the Inglewood location.
I have to be very specific, but you know, people
the world over love Randy's Donuts is iconic. They have
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a fire Aid donut, which of course is named after
the fire Aid benefit concert taking place in Inglewood on Thursday.
We've just told you about that, and we'll tell you
more about it as the night goes on. But it's
a Ray donut featuring vanilla icing, red sprinkles and a
red heart, symbolizing unity and care for those who were impacted.
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By the fire, by the fires, and the fire Aid
donut itself is available for purchase starting tomorrow and it only
costs five dollars. If you're wondering about the participating locations,
and I gotta say, Nick, and you may appreciate this.
I don't know if Tawala is a Randy's fan, but
I didn't know that there were this many locations of Randy's.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It's funny because it really has blown up, truly, because
the one that you and I have been going to
for years is the one in Inglewood that you're talking
about that's right on Manchester but not too far away,
is the one in El Segundo, right is, which is
poppin' and is very very fancy. So it's like we've
got to run the gamut of like the og with
it in Inglewood with a big old donut on top
of the big ass donut. And you know this, it's iconic.
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This is part of the skyline, even though it's way
down in Inglewood. It is part of the SoCal and
the La Skyline would But yeah, I means, so you
got else you going to know what other locations are there?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You have the downy location eight seven two one Firestone Boulevard,
Coast to Mesa two nine three zero Harbor Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So even Orange County is in on the action. Oh yes,
so there you go.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Twalla, Pasadena two thirty South Lake Avenue Way.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Oh minute, Since when is there a Randy's Oh there is, Yeah,
I'm just reading the story.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Santa Monica eight two nine Wheelchair Boulevard, Culver City, forty
one fourteen so Polta Boulevard, Elsa Gundo twenty one eighty
one Rosecrans Boulevard, Torrance. I didn't know those one in
Torrance twenty three three thirty Hawthorne Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I to see where that is. It's brand new. It's
right before you get to like when you start going
up to the PV.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I know, I'm thinking, I in my mind, I know
what the street looks like. I'm always driving down Hawthorne
when i'm down there. Yeah, they just put it up,
probably like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So yeah, that's new to me.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
U Burbek three zero zero seven North Hollywood Way, North
Hollywood forty eight oh five, Vineland Avenue, Riverside thirty five
nineteen Van Buren Boulevard, and San Diego thirty seven thirty
seven Murphy Canyon Road. So basically, wherever you can find
Randy's Donuts, you will probably be able to get a
fire aid donut. And if you didn't know, as we
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were talking with Nick Poliochini, the flagship Inglewood location opened
in nineteen fifty two, and that's the location for me,
that's the reference point for me. And it has expanded
all across Los Angeles and it's now in Orange County,
the Inland Empire, and the San Diego area. Two more
locations will soon open in fres Tucky, according to the
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randy Store locator Fresnooks.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Wait, I'm sorry, I was like fres Tucky, Okay, not
to be confused with fon Tucky, which is a little closer.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, okay, just making sure. Randy's has also moved out
of state. They have four shops in Las Vegas and
another four in the Feetix metropolitan area. The chain has
also opened up eight locations in South Korea. I did
not see any when I was in South Korea, but
of course I was not looking for a bunch of
seven elevens, a bunch of seven elevens, But I didn't
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see any Randy's Donuts. They're two in Saudi Arabia and
eleven in the Philippines, and they're going to also open
a shop in Mexico City. Back in November, they announced
plans to open fifty stores across Japan.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Donuts I guess do well in Japan.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Fifty and of course, all for the benefit of those
who've been impacted by the fires.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And it's a part of fire Aid.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Go get your fire Aid donut to help support them.
And we'll tell you more about fire Aid when we
come back. It's Later with Mo Kelly. And also Starbucks.
They're back in the news, and probably not for good reasons.
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And Starbucks is I wonder who's running the marketing department.
I wonder who's in charge of publicity, because it seems
like they keep stepping in it voluntarily most of the
last time some good news came out about Starbucks. And
it's not like I have a dog in the fight.
I don't even drink coffee. I don't even go to Starbucks.
I have no reason to go there, But Starbucks is
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back in the news. They're going to add panic buttons
in stores to kick out what are being termed as
laptop lurkers and loiterers. We told you a couple of
weeks ago that there was a new set of store
rules where you can't just lounge around Starbucks anymore. You
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have to buy something or get out. The next obvious
question is, well, if you don't buy anything and you're
not willing to get out, what is Starbucks going to do?
What we know now, No, these are actual buttons which
have been installed at least in a handful of stores
for what is deemed as a trial period to see
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if they help keep the location safe and comfortable for
people who are actually spending money. Here's my question, and
Starbucks is not made clear how the buttons will work.
They're not saying whether it will place a call to
a law enforcement like a panic button would be at
a bank. They're not exactly saying whether it means that
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some other security element. I don't know if you can
have security at Starbucks now like you do in other places,
whether a security person will come over it and nudge
you on the shoulders, like hey, times up, you gotta leave.
But if they don't want to escalate a situation, it
probably would have been better to just leave well enough alone.
The moment someone comes over and taps me, or taps you,
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or taps someone else on the shoulder and says, and
most likely is going to erraish you in front of
other people, excuse me, mister O'Kelly. You're gonna have to
leave now, or you're gonna have to purchase something or leave.
You're going to have another incident, just like you did
years ago when those African American gentlemen were put out
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of Starbucks for seemingly pretty much the exact same damn
thing they said then that they were waiting on someone
for a meeting.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is there going to be a clock?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Is it going to be like what they used to
do when when you park your car they would chalk
your tire and come back around in an hour, And
if you haven't moved your car or or purchased something,
then they're going to hit the panic button. And usually
panic button means escalation, means that you're going to have
You're gonna go from not having an incident to having
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an incident, because if you feel that you need to
push a button as opposed to excuse me, mister Sharp,
is there anything that you would like to purchase? I
see that you've been here a while. I was wondering
were you ready to make your order? And if mister
Sharp would say no, I'm just here, you know, using
the Wi Fi. I got this paper, got to write
for class, then you can tell that person sorry, we
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do not have a loitering you know, we're not allowed
to loiter here.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
We need you to get your black ass out now,
please leave. So it's problems you already know.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I know this button is going to be abused and
it is only going to be used to target specific
individuals who are causing a panic.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean calling a panic button alone.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
That's that's like, that's a huge lead.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's not like it they could have.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
They should have named it like the assistance button or
the coal button like they have on an airplane. Yes,
and then you have the flight attendant to come over
and can I help you?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It will be just like the incident that you referred
to where the individuals walked in. They walked in and
sat down and that Starbucks manager called the police immediately.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
She panicked and did she said this.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I panicked when they walked in because I didn't know
what they were there for.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I was worried. Well, to be fair, they had been
up to something.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
To be fair, they could have been there to rob,
rape and kill and steal in front of everyone else.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You just never know.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Everyone there with their computer bags and they're uh sitting
down quietly waiting for a meeting, yes, like everyone else
in there. But no, this panic button is going to
be used for anyone. And I get it. Look, I win.
I got some food today from an establishment that allows
individuals to just kind of chill. And there was someone
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in there that had all of his belongings in the
restaurant with him. God bless, I don't know what this individual.
He was seemingly unhoused. With the amount of stuff that
he had with him and the cart that he had
outside waiting to move it around. He had the look
of the unhoused.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, this is so easy. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but this is so easy.
You don't need to go to these lengths. You can
make it very simple. You can put up a sign
saying hey, well, like you're doing McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know, you're allowed to like sit in and use
the boosts for like an hour.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Or something, and after that, if you're not gonna make
a purchase, they'll ask you to leave.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's real simple.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So the rules are clear to everyone, and it's inarguable
you can tell by the tape of the security who
walks in where, and if you enforce it uniformly, it
shouldn't be a problem. But if you go to leave
it up to barista su or Johnny or Chad to
make a decision about who gets booted out and who doesn't.
And that's the problem. When you get to allow some
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people to stay. And if you're a regular at Starbucks,
you know who the regulars are. Who's sitting there for
hours and they buy one cup of coffee for four
frickid hours, and then you want to tell this other
person to leave because they didn't buy a cup of
coffee over forty five minutes. That's how you get in
a problem. And you know and you're installing something. So
this is not a secret. Everybody knows you're doing this.
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Everybody knows what Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Is up to.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
If you want to ruin your brand publicly, knock yourself out.
I'm not going to get in the way of it.
I don't even shop at Starbucks, so do your worst Starbucks.
I'm just saying this is a bad look, and enjoy
the bad look. It is a bad look overall.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I just think that this is going to play out
across businesses across the gamut.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't think this begins and ends with Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I think every business is going to start saying we
need a panic button as in and out. We need
a panic button at fat Burger's and Randy's Donuts and
everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
This is where I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
We got to go to break the negative pushback on
this and the negative publicity because of this, because they've
already had a really bad incident which scarred their brand
years ago. This will tell every other business don't do this,
don't go down this path.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You're you're forgetting the time that we're living in. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm just saying I think they value money over anything,
and you get We'll see, We'll.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
See all these businesses that are cutting out DEI practices,
that don't care about the bad look.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We shall see.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But I think that if Starbucks takes it on the chin,
just hard enough people will stay away from it. If
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Jfi mister bo Kelly were alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app and we were telling you about fire Aid the
benefit concert before it was even fire Aid. We gave
you the lowdown on how names and groups would be
added to the slate. We told you the behind the
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scenes of all the different machinations which will be moving
outside of your view. But it's almost here and Fire
Aid is coming up on Thursday, This Thursday, January thirtieth,
beginning at well, it depends on the venue, but both
six and seven pm, depending on the venue. I'm talking
about the Into a Dome and the Kia Forum. The
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Into a Dome, the lineup has been pretty much solidified,
but there may be some other artists who will be
added at the last second. Billie Eilish, Gracie Abrams, Little Baby,
shout out to to Mark, Ronald Good Evening, Hello Mo,
Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Olivia Rodrigo, Stevie Wonder, Sting and more.
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And that's just the Into a Dome. At the Kia Forum,
you have a lotus more set Green Day, Dave Matthews
and John Mayer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, No Doubt, Pink
and more.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And Betty.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yet let's say you can't attend in person, you can
always listen to the broadcast on the iHeartRadio app and.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
As far as terrestrial radio.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It will be broadcasts on all of our southern California
music stations. Talking about KISSFM All ninety eight seven one
four point three, MYFM Real ninety two three Coast. You
can't miss it, and also you can see it online.
We will tell you about all that. There's so much
more to tell you about this concert later on. We'll
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give you this information throughout the evening. But also coming
up on tonight's show, we got to talk to you
about how Governor Gavin Newsom has tapped Magic Johnson, Casey
Wasserman and others to leave the philanthropic La Fire Recovery
initiative famous La Donut chain introducing the fire Aid donut,
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and Starbucks is back in the news. Starbucks staff has
been given a panic button for laptop lurkers who won't leave.
We told you recently how you can't loiter at Starbucks anymore.
They're not going to let you just hang out and
have your meetings and just hang out and abuse the
internet like I to do. Back in the day, you're
going to have to actually buy something, and buy something frequently.
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They're going to kick you out, and now they've implemented
another measure to make sure you don't stay. Does Starbucks
just want bad news, bad publicity? Do they want it?
It seems like they do. We'll talk about that, and
at the top of the next hour, I'll be joined
online by a very special guest, Carl McNair. He is
the older brother of the late Ronald McNair, Doctor Ronald McNair,
(03:27):
who perished thirty nine years ago today aboard Challenger flight
STS fifty one. L Maybe you're not old enough to
remember the Challenger disaster. It changed the trajectory of NASA
and space exploration. It changed American history and war. And
we're going to talk to someone who has a degree
(03:48):
of insight few do. Carl McNair is going to join
us on the show to talk about his younger brother,
Ronald McNair, who perished as part of the seven astronauts
who died thirty nine years years ago today.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Do you remember where you were, Mark Ronner? I do, No,
I actually don't.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Where were you I was a junior in high school
and I was actually leaving my Spanish class with mister Peterson,
and mister Peterson made the announcement that the challenger blew up,
and we thought he was joking because he was a jokeer.
He would always like to play pranks on us. And
we think Space Shuttle didn't blow up. I mean, and this,
if you're not old enough to remember, this is pre internet,
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so we didn't have the flow of information that we
could just validate at a moment's notice. We didn't take
him seriously, not anyone in the class. I was walking
to my ap English class with Doc Elliott. That was
a teacher's name, Doctor Elliott, and then other people, other
students started confirming it. Then we rolled in a TV.
(04:49):
You know how they used to roll in the TV
to the classroom with the av ner. Yeah, absolutely, which
took another twenty thirty minutes, and then we began watching
coverage of it because back then, yeah, CNN was around,
but there wasn't anything else other than broadcast television news
for the most part. And then we had to wait
(05:09):
until we could get a TV in the classroom to
really understand the magnitude and gravity of the moment. I
remember it like it was yesterday, even though it wasn't
thirty nine years ago. Today, the Challenger disaster, so much
more coming up on Later with Mo Kelly. Keep it
right here KFI AM six forty. We are live everywhere
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Speaker 1 (05:39):
With Kelly, We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And
now we can actually start having the conversation as we
move out of the crisis of the fire and into
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the recovery. Governor Gavin Newsom today tapped Magic Johnson, Casey
Wasserman Mark Walter to lead this philanthropic LA Fire Recovery initiative,
and it's going to be called La Rises and it's
supposed to bring together business leaders to work with city, county,
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and state officials to support rebuilding after the fires. Walter,
his foundation and the LA Dodgers Foundation are going to
provide up to one hundred million dollars to jump start fundraising.
Governor Newsom said, quote, Los Angeles will rise again, stronger,
more united, and more resilient than ever.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
There's also this idea that there will be a quick
effort to rebuild rebuild swiftly, and I know everybody wants that,
and I'm going to be a broken record on this.
I think we should be realistic in our expectation. If
you've seen the devastation, if you've seen the total loss
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of infrastructure in such communities as Altadna, it's not going
to be a swift anything. And if you want to
predicate your future anger or your future a critique on
the ineffectiveness of our government leaders by how quickly this
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does not happen, then you just don't understand. And that's
why I'm going to hammer home this point. This is
not going to be a quick rebuild, if only because
it's going to take a while to first clear the debris,
make sure these spaces are safe, and then the rebuilding
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process begins. And they're different facets to the rebuilding. There's
the rebuilding of businesses, which is going to follow one track,
and that's a different track from people trying to rebuild
their lives and homes. This La Rises rebuilding effort is
not going to be about primarily getting people their houses back.
(08:17):
It doesn't work that when the process is different. You're
dealing with insurance companies, you're dealing with liability, You're dealing
with different time tables as far as how people can
rebuild their lives. And I say this is someone who
saw New York in the year after nine to eleven.
I say this is someone who saw New Orleans a
(08:39):
year after Katrina and five years after Katrina. We can
point all the fingers we want at civic leaders and
say they failed, or they did not keep their end
of the bargain, that they did not meet the moment,
all those typical cliche phrases. I'm telling you, in a
(09:00):
best case scenario, best case scenario, this is going to
take years. It's going to take years. You're not just
rebuilding neighborhoods. You're rebuilding businesses, You're rebuilding infrastructure, you are
rebuilding lives. And that happens at different rates of speed.
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And I know we would love to be able to
drive down I don't know, Orange Grove Avenue and not
see the embers and not see the burned out places,
or drive down Pacific Coast Highway and not see the
remnants of what was Pacific Palisades. I get that, But
I remember going to New Orleans five years after Katrina,
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and you could still see the remnants of that destruction,
and you can say, well, blame that on Mayor Nagative,
whoever was mayor at the time, or Governor Landry, whoever
was governor at the time. It's if you think it's
just about politics, then you may not really understand how
much of an effort this is going to be. And
it's not going to be something which happens overnight. It's
(10:08):
not something that is about just throwing as much money
as you can at it. It's going to be something
which is going to be a struggle every step of
the way, regardless of how many speeches and dollar bills
you throw at it. It's not going to be that way.
So all I can do is just temper someone's anger
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right now, because if you have the expectation that Pacific
Polisades and Altadena and these other areas are going to
look like what we thought they were or remembered them
to be two months ago, and you expect to see
that in a year, or even two years, or even
three years. Being completely honest, you're deluding yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know, I'm looking at this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
One thing that I don't seem to see anywhere within
this press they've men is how they are going to
bring back the businesses that were in place that are gone,
because it is one thing to build back some of
the properties where some of these businesses were. I don't
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see anything in here where they are going to make
it mandatory where once they build back up these properties,
that those property owners where many of these heritage businesses
in Altadena had been leasing their properties for the longest,
are going to be able to return Foxes, Steves Pets,
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you know, the Altadena Hardware Store, all these places where
these are people who may have been renting the property
or renting the property to open up a business, but
they may not actually own the property. And this is
something that it's one thing to bring business back to Altadena.
I know imagine Johnson is really good for launching businesses,
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successful businesses. But what Altadena does not need is a
Starbucks and mock theater and a movie theater and this,
that and the other. It's not about that. It is
about the businesses that were established there. Are they getting
guarantees that they will come back? This is something that
I'm looking for in a press release like this, And
(12:23):
there's something else, and it's highlighted in the story. I
just want to amplify it. It makes a distinction. You
mentioned Altadena, that's La County. So what La County is
going to do to restore La County may be very
different and a different timeline than what Karen Bass is
trying to do for La City, which is inclusive of
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Pacific Palisades. And you're not going to be able to
judge Pacific Palisades against Altadena and vice versa for a
number of reasons.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
One Altadna suffered far more damage. Let's tell the truth.
Pacific Palisades is under the jurisdiction of the City of
La and Mayor Karen Bass. Altadena's not. They're dealing with
La County Board of Supervisors in La County more generally.
So this is going to be uneven in a variety
of ways. And these areas within our city and county
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are not all going to come back at the same time.
And none of it is coming back anytime soon, none
of it. I don't care what anyone tells you. I
don't care about how optimistic they may sound, or they're
going to say during press conferences, we're going to let
them back in tomorrow. That stuff did not happen, Okay,
And it can't happen because there are some legitimate obstacles
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to any of that happening, and you cannot rush it.
It's not because people are dragging their feet or they're
unwilling to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Let the money flow to accommodate it, to accomplish it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, it's just a function of there's only so quickly
that you can actually clear a debris field. There's only
so quickly that you can make it where it's not
hazardous and dangerous for people to walk around. Yeah, people
walk around and has mats suits because of the gas
and toxicity of the environment. Yes, people have the right
to return, but it doesn't mean that it is safe
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for them to either live there or start the rebuilding process.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It's not going to happen quickly.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And what bothers me is I see these unrealistic expectations
being put out there because it's almost like they know
what people want to hear, and they're giving them what
people want to hear, not telling them the truth about
what they need to hear and need to know. Because
right now, I know everyone wants to have a positive message.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You want to have a hopeful message.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
You want to be able to inspire people that Altadena
is going to come all the way back, Pacific Polsages
is going to be come back.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's going to be coming back.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
We're going to build it up bigger and better than
ever before. It's going to like none of this has
ever happened. And you got to step telling those lives.
I have to say that they're lives because you know
better if you know anything about how a a city
actually works and what a rebound from a tragedy and
disaster is. Like, you can't just keep telling people these
(15:08):
platitudes thinking that just because that's what they want to hear,
is that's what you should be telling them, because if anything,
they're going to be even more angry because they're gonna
remember how you said on your stump that we're gonna
do this, So we're gonna do that. It's gonna take
only so long, and it's gonna better than ever before.
You make these unrealistic promises that you can't possibly can't
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possibly keep, or maybe you're thinking like, well, that's four
years from now.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I don't have to worry about that. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm just telling you this is not going to be
a quick turnaround and It's not going to be a
because of lack of money. No, I'm quite sure that
La Riss Group will be able to raise hundreds of
millions of dollars. That will not be the issue. The
issue is the people who are displaced. We're talking about
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personal residences, which is different than rebuilding the functionality of
a city, you know, rebuilding post offices or rebuilding strip malls.
You had the best point I think of the Night
to Waller when you talk about the businesses which were
occupying these edifices did not own the businesses, but their
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businesses are gone because the edifice is gone.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Yeah, I think when I see press statements like this,
it speaks to the hope and the promise, but it
is light on their facts and reality. And that's what
is so disheartening. There are so many efforts out and
about to rebuild, whether it's having people stand in line
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three and four hours for a two hundred and fifty
dollars gift card, or the promise of rebuilding out to
Dina with this you know, fundraising effort here. And I
say again, if Magic Johnson who has the ears of
city leaders, and Casey Wasserman and Mike Mark Walter. If
they want to do something philanthropic, they could themselves. They
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could pull their power and say we're going to bring advocates,
we are going to bring attorneys, we are going to
bring individuals into the city to help.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Each and every one of you.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
We're gonna put our money up to help each and
every one of you navigate this red tape to make
you hold because that is the biggest hurdle of the
citizens of Altadena. That's the biggest hurdle that they're facing.
It is not trying to carve out time in the
day to go and get supplies and to go and
get this donation or that donation. It is when you
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get back to the hotel that you're staying at right now.
It is when you're getting back to wherever Airbnb or
wherever you're at right now, what are you doing looking
at the future moving forward?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
There isn't enough of that.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
A lot of town halls where a lot of aimless
questions are thrown out, not a lot of answers these individuals.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Hoo hoo.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
If you really want to put your philanthropic efforts to
good use, do that help the people by getting them
every neat thing they need to make themselves whole. Don't
come in and just say, hey, we're gonna build back
businesses that many of your businesses won't even be there anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Don't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
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We have more information to tell you about fire Aid,
which is coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
The Nick POULIOCHINNI had just walked in the studio with
a bunch of food, just trying to tease me, trying
to bring in all these pastries and just dangle them
in front of me like I trying to have a
better diet.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's trying to make it more difficult on me. Good evening, Nick,
Good evening.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Mo are you are you watching your You have a
great figure and you're incredibly but you're welcome to seetheart. But
I'm gonna say no with your hip with hop Keto.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Okay, I tried.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'm not trying to eat pastries every damn day, and
you're bringing in pastries and pizza and of course, and
you know.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Because we're going to celebrate Lunar New Year. But we'll
get to that a little bit later tonight. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
I was just trying to figure out why you got
to bring in the show all the wares I do
because I want you to eat it now. No, no,
you can eat it now.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
I just need to come in here so that I
can share with everybody on Instagram Nick polio'keanny this weekend
with nig So there you go.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Okay, if that's how you want to tell the story,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Anyhow, since we're talking about pastries, Randy's Donuts, and let's
say you are a Randy's Donuts fan like me, I am. Well,
put it this way. I'm a fan of the Inglewood location.
I have to be very specific, but you know, people
the world over love Randy's Donuts is iconic. They have
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a fire Aid donut, which of course is named after
the fire Aid benefit concert taking place in Inglewood on Thursday.
We've just told you about that, and we'll tell you
more about it as the night goes on. But it's
a Ray donut featuring vanilla icing, red sprinkles and a
red heart, symbolizing unity and care for those who were impacted.
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By the fire, by the fires, and the fire Aid
donut itself is available for purchase starting tomorrow and it only
costs five dollars. If you're wondering about the participating locations,
and I gotta say, Nick, and you may appreciate this.
I don't know if Tawala is a Randy's fan, but
I didn't know that there were this many locations of Randy's.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
It's funny because it really has blown up, truly, because
the one that you and I have been going to
for years is the one in Inglewood that you're talking
about that's right on Manchester but not too far away,
is the one in El Segundo, right is, which is
poppin' and is very very fancy. So it's like we've
got to run the gamut of like the og with
it in Inglewood with a big old donut on top
of the big ass donut. And you know this, it's iconic.
(20:52):
This is part of the skyline, even though it's way
down in Inglewood. It is part of the SoCal and
the La Skyline would But yeah, I means, so you
got else you going to know what other locations are there?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You have the downy location eight seven two one Firestone Boulevard,
Coast to Mesa two nine three zero Harbor Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
So even Orange County is in on the action. Oh yes,
so there you go.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Twalla, Pasadena two thirty South Lake Avenue Way.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Oh minute, Since when is there a Randy's Oh there is, Yeah,
I'm just reading the story.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Santa Monica eight two nine Wheelchair Boulevard, Culver City, forty
one fourteen so Polta Boulevard, Elsa Gundo twenty one eighty
one Rosecrans Boulevard, Torrance. I didn't know those one in
Torrance twenty three three thirty Hawthorne Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I to see where that is. It's brand new. It's
right before you get to like when you start going
up to the PV.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I know, I'm thinking, I in my mind, I know
what the street looks like. I'm always driving down Hawthorne
when i'm down there. Yeah, they just put it up,
probably like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So yeah, that's new to me.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
U Burbek three zero zero seven North Hollywood Way, North
Hollywood forty eight oh five, Vineland Avenue, Riverside thirty five
nineteen Van Buren Boulevard, and San Diego thirty seven thirty
seven Murphy Canyon Road. So basically, wherever you can find
Randy's Donuts, you will probably be able to get a
fire aid donut. And if you didn't know, as we
(22:20):
were talking with Nick Poliochini, the flagship Inglewood location opened
in nineteen fifty two, and that's the location for me,
that's the reference point for me. And it has expanded
all across Los Angeles and it's now in Orange County,
the Inland Empire, and the San Diego area. Two more
locations will soon open in fres Tucky, according to the
(22:43):
randy Store locator Fresnooks.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Wait, I'm sorry, I was like fres Tucky, Okay, not
to be confused with fon Tucky, which is a little closer.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yes, okay, just making sure. Randy's has also moved out
of state. They have four shops in Las Vegas and
another four in the Feetix metropolitan area. The chain has
also opened up eight locations in South Korea. I did
not see any when I was in South Korea, but
of course I was not looking for a bunch of
seven elevens, a bunch of seven elevens, But I didn't
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see any Randy's Donuts. They're two in Saudi Arabia and
eleven in the Philippines, and they're going to also open
a shop in Mexico City. Back in November, they announced
plans to open fifty stores across Japan.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Donuts I guess do well in Japan.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Fifty and of course, all for the benefit of those
who've been impacted by the fires.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And it's a part of fire Aid.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Go get your fire Aid donut to help support them.
And we'll tell you more about fire Aid when we
come back. It's Later with Mo Kelly. And also Starbucks.
They're back in the news, and probably not for good reasons.
We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And Starbucks is I wonder who's running the marketing department.
I wonder who's in charge of publicity, because it seems
like they keep stepping in it voluntarily most of the
last time some good news came out about Starbucks. And
it's not like I have a dog in the fight.
I don't even drink coffee. I don't even go to Starbucks.
I have no reason to go there, But Starbucks is
(24:26):
back in the news. They're going to add panic buttons
in stores to kick out what are being termed as
laptop lurkers and loiterers. We told you a couple of
weeks ago that there was a new set of store
rules where you can't just lounge around Starbucks anymore. You
(24:48):
have to buy something or get out. The next obvious
question is, well, if you don't buy anything and you're
not willing to get out, what is Starbucks going to do?
What we know now, No, these are actual buttons which
have been installed at least in a handful of stores
for what is deemed as a trial period to see
(25:09):
if they help keep the location safe and comfortable for
people who are actually spending money. Here's my question, and
Starbucks is not made clear how the buttons will work.
They're not saying whether it will place a call to
a law enforcement like a panic button would be at
a bank. They're not exactly saying whether it means that
(25:31):
some other security element. I don't know if you can
have security at Starbucks now like you do in other places,
whether a security person will come over it and nudge
you on the shoulders, like hey, times up, you gotta leave.
But if they don't want to escalate a situation, it
probably would have been better to just leave well enough alone.
The moment someone comes over and taps me, or taps you,
(25:55):
or taps someone else on the shoulder and says, and
most likely is going to erraish you in front of
other people, excuse me, mister O'Kelly. You're gonna have to
leave now, or you're gonna have to purchase something or leave.
You're going to have another incident, just like you did
years ago when those African American gentlemen were put out
(26:16):
of Starbucks for seemingly pretty much the exact same damn
thing they said then that they were waiting on someone
for a meeting.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is there going to be a clock?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Is it going to be like what they used to
do when when you park your car they would chalk
your tire and come back around in an hour, And
if you haven't moved your car or or purchased something,
then they're going to hit the panic button. And usually
panic button means escalation, means that you're going to have
You're gonna go from not having an incident to having
(26:46):
an incident, because if you feel that you need to
push a button as opposed to excuse me, mister Sharp,
is there anything that you would like to purchase? I
see that you've been here a while. I was wondering
were you ready to make your order? And if mister
Sharp would say no, I'm just here, you know, using
the Wi Fi. I got this paper, got to write
for class, then you can tell that person sorry, we
(27:10):
do not have a loitering you know, we're not allowed
to loiter here.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
We need you to get your black ass out now,
please leave. So it's problems you already know.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
I know this button is going to be abused and
it is only going to be used to target specific
individuals who are causing a panic.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean calling a panic button alone.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
That's that's like, that's a huge lead.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It's not like it they could have.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
They should have named it like the assistance button or
the coal button like they have on an airplane. Yes,
and then you have the flight attendant to come over
and can I help you?
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It will be just like the incident that you referred
to where the individuals walked in. They walked in and
sat down and that Starbucks manager called the police immediately.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
She panicked and did she said this.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I panicked when they walked in because I didn't know
what they were there for.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I was worried. Well, to be fair, they had been
up to something.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
To be fair, they could have been there to rob,
rape and kill and steal in front of everyone else.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You just never know.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Everyone there with their computer bags and they're uh sitting
down quietly waiting for a meeting, yes, like everyone else
in there. But no, this panic button is going to
be used for anyone. And I get it. Look, I win.
I got some food today from an establishment that allows
individuals to just kind of chill. And there was someone
(28:41):
in there that had all of his belongings in the
restaurant with him. God bless, I don't know what this individual.
He was seemingly unhoused. With the amount of stuff that
he had with him and the cart that he had
outside waiting to move it around. He had the look
of the unhoused.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Okay, this is so easy. I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but this is so easy.
You don't need to go to these lengths. You can
make it very simple. You can put up a sign
saying hey, well, like you're doing McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know, you're allowed to like sit in and use
the boosts for like an hour.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Or something, and after that, if you're not gonna make
a purchase, they'll ask you to leave.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It's real simple.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
So the rules are clear to everyone, and it's inarguable
you can tell by the tape of the security who
walks in where, and if you enforce it uniformly, it
shouldn't be a problem. But if you go to leave
it up to barista su or Johnny or Chad to
make a decision about who gets booted out and who doesn't.
And that's the problem. When you get to allow some
(29:45):
people to stay. And if you're a regular at Starbucks,
you know who the regulars are. Who's sitting there for
hours and they buy one cup of coffee for four
frickid hours, and then you want to tell this other
person to leave because they didn't buy a cup of
coffee over forty five minutes. That's how you get in
a problem. And you know and you're installing something. So
this is not a secret. Everybody knows you're doing this.
(30:07):
Everybody knows what Starbucks.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Is up to.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
If you want to ruin your brand publicly, knock yourself out.
I'm not going to get in the way of it.
I don't even shop at Starbucks, so do your worst Starbucks.
I'm just saying this is a bad look, and enjoy
the bad look. It is a bad look overall.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I just think that this is going to play out
across businesses across the gamut.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I don't think this begins and ends with Starbucks.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I think every business is going to start saying we
need a panic button as in and out. We need
a panic button at fat Burger's and Randy's Donuts and
everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
This is where I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
We got to go to break the negative pushback on
this and the negative publicity because of this, because they've
already had a really bad incident which scarred their brand
years ago. This will tell every other business don't do this,
don't go down this path.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
You're you're forgetting the time that we're living in. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm just saying I think they value money over anything,
and you get We'll see, We'll.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
See all these businesses that are cutting out DEI practices,
that don't care about the bad look.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
We shall see.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But I think that if Starbucks takes it on the chin,
just hard enough people will stay away from it. If
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