February 7, 2025 • 33 mins
ICYMI: Hour One of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – A look at UCLA’s multi-billion dollar wildfire loss estimates, thoughts on former ‘Santa Anita’ publicist Mike Willman’s suit against the Racetrack over claims that his firing came about as a result of him “refusing to lie’ about horse deaths” AND the magnitude of the trade that brought Luka Dončić to the Los Angeles Lakers - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's raining, it's pouring. The old man is snoring. Who
the hell made up that nursery rhyme thing? Many many
eons ago? It's later with mo Kelly k if I
am sick forty we live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's raining, it's pouring. And who made that up?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Someone who works in a nursing home. Clearly okay, because
it never made sense to me.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I know. They just need things to rhyme, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Jingle bells, batman smells, Robin laden Egg, batmobile lost its.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Wheel, and Joker got away? Who makes this stuff up? Children? Man?
That one in a long time. I remember the first
time I heard that.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I think it was maybe in third grade, long before
you were born, Stefan, and I thought, oh, that's so witty.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's clever tingo bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg,
batmobile lost its wheel, and everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What I'm talking about. Everyone heard it, okay, and Joker
got away. It's raining, it's pouring, it's raining everywhere, And
where was this rain three weeks ago? And it would
have been nice if we had this rain three weeks ago,
because the fires obviously would have done far less damage,
and with far less damage, there's far less concern about
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impending mud slides or debris flow. But now I think
we're gonna have to honestly and seriously consider the possibility
of there being these mud slides and debris flows, if
only because we're going to get a lot of rain,
or at least from what Mark Ronner was tellingby earlier.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ah, well, there's the pause that refreshes.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Why do you always got to make it sensual? But
what was dirty about that? There's always an exhale. You're
always the one who makes things dirty. I'm the news man,
I'm neutral.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No one's going to acknowledge that lie. And we're off.
How much rain are we getting thereabouts?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, it's going to rain through probably tomorrow afternoon and
that should be the end of it. Then we got
sun for the weekend. Does that satisfy you, mo?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It does.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But there are a couple of other things I need
to complain about real quick. Well, let it all out.
I remember, and I said, you know, it's raining, it's pouring.
The old man is snoring things of our youth. When
I was a kid growing up, and it was a
very very long time ago, I'm surprised you can remember
back then. No, I can, but I need help to
remember times. I need, you know, some sort of mental
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triggers to remind me of what it was like in
the nineteen seventies. But back in the nineteen seventies, we
had this thing that we called heavy rain. Now they
call it atmospheric rivers, like it's some cataclysmic event.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, it's just heavy rain.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, that sounds like something that Irish people in Sparkly
Spandex would be dancing too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm not interested in atmospheric rivers. That is a very
oddly specific reference. Yeah, it's not like a river dance
type thing. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, Yeah, we need Michael Flatley delivering all the news
on atmospheric rivers.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When you say atmospheric rivers, I'm thinking like there is.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
A wall of water flowing horizontally above my head.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, climate change doesn't work quite that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Fast atmospheric rivers. No heavy rain would be sufficient. And
in addition to the heavy rain, we we now have
a health advisory from the La County Department of Public Health.
Remember how I would tell you, and it was me,
There's no one else I would tell you whenever there
was a health advisory relating to the beaches, and I said,
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this is really ridiculous. They say one hundred yards up
and one hundred yards down, if you're from such and
such location, that's where it's dangerous. Why don't you just
say the whole fricking beach. Because dirty water, fecal water,
is going to go wherever it wants. Why are you
trying to limit it as far as where it supposedly
is going to be. Somebody has been listening to this
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show from the La County Department of Public Health.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
With rainstorms affecting southern California this week, the Los Angeles
County Department of Public Health is advising everyone to avoid
all water contact on local beaches. Didn't specify this beach,
not that beach, not this water tower, not this life
guard station. They said everyone everywhere, no contact. Do not
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go into water, do not try to uh sunbathe next
to the water, don't get anywhere near the water.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
They have been listening to this show.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, they'll they'll know that, We'll know that they've taken
you at your word when they adopt mister Hanky is
their mascot. Stephan won't get that reference. He's not trying
to help. Stephan doesn't know mister Hankey, the Christmas poof
from South Park.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, I know that. There we go. Well you didn't
acknowledge it. Well, he's always checked out these days. I'm working.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So we can now count as a notch on our belt.
La Metro we know they listen. And now the La
County Department of Public Health, we know that they listen.
They're coming around very slowly. Pretty soon they'll put out
a poop advisory. When they do that, I know that
they're all the way into the show.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, they'd have to call it something a little bit more,
no more bureaucratic, no, no go to be poop tied,
a number two advisory, no poop.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Tides, or if they call it a number two advisory,
who's that for? Who earned that? It was like a
double A double tie is a number two advisors? It
was a number two. It was a deuce. Okayn d
thank you for that. There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're going straight to the bottom just as quickly as
we can. But on the rest of the show tonight,
we got to tell you about to be serious La
County wildfire losses. They are now starting to quantify how
much damage all of this rebuilding effort is going to cost,
and U C. L A has waited with some of
the preliminary estimates. We're going to go to Santa Anita
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and talk about an emerging lawsuit there. Kind of told
you about that as well as far as where the
horse racing industry was going, and we have more evidence
to that. And the Lakers are playing right now. If
you're wondering, well, if Luka Doncic, the new superstar for
the team, if he's gonna play tonight, is he playing?
We'll tell you about that as well. That's it's just
the first hour. It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM
(07:03):
six forty. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When I was listening to Mark Ronner during the news
break and he was talking about how the former interpreter
for Sho Hal Tani was sentenced today and he'll have
to go to club fed for almost five years.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, thanks for ruining the surprise for everybody that was
coming into bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh I'm sorry. Well, his ass is going to jail
shut you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But my point is this, and I was thinking about that,
and he stole about fifteen million dollars seventeen except wait
that we supposedly know of seventeen million, right, fewer than
five years now. If I go out and try to
rob a Wells Fargo bank with just a note, just
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a note, I'm getting fifteen to life in state prison.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm still taking your side on that. Wells Farco's kind
of a I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Any bank I had to meet a call about my name,
I'll just free, you know, just and at most I'm
getting what, let's say, ten thousand dollars. Okay, there's not
a massive haul you're going to get from any bank location.
Next time, I should say, kiddies, pay attention if you
want to steal steal fifteen million from your rich friend
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and you only go to club fed for five years
at most.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I think that's one of the main lessons from the
last several years is if you're going to do crimes,
go big.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I always say make sure it's federal. You want
to end up in a federal facility.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Not that that they're all easy, but you definitely want
to end up in a federal one as opposed to
a state penitentiary.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I'm not going to get all specific because I just
don't need the headache. But think of the small things
that ended people's public lives just a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Go big, go big.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well that life advice out of the way, let's talk
about the La County wildfires. Now, we know that it
was going to cost billions of dollars to make these
communities whole. When I say communities, i'm talking about Pacific Palisades.
I'm talking about Altadena and various enclaves in between. But
as far as La County is concerned, which means it
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does not include Pacific Palisades because Palisades are considered La City.
I'm just talking now, right now about La County. The
economic losses from the fires that we all saw that
Twalla and me and Mark and Stephan were reporting on.
The economic losses will range and it's a huge range,
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between ninety five and one hundred and sixty four billion.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Dollars billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And when you say economic losses, it's not just the
people who lost their home, it's not just the people
who lost their businesses. It's about the inability of people
in that community to support businesses. It's about the inability
of those businesses to also generate revenue in connection to
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the GDP of that particular area. In fact, the estimates,
and this is coming from UCLA, the disaster will reduce
La County's gross domestic product the GDP by four point
six billion dollars. So it's not just the money which
is needed to restore the area. It's about the ongoing
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loss of money which is moving through the community and
put back into the community through the natural occurrence of
business and commerce.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's all gone.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Think of all the businesses, small businesses, franchises, bigger businesses,
the big box retailers, that's all gone, all those jobs gone,
all that revenue gone, and it's not coming back for
many years. And in fact, the smaller businesses, and this
has been an ongoing discussion. We talked about this earlier
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in the week with Zire Calvin, who I saw on
KTLA today. Those businesses may never come back because it's
one thing when you say, hey, we're.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Going to rick cruise.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Another thing, we're gonna set aside all this money to
make sure or Magic Johnson to make sure that these
cities and areas come back, you have to be able
to understand what they mean. Just because you get a
new Starbucks, just because you get a new I don't know,
TGI Fridays or a movie theater, that's only half of
the issue. You're still displacing or the people who were
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originally there are still displaced. Those businesses which were there
may not ever come back, So just replacing it with
a new business or a different business that doesn't help
the people necessarily who were there who lost everything, including
their businesses. So this is a multifaceted issue. There's the
money of just restoring the people and the businesses which
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were there, but you will not be able to restore
the lack of commerce in between now and the end
of that restoration period.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
The toughest part for me looking at this estimate, even
on if we just go in the middle one hundred
billion from ninety to one hundred and sixty four, let's
just say one hundred billion in losses.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They're talking about in losses. This is what's lost.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
This does not focus on what is not being measured
as far as what's going back in to restore. There
are so many people that I talk to who are
now realizing that the insurance that goes towards displacement as
a limit, and after your two months stay in hotel
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runs out, then it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like, well where do you go? Where do you go then?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Including not only where do you go to live, but
maybe you lost your job because your job is no longer.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
There, no longer there.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This is this is bigger than just the businesses in
Outta Dina or the palisades that may have burned down.
This is about people who no longer have the finances,
no longer have the spare capital to go shopping anywhere,
to go shopping anywhere. Period. This trickles down on so
many different levels. So with this, with these and these
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these are these are rough estimates. What I just I
swear I am not seeing anything anywhere that says the
State of California recognizes these losses. And the State of California,
because I promise you this and I will, I can
tell you for a fact, the insurance company are doing
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everything they can to duck and dodge. I know this
for a fact, yep, because it is happening to me personally.
They are ducking and dodging and switching for one case
manager to the other and then coming back and saying
things like, mister sharp, but we can give you one
thousand dollars to clean your clothing. You can take it
to the cleaners. And I'm like you, soob are you
serious right now? So this is what's happening with the
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insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
This. I often make mention of Hurricane Katrina and New
Orleans because there's a comparison point. The money may not
be the same, if only because of inflation, but there's
some similarities. And the UCLA economists high essessimate the one
hundred and sixty five billion that is equivalent to more
than three times the LA County's annual budget.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That gives you.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Some context and perspective of how large this number is.
Three years of La County's budget still wouldn't be enough
for an economic recovery. Okay, This is just to bring
a back to where you were, where you were, not
what you including what you lost. In the intervening time,
I hear something else, This disaster would only be second
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to Hurricane Katrina. Remember I was the one who was
bringing up Katrina, and Hurricane Katrina was in two thousand
and five, twenty years ago. That was two hundred billion
in two thousand and five dollars. I told you I
went to New Orleans a year after Katrina went to
New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Five years after Katrina.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
New Orleans was not back five years later, and New Orleans,
I would argue, had more of an infrastructure than what
Alta Dina has right now.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
New Orleans is not back now, Moe, what are we
talking about now, twenty years later, twenty years later, We're.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Not talking about the French Quarter. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
That area that was devastated is still, for the most part, devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I haven't been recently, but from what my friends in
New Orleans have told me that you can still see
houses which flooded and destroyed and people just walked away.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You still see the.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Destroyed structures, the skeletons, the frameworks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You can still see that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's almost like the city is putting it up there,
or keeping it up there as a shrine or something.
I like the fact that at least there is a
study that proves that we aren't crazy with the amount
of destruction that happened.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I love this.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I love that they say, now you see look at this,
look at this number. So when we come to you
and we say you've got to do more than your
gift certificates and your water and your clothing drugs, you
got to do more because getting anywhere near just one
of these billions, just one of these billions, it is were.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Light years away from you. Okay, let me do some
simple math. And I think Mark would appreciate this, because
he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't like the way you're setting this.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, no, I mean it's sincerely and seriously, Mark, did you
know that a billion is a thousand millions AE thousand
millions for just one billion, and we're talking about at
the upper range one hundred and sixty four billion. It's
a hard number to conceptualize, and it's hard to conceptualize
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this community ever. Coming back, it's later with mo Kelly
caf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio
app and when we come back, we're going to talk
about Santa Anita. And for me, it's indicative of the
larger conversation about horse racing. I've long said, even though
I've loved horse racing, that particular industry does not have
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long I'll tell you why once again, when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
There's a new lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
You're listening to later with Mo Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Santa Anita is back in the news, And if you
don't know, I grew up going to Santa Anita routinely
and Hollywood Park when they had horse racing there. Less
so to Del Mar or Los Albidos. My dad would
take me. He didn't care too much for the quarter
horses or harness racing, but he loved Santa Anita in
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Hollywood Park. I remember him teaching me how to read
a racing form. So understand, when I'm talking about Santa
Anita or the larger horse racing industry, I'm saying it
is someone who grew up in that environment, someone who
loved going to the horse races, someone who understands the
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history and the cultural relevance of horse racing, at least
here in Southern California, and also against the larger backdrop
of gambling how that has evolved in Southern California, especially
with big sports and big business. We were just talking
about Shohail Tani's former interpreter who's gone away for about
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five years or so. Sports gambling and betting and something
that we've covered here on later with Mo Kelly all
the time. So I understand this issue very well and
how it relates to different facets of culture business history
in southern California. But Santa need A Racetrack presently is
being sued by its former publicity director, who claims that
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he was fired because, according to him, he refused to
lie about alleged mismanagement amid a spike in horse deaths
in the Winner of twenty nineteen, which we reported on here.
We talked about that extensively, about the number of horses
which were dying consistently, almost a daily occurrence. I mean
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it got to the point whereas you're almost surprised that
a horse didn't also die at Santa Anita or some
other park in southern California. His name is Mike Wilman,
and he was fired in March after working for Santa
Anita for nineteen years. I think it's fair to say
he knows a little something about Santa Anita. I can't
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speak to the merits of his lawsuit, but I can
say if you've been in Santa a Nina for nineteen years,
you probably have seen some things. But In the lawsuit,
Willman contends that he was given a false reason involving
his use of inappropriate language to an employee. The suit
says Willman resisted other executives attempts to put out false
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narratives to deflect responsibility for the horse deaths away from
quote unquote surface issues, soils, extreme weather, and management of saying,
and instead blaming trainers for me personally, it doesn't matter
the cause of the horse deaths. I've long contended that
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horse racing as it's presently conceived is unsustainable in a
post Ring Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus world, in a
post marine Land and Sea world as they were originally
conceived world. Our relationship with entertainment and animals has changed.
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In a world which is post Michael Vick and his
dog fighting ring, we are as a society far more
sensitive to the idea of using animals for entertainment or
sports betting. Now, if you go to the southeastern portion
of the United States, depending on how old you are,
I don't know if Mark, if you ever had a
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chance to see a dog race like in Florida back
in the day, Oh god no, and I wouldn't either,
But that was a thing once upon a time. It's
not anymore because societies continue to move in this direction.
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
I've talked about how for the most part, they're closing
horse racing tracks just about every year, and I think
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over the past twenty year, maybe some five hundred or
so tracks have been closed, including Hollywood Park, one that
I loved going to with my father, and I think
of all the memories. Now it's just a casino. But
our society has changed, and also sports betting has changed.
It used to be when I was growing up, you
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go to Hollywood Park and that was the only quote
unquote gambling outlet in southern California.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You could bet the horses.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The reasoning being it was supposedly something about skill, not chance,
So horse racing and betting was allowed in southern California.
Then they developed off track betting where you could bet
the dog races in Florida. You could bet the horse
races at other tracks around the country. And it's just
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it was like a mission creep where slowly and slowly
betting became more and more prominent. Then you in the
previous I'll say maybe three or four years, there was
more legalized gambling for other sports. You can you know,
like DraftKings and fan duel and prize picks. You can
just bet on any sport, so the allure of horse
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racing wasn't the same anymore. You could just you know,
bet on sports. You can see how that's created a
problem for the different sports. This week, they just fired
a Major League Baseball umpire for involving himself in unauthorized
and illegal betting quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
As far as how sports betting is is harming, I
would say professional sports. But as far as horse racing goes,
not only is it more expensive than any other sports gaming,
it is I will just say, less acceptable the results
when you hear about the horses, how they're being treated,
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how they're being put down for just getting a broken
leg or what have you, because they can't be rehabilitated
for the most part. And society now is pretty much
on the side of protection of animals, especially when it
comes to entertainment reguling brothers in Bartima Bailey serve a circus.
They're still around, but they've completely revamped the act to
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not have animals as the form of entertainment. We've actually
featured them on this show. SeaWorld has completely revamped its
operations because of the Blackfish documentary. I'm just saying, let
the past be prologue for what is happening right now.
Horse racing as we know it is not going to
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be around. I would say in ten years. I would
give it ten years, but it's going to be a
diminution between.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now and then. Go ahead, Mark, oh No.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
If anybody doubts that our attitudes change, just clock your
own response. When you pop in an old movie and
they happen to show a real cockfight in it, these
things go away. And it was just, you know, it's
weird that you bring this up, because last night I
was watching Cross and there's a part where the serial
killer's mom explains about how a childhood friend explains how
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he used to start off with cruelty to animals, which
is of how a lot of sociopaths get their start.
And I was sitting there as I was eating, and
I should preface this by saying, nobody loves a steak
and a martini more than me.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's my death row meal.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
But I thought, you know, someday spiritually, Otherwise we're really
going to have to answer for all the animals that
we've treated so horribly.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, we try to justify it and say, you know,
it's a food source.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We're not doing it for sport.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, the attitude towards honey has changed in large part. Yeah,
I know in certain quadrants of the country, honting is
still very big, but there's still a movement and pushback
against that, which we didn't have just ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Oh you should see if you don't already, the responses,
the outraged, horrified responses when people post trophy hunting. I
mean hunting for food that you need, that's one thing,
but trophy hunting for no good reason other than the
fact that you're a bloodthirsty psychopath. People are responding a
lot differently to that now than they did when we
were kids.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
All those threads are somewhat woven together. I'm not saying
that hunting is in the same emotional basket as SeaWorld,
but they're not that far apart.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's a continuum for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
In that Venn diagram, there is some overlap. They're not
quite concentric circles, if you know what I mean. But
the people who feel strongly anti hunting are most likely
in the same group who are anti horse racing, and
just out of just capitalism the desire to make money.
Horse racing is not the money maker now that it
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was ten years ago, if only because of stories just
like these, the bad publicity of horses dying. Now you
got a former publicity executive suing Santa Anita for allegedly
lying about the reasons horses were dying in an age
where animals the mistreatment of animals is not readily acceptable.
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It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM six forty Live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You got to talk about
the Lakers when we come back. They're playing right now
and you're wondering, well is Luka Doncics player will tell
you about whether he is or whether.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He isn't and why just a moment.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You may not be a sports fan, but you probably
are aware of what's going on in southern California. In fact,
I know that the KFI listening audience is probably one
of the most informed groups in the world, especially when
it comes to news items. You don't have to be
a sports fan, but you probably know that there was
(27:48):
a huge trade last week with the Los Angeles Lakers,
and I've been a lifelong fan. The Lakers traded their
center Anthony Daydavis, who's thirty one years old but has
had some injury difficulties, and received arguably one of the
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top three players in the league in Luka Doncic, who
was the star for the Dallas Mavericks. And just about
nobody in the league, players or personnel saw the trade coming,
and it's one of the most shocking trades ever. It
was so shocking. Just for an example, my mother texted
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me today and she's probably been a Laker fan longer
than me, and she's not going to appreciate me telling this,
but just for reference point, she had her eighty fourth
birthday last month in January. Okay, she texts me with
all sorts of profanity, mind you, because she's a vulgar individual,
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saying something to the effective, how in the f that
the f and Lakers get F and Luca, And I'm thinking, like, well,
at least your paying attention to the Lakers. And I
gave her my answers like, look, no one saw this coming.
It's one of the biggest trades ever. And my mother
is someone who knows enough about basketball to remember when
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the Lakers got Kareem abdul Jabbar for a Happy Meal
and one other player.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Named Brian Winters.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
She remembers when the Lakers were able to convince Shaquille
O'Neill to come to LA from the Orlando Magic. She
remembers when Lebron signed as a free agent to come
to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
She remembers all of that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
She can cite history chapter and verse about the Lakers,
and even she was like, how the hell expletive explative
explorative did the explortive exploative Lakers managed to get expletive
Luca in a trade? And I didn't have an answer,
But people are wondering since that time, when is he
going to play?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
From what I understand, I was talking to Tim Kates,
the producer for Petrols and Money of our partner station
AM five to seventy LA Sports that Luca's not playing tonight.
The Lakers are right now playing the Golden State Warriors,
and they're kicking the Warriors in the teeth right about
now they're up by twenty one points in the second quarter.
But the point is people are wondering and waiting. I
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know that ESPN had changed some of their schedule featured
games over the weekend. I think the Lakers is supposed
to play Saturday, and it's unclear whether Luka Doncic would
be playing Saturday or Monday. My sources, the people that
I know who are closer to the NBA than I am,
say that he's going to debut at a Laker uniform
on Monday, but it could be as early as Saturday,
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and we would get a better sense of whether the
Lakers are pretenders or contenders. They also made a trade
of a very promising rookie in Dalton connect who was
out of Tennessee. They got him with the seventeenth pick,
and I thought that Dalton was perfect for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And maybe he was.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
He was going to be an outstanding player in the NBA.
But the Lakers need a center right now. They don't
necessarily need a shooting guard because they got Luka Doncic,
who's going to average twenty ten and eight probably for
the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So it's bittersweet for me because I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
See that particular rookie turn into something special, and I
think he will long term. But I'm pretty excited about
what the Lakers have right now, and they have a
chance to make a run in the playoffs and bring
the glory back to Los Angeles. And then I can
stick my finger in the eye of Michael Krozer, who's
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a Clippers fan, and talk best about all the Clippers
fans here. And I miss you and Tawala talking trash
to each other about sports.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Twala is a Laker fan as well, so we don't
necessarily bump heads on the Lakers, but we will talk
trash to the Clipper fans here. And if you don't
know A five seventy, our partner station is the Clippers station,
so Adam Oslin, who does the pre and postgame show
for the Clippers, he will usually talk smack to us
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about the Lakers. I noticed he was very quiet when
the Lakers blew out the Clippers the other day. I
noticed it he didn't have anything to say to me.
It's almost like he was avoiding me or something. I
almost took it personally because I avoid you.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I have no stake in it whatsoever, because I don't
really care about those sports, but I know those sports
well that The stuff I like is fights, you know,
sociopathic stuff like that. But I love watching people get
just apoplectic and mean to each other about their sports teams.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That is hugely entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's interesting you say that because from my final thought tonight,
I'm going to be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Mark Ronner's almost like you were in my head. It's
not that hard. Mom.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Look at the time Tech Thursday with Marsha Cary. When
we come back, go like.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Oh, how dare you? There?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
We go, how dare you? Someone's back in the saddle.
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It's raining, it's pouring. The old man is snoring. Who
the hell made up that nursery rhyme thing? Many many
eons ago? It's later with mo Kelly k if I
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's raining, it's pouring. And who made that up?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Someone who works in a nursing home. Clearly okay, because
it never made sense to me.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I know. They just need things to rhyme, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Jingle bells, batman smells, Robin laden Egg, batmobile lost its.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Wheel, and Joker got away? Who makes this stuff up? Children? Man?
That one in a long time. I remember the first
time I heard that.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I think it was maybe in third grade, long before
you were born, Stefan, and I thought, oh, that's so witty.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It's clever tingo bells, Batman smells, Robin laid an egg,
batmobile lost its wheel, and everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What I'm talking about. Everyone heard it, okay, and Joker
got away. It's raining, it's pouring, it's raining everywhere, And
where was this rain three weeks ago? And it would
have been nice if we had this rain three weeks ago,
because the fires obviously would have done far less damage,
and with far less damage, there's far less concern about
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impending mud slides or debris flow. But now I think
we're gonna have to honestly and seriously consider the possibility
of there being these mud slides and debris flows, if
only because we're going to get a lot of rain,
or at least from what Mark Ronner was tellingby earlier.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Ah, well, there's the pause that refreshes.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Why do you always got to make it sensual? But
what was dirty about that? There's always an exhale. You're
always the one who makes things dirty. I'm the news man,
I'm neutral.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
No one's going to acknowledge that lie. And we're off.
How much rain are we getting thereabouts?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Well, it's going to rain through probably tomorrow afternoon and
that should be the end of it. Then we got
sun for the weekend. Does that satisfy you, mo?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It does.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
But there are a couple of other things I need
to complain about real quick. Well, let it all out.
I remember, and I said, you know, it's raining, it's pouring.
The old man is snoring things of our youth. When
I was a kid growing up, and it was a
very very long time ago, I'm surprised you can remember
back then. No, I can, but I need help to
remember times. I need, you know, some sort of mental
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triggers to remind me of what it was like in
the nineteen seventies. But back in the nineteen seventies, we
had this thing that we called heavy rain. Now they
call it atmospheric rivers, like it's some cataclysmic event.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, it's just heavy rain.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, that sounds like something that Irish people in Sparkly
Spandex would be dancing too.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm not interested in atmospheric rivers. That is a very
oddly specific reference. Yeah, it's not like a river dance
type thing. Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, Yeah, we need Michael Flatley delivering all the news
on atmospheric rivers.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
When you say atmospheric rivers, I'm thinking like there is.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
A wall of water flowing horizontally above my head.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, climate change doesn't work quite that.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Fast atmospheric rivers. No heavy rain would be sufficient. And
in addition to the heavy rain, we we now have
a health advisory from the La County Department of Public Health.
Remember how I would tell you, and it was me,
There's no one else I would tell you whenever there
was a health advisory relating to the beaches, and I said,
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this is really ridiculous. They say one hundred yards up
and one hundred yards down, if you're from such and
such location, that's where it's dangerous. Why don't you just
say the whole fricking beach. Because dirty water, fecal water,
is going to go wherever it wants. Why are you
trying to limit it as far as where it supposedly
is going to be. Somebody has been listening to this
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show from the La County Department of Public Health.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
With rainstorms affecting southern California this week, the Los Angeles
County Department of Public Health is advising everyone to avoid
all water contact on local beaches. Didn't specify this beach,
not that beach, not this water tower, not this life
guard station. They said everyone everywhere, no contact. Do not
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go into water, do not try to uh sunbathe next
to the water, don't get anywhere near the water.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
They have been listening to this show.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Well, they'll they'll know that, We'll know that they've taken
you at your word when they adopt mister Hanky is
their mascot. Stephan won't get that reference. He's not trying
to help. Stephan doesn't know mister Hankey, the Christmas poof
from South Park.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, I know that. There we go. Well you didn't
acknowledge it. Well, he's always checked out these days. I'm working.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
So we can now count as a notch on our belt.
La Metro we know they listen. And now the La
County Department of Public Health, we know that they listen.
They're coming around very slowly. Pretty soon they'll put out
a poop advisory. When they do that, I know that
they're all the way into the show.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Well, they'd have to call it something a little bit more,
no more bureaucratic, no, no go to be poop tied,
a number two advisory, no poop.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Tides, or if they call it a number two advisory,
who's that for? Who earned that? It was like a
double A double tie is a number two advisors? It
was a number two. It was a deuce. Okayn d
thank you for that. There you go.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
We're going straight to the bottom just as quickly as
we can. But on the rest of the show tonight,
we got to tell you about to be serious La
County wildfire losses. They are now starting to quantify how
much damage all of this rebuilding effort is going to cost,
and U C. L A has waited with some of
the preliminary estimates. We're going to go to Santa Anita
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and talk about an emerging lawsuit there. Kind of told
you about that as well as far as where the
horse racing industry was going, and we have more evidence
to that. And the Lakers are playing right now. If
you're wondering, well, if Luka Doncic, the new superstar for
the team, if he's gonna play tonight, is he playing?
We'll tell you about that as well. That's it's just
the first hour. It's Later with Mo Kelly CAFI AM
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six forty. We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
When I was listening to Mark Ronner during the news
break and he was talking about how the former interpreter
for Sho Hal Tani was sentenced today and he'll have
to go to club fed for almost five years.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, thanks for ruining the surprise for everybody that was
coming into bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh I'm sorry. Well, his ass is going to jail
shut you.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But my point is this, and I was thinking about that,
and he stole about fifteen million dollars seventeen except wait
that we supposedly know of seventeen million, right, fewer than
five years now. If I go out and try to
rob a Wells Fargo bank with just a note, just
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a note, I'm getting fifteen to life in state prison.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
I'm still taking your side on that. Wells Farco's kind
of a I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Any bank I had to meet a call about my name,
I'll just free, you know, just and at most I'm
getting what, let's say, ten thousand dollars. Okay, there's not
a massive haul you're going to get from any bank location.
Next time, I should say, kiddies, pay attention if you
want to steal steal fifteen million from your rich friend
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and you only go to club fed for five years
at most.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
I think that's one of the main lessons from the
last several years is if you're going to do crimes,
go big.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And I always say make sure it's federal. You want
to end up in a federal facility.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Not that that they're all easy, but you definitely want
to end up in a federal one as opposed to
a state penitentiary.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I'm not going to get all specific because I just
don't need the headache. But think of the small things
that ended people's public lives just a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Go big, go big.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Well that life advice out of the way, let's talk
about the La County wildfires. Now, we know that it
was going to cost billions of dollars to make these
communities whole. When I say communities, i'm talking about Pacific Palisades.
I'm talking about Altadena and various enclaves in between. But
as far as La County is concerned, which means it
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does not include Pacific Palisades because Palisades are considered La City.
I'm just talking now, right now about La County. The
economic losses from the fires that we all saw that
Twalla and me and Mark and Stephan were reporting on.
The economic losses will range and it's a huge range,
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between ninety five and one hundred and sixty four billion.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Dollars billion dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
And when you say economic losses, it's not just the
people who lost their home, it's not just the people
who lost their businesses. It's about the inability of people
in that community to support businesses. It's about the inability
of those businesses to also generate revenue in connection to
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the GDP of that particular area. In fact, the estimates,
and this is coming from UCLA, the disaster will reduce
La County's gross domestic product the GDP by four point
six billion dollars. So it's not just the money which
is needed to restore the area. It's about the ongoing
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loss of money which is moving through the community and
put back into the community through the natural occurrence of
business and commerce.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
That's all gone.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Think of all the businesses, small businesses, franchises, bigger businesses,
the big box retailers, that's all gone, all those jobs gone,
all that revenue gone, and it's not coming back for
many years. And in fact, the smaller businesses, and this
has been an ongoing discussion. We talked about this earlier
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in the week with Zire Calvin, who I saw on
KTLA today. Those businesses may never come back because it's
one thing when you say, hey, we're.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Going to rick cruise.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Another thing, we're gonna set aside all this money to
make sure or Magic Johnson to make sure that these
cities and areas come back, you have to be able
to understand what they mean. Just because you get a
new Starbucks, just because you get a new I don't know,
TGI Fridays or a movie theater, that's only half of
the issue. You're still displacing or the people who were
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originally there are still displaced. Those businesses which were there
may not ever come back, So just replacing it with
a new business or a different business that doesn't help
the people necessarily who were there who lost everything, including
their businesses. So this is a multifaceted issue. There's the
money of just restoring the people and the businesses which
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were there, but you will not be able to restore
the lack of commerce in between now and the end
of that restoration period.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
The toughest part for me looking at this estimate, even
on if we just go in the middle one hundred
billion from ninety to one hundred and sixty four, let's
just say one hundred billion in losses.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They're talking about in losses. This is what's lost.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
This does not focus on what is not being measured
as far as what's going back in to restore. There
are so many people that I talk to who are
now realizing that the insurance that goes towards displacement as
a limit, and after your two months stay in hotel
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runs out, then it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Like, well where do you go? Where do you go then?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Including not only where do you go to live, but
maybe you lost your job because your job is no longer.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
There, no longer there.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This is this is bigger than just the businesses in
Outta Dina or the palisades that may have burned down.
This is about people who no longer have the finances,
no longer have the spare capital to go shopping anywhere,
to go shopping anywhere. Period. This trickles down on so
many different levels. So with this, with these and these
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these are these are rough estimates. What I just I
swear I am not seeing anything anywhere that says the
State of California recognizes these losses. And the State of California,
because I promise you this and I will, I can
tell you for a fact, the insurance company are doing
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everything they can to duck and dodge. I know this
for a fact, yep, because it is happening to me personally.
They are ducking and dodging and switching for one case
manager to the other and then coming back and saying
things like, mister sharp, but we can give you one
thousand dollars to clean your clothing. You can take it
to the cleaners. And I'm like you, soob are you
serious right now? So this is what's happening with the
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insurance companies.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
This. I often make mention of Hurricane Katrina and New
Orleans because there's a comparison point. The money may not
be the same, if only because of inflation, but there's
some similarities. And the UCLA economists high essessimate the one
hundred and sixty five billion that is equivalent to more
than three times the LA County's annual budget.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That gives you.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Some context and perspective of how large this number is.
Three years of La County's budget still wouldn't be enough
for an economic recovery. Okay, This is just to bring
a back to where you were, where you were, not
what you including what you lost. In the intervening time,
I hear something else, This disaster would only be second
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to Hurricane Katrina. Remember I was the one who was
bringing up Katrina, and Hurricane Katrina was in two thousand
and five, twenty years ago. That was two hundred billion
in two thousand and five dollars. I told you I
went to New Orleans a year after Katrina went to
New Orleans.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Five years after Katrina.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
New Orleans was not back five years later, and New Orleans,
I would argue, had more of an infrastructure than what
Alta Dina has right now.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
New Orleans is not back now, Moe, what are we
talking about now, twenty years later, twenty years later, We're.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Not talking about the French Quarter. No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
That area that was devastated is still, for the most part, devastating.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I haven't been recently, but from what my friends in
New Orleans have told me that you can still see
houses which flooded and destroyed and people just walked away.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
You still see the.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Destroyed structures, the skeletons, the frameworks.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You can still see that.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
It's almost like the city is putting it up there,
or keeping it up there as a shrine or something.
I like the fact that at least there is a
study that proves that we aren't crazy with the amount
of destruction that happened.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I love this.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I love that they say, now you see look at this,
look at this number. So when we come to you
and we say you've got to do more than your
gift certificates and your water and your clothing drugs, you
got to do more because getting anywhere near just one
of these billions, just one of these billions, it is were.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Light years away from you. Okay, let me do some
simple math. And I think Mark would appreciate this, because
he's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't like the way you're setting this.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
No, no, I mean it's sincerely and seriously, Mark, did you
know that a billion is a thousand millions AE thousand
millions for just one billion, and we're talking about at
the upper range one hundred and sixty four billion. It's
a hard number to conceptualize, and it's hard to conceptualize
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this community ever. Coming back, it's later with mo Kelly
caf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio
app and when we come back, we're going to talk
about Santa Anita. And for me, it's indicative of the
larger conversation about horse racing. I've long said, even though
I've loved horse racing, that particular industry does not have
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long I'll tell you why once again, when we come back.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
There's a new lawsuit.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
You're listening to later with Mo Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
Santa Anita is back in the news, And if you
don't know, I grew up going to Santa Anita routinely
and Hollywood Park when they had horse racing there. Less
so to Del Mar or Los Albidos. My dad would
take me. He didn't care too much for the quarter
horses or harness racing, but he loved Santa Anita in
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Hollywood Park. I remember him teaching me how to read
a racing form. So understand, when I'm talking about Santa
Anita or the larger horse racing industry, I'm saying it
is someone who grew up in that environment, someone who
loved going to the horse races, someone who understands the
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history and the cultural relevance of horse racing, at least
here in Southern California, and also against the larger backdrop
of gambling how that has evolved in Southern California, especially
with big sports and big business. We were just talking
about Shohail Tani's former interpreter who's gone away for about
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five years or so. Sports gambling and betting and something
that we've covered here on later with Mo Kelly all
the time. So I understand this issue very well and
how it relates to different facets of culture business history
in southern California. But Santa need A Racetrack presently is
being sued by its former publicity director, who claims that
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he was fired because, according to him, he refused to
lie about alleged mismanagement amid a spike in horse deaths
in the Winner of twenty nineteen, which we reported on here.
We talked about that extensively, about the number of horses
which were dying consistently, almost a daily occurrence. I mean
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it got to the point whereas you're almost surprised that
a horse didn't also die at Santa Anita or some
other park in southern California. His name is Mike Wilman,
and he was fired in March after working for Santa
Anita for nineteen years. I think it's fair to say
he knows a little something about Santa Anita. I can't
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speak to the merits of his lawsuit, but I can
say if you've been in Santa a Nina for nineteen years,
you probably have seen some things. But In the lawsuit,
Willman contends that he was given a false reason involving
his use of inappropriate language to an employee. The suit
says Willman resisted other executives attempts to put out false
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narratives to deflect responsibility for the horse deaths away from
quote unquote surface issues, soils, extreme weather, and management of saying,
and instead blaming trainers for me personally, it doesn't matter
the cause of the horse deaths. I've long contended that
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horse racing as it's presently conceived is unsustainable in a
post Ring Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus world, in a
post marine Land and Sea world as they were originally
conceived world. Our relationship with entertainment and animals has changed.
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In a world which is post Michael Vick and his
dog fighting ring, we are as a society far more
sensitive to the idea of using animals for entertainment or
sports betting. Now, if you go to the southeastern portion
of the United States, depending on how old you are,
I don't know if Mark, if you ever had a
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chance to see a dog race like in Florida back
in the day, Oh god no, and I wouldn't either,
But that was a thing once upon a time. It's
not anymore because societies continue to move in this direction.
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but
I've talked about how for the most part, they're closing
horse racing tracks just about every year, and I think
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over the past twenty year, maybe some five hundred or
so tracks have been closed, including Hollywood Park, one that
I loved going to with my father, and I think
of all the memories. Now it's just a casino. But
our society has changed, and also sports betting has changed.
It used to be when I was growing up, you
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go to Hollywood Park and that was the only quote
unquote gambling outlet in southern California.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
You could bet the horses.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The reasoning being it was supposedly something about skill, not chance,
So horse racing and betting was allowed in southern California.
Then they developed off track betting where you could bet
the dog races in Florida. You could bet the horse
races at other tracks around the country. And it's just
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it was like a mission creep where slowly and slowly
betting became more and more prominent. Then you in the
previous I'll say maybe three or four years, there was
more legalized gambling for other sports. You can you know,
like DraftKings and fan duel and prize picks. You can
just bet on any sport, so the allure of horse
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racing wasn't the same anymore. You could just you know,
bet on sports. You can see how that's created a
problem for the different sports. This week, they just fired
a Major League Baseball umpire for involving himself in unauthorized
and illegal betting quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that's a different conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
As far as how sports betting is is harming, I
would say professional sports. But as far as horse racing goes,
not only is it more expensive than any other sports gaming,
it is I will just say, less acceptable the results
when you hear about the horses, how they're being treated,
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how they're being put down for just getting a broken
leg or what have you, because they can't be rehabilitated
for the most part. And society now is pretty much
on the side of protection of animals, especially when it
comes to entertainment reguling brothers in Bartima Bailey serve a circus.
They're still around, but they've completely revamped the act to
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not have animals as the form of entertainment. We've actually
featured them on this show. SeaWorld has completely revamped its
operations because of the Blackfish documentary. I'm just saying, let
the past be prologue for what is happening right now.
Horse racing as we know it is not going to
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be around. I would say in ten years. I would
give it ten years, but it's going to be a
diminution between.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now and then. Go ahead, Mark, oh No.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
If anybody doubts that our attitudes change, just clock your
own response. When you pop in an old movie and
they happen to show a real cockfight in it, these
things go away. And it was just, you know, it's
weird that you bring this up, because last night I
was watching Cross and there's a part where the serial
killer's mom explains about how a childhood friend explains how
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he used to start off with cruelty to animals, which
is of how a lot of sociopaths get their start.
And I was sitting there as I was eating, and
I should preface this by saying, nobody loves a steak
and a martini more than me.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
That's my death row meal.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
But I thought, you know, someday spiritually, Otherwise we're really
going to have to answer for all the animals that
we've treated so horribly.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, we try to justify it and say, you know,
it's a food source.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
We're not doing it for sport.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, the attitude towards honey has changed in large part. Yeah,
I know in certain quadrants of the country, honting is
still very big, but there's still a movement and pushback
against that, which we didn't have just ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Oh you should see if you don't already, the responses,
the outraged, horrified responses when people post trophy hunting. I
mean hunting for food that you need, that's one thing,
but trophy hunting for no good reason other than the
fact that you're a bloodthirsty psychopath. People are responding a
lot differently to that now than they did when we
were kids.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
All those threads are somewhat woven together. I'm not saying
that hunting is in the same emotional basket as SeaWorld,
but they're not that far apart.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It's a continuum for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
In that Venn diagram, there is some overlap. They're not
quite concentric circles, if you know what I mean. But
the people who feel strongly anti hunting are most likely
in the same group who are anti horse racing, and
just out of just capitalism the desire to make money.
Horse racing is not the money maker now that it
(26:43):
was ten years ago, if only because of stories just
like these, the bad publicity of horses dying. Now you
got a former publicity executive suing Santa Anita for allegedly
lying about the reasons horses were dying in an age
where animals the mistreatment of animals is not readily acceptable.
(27:07):
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and you're wondering, well is Luka Doncics player will tell
you about whether he is or whether.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
He isn't and why just a moment.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
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KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You may not be a sports fan, but you probably
are aware of what's going on in southern California. In fact,
I know that the KFI listening audience is probably one
of the most informed groups in the world, especially when
it comes to news items. You don't have to be
a sports fan, but you probably know that there was
(27:48):
a huge trade last week with the Los Angeles Lakers,
and I've been a lifelong fan. The Lakers traded their
center Anthony Daydavis, who's thirty one years old but has
had some injury difficulties, and received arguably one of the
(28:09):
top three players in the league in Luka Doncic, who
was the star for the Dallas Mavericks. And just about
nobody in the league, players or personnel saw the trade coming,
and it's one of the most shocking trades ever. It
was so shocking. Just for an example, my mother texted
(28:30):
me today and she's probably been a Laker fan longer
than me, and she's not going to appreciate me telling this,
but just for reference point, she had her eighty fourth
birthday last month in January. Okay, she texts me with
all sorts of profanity, mind you, because she's a vulgar individual,
(28:51):
saying something to the effective, how in the f that
the f and Lakers get F and Luca, And I'm thinking, like, well,
at least your paying attention to the Lakers. And I
gave her my answers like, look, no one saw this coming.
It's one of the biggest trades ever. And my mother
is someone who knows enough about basketball to remember when
(29:12):
the Lakers got Kareem abdul Jabbar for a Happy Meal
and one other player.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Named Brian Winters.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
She remembers when the Lakers were able to convince Shaquille
O'Neill to come to LA from the Orlando Magic. She
remembers when Lebron signed as a free agent to come
to the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
She remembers all of that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
She can cite history chapter and verse about the Lakers,
and even she was like, how the hell expletive explative
explorative did the explortive exploative Lakers managed to get expletive
Luca in a trade? And I didn't have an answer,
But people are wondering since that time, when is he
going to play?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
From what I understand, I was talking to Tim Kates,
the producer for Petrols and Money of our partner station
AM five to seventy LA Sports that Luca's not playing tonight.
The Lakers are right now playing the Golden State Warriors,
and they're kicking the Warriors in the teeth right about
now they're up by twenty one points in the second quarter.
But the point is people are wondering and waiting. I
(30:20):
know that ESPN had changed some of their schedule featured
games over the weekend. I think the Lakers is supposed
to play Saturday, and it's unclear whether Luka Doncic would
be playing Saturday or Monday. My sources, the people that
I know who are closer to the NBA than I am,
say that he's going to debut at a Laker uniform
on Monday, but it could be as early as Saturday,
(30:44):
and we would get a better sense of whether the
Lakers are pretenders or contenders. They also made a trade
of a very promising rookie in Dalton connect who was
out of Tennessee. They got him with the seventeenth pick,
and I thought that Dalton was perfect for the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And maybe he was.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
He was going to be an outstanding player in the NBA.
But the Lakers need a center right now. They don't
necessarily need a shooting guard because they got Luka Doncic,
who's going to average twenty ten and eight probably for
the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So it's bittersweet for me because I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
See that particular rookie turn into something special, and I
think he will long term. But I'm pretty excited about
what the Lakers have right now, and they have a
chance to make a run in the playoffs and bring
the glory back to Los Angeles. And then I can
stick my finger in the eye of Michael Krozer, who's
(31:43):
a Clippers fan, and talk best about all the Clippers
fans here. And I miss you and Tawala talking trash
to each other about sports.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Twala is a Laker fan as well, so we don't
necessarily bump heads on the Lakers, but we will talk
trash to the Clipper fans here. And if you don't
know A five seventy, our partner station is the Clippers station,
so Adam Oslin, who does the pre and postgame show
for the Clippers, he will usually talk smack to us
(32:12):
about the Lakers. I noticed he was very quiet when
the Lakers blew out the Clippers the other day. I
noticed it he didn't have anything to say to me.
It's almost like he was avoiding me or something. I
almost took it personally because I avoid you.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
I have no stake in it whatsoever, because I don't
really care about those sports, but I know those sports
well that The stuff I like is fights, you know,
sociopathic stuff like that. But I love watching people get
just apoplectic and mean to each other about their sports teams.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That is hugely entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
It's interesting you say that because from my final thought tonight,
I'm going to be talking about that.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Mark Ronner's almost like you were in my head. It's
not that hard. Mom.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Look at the time Tech Thursday with Marsha Cary. When
we come back, go like.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Oh, how dare you? There?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
We go, how dare you? Someone's back in the saddle.
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