March 5, 2025 • 38 mins
ICYMI: Hour Two of ‘Later, with Mo’Kelly’ Presents – Thoughts on the failure of the February 28th “Economic Boycott” to impact Amazon AND a look at the formation of a fundraising committee to pursue a recall campaign against LA Mayor Bass…PLUS – A Spoiler free review of the Hulu political thriller series ‘Paradise’ and MORE - on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm here to tell you recalls, for the most part,
simply do not work. Recalls usually are a lazy effort
because you're lost an election. Well, your preferred candidate didn't win,
and now there's another recall effort. If you didn't hear
it during the news break with Mark Ronner, there is
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now an effort a foot to recall LA Mayor Karen Bass.
And if you know about the general steps needed for
a recall, you have to get thousands of signatures in
a certain amount of time. Then it has to be
scheduled for a special election, which is going to cost
millions and millions of dollars, and it's usually going to
be months and months out. Does anyone know what June two,
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twenty twenty six is anyone?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Anyone? Bueler, Bueler.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's only fifteen months away, right, that's the next LA
mayoral election. Don't you think it probably would be more
prudent to concentrate on that than a recall effort, which
probably will not generate enough interest. That's even if you
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get enough signatures, and just to have another election, because
the election still doesn't go away, you still would have
to have the election on June two, twenty twenty six. It's,
I would say, a fool's errand because this next mayoral
election is even sooner than the gubernatorial election. We were
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talking about the Gavini do some recall effort a couple
of weeks ago. But foes of Mayor Karen Bass have
formed a committee to raise money raise money for this
recall bit. And it doesn't matter to me whether the
people who are funding this are Republicans. For me, that's
neither here nor there. I'm just talking about the stud
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of it. I'm just talking about the efficacy of it.
I'm just saying like you would probably be better served
in a political sense if you pushed all your cards
into the center for the actual election as opposed to
this recall effort. Now there, I understand how when you
have a recall effort, it's a way to damage that.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Mayor or that governor.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Where you have this steady campaign, all these ads of
all that the person has done wrong and why that
person shouldn't be in office, and that can be used
in the general campaign. I get all that. I'm just
saying in the history of LA only one Los Angeles
mayor has ever successfully been recalled, and that was in
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nineteen thirty eight. That was a long time ago. And
it's not that people haven't been dissatisfied with LA mayor's
or California governors. It's just that the politics and elections
here in southern California especially are made in such a
way to discourage these many recall efforts. Rather you actually
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elect the person that you want as opposed to using
the recall as a way to subvert the election. It
seems like, now, well, so and so we didn't like
happen to win, we'll just recall them next year. How
many recall efforts have we had against Governor Gavin Newsom?
And this is not to exonerate or absolve anything that
Mayor Bass did or didn't do during the fires. I'm
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just saying, if you are expecting a recall effort to
change an election that you didn't like, an outcome that
you didn't like, not only are you deceiving yourself, you're
also wasting a lot of money and a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
To that point, Gavin Newsom's last recall effort costs the
state some two hundred and fifteen million dollars just to
hold the last fail to tipt, not all the others,
just the last one two hundred and fifteen million, fraud.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Wasted abuse, froad wasted abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But you know, we're supposedly about ridding our government of
wasteful spending or making sure our tax dollars are more
competently used. If you would like your tax dollars, or
if you just want to donate money to a cause
which is not going to yield the desired result, go
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right ahead, as they say. It's a free country. You're
welcome to do it, but just go in eyes wide open.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Just know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Let me just say it's not going to work. It's
not going to bring about the end of Karen Bass's career.
It's not going to bring down her mayoral bid. She's
running for a reelection. Odds are she will be reelected,
if only because the Democratic Party is probably not going
to run anyone against her, going to throw all if
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it's weight behind her. And what have I been saying.
I've been saying for I don't know how long. Hey, Republicans,
where is your damn candidate? And don't tell me it's
Rick Caruso because he ran as a Democrat and he's
been helping Democrats. Now he might be quote unquote quasi Republican,
but the point I'm making is as a registered Democrat,
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he will never be fully embraced by the Democratic Party.
Never one. He's been speaking out against Karen Bass. He's
been working to undermine Karen Bass. He was the competition
to Karen Bass. So the party affiliation is going to
work against him, not help him. And I keep asking, twall,
how many years I've been asking when are the Republican
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Republicans going to field a serious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Candidate for La mayor for the longest And it can't
be Angeline.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right with their billboard up on Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Dude, just can well don't rule that out? Please, well, no, no, no, no,
she may run again.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm just saying that's not going to be your best
foot forward. And I get the sense that Republicans are
now comfortable and content was saying La is horrible and
by the way, we're not going to put forward a
serious candidate. We want it both ways. I would love
to have competition of parties. I would love to have
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a strong Republican candidate come forward. But here's the problem.
If that person hasn't started coming forward now, they have
not started the process of developing those relationships, those constituencies,
those coalitions, what could help you in black and brown communities,
because let's remember Los Angeles is a majority minority city,
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So you have to have those relationships. If you haven't
started developing those relationships and constituencies, they're not going to
come out and support you on June second, twenty twenty six.
You can't show up in twenty twenty six and ask
people for people's vote. They're gonna say, who the hell
are you? Why should I trust you? I don't know
who you are. I'm telling you how politics actually works.
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You have to have these relationships. And if the only
people who are trying are the only people who are
trying to either maintain the relationships or field competent candidates
are the Democrats. Well, what are you complaining about? Oh,
it's on one party city, Yeah it is, but not
for the reasons that you're talking about. It's because you're not. Look,
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I can ask you till the cows come home. Who's
the Republican candidate for mayor in twenty twenty six? You
can't tell me anyone. I don't want to hear about
the person who ran for state Assembly eight years ago.
It is a good guy or a good woman. No,
who is actually someone who has a profile large enough
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and known by enough Angelinos who could actually challenge to
become mayor? And the only way you can develop that
profile is to be out there now, right now.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You have to be campaigning. Now. How do I know?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Because Mayor Bass has already said she's running for reelection
in twenty twenty six, She in effect has already started
her campaign for next year. And it doesn't matter how
incompetent you think she is, it doesn't matter how bad
you think that she handled the fire. If there's no
one running against her, she is going to win every
single time. And there's no one that you could email
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me and tell me. There's no one that she could
hit me on Facebook and tell me. There's no one
that you can tell me on Instagram or threads. Tell
me who is a candidate for mayor representing the Republican
Party at this moment?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not a credible one, not a realistic one. And whose fault.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Is that you're gonna You're gonna blame people say Oh
my gosh, you know we got the government that we
voted for.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You're damn right, because there's no other one to vote for.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You want to chain James Los Angeles, you have to
actually change the candidates.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And it's not just someone with an R next to
their name.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
We've got a lot of people run for governor with
an R next to their name, and they weren't serious.
They didn't have an actual campaign infrastructure, they didn't put
in the work to campaign up and down the state,
going to all the counties, and then they sit back, See,
c always vote for Democrats, and this is what we get.
I would love someone to prove me wrong, but I
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know I'm not wrong about this. There is nobody out
there for the Republicans and that's not the Democrats fault.
That means that the Republicans have seeded Los Angeles and
they've conceded that they're not going to win, and then
they're going to sit back and say, look at the crime,
look at the trash, look at the graffiti, look at
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the smashing grabs, look at this. It's all the Democrats fault.
And they won't even put one serious candidate forward for mayor.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Whose fault is that the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, I've been thinking I need to have I
need to hire someone who could just come in and
pat me on the back each and every day in
which I turn out to be right KFI AM six forty,
mister Kelly, in search of a back pattern. That's why
Stephen's here, We're live everyone. He's too far away. He
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has to run the board. He's in a different studio.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You need the physical contact and not just the oral
the verbald.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I need someone. Thank you, Steffan. I'm glad that you're
participating in the program, and Mark Ronner isn't. I said,
I need someone to actually come in the studio and
pat me on the back, because I would have earned it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I deserve it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Of course, remember that economic blackout, that boycott on just
February twenty eighth. I was telling you about remember that one,
and I gave you a litany of reasons why it
was not going to work.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Not that I was hoping against it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm saying it was ill fated, it was ill conceived,
it was ill planned.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
One of the companies which was supposed to be boycotted,
supposed to be, supposed to be planned to be didn't
be as they say, despite these calls, with US economic
blackout targeting major retailers on February twenty eight, last Friday,
early data has revealed that Amazon Amazon sales actually increased
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during the blackout boycott period that Friday. According to analytics
from Momentum Commerce, Amazon's transactions rose one percent compared to
typical Friday patterns, suggesting the boycott had limited impact on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I wonder why that is.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Maybe because we kept all talking about it and it
end up in everybody's algorithm and turned into advertisement for everyone,
including Amazon, because we're talking about you know how you
talk about something, it ends up on your phone in
terms of an ad.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
All this talk about Amazon and Target.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And Costo and just ended up in people's advertisements.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No proof to that, but there is proof that the
economic boycott did not have the intended impact. And I
say this because I want people to protest better. I
want people to be more successful with things which are
important to them, and they hope, they hope they can
affect change with their actions.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And there's nothing wrong with being an activist.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There's nothing wrong with wanting to make change right where
you are, but there is something to be said for
smart change. There is said, there's something to be said
for the effective use of social capital. If you're trying
to get everyone together to do one thing, coordinated at
a certain time, you only have a number of opportunities
to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
In other words, let's say you're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Get a meeting together and you want everyone at your
job to meet at twelve o'clock on Friday. If you
messed that up the first or second time, good luck
the third time, because it seems like you're not serious
or you don't know what you're doing. A one day
economic boycott is BS. I was trying to be nice before.
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Now I feel I have to be a nice or
less nice or semi nice. A one day economic boycott
is BS, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either
an idiot or is intentionally trying to mislead you.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
No, no, I don't know. Because targets web traffic was
down one percent, I'm sorry, but we're not talking about
web traffic.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We're actually talking about transactions.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And also, if web traffic is down for a day,
it doesn't mean anything if the web traffic is back
up on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Now, okay, okay, okay, okay. How about this though, Targets
in store foot traffic was down nine point five percent
on February twenty eighth compared to March first of last year.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And you know why that is because people have been
boycotting Target for almost six seven months now. Oh, which
has been my point. People have left Target in a
major way, not one day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Starbucks, though they were on the boycott list, and their
foot traffic was down three point two percent compared to
this time last year February twenty eighth, three point two Starbucks.
You know people love Starbucks. No, you have to show
me this time last year. Yeah, this time okay, Schwaller. No,
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that's not helping. Yeah, okay, I'm just I mean, I'm trying.
I'm trying because you wanted some some statistical facts that
that maybe the boycotts we were working or something.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Walmart, you know how many people go to Walmart? No?
I don't know, okay, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I understand that, but people do go, believe it or not,
I'm one of them. I didn't go on Friday because
I don't go shopping on Friday. That's just not what
I do. Here it comes, okay, here it comes. Walmart
foot traffic was down six point three percent on February
twenty eighth compared to the same Friday a year ago,
which is only down two point five percent.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What was it fort traffic last week? Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Oh last week? No, we're not talking about last week.
We're talking about last year. I mean last year.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
My point is, how can we say that that had
to do with the economic boycott or just inflation, or
it was just a down Friday. If you're pointed targeted
boycott of specific retailers, now there's a way you can't
find that out. Boycott them for six months. Oh, then
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you will know your impact. What about a year like yeah,
the most successful boycott, the one that happened to Montgomery,
not a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Of kids know about it. That was two hundred and
eighty one day, So that was more than a year.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that probably would have more
of a pronounced impact because another analogy that I used.
You know, I'm trying to lose some weight. If I
diet tomorrow, probably not going to see a lot of results.
Or if I want a weightlift for one day, probably
not going to see a lot of results. I mean,
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you understand where I'm going with this, right, You're actually
gonna have to show some commitment. Let's say I want
to be better with my oral hygiene. I probably have
to brush my teeth more than once in a month, right, Right,
I mean I don't think this is very hard. Let's
say you want to be a better pianist. You want
to play the piano, and you only practice say it
with me one day. You're not going to be very
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good at it. You're not gonna have any real results
to show for it. Let's say you want to be
a radio host and all you do is practice one day.
If you want to be an NBA star, you practice
one day, You're not changing anything because it's the totality
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of your actions, the consistency of your actions. If you
do it every day, you will see a legitimate impact.
Like for example, going back to the bus boycott. Let's
say we're boycotting the metro. All right, you usually use
the metro three times a week. What happens if you
don't use it once? Is anyone going to miss you financially, no, no,
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stop using the Metro for a year and a half
and see what happens. You will see and everyone else
will see and notice your absence, financially, physically, everything. It
can't be one day because ultimately, if we looked at
the totality of numbers, because retailers look in quarters, they
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don't look in days. If we look at the quarter,
most likely the people who didn't shop on Friday have
shopped since either on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or today Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
What have you changed?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You probably have given the same amount of money now
or by now that you didn't give on Friday, which
was a workday.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Who the hell shops on a Friday or workday?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And if you didn't shop on Friday, it's probably more
convenient to do on a Saturday. Well that's when I
did my shopping. Okay, I'm sorry, Hello, thank you very much.
I need twalla keep you come on here and pat
me on the back way.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'm not patting your back, I'm not. Let's hire someone.
Can we get an intern? Oh no, this is probably
that's no, there's rules against that. Careful, careful, I'd come
in and do it, but look at this mark. You
can give a stiff batpack what you could give a
stiff backpack or back pat. Yes, it would be it
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would be a little on the rough side, but he
can handle it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, some of us like it rough. Yeah. Damn it
was a long delay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, sometimes it's good to wait for it. You didn't
make him wait as long. It's like tantric sex up
in here. You're the sting of KFI.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You can hold me ton.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Okay, if I am six forty, we'll out everywhere in
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Speaker 1 (19:59):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (20:05):
Stephan, what episode are you on with Paradise? I just
finished episode three? Okay, all right, it hurt your ass up,
I'm heard. I'm trying, man.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They just had a season finale dropped today. Heard ut
I know.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I saw your guys's analysis of it, and I'm like, oh, man,
I can't wait. And then I kind of got with
Twalla was talking about yesterday about something that was taken,
and I'm like, oh, that's gonna get real good.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, it gets real good.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I was saying yesterday, not that I dislike it usually
sets up disappointment. When you have a great penultimate episode,
it's almost like, what what can you do the top
that to end the season?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And you see it in a lot of different television series,
the next to the last episode is the best episode.
They have all the great reveals and action and paradise.
I would say is along those lines. I didn't dislike
the last episode. I just felt that it was more
a continuation of the events of episode seven, and it
would probably have been better if they just pushed those
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two together and ended it there.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
So instead of making a whole other episode, just have
an extended ending episode.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, because episode eight is really just a continuation of
the events of seven. I mean, it's not like you're
telling a different portion of the story. It is continuing
the events of that particular day of episode seven. And
then you said it just bridged it basically for season two,
because we can say, yeah, set.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Up everything for season two.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They left you to point where you realize where season
two is going to pick up and some of the
key events of season two, so it would have made
sense to just make that the finale. They should have
written it in a way where it's like you just
take guess I'm guessing what however, it ended on eight,
put it on seven, and then that would have been
like way to just go it to the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm talking about storytelling.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Now, if you have promised eight episodes, you're going to
deliver eight episodes. You may separate them to make sure
you have eight episodes, But as far as the storytelling,
seven would have been fine.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You just pushed seven and eight together. Mark, what say
you welcome to serialized television. That's true.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You know, the seventh episode was so intense that you
weren't going to match that. And I don't know if
they had shot the whole thing up through episode eight
before they knew they were going to have a second season.
But mainly that's what episode eight does is set up
the second season and for it to open up without
spoiling anything and getting very specific, see as you did there, Well,
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it's I found it pretty satisfying, and I would have
been just fine leaving things where they are, but there's
room to go still in this story before it wears out.
It's welcome.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I would have been very mad if they gave us
to eight episodes as they were presently, you know, laid
out up and then they said no second season. I've
been really mad, and that's part of the reason why
I'm usually I'm usually against watching television series in our
first season because I don't want to get emotionally attached
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to something which is not going to be brought back.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, that's kind of how I approached Breaking Bad. I
got sick of everybody talking about it every week. But
the second the series was over and I knew I
could just chain watch it all, That's what I did.
I would say just based off it and the last
couple of episodes I watched to keep that intensity. You're right,
you can't go like season three, four five, And the
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only comparison I can think of is dead to me.
You get to the third season and it's just as
good as the first, but it's like, if they would
have continued it, it would have just been awful.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's the only way I can compare. It's not the
same thing, but the way the story was told.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
It's one thing that I like about the show is
that it gets to feature some people who you've liked
in other things but have an always been front and
center in the cast sterlie K Brown obviously, but also
James Marsden, who you know, he kind of felt short
changed with him in the X Men movie since and
maybe even in West World.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
No, No, he was great.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I liked his part of Westworld, but you wanted to
see more of him and you never really did. And
so he was terrific in this and he's aging into
I think, a really interesting actor and not just a
pretty boy.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, he was woefully underutilized in X Men, and I'm
not saying that Scott Summers. The character left a lot
of room for great acting, but we never got to
see James Marston as an actor in that particular role,
which is a shame because that is such a complex character.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The creators just didn't know what to do with it.
Brian Singer has no business directing superhero fanfare, much less movies.
He should be banned from any lot. He should even
pass by his car much should be deactivated even driving
by a studio. He should be wiley coyote on site
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if he should ever think about even approaching a camera store.
Damn it, that sounds that's a pretty strong reaction. Did
he hit on your something? No he he he hit
the inner rem of the bowl with that deuce. He
dropped when he approached the X Men period.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He did some good work. He did not he is
a deuced dropper.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Didn't wait, didn't he have some decent movies like what
Pupil was a Pupil was good. Okay, hey, oh yeah, Pupil,
I'm talking about Superhero Fanfare just said, it's a director.
I'm not trying to callify look as a director because
of what he did.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The usual suspects. That was.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That was a production credit that he got, and that
was about it. And that's what made us all excited
about what he was going to do with the X Men.
And and he went in there and say, excuse me,
I have to use the restaurant real quick. He put
it right in the ball. I think that's just a
little bit excessive. I thought he was a fine he
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is He is not. He is not a fine director
at all. Is it possible to all of that? Maybe
you're kind of revising history a little bit because of
what we know about him now, No, no, no, no, no, no, Seriously,
I did not like the X films when they came out.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I did not like the black Clad X Men. I
did not like his treatment of the stories. I didn't
like anything he did.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I thought he was an affront to justice when it
came to superhero film.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Can I change my vote because he did Superman Returns exactly?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
If you don't, don't mark, don't because your credit.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, I have to change my vote because Superman Returns
was probably one of the worst movies ever.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I'm not going to defend it, but there are some
good things in it, like what bringing down the plane scene,
the bringing down the plane.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yes, and the baby brought down the plane. He struggled
with the plane, but then he can lift a continent.
It makes sense made of kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh so we want to get literal minded with superhero movies.
You have to stay within the guidelines of what you're
doing in your own film.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He set the rules and didn't follow them. If he
struggles with an empty aluminum framed plane, he's not going
to be able to lift a kryptonite continent while stabbed
with kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
If you read Superman comics, they're ridiculous. I don't want
to hear about reading the comics. He has not read
the comics. That is why he made such a bad
Superman film. Okay, I don't like being in the position
of defending him, or that you're defending I'm just saying record,
there's a little bit of good stuff on it, and
it's not a total code brown.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
That's it, is it? It is a it is a likely.
I can't say it because you shouldn't say it's a curse.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, I want to curse bad So it's okay. We
got to go to break as it is KFI AM
six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I I'm actually upset because I can't get to
the TV show I want to watch today because I
had to actually work. It dropped at six pm today.
What else was going on at six pm? Oh? Yeah,
the Joint Session of Congress and speech by President Trump.
I was trying to get in some Daredevil before I
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came on air today. I'll text you when I'm watching
it after I get home tonight. No, I can't watch
it tonight. That's the thing, because when I get home tonight,
let's say it's eleven o'clock. I got to be at
Spectrum News at five thirty tomorrow morning, because I'm doing
two hits with them at six o'clock at seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, you make your choices, your choices, I know, and
I will. I'll text you some spoilers as well.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's getting really good reviews, That's what I'm hearing. And
if you don't know, Daredevil is a Marvel property on
Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It used to be Netflix.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And the beautiful thing about the Daredevil's Marvel series is
that they kept some of the series that were Marvel
Netflix and they brought them over to Disney Plus. And
it's kind of confusing, but Netflix was producing some Marvel
characters shows Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, The Defenders, and also Daredevil, Punisher.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Iron Fist, iron Fish. I liked iron Fist, you do
really gosh? I like season two. I liked nothing about it.
It was marble. Why they canceled it? It was so good.
They canceled everything. They canceled the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Remember, but they brought back Daredevil and they're gonna bring
back like Punisher, I think it's some others.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, and they're gonna bring back everyone. I mean everyone's
coming back, not not the guy who played Iron Fist.
We don't know Danny ram with him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No. My point is the Netflix universe is now on
Disney Plus. Daredevil made in appearance in the latest Spider
Man movie, so he's fully asconced in the the MCU and.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, yeah, they were getting it in. Yeah yeah, he
blew her back out. Okay, that's a that's a tough
back to break. Well, he put in work, he did,
he did, he did.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So we know that Daredevil is very important to the
Marvel Cinematic universe. This show is very important to Disney Plus.
And they dropped two episodes and I won't be able
to get to them until tomorrow after I do my
TV hits.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Should I send you some screenshots with the text Oh
you can't. I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'm just gonna block you between down and then you
wouldn't dare Oh yes, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Heartbeat. Oh yeah, there's no absolute black.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I've got uh an hold on all texts coming in
from our NERD group. I saw one UH text message.
It said holy blank blank blank the blank blank the
blank blank, and I said, no more text messages from
this group.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, it turned off all the notifications, so I know
I'm not going to even look until maybe I don't
know what it is today Tuesdays, Wednesday afternoon, maybe Wednesday night. Yeah,
going to make sure I can get to it. But
I'm looking forward to it. And that's the beautiful thing
about streaming. There is something. I still have two episodes
I need to watch. I think two episodes now for Reacher.
I'm like behind on so much stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
You're not all the way got of a Reacher. I
haven't had time, Juncket. In a way, it's pretty satisfying.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, I kind of saw where you were going, though,
It's like, I can't believe we had to go home
at a certain time or has someone tape it so
you wouldn't miss your show, right, Well, that's one reason
why old time TV was never serialized. It was no
episodic because nobody's going to be home at the same
time every week.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's why they call it appointment watching.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you had reruns if you were lucky enough to
catch it on the second or third go round. Yeah,
we are very spoiled in today's age of technology. When
I grew up and I missed some of my favorite
TV shows, the best I could do before they invented
the VCR, you know Beta Max VHS. I used an
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audio recorder. I did that too, That's all we had.
It was the only thing available to approximate recording a
TV show. There was no way to record visual media.
You recorded how with an audio recorder. So just the audio,
it's like an audio play at that point. Yes, do
you just listen to it like an audio book or like? Yeah,
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but you know the characters, you know them by voices
and the physical sets you kind of can fill in
with your mind, Like if you're listening to an episode
of The Jeffersons, you know when they're in the living
room or in the kitchen, what have you. The Jeffersons
was when you recorded, No, it's actually that's my mama.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I recorded Battlestar Galactica. I think I might even still
have some of that's.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
A little more difficult because there's a lot more going
on in those shows.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
So did you progress from telling everybody in the room
to shut up because you were recording the TV to
actually making a technological dodad? Because I had my grandparents'
TV taken in and had a like a stereo plug
put into it.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It was hard, Like, for example, when I was in school,
I'd have music performances which were maybe around seven thirty
at night or so, and we leave around six sist
or something. So I had to start the recorder a
good forty five minutes in advance, and you get those
like super long tapes because we didn't have an automated
setting where you know, start the recording at seven thirty
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or seven o'bove or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
No fancy tvo, no not.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I just went back home and just like like fast
forwarded to that point. Yes, just press play and just
listen to their favorite All I could do this.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
All I could do there was, And as I got
more sophisticated with it, I ran the TV audio directly
to the recorder.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's what I was asking.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I ran it directly to It was an RCA
out jack into the recorder, and so it had a
little better sound quality, not much, but it was still better.
And yeah, if you know the characters, you know where
they are as far the sets. If you were to
were to record an episode of Three's Company, it all
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happens in their apartment for the most part.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
A baseball game, basketball game, even a football game, because
you just listen to the play by play and all that,
but you know the jokes, don't you know? Uh, missus
Fairley coming in with that wild outfit. It doesn't play
the same when you're.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Not not everything, but you you kind of know when
what was it, mister Roper when he says something, his
facial expression you could kind of fill in the blank,
you know, Fley, mister f I think was a.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, Miss Rubber, I'm sorry, miss Rubber, mister Fairley.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
You could not capture the magic of mister Furley's double
and triple takes on ando tape, but you could picture
it in the theater of the mind.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You did the best you could with what you had.
We didn't have VHS or beta, we didn't have a
VCR system. The only way that you recorded was just
the audio, and it was the best you could do
until that rerun would come around six seven weeks later
because they had twenty five frickin episodes.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Al I just missed it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I did not have the wherewithal to record the audio
like y'all geniuses.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, there was one time my sister recorded an episode
of a show for me because I was in the
hospital getting my tonsils out, so I was five years old.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
There is you just did what you could. We had
nothing back then. We were deprived. It was like living
through the Great Depression.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It was it was I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Not some baby. I'm just saying. I just did not
go through the whose lengths to record. That's why I'm
like wow, like I'm thinking us, I missed out on
a whole opportunity to keep up with to speed with stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, even though that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It was a thing because because there was no other
thing to do, the thing with the thing that was
important to us, that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I mean, I just did school to wait till stuff
come back on.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that was not an option when when your parents
teach it the school you attend, Ditching school is really
not an option. They kind of know where you're supposed
to be at all times. My parents, they were worse
than Facebook ads. They knew everything I said, They knew
everything I did, and they showed up at any given
moment anywhere. That was the worst in school where you're
(36:36):
remember how you could beat.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Your grades home? Yeah, okay, there was no such thing.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Way what my mother would walk down to the Administration
BI because she taught there, or my father, depending on
the school that I was that and just asked what
my grades were. They would know before I would. It
didn't matter if they put them in the mail. I
couldn't intercept them. Oh but I can say this. I
can say this because the statute of limitations has expired.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Here we go. It was.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
It was forty years ago because I was like a
junior high school.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
It was me, and I'll tell you who else. It
was Mike Griffith. We broke into the school computer database.
What and even before this was like maybe a year
after the movie War Game. So this was like eighty
four eighty five or something like that, changing grades and everything.
I never changed my grades. I can say that, Haan
(37:25):
to God. I never changed my grades because they were
good enough, Thank you very much. Okay, but we were
messing around, you know, three hundred bod modem to really
date ourselves. I ran the computer lab for one year
when I was in high school. I was that I
was at the you know, so you kind of had
like the keys to the castle.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Sure did?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Wow, sure did? And that concubines and everything. Yes, yeah,
what mind concubines? Yeah, because computer nerds are notorious for
all of that. Hey, we had some band groupies. Oh sure,
we had some. They weren't attractive, but we had some
fan droupies.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But they don't have flutes, have keyboards. Whether they do
with all that, is that a metaphor? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I wasn't What were you trying to say? K IF
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It's hard to keep track of everything that's going on. Luckily,
that's a little hobby of ours.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm here to tell you recalls, for the most part,
simply do not work. Recalls usually are a lazy effort
because you're lost an election. Well, your preferred candidate didn't win,
and now there's another recall effort. If you didn't hear
it during the news break with Mark Ronner, there is
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now an effort a foot to recall LA Mayor Karen Bass.
And if you know about the general steps needed for
a recall, you have to get thousands of signatures in
a certain amount of time. Then it has to be
scheduled for a special election, which is going to cost
millions and millions of dollars, and it's usually going to
be months and months out. Does anyone know what June two,
(00:50):
twenty twenty six is anyone?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Anyone? Bueler, Bueler.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's only fifteen months away, right, that's the next LA
mayoral election. Don't you think it probably would be more
prudent to concentrate on that than a recall effort, which
probably will not generate enough interest. That's even if you
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get enough signatures, and just to have another election, because
the election still doesn't go away, you still would have
to have the election on June two, twenty twenty six. It's,
I would say, a fool's errand because this next mayoral
election is even sooner than the gubernatorial election. We were
(01:39):
talking about the Gavini do some recall effort a couple
of weeks ago. But foes of Mayor Karen Bass have
formed a committee to raise money raise money for this
recall bit. And it doesn't matter to me whether the
people who are funding this are Republicans. For me, that's
neither here nor there. I'm just talking about the stud
(02:00):
of it. I'm just talking about the efficacy of it.
I'm just saying like you would probably be better served
in a political sense if you pushed all your cards
into the center for the actual election as opposed to
this recall effort. Now there, I understand how when you
have a recall effort, it's a way to damage that.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Mayor or that governor.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Where you have this steady campaign, all these ads of
all that the person has done wrong and why that
person shouldn't be in office, and that can be used
in the general campaign. I get all that. I'm just
saying in the history of LA only one Los Angeles
mayor has ever successfully been recalled, and that was in
(02:47):
nineteen thirty eight. That was a long time ago. And
it's not that people haven't been dissatisfied with LA mayor's
or California governors. It's just that the politics and elections
here in southern California especially are made in such a
way to discourage these many recall efforts. Rather you actually
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elect the person that you want as opposed to using
the recall as a way to subvert the election. It
seems like, now, well, so and so we didn't like
happen to win, we'll just recall them next year. How
many recall efforts have we had against Governor Gavin Newsom?
And this is not to exonerate or absolve anything that
Mayor Bass did or didn't do during the fires. I'm
(03:37):
just saying, if you are expecting a recall effort to
change an election that you didn't like, an outcome that
you didn't like, not only are you deceiving yourself, you're
also wasting a lot of money and a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
To that point, Gavin Newsom's last recall effort costs the
state some two hundred and fifteen million dollars just to
hold the last fail to tipt, not all the others,
just the last one two hundred and fifteen million, fraud.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Wasted abuse, froad wasted abuse.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But you know, we're supposedly about ridding our government of
wasteful spending or making sure our tax dollars are more
competently used. If you would like your tax dollars, or
if you just want to donate money to a cause
which is not going to yield the desired result, go
(04:38):
right ahead, as they say. It's a free country. You're
welcome to do it, but just go in eyes wide open.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Just know.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Let me just say it's not going to work. It's
not going to bring about the end of Karen Bass's career.
It's not going to bring down her mayoral bid. She's
running for a reelection. Odds are she will be reelected,
if only because the Democratic Party is probably not going
to run anyone against her, going to throw all if
(05:06):
it's weight behind her. And what have I been saying.
I've been saying for I don't know how long. Hey, Republicans,
where is your damn candidate? And don't tell me it's
Rick Caruso because he ran as a Democrat and he's
been helping Democrats. Now he might be quote unquote quasi Republican,
but the point I'm making is as a registered Democrat,
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he will never be fully embraced by the Democratic Party.
Never one. He's been speaking out against Karen Bass. He's
been working to undermine Karen Bass. He was the competition
to Karen Bass. So the party affiliation is going to
work against him, not help him. And I keep asking, twall,
how many years I've been asking when are the Republican
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Republicans going to field a serious.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Candidate for La mayor for the longest And it can't
be Angeline.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right with their billboard up on Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Dude, just can well don't rule that out? Please, well, no, no, no, no,
she may run again.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm just saying that's not going to be your best
foot forward. And I get the sense that Republicans are
now comfortable and content was saying La is horrible and
by the way, we're not going to put forward a
serious candidate. We want it both ways. I would love
to have competition of parties. I would love to have
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a strong Republican candidate come forward. But here's the problem.
If that person hasn't started coming forward now, they have
not started the process of developing those relationships, those constituencies,
those coalitions, what could help you in black and brown communities,
because let's remember Los Angeles is a majority minority city,
(06:50):
So you have to have those relationships. If you haven't
started developing those relationships and constituencies, they're not going to
come out and support you on June second, twenty twenty six.
You can't show up in twenty twenty six and ask
people for people's vote. They're gonna say, who the hell
are you? Why should I trust you? I don't know
who you are. I'm telling you how politics actually works.
(07:11):
You have to have these relationships. And if the only
people who are trying are the only people who are
trying to either maintain the relationships or field competent candidates
are the Democrats. Well, what are you complaining about? Oh,
it's on one party city, Yeah it is, but not
for the reasons that you're talking about. It's because you're not. Look,
(07:32):
I can ask you till the cows come home. Who's
the Republican candidate for mayor in twenty twenty six? You
can't tell me anyone. I don't want to hear about
the person who ran for state Assembly eight years ago.
It is a good guy or a good woman. No,
who is actually someone who has a profile large enough
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and known by enough Angelinos who could actually challenge to
become mayor? And the only way you can develop that
profile is to be out there now, right now.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
You have to be campaigning. Now. How do I know?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Because Mayor Bass has already said she's running for reelection
in twenty twenty six, She in effect has already started
her campaign for next year. And it doesn't matter how
incompetent you think she is, it doesn't matter how bad
you think that she handled the fire. If there's no
one running against her, she is going to win every
single time. And there's no one that you could email
(08:31):
me and tell me. There's no one that she could
hit me on Facebook and tell me. There's no one
that you can tell me on Instagram or threads. Tell
me who is a candidate for mayor representing the Republican
Party at this moment?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not a credible one, not a realistic one. And whose fault.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Is that you're gonna You're gonna blame people say Oh
my gosh, you know we got the government that we
voted for.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
You're damn right, because there's no other one to vote for.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You want to chain James Los Angeles, you have to
actually change the candidates.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And it's not just someone with an R next to
their name.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
We've got a lot of people run for governor with
an R next to their name, and they weren't serious.
They didn't have an actual campaign infrastructure, they didn't put
in the work to campaign up and down the state,
going to all the counties, and then they sit back, See,
c always vote for Democrats, and this is what we get.
I would love someone to prove me wrong, but I
(09:27):
know I'm not wrong about this. There is nobody out
there for the Republicans and that's not the Democrats fault.
That means that the Republicans have seeded Los Angeles and
they've conceded that they're not going to win, and then
they're going to sit back and say, look at the crime,
look at the trash, look at the graffiti, look at
(09:49):
the smashing grabs, look at this. It's all the Democrats fault.
And they won't even put one serious candidate forward for mayor.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Whose fault is that the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You're listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, I've been thinking I need to have I
need to hire someone who could just come in and
pat me on the back each and every day in
which I turn out to be right KFI AM six forty,
mister Kelly, in search of a back pattern. That's why
Stephen's here, We're live everyone. He's too far away. He
(10:31):
has to run the board. He's in a different studio.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You need the physical contact and not just the oral
the verbald.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I need someone. Thank you, Steffan. I'm glad that you're
participating in the program, and Mark Ronner isn't. I said,
I need someone to actually come in the studio and
pat me on the back, because I would have earned it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I deserve it.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Of course, remember that economic blackout, that boycott on just
February twenty eighth. I was telling you about remember that one,
and I gave you a litany of reasons why it
was not going to work.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Not that I was hoping against it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm saying it was ill fated, it was ill conceived,
it was ill planned.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
One of the companies which was supposed to be boycotted,
supposed to be, supposed to be planned to be didn't
be as they say, despite these calls, with US economic
blackout targeting major retailers on February twenty eight, last Friday,
early data has revealed that Amazon Amazon sales actually increased
(11:39):
during the blackout boycott period that Friday. According to analytics
from Momentum Commerce, Amazon's transactions rose one percent compared to
typical Friday patterns, suggesting the boycott had limited impact on Amazon.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I wonder why that is.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Maybe because we kept all talking about it and it
end up in everybody's algorithm and turned into advertisement for everyone,
including Amazon, because we're talking about you know how you
talk about something, it ends up on your phone in
terms of an ad.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
All this talk about Amazon and Target.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And Costo and just ended up in people's advertisements.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No proof to that, but there is proof that the
economic boycott did not have the intended impact. And I
say this because I want people to protest better. I
want people to be more successful with things which are
important to them, and they hope, they hope they can
affect change with their actions.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
And there's nothing wrong with being an activist.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There's nothing wrong with wanting to make change right where
you are, but there is something to be said for
smart change. There is said, there's something to be said
for the effective use of social capital. If you're trying
to get everyone together to do one thing, coordinated at
a certain time, you only have a number of opportunities
to do that.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
In other words, let's say you're going to.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Get a meeting together and you want everyone at your
job to meet at twelve o'clock on Friday. If you
messed that up the first or second time, good luck
the third time, because it seems like you're not serious
or you don't know what you're doing. A one day
economic boycott is BS. I was trying to be nice before.
(13:26):
Now I feel I have to be a nice or
less nice or semi nice. A one day economic boycott
is BS, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either
an idiot or is intentionally trying to mislead you.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
No, no, I don't know. Because targets web traffic was
down one percent, I'm sorry, but we're not talking about
web traffic.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
We're actually talking about transactions.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And also, if web traffic is down for a day,
it doesn't mean anything if the web traffic is back
up on Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Now, okay, okay, okay, okay. How about this though, Targets
in store foot traffic was down nine point five percent
on February twenty eighth compared to March first of last year.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And you know why that is because people have been
boycotting Target for almost six seven months now. Oh, which
has been my point. People have left Target in a
major way, not one day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Starbucks, though they were on the boycott list, and their
foot traffic was down three point two percent compared to
this time last year February twenty eighth, three point two Starbucks.
You know people love Starbucks. No, you have to show
me this time last year. Yeah, this time okay, Schwaller. No,
(15:00):
that's not helping. Yeah, okay, I'm just I mean, I'm trying.
I'm trying because you wanted some some statistical facts that
that maybe the boycotts we were working or something.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Walmart, you know how many people go to Walmart? No?
I don't know, okay, because you don't.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I understand that, but people do go, believe it or not,
I'm one of them. I didn't go on Friday because
I don't go shopping on Friday. That's just not what
I do. Here it comes, okay, here it comes. Walmart
foot traffic was down six point three percent on February
twenty eighth compared to the same Friday a year ago,
which is only down two point five percent.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What was it fort traffic last week? Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Oh last week? No, we're not talking about last week.
We're talking about last year. I mean last year.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
My point is, how can we say that that had
to do with the economic boycott or just inflation, or
it was just a down Friday. If you're pointed targeted
boycott of specific retailers, now there's a way you can't
find that out. Boycott them for six months. Oh, then
(16:16):
you will know your impact. What about a year like yeah,
the most successful boycott, the one that happened to Montgomery,
not a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Of kids know about it. That was two hundred and
eighty one day, So that was more than a year.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that probably would have more
of a pronounced impact because another analogy that I used.
You know, I'm trying to lose some weight. If I
diet tomorrow, probably not going to see a lot of results.
Or if I want a weightlift for one day, probably
not going to see a lot of results. I mean,
(16:49):
you understand where I'm going with this, right, You're actually
gonna have to show some commitment. Let's say I want
to be better with my oral hygiene. I probably have
to brush my teeth more than once in a month, right, Right,
I mean I don't think this is very hard. Let's
say you want to be a better pianist. You want
to play the piano, and you only practice say it
with me one day. You're not going to be very
(17:11):
good at it. You're not gonna have any real results
to show for it. Let's say you want to be
a radio host and all you do is practice one day.
If you want to be an NBA star, you practice
one day, You're not changing anything because it's the totality
(17:33):
of your actions, the consistency of your actions. If you
do it every day, you will see a legitimate impact.
Like for example, going back to the bus boycott. Let's
say we're boycotting the metro. All right, you usually use
the metro three times a week. What happens if you
don't use it once? Is anyone going to miss you financially, no, no,
(18:00):
stop using the Metro for a year and a half
and see what happens. You will see and everyone else
will see and notice your absence, financially, physically, everything. It
can't be one day because ultimately, if we looked at
the totality of numbers, because retailers look in quarters, they
(18:24):
don't look in days. If we look at the quarter,
most likely the people who didn't shop on Friday have
shopped since either on Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or today Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
What have you changed?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
You probably have given the same amount of money now
or by now that you didn't give on Friday, which
was a workday.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Who the hell shops on a Friday or workday?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
And if you didn't shop on Friday, it's probably more
convenient to do on a Saturday. Well that's when I
did my shopping. Okay, I'm sorry, Hello, thank you very much.
I need twalla keep you come on here and pat
me on the back way.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I'm not patting your back, I'm not. Let's hire someone.
Can we get an intern? Oh no, this is probably
that's no, there's rules against that. Careful, careful, I'd come
in and do it, but look at this mark. You
can give a stiff batpack what you could give a
stiff backpack or back pat. Yes, it would be it
(19:22):
would be a little on the rough side, but he
can handle it.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, some of us like it rough. Yeah. Damn it
was a long delay.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, sometimes it's good to wait for it. You didn't
make him wait as long. It's like tantric sex up
in here. You're the sting of KFI.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
You can hold me ton.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Okay, if I am six forty, we'll out everywhere in
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Stephan, what episode are you on with Paradise? I just
finished episode three? Okay, all right, it hurt your ass up,
I'm heard. I'm trying, man.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
They just had a season finale dropped today. Heard ut
I know.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I saw your guys's analysis of it, and I'm like, oh, man,
I can't wait. And then I kind of got with
Twalla was talking about yesterday about something that was taken,
and I'm like, oh, that's gonna get real good.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Oh, it gets real good.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I was saying yesterday, not that I dislike it usually
sets up disappointment. When you have a great penultimate episode,
it's almost like, what what can you do the top
that to end the season?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And you see it in a lot of different television series,
the next to the last episode is the best episode.
They have all the great reveals and action and paradise.
I would say is along those lines. I didn't dislike
the last episode. I just felt that it was more
a continuation of the events of episode seven, and it
would probably have been better if they just pushed those
(21:09):
two together and ended it there.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
So instead of making a whole other episode, just have
an extended ending episode.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, because episode eight is really just a continuation of
the events of seven. I mean, it's not like you're
telling a different portion of the story. It is continuing
the events of that particular day of episode seven. And
then you said it just bridged it basically for season two,
because we can say, yeah, set.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Up everything for season two.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
They left you to point where you realize where season
two is going to pick up and some of the
key events of season two, so it would have made
sense to just make that the finale. They should have
written it in a way where it's like you just
take guess I'm guessing what however, it ended on eight,
put it on seven, and then that would have been
like way to just go it to the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'm talking about storytelling.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Now, if you have promised eight episodes, you're going to
deliver eight episodes. You may separate them to make sure
you have eight episodes, But as far as the storytelling,
seven would have been fine.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
You just pushed seven and eight together. Mark, what say
you welcome to serialized television. That's true.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
You know, the seventh episode was so intense that you
weren't going to match that. And I don't know if
they had shot the whole thing up through episode eight
before they knew they were going to have a second season.
But mainly that's what episode eight does is set up
the second season and for it to open up without
spoiling anything and getting very specific, see as you did there, Well,
(22:43):
it's I found it pretty satisfying, and I would have
been just fine leaving things where they are, but there's
room to go still in this story before it wears out.
It's welcome.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I would have been very mad if they gave us
to eight episodes as they were presently, you know, laid
out up and then they said no second season. I've
been really mad, and that's part of the reason why
I'm usually I'm usually against watching television series in our
first season because I don't want to get emotionally attached
(23:14):
to something which is not going to be brought back.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, that's kind of how I approached Breaking Bad. I
got sick of everybody talking about it every week. But
the second the series was over and I knew I
could just chain watch it all, That's what I did.
I would say just based off it and the last
couple of episodes I watched to keep that intensity. You're right,
you can't go like season three, four five, And the
(23:38):
only comparison I can think of is dead to me.
You get to the third season and it's just as
good as the first, but it's like, if they would
have continued it, it would have just been awful.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
That's the only way I can compare. It's not the
same thing, but the way the story was told.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
It's one thing that I like about the show is
that it gets to feature some people who you've liked
in other things but have an always been front and
center in the cast sterlie K Brown obviously, but also
James Marsden, who you know, he kind of felt short
changed with him in the X Men movie since and
maybe even in West World.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
No, No, he was great.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I liked his part of Westworld, but you wanted to
see more of him and you never really did. And
so he was terrific in this and he's aging into
I think, a really interesting actor and not just a
pretty boy.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, he was woefully underutilized in X Men, and I'm
not saying that Scott Summers. The character left a lot
of room for great acting, but we never got to
see James Marston as an actor in that particular role,
which is a shame because that is such a complex character.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
The creators just didn't know what to do with it.
Brian Singer has no business directing superhero fanfare, much less movies.
He should be banned from any lot. He should even
pass by his car much should be deactivated even driving
by a studio. He should be wiley coyote on site
(25:08):
if he should ever think about even approaching a camera store.
Damn it, that sounds that's a pretty strong reaction. Did
he hit on your something? No he he he hit
the inner rem of the bowl with that deuce. He
dropped when he approached the X Men period.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
He did some good work. He did not he is
a deuced dropper.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Didn't wait, didn't he have some decent movies like what
Pupil was a Pupil was good. Okay, hey, oh yeah, Pupil,
I'm talking about Superhero Fanfare just said, it's a director.
I'm not trying to callify look as a director because
of what he did.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
The usual suspects. That was.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That was a production credit that he got, and that
was about it. And that's what made us all excited
about what he was going to do with the X Men.
And and he went in there and say, excuse me,
I have to use the restaurant real quick. He put
it right in the ball. I think that's just a
little bit excessive. I thought he was a fine he
(26:12):
is He is not. He is not a fine director
at all. Is it possible to all of that? Maybe
you're kind of revising history a little bit because of
what we know about him now, No, no, no, no, no, no, Seriously,
I did not like the X films when they came out.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I did not like the black Clad X Men. I
did not like his treatment of the stories. I didn't
like anything he did.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I thought he was an affront to justice when it
came to superhero film.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Can I change my vote because he did Superman Returns exactly?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
If you don't, don't mark, don't because your credit.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, I have to change my vote because Superman Returns
was probably one of the worst movies ever.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I'm not going to defend it, but there are some
good things in it, like what bringing down the plane scene,
the bringing down the plane.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yes, and the baby brought down the plane. He struggled
with the plane, but then he can lift a continent.
It makes sense made of kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Oh so we want to get literal minded with superhero movies.
You have to stay within the guidelines of what you're
doing in your own film.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
He set the rules and didn't follow them. If he
struggles with an empty aluminum framed plane, he's not going
to be able to lift a kryptonite continent while stabbed
with kryptonite.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
If you read Superman comics, they're ridiculous. I don't want
to hear about reading the comics. He has not read
the comics. That is why he made such a bad
Superman film. Okay, I don't like being in the position
of defending him, or that you're defending I'm just saying record,
there's a little bit of good stuff on it, and
it's not a total code brown.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
That's it, is it? It is a it is a likely.
I can't say it because you shouldn't say it's a curse.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, I want to curse bad So it's okay. We
got to go to break as it is KFI AM
six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I I'm actually upset because I can't get to
the TV show I want to watch today because I
had to actually work. It dropped at six pm today.
What else was going on at six pm? Oh? Yeah,
the Joint Session of Congress and speech by President Trump.
I was trying to get in some Daredevil before I
(28:33):
came on air today. I'll text you when I'm watching
it after I get home tonight. No, I can't watch
it tonight. That's the thing, because when I get home tonight,
let's say it's eleven o'clock. I got to be at
Spectrum News at five thirty tomorrow morning, because I'm doing
two hits with them at six o'clock at seven o'clock.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, you make your choices, your choices, I know, and
I will. I'll text you some spoilers as well.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's getting really good reviews, That's what I'm hearing. And
if you don't know, Daredevil is a Marvel property on
Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
It used to be Netflix.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And the beautiful thing about the Daredevil's Marvel series is
that they kept some of the series that were Marvel
Netflix and they brought them over to Disney Plus. And
it's kind of confusing, but Netflix was producing some Marvel
characters shows Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, The Defenders, and also Daredevil, Punisher.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Iron Fist, iron Fish. I liked iron Fist, you do
really gosh? I like season two. I liked nothing about it.
It was marble. Why they canceled it? It was so good.
They canceled everything. They canceled the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Remember, but they brought back Daredevil and they're gonna bring
back like Punisher, I think it's some others.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, and they're gonna bring back everyone. I mean everyone's
coming back, not not the guy who played Iron Fist.
We don't know Danny ram with him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
No. My point is the Netflix universe is now on
Disney Plus. Daredevil made in appearance in the latest Spider
Man movie, so he's fully asconced in the the MCU and.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah, yeah, they were getting it in. Yeah yeah, he
blew her back out. Okay, that's a that's a tough
back to break. Well, he put in work, he did,
he did, he did.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So we know that Daredevil is very important to the
Marvel Cinematic universe. This show is very important to Disney Plus.
And they dropped two episodes and I won't be able
to get to them until tomorrow after I do my
TV hits.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Should I send you some screenshots with the text Oh
you can't. I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I'm just gonna block you between down and then you
wouldn't dare Oh yes, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Heartbeat. Oh yeah, there's no absolute black.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I've got uh an hold on all texts coming in
from our NERD group. I saw one UH text message.
It said holy blank blank blank the blank blank the
blank blank, and I said, no more text messages from
this group.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, it turned off all the notifications, so I know
I'm not going to even look until maybe I don't
know what it is today Tuesdays, Wednesday afternoon, maybe Wednesday night. Yeah,
going to make sure I can get to it. But
I'm looking forward to it. And that's the beautiful thing
about streaming. There is something. I still have two episodes
I need to watch. I think two episodes now for Reacher.
I'm like behind on so much stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
You're not all the way got of a Reacher. I
haven't had time, Juncket. In a way, it's pretty satisfying.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Yeah, I kind of saw where you were going, though,
It's like, I can't believe we had to go home
at a certain time or has someone tape it so
you wouldn't miss your show, right, Well, that's one reason
why old time TV was never serialized. It was no
episodic because nobody's going to be home at the same
time every week.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's why they call it appointment watching.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And you had reruns if you were lucky enough to
catch it on the second or third go round. Yeah,
we are very spoiled in today's age of technology. When
I grew up and I missed some of my favorite
TV shows, the best I could do before they invented
the VCR, you know Beta Max VHS. I used an
(32:14):
audio recorder. I did that too, That's all we had.
It was the only thing available to approximate recording a
TV show. There was no way to record visual media.
You recorded how with an audio recorder. So just the audio,
it's like an audio play at that point. Yes, do
you just listen to it like an audio book or like? Yeah,
(32:35):
but you know the characters, you know them by voices
and the physical sets you kind of can fill in
with your mind, Like if you're listening to an episode
of The Jeffersons, you know when they're in the living
room or in the kitchen, what have you. The Jeffersons
was when you recorded, No, it's actually that's my mama.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
I recorded Battlestar Galactica. I think I might even still
have some of that's.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
A little more difficult because there's a lot more going
on in those shows.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
So did you progress from telling everybody in the room
to shut up because you were recording the TV to
actually making a technological dodad? Because I had my grandparents'
TV taken in and had a like a stereo plug
put into it.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It was hard, Like, for example, when I was in school,
I'd have music performances which were maybe around seven thirty
at night or so, and we leave around six sist
or something. So I had to start the recorder a
good forty five minutes in advance, and you get those
like super long tapes because we didn't have an automated
setting where you know, start the recording at seven thirty
(33:36):
or seven o'bove or whatever.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
No fancy tvo, no not.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I just went back home and just like like fast
forwarded to that point. Yes, just press play and just
listen to their favorite All I could do this.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
All I could do there was, And as I got
more sophisticated with it, I ran the TV audio directly
to the recorder.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That's what I was asking.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, I ran it directly to It was an RCA
out jack into the recorder, and so it had a
little better sound quality, not much, but it was still better.
And yeah, if you know the characters, you know where
they are as far the sets. If you were to
were to record an episode of Three's Company, it all
(34:18):
happens in their apartment for the most part.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
A baseball game, basketball game, even a football game, because
you just listen to the play by play and all that,
but you know the jokes, don't you know? Uh, missus
Fairley coming in with that wild outfit. It doesn't play
the same when you're.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Not not everything, but you you kind of know when
what was it, mister Roper when he says something, his
facial expression you could kind of fill in the blank,
you know, Fley, mister f I think was a.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah, Miss Rubber, I'm sorry, miss Rubber, mister Fairley.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
You could not capture the magic of mister Furley's double
and triple takes on ando tape, but you could picture
it in the theater of the mind.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You did the best you could with what you had.
We didn't have VHS or beta, we didn't have a
VCR system. The only way that you recorded was just
the audio, and it was the best you could do
until that rerun would come around six seven weeks later
because they had twenty five frickin episodes.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Al I just missed it.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
I did not have the wherewithal to record the audio
like y'all geniuses.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, there was one time my sister recorded an episode
of a show for me because I was in the
hospital getting my tonsils out, so I was five years old.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
There is you just did what you could. We had
nothing back then. We were deprived. It was like living
through the Great Depression.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
It was it was I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Not some baby. I'm just saying. I just did not
go through the whose lengths to record. That's why I'm
like wow, like I'm thinking us, I missed out on
a whole opportunity to keep up with to speed with stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, even though that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
It was a thing because because there was no other
thing to do, the thing with the thing that was
important to us, that was the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I mean, I just did school to wait till stuff
come back on.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that was not an option when when your parents
teach it the school you attend, Ditching school is really
not an option. They kind of know where you're supposed
to be at all times. My parents, they were worse
than Facebook ads. They knew everything I said, They knew
everything I did, and they showed up at any given
moment anywhere. That was the worst in school where you're
(36:36):
remember how you could beat.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Your grades home? Yeah, okay, there was no such thing.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Way what my mother would walk down to the Administration
BI because she taught there, or my father, depending on
the school that I was that and just asked what
my grades were. They would know before I would. It
didn't matter if they put them in the mail. I
couldn't intercept them. Oh but I can say this. I
can say this because the statute of limitations has expired.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Here we go. It was.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
It was forty years ago because I was like a
junior high school.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
It was me, and I'll tell you who else. It
was Mike Griffith. We broke into the school computer database.
What and even before this was like maybe a year
after the movie War Game. So this was like eighty
four eighty five or something like that, changing grades and everything.
I never changed my grades. I can say that, Haan
(37:25):
to God. I never changed my grades because they were
good enough, Thank you very much. Okay, but we were
messing around, you know, three hundred bod modem to really
date ourselves. I ran the computer lab for one year
when I was in high school. I was that I
was at the you know, so you kind of had
like the keys to the castle.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Sure did?
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Wow, sure did? And that concubines and everything. Yes, yeah,
what mind concubines? Yeah, because computer nerds are notorious for
all of that. Hey, we had some band groupies. Oh sure,
we had some. They weren't attractive, but we had some
fan droupies.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
But they don't have flutes, have keyboards. Whether they do
with all that, is that a metaphor? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
I wasn't What were you trying to say? K IF
I am six forty. We're allied everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
It's hard to keep track of everything that's going on. Luckily,
that's a little hobby of ours.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
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Speaker 4 (38:22):
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