April 1, 2025 • 35 mins
ICYMI: Hour Three of 'Later, with Mo'Kelly' presents an in-depth conversation with actor Titus Welliver, who joins the program to preview the 3rd and final season of 'Bosch: Legacy.' Spinning off from 'Bosch,' the longest-running franchise on Prime Video, in 'Bosch: Legacy,' Welliver stars as Harry Bosch, the tough and damaged retired LAPD detective turned private investigator. Based on the popular book series by bestselling author Michael Connelly, Bosch is on "One Final Case, One Final Fight, One Final Season," with two new episodes dropping every Thursday until the finale on April 17th…PLUS – A look at what local theaters need to do to survive the box-office lull – on KFI AM 640…Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
School leader with Okay six.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh man man down to change.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's about good day coming around.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's been like a cool ran coming down. Sax again,
sauce again, down the changer, this moment.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Changer.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Detective Harry Bosh has moved on from the l A
p D and is now working as a private investigator.
That's where we find Bosh at the start of Bosh Legacy,
now in its third and final season, and in this season,
his daughter and now LAPD officer in her own right, Maddie,
is investigating a slew of follow.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Home robberies and abductions.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And speaking of abductions, Maddie's abductor in the previous season,
Doc Waller has been murdered while in prison and all
signs point back to Harry Bosh as the person who
ordered the hit. Honey Chandler is running for La DA
and a target for assassination, and believe it or not,
the intrigue and drama increase from there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just heard a story about my dad about his
time in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It was war.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We're crying more like she's caught me wondering what other
secrets does he have? We really want to know. Bosh
has crossed a lot of lines in his long and
checkered career with murder, you honestly think he would decide
up a prison in to murder the scumbag wobductor Madeline.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was my daughter, had skin of my life.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Justice will be done one way or another.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I need not tell you, but I'm going to tell
you anyway. The star of all things Harry Bosh is
none other than Titus Welliver, who joins me now on
the show. Titus Welliver, in honor and privilege to have
you on. How are you this evening?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I'm very well, Thank you, Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think it's fair to say that the character of
Harry Bosh and you, Titus Welliver the actor, are inseparable.
What has Harry Bosh meant in your life and career?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well, I will say that it's a deeply nuanced and
complex character. That is what every actor dreams of having.
Right do you want something that's going to challenge you,
that you can grow with? And Harry Bosh certainly has
has been that character. I think Harry and I I mean,
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you know, the source material is impeccable. Michael's books, the
creator Michael Connolly of Harry Bosh and we didn't have
to get goofy and try to change things to make
it you know, or you know, sex it up, put
him in a Ferrari and have him run around like
James Bond cut in the Fool. You know, he's a
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he has a great depth to him, and he's an antihero,
so he's very human. He's flawed, he has his his things,
and that's what I think is very appealing with audiences,
and he's a very human character.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Let me stay right there, talk more about that complexity.
What do you think is most misunderstood or least understood
with Harry Bosch? Is it his inner demons? Is it
a case that he can't seem to solve. Is it
protection of his daughter Maddie? What is it that drives him?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I think they're I think they're all components the things
that you just cited. But at the core of the show,
I think what we what we discovered was that was
Harry's relationship with Maddie. You know that he didn't She
was very little when Harry and Eleanor divorced and they
become reacquainted when she's thirteen, years old, and that became
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very central because what it meant was that Harry was
no longer a lone or you know, not a lone wolf.
He wasn't on his own. He now had his daughter
in his life. And Michael Connolly really said it so clearly,
which was Harry can be gotten to now he has
an achilles heel and his achilles Heel as his daughter.
But that also allowed us to look Harry's never going
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to be a warm and fuzzy guy, but it allowed
us to take certain layers off so that Harry would
only expose himself to a certain degree in his vulnerability
to Maddie, but his expression of love for her, his tenderness,
his kindness is very very palpable. And that was something
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that I was deeply protective of, was the nature of
that relationship. I did not want it to be contrived
or in any way cliche.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know that everything was was roses with them. They disagree,
they fight, they they have you know, a real depth
to their relationship. But that also softened him to a
certain degree, but not in the way that he still
pursues justice. He's still that same guy and he carries
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a lot of internal baggage because he's not an emotionally
demonstrative guy, right, he's you know, you would He started
out very taciturn. You know, silence and rage were kind
of his two expressions of emotion, but that became more
more nuanced to a certain degree too.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He does.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
He carries a lot, a lot of a lot of driving.
There's a there's a lot out of a sense of
innate sadness with Harry. He carries a tremendous amount, and
I think that's what also makes him appealing to audiences.
They see a guy who is very capable, he's very brave,
he's capable of heroic deeds, but he doesn't come out
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wearing you know, some cliche, you know, white cowboy hat,
like I'm the good guy, just so everybody knows, you know,
he's a he's a beige guy.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He's a gray guy. You know, he's not He's not
one or the other.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
But he's incorruptible and he has he has a flawless
moral compass. But he doesn't suffer fools, nor does he
tolerate bureaucracy or political machinations getting in the way of
him obtaining justice.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What brings you out see how you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So far, so good.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I go. I know you ain't been waiting here all night.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just to welcome me back.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What's the word in Moasco?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Theaytied dot waller to nobody, just rooms, unsolved rumors anybody
I know, not me, not you. Look, I can't buy
you a beer go tonight. I'll just mosey on home.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Keep in touch, hear me. You won't regret what you're
doing for me. You're in the world now, keep it
that way.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
My guest right now is Titus Welliver Harry Bosh himself.
We're talking about the third and final season of Bosh Legacy,
now streaming on Amazon Prime. Episodes drop every Thursday, and
I'm here to tell you if this is the last Bosh,
it just might be the best. More with Titus Welliver
on the other side of the break.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kelly one, Kay.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
And six.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, thanks for lunch. We should do this more often.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know, I know, it's just work.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You know, I do what's on your mind.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
There's just there's just all these rumors on the grapevine
about what happens stop gossip.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's worse than a school yard ignored.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just turned out you know how Doc Whiler was
killed and who actually killed him? And okay, listen, I
would have if I could have, If that answers your question,
But I did. I told you the day boarders called.
I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know, and I believed you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then in now Kurt, Docwiler had a target on his back.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The minute those prison doors clang shut and they threw
away the key. You can hear it tinging down the
storm drained pipe splashing in the sewer.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Gross, that's a poetic How long did it take you
to come up with that?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
One?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Just came up with that? Be good, be good, good
hunting tonight es be safe.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I well, I'm right in the middle of speaking with
the star of Amazon Primes hit series Bosh Legacy, mister
Titus Wellever. Bosh Legacy is in its third and final season.
Episodes drop each Thursday, and Titus is interesting. We talked
about Maddie who eventually became a member of LAPD, and
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you talk about Harry Bosh, who has an incorruptible moral code.
I think that sets up season three Bosh Legacy now underway.
Honey Chandler played by Mimi Rodgers, is running for Elie
County DA. Maddie is knee deep in investigating these follow
home robberies and danger of bounds talking about that incorruptible
moral code. Well, Harry Bosh might be someone who's involved
(09:51):
with Maddie's abductor being murdered in prison. What else is
that play for season three of Bosh Legacy.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Well, with that, you know it takes place eight months
after Maddie's intercepted that call from the prison system where
Preston Borders says, I took care of that thing for
your father, implicating Harry in the You know that he
somehow enlisted the aid of Borders to kill Dockweiler, who
abducted Mattie. Other than his wife, the only calls Borders
(10:22):
made with his prison burner went to another burner in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
How do you know that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Using the data obtained by search warrant from the burner phone,
we can determine which cell tower was closest to the
phone receiving the incoming call.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Okay, so which cell tower is it?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, this particular tower is located in the Hollywood Hills
above Sunset Plaza.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So who's getting these mystery calls?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Where is this Hollywood Hills, Yes, sir, who do we
know lives in that neighborhood, Harry Bosh.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And so then there's an investigation, which is called a
Chief Special where they say, you know, look into this,
but it's guy, it's on the it's on the QT,
it's on the down low in the in a big way.
And then Maddie hears a story from one of Harry's
fellow operators from his days in Special Forces about an
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experience in Afghanistan, and it sheds the light a different light,
and so she suddenly kind of goes, I may not
know my father to the to the extent that I
think that I know him, And that creates an imbalance
in their relationship, whereas they say in Star Wars, there's
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a disturbance in the force, right, And so it creates
some interesting drama. And she's got her hands full with these,
with these follow home robberies.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's got a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And Harry is very, very engrossed and myopic as he
always is, but even more so with this case with
this missing family, because it involves children. It's taken from
the book Desert Star, which is one of the books
that we used as a source material for this season.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
That takes Harry into a very very very dark place.
So there's stuff that's happening simultaneously, and we as the audience,
will witness Harry really looking into the abyss, probably.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
More so than he ever has.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
And when you know, like Harry says, when you look
into the abyss, when you look into the darkness, some
of it looks back at you and can penetrate you.
And so I think we find Harry in a very
very dark place. But he's relentless, right, He's not playing around.
And because there children are involved, you know, I always
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say the older that Harry gets, the more formidable he comes,
because the you know, with age brings a certain level
of aulnerability. But in Harry's case, that's kind of he
becomes like a cornered animal, right, He kind of he
resorts to his primordial instincts. It just makes him very
very dangerous.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
My time with you is running short, mister Welliver, so
let me ask you this. You've likely been asked this before.
I know you couldn't have foreseen that Bosh would turn
into a universe where you'd have different series and spinoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But here we are.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I have to know, and I know you've probably been
asked this, but not by me. When are we going
to see Harry Bosh Hoeronymous Bosh hit the big screen.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I don't know, and I you know, it's Hollywood, so
I say never, say never. A lot of people ask
me that is this truly the final season? There's a
petition out there, et cetera, et cetera. And by the way,
I just want to express my gratitude for the fans
because this show would not have been on for a
decade where it not for the incredible dedication, the love
and support of the fans.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Over the years.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And I'm truly eternally grateful for that. Look, you never know,
and if the I know, everybody involved, if there was
a knock on the door and somebody said, you guys
want to come back, we'd be in that boshmobiles so
fast their head would spend.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Bosh Legacy Season three, the final season, is now streaming
on Amazon Prime, new episodes dropping each Thursday. I'd like
to thank my guest mister Titus welliverer for coming on
this evening.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I love the series and I'll be right there with
you if and when the Bosh movie comes to pass.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well if, thank you, you have a blessed evening, and
thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
As I look at the box office for this week,
streaming is becoming a larger and larger piece of what
we watch every single day of every single week, to
the point where, and we talked about it before, I
think the larger communities finally getting around to it. How
the box office picture is so bleak, and that's to
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quote the Los Angeles Times, and how local theaters are
barely surviving, if at all, something that we have talked about.
How love it or hate it? The Disney Company, for example,
they have the most big box office movies which are
being offered from week to week. Oh I don't want
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to see snow White. Well, we'll talk about it tomorrow
at eight o'clock. Why Snow White financially failed as a movie.
I've had varying opinions about people who've actually seen it
I haven't seen it, but we'll talk tomorrow about some
of the factors which went into why it did not
succeed financially. But when those movies don't succeed, there is
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a domino effect and you have local theaters. I'm not
talking about the big chains. I'm not talking about AMC,
I'm not talking about Regal or Edwards Cinema, not even
talking about ArcLight.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm talking about the mom and pop spots and talk.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
About the one offs which are still family owned, which
need to have business Monday through Sunday if they're going
to actually stay open, not just a Friday and a
Saturday night, and because those Friday and Saturday nights are
not enough for them to remain in business all week long.
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And if the big movies which are not bringing in
the people, and the big movies are not staying in
theater as far as long, then these theaters.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Just can't survive.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And I keep trying to tell people you may not
like Disney, but you better root for Disney or your
favorite local theater will be going out of business. And
we look at the box office returns for this week.
I mentioned snow White. Snow White came in at second,
grossing fourteen point three million, and it's total growth so
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far is one hundred and forty two million, sixty six domestic,
seventy five international, well below expectations, well below projections, and
we'll talk more about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The number one movie this weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We talked with its director last week, David Ayir, his
movie A working Man, starring Jason Statham. It brought in
fifteen point five million domestically, sixteen point six million internationally
for I would say a respectable thirty two million against
the budget. I don't know what it was, but it
was not a big budget. Had to have been less
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than one hundred million. It was forty forty Okay, so
it's going to make all of this budget back in
a week and a half.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Snow White costs two hundred plus, not including the marketing
and promotion.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, so yeah, A Workingman good enough start to get
number one. Number three this week was the Chosen Last Supper.
Do you know this movie?
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No, I don't know. If it's a horror movie is there?
Is it a religious movie? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean it could be both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It
grows to eleven point seven million. I have to look
it up. I honestly don't know. Yeah, number four, The
Woman in the Yard.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Ay, I don't even like looking at that trailer.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
I was curious about that. I still need to see
this spooky man.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Let me take you inside the numbers.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
So, but this highlights the point that we were making
both The Chosen and The Chosen was only in twenty
four hundred and seventy eight theaters. That's a little more
than half of the available theaters. And you have The
Woman in the Yard was only in twenty eight hundred
and forty two theaters. That's not a lot of theaters
when you're talking big picture, which means a lot of
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theaters chose not to offer it, or it was incongruous
with their you know where they were in the country,
and they don't show certain types of movies. R rated
movies or sexualized movies. It's very hard for these movie
theaters to stay in business. And those are quote unquote
top five movies, not bringing in a lot of money,
not in a lot of theaters.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And mark your favorite.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Death of a Unicorn came in at number five, how
much five point seven million, five point seven million.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's not a great first week. No, that's too bad.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I mean, the movie's not great, but it's got great
people in it, so that's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And after that, there's nothing really to talk about. Captain
America Bravedey World came in at number seven. It's still
hanging around the top ten because the other nine movies
are relatively weak. It's crossed over four hundred and nine
million dollars worldwide. It some will argue that it underperformed,
but it's still a respectable total. It's still the highest
grossing movie of the year carrying us into the summer months.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's not a small amount of money. I mean not
at all.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
It had a massive budget, but what other movies are
making four hundred million bucks? But see for Marvel it
had quite possibly one of the smallest budgets of any
big budget Marvel release, at one hundred and eighty million.
That's the a budget yet and it's still outperformed its predecessor,
being the first Captain America, first Avenger film.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So and let's say they put another two hundred and
fifty million of marketing and promotion on top of that,
it's still respectable. Yeah, yeah, And these days it's better
than most of the movies out there. Again, that goes
back to the whole Disney Marvel thing. You can hate
on then if you want, but you can't also cry
about movie theaters closing.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
Yeah, and this is gonna be a great conversation for
tomorrow because there's so many thoughts that go into snow
White's failing having nothing to do with the movie. And
I know several people who saw it, So tomorrow eight o'clock,
do not miss this conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, we're going to go in and talk about all
the elephants plural in the room, the social media conversations,
what they got right, what they got wrong, the people
who are hating on it, who never saw it, who
had no point of reference, the public statements made by
the actors, whether that figured into the equation as well,
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or live action movies are just not all that popular
by and large, some of it some haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But we'll get into all that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I for me, I'm not the intended audience, so I
really don't feel one way or the other.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
For what it's worth, the highest grossing movies of the
year so far are Disney Marvel movies.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Well so the.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Top two for as much as people throw shade at
them right now. They're the ones that are making most
of the money that are keeping the theaters alive.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah yeah, And if they underperform, they're making it much
more difficult for these movies of movie theaters to stay
in business.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, there's a correlation here. You know.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
If these other movies do not succeed going through the
big tent pole box office movies going into the summer,
you will see these movie theaters close before the end
of the calendar year.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Last year, Disney closed out the year with the biggest
film of the year with Mowana Too at what just
over a billion?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Just over a billion?
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Yeah, but that still, that's a film that got relatively
light marketing and promotion. The audience just ran out and
sent them a score. And all the different outlets who
rank what film companies and who did what for Hollywood,
Disney is coming back as thank you, thank you, thank
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you for putting out films that are putting butts in
theaters big and small, big and small, the mom and
pops and the big theaters without a company like that. Look,
maybe maybe this is a concerted effort to just do
away with Hollywood, maybe have us all at the house.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But damn man, well this could be Hollywood without businesses,
do we not? No, it's gonna be Hollywood one way
or the other. Now, Whether we will actually continue to
go to a physical brick and mortar theater in the
future in the way that we used to pre pandemic
that time is not ever coming back. Whether we will
go with any frequency, that is still an open question.
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But we know mathematically there are fewer films in theaters.
We know that just fewer releases, and we know that
they are staying in physical theaters for a shorter amount
of time. We know that there are just movies which
are in fewer theaters that are being released. Fewer movies,
fewer movies in theaters. They're not staying as long in theaters.
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Movie theaters are not staying open all seven days anymore.
I look at a lot of theaters I used to
go to, the mom and pop ones, the ones that
were hidden away that I thought was a gym. They're
not open seven days a week anymore. They're open like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Because Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday don't make financial sense. Where you're
gonna pay people to do the popcorn and tear the
tickets and run the projectors whatever it is the machinery
they use now and only have five people to the theater,
one of them be Mark Ronner every three months. Yeah,
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literally were like five people in the theater with you
right well, at the Death of Unicorn screening, I went
to Friday.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
There were two others and they were talking at full volume. Okay,
so more than two.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Yeah, this raise is actually an interesting question because Conway
mentioned it earlier. Some theaters are looking at starting to
allow people to smoke weed in the theaters and openly
text in the theaters and stuff like that to make
it so it's more of a social experience.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. For every person you gain, you're gonna lose one.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I promise you that I am not going to go
into a theater, especially if you talk about maybe there
might be kids and smell that pungent smell of weed. No,
and if you're gonna talk antext well, I'm might as
well just stay home. There is really no reason to
spend twenty dollars a ticket and have to put up
with that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I will not silly concept. Somebody wrote an article.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
It's something that they are considering with all of the
major theater groups AMC, REGAL. They're all looking at options
on ways because they can see what's happening down the line.
The industry is dropping, so they're looking at whatever options
that they can find.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I get the.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Desperation, and I get you know, all ideas good and
bad are on the table. That's just one of the
bad ideas, which is not going to push you any
closer to where you want to be.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
The cure is worse than the disease for that one, Yeah,
I'm not sure which is worse. I mean, I guess
I wouldn't mind the smell of weed as much as
I would people texting in the movie. I mean, it
already drives me nearly to homicide when I see people
with their phones on. And a week before last somebody
was having a full volume phone conversation in the theater.
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And it's already you're doing the cost benefit analysis way
too much already when you go to a theater, like
is it worth everything I'm paying? Knowing how annoyed I'm
gonna get at all the other filthy animals there.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
The experience in the theater has to be better than
the experience at home. And since because of streaming, if
you can just wait twenty twenty one days that movie,
even if you still have to pay to rent it
at home, it still will cost less. Talk about the
cost benefit analysis, it will still cost less than purchasing
two tickets and condiments or what at parking in gas
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to go actually see that movie in the theater.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I will gladly wait three weeks.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Glad it's if you go to a movie, it's a
half a day commitment driving there, parking all of it,
and if it's going to be annoying, you are far
less likely to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And also, I do most of my streaming watching late
at night. It fits my schedule. I can watch it
twelve midnight and not have to worry about falling asleep
or whatever. And if I do so what, I'll wake
up in the morning and finish it.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
It's hard to be to sleep next to me in
half the movies we've been to, snoring, falling asleep and snort.
That's not that's that's because I'm proof proof of Stefan,
not me. We were sitting right next to each other.
It was that was rough, Mom, that was rough. You
were calling them dogs.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Man.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Look, I'm here to tell you that a person's testimony
is the most unreliable form of evidence, and that's a
hard proceeding firsthand witness testimony.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
This is not hearsay. You were right there.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You were either right.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
You were either snoring or you snuck a barnyard animal
in with you and that was making the sound.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I rebuke the.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's Later with Kelly when we come back, when I'm
checking with George Norri and also have my final thought.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Can't i AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's check out
Coast to Coast AM. What's coming up on that show
with George Nori? George, how are you sir?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Great show, Ma, I'm great.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
We're going to talk about magic, the soul's purpose.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We're going to have some fun on.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
If you're not having fun, then nobody listening can have fun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's a good point gave you credit.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I didn't even know it to say, thank you, George, welcome,
bye George.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
See from my final thought tonight, I really, I really
was unsure what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I really really was unsure.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Sometimes I want to talk about politics, some things I
want to talk about cultural, social issues, whatever happens to
be on my mind, and I try not to talk
about the thing, the thing that everyone else is talking
about unless unless I feel I can give you something
that nobody else can, will offer you, something that you've
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not heard elsewhere. And tonight I believe it's one of
those nights. I'm actually going to make a bat with
you that what I'm about to tell you tonight you
haven't heard elsewhere, and if you have, I'll just deny
that you actually heard it elsewhere. But I've heard it,
You've heard it, We've all heard it. President Trump fancies
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a third term, and he says he's not joking about
pursuing it, and I believe him. I absolutely believe him,
and you should too. Number One, Donald Trump doesn't have
a sense of humor, So when he says he's not joking.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That's like Tuesday. Everything he says is not a joke.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And let me be clear, he doesn't have a sense
of humor because he doesn't know what humor is. He
loves to insult people, and you should not confuse insulting
people all the time and you finding the insults funny
as having a sense of humor. He doesn't joke. He
doesn't know what self deprecation is. So when he says
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that he's going to pursue a third term, regardless of
whether he says he's joking, regardless of what the Constitution
says to the contrary.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He means it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And so when we assess it, when we talk about it,
we should take him at his word. A number of
journalists have asked the president directly to him, and those
close to him asked him about exactly how he's planning
to go about pursuing this third term, to which no
specifics are given, just vague comments about quote unquote, we're
(30:49):
working on.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It, that's all they say. I was listening to Steve Bannon,
heard some comments from him. We're working on it. Let
me clear up all the mystery.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I've been really digging
into this and talking to my constitutional scholar friends about this,
so it's based in some actual knowledge, and I'm pretty
sure I know what the Trump team is planning to
do at the end of this term. So hopefully we'll
have this on the podcast. Sam will put it in
the podcast so we can refer back to this, because
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I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, and I'm pretty
sure you haven't heard this from anyone else, and I'm
kind of surprised because there are only so many attack
points to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What most people say is you.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Can't become a president for the third time, specifically because
of the twenty second Amendment. In fact, we heard it
in the news break. That's the audio that you hear
the twenty second Amendment. Here's how the twenty second Amendment reads.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
No person shall be elected to the office of the
President more than twice. And no person who has held
the office of President or as acted as president for
more than two years of a term to which some
other person was elected president shall be elected to the
office of the President more than once. There are two
words I should say, one word which is repeated. That's
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the key to this. The keyword in that passage is elected.
No person shall be elected to the office of the
president more than twice. I would bet dollars to donuts
that the line of constitutional attack will make the distinction
between election and ascendants to the presidency.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
For example, let's say Vice President jd Vance and Ron
de Santis hypothetically are the ticket in twenty twenty eight,
and they win.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Jd Vance becomes president.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Conceivably, Ron DeSantis as vice president could resign for some
undisclosed reason. Could be illness, could be needs to spend
more time with the family, could be he needs more
time to buy shoe lifts. I don't know, but he
decides to resign and get this. Per the twenty fifth Amendment, quote,
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whenever there is a vacancy and the office of the
vice president, the President shall nominate a vice president who
shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of
both Houses of Congress. And as of this moment, the
Republicans control both the House and Senate. We don't know
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what's going to happen in twenty twenty six, but hopefully
you could see where I'm going with this. The president,
then jd Vance could conceivably choose Trump as his next VP.
There's nothing explicitly preventing that. Then Vance could either be
a figurehead president or could even resign himself, which would
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then mean dunk, da da da, Trump is your next president,
not elected, but has ascended.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Is it constitutionally sound? Maybe? Maybe not.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That's what the Supreme Court is for. Oh, that's right,
a six y' to three majority. Do you actually think
they wouldn't get five votes? It clearly violates the spirit
of the twenty second and twenty fifth amendments. It's a
workaround scheme some shit, but not the letter of those amendments.
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So that's it. That's the strategy, well, one of the
strategies being considered. Dollars sodonuts. I know I'm right about this.
They're going to challenge the word elected and not have
him elected because there's no way that an amendment could
be passed to circumnavigate this. Just in case you didn't know,
a proposed amendment must be passed by a two thirds
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vote in both the House and the Senate, then ratified
by three fourths of the state legislatures or state conventions.
Not having now or ever in a world of such partisanship,
no way in hell.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
This is the only way in there's your roadmap.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
He wouldn't be allowed on ballots otherwise, so it's not
about electing him. He wouldn't be able to get on
enough ballots on different states to get enough Electoral College votes.
He'll be easily disqualified in any election attempt. It would
never get to the ballot. So this is not about
being elected. This is about ascendency to the presidency. There
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is an open question as to whether the word election
also occludes also includes ascension. But either way, Donald Trump
is serious about a third term. Why because he never
jokes about anything. There's not a funny bone in his body.
He insults, but never jokes. This should be taken seriously
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in every way. For k if I am six forty,
I'm mo.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Kelly, ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We have zero bliss, completely blissless.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh man man down to change.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's about good day coming around.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
It's been like a cool ran coming down. Sax again,
sauce again, down the changer, this moment.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Changer.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Detective Harry Bosh has moved on from the l A
p D and is now working as a private investigator.
That's where we find Bosh at the start of Bosh Legacy,
now in its third and final season, and in this season,
his daughter and now LAPD officer in her own right, Maddie,
is investigating a slew of follow.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Home robberies and abductions.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
And speaking of abductions, Maddie's abductor in the previous season,
Doc Waller has been murdered while in prison and all
signs point back to Harry Bosh as the person who
ordered the hit. Honey Chandler is running for La DA
and a target for assassination, and believe it or not,
the intrigue and drama increase from there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just heard a story about my dad about his
time in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
It was war.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We're crying more like she's caught me wondering what other
secrets does he have? We really want to know. Bosh
has crossed a lot of lines in his long and
checkered career with murder, you honestly think he would decide
up a prison in to murder the scumbag wobductor Madeline.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It was my daughter, had skin of my life.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Justice will be done one way or another.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I need not tell you, but I'm going to tell
you anyway. The star of all things Harry Bosh is
none other than Titus Welliver, who joins me now on
the show. Titus Welliver, in honor and privilege to have
you on. How are you this evening?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I'm very well, Thank you, Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I think it's fair to say that the character of
Harry Bosh and you, Titus Welliver the actor, are inseparable.
What has Harry Bosh meant in your life and career?
Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well, I will say that it's a deeply nuanced and
complex character. That is what every actor dreams of having.
Right do you want something that's going to challenge you,
that you can grow with? And Harry Bosh certainly has
has been that character. I think Harry and I I mean,
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you know, the source material is impeccable. Michael's books, the
creator Michael Connolly of Harry Bosh and we didn't have
to get goofy and try to change things to make
it you know, or you know, sex it up, put
him in a Ferrari and have him run around like
James Bond cut in the Fool. You know, he's a
(03:18):
he has a great depth to him, and he's an antihero,
so he's very human. He's flawed, he has his his things,
and that's what I think is very appealing with audiences,
and he's a very human character.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Let me stay right there, talk more about that complexity.
What do you think is most misunderstood or least understood
with Harry Bosch? Is it his inner demons? Is it
a case that he can't seem to solve. Is it
protection of his daughter Maddie? What is it that drives him?
Speaker 5 (03:50):
I think they're I think they're all components the things
that you just cited. But at the core of the show,
I think what we what we discovered was that was
Harry's relationship with Maddie. You know that he didn't She
was very little when Harry and Eleanor divorced and they
become reacquainted when she's thirteen, years old, and that became
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very central because what it meant was that Harry was
no longer a lone or you know, not a lone wolf.
He wasn't on his own. He now had his daughter
in his life. And Michael Connolly really said it so clearly,
which was Harry can be gotten to now he has
an achilles heel and his achilles Heel as his daughter.
But that also allowed us to look Harry's never going
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to be a warm and fuzzy guy, but it allowed
us to take certain layers off so that Harry would
only expose himself to a certain degree in his vulnerability
to Maddie, but his expression of love for her, his tenderness,
his kindness is very very palpable. And that was something
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that I was deeply protective of, was the nature of
that relationship. I did not want it to be contrived
or in any way cliche.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
You know that everything was was roses with them. They disagree,
they fight, they they have you know, a real depth
to their relationship. But that also softened him to a
certain degree, but not in the way that he still
pursues justice. He's still that same guy and he carries
(05:36):
a lot of internal baggage because he's not an emotionally
demonstrative guy, right, he's you know, you would He started
out very taciturn. You know, silence and rage were kind
of his two expressions of emotion, but that became more
more nuanced to a certain degree too.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
He does.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
He carries a lot, a lot of a lot of driving.
There's a there's a lot out of a sense of
innate sadness with Harry. He carries a tremendous amount, and
I think that's what also makes him appealing to audiences.
They see a guy who is very capable, he's very brave,
he's capable of heroic deeds, but he doesn't come out
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wearing you know, some cliche, you know, white cowboy hat,
like I'm the good guy, just so everybody knows, you know,
he's a he's a beige guy.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
He's a gray guy. You know, he's not He's not
one or the other.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
But he's incorruptible and he has he has a flawless
moral compass. But he doesn't suffer fools, nor does he
tolerate bureaucracy or political machinations getting in the way of
him obtaining justice.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
What brings you out see how you're doing.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So far, so good.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I go. I know you ain't been waiting here all night.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just to welcome me back.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
What's the word in Moasco?
Speaker 6 (07:01):
Theaytied dot waller to nobody, just rooms, unsolved rumors anybody
I know, not me, not you. Look, I can't buy
you a beer go tonight. I'll just mosey on home.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Keep in touch, hear me. You won't regret what you're
doing for me. You're in the world now, keep it
that way.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
My guest right now is Titus Welliver Harry Bosh himself.
We're talking about the third and final season of Bosh Legacy,
now streaming on Amazon Prime. Episodes drop every Thursday, and
I'm here to tell you if this is the last Bosh,
it just might be the best. More with Titus Welliver
on the other side of the break.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kelly one, Kay.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
And six.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, thanks for lunch. We should do this more often.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I know, I know, it's just work.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You know, I do what's on your mind.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
There's just there's just all these rumors on the grapevine
about what happens stop gossip.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
It's worse than a school yard ignored.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I know.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just turned out you know how Doc Whiler was
killed and who actually killed him? And okay, listen, I
would have if I could have, If that answers your question,
But I did. I told you the day boarders called.
I had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know, and I believed you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then in now Kurt, Docwiler had a target on his back.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
The minute those prison doors clang shut and they threw
away the key. You can hear it tinging down the
storm drained pipe splashing in the sewer.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Gross, that's a poetic How long did it take you
to come up with that?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
One?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Just came up with that? Be good, be good, good
hunting tonight es be safe.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I well, I'm right in the middle of speaking with
the star of Amazon Primes hit series Bosh Legacy, mister
Titus Wellever. Bosh Legacy is in its third and final season.
Episodes drop each Thursday, and Titus is interesting. We talked
about Maddie who eventually became a member of LAPD, and
(09:29):
you talk about Harry Bosh, who has an incorruptible moral code.
I think that sets up season three Bosh Legacy now underway.
Honey Chandler played by Mimi Rodgers, is running for Elie
County DA. Maddie is knee deep in investigating these follow
home robberies and danger of bounds talking about that incorruptible
moral code. Well, Harry Bosh might be someone who's involved
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with Maddie's abductor being murdered in prison. What else is
that play for season three of Bosh Legacy.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Well, with that, you know it takes place eight months
after Maddie's intercepted that call from the prison system where
Preston Borders says, I took care of that thing for
your father, implicating Harry in the You know that he
somehow enlisted the aid of Borders to kill Dockweiler, who
abducted Mattie. Other than his wife, the only calls Borders
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made with his prison burner went to another burner in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
How do you know that.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Using the data obtained by search warrant from the burner phone,
we can determine which cell tower was closest to the
phone receiving the incoming call.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Okay, so which cell tower is it?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Well, this particular tower is located in the Hollywood Hills
above Sunset Plaza.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So who's getting these mystery calls?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Where is this Hollywood Hills, Yes, sir, who do we
know lives in that neighborhood, Harry Bosh.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
And so then there's an investigation, which is called a
Chief Special where they say, you know, look into this,
but it's guy, it's on the it's on the QT,
it's on the down low in the in a big way.
And then Maddie hears a story from one of Harry's
fellow operators from his days in Special Forces about an
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experience in Afghanistan, and it sheds the light a different light,
and so she suddenly kind of goes, I may not
know my father to the to the extent that I
think that I know him, And that creates an imbalance
in their relationship, whereas they say in Star Wars, there's
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a disturbance in the force, right, And so it creates
some interesting drama. And she's got her hands full with these,
with these follow home robberies.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
That's got a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And Harry is very, very engrossed and myopic as he
always is, but even more so with this case with
this missing family, because it involves children. It's taken from
the book Desert Star, which is one of the books
that we used as a source material for this season.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
And.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
That takes Harry into a very very very dark place.
So there's stuff that's happening simultaneously, and we as the audience,
will witness Harry really looking into the abyss, probably.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
More so than he ever has.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
And when you know, like Harry says, when you look
into the abyss, when you look into the darkness, some
of it looks back at you and can penetrate you.
And so I think we find Harry in a very
very dark place. But he's relentless, right, He's not playing around.
And because there children are involved, you know, I always
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say the older that Harry gets, the more formidable he comes,
because the you know, with age brings a certain level
of aulnerability. But in Harry's case, that's kind of he
becomes like a cornered animal, right, He kind of he
resorts to his primordial instincts. It just makes him very
very dangerous.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
My time with you is running short, mister Welliver, so
let me ask you this. You've likely been asked this before.
I know you couldn't have foreseen that Bosh would turn
into a universe where you'd have different series and spinoffs.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
But here we are.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I have to know, and I know you've probably been
asked this, but not by me. When are we going
to see Harry Bosh Hoeronymous Bosh hit the big screen.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I don't know, and I you know, it's Hollywood, so
I say never, say never. A lot of people ask
me that is this truly the final season? There's a
petition out there, et cetera, et cetera. And by the way,
I just want to express my gratitude for the fans
because this show would not have been on for a
decade where it not for the incredible dedication, the love
and support of the fans.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Over the years.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And I'm truly eternally grateful for that. Look, you never know,
and if the I know, everybody involved, if there was
a knock on the door and somebody said, you guys
want to come back, we'd be in that boshmobiles so
fast their head would spend.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Bosh Legacy Season three, the final season, is now streaming
on Amazon Prime, new episodes dropping each Thursday. I'd like
to thank my guest mister Titus welliverer for coming on
this evening.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I love the series and I'll be right there with
you if and when the Bosh movie comes to pass.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well if, thank you, you have a blessed evening, and
thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
As I look at the box office for this week,
streaming is becoming a larger and larger piece of what
we watch every single day of every single week, to
the point where, and we talked about it before, I
think the larger communities finally getting around to it. How
the box office picture is so bleak, and that's to
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quote the Los Angeles Times, and how local theaters are
barely surviving, if at all, something that we have talked about.
How love it or hate it? The Disney Company, for example,
they have the most big box office movies which are
being offered from week to week. Oh I don't want
(15:25):
to see snow White. Well, we'll talk about it tomorrow
at eight o'clock. Why Snow White financially failed as a movie.
I've had varying opinions about people who've actually seen it
I haven't seen it, but we'll talk tomorrow about some
of the factors which went into why it did not
succeed financially. But when those movies don't succeed, there is
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a domino effect and you have local theaters. I'm not
talking about the big chains. I'm not talking about AMC,
I'm not talking about Regal or Edwards Cinema, not even
talking about ArcLight.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm talking about the mom and pop spots and talk.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
About the one offs which are still family owned, which
need to have business Monday through Sunday if they're going
to actually stay open, not just a Friday and a
Saturday night, and because those Friday and Saturday nights are
not enough for them to remain in business all week long.
(16:23):
And if the big movies which are not bringing in
the people, and the big movies are not staying in
theater as far as long, then these theaters.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Just can't survive.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And I keep trying to tell people you may not
like Disney, but you better root for Disney or your
favorite local theater will be going out of business. And
we look at the box office returns for this week.
I mentioned snow White. Snow White came in at second,
grossing fourteen point three million, and it's total growth so
(16:53):
far is one hundred and forty two million, sixty six domestic,
seventy five international, well below expectations, well below projections, and
we'll talk more about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
The number one movie this weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
We talked with its director last week, David Ayir, his
movie A working Man, starring Jason Statham. It brought in
fifteen point five million domestically, sixteen point six million internationally
for I would say a respectable thirty two million against
the budget. I don't know what it was, but it
was not a big budget. Had to have been less
(17:28):
than one hundred million. It was forty forty Okay, so
it's going to make all of this budget back in
a week and a half.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Snow White costs two hundred plus, not including the marketing
and promotion.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yeah, so yeah, A Workingman good enough start to get
number one. Number three this week was the Chosen Last Supper.
Do you know this movie?
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Mark?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
No, I don't know. If it's a horror movie is there?
Is it a religious movie? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean it could be both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It
grows to eleven point seven million. I have to look
it up. I honestly don't know. Yeah, number four, The
Woman in the Yard.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Ay, I don't even like looking at that trailer.
Speaker 10 (18:14):
I was curious about that. I still need to see
this spooky man.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Let me take you inside the numbers.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
So, but this highlights the point that we were making
both The Chosen and The Chosen was only in twenty
four hundred and seventy eight theaters. That's a little more
than half of the available theaters. And you have The
Woman in the Yard was only in twenty eight hundred
and forty two theaters. That's not a lot of theaters
when you're talking big picture, which means a lot of
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theaters chose not to offer it, or it was incongruous
with their you know where they were in the country,
and they don't show certain types of movies. R rated
movies or sexualized movies. It's very hard for these movie
theaters to stay in business. And those are quote unquote
top five movies, not bringing in a lot of money,
not in a lot of theaters.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
And mark your favorite.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Death of a Unicorn came in at number five, how
much five point seven million, five point seven million.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's not a great first week. No, that's too bad.
Speaker 10 (19:16):
I mean, the movie's not great, but it's got great
people in it, so that's disappointing.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And after that, there's nothing really to talk about. Captain
America Bravedey World came in at number seven. It's still
hanging around the top ten because the other nine movies
are relatively weak. It's crossed over four hundred and nine
million dollars worldwide. It some will argue that it underperformed,
but it's still a respectable total. It's still the highest
grossing movie of the year carrying us into the summer months.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's not a small amount of money. I mean not
at all.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
It had a massive budget, but what other movies are
making four hundred million bucks? But see for Marvel it
had quite possibly one of the smallest budgets of any
big budget Marvel release, at one hundred and eighty million.
That's the a budget yet and it's still outperformed its predecessor,
being the first Captain America, first Avenger film.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
So and let's say they put another two hundred and
fifty million of marketing and promotion on top of that,
it's still respectable. Yeah, yeah, And these days it's better
than most of the movies out there. Again, that goes
back to the whole Disney Marvel thing. You can hate
on then if you want, but you can't also cry
about movie theaters closing.
Speaker 10 (20:32):
Yeah, and this is gonna be a great conversation for
tomorrow because there's so many thoughts that go into snow
White's failing having nothing to do with the movie. And
I know several people who saw it, So tomorrow eight o'clock,
do not miss this conversation.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Yeah, we're going to go in and talk about all
the elephants plural in the room, the social media conversations,
what they got right, what they got wrong, the people
who are hating on it, who never saw it, who
had no point of reference, the public statements made by
the actors, whether that figured into the equation as well,
(21:08):
or live action movies are just not all that popular
by and large, some of it some haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But we'll get into all that tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I for me, I'm not the intended audience, so I
really don't feel one way or the other.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
For what it's worth, the highest grossing movies of the
year so far are Disney Marvel movies.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Well so the.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Top two for as much as people throw shade at
them right now. They're the ones that are making most
of the money that are keeping the theaters alive.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Yeah yeah, And if they underperform, they're making it much
more difficult for these movies of movie theaters to stay
in business.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean, there's a correlation here. You know.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
If these other movies do not succeed going through the
big tent pole box office movies going into the summer,
you will see these movie theaters close before the end
of the calendar year.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I mean, just think about it.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Last year, Disney closed out the year with the biggest
film of the year with Mowana Too at what just
over a billion?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Just over a billion?
Speaker 10 (22:16):
Yeah, but that still, that's a film that got relatively
light marketing and promotion. The audience just ran out and
sent them a score. And all the different outlets who
rank what film companies and who did what for Hollywood,
Disney is coming back as thank you, thank you, thank
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you for putting out films that are putting butts in
theaters big and small, big and small, the mom and
pops and the big theaters without a company like that. Look,
maybe maybe this is a concerted effort to just do
away with Hollywood, maybe have us all at the house.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But damn man, well this could be Hollywood without businesses,
do we not? No, it's gonna be Hollywood one way
or the other. Now, Whether we will actually continue to
go to a physical brick and mortar theater in the
future in the way that we used to pre pandemic
that time is not ever coming back. Whether we will
go with any frequency, that is still an open question.
(23:17):
But we know mathematically there are fewer films in theaters.
We know that just fewer releases, and we know that
they are staying in physical theaters for a shorter amount
of time. We know that there are just movies which
are in fewer theaters that are being released. Fewer movies,
fewer movies in theaters. They're not staying as long in theaters.
(23:41):
Movie theaters are not staying open all seven days anymore.
I look at a lot of theaters I used to
go to, the mom and pop ones, the ones that
were hidden away that I thought was a gym. They're
not open seven days a week anymore. They're open like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Because Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday don't make financial sense. Where you're
gonna pay people to do the popcorn and tear the
tickets and run the projectors whatever it is the machinery
they use now and only have five people to the theater,
one of them be Mark Ronner every three months. Yeah,
(24:16):
literally were like five people in the theater with you
right well, at the Death of Unicorn screening, I went
to Friday.
Speaker 10 (24:22):
There were two others and they were talking at full volume. Okay,
so more than two.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Yeah, this raise is actually an interesting question because Conway
mentioned it earlier. Some theaters are looking at starting to
allow people to smoke weed in the theaters and openly
text in the theaters and stuff like that to make
it so it's more of a social experience.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. For every person you gain, you're gonna lose one.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I promise you that I am not going to go
into a theater, especially if you talk about maybe there
might be kids and smell that pungent smell of weed. No,
and if you're gonna talk antext well, I'm might as
well just stay home. There is really no reason to
spend twenty dollars a ticket and have to put up
with that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I will not silly concept. Somebody wrote an article.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
It's something that they are considering with all of the
major theater groups AMC, REGAL. They're all looking at options
on ways because they can see what's happening down the line.
The industry is dropping, so they're looking at whatever options
that they can find.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I get the.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Desperation, and I get you know, all ideas good and
bad are on the table. That's just one of the
bad ideas, which is not going to push you any
closer to where you want to be.
Speaker 10 (25:35):
The cure is worse than the disease for that one, Yeah,
I'm not sure which is worse. I mean, I guess
I wouldn't mind the smell of weed as much as
I would people texting in the movie. I mean, it
already drives me nearly to homicide when I see people
with their phones on. And a week before last somebody
was having a full volume phone conversation in the theater.
(25:55):
And it's already you're doing the cost benefit analysis way
too much already when you go to a theater, like
is it worth everything I'm paying? Knowing how annoyed I'm
gonna get at all the other filthy animals there.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
The experience in the theater has to be better than
the experience at home. And since because of streaming, if
you can just wait twenty twenty one days that movie,
even if you still have to pay to rent it
at home, it still will cost less. Talk about the
cost benefit analysis, it will still cost less than purchasing
two tickets and condiments or what at parking in gas
(26:33):
to go actually see that movie in the theater.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I will gladly wait three weeks.
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Glad it's if you go to a movie, it's a
half a day commitment driving there, parking all of it,
and if it's going to be annoying, you are far
less likely to do that.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And also, I do most of my streaming watching late
at night. It fits my schedule. I can watch it
twelve midnight and not have to worry about falling asleep
or whatever. And if I do so what, I'll wake
up in the morning and finish it.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
It's hard to be to sleep next to me in
half the movies we've been to, snoring, falling asleep and snort.
That's not that's that's because I'm proof proof of Stefan,
not me. We were sitting right next to each other.
It was that was rough, Mom, that was rough. You
were calling them dogs.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Man.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Look, I'm here to tell you that a person's testimony
is the most unreliable form of evidence, and that's a
hard proceeding firsthand witness testimony.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
This is not hearsay. You were right there.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
You were either right.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
You were either snoring or you snuck a barnyard animal
in with you and that was making the sound.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I rebuke the.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's Later with Kelly when we come back, when I'm
checking with George Norri and also have my final thought.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Speaker 7 (27:51):
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Speaker 4 (28:09):
Can't i AM six forty is Later with Mo Kelly.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Let's check out
Coast to Coast AM. What's coming up on that show
with George Nori? George, how are you sir?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Great show, Ma, I'm great.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
We're going to talk about magic, the soul's purpose.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
We're going to have some fun on.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's the way it should be.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
If you're not having fun, then nobody listening can have fun.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
That's a good point gave you credit.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
I didn't even know it to say, thank you, George, welcome,
bye George.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
See from my final thought tonight, I really, I really
was unsure what I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I really really was unsure.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Sometimes I want to talk about politics, some things I
want to talk about cultural, social issues, whatever happens to
be on my mind, and I try not to talk
about the thing, the thing that everyone else is talking
about unless unless I feel I can give you something
that nobody else can, will offer you, something that you've
(29:15):
not heard elsewhere. And tonight I believe it's one of
those nights. I'm actually going to make a bat with
you that what I'm about to tell you tonight you
haven't heard elsewhere, and if you have, I'll just deny
that you actually heard it elsewhere. But I've heard it,
You've heard it, We've all heard it. President Trump fancies
(29:38):
a third term, and he says he's not joking about
pursuing it, and I believe him. I absolutely believe him,
and you should too. Number One, Donald Trump doesn't have
a sense of humor, So when he says he's not joking.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
That's like Tuesday. Everything he says is not a joke.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
And let me be clear, he doesn't have a sense
of humor because he doesn't know what humor is. He
loves to insult people, and you should not confuse insulting
people all the time and you finding the insults funny
as having a sense of humor. He doesn't joke. He
doesn't know what self deprecation is. So when he says
(30:18):
that he's going to pursue a third term, regardless of
whether he says he's joking, regardless of what the Constitution
says to the contrary.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
He means it.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And so when we assess it, when we talk about it,
we should take him at his word. A number of
journalists have asked the president directly to him, and those
close to him asked him about exactly how he's planning
to go about pursuing this third term, to which no
specifics are given, just vague comments about quote unquote, we're
(30:49):
working on.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
It, that's all they say. I was listening to Steve Bannon,
heard some comments from him. We're working on it. Let
me clear up all the mystery.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I've been really digging
into this and talking to my constitutional scholar friends about this,
so it's based in some actual knowledge, and I'm pretty
sure I know what the Trump team is planning to
do at the end of this term. So hopefully we'll
have this on the podcast. Sam will put it in
the podcast so we can refer back to this, because
(31:20):
I'm pretty sure I'm right about this, and I'm pretty
sure you haven't heard this from anyone else, and I'm
kind of surprised because there are only so many attack
points to the Constitution.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What most people say is you.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Can't become a president for the third time, specifically because
of the twenty second Amendment. In fact, we heard it
in the news break. That's the audio that you hear
the twenty second Amendment. Here's how the twenty second Amendment reads.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
No person shall be elected to the office of the
President more than twice. And no person who has held
the office of President or as acted as president for
more than two years of a term to which some
other person was elected president shall be elected to the
office of the President more than once. There are two
words I should say, one word which is repeated. That's
(32:06):
the key to this. The keyword in that passage is elected.
No person shall be elected to the office of the
president more than twice. I would bet dollars to donuts
that the line of constitutional attack will make the distinction
between election and ascendants to the presidency.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
For example, let's say Vice President jd Vance and Ron
de Santis hypothetically are the ticket in twenty twenty eight,
and they win.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Jd Vance becomes president.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Conceivably, Ron DeSantis as vice president could resign for some
undisclosed reason. Could be illness, could be needs to spend
more time with the family, could be he needs more
time to buy shoe lifts. I don't know, but he
decides to resign and get this. Per the twenty fifth Amendment, quote,
(33:01):
whenever there is a vacancy and the office of the
vice president, the President shall nominate a vice president who
shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of
both Houses of Congress. And as of this moment, the
Republicans control both the House and Senate. We don't know
(33:22):
what's going to happen in twenty twenty six, but hopefully
you could see where I'm going with this. The president,
then jd Vance could conceivably choose Trump as his next VP.
There's nothing explicitly preventing that. Then Vance could either be
a figurehead president or could even resign himself, which would
(33:42):
then mean dunk, da da da, Trump is your next president,
not elected, but has ascended.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Is it constitutionally sound? Maybe? Maybe not.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That's what the Supreme Court is for. Oh, that's right,
a six y' to three majority. Do you actually think
they wouldn't get five votes? It clearly violates the spirit
of the twenty second and twenty fifth amendments. It's a
workaround scheme some shit, but not the letter of those amendments.
(34:15):
So that's it. That's the strategy, well, one of the
strategies being considered. Dollars sodonuts. I know I'm right about this.
They're going to challenge the word elected and not have
him elected because there's no way that an amendment could
be passed to circumnavigate this. Just in case you didn't know,
a proposed amendment must be passed by a two thirds
(34:35):
vote in both the House and the Senate, then ratified
by three fourths of the state legislatures or state conventions.
Not having now or ever in a world of such partisanship,
no way in hell.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
This is the only way in there's your roadmap.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
He wouldn't be allowed on ballots otherwise, so it's not
about electing him. He wouldn't be able to get on
enough ballots on different states to get enough Electoral College votes.
He'll be easily disqualified in any election attempt. It would
never get to the ballot. So this is not about
being elected. This is about ascendency to the presidency. There
(35:13):
is an open question as to whether the word election
also occludes also includes ascension. But either way, Donald Trump
is serious about a third term. Why because he never
jokes about anything. There's not a funny bone in his body.
He insults, but never jokes. This should be taken seriously
(35:35):
in every way. For k if I am six forty,
I'm mo.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Kelly, ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We have zero bliss, completely blissless.
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