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November 10, 2024 34 mins
Dean answers listener questions, offering top tips on heated bathroom floors and advice for identifying asbestos or lead paint in 1920s homes. He also discusses patios, odd lighting issues, and uneven flooring, and wraps up the segment by sharing one of his favorite flooring secrets.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp The
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(00:21):
going out terrestrial or whether you're listening digitally on the
stream live from anywhere else on planet Earth. That's it's
that's a reality. It's a reality anyway. Welcome to home,
where every week we help you better understand that place
where you live. I'm Dean Sharp, the House Whisper here

(00:41):
with you live like I am every weekend, Saturday morning,
six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings nine to noon
Pacific time. This morning, I am having a discussion with
you about was that? Was that? A? Yeah? Somebody, there's
a squirrel on the hammock. I'm having a discussion with
you about the stuff in your home that you would

(01:05):
say it was this way when we bought it, the
mistakes that you've inherited from somebody else when you bought
your home, and finally, finally some advice on how to
fix them. And we're going to get back to that
in just a bit, but as is our custom, it
is the top of the hour, which means it's time
to go to the phones and talk to you about

(01:26):
your call. So let's stock to Wayne. Hey, Wayne, welcome home.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, thank you. So we're the ones in Irvine doing
the unwanted house remodeling and I have We work for
a Norwegian company. My wife is still in love with
the Everybody in Norway has heated floors in the bathroom,
so that's what we want to put in. So we're
thinking of electric heated floors. We want to get your
thoughts on it.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Okay, electric heated. I mean, I love heated floors. If
I had my way, I would never put four stair
heating into another home ever. Ever. Again, now you know
understanding that most people have four stair heating in their homes,
and I'm not gonna spend people's money unnecessarily by just

(02:13):
redoing it for the heck of it. But I love
radiant heat floor. I just love radiant heat in general,
and I think it's the best kind of heat. It's
the most efficient kind of heat because it starts at
the floor and it moves through the room. As it
as it should, and so on and so forth. So
I'm a huge fan. I have a feeling though your

(02:35):
question is is geared more specifically towards I mean, can
you do it? Should you do it? What kind of
break should heat you let me know?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Right, yeah, yeah, we're looking at electric heat under the
tile that we tile flooring in both bathrooms and the
heat under that.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, So generally speaking, electric heat under the bathroom floor
and a bathroom remodel is that's the direction we normally
nudge people when that's all that's happening. If you're going
to do a whole house or a significant area of remodel,
and you've got control of floor levels something I'm about
to talk about here on the program of the Oh

(03:19):
I'm sorry, it was that way when we bought it.
I don't want you to to have to radically change
the floor level of the bathroom versus the rest of
the bedroom that you're walking into or the hallway that
you're walking in from, because you've put radiant heat under there.
And and in a lot of situations when you've already

(03:39):
got a slab that you're working on, or you've got
an established floor level that you can't change. If you
go with a liquid system a hydronic system, then you're
going to have to lift that floor considerably because you've
got to have the tubes running through there, and it
just takes up more space. Electric takes up about an
eight of an inch of space, not consider because it's

(04:03):
a pad. It's a very low lying Let me be generous,
I'll say the electric system takes up a quarter of
an inch because because it's an electric pad that lies
out that you would set underneath the tile, embedded in
the tile system. So the cool thing about electric radiant
heat systems is that they don't significantly raise floor levels,

(04:25):
and that's why we think that it's a really good maneuver.
Also in terms of cost, initial cost, laying down electric
radiant floor pads in a limited space like a bathroom
area is going to be much less expensive than doing
a whole hydronic system with pumps and tying it into
a heat source and all of that kind of stuff. Now,

(04:47):
ultimately a hydronic system will yield less expensive operating costs,
but we usually only find that when it's tied into
a larger area, like we're going to do the whole
master suite or we're going to do the whole house
or this half of the house or whatever, because the
electric costs a little bit more to run as it

(05:11):
operates on a regular basis. I would make the argument though,
if you have solar, it's probably already offset, so no
big deal. And even in a small space like a bathroom,
it usually does not make any significant dent because the
heating is so efficient an electric radiant heating system or
any radiant heating system. Because it's heating you right up

(05:32):
through your feet, right up through your legs, right where
you are. As it passes by way of convection up
to the upper areas of the room, you can get
by with running it at a much much lower level
than if you have to force air heat a room.
Most of the time those vents overhead anyway really pushing

(05:53):
the heat down. So I'm all for it. And the
electric systems work really well. They also integrate well depending
on what your tile system is, So I would say
if you're just looking into it, look into like what
a shlooter system has to offer, because schlooter has an
integrated electric cabling system that's very customizable, plus the base

(06:18):
that you're actually setting it on is already ready to
receive the thin set for the tile. It's a great
little system, not the only one out there, but well
worth looking into.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Great.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, thank you, all right, Wayne, good luck with that.
We can we wait? No, all right, So we're gonna
hear some news and when we come back more of
your calls. Your Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI Am six forty.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
We are talking about the stuff you have inherited, the
mistakes you've inherited in your home from the previous owner owners,
the kind of stuff that you say it was this
way when we bought it. I want to get beyond
that with you today. I want to actually help you
identify it and change it so that so that your

(07:10):
home is firing on all pistons, as it were. But
right now we are in the middle of taking calls.
So we're going to return to that conversation in just
a bit. And I'm want to go back to the phones.
I want to talk to George. Hey, George, welcome home.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Good morning, signor Deine. I have a question. We are
working in the nineteen twenties house in Glendale, and we
tore up some walls and we found some horse hair
plaster that is.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
There, and we're kind of worried.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Do you think that has as asbestos? I know it
was before the asbestos craze.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Those like thirties and forties, but I was just kind
of worried. What do you think, sir Ah. That's a
very interesting question. I think this is maybe the first
horse hair plaster question I've ever had on this show. George. So,
when you say you were, can I just your home
or you work? Are you a part of a crew
remodeling this house?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm helping a friend to some remodeling demo work.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I guess you could. I got you, all right, So,
nineteen twenties home. The likelihood that there is asbestos in
that plaster is very, very very low, thank you. It's
just it's not that asbestos wasn't around then, and it's
not that it wasn't in use, but it wasn't being

(08:29):
used in plaster walls, in residential plaster walls. To my knowledge,
I've never encountered that before, and so but I will
I'll tell you this if there's any concern. If there's
any concern, then a test would be worth doing, okay.
And a test is not an abatement. Okay, it's not like, oh,

(08:50):
tens of thousands of dollars to get this stuff. Okay.
A test is just a test, So you know, a
couple three hundred dollars to have a section tested and
sent away just to confirm. But generally speaking, no horse
hair plaster fibers in the whole reason that horse hair
plaster is what it is. And people are scratching there

(09:12):
like what is horse hair plaster? All right? There was
a time before World War two, pre war in which
many many plaster walls, lime based plaster walls were mixed
with a fiber in order to help them hold together
and not crack. And guess what animal hairs? Yes, animal hair.

(09:33):
Horse hair was probably most common, but there are other
animal hairs that could be mixed into it as well.
And when you tear up that plaster, you end up
with these fibers in there, and some people have looked
at those and said, oh no, that fiber must be asbestos.
So if it's a real yeah, if it's a real
horse hair plaster wall, now here I can tell you
one thing. If you have a chunk of it in

(09:56):
your hand. And this is a relatively safe test because
you're not you know, even if there was asbestos there,
you wouldn't be disturbing it. Okay, but you got a
little a chunk of it in your hand. If you
if you get out a lighter and and hold the
lighter near those fibers. Uh, if it's asbestos, nothing will happen.

(10:17):
Those fibers won't move, they will just be there. The
whole point is asbestos is you know, fire resistant, fire retardant, Okay,
so they won't be affected by the heat or the flame.
If it's horse hair, just like regular hair, it'll shrivel
up and just gone it'll be. It'll shrivel and change it.
So you know what I mean. So a little, a

(10:38):
little spot on the spot peace of mind investigation. This
is not, however, me saying, oh absolutely you got free
rein there. There's no way there can be any asbestos
in those walls whatsoever. I'm not saying that. I'm saying,
if there's any concern on your part, go ahead and
have a little peace tested sent out to a lab

(10:58):
for peace of mind. But what I am saying is
the likelihood of there being a specied in that wall
is very very very low.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Thank you, sir, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Good Thank you so much, George. I appreciate it, and
have fun, have fun helping out with the friend and
getting that house. I love houses built in the twenties. Now,
they can be problematic because life. The problem with them,
other than being one hundred years old, is is that

(11:35):
they were designed for a different time and a life
in a different time, and we don't live our lives
in the twenty first century that exact same way, and
so they can be tricky and tough. However, the level
of craftsmanship, the level of integrity that goes into a
ninth a typical just a typical nineteen twenties I'm not

(11:58):
talking about luxurious or an ultra custom or just a
typical house built in the twenties. The level of attention
and craftsmanship that went into those homes is so high.
It's why most of them that have even been marginally
cared for are still standing in really good shape today,

(12:20):
despite the fact that they don't have modern seismic engineering
in them, despite the fact that they don't have any
modern engineering in them, the fact that they are still
standing loud and proud today has everything to do with
the quality of the materials being used and the craftsmanship
and the integrity that went into building homes pre World

(12:42):
War Two all across the country. Plus the design elements
were pretty dang sexy as well. So we love investing
in century homes and reworking them. But there are things
you have to be aware of. And by the way, George,
if you're still listening, I would be more concerned myself

(13:03):
now here you thought you were off the hook, I
would be more con I'd be less concerned about finding
asbestos in the plaster walls, and I'd be more concerned
with lead paint on the surface of the wall kicking
up and disturbing lead based paints. Now, if it's been
redone and redone and modernized throughout the years, great, But
if it's just been coded over with other things, that

(13:25):
would be something to be concerned about disturbing lead based paints,
because that was super common in the twenties. In fact,
the more lead in the paint, the better. It made
a very strong paint, very very strong paint, also very
toxic and not something that you would ever want to
encourage a child to lick the wall. Tina's like, Dean,

(13:49):
why would you ever encourage a child to lick the wall?
I wouldn't, But it happens. It happens. They're gonna, they're
going to If you have a toddler in your home,
just know this. You see are they are they in
sight right now? Are they in can you see them?
Are they in your line of sight right now? Good?

(14:10):
Because the minute, the minute you lose sight of them,
you can know this. They're in their room somewhere. They're
licking a wall. That's what they're doing. So you better
be sure that your walls are non toxic. All right,
I'm just saying that's the kind of quality advice you
get here on the program. All right, when we return,
and I'm going to be coming back to calls later

(14:31):
in the show, So if you're on the line and
you can hold, please hold. When we return, we're going
to go back to our list of stuff that was
that way when you bought it.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
You are Home with Dean Sharp. The house whisper Elmer
is picking some happy music today and I'm loving it.
I'm loving He's reading my vibe like he does. He
and I like this like this, just like Psychic Twins.
Thanks Elmer, appreciate it, but exactly everybody loves it. Uh okay,

(15:12):
it was this way when we bought it. Many of
us have inherited somebody else's mistakes in our homes, and
the question is how do you identify them? How do
you fix them. We've talked about room editions that destroy
light and flow in the first hour of the show.
I just want to tack onto that very quickly, very quickly,
the subject of house darkening patio covers. Patio covers are tricky.

(15:38):
They are way trickier than they seem like they should be.
And here's why. Number One, you do a patio cover
for one of two reasons, almost always because you're looking
for some shade, okay, looking for shade. Second reason you
do a patio cover is you may you may be

(15:59):
wanting a a weather proof cover overhead so that you
could be out on the patio while it's raining or
whatever the case may be, well in inclement weather, and
so that you're not getting wet on you. These are
the two main reasons for a patio cover in southern California.

(16:19):
Mostly it's shade, and secondarily it becomes the whole oh,
I want to be outside even if it's raining kind
of thing. Okay, So here the tricky problem with a
patio cover is that number one, the shade issue. A
lot of people have committed to patio covers, which, by
the way, because of that, darken the room that they're

(16:40):
attached to. Right, that shade can make a room very
very dark. Here's the thing. A patio cover on the
south facing side of the house, Okay, south facing sun.
That's where the sun is in the northern hemisphere. It's
ever so slightly at the peak of summer, it's still
a few degrees in the southern sky, and this time

(17:04):
of year it's getting lower and lower in the sky. Okay,
And so a lot of patio covers get planned and
built without having ever figured out the shade study. In
other words, where is the shade actually going to fall?
Because with the sun a few degrees off kilter into

(17:25):
the southern sky, the shade from a patio cover does
not fall straight down under the footprint of the patio cover.
It falls at least a few feet back. So let's
say you build a twelve foot fifteen foot deep patio
cover on your south facing side of your home. All right,
there you go. Great, where does the shade show up? Well,

(17:47):
maybe in the very very heighth of summer July and August,
maybe most maybe twelve of that fifteen feet is in
the shade this time of year, maybe three or four
feet of that footprint is in the shade because of
the angle of the sun. But regardless of whether you're

(18:07):
getting shade where you wanted it, you're absolutely always going
to get shade where you don't want it, which is
more darkness inside the room. Now, some people are like, listen,
I need a patio cover just because I don't want
southern sun blazing in through my windows and doors on

(18:28):
the south side of the house. I get that, and
that's a valid concern. Uh, you just got to be
very very careful how we're going to plan this out,
because the sun moves, you know, I don't know if
you've noticed that. Actually, let's let's not be too Copernican
about this. Let's let's say that the earth moves and
the sun comes up from our perspective in the east

(18:52):
and sets in the west, so that shade is always
constantly moving. And that's why patio covers are trickier than
they see because what we're trying to do with one
rigid structure is achieve something that kind of capture something
that's always on the move. And some of them worn't great.
A lot of them don't work so great at all,

(19:14):
and a lot of them mess up the sightlines and
the rooflines of the back of a house. And sometimes,
again my previous advice, when it comes to a room
edition that's untenable, sometimes the best thing you can do
with the patio cover is just remove it. Now, I'm
not a massive fan from a design perspective of contraptions

(19:36):
that you put on your house, but I will tell
you this, this is one of those areas where I
even I would consider a retractable awning that can actually
fit in a canister up against the house and only
be put out when you need it and can be
pulled back in when you don't, so that it doesn't
just mess up a lot of stuff. That's not always

(19:57):
going to be the case either. I'm just saying patio
covers far far trickier than they would appear to be.
I personally, if we want to spend time outside. I
personally would rather build a shade structure detached from the
house out in the yard than the one that's attached

(20:19):
to the edge of the house by way of a
patio cover. Why because further in your yard is a
far more pleasant place to be a destination to go to,
even in inclement weather, and right next to your house,
right next to the stucco walls and all the concrete
next to your house. It's used if you were to

(20:39):
do an emotional tour of your home, right now, of
your backyard, it's probably the least likely place that you
would say, oh, yeah, this is my favorite spot, okay,
because I love sitting next to a warm stucco wall
on a hot day. No, it's probably out under the
shade tree or out in the midst of the garden.
So why not push it all out there? Anyway, just

(21:01):
saying house darkening patio covers can be just as probablematic
for the lightness of a room as a room addition
in the wrong place. Well, what about that light I
don't want streaming into my house? Get room darkening shades,

(21:22):
light filtering shades on the windows, and just drop them
down to accommodate those severe direct sundays. Just because the
light is harsh, so diffuse it but eliminating it, you
might end up inadvertently causing a room to go way
darker than you ever wanted it to be. There, you go, okay,

(21:43):
Now we move on to yet another issue that is
a design mistake. I'm not going to mince words, and
it quite often results from either a we didn't have
the budget to do this right, or be the contractor
didn't even mention to me that we could have changed
this and done it a different way, or you just

(22:04):
inherited this way. But this is how these things happen,
and that is severe flooring height transitions inside a house.
Flooring height transitions most likely to occur when we walk
into a kitchen or a bathroom. Why because we've decided
to tile in there, or to put some kind of

(22:28):
surface in there that is much thicker than was originally planned,
and the subfloor, the flooring underneath the new surface was
never lowered to accommodate the thickness of the new material
going on. This especially shows up as a problem in
houses ironically with raised foundations, Because I say that ironically

(22:53):
because a raised foundation house is a house that's the
easiest to change the level of a floor inside a
room because it's not like you're jackhammering up a slab
in order to get to that. The reason why tiling
in a bathroom that has a slab on it usually
doesn't create massive floor height problems with the rest of

(23:15):
the house is because tiles, which you are only three
eighths of an inch thick, can be thin set directly
to the slab as the base, and as a result,
it's hardly you know, higher than the carpeting or the
hardwood outside in the hallway. But if you have a
raised floor house, in order to prep it what was

(23:37):
originally wood or maybe plywood and linoleum in an older home,
now we've got to do a build up. We've got
to do a build up to stiffen that floor. We
have to put a thick mortar base down in order
to get ready for the tile. And the next thing
you know, we're up an inch inch and a quarter,
sometimes even an inch and a half in order to

(23:59):
get tied on that floor in there. And you know,
if it wasn't for that angled little threshold piece, you'd
stub your toe walking into that room. It's weird, it's awkward.
It didn't need to happen on a raised foundation house
because when the floor was completely out and ready to
be redone, that was the time to pull the sheathing

(24:21):
off and to lower those floor joists in that room
by an inch or an inch and a quarter so
that after the build up, the tile planes with the
rest of the surfaces on the outside room. Does that
make sense. That's a problem, and what's the fix? Well,

(24:42):
pretty much just what I said. The fix is. You know,
it's a big commitment, but it can make a world
of difference your experience of your home. And if you're
remodeling that bathroom, then go the extra mile, spend a
few more dollars to empty out the bathroom and lower

(25:03):
that floor down. Now, it may require a little bit
of engineering, especially if it's a second floor bathroom. We
don't want to just shave floor joice and make them
smaller and weaker than they were to begin with. It
may require a little engineering input, but believe me, trust
me when I say this, it can always be done.
We can always do what needs to be done in

(25:25):
order to level out flooring conditions, and maybe for the
first time in decades of you living in your home,
you just glide from one room to the next, which,
by the way, in terms of even aging in place,
is a really really good idea to not have these transitions. Aesthetically,

(25:46):
from a design perspective, I don't want those transitions. I
don't care if you're twenty five years old, but if
you're seventy five years old, I don't want those transitions
for you there either, because it's just an issue that
you shouldn't have to put up with. So it's never right. Okay,
sometimes you just have to live with it, but it's
never right. There's always a way around it. So consider

(26:08):
these things.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 1 (26:17):
Hope you're enjoying your Sunday morning. It is a beautiful
Sunday morning here in southern California. And I don't mean
to overlook those people who are have suffered from the
Mountain fire and are still struggling with that. But outside
of that pocket right now, to my knowledge, everybody else
in southern California is enjoying a awfully, awfully pretty fall day.

(26:44):
Hope you have plans to get out into it Today.
You are listening to Home with Dean Sharp, the house
Whisper here on KFI, and we are having a conversation
this morning about your home, as we always do, specifically
the stuff that makes you say it was this way
when we bought it, in that kind of apologetic, embarrassing way,

(27:07):
when you have inherited somebody else's mistakes in your home,
and finally let's get around to fixing them. So we've
talked about everything from bad room additions to house darkening,
patio covers, of flooring height transitions, which I just covered
with you. Now I want to talk briefly about flooring

(27:28):
material changes happening too often at too many rooms, just
from a design perspective. By the way, there's two things
about a flooring material change. Now, I'm not against them
at all. Sometimes they set off a space as very special,
but I prefer Tina, and I prefer to have a

(27:48):
in Following the theory of hierarchy in design, what does
that mean? It means that in every kind of artistic
endeavor you set up an order of priorities of and
so homes and architecture no different. In fact, it could
be argued that homes and architecture are the original source
of hierarchy in design. It simply means you walk into

(28:10):
a space, not everything is of equal importance. Some things
are more important than others visually speaking, and it's like boom,
that's the focal point, and then secondarily this and then
third that. Usually have about three hits before you have
to let go of it and tell people all right
now you can just wander about and look wherever you want. Right, So,
hierarchy is important, and when it comes to flooring material,

(28:33):
we like to express that hierarchy in choosing a flooring
material for the house in general. Now, maybe it literally
goes into every room everywhere. Okay, maybe that can get
a little monotonous at times. Usually not though, but it could.

(28:53):
And in those cases we can spice it up by
creating a different pattern using the same material, creating a
different pattern in a room just to distinguish it kind
of in texture and in line shape without changing the
material itself. What we will often do is have a
majority floor material in a space, and then if you're

(29:15):
setting off a special room, quite often a bathroom, then
we'll freely change that material up and oh, okay, we
got hardwood in the hallway and of course tile in
the bathroom, no big deal. A lot of homes, though,
have changed the flooring material in every single room, and
that gets to be like a patchwork quilt. And also

(29:38):
visually speaking, and you remember earlier in the show I
was talking about the importance over space of spacious nests
and vista and flow and the vista, the visible view
of every room. Having a different flooring material very quickly
can shrink down a house and make a you know,

(29:58):
the hallway feel small because it's on its own. Every
room feels smaller because it's on its own and distinguish
from every other room. If you live in a massive house,
this is less of a concern. But generally speaking, much
much larger homes have design input in them that kind
of keeps us from happening. This we most often see

(30:22):
in your average mainstream house where somebody has taken it
upon themselves at some point to say every room will
be different, every room will be unique, and you know
what I'm all for it just not in patchwork quilting
the flooring everywhere, So flooring material changes at every room
much rather see something larger and monolithic happen. Now, some

(30:44):
of you are saying, Aha, Dean, Nah, you don't understand
my house though, because the hallway goes in one direction.
I would love to put like a plank flooring throughout
my whole house. But the hallway goes in one direction.
The length of the living room is opposed to it,
you know, and at ninety degrees another direction you're supposed
to lay things, you know, the length of the room

(31:05):
the length of the plank, and then I'd have to
change direction down the hallway, and I'd have to change
direction again, and then it's all broken up. Well, yeah,
that's true. That can happen. Sometimes. It can be tricky
even in one open space, like, well, the room is
technically long in this way, but out here where we're standing,
it's long in that way. What do you do? Which
one do you pick? Well? Here is where should I

(31:28):
even let the secret out? Tina? I'm not sure because
because I'm I'm I'm so used to walking in and
being like the sorcerer who just solves the problem, and
eyebrows go up and jaws drop, and they're like, I
never thought, all right, I'm gonna let it out here.
It is here. It is set the flooring at a

(31:51):
forty five degree angle, not straight and not ninety At
a forty five degree angle, you know what that does.
It renders all directional questions moot because a forty five
degree angle in a room for the flooring direction, if
you have a linear plank flooring, it works with every room.

(32:11):
It flows from one room into the next. It also
makes a floor very alive, very dynamic, especially if you
run it at the right angle, like you walk into
a house. If a forty five degree angle of the
flooring is conveying you because you tend to want to
walk along the lines, it conveys you in the in
the right direction into a home or into a room,

(32:34):
it can be super super dynamic. And no, it's not weird,
and no it's not anti traditional, Okay. Really, the flooring
pattern has very very little to do with whether we're
defining the home as traditional or this or that, you know.
I mean, if we're restoring a home, that's one thing,
then we just keep things the way they were. But
if we're going with a traditional motif or a contemporary motif,

(32:58):
neither one matters when it comes to a forty five
degree angle on the flooring, and it solves all problems
and it runs right into rooms out of the hallway.
It can be fantastic. And I have just released a
design secret that we have used time and time again,
and now everybody knows, and I've lost complete control over

(33:23):
Now I can no longer amaze people on our next
consult because they are, oh, yeah, we already heard that, Dan, Yeah,
we already know all right, hand in your pearls. Today,
my friends, we're going to return to this conversation, of course,
but look at that top of the hour. You know
what that means. When we come back from the news,
we are going to the phones. If you're on the line,

(33:46):
hold tight. If you haven't called in eight three three
two ask Dean eight three to three the numeral two.
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