THE BIG PODCAST - Leon Thomas Talks Breakthrough Album "Mutt," Co-Writing "Snooze" By SZA, Playing Tiny Desk, Early Success As An Actor
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Big Boys Neighborhood on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
All right, now your big interview ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, yes, and just in general,
just spotlight on Snooze.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, what was your work with Snooze? All right?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
So back Sizza, shout out to her. You know, she
is an amazing writer and an amazing artist. And I'd
met her before that with my boy Childish Major. And
when we got into the studio, she made us feel
super comfortable. We played her a record, she wasn't really
feeling it, so we immediately went to the other room
to go start building out you know, this instrumental for her.
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And when she walked by the studio, she was like, man,
I really like that vibe. We sent the instrumental over
to her and she wrote an amazing song, you know,
a song that we knew the second we heard it
would be really special in just a cultural moment, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Flash forward about three years later.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We take home a Grammy for it, and you know,
it's just one of those life changing moments. I'll never
forget my boy Chris. I'm gonna shout him out after
she left. We were playing it cool the whole time
she left the room.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He starts jumping on the you know, because it's like
it's good to see a grown man turn into a
little kid.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Real, but that is one of them when you're watching
the door like yeah, okay, thank you, get back. But
you know what's wild about that is not you have
a feeling that you created something you can tell but.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh but not knowing you know, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Mean seven know, but but yeah, yeah, you know what's
crazy about that, Leanna, is that y'all went and presented
something else and you were probably like, oh man, this
is the one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, we gotta you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We could tell every artist has that same look, like okay,
I'll try it like like that nah nah, got right?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That feel like something It feels for me because you
say every artist you know, everybody you know, so you
have you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Felt that before? For sure?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I mean I've been in studios with you know, big
rappers and I'm playing like fifteen beats in a row,
just no, no, no no. But there's there's there's that
moment where you connect creatively and it just makes sense
and I'll lift for that you gotta love a challenge,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You gotta grow like either a callus or a thick
skin like you know, because we love what we do
and it's never where you're gonna be like, hey, you know,
Sizz or Drake, whoever listen to this mediocre one right here.
We always gonna play our best, but you and it
is everybody exactly and you're playing your best and you're like, nah,
that's not it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You're like, oh damn.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
But but being an artist, I understand, like sometimes it's
not even about uh us, Like you know, it's not
even about the producers at that point. It's like maybe
their panic isn't working for it. They just can't hear
anything over it. Maybe it's too busy, maybe it needs less,
like I don't know. For whatever reason, I'm just down
to like press play, you know, I don't get any
nerves or it just says what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And so when when when you guys say this isn't happening,
and you say you go to the studio immediately next.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Door next door, Yeah, yeah, because because we had two different.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And y'all start putting together snooze like building it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Just like building, well pretty much you know, we had
like a sample kind of locked in which was just
some chords from a friend of ours, like just like
a basic piano.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And then we took that piano started playing guitar around
it and bass, and then baby Face came in and
did some cool.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Guitar parts over it. Chris, I mean that's my mentor
right there.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know, Yeah, Kenny, Kenny really helped raise us in
this music industry and you know, show us how to
how to get right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know, man, if you're gonna listen to anybody's yeah, man,
you don't that man, Hey, bro, I take those notes
like a kid my stomach with my feet in the air, like.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's my mister right there, that's my mister. Leon. We
got more to speak on, y'all, continue to hang out
with us.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boy's neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
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Speaker 3 (04:04):
If you know, you know, If you don't, you soon
find out we got Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. How
long does it take to build Snooze in that other studio.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, we were building the track for about maybe an
hour and a half two hours.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It wasn't like she was doing yeah the next door
doing her own thing to another track. And then was
when she walked out to use the restroom, she just
happened to you know, hear it, you know, and we
always do that on some sneak who put this basketball
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in the door, and so melodically if you can't what
is she hearing through through the door?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
A great core progression.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And you know, for me, I chopped my my vocals
up like a sample and so so I'll like sing
a thing like really slow and then I'll speed it
up like Kanye used to do back in Yeah Yeah,
and then chop it up.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
All are there vocals on there?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
There's a little like yeah, there's little like vocal chops
of me, just like you know doing rifts and stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man, you gotta do that for me. What I'm walking
by the door, what am I hearing?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, it's like a I'm trying to think it's like
that like like pitched up and like chopped up and like.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
A man, you did that so well, just so weird,
like you can tell you just threw that away.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Like explain, but it's like like vowels not even like
lyrics or anything. It's just a melody and then you
chop it up so that it turns into a little.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So there's no words, no nothing, but the vision is there.
But it's not even the vision for the actual song itself.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's literally just like if you sampled uh, Aretha Franklin
or Marvin Gay and it's like one of their ad libs,
just in the background of a full instrumental. Everything that
we hear now, that was the yeah, yeah, and I chopped.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It because the whole thing is like, you know, clear
and sample was really expensive, right, So if you can
make your instrumental feel like an old school sample, and
that's what we're hearing there, that's the vibe. Yeah, I'm
trying to make it feel like we're chopping.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I don't know something, man, It's crazy because if she
didn't take that one, I would have forever been like, man.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Set the road with scissors. You know what I'm saying. Man,
we left this damn door open. She just walked by
and like, that's not it, yo.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Listen, everybody's got a vision and a vibe, man, I mean,
shout out to her, man, So do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You give her that? And she takes his Scissor takes
it and takes it into a.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Separond room and writes an amazing song. I mean, like,
and that was a fast process. I mean this is
all in the same day. Yes, yeah, we came in
there probably like an hour and fifteen minutes after she
got the instrumental, and she wrote that whole song just
like I mean, it was like stream of consciousness at
that point, just so blessed.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And did you know did it feel like, oh my lord,
you know how you start like you already had your
homie jumping on the couch.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You wasn't saying, Chris, No, it's so funny, yeah, Chris, Chris.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, we had a production duo called the Rascals
for years, and you know that's like my brother right there.
We started working together like eighteen or something like that.
So yeah, I mean we even had a little voice
memo because we knew she wouldn't let us leave with
the record pocket, you know, so we could still listen
to it afterwards, you know. And it's so funny hearing
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like our reaction listening to Snooze, which.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was just like, you know, it was you for it,
Hey man, did you record y'all reaction?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
With the phone in your pocket too, I would have
been like, it's just like you're just hearing whatever we
were doing. So if she made a crazy rift for.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Like whoa, I remember thinking back as Chriss just moaned
and grown it all over the song like rot.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Because I know I've been like, Leon, We're not gonna
let you go yet, you continua.
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All right now your big interview, Ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the Neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, and you now explain going into mut the album.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, I mean that was a very special album for
me because it felt like, you know, my first album,
Electric Dust did pretty well, but like I knew I
needed a real moment on this one. And you know,
I'm like anti being shelved. So I was like, okay, right,
let me like really put the work in. You know,
I spent about three weeks at the crib just really
getting into what this whole album would be about.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I started off doing a bunch of records with mad Lib,
one of my favorite producers, and a lot of those
records were really great, but I knew I wanted that
low five sound, but with a little bit more of
a live edge. So I met these guys, h Robert
Garringer and David Phelps and we got into the studio
and it just clicked. We did that record Mutt, and
(08:59):
you know the before that, my my, my dog and
my cat were fighting. Amen, Well listen, here's what happens
when you when you have an ex girlfriend that likes animals,
you know, and then you break up and she's like,
all right, I'm leaving the pets, you know. So now
I got a dog and a cat and they're fighting,
and you know, my dog, he's he's a little mischievous,
(09:21):
you know. So he had this face and it was
a face that reminds me of when I'm messing up
in a relationship. And I realized, you know, I had
to have a song that that kind of embodied that.
And then once I found the title Mud, I was like, well,
that's a great title for this whole album because I'm
throughout all of the songs, I'm just you know, learning
and messing up and.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know, trying to figure it out, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And I think, you know, after really seeing the response
from all of the men and women who've listened to
this album and in the way that they can relate
to some of the things that I've went through, you know,
I think it's it was a smart thing to do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Hey man, and you actually saw the cat and the
dog fight. Yeah, well, I mean my cat she's she's
real quick with it, so she slap him up. And
when he gets slapped, you know what I mean, like
he has his face of like, you know, it just
kind of reminded me of like you know, when I
when I messing up in a relationship, that's me my dog. Yeah,
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not in the fighting aspect, but just like you know,
you argue, and it's just like it's just the inspiration
from the cat and the dog. They probably started eating better.
They didn't know why.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I like, man actually just went platinum, So I'm like,
you know, this guy is getting all the treats in
the world, you know, the dog.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Part like this, you know what, got his own little
area Like yeah, I don't know what happened, but it seemed.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like something just changed. No kills more people, Like you're
like man.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Living beef when I tasted. I know, but it's crazy
where you get inspiration from him?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And it was such a weird moment, like really thinking
back at it. But but yeah, I mean, life just
gave me a gym.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Leon. We're not gonna let you go yet. You'll continua
hang out with us in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
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Speaker 2 (11:19):
Big boys neighborhood. If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. And you were able to shed
different skins too though, And by that I mean when
it was your gold time, it was you as an artist.
You know, it wasn't this guy from you know what
I'm saying, Like you walked in and and to this
day it's you respected for your music craft, you know
(11:45):
what I'm saying. Like when you look at you, it's like,
oh no, he he's real deal.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And when you listen, you can hear all the seasoning
in you and.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Your tiny desk, Thank you man, because everybody can't do
a tiny desk. Yeah, I mean really strip you from
all of the comforts you have on the stage.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So they do. Yeah. So it's like it's not like
you have.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Any ears and like backing tracks and stuff like that,
no reverb. It's just like drive vocal in song and
like you gotta make it work. And I mean, I'm
really up for the challenge. I mean I'm down to
you know, hop on a guitar and just vibe. But
you know, I think it it definitely shaped me. You know,
it's a moment because you know, it's a you know,
a lot of eyes watching. I didn't know that they
(12:28):
didn't have some of those so called like safety nextthing you're.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Up there and it's like whatever you're hearing is what
happened right then? And there know ad it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
When we see you on a tiny desk and we're
looking at you guys, and it's like the clocks, the
books and things like that, what are you looking at?
Is it because I've seen a turn quick turnaround? Is
it like an office?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't even know if I'm allowed to say exactly
what I'm but it's an actual office. Yeah, so it's
like a group of people just kind of huddled around
a camera, you know, just vibing out and there's like
actually still people doing. It's like, well, somebody the copyer,
somebody really like you know, all the best John you know,
right by the camera.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So you know, that's one of those things when you
come in, nobody get fired just in case. But but
what are you nervous or you're seasoned enough for that?
I mean, you know, I don't like the word nervous.
Excited is excited?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know, I'm just hype and i just want to
do well and I'm just zeroed in. You know, I
said I'm competitive, you know. I treat music like like
an athlete would you know his sport, you know, And
and when I'm up there, I got to just be
zeroed in and I'm having a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But it's also like yeah, precision.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And then also, man, it's like everything is so instant now,
you know. And when I say instant, it's one of
those things where music used to be like, Okay, you
know you had a couple of critics. You know, you
had Rolling Stone magazine. You have to source magazine giving
you know, you want five mics from there and now
with the device, you know, with this it's right there
every you know, everybody, and handle comments.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Those comments will definitely tell you the stress. If it
ain't right, you know, you gotta really like you know,
come through and you know, do your thing. And I
mean respect to to my team. You know, we rehearsed
for like two weeks straight for that, you know, just
to make sure we were.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you yeah, about to say lock in. How was
Coachello for you? It was really cool. Man shout out
took my big bro tye uh Todd dollars sign. He
brought me out there during his set and.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It was cool, like all the all the West Coast
was out there for kids, everybody, you know, wisk Leifu
was up there, so that was one. And then money
Long also brought me out and that's my homegirl. So
it was just like two very different.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Crowds, but like the vibe was was was equally as
dope as both. Leon, we got more to speak on
y'all continue to hang out with us. We got more
Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This is big Boy on demand, Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
If you know, you know, if you don't, you soon
find out. We got Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. Hey man,
when when you see yourself where you say, Man, I
was you know, producing and writing? Yeah, you want to
be of course, you know, and of course with the
TV background and being creative anyway you want to be.
Did you want to be an artist even more so?
Or did you just like that?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But you know, I took some notes from Drake because
like after he did all of this stuff on Nickelodeon,
you know, he took some time off, you know, just
to kind of build up his brand, to really like
connect with the right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Team because music is a team sport.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And you know, once I found the right team locking
in with Todd Dollarsan and Sean Barron over at Easy Money,
everything just started falling, you know, into place. And I'm
glad I really took the time to you know, hone
him on my craft.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We don't see that, and I'm talking about when we say, oh,
you know, child actors, and I'm talking about the things
that come with it. Sometimes we don't see a lot
of people that's at an early age, and we see
them and we fall in love with them that know
how to go from that to where you are now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Everyone everyone can't do what you've done. It's a journey.
What Yeah, what done?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Justin Timberlake Spears. You know what I'm saying. And you
said it's a journey, Explain that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, you know, I mean it's it's it's really hard
to be a walking brand. And the whole thing is, like,
you know, you got to see yourself as an artist.
It's almost like a Coca cola or a pepsi or
McDonald's right, And when people first meet you, it's one thing.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It takes a long time to train the masses into
seeing you with something else, if ever so like, if
ever exactly so. For me, I had to play a
lot of mind games to make sure that people really
respected me for the true artists that I am. I
really play five instruments, I'm really out here writing my songs,
and I think it's important for people to see me
for you know, the creative that are truly. But we
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love to and not by any wrongdoing, we love to
put people in a box. Oh it's easy for us
to put us in a box, and especially if it's
something that that we enjoy or we have a nostalgia,
we have a moment with you people like like even
with me man, like my first radio gig, people still
hold me to that stage. And I don't go back
and correct everybody. No, no, because you had that moment.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean honestly, however, people were able to, you know,
really connect with my creativity, whether it just be a
TV show or even the songs that I've written.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For people, or even if it's just my own music.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I try to meet everybody with good energy because it's
it's all love at the end of the day, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Explain Leon the in between though, you know, like like
when when you come off of a victorious or you
come off with you know, even with with Lion King
and being you know, it's still like this this box
that that's going down.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, there was definitely a little between. It was tough.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It was tough, you know, but I mean luckily I
had uh the skill of writing and producing so that
I could I could chase down checks when I needed them,
but it wasn't really easy financially, like after the show.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
But yeah, what about the truth that's the kid from
you know exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That whole moment it's not. It's not the most comfortable thing.
But I realized, if I really wanted to step, I'm
gonna have to go crazy. I gotta do something astronomical.
I really got to go in. So you know, it's
not even on them this point. It's on me to
make sure that my brand is as big as it
can be. So you really see me for who I am.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Leon.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
We're not gonna let you go yet, y'all, continua hang
out with us in the neighborhood. We got more Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. Big boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
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Speaker 3 (18:16):
Big Boys neighborhood. All right now your big interview, ladies
and gentlemen. Very talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. Yes,
do you have people that don't know you from the
early days? Yeah, you know, I don't. It's a wild surprise,
like I on the real I don't until one time.
I remember you were breaking down, you know, snooze and
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I was like, damn, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But yeah, man, you were gonna say, well, no, no,
it's funny. I was in the studio with Nardo Wick.
Oh god, we did a song we did a song
called Wicked Freestyle. I mean it's like real hooding then,
you know what I'm saying. We making like a really
crazy trap beat. Everybody's got the chains on. You know,
it's like real gangstuf. I'm chilling and I just know
him like staring at me for a minute. It took
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him like at least eight hours. He's like, oh, I
grew up on you, like, and it's so funny to
see my brother who's like, you know, you know, real
gangs to turn.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Into a little that. He probably got it. He probably
got like a stream. He was like, who want to
watch it?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Us?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Who want to watch us? We want to watch it?
But yeah, that was what they saw about.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Moment.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah yeah yeah, And I mean that's just like my
respect to him for being cool and still putting out
that record and not feeling any type of way.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, what's the trip? What got you in the studio?
It was was my talent boom, that's the whole piece. Yeah, man,
what did you grow up? Was there always music in
your household? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know, my my parents had an independent record label,
so we had a studio. Then he just fell right
there too far from you know, they were producing hip
hop records in the early two thousands, and you know
my step hops played for Missy Elliots, saw Pepper bb King,
great guitarist and bass players. So I was around a
lot of amazing musicians and a shout out to them
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for just like making music feel fun for me and
not a chore, right, you know, just like really creating
a safe space for me to grow and be.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
More old are you when you laying like the TV gigs?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, the thing is is, uh, you know, I started
on Broadway at ten years old. In around like twelve,
I was on a show called The Backyard Again. It
was a big, big show that I was doing voiceovers for.
But Nickelodeon took notice to me gave me a development
deal at thirteen, and from thirteen to about nineteen, I
was just shooting all types of TV shows on that network.
And shout out to Viacom for you know, really helping
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me move from New York to LA and you know,
chase my dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Hey man, at teen.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Years of age, you were on Broadway, yes, sir at
tea and I was doing nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, it's funny. My stepdad used to joke like, hey man,
you gotta get a job.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Man, You eating too much?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Man, I was like that, let's go you.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never looked bad. It was up. It was hey, man.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But at ten years of age, you're playing young Simba. Yeah,
young Symbol. And I did Color Purple with Oprah. She
was like one real serious plays like my fit and
really in fifth grade I was in.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The play right, but it was like tree, Hey, listen,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So I'm not doing Color Purple and lying, you know,
but we all know somewhere to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Mine pretty much died on the vine.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But so so you already knew like dialogue, you know,
because those are like real production.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Absolutely, man, And I really feel like that was class
for everything that I'm doing now. I mean on Broadway
you do about eight shows a week, you know. So
for me, I was doing the shows and then I
would leave school early for matinees Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, A man, isn't that tuition? It to the
school of experience? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Though, when you look at it as wo the things
that you learn and that you even apply to what
you do and the way that you do things today, Absolutely,
my hustle is unmatched because I know what it's like
to do those eight shows. I know what it's like
to be a little tired but still get at it.
And I think it's definitely made me the man I
am today.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh yeah, man. And so you're not afraid of any
like hard work.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
There's smart work, but you're not afraid of hard work either,
right right.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean I think both are necessary.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah man, Yeah, Leon, We're not gonna let you go yet.
Y'all continue to.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Hang out with us in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. And without knowing the amount when
you got that one check, you know what did that
when you looked like, oh wow, this is not only
just the music, this the music business.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, Do you remember that check?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I do remember that check, and you know, we worked
really hard for it, so I.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Can't ask who or where it came from.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Uh, well, you know, a shout out to Sony you know,
Sony Sony ATV for my publishing stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You know, they gave me one of those like okay.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Wow, check check, and you know, it was just beautiful
to be able to to finally invest in in real estate,
which I really wanted to do. Man, you know which
I'm still living in my development property now, but I'm
looking forward to having that be something that's just you know,
residual income, you know, passive income.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. You know, hey, man, that's crazy because people always
explain that that one chick, did you mess anything up?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know, how did you?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
When I was younger, I used to get big checks
just you know, do wild stuff like like being young.
But I think it was just you know, like when
I was in my early twenties, it was just sometimes
they feel endless. It's like okay, oh yeah, yeah I
did that once twice, three times, four times a.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, it's all good a lifetime.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I mean I think after I really understood like like
like the flow of economics, I said, Okay, well we're
going to save this. You know, I'm gonna always make
sure I have something because sometimes family members may have
situations and to you know that I've gotten nice things,
you know, but then I can't help the people I
love out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
That was the piece I was like, okay, well, let
me let me.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Really, you've been in the business and gotten checks where
it's like you've had enough, you can you've crashed the
car a few times, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
And then it's like okay, because there's sometimes when people
learn and every lesson is a lesson learned, right, but
some learn hard lessons. So you was able to like, Okay,
I'm not gonna do that again. I'm not gonna do
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that again. I'm not gonna do that again. And it's
never too bad.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But you know when you just see the statements for
a whole year and you're like, well, I could have
really skipped a lot of those, you know, dinnerators or
traps or whatever else. You know, it's just ways that
we can, really And then when you tighten up when.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You're young, sometimes we all made it, you know what
I'm saying. When you made it, we made it. Come
on with me, yeah, and start flying at home, bringing
with people. Then you see the breakdown. Wait, I pay
for that exactly. I pay for that meal yea. And
for Google oh, lord have mercy.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, so Leon, We're not gonna let you
go yet. You'll continue to hang out with us in
the neighborhood. We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
This is big boy on demand, Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
All right now your big interview ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yes, I know you seem really locked in right now
with your career. How is dating like for you? Like
I wonder do you sing to the girls that you date, Like.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, yeah, well I mean always say if you date me,
you'll live forever through my songs, So.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
That can hurt me too, it's not yeah, yeah, you
never know.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You never know, but you know, honestly, I feel like
music is something I love to share. And if I'm
just at the house, you know, recording and catching the vibe,
I'm definitely on that, like come come check this song?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Really what you think? You know?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And then it's right there, like you got the voice.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If you want to play something acoustic, it's like right there,
it's right there. You know what I'm saying, And you
know how I love when you say your ex left
the you know, left the pets, you know what I'm saying,
and then you get inspired to do much. Yeah, exactly,
And I'm pretty sure your ex gotta be man, she
probably left the dogs.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It was like, yeah, you keep the dog. And now Platinum.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Talking about the Yeah, she'd probably be like, and now
you're there with big Boy, and.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It's all good energy. I try to stay good friends
with hell. Yeah, you know what I mean, like keep it,
but it's good to win.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Though you never made a song for a girl that
you've been within a.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Relationship, Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, it's got to be pieces of yeah, I mean,
but it's also just pieces of the relationships. Throughout a
lot of these records, I try not to go to
specific or you know, or even be vindictive about our situations.
I feel like, if anything, I'm just pointing out my
flaws a lot of times, like things that I could
have been doing better, you know, because I'm still learning
how to how to really get this whole thing right.
(26:58):
You know, I'm not perfect, So not to be too
vindictive with the with the songwriting much that's kind of way.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, saying the name.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, even just like too much about like our situation.
I think it's more so about just finding good stories.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, I'm a storyteller, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Sometimes I would be writing songs for other artists and
that has nothing to do with my story, but I
could imagine and build it out. So even for my
own life now as an artist, I feel like I
don't like giving people too much. My diary is per se,
and you got to know how much just like a
piece of it, like a drama.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Give them drama.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, that's what they want, just like a bad stroke
instead of like a real fine one. Because there's times
where music you can say, a man, I felt the
same way off of that, or that would have moved
I felt that as opposed to if I listen, I'm like, man,
this dude talking about she cut up his left. Jordan like,
oh yeah, this is real person.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're a real person.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah right, those broad strokes are better, you know, as
a songwriter for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And are you creating that? And of course I know
you are. I think I know the answer this, but
are you always creating?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah? A workaholic?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Like it's an obsession at this point, but it's great
that it you know, makes me money.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And people are like, how how do you know when
mut the album is done? When you know heal is done?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Because how do you know when it's say, okay, you
know what here deadlines?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Okay, let you work for like two years, right.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So yeah, because I wasn't even trying to turn in
the album mud at first, I was like, man, it
just needs to be better, like we need more, like
you know, because I mean, you get in your head
you really want it to be great. And I would
spend a lot of time with Tying Yay, and like
I was seeing how great their stuff was, and I
wanted like my stuff to have like all the theatrics too.
And but I'm glad I you know, trusted my first
(28:43):
mind and just you know, let the world here.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And I've been in with Yay.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
There's times man when I go in and I'm like, oh,
this is the one right here, right two days later
I can go back and I mean like it's like
it's gone right.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So yeah, that's the thing that I had to kind
of like work out of my system a little bit,
you know, and just trust my first mining and realized
that this isn't my only opportunity to drop an album.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know there there's more to come. Leon. We're not
gonna let you go yet.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You'll continua hang out with us in the neighborhood. We
got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
This is big Boy on demand.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Big Boys neighborhood. If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. When when did you started picking
up instruments? Was that something early?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it was early.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I did a movie called August Rush when Robin Williams
and Terrence remember Bro you get. But I also had
to learn how to play the guitar for the film,
so they sent me home with the guitar, and they
knew my dad played, so he helped me out. And
then I also had a coach and that's what actually
opened me up into into starting to write songs.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Once I had enough chorus, I could finally just like cook.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You know, would you be tucked away with your guitar,
just tucked away you know how some people it's like
manages me and my guitar. Yeah, like like you you
could play take a little cat your little keyboard.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Would you but you can't take a piano to the beat,
you know what, I'm taking a stick and just vibe out. Man.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean I think it's it's my storytelling instrument. Yeah, man,
you know it's how I really draw out all of
my emotions.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And you know, it's definitely my therapy.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
When do you go from kind of consuming music, yeah,
to writing? And I asked all the time were you
were you writing poetry poems first?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Or did you know you were writing songs?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I knew I was writing songs I got. I got
a record deal with Columbia at thirteen, so like out
of nowhere, like a few of us, it's just like you.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And I know you're not doing it on purpose. This
is me and my therapy, but go ahead to tell
your truth. You know.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
They gave me a record deal, and all of a sudden,
it was like not just songs I was writing for fun.
It was like, Okay, well we might be putting this
out and it might have a million dollar budget, you know,
if it's really good. Luckily I didn't have to have
that pressure that early. I didn't start really releasing music
till till a lot later. But but yeah, that was
the beginning of it all.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Hey, man, who is it that makes sure that you
are a kid you go to public school like I
know my mom, Because at some point, Man, that could
become the pressure could become overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Absolutely, you know, I think having a really strong foundation
people to talk to that also were in the industry,
so they understood if I felt bad because the performance
didn't go well or if I didn't get that auditioned.
You know, there was a level of understanding that my
parents had that really helped me be able to be
open with them, and I feel misunderstood.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Was music something that you kind of like a great
getaway for you too, because just creating is something like
even just what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Man, I always, and I tell people, always had music.
You know. Wherever I went, I had music.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I had headphones, and I dissect music and I take
in music a little more different.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Than anyone else. You know.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm a credit reader in that part and everything, bro,
And I'm listening to pans and like, I enjoy music,
And I say, man, when we were homeless, I had music.
When an apartment build on, I had music. When I
was going to school, I had music when I was happy.
I had music always yeah, man, and so it was
always around me, was it always kind of around you?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And like auld go to for you? Yeah, through ups
and downs. I mean I feel like that's the that's
my safe space, you know. It's why I've always had
a studio at the house. Always like made sure I
had an opportunity to be able to express myself. That's
why I learned how to engineer so I didn't have
to rely on anybody else. Yeah, and and yeah, it's
been it's been my safe place my entire life.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Leon, Thank you for coming into the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
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Boy TV our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We got four channels right there.
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the moment with us backstage with.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Brites and Taylor up in here.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Do you not enjoy more?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But do you enjoy gaming just as much as like
performing or I want you to love.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
It way more like if God came down and said, son,
you can only pick one. I'm picking game, and every
time the game is really yeah. You can delete all
my music from the life and history like I don't
even care.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Damn delete it all. Thank you for listening. It is
you find a big Boy big Boy's neighborhood. You can
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Speaker 1 (33:33):
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This is Big Boys Neighborhood on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
All right, now your big interview ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, yes, and just in general,
just spotlight on Snooze.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, what was your work with Snooze? All right?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
So back Sizza, shout out to her. You know, she
is an amazing writer and an amazing artist. And I'd
met her before that with my boy Childish Major. And
when we got into the studio, she made us feel
super comfortable. We played her a record, she wasn't really
feeling it, so we immediately went to the other room
to go start building out you know, this instrumental for her.
(00:40):
And when she walked by the studio, she was like, man,
I really like that vibe. We sent the instrumental over
to her and she wrote an amazing song, you know,
a song that we knew the second we heard it
would be really special in just a cultural moment, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Flash forward about three years later.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We take home a Grammy for it, and you know,
it's just one of those life changing moments. I'll never
forget my boy Chris. I'm gonna shout him out after
she left. We were playing it cool the whole time
she left the room.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He starts jumping on the you know, because it's like
it's good to see a grown man turn into a
little kid.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Real, but that is one of them when you're watching
the door like yeah, okay, thank you, get back. But
you know what's wild about that is not you have
a feeling that you created something you can tell but.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Oh but not knowing you know, but you don't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Mean seven know, but but yeah, yeah, you know what's
crazy about that, Leanna, is that y'all went and presented
something else and you were probably like, oh man, this
is the one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, we gotta you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We could tell every artist has that same look, like okay,
I'll try it like like that nah nah, got right?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
That feel like something It feels for me because you
say every artist you know, everybody you know, so you
have you.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Felt that before? For sure?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I mean I've been in studios with you know, big
rappers and I'm playing like fifteen beats in a row,
just no, no, no no. But there's there's there's that
moment where you connect creatively and it just makes sense
and I'll lift for that you gotta love a challenge,
you know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You gotta grow like either a callus or a thick
skin like you know, because we love what we do
and it's never where you're gonna be like, hey, you know,
Sizz or Drake, whoever listen to this mediocre one right here.
We always gonna play our best, but you and it
is everybody exactly and you're playing your best and you're like, nah,
that's not it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You're like, oh damn.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
But but being an artist, I understand, like sometimes it's
not even about uh us, Like you know, it's not
even about the producers at that point. It's like maybe
their panic isn't working for it. They just can't hear
anything over it. Maybe it's too busy, maybe it needs less,
like I don't know. For whatever reason, I'm just down
to like press play, you know, I don't get any
nerves or it just says what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And so when when when you guys say this isn't happening,
and you say you go to the studio immediately next.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Door next door, Yeah, yeah, because because we had two different.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And y'all start putting together snooze like building it.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Just like building, well pretty much you know, we had
like a sample kind of locked in which was just
some chords from a friend of ours, like just like
a basic piano.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And then we took that piano started playing guitar around
it and bass, and then baby Face came in and
did some cool.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Guitar parts over it. Chris, I mean that's my mentor
right there.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You know, Yeah, Kenny, Kenny really helped raise us in
this music industry and you know, show us how to
how to get right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know, man, if you're gonna listen to anybody's yeah, man,
you don't that man, Hey, bro, I take those notes
like a kid my stomach with my feet in the air, like.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's my mister right there, that's my mister. Leon. We
got more to speak on, y'all, continue to hang out
with us.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boy's neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
This is big Boy on demand, Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If you know, you know, If you don't, you soon
find out we got Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. How
long does it take to build Snooze in that other studio.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, we were building the track for about maybe an
hour and a half two hours.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It wasn't like she was doing yeah the next door
doing her own thing to another track. And then was
when she walked out to use the restroom, she just
happened to you know, hear it, you know, and we
always do that on some sneak who put this basketball
(04:38):
in the door, and so melodically if you can't what
is she hearing through through the door?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
A great core progression.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
And you know, for me, I chopped my my vocals
up like a sample and so so I'll like sing
a thing like really slow and then I'll speed it
up like Kanye used to do back in Yeah Yeah,
and then chop it up.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
All are there vocals on there?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
There's a little like yeah, there's little like vocal chops
of me, just like you know doing rifts and stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Man, you gotta do that for me. What I'm walking
by the door, what am I hearing?
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Well, it's like a I'm trying to think it's like
that like like pitched up and like chopped up and like.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
A man, you did that so well, just so weird,
like you can tell you just threw that away.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Like explain, but it's like like vowels not even like
lyrics or anything. It's just a melody and then you
chop it up so that it turns into a little.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So there's no words, no nothing, but the vision is there.
But it's not even the vision for the actual song itself.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's literally just like if you sampled uh, Aretha Franklin
or Marvin Gay and it's like one of their ad libs,
just in the background of a full instrumental. Everything that
we hear now, that was the yeah, yeah, and I chopped.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It because the whole thing is like, you know, clear
and sample was really expensive, right, So if you can
make your instrumental feel like an old school sample, and
that's what we're hearing there, that's the vibe. Yeah, I'm
trying to make it feel like we're chopping.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I don't know something, man, It's crazy because if she
didn't take that one, I would have forever been like, man.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Set the road with scissors. You know what I'm saying. Man,
we left this damn door open. She just walked by
and like, that's not it, yo.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Listen, everybody's got a vision and a vibe, man, I mean,
shout out to her, man, So do.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You give her that? And she takes his Scissor takes
it and takes it into a.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Separond room and writes an amazing song. I mean, like,
and that was a fast process. I mean this is
all in the same day. Yes, yeah, we came in
there probably like an hour and fifteen minutes after she
got the instrumental, and she wrote that whole song just
like I mean, it was like stream of consciousness at
that point, just so blessed.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And did you know did it feel like, oh my lord,
you know how you start like you already had your
homie jumping on the couch.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You wasn't saying, Chris, No, it's so funny, yeah, Chris, Chris.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
You know, we had a production duo called the Rascals
for years, and you know that's like my brother right there.
We started working together like eighteen or something like that.
So yeah, I mean we even had a little voice
memo because we knew she wouldn't let us leave with
the record pocket, you know, so we could still listen
to it afterwards, you know. And it's so funny hearing
(07:17):
like our reaction listening to Snooze, which.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Was just like, you know, it was you for it,
Hey man, did you record y'all reaction?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
With the phone in your pocket too, I would have
been like, it's just like you're just hearing whatever we
were doing. So if she made a crazy rift for.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Like whoa, I remember thinking back as Chriss just moaned
and grown it all over the song like rot.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Because I know I've been like, Leon, We're not gonna
let you go yet, you continua.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
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Speaker 2 (08:03):
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All right now your big interview, Ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the Neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yes, and you now explain going into mut the album.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, I mean that was a very special album for
me because it felt like, you know, my first album,
Electric Dust did pretty well, but like I knew I
needed a real moment on this one. And you know,
I'm like anti being shelved. So I was like, okay, right,
let me like really put the work in. You know,
I spent about three weeks at the crib just really
getting into what this whole album would be about.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
I started off doing a bunch of records with mad Lib,
one of my favorite producers, and a lot of those
records were really great, but I knew I wanted that
low five sound, but with a little bit more of
a live edge. So I met these guys, h Robert
Garringer and David Phelps and we got into the studio
and it just clicked. We did that record Mutt, and
(08:59):
you know the before that, my my, my dog and
my cat were fighting. Amen, Well listen, here's what happens
when you when you have an ex girlfriend that likes animals,
you know, and then you break up and she's like,
all right, I'm leaving the pets, you know. So now
I got a dog and a cat and they're fighting,
and you know, my dog, he's he's a little mischievous,
(09:21):
you know. So he had this face and it was
a face that reminds me of when I'm messing up
in a relationship. And I realized, you know, I had
to have a song that that kind of embodied that.
And then once I found the title Mud, I was like, well,
that's a great title for this whole album because I'm
throughout all of the songs, I'm just you know, learning
and messing up and.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You know, trying to figure it out, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And I think, you know, after really seeing the response
from all of the men and women who've listened to
this album and in the way that they can relate
to some of the things that I've went through, you know,
I think it's it was a smart thing to do.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Hey man, and you actually saw the cat and the
dog fight. Yeah, well, I mean my cat she's she's
real quick with it, so she slap him up. And
when he gets slapped, you know what I mean, like
he has his face of like, you know, it just
kind of reminded me of like you know, when I
when I messing up in a relationship, that's me my dog. Yeah,
(10:21):
not in the fighting aspect, but just like you know,
you argue, and it's just like it's just the inspiration
from the cat and the dog. They probably started eating better.
They didn't know why.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I like, man actually just went platinum, So I'm like,
you know, this guy is getting all the treats in
the world, you know, the dog.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Part like this, you know what, got his own little
area Like yeah, I don't know what happened, but it seemed.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like something just changed. No kills more people, Like you're
like man.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Living beef when I tasted. I know, but it's crazy
where you get inspiration from him?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And it was such a weird moment, like really thinking
back at it. But but yeah, I mean, life just
gave me a gym.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Leon. We're not gonna let you go yet. You'll continua
hang out with us in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This is big boy on demand.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Big boys neighborhood. If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. And you were able to shed
different skins too though, And by that I mean when
it was your gold time, it was you as an artist.
You know, it wasn't this guy from you know what
I'm saying, Like you walked in and and to this
day it's you respected for your music craft, you know
(11:45):
what I'm saying. Like when you look at you, it's like,
oh no, he he's real deal.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And when you listen, you can hear all the seasoning
in you and.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Your tiny desk, Thank you man, because everybody can't do
a tiny desk. Yeah, I mean really strip you from
all of the comforts you have on the stage.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So they do. Yeah. So it's like it's not like
you have.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Any ears and like backing tracks and stuff like that,
no reverb. It's just like drive vocal in song and
like you gotta make it work. And I mean, I'm
really up for the challenge. I mean I'm down to
you know, hop on a guitar and just vibe. But
you know, I think it it definitely shaped me. You know,
it's a moment because you know, it's a you know,
a lot of eyes watching. I didn't know that they
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didn't have some of those so called like safety nextthing you're.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Up there and it's like whatever you're hearing is what
happened right then? And there know ad it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
When we see you on a tiny desk and we're
looking at you guys, and it's like the clocks, the
books and things like that, what are you looking at?
Is it because I've seen a turn quick turnaround? Is
it like an office?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't even know if I'm allowed to say exactly
what I'm but it's an actual office. Yeah, so it's
like a group of people just kind of huddled around
a camera, you know, just vibing out and there's like
actually still people doing. It's like, well, somebody the copyer,
somebody really like you know, all the best John you know,
right by the camera.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
So you know, that's one of those things when you
come in, nobody get fired just in case. But but
what are you nervous or you're seasoned enough for that?
I mean, you know, I don't like the word nervous.
Excited is excited?
Speaker 4 (13:23):
You know, I'm just hype and i just want to
do well and I'm just zeroed in. You know, I
said I'm competitive, you know. I treat music like like
an athlete would you know his sport, you know, And
and when I'm up there, I got to just be
zeroed in and I'm having a good time.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
But it's also like yeah, precision.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And then also, man, it's like everything is so instant now,
you know. And when I say instant, it's one of
those things where music used to be like, Okay, you
know you had a couple of critics. You know, you
had Rolling Stone magazine. You have to source magazine giving
you know, you want five mics from there and now
with the device, you know, with this it's right there
every you know, everybody, and handle comments.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Those comments will definitely tell you the stress. If it
ain't right, you know, you gotta really like you know,
come through and you know, do your thing. And I
mean respect to to my team. You know, we rehearsed
for like two weeks straight for that, you know, just
to make sure we were.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So you yeah, about to say lock in. How was
Coachello for you? It was really cool. Man shout out
took my big bro tye uh Todd dollars sign. He
brought me out there during his set and.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
It was cool, like all the all the West Coast
was out there for kids, everybody, you know, wisk Leifu
was up there, so that was one. And then money
Long also brought me out and that's my homegirl. So
it was just like two very different.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Crowds, but like the vibe was was was equally as
dope as both. Leon, we got more to speak on
y'all continue to hang out with us. We got more
Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This is big Boy on demand, Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
If you know, you know, if you don't, you soon
find out. We got Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. Hey man,
when when you see yourself where you say, Man, I
was you know, producing and writing? Yeah, you want to
be of course, you know, and of course with the
TV background and being creative anyway you want to be.
Did you want to be an artist even more so?
Or did you just like that?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
But you know, I took some notes from Drake because
like after he did all of this stuff on Nickelodeon,
you know, he took some time off, you know, just
to kind of build up his brand, to really like
connect with the right.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Team because music is a team sport.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
And you know, once I found the right team locking
in with Todd Dollarsan and Sean Barron over at Easy Money,
everything just started falling, you know, into place. And I'm
glad I really took the time to you know, hone
him on my craft.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We don't see that, and I'm talking about when we say, oh,
you know, child actors, and I'm talking about the things
that come with it. Sometimes we don't see a lot
of people that's at an early age, and we see
them and we fall in love with them that know
how to go from that to where you are now.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Everyone everyone can't do what you've done. It's a journey.
What Yeah, what done?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Justin Timberlake Spears. You know what I'm saying. And you
said it's a journey, Explain that.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Well, you know, I mean it's it's it's really hard
to be a walking brand. And the whole thing is, like,
you know, you got to see yourself as an artist.
It's almost like a Coca cola or a pepsi or
McDonald's right, And when people first meet you, it's one thing.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
It takes a long time to train the masses into
seeing you with something else, if ever so like, if
ever exactly so. For me, I had to play a
lot of mind games to make sure that people really
respected me for the true artists that I am. I
really play five instruments, I'm really out here writing my songs,
and I think it's important for people to see me
for you know, the creative that are truly. But we
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love to and not by any wrongdoing, we love to
put people in a box. Oh it's easy for us
to put us in a box, and especially if it's
something that that we enjoy or we have a nostalgia,
we have a moment with you people like like even
with me man, like my first radio gig, people still
hold me to that stage. And I don't go back
and correct everybody. No, no, because you had that moment.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
It's all good.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean honestly, however, people were able to, you know,
really connect with my creativity, whether it just be a
TV show or even the songs that I've written.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
For people, or even if it's just my own music.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I try to meet everybody with good energy because it's
it's all love at the end of the day, you know.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Explain Leon the in between though, you know, like like
when when you come off of a victorious or you
come off with you know, even with with Lion King
and being you know, it's still like this this box
that that's going down.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, there was definitely a little between. It was tough.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It was tough, you know, but I mean luckily I
had uh the skill of writing and producing so that
I could I could chase down checks when I needed them,
but it wasn't really easy financially, like after the show.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
But yeah, what about the truth that's the kid from
you know exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
That whole moment it's not. It's not the most comfortable thing.
But I realized, if I really wanted to step, I'm
gonna have to go crazy. I gotta do something astronomical.
I really got to go in. So you know, it's
not even on them this point. It's on me to
make sure that my brand is as big as it
can be. So you really see me for who I am.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Leon.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
We're not gonna let you go yet, y'all, continua hang
out with us in the neighborhood. We got more Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. Big boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
This is big boy on demand.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Big Boys neighborhood. All right now your big interview, ladies
and gentlemen. Very talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood. Yes,
do you have people that don't know you from the
early days? Yeah, you know, I don't. It's a wild surprise,
like I on the real I don't until one time.
I remember you were breaking down, you know, snooze and
(18:38):
I was like, damn, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
But yeah, man, you were gonna say, well, no, no,
it's funny. I was in the studio with Nardo Wick.
Oh god, we did a song we did a song
called Wicked Freestyle. I mean it's like real hooding then,
you know what I'm saying. We making like a really
crazy trap beat. Everybody's got the chains on. You know,
it's like real gangstuf. I'm chilling and I just know
him like staring at me for a minute. It took
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him like at least eight hours. He's like, oh, I
grew up on you, like, and it's so funny to
see my brother who's like, you know, you know, real
gangs to turn.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Into a little that. He probably got it. He probably
got like a stream. He was like, who want to
watch it?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Us?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Who want to watch us? We want to watch it?
But yeah, that was what they saw about.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Moment.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah yeah yeah, And I mean that's just like my
respect to him for being cool and still putting out
that record and not feeling any type of way.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
You know, what's the trip? What got you in the studio?
It was was my talent boom, that's the whole piece. Yeah, man,
what did you grow up? Was there always music in
your household? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
You know, my my parents had an independent record label,
so we had a studio. Then he just fell right
there too far from you know, they were producing hip
hop records in the early two thousands, and you know
my step hops played for Missy Elliots, saw Pepper bb King,
great guitarist and bass players. So I was around a
lot of amazing musicians and a shout out to them
(20:04):
for just like making music feel fun for me and
not a chore, right, you know, just like really creating
a safe space for me to grow and be.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
More old are you when you laying like the TV gigs?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, the thing is is, uh, you know, I started
on Broadway at ten years old. In around like twelve,
I was on a show called The Backyard Again. It
was a big, big show that I was doing voiceovers for.
But Nickelodeon took notice to me gave me a development
deal at thirteen, and from thirteen to about nineteen, I
was just shooting all types of TV shows on that network.
And shout out to Viacom for you know, really helping
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me move from New York to LA and you know,
chase my dreams.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Hey man, at teen.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Years of age, you were on Broadway, yes, sir at
tea and I was doing nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, it's funny. My stepdad used to joke like, hey man,
you gotta get a job.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Man, You eating too much?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Man, I was like that, let's go you.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You never looked bad. It was up. It was hey, man.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
But at ten years of age, you're playing young Simba. Yeah,
young Symbol. And I did Color Purple with Oprah. She
was like one real serious plays like my fit and
really in fifth grade I was in.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
The play right, but it was like tree, Hey, listen,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
So I'm not doing Color Purple and lying, you know,
but we all know somewhere to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Mine pretty much died on the vine.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
But so so you already knew like dialogue, you know,
because those are like real production.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Absolutely, man, And I really feel like that was class
for everything that I'm doing now. I mean on Broadway
you do about eight shows a week, you know. So
for me, I was doing the shows and then I
would leave school early for matinees Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, A man, isn't that tuition? It to the
school of experience? Crazy?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Though, when you look at it as wo the things
that you learn and that you even apply to what
you do and the way that you do things today, Absolutely,
my hustle is unmatched because I know what it's like
to do those eight shows. I know what it's like
to be a little tired but still get at it.
And I think it's definitely made me the man I
am today.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Oh yeah, man. And so you're not afraid of any
like hard work.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
There's smart work, but you're not afraid of hard work either,
right right.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I mean I think both are necessary.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Yeah man, Yeah, Leon, We're not gonna let you go yet.
Y'all continue to.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Hang out with us in the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood, Big Boys Neighborhood.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
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Speaker 2 (22:37):
If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. And without knowing the amount when
you got that one check, you know what did that
when you looked like, oh wow, this is not only
just the music, this the music business.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right, Do you remember that check?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I do remember that check, and you know, we worked
really hard for it, so I.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Can't ask who or where it came from.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Uh, well, you know, a shout out to Sony you know,
Sony Sony ATV for my publishing stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You know, they gave me one of those like okay.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Wow, check check, and you know, it was just beautiful
to be able to to finally invest in in real estate,
which I really wanted to do. Man, you know which
I'm still living in my development property now, but I'm
looking forward to having that be something that's just you know,
residual income, you know, passive income.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah. You know, hey, man, that's crazy because people always
explain that that one chick, did you mess anything up?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You know, how did you?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
When I was younger, I used to get big checks
just you know, do wild stuff like like being young.
But I think it was just you know, like when
I was in my early twenties, it was just sometimes
they feel endless. It's like okay, oh yeah, yeah I
did that once twice, three times, four times a.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, it's all good a lifetime.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
I mean I think after I really understood like like
like the flow of economics, I said, Okay, well we're
going to save this. You know, I'm gonna always make
sure I have something because sometimes family members may have
situations and to you know that I've gotten nice things,
you know, but then I can't help the people I
love out.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
That was the piece I was like, okay, well, let
me let me.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Really, you've been in the business and gotten checks where
it's like you've had enough, you can you've crashed the
car a few times, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
And then it's like okay, because there's sometimes when people
learn and every lesson is a lesson learned, right, but
some learn hard lessons. So you was able to like, Okay,
I'm not gonna do that again. I'm not gonna do
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that again. I'm not gonna do that again. And it's
never too bad.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But you know when you just see the statements for
a whole year and you're like, well, I could have
really skipped a lot of those, you know, dinnerators or
traps or whatever else. You know, it's just ways that
we can, really And then when you tighten up when.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
You're young, sometimes we all made it, you know what
I'm saying. When you made it, we made it. Come
on with me, yeah, and start flying at home, bringing
with people. Then you see the breakdown. Wait, I pay
for that exactly. I pay for that meal yea. And
for Google oh, lord have mercy.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, so Leon, We're not gonna let you
go yet. You'll continue to hang out with us in
the neighborhood. We got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
This is big boy on demand, Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
All right now your big interview ladies and gentlemen, very
talented Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yes, I know you seem really locked in right now
with your career. How is dating like for you? Like
I wonder do you sing to the girls that you date, Like.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, yeah, well I mean always say if you date me,
you'll live forever through my songs, So.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
That can hurt me too, it's not yeah, yeah, you
never know.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You never know, but you know, honestly, I feel like
music is something I love to share. And if I'm
just at the house, you know, recording and catching the vibe,
I'm definitely on that, like come come check this song?
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Really what you think? You know?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
And then it's right there, like you got the voice.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If you want to play something acoustic, it's like right there,
it's right there. You know what I'm saying, And you
know how I love when you say your ex left
the you know, left the pets, you know what I'm saying,
and then you get inspired to do much. Yeah, exactly,
And I'm pretty sure your ex gotta be man, she
probably left the dogs.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It was like, yeah, you keep the dog. And now Platinum.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Talking about the Yeah, she'd probably be like, and now
you're there with big Boy, and.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It's all good energy. I try to stay good friends
with hell. Yeah, you know what I mean, like keep it,
but it's good to win.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Though you never made a song for a girl that
you've been within a.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Relationship, Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, it's got to be pieces of yeah, I mean,
but it's also just pieces of the relationships. Throughout a
lot of these records, I try not to go to
specific or you know, or even be vindictive about our situations.
I feel like, if anything, I'm just pointing out my
flaws a lot of times, like things that I could
have been doing better, you know, because I'm still learning
how to how to really get this whole thing right.
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You know, I'm not perfect, So not to be too
vindictive with the with the songwriting much that's kind of way.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, saying the name.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, even just like too much about like our situation.
I think it's more so about just finding good stories.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right, I'm a storyteller, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Sometimes I would be writing songs for other artists and
that has nothing to do with my story, but I
could imagine and build it out. So even for my
own life now as an artist, I feel like I
don't like giving people too much. My diary is per se,
and you got to know how much just like a
piece of it, like a drama.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Give them drama.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, that's what they want, just like a bad stroke
instead of like a real fine one. Because there's times
where music you can say, a man, I felt the
same way off of that, or that would have moved
I felt that as opposed to if I listen, I'm like, man,
this dude talking about she cut up his left. Jordan like,
oh yeah, this is real person.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
You're a real person.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Yeah right, those broad strokes are better, you know, as
a songwriter for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
And are you creating that? And of course I know
you are. I think I know the answer this, but
are you always creating?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah? A workaholic?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Like it's an obsession at this point, but it's great
that it you know, makes me money.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And people are like, how how do you know when
mut the album is done? When you know heal is done?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Because how do you know when it's say, okay, you
know what here deadlines?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Okay, let you work for like two years, right.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
So yeah, because I wasn't even trying to turn in
the album mud at first, I was like, man, it
just needs to be better, like we need more, like
you know, because I mean, you get in your head
you really want it to be great. And I would
spend a lot of time with Tying Yay, and like
I was seeing how great their stuff was, and I
wanted like my stuff to have like all the theatrics too.
And but I'm glad I you know, trusted my first
(28:43):
mind and just you know, let the world here.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
And I've been in with Yay.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
There's times man when I go in and I'm like, oh,
this is the one right here, right two days later
I can go back and I mean like it's like
it's gone right.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
So yeah, that's the thing that I had to kind
of like work out of my system a little bit,
you know, and just trust my first mining and realized
that this isn't my only opportunity to drop an album.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
You know there there's more to come. Leon. We're not
gonna let you go yet.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You'll continua hang out with us in the neighborhood. We
got more Leon Thomas in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Big Boys neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
This is big Boy on demand.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Big Boys neighborhood. If you know, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
If you don't, you soon find out. We got Leon
Thomas in the neighborhood. When when did you started picking
up instruments? Was that something early?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, it was early.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I did a movie called August Rush when Robin Williams
and Terrence remember Bro you get. But I also had
to learn how to play the guitar for the film,
so they sent me home with the guitar, and they
knew my dad played, so he helped me out. And
then I also had a coach and that's what actually
opened me up into into starting to write songs.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Once I had enough chorus, I could finally just like cook.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
You know, would you be tucked away with your guitar,
just tucked away you know how some people it's like
manages me and my guitar. Yeah, like like you you
could play take a little cat your little keyboard.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Would you but you can't take a piano to the beat,
you know what, I'm taking a stick and just vibe out. Man.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean I think it's it's my storytelling instrument. Yeah, man,
you know it's how I really draw out all of
my emotions.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And you know, it's definitely my therapy.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
When do you go from kind of consuming music, yeah,
to writing? And I asked all the time were you
were you writing poetry poems first?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Or did you know you were writing songs?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I knew I was writing songs I got. I got
a record deal with Columbia at thirteen, so like out
of nowhere, like a few of us, it's just like you.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And I know you're not doing it on purpose. This
is me and my therapy, but go ahead to tell
your truth. You know.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
They gave me a record deal, and all of a sudden,
it was like not just songs I was writing for fun.
It was like, Okay, well we might be putting this
out and it might have a million dollar budget, you know,
if it's really good. Luckily I didn't have to have
that pressure that early. I didn't start really releasing music
till till a lot later. But but yeah, that was
the beginning of it all.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Hey, man, who is it that makes sure that you
are a kid you go to public school like I
know my mom, Because at some point, Man, that could
become the pressure could become overwhelming.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Absolutely, you know, I think having a really strong foundation
people to talk to that also were in the industry,
so they understood if I felt bad because the performance
didn't go well or if I didn't get that auditioned.
You know, there was a level of understanding that my
parents had that really helped me be able to be
open with them, and I feel misunderstood.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Was music something that you kind of like a great
getaway for you too, because just creating is something like
even just what I do.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Man, I always, and I tell people, always had music.
You know. Wherever I went, I had music.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I had headphones, and I dissect music and I take
in music a little more different.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Than anyone else. You know.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm a credit reader in that part and everything, bro,
And I'm listening to pans and like, I enjoy music,
And I say, man, when we were homeless, I had music.
When an apartment build on, I had music. When I
was going to school, I had music when I was happy.
I had music always yeah, man, and so it was
always around me, was it always kind of around you?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
And like auld go to for you? Yeah, through ups
and downs. I mean I feel like that's the that's
my safe space, you know. It's why I've always had
a studio at the house. Always like made sure I
had an opportunity to be able to express myself. That's
why I learned how to engineer so I didn't have
to rely on anybody else. Yeah, and and yeah, it's
been it's been my safe place my entire life.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Leon, Thank you for coming into the neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
You can find that entire interview is right there Big
Boy TV our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
We got four channels right there.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
As you're watching any of our great content, make sure
you hit that subscribe button and make sure you watch
the entire interview with Leon thim as your big interview.
Y'all continue to hang with us in the neighborhood, Big
Boys Neighborhood. Adies, you're foying a Big Boy from Big
Boys Neighborhood on iHeartRadio. There's another in case you missed
(32:58):
the moment with us backstage with.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Brites and Taylor up in here.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Do you not enjoy more?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
But do you enjoy gaming just as much as like
performing or I want you to love.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
It way more like if God came down and said, son,
you can only pick one. I'm picking game, and every
time the game is really yeah. You can delete all
my music from the life and history like I don't
even care.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Damn delete it all. Thank you for listening. It is
you find a big Boy big Boy's neighborhood. You can
catch more of us right here on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
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