December 19, 2022 • 42 mins
On this Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:
Doug breaks down what happened during the final play of the Raiders-Patriots game when Chandler Jones ran in a winning touchdown with no time remaining.
NFL Analyst and former player Solomon Wilcots joins Doug to talk about the Patriots' collapse, the Bucs, Jeff Saturday, and all of the other major headlines around the NFL coming off of the weekend.
Doug and crew openly wonder why we all root against the Cowboys and what it is about the franchise that makes them so hatable.
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we usually like to come out of the box and
have these hard hitting you know, I know, Calher did
something the Patriots arrogance got to them like okay, or
really crummy call where the raiders a out of bounds,
catching them all in the end zone and then um,
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I don't know what Jakoby Meyers was doing, but like
one player's backward lateral, when you didn't have to, you
could have just ate the football and gone overtime. Does
not a bad franchise make. It's an incredibly dumb play.
There's no other way to say it, no other way
to say it. Uh stop me if you heard this before,
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but the Falcons lost the game that should have won.
Stopped me. Her. Anthony Davis is hurt again. I know,
I know Anthony Davis. He's never hurt. Actually, he's always hurt.
There's some talking Lebron James, their words to use talent
among the dumbest things written, dumb dumbest things written a
lot to get to any of the World Cup Final.
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The boys are all back. We're leading up into uh
to uh to the holiday scene to Christmas, second night
of Hannaka tonight, Happy Hannaka to you boys. I know none,
none of you three celebrate, but I do so hope
you're hope, you're good, Um buyer. When we look back
in a couple of months at this weekend, what do
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you think is the one we're gonna as? Sorry, Isaac
as as the most prominent thing that happened this weekend.
What do you think is is the is the thing?
Domestically it'll be the NFL. Internationally, it'll be the World Cup.
But in the NFL, what's it gonna be? Will it
be the greatest come back in NFL history? And the
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regular season by the Vikings? There could be so many
other things. Cowboys losing it overtime, I mean every single
should pick one. I know it's the whole thing. Cowboys
using to the Jags has predicted here huge, Minnesota has
come back huge. Um. You know what I'm gonna with
the Patriots loss was incredible. I'm gonna go with the
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Patriots Raiders lost. That'll be the that'll be talking about.
Like the Miracle of the Meadowlands back in the late
seventies early eighties between the Eagles and the Giants. Yeah,
J Stu as a Charger fan, what's that like? In
the At the exact same moment you had Mike Williams
catching a ball over two guys from a dart from
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Justin Herbert who didn't play great but um leading to
a game winning field goal, and the exact same moment
you had the Patriots collapse and by the way, they're
in competition for a playoff spot. That's the thing. You
went into the one o'clock games yesterday rooting for the Raiders,
which is a rare position for us because the Patriots
are in position to make the playoffs in the same
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seat and as the Chargers. So um almost simultaneously as
a Charger fans. I'm sitting with my son, who's an
even bigger Charger fan. You have Dicker the kicker lining
up to win a field goal for the win a
game on a field goal for the Chargers that they
played sloppy, and then you're looking at the red zone
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split screen and the Chandler Jones some how is running
into the endzone for the Raiders. Like, I don't know
if it could have been a better or bigger moment
for us twelve Charger fans in the world than that.
So I'm definitely gonna put that as a highlight of
the weekend for me. But there are so many layers
to that, Raiders Patriots saying we got to get into
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go ahead, give me another layer. No, no, I mean
just to play itself. There's so many things that are
funny and interesting and choking about just the last play
that we just kind of have to get into it.
Here's Bill Belichick. He had an exchange with reporter on
the final play, final play, and it was draw play.
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Was was an instinctive on ro mondre Was he given
the green light to pitch it if he had an
opening mistake? You know, played at worth Um. He was
asked about mac Jones in that final play. Was there
any coaching point after you had called the draw to
save the plays over just fall down or go out
of bounce? Yeah, well, obviously it would have been better
than resolve. Was that said? Yeah, Look, we've talked abo
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situational football. We talk about it every week, but we
obviously got to do a better job planning situational football
and not making critical mistakes in the game then place situationally,
how do you wave what was called as opposed to
taking a shot at the end? So taking a shot
at the end, Yeah, like a haill mary yards. He
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can't throw it that far? No, No, I mean remember
your fifty five yards away. You're not running up to
the line of scrimmage to throw it, right, I mean,
so he's got to throw the sixty two sixty three
yards back and he probably wouldn't get like, yeah, I
don't know why you run the football. I don't I
don't know why. But obviously mac Jones does not have
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that kind of does not have that that in the
in the arsenal. And maybe you think if he tries to,
you know, steroid jerk it and and throw it that far,
that ends up tweaking his shoulder. I don't know. Yes, Ramos,
do you think it's has a little bit to do?
And again, this would be a problem. I'm not saying
it takes away from what happened, but it would be
a problem if if this did happen. But is it
along the same lines, and this does happen in sports
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of the j R. Smith Lebron thing where he lost
track of time or maybe they thought it was the
track of anything. He just tried to he just Okay,
here's Jacobe Myers talking about the final play. Is there
any communication? Probably there's no communication. That's it, Like we
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all overthink it. I think so Jason, to go back
to your point, you're fifty five yards away from the line.
Is at the line of scrimmage. Remember you have to
both throw the ball into the end zone. So that's
eight plus year, like five yards back in the line
of scrimmage, right, so now you're talking about sixty three
in the air to throw it up there, and uh,
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I would guess that. Belichick's thing is like, look, normally
just gets knocked down. But if we watched the kick
six that as example, you have a bunch offensive lineman
that can't tackle. I mean, like, look at that where
where there was obviously was if Chandler Jones got the ball.
Here's the thing about Chandler Jones. Shouldn't he been pursuing
the football. It's almost like what was he doing there
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to begin with? It's almost like he was there to
prevent exactly what happened. So his instincts were wrong but
so perfectly right. Or he was being lazy and letting
somebody else do it and then the ball just came
to him. I mean, Jacoby, the whole Jacoby Meyers thing
was it was almost like as soon as he was
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a ladder lateral of the ball, like that play that
we practice every week, we're doing that. Now the problem is,
are you gonna throw it thirty yards behind you to
the slowest player on the field. I thought the whole
lateral game was getting into fast players hands. Maybe he thought,
oh Mac can now throw it into the end zone.
I'll throw it back to him. Like there's so many
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things wrong with that decision. But I also I just
I watched the play too, doesn't Jones might want to?
I mean he got pushed to the ground like a doll.
I mean he didn't even like could he have tackled
him by his feet or tripped him. He literally got
pushed into the ground and just kind of fell back
like he had no Like he's a football player, right
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he does. I mean he can't tackle the guy or
grab his feet. I mean, we see kickers and punters
all the time at least try to like take somebody out.
This guy just literally fell on his back. Do you
know how big Chandler Jones is. I know he's a
big guy, Doug, but how big Chandler Jones? Six five?
How many pounds to nine? Okay, but I mean your feet.
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You ever see guys get tackled on their feet they fall,
could have tripped trip him. I'm saying, just you know,
put it like try to grab a quarterback. He got
pushed down into the ground like a doll. He literally
got watched to play the guy. That's what it would
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look like if any quarterback tried to tackle him in
the NFL. Yes, yes, that's what it looks like. Isaac
might know this. But there are two plays that I
think about. Um I remember, for whatever reason, Aaron Rodgers
making like a game saving tackle on on on a
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mistake that has his teammate made. And then uh Roethlisberger
did it and against the Colts, Yes, at the old
Hoosier Dome on the was it the bettest fumble on
the goal one? Yes, it's like you got to do
whatever you possibly can to get that guy down. But
I guess both those quarterbacks have a lot of height
and weight on Mac Jones. He he did look like
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a ten year old on that on that play. That's
what they all look like. I'm just telling you, Like
he's like Mac Jones. He's not hasn't tackled anybody probably
since peewee football, maybe high school once. Like a guy's
running at you like do Chailler Jones like gigantic man
and when you're a defensive end and he's been a
real he's not a good one now, but he was
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a really good one in his day. Hey, really good
one in his day. Um, I just he's got long
arms and big hands, and he's strong as an ox,
and he's used to play with his hands. You've got
no chance in that confined a situation. I understand how
it looks and we're all clowning him, But I'm just
gonna tell you that's how it looks for most people.
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That's what it looks like. That's why the only guys
that can block those guys, the only ones are three
hundred and seventy pound left tackles. Right. That's why guys
that are that are running backs. That's why they make
it or don't make because they gotta learn to cut him.
He got two ft running start, and I mean, like,
I'm also Mac Jones. The balls in the air, you're
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my am? I good is that to me? And then
all of a sudden, guy catched and he's running right
at you. I'm watching the play. He got one step
to decide, and it was a bad effort tackling, no question,
no question, because he kind of fell back as he
reached out. But part of that is Chandler Jones is
you know, six ft five pounds, and he had a
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great stuff arm and just ran over him. That's what
it's like when a six ft five guy comes on
a non athlete. He probably also didn't think of ball
was gonna be chucked back his way. No, he probably
were just standing to go, oh, here here comes the
ball at me. What's this? I gotta I gotta direct
message from somebody who's like, we must be looking at
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different things. Where he's like, he's sending me it's inbounds,
and I'm looking at the same picture and there's white
dust on his on his toe. It looks like he
was out of bounds on the touchdown reception. May you
live long enough, you've seen it all and that that's
basically what that that deal is this weekend. It just
I've now officially seen it all. That that play happened.
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This is insanity. By the way Matt sends me that
photo of North Carolina, it is he is not in
bounds based upon that photo you sent me, I don't
believe anyway. Um, here's Chandler Jones. By the way you
talk about his role in the final play. Were in
the situation where we know that there was real time
looking the fun I think I saw Jacobe kind of
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spine up to throw it back you know, I was
just trying to look for the nearest guy and Matt
Jones right there, and I kind of went up there
and got it and broke a tackle on score. When
I called it. At first, I was thinking who's around me?
And I felt myself stumble a little bit after the
stiff arm, and I was thinking who do I pitch
it too? That. I was just trying to, you know,
keep the ball alive. And when I stayed up, I
just turned the jetsun and the rest was history. Crazy play.
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That is a that is an all time crazy play.
It has to be right. I mean, you gotta put
Jacoby Meyers up there with Leon Wett. Yes. And I
don't think that Chandler Jones even realized that he had
run over Mac Jones, because he just said, oh, I
stumbled a little like now, that was like a speed bump.
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It was like a speed bump. It was a human being.
He was a human speed bump. I just like, I'm
just gonna tell you like you can, that's probably what
it looks like for all of us trying to tackle
Chandler Jones. He just puts his long arm out there
and you can't even get your arms out to reach
to touch him. He puts his hand in your helmet
and has full of momentum and pushes you and MUSHes you,
and then you're like a speed bumped him. It's like
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the the what was that? That was a human being?
You just ran over? Chap, It's a human being. Fox
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com and within the I Heart Radio app. Um. Tom
Brady called the Bengals defense fairly tough, right last week,
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you guys remember that. Yeah, then he turned the ball
over a bunch and they lost the seventeen nothing Leader's
Brady after the game was for you know, my fault.
It was uncharacteristic. Um. You know one of the interceptions
was um, just a terrible throw and the other one
I think, you know, I made, I got hit and
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I was laying on the ground the ball landed his arms.
I don't I don't know what to make of it.
I mean, there's really only two things here. One this
is just the end. And unfortunately Tom Brady is one
of those guys that said he'd finish it AND's gonna
finish it. Probably ends up finishing it, maybe in the playoffs,
maybe not. I don't know, but yeah, it's gonna just
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come to some sort of sputtering end. Did throw for
three twelve, but not a Tom Brady type of season.
And the question becomes, does Tom Brady does he want
to write this the end of the script. Differently, I
and anyone sitting there speculating going they they know I
know Tom wants to come back. I know Tom doesn't
want to come like, we have no idea, no idea.
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Case in point, did you know that he was gonna
get divorced? Like did anybody have any idea that all
of a sudden, they're like door, divorce, done, moved on,
Like there's lots of stuff that I'm sure goes on
his life we don't know about. They got the Cardinals next,
that should be a win. Cardinals are very good. Panthers
should be a win, although in division and nothing's guaranteed.
And then they got the Falcons, who will find a
way to lose a game because they're the Falcons. But
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the Falcons and the the Panthers are only you know,
one game back to go to the playoffs. Does not
Obviously he's not having a lot of fun. The question
is how much fun is he not happen? Right? Um, well,
that means we'll probably see Gardner Minshew right, And there's
been people like, oh Gardner Minshew is better get they'd
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be just as good with Gardner Minshew. I actually think
in one game it'll be really hard to prepare for
Gardner Minshew because he's so different than Jalen obviously not
the dynamic athlete of Jalen Hurts, but still the guy
who has one football games in the NFL makes it
all the more all the more interesting. Um ah, yeah,
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I don't know. I mean, look, part of the Jail
and Hurts thing is you play football that way. You're
as good a running as he is. You're gonna get hit,
and you get hit in the pocket as well. But
you're gonna get hit and you're gonna get hurt. You're
gonna get hit, You're gonna get hurt. Let's get to
Salmon Wilcots. He joins this long time NFL and let's
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form a defense back in the National Football League. Gosh,
there's so many things to get to. Um. Can we
start with the Patriots laddering the ball backwards in a
tie game? Even though the coaches had not advised them
to do so. Have you ever seen an NFL game
and like that? No good to talk to you, Doug. No,
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we that one was unique. It was special. And this
is what listen. It's a feast or famine deal players
have throughout millennia, right with a hundred and three year
history of our league. Um, we are not robots, man,
we don't they players have the ability. How often do
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you see Patrick Mahomes at lib go off script? Um?
You ever heard the phrase how coaches sit over there?
They say no, no, no, no, go go go go go,
like they're always in that state of fluxing. They want
you to do it like we tell you to do it.
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But when you had lived and go off stripping, it works,
they love it. When you add live and go off
strip and it doesn't work, they hate it. But it
comes with the territory. My good friend Merril Hogs always
say coaches have all the power and no control because
you want the player steps across that line. Player, They
they gotta make it happen. They're living, breathing entities, and
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they do make mistakes. This was critical. It was really
more about a bad decision Uh, and left about execution,
Sal will coach our guests in the Doug out Lip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. How do the Colts
lose the thirty three to nothing lean, Yeah, that's like
a comedy of errors that takes multiple people making multiple mistakes. Um.
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And obviously, uh, it's a team that is literally struggling
to find itself. UM. And you know what I found
is the irony that Jeff Saturday is the interim coach,
having replaced Frank Right. Frank Wright UM currently prior to
that game anyway, was the guy who led the Bills
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on the largest come from behind win in NFL history
at thirty two points. He also held the greatest come
from behind victory in college when he was a Maryland Turk.
And he's still in some way linked to um Saturday's game,
having previously coached the team UM just a few months ago,
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just a few weeks ago that now has allowed the
largest come from behind victory in some way, the curse
of Frank Wright. Let's come back to haunt the Indianapolis coach.
But yeah, there there. It was a comedy of errors,
too many to mention, But it starts with turnovers. To
start with lack of discipline starts with a sense of
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panic when you sent that the game is getting tighter
and there's still a lot of time left on the clock.
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on um on the Cowboys.
You know, look, I think I do think we should
point out that the Jaguars, they have themselves a quarter.
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We thought he was considered one of the elite talents
come out of college football, and it last year was
such a mess. Who actually knows, but Lawrence has been really,
really good of late. Looks like the guy he was
built to be. Still the Dallas Cowboys, you go back
two weeks ago and there was a feeling like this
team might, as they get healthier, be an elite team
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in football. And look at what they did against the
Colts in the fourth quarter, and you know, lay a
half a hundred on then all right, you sleep on
through the through the Houston game. What do you make
of the Cowboys and how they're playing heading into this
Philadelphia game? You know, this is kind of like what
the Cowboys team we saw at the end of last
year that couldn't quite We're on the operation in a
two minute in a two minute drill, a team that
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led the league and penalties even though they were also
the league's leading scoring offense, and that there was just
some underpinnings right of lack of discipline, lack of attention
to detail. It's starting to resurface again. I know a
lot of people are gonna go for the low hanging
fru Dak. Prescott had two interceptions. You and I both
know only one of those were what we call a
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turnover worthy play. The path that hit off the receiver
and ended up in Rashawn Jenkin's hands on the runback
or touch that was not uh, that's not one that
you would pin on the quarterback um. And that's how
the turnovers. You have to categorize it the right way.
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If you're going to go at that Prescott, if you
really want to peel the onion on this from layer
by layer, you would have to start with the Cowboys defense.
You know, it's Cowboys defense that gave up a hundred
and ninety two yards on the ground Travis A ken
Is steel running do that defense. It's a Cowboys defense
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that allows Trevor Lawrence to carve him up forward three
hundred yards passing and four touchdowns on the debt um.
So at what point do we begin to have that conversation,
because I think it's more substantive, Doug, if you're trying
to figure out who are the Dallas Cowboys, and it's
got to be more than just about Hey, Dak Prescott
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as throw nine interceptions since weekend, the most in the NFL.
But if you go and pass through that, even with
Green Bay receivers are running the wrong route, got to
be an anticipatory I'm not making excuses for Dak Prescott.
I'm just saying to pin it all on that you're
really missing the point that there are other things that
are wrong with the Cowboys, and if you're trying to
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find a fix and you gotta go where the problem
really is, well, it's a very fair way of looking
at som. Wilcott's our guest here on the Doug out
Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay, tonight we're
gonna see those packers. Um they're taking on the Rams.
And that was amazing what what Baker could do in
two days. The two minute drill. On the other hand,
now you know, now the proof is in the pudding.
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They didn't play well for the first three and a
half quarters of that game, and some of that was
Raiders more than it was Rams. Now you get the Packers,
who their defense hasn't been great, and that may be good,
but you're going against backups in the Rams Dome team
in the cold, and you're finally a much healthier version
of yourselves. What are your thoughts on the Packers as
the back end of their schedule is not strong, but
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they haven't beaten good and bad teams this year. Packers
are just I think where they're at. It's really about
from the neck up. They're coming off to buy. They're
a little more healthier up front and um in in
front of Aaron Rodger's a little more healthier defensively. More importantly,
some of the young players, Christian Watson in particular, has
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gotten better. He's gotten enough success and production under his belt.
Where what we always say about rookies, show me who
they are at the end of their rookie campaign those
last few games. That's the guy that really should be
starting to compete and being successful in winning and producing
for the team. And that's exactly what's happened with him.
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So you essentially have a different Green Bay pactice team
and you probably have had um all season long. They've
come into themselves a little bit, and I think they're
playing with more confidence. They're playing with greater continuity. They
should win this game against the Rounds going away. Now
they don't. You know, it's indicative of what the league
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really is. These games come down to them to the
last bit. But I expect Aaron Rodgers and the Packers
to really play phenomenally, particularly if they run the offense
through um, you know, Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon.
That's where they found on most of the success offensively
and defensively. Now their path rush have to come alive.
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I like the secondary, but the past rush has been
very inconsistent. But as of late, they're getting healthy and
they have been playing better they have. They have definitely
been players. Some willcotts our guests here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, the Bills won
the Dolphins. Laws, let's heart with the Dolphins because they
showed a lot of fight and they played well in
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a I mean like a third state road game in
the cold. They're a warm weather team. But still now
they have lost three in a row. They still have Uh,
they gotta return home for the Packers. Then they gotta
go to New England take out the Patriots and bad
weather again. What are your thoughts on the Dolphins now
after losing three in a row? Yeah? Do you know,
I remember when they lost three in a row earlier
in the year that was without too came back and
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then they won five straight. Now and they find themselves
this is the second time, uh the season where they've
been doing a three game losing street. But this time
it's happening with two us UM tough games against San Francis,
Show the Charges in now Buffalo UM, and they've got
three tough ones coming up against Green Bay, New England
and the Jet Uh. To me, this is about Mike
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McDaniel realizing that football in the NFL is played differently
late in the year than it is in September and October.
You know what that means, Doug. The Dolphins have got
lean more into their run game. Even against the Bills
the other night with Raheem Monsters, they were able to
run the ball, but in critical moments in the game
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they're still are throwing it. What are you doing? What
do you I mean? The rug This is the time
of year and that kind of weather. Do the run
game is important. It's important. It dictates the tempo of
the game. It dictakes terms of physicality and if you
want to slow down that pass for us that was
just keeing off onto in this game, run the ball,
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start leaning into those big guys, fast guys want to
come off the corner. You've gotta This is a team
that's not running the ball nearly enough in the Miami
th Office. Yet when they do run it, they can
be effective. They're just they're not as balanced as you
would like. And think about this time of year. They've
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got um two games that are gonna be you know,
or at least one in New England's gonna be in
cold weather. Of course, they played Green Bay at home
and the Jets at home, but if you were to
get into the postseason, that's gonna be in and and
and in climate inclement weather. You've got to be able
to have more balance to be that's where they've kind
of gotten away from themselves. You're to run the ball
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a little bit more against San Francisco and be more effective.
I think you got a shot of surviving a game
like that. Certainly, the score was so close against the charges.
I don't know why they got away from it. The
running game, I mean they I don't know why they
got away from running. The score was not really indicative
of how close that game was, probably because they didn't
run the football to to to your point, what about
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the Bills? Conversely? You see a Bills team that they
have been great, and Josh Allen obviously very talented, but
there's times they can't stop the run, and offensively they're
very one dimensional. I know they've beat in Kansas City
the past two regular seasons, and they probably should have
been last in the playoffs. But how convinced to you
that they can be the best team in the a
f C. You know, I'm convinced only because they may
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It may have to go through or to your park. Right,
If the Bills are getting home field advantage, do you
like their chance? If they're not, then I'm not ready
to say that they're the best team in the a
f C. I think the top three teams are the Bills,
the Chiefs, and the Bengals. In what order We're still
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gonna find out. Um, but you know they're gonna the
Bills are gonna play in Cincinnati here in a minute,
in another week or so, and that game will be interesting,
right uh, to see how those two teams match up.
I've been waiting to see Josh Allen and Joe Burrow
on the field at the same time. I think both
teams it's got maybe an area too that you wish
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we're a little bit better. Goalsh Allen in this game
against Miami, he was there leading Russia and of course
the leading past, you know. So that's kind of how
it is for them. The Bengals struggle to run the
balls at times, but when Zach Taylor sticks with it,
they tend to break through. With Joe Mixton and to
mar j p Ryan, I think he's learned from that
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and you saw some of that in the game Sunday
against Tampa. First half they couldn't run it a lick,
but they didn't get away from it. In the second
half they continued to stay with it and you saw
on that final drive where the run game they literally
took over the line of scrimmin and won that game
going away with that final drive with met with Mitchell
(28:49):
Wilcox scoring that touchdown. He nearly walked in because the
play fake worked to perfection. Because they have been pounding
the run games on that drive. UM, help me out.
I mean played defensive back in the NFL. Wide receivers
lined up, points to the the line judge, he gets
the thumb up. He's good to go. So what how
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did Terry McLaren get a get a penalty there at
the end of the game, which look, I know the
Redskins had reins. The Commanders had two more plays to score,
but they're at the one yard line and they punch
it in. It ends up changed the game. How how
how is there no account I don't understand how the
official throws a flag there. There's no excuse. It was egregious, UM.
(29:34):
Terry McLaren, as he's taught by every wide receiver, by
every coach. You check with the official, the UM. If
you listen to Terry McLaren after the game, he said,
I check with the official. He says, nope, you need
to move up. And then he moved up. He said
he checked with the official again, and officials didn't signal anything,
UM as if it was illegal, and then they snapped
(29:56):
the ball. As soon as they snapped the ball, he
threw the flat So the official UM should have told him, Hey,
you're not up and up. It's so technical that there's
no receiver who every time directly on the balls. You're
covering up the attackle even a little bit. It's so
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um non. It's not substantive to the play. What was
the play? Brian Robinson one yard grund plunged into the
into the melt of the ends, all right in the middle.
What did his alignment have to do with the substance
of the play. This is where context is necessary. You're
gonna say he was an inch off the line. I'm
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gonna can aalize him for that and take away a touchdown. Yeah,
I don't hoble horrible. Should have never happened. Should have
never happened because he did move up, he corrected, He
checked with you, which is what the players taught to do.
I know, I don't. I don't understand it. I really,
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I really really don't understand it. That was that one
was bad. Hey Solomon, you're the best man. Hop yourself
a merry Christmas. We appreciate you, joints. We love your
passion and knowledge of the game. Thank thanks again, You're
the best March friend. Take care and we'll talk to you.
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(31:47):
to the Jags, which was actually one of my predictions.
And um, what's interesting about it is now, this is
two straight weeks where we've talked so much about the
Cowboys and the Eagles, as if they're one in one
b and how they're gonna match up this weekend, and
yet we forget that the Cowboys have other games to play,
(32:08):
and with those other games haven't always looked great. I'll
just say this, like we the conversation is almost always
about the Cowboys. In this case, I feel like it
should be about the Jaguars. We were told Trevor Lawrence
should be a really, really good one for a long time,
and last year he was not and we wondered if
it was coaching or if it's Trevor Lawrence. And appears
(32:30):
that it was not Trevor Lawrence. You know. Uh. And
as much as Zack Zack Dak and the two turnovers
were bad, there were moments where he was very, very good.
But for the most part he was the second best
quarterback on the field. Um. But it's not for lack
of a running game, right They ran Pollard and Elliott
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combined for like one thirty that's enough. You know, Dak
had three touchdowns but two interceptions. And you know they're
just the second half. They couldn't stop Jackson ball at all.
You're up at the half on the road, and that's
a game you should find a way to close out
against the Jaguars team that he can't allow him to
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believe they actually have a chance. But they did and
got the ball to start the second half down seven
go down, marchdown, catch to get a field goal. Cowboys
got a field goal to match Um. Then they throw
a pick and the Cowboys kicking another few goal keep
adding points but couldn't put in the end zone. But
(33:32):
that's when they scored a touchdown, get interception, score another touchdown,
And I thought the most disappointing part of the game
was when the Cowboys at the end of the third
quarter they get the ball after they scored the first
two possessions, then throw a pick on the second play,
and then then they got uh what I thought was
(33:55):
really really tight right handed to Zeke twice and then
Dak ends up scrambling because he's under darrest and to
three and out and now all of a a sudden, Jackson
Mill has all the momentum in the world. But but look,
the thing is this, if you're it's okay to freak out.
If you're the Cowboys, I think you just gotta feel
really good. If you're the Jaguar, it's like, yeah, he
we do in fact have a dude. We do have
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a dude. Enjoy watching the Cowboys lose, though, That's that's
always fun, especially when they're talked about so much, you know,
almost do you enjoy it as much as I enjoy
it watching the Cowboys lose? Why is that? Um? Because
I think they're one of those teams that everybody just
assumes is going to be good every year, and they
(34:38):
just put him into there there. I think they're one
of those dichotomy. Teams were like you either really really
love them there that's your team, or you really there's
no middle ground for the Cowboys. You hate him or
you love them. And they're always put into that like, oh,
they're gonna be great this year, and you have no
idea if they're gonna be great or not. You want
them to be great. The NFL wants them to be
great because it's the Cowboys, Americ quote unquote America's team.
(34:59):
I don't know if they're still of that, but that's
what I grew up as the America's team. And um, yeah,
they're just stuck. Everybody just handing the stuff to him
this year. And then they lose and they played horrible
the last two weeks, right, Doug, I mean this gained
the loss and last week they should have lost to
the Texans, correct, yes, yes, And and last week they
got a pass because you're like, well it's Texans. As
long as they won, who cares. This week they don't
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get it passed. But then they beat the Eagles. All
will be forgotten. All we've forgotten. J st. What where
are you in the Cowboys? I think that the last
time they were irrelevant? Now this is the last time
they went even playing in an NFC title game, let
alone won the Super Bowl. Um, the internet wasn't um
consumed by the public like the Internet was used by
(35:44):
people in college campuses, but it was wonky. There was
a dial up just thinking of how long it's been
since they have played a meaningful game, um in the postseason.
It should speak to just how over highped they are
on a weekly basis, um in in our country, because
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that's what I kind of resent. It's just how long
it has been. And I think about when I started
using the Internet and it just seems so long ago. Um.
So that's kind of where I'm at with the Cowboys.
I'm annoyed by the over hype as well. But there's
something about Dak Prescott too that I enjoy watching fail.
I don't know what it is, because he was, you know,
(36:26):
like a fourth or fifth rounder, overachieved, got the big deal.
But I don't know. There's something about Dak that I
root for him to uh to do poorly and he
for the second straight week, you through a late interception
and this one end up costing Oh yeah, yeah, alright,
loo you root for against Dak Prescott. Well, first of all, Um,
(36:49):
I just got off the phone just to follow up
on something we were discussing earlier. Confirmation that the J. C.
Jackson arrest was because of a non violent family issue.
Not violent. Uh, I've evolved. Only get you only get listen,
you don't get if it's not violent. You don't get
arrested for sending a mean text or something like that. Right,
(37:09):
how about me? How about a mean email to a coworker.
I didn't I didn't tell you. How would you know
I sent that. I'm just kidding You're You're not the one,
but someone involved in the show actually has. So it's
a blind item for you. You you you hurt me.
It's awful quiet in that other studio. By the way,
(37:29):
I've noticed, I've actually let's let's have this therapy session
on aired. Somebody sent the mean email to you about
you what happened? So, h You know, our beloved Dan
Buyer is a little under the weather. So he sent
out an email to a couple of us saying that
Isaac's gonna cover for me, and you know I just
(37:50):
wrote back reply all um, Dan, please feel better and
hurry back, because I couldn't cover toast if he was
melted butter, Oh, my response has already been filed with
human resources. No. Well, here, here's my main issue, to
(38:13):
be honest with you, My main issue, as I pull
up the actual email, is that he preceded that by saying,
but let's be honestly. Ilo couldn't cover toast if he
was melted butter. My issue was with the poor grammar.
But let's let's be honest, not let's be honestly. So
(38:36):
the rest of it actually had no problem with. But
back to uh, your question. Actually, I've evolved on Dak Prescott.
I used to be delighted to see Prescott's and the
Cowboys postseason failures, but just how awful of an ending
the way it was last season against the forty niners.
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That got it all out of my system. And I've
come around a little bit. So now you like it,
you like him? I wouldn't say, I, I it's not
so much about Dak, It's more about the Cowboys. I
actually don't have a problem with Dak, so yeah, I have.
I have more of a problem with the Cowboys as
a brand, I guess, uh than Dak personally. Hm, I
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get it. I would agree there, and I do think
that Dak he handles himself, purports himself very well. I
think what and I could be wrong here case too,
so I don't want to speak out of turn. I
think Jase Doo's thing is like he was such a
feel good story but then the holdout and you know now,
I think Jason Judges isn't based upon how much he makes,
(39:40):
not how good a guy he is, or or any
of that story. Maybe any any of that accurate? Yeah? Maybe,
um yeah, that could be it. I don't know what
it is. I can't quite put my finger on it.
I just enjoy watching him fail. Strange one. Maybe it's
just me. I'm I'm a sick person. You are a
sick person, and these things are incredibly accurate. You are
(40:02):
sick and you are twisted. But you know it's um.
My brother often reminds me of of the um oh god,
what's the Why am I forget what's the TV show
on Apple Plus Soccer? Why am I ted lasso? The
ted Lasso quote of what's the what's the happiest animal
on Earth? Do you know what the answer to that
(40:23):
one is? There? JS two? I forget goldfish, Goldfish's goldfish?
Can't remember anything that happened has no no longer, no
no short long term memory. There's no memory, right, and
so as athletes, you gotta be a goldfish, and I
think we as fans will be a goldfish. They win
this weekend that we know talk of it none, almost
like it didn't happen. Jacksonville is like witness protection program
(40:47):
for good teams, bad teams. It doesn't matter, and it's
It's probably perfect for Trevor Lawrence because although they had
a mess last year with Urban Meyer, it wasn't like
he was good, but nobody paid attention because it was Jacksonville.
I think part of that you give a little bit
of a pass to the Cowboys, who He's like, yeah,
I mean, would you have taken Jacksonville as seriously? I
think I'd like to, especially considering how poorly they performed.
(41:10):
But that's not the reality too, So you're not gonna
buy into the whole Micah Parsons distraction last week caused
them to lose yesterday? What what what? I'm trying to
look up the odds for the game. It looks like
the favorites, Yeah, the favorites, Well, it's three and a
half to four point favorites. We're gonna have four point favorites.
(41:32):
I don't see them winning that game. I do it
might show up in the j STU team parlay this night,
am I J two STU team party? How did your
j S two team STUT team parley do this week? Well,
France was the first of two teams, so yeah, and
then the Ravens were the other. And the Ravens did
not cover. They did not cover, right, they lost the
Browns a horrible game, by the way, Yes, but you
(41:56):
gave the j STU team parlay and now they lost
both games. That one's on you. Blood on your hands.
There you go, Okay, I feel bad about yourself. You're
not a very good human being right now. Hopefully you'll
you'll you'll earn your earn it back
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have these hard hitting you know, I know, Calher did
something the Patriots arrogance got to them like okay, or
really crummy call where the raiders a out of bounds,
catching them all in the end zone and then um,
(01:04):
I don't know what Jakoby Meyers was doing, but like
one player's backward lateral, when you didn't have to, you
could have just ate the football and gone overtime. Does
not a bad franchise make. It's an incredibly dumb play.
There's no other way to say it, no other way
to say it. Uh stop me if you heard this before,
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but the Falcons lost the game that should have won.
Stopped me. Her. Anthony Davis is hurt again. I know,
I know Anthony Davis. He's never hurt. Actually, he's always hurt.
There's some talking Lebron James, their words to use talent
among the dumbest things written, dumb dumbest things written a
lot to get to any of the World Cup Final.
(01:47):
The boys are all back. We're leading up into uh
to uh to the holiday scene to Christmas, second night
of Hannaka tonight, Happy Hannaka to you boys. I know none,
none of you three celebrate, but I do so hope
you're hope, you're good, Um buyer. When we look back
in a couple of months at this weekend, what do
(02:08):
you think is the one we're gonna as? Sorry, Isaac
as as the most prominent thing that happened this weekend.
What do you think is is the is the thing?
Domestically it'll be the NFL. Internationally, it'll be the World Cup.
But in the NFL, what's it gonna be? Will it
be the greatest come back in NFL history? And the
(02:31):
regular season by the Vikings? There could be so many
other things. Cowboys losing it overtime, I mean every single
should pick one. I know it's the whole thing. Cowboys
using to the Jags has predicted here huge, Minnesota has
come back huge. Um. You know what I'm gonna with
the Patriots loss was incredible. I'm gonna go with the
(02:52):
Patriots Raiders lost. That'll be the that'll be talking about.
Like the Miracle of the Meadowlands back in the late
seventies early eighties between the Eagles and the Giants. Yeah,
J Stu as a Charger fan, what's that like? In
the At the exact same moment you had Mike Williams
catching a ball over two guys from a dart from
(03:12):
Justin Herbert who didn't play great but um leading to
a game winning field goal, and the exact same moment
you had the Patriots collapse and by the way, they're
in competition for a playoff spot. That's the thing. You
went into the one o'clock games yesterday rooting for the Raiders,
which is a rare position for us because the Patriots
are in position to make the playoffs in the same
(03:34):
seat and as the Chargers. So um almost simultaneously as
a Charger fans. I'm sitting with my son, who's an
even bigger Charger fan. You have Dicker the kicker lining
up to win a field goal for the win a
game on a field goal for the Chargers that they
played sloppy, and then you're looking at the red zone
(03:56):
split screen and the Chandler Jones some how is running
into the endzone for the Raiders. Like, I don't know
if it could have been a better or bigger moment
for us twelve Charger fans in the world than that.
So I'm definitely gonna put that as a highlight of
the weekend for me. But there are so many layers
to that, Raiders Patriots saying we got to get into
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go ahead, give me another layer. No, no, I mean
just to play itself. There's so many things that are
funny and interesting and choking about just the last play
that we just kind of have to get into it.
Here's Bill Belichick. He had an exchange with reporter on
the final play, final play, and it was draw play.
(04:39):
Was was an instinctive on ro mondre Was he given
the green light to pitch it if he had an
opening mistake? You know, played at worth Um. He was
asked about mac Jones in that final play. Was there
any coaching point after you had called the draw to
save the plays over just fall down or go out
of bounce? Yeah, well, obviously it would have been better
than resolve. Was that said? Yeah, Look, we've talked abo
(05:00):
situational football. We talk about it every week, but we
obviously got to do a better job planning situational football
and not making critical mistakes in the game then place situationally,
how do you wave what was called as opposed to
taking a shot at the end? So taking a shot
at the end, Yeah, like a haill mary yards. He
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can't throw it that far? No, No, I mean remember
your fifty five yards away. You're not running up to
the line of scrimmage to throw it, right, I mean,
so he's got to throw the sixty two sixty three
yards back and he probably wouldn't get like, yeah, I
don't know why you run the football. I don't I
don't know why. But obviously mac Jones does not have
(05:41):
that kind of does not have that that in the
in the arsenal. And maybe you think if he tries to,
you know, steroid jerk it and and throw it that far,
that ends up tweaking his shoulder. I don't know. Yes, Ramos,
do you think it's has a little bit to do?
And again, this would be a problem. I'm not saying
it takes away from what happened, but it would be
a problem if if this did happen. But is it
along the same lines, and this does happen in sports
(06:03):
of the j R. Smith Lebron thing where he lost
track of time or maybe they thought it was the
track of anything. He just tried to he just Okay,
here's Jacobe Myers talking about the final play. Is there
any communication? Probably there's no communication. That's it, Like we
(06:25):
all overthink it. I think so Jason, to go back
to your point, you're fifty five yards away from the line.
Is at the line of scrimmage. Remember you have to
both throw the ball into the end zone. So that's
eight plus year, like five yards back in the line
of scrimmage, right, so now you're talking about sixty three
in the air to throw it up there, and uh,
(06:45):
I would guess that. Belichick's thing is like, look, normally
just gets knocked down. But if we watched the kick
six that as example, you have a bunch offensive lineman
that can't tackle. I mean, like, look at that where
where there was obviously was if Chandler Jones got the ball.
Here's the thing about Chandler Jones. Shouldn't he been pursuing
the football. It's almost like what was he doing there
(07:08):
to begin with? It's almost like he was there to
prevent exactly what happened. So his instincts were wrong but
so perfectly right. Or he was being lazy and letting
somebody else do it and then the ball just came
to him. I mean, Jacoby, the whole Jacoby Meyers thing
was it was almost like as soon as he was
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a ladder lateral of the ball, like that play that
we practice every week, we're doing that. Now the problem is,
are you gonna throw it thirty yards behind you to
the slowest player on the field. I thought the whole
lateral game was getting into fast players hands. Maybe he thought,
oh Mac can now throw it into the end zone.
I'll throw it back to him. Like there's so many
(07:49):
things wrong with that decision. But I also I just
I watched the play too, doesn't Jones might want to?
I mean he got pushed to the ground like a doll.
I mean he didn't even like could he have tackled
him by his feet or tripped him. He literally got
pushed into the ground and just kind of fell back
like he had no Like he's a football player, right
(08:11):
he does. I mean he can't tackle the guy or
grab his feet. I mean, we see kickers and punters
all the time at least try to like take somebody out.
This guy just literally fell on his back. Do you
know how big Chandler Jones is. I know he's a
big guy, Doug, but how big Chandler Jones? Six five?
How many pounds to nine? Okay, but I mean your feet.
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You ever see guys get tackled on their feet they fall,
could have tripped trip him. I'm saying, just you know,
put it like try to grab a quarterback. He got
pushed down into the ground like a doll. He literally
got watched to play the guy. That's what it would
(08:53):
look like if any quarterback tried to tackle him in
the NFL. Yes, yes, that's what it looks like. Isaac
might know this. But there are two plays that I
think about. Um I remember, for whatever reason, Aaron Rodgers
making like a game saving tackle on on on a
(09:14):
mistake that has his teammate made. And then uh Roethlisberger
did it and against the Colts, Yes, at the old
Hoosier Dome on the was it the bettest fumble on
the goal one? Yes, it's like you got to do
whatever you possibly can to get that guy down. But
I guess both those quarterbacks have a lot of height
and weight on Mac Jones. He he did look like
(09:34):
a ten year old on that on that play. That's
what they all look like. I'm just telling you, Like
he's like Mac Jones. He's not hasn't tackled anybody probably
since peewee football, maybe high school once. Like a guy's
running at you like do Chailler Jones like gigantic man
and when you're a defensive end and he's been a
real he's not a good one now, but he was
(09:55):
a really good one in his day. Hey, really good
one in his day. Um, I just he's got long
arms and big hands, and he's strong as an ox,
and he's used to play with his hands. You've got
no chance in that confined a situation. I understand how
it looks and we're all clowning him, But I'm just
gonna tell you that's how it looks for most people.
(10:16):
That's what it looks like. That's why the only guys
that can block those guys, the only ones are three
hundred and seventy pound left tackles. Right. That's why guys
that are that are running backs. That's why they make
it or don't make because they gotta learn to cut him.
He got two ft running start, and I mean, like,
I'm also Mac Jones. The balls in the air, you're
(10:36):
my am? I good is that to me? And then
all of a sudden, guy catched and he's running right
at you. I'm watching the play. He got one step
to decide, and it was a bad effort tackling, no question,
no question, because he kind of fell back as he
reached out. But part of that is Chandler Jones is
you know, six ft five pounds, and he had a
(10:56):
great stuff arm and just ran over him. That's what
it's like when a six ft five guy comes on
a non athlete. He probably also didn't think of ball
was gonna be chucked back his way. No, he probably
were just standing to go, oh, here here comes the
ball at me. What's this? I gotta I gotta direct
message from somebody who's like, we must be looking at
(11:17):
different things. Where he's like, he's sending me it's inbounds,
and I'm looking at the same picture and there's white
dust on his on his toe. It looks like he
was out of bounds on the touchdown reception. May you
live long enough, you've seen it all and that that's
basically what that that deal is this weekend. It just
I've now officially seen it all. That that play happened.
(11:41):
This is insanity. By the way Matt sends me that
photo of North Carolina, it is he is not in
bounds based upon that photo you sent me, I don't
believe anyway. Um, here's Chandler Jones. By the way you
talk about his role in the final play. Were in
the situation where we know that there was real time
looking the fun I think I saw Jacobe kind of
(12:01):
spine up to throw it back you know, I was
just trying to look for the nearest guy and Matt
Jones right there, and I kind of went up there
and got it and broke a tackle on score. When
I called it. At first, I was thinking who's around me?
And I felt myself stumble a little bit after the
stiff arm, and I was thinking who do I pitch
it too? That. I was just trying to, you know,
keep the ball alive. And when I stayed up, I
just turned the jetsun and the rest was history. Crazy play.
(12:24):
That is a that is an all time crazy play.
It has to be right. I mean, you gotta put
Jacoby Meyers up there with Leon Wett. Yes. And I
don't think that Chandler Jones even realized that he had
run over Mac Jones, because he just said, oh, I
stumbled a little like now, that was like a speed bump.
(12:44):
It was like a speed bump. It was a human being.
He was a human speed bump. I just like, I'm
just gonna tell you like you can, that's probably what
it looks like for all of us trying to tackle
Chandler Jones. He just puts his long arm out there
and you can't even get your arms out to reach
to touch him. He puts his hand in your helmet
and has full of momentum and pushes you and MUSHes you,
and then you're like a speed bumped him. It's like
(13:06):
the the what was that? That was a human being?
You just ran over? Chap, It's a human being. Fox
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Brady called the Bengals defense fairly tough, right last week,
(13:30):
you guys remember that. Yeah, then he turned the ball
over a bunch and they lost the seventeen nothing Leader's
Brady after the game was for you know, my fault.
It was uncharacteristic. Um. You know one of the interceptions
was um, just a terrible throw and the other one
I think, you know, I made, I got hit and
(13:51):
I was laying on the ground the ball landed his arms.
I don't I don't know what to make of it.
I mean, there's really only two things here. One this
is just the end. And unfortunately Tom Brady is one
of those guys that said he'd finish it AND's gonna
finish it. Probably ends up finishing it, maybe in the playoffs,
maybe not. I don't know, but yeah, it's gonna just
(14:12):
come to some sort of sputtering end. Did throw for
three twelve, but not a Tom Brady type of season.
And the question becomes, does Tom Brady does he want
to write this the end of the script. Differently, I
and anyone sitting there speculating going they they know I
know Tom wants to come back. I know Tom doesn't
want to come like, we have no idea, no idea.
(14:37):
Case in point, did you know that he was gonna
get divorced? Like did anybody have any idea that all
of a sudden, they're like door, divorce, done, moved on,
Like there's lots of stuff that I'm sure goes on
his life we don't know about. They got the Cardinals next,
that should be a win. Cardinals are very good. Panthers
should be a win, although in division and nothing's guaranteed.
And then they got the Falcons, who will find a
way to lose a game because they're the Falcons. But
(14:58):
the Falcons and the the Panthers are only you know,
one game back to go to the playoffs. Does not
Obviously he's not having a lot of fun. The question
is how much fun is he not happen? Right? Um, well,
that means we'll probably see Gardner Minshew right, And there's
been people like, oh Gardner Minshew is better get they'd
(15:20):
be just as good with Gardner Minshew. I actually think
in one game it'll be really hard to prepare for
Gardner Minshew because he's so different than Jalen obviously not
the dynamic athlete of Jalen Hurts, but still the guy
who has one football games in the NFL makes it
all the more all the more interesting. Um ah, yeah,
(15:42):
I don't know. I mean, look, part of the Jail
and Hurts thing is you play football that way. You're
as good a running as he is. You're gonna get hit,
and you get hit in the pocket as well. But
you're gonna get hit and you're gonna get hurt. You're
gonna get hit, You're gonna get hurt. Let's get to
Salmon Wilcots. He joins this long time NFL and let's
(16:03):
form a defense back in the National Football League. Gosh,
there's so many things to get to. Um. Can we
start with the Patriots laddering the ball backwards in a
tie game? Even though the coaches had not advised them
to do so. Have you ever seen an NFL game
and like that? No good to talk to you, Doug. No,
(16:26):
we that one was unique. It was special. And this
is what listen. It's a feast or famine deal players
have throughout millennia, right with a hundred and three year
history of our league. Um, we are not robots, man,
we don't they players have the ability. How often do
(16:49):
you see Patrick Mahomes at lib go off script? Um?
You ever heard the phrase how coaches sit over there?
They say no, no, no, no, go go go go go,
like they're always in that state of fluxing. They want
you to do it like we tell you to do it.
(17:09):
But when you had lived and go off stripping, it works,
they love it. When you add live and go off
strip and it doesn't work, they hate it. But it
comes with the territory. My good friend Merril Hogs always
say coaches have all the power and no control because
you want the player steps across that line. Player, They
they gotta make it happen. They're living, breathing entities, and
(17:33):
they do make mistakes. This was critical. It was really
more about a bad decision Uh, and left about execution,
Sal will coach our guests in the Doug out Lip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. How do the Colts
lose the thirty three to nothing lean, Yeah, that's like
a comedy of errors that takes multiple people making multiple mistakes. Um.
(17:56):
And obviously, uh, it's a team that is literally struggling
to find itself. UM. And you know what I found
is the irony that Jeff Saturday is the interim coach,
having replaced Frank Right. Frank Wright UM currently prior to
that game anyway, was the guy who led the Bills
(18:19):
on the largest come from behind win in NFL history
at thirty two points. He also held the greatest come
from behind victory in college when he was a Maryland Turk.
And he's still in some way linked to um Saturday's game,
having previously coached the team UM just a few months ago,
(18:39):
just a few weeks ago that now has allowed the
largest come from behind victory in some way, the curse
of Frank Wright. Let's come back to haunt the Indianapolis coach.
But yeah, there there. It was a comedy of errors,
too many to mention, But it starts with turnovers. To
start with lack of discipline starts with a sense of
(19:01):
panic when you sent that the game is getting tighter
and there's still a lot of time left on the clock.
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on um on the Cowboys.
You know, look, I think I do think we should
point out that the Jaguars, they have themselves a quarter.
(19:22):
We thought he was considered one of the elite talents
come out of college football, and it last year was
such a mess. Who actually knows, but Lawrence has been really,
really good of late. Looks like the guy he was
built to be. Still the Dallas Cowboys, you go back
two weeks ago and there was a feeling like this
team might, as they get healthier, be an elite team
(19:42):
in football. And look at what they did against the
Colts in the fourth quarter, and you know, lay a
half a hundred on then all right, you sleep on
through the through the Houston game. What do you make
of the Cowboys and how they're playing heading into this
Philadelphia game? You know, this is kind of like what
the Cowboys team we saw at the end of last
year that couldn't quite We're on the operation in a
two minute in a two minute drill, a team that
(20:04):
led the league and penalties even though they were also
the league's leading scoring offense, and that there was just
some underpinnings right of lack of discipline, lack of attention
to detail. It's starting to resurface again. I know a
lot of people are gonna go for the low hanging
fru Dak. Prescott had two interceptions. You and I both
know only one of those were what we call a
(20:26):
turnover worthy play. The path that hit off the receiver
and ended up in Rashawn Jenkin's hands on the runback
or touch that was not uh, that's not one that
you would pin on the quarterback um. And that's how
the turnovers. You have to categorize it the right way.
(20:47):
If you're going to go at that Prescott, if you
really want to peel the onion on this from layer
by layer, you would have to start with the Cowboys defense.
You know, it's Cowboys defense that gave up a hundred
and ninety two yards on the ground Travis A ken
Is steel running do that defense. It's a Cowboys defense
(21:07):
that allows Trevor Lawrence to carve him up forward three
hundred yards passing and four touchdowns on the debt um.
So at what point do we begin to have that conversation,
because I think it's more substantive, Doug, if you're trying
to figure out who are the Dallas Cowboys, and it's
got to be more than just about Hey, Dak Prescott
(21:28):
as throw nine interceptions since weekend, the most in the NFL.
But if you go and pass through that, even with
Green Bay receivers are running the wrong route, got to
be an anticipatory I'm not making excuses for Dak Prescott.
I'm just saying to pin it all on that you're
really missing the point that there are other things that
are wrong with the Cowboys, and if you're trying to
(21:50):
find a fix and you gotta go where the problem
really is, well, it's a very fair way of looking
at som. Wilcott's our guest here on the Doug out
Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay, tonight we're
gonna see those packers. Um they're taking on the Rams.
And that was amazing what what Baker could do in
two days. The two minute drill. On the other hand,
now you know, now the proof is in the pudding.
(22:14):
They didn't play well for the first three and a
half quarters of that game, and some of that was
Raiders more than it was Rams. Now you get the Packers,
who their defense hasn't been great, and that may be good,
but you're going against backups in the Rams Dome team
in the cold, and you're finally a much healthier version
of yourselves. What are your thoughts on the Packers as
the back end of their schedule is not strong, but
(22:35):
they haven't beaten good and bad teams this year. Packers
are just I think where they're at. It's really about
from the neck up. They're coming off to buy. They're
a little more healthier up front and um in in
front of Aaron Rodger's a little more healthier defensively. More importantly,
some of the young players, Christian Watson in particular, has
(22:57):
gotten better. He's gotten enough success and production under his belt.
Where what we always say about rookies, show me who
they are at the end of their rookie campaign those
last few games. That's the guy that really should be
starting to compete and being successful in winning and producing
for the team. And that's exactly what's happened with him.
(23:19):
So you essentially have a different Green Bay pactice team
and you probably have had um all season long. They've
come into themselves a little bit, and I think they're
playing with more confidence. They're playing with greater continuity. They
should win this game against the Rounds going away. Now
they don't. You know, it's indicative of what the league
(23:40):
really is. These games come down to them to the
last bit. But I expect Aaron Rodgers and the Packers
to really play phenomenally, particularly if they run the offense
through um, you know, Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon.
That's where they found on most of the success offensively
and defensively. Now their path rush have to come alive.
(24:01):
I like the secondary, but the past rush has been
very inconsistent. But as of late, they're getting healthy and
they have been playing better they have. They have definitely
been players. Some willcotts our guests here on the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, the Bills won
the Dolphins. Laws, let's heart with the Dolphins because they
showed a lot of fight and they played well in
(24:23):
a I mean like a third state road game in
the cold. They're a warm weather team. But still now
they have lost three in a row. They still have Uh,
they gotta return home for the Packers. Then they gotta
go to New England take out the Patriots and bad
weather again. What are your thoughts on the Dolphins now
after losing three in a row? Yeah? Do you know,
I remember when they lost three in a row earlier
in the year that was without too came back and
(24:47):
then they won five straight. Now and they find themselves
this is the second time, uh the season where they've
been doing a three game losing street. But this time
it's happening with two us UM tough games against San Francis,
Show the Charges in now Buffalo UM, and they've got
three tough ones coming up against Green Bay, New England
and the Jet Uh. To me, this is about Mike
(25:10):
McDaniel realizing that football in the NFL is played differently
late in the year than it is in September and October.
You know what that means, Doug. The Dolphins have got
lean more into their run game. Even against the Bills
the other night with Raheem Monsters, they were able to
run the ball, but in critical moments in the game
(25:35):
they're still are throwing it. What are you doing? What
do you I mean? The rug This is the time
of year and that kind of weather. Do the run
game is important. It's important. It dictates the tempo of
the game. It dictakes terms of physicality and if you
want to slow down that pass for us that was
just keeing off onto in this game, run the ball,
(25:57):
start leaning into those big guys, fast guys want to
come off the corner. You've gotta This is a team
that's not running the ball nearly enough in the Miami
th Office. Yet when they do run it, they can
be effective. They're just they're not as balanced as you
would like. And think about this time of year. They've
(26:17):
got um two games that are gonna be you know,
or at least one in New England's gonna be in
cold weather. Of course, they played Green Bay at home
and the Jets at home, but if you were to
get into the postseason, that's gonna be in and and
and in climate inclement weather. You've got to be able
to have more balance to be that's where they've kind
of gotten away from themselves. You're to run the ball
(26:39):
a little bit more against San Francisco and be more effective.
I think you got a shot of surviving a game
like that. Certainly, the score was so close against the charges.
I don't know why they got away from it. The
running game, I mean they I don't know why they
got away from running. The score was not really indicative
of how close that game was, probably because they didn't
run the football to to to your point, what about
(27:01):
the Bills? Conversely? You see a Bills team that they
have been great, and Josh Allen obviously very talented, but
there's times they can't stop the run, and offensively they're
very one dimensional. I know they've beat in Kansas City
the past two regular seasons, and they probably should have
been last in the playoffs. But how convinced to you
that they can be the best team in the a
f C. You know, I'm convinced only because they may
(27:25):
It may have to go through or to your park. Right,
If the Bills are getting home field advantage, do you
like their chance? If they're not, then I'm not ready
to say that they're the best team in the a
f C. I think the top three teams are the Bills,
the Chiefs, and the Bengals. In what order We're still
(27:45):
gonna find out. Um, but you know they're gonna the
Bills are gonna play in Cincinnati here in a minute,
in another week or so, and that game will be interesting,
right uh, to see how those two teams match up.
I've been waiting to see Josh Allen and Joe Burrow
on the field at the same time. I think both
teams it's got maybe an area too that you wish
(28:06):
we're a little bit better. Goalsh Allen in this game
against Miami, he was there leading Russia and of course
the leading past, you know. So that's kind of how
it is for them. The Bengals struggle to run the
balls at times, but when Zach Taylor sticks with it,
they tend to break through. With Joe Mixton and to
mar j p Ryan, I think he's learned from that
(28:28):
and you saw some of that in the game Sunday
against Tampa. First half they couldn't run it a lick,
but they didn't get away from it. In the second
half they continued to stay with it and you saw
on that final drive where the run game they literally
took over the line of scrimmin and won that game
going away with that final drive with met with Mitchell
(28:49):
Wilcox scoring that touchdown. He nearly walked in because the
play fake worked to perfection. Because they have been pounding
the run games on that drive. UM, help me out.
I mean played defensive back in the NFL. Wide receivers
lined up, points to the the line judge, he gets
the thumb up. He's good to go. So what how
(29:12):
did Terry McLaren get a get a penalty there at
the end of the game, which look, I know the
Redskins had reins. The Commanders had two more plays to score,
but they're at the one yard line and they punch
it in. It ends up changed the game. How how
how is there no account I don't understand how the
official throws a flag there. There's no excuse. It was egregious, UM.
(29:34):
Terry McLaren, as he's taught by every wide receiver, by
every coach. You check with the official, the UM. If
you listen to Terry McLaren after the game, he said,
I check with the official. He says, nope, you need
to move up. And then he moved up. He said
he checked with the official again, and officials didn't signal anything,
UM as if it was illegal, and then they snapped
(29:56):
the ball. As soon as they snapped the ball, he
threw the flat So the official UM should have told him, Hey,
you're not up and up. It's so technical that there's
no receiver who every time directly on the balls. You're
covering up the attackle even a little bit. It's so
(30:17):
um non. It's not substantive to the play. What was
the play? Brian Robinson one yard grund plunged into the
into the melt of the ends, all right in the middle.
What did his alignment have to do with the substance
of the play. This is where context is necessary. You're
gonna say he was an inch off the line. I'm
(30:40):
gonna can aalize him for that and take away a touchdown. Yeah,
I don't hoble horrible. Should have never happened. Should have
never happened because he did move up, he corrected, He
checked with you, which is what the players taught to do.
I know, I don't. I don't understand it. I really,
(31:02):
I really really don't understand it. That was that one
was bad. Hey Solomon, you're the best man. Hop yourself
a merry Christmas. We appreciate you, joints. We love your
passion and knowledge of the game. Thank thanks again, You're
the best March friend. Take care and we'll talk to you.
So happy holidays. Do you this is the best of
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(31:47):
to the Jags, which was actually one of my predictions.
And um, what's interesting about it is now, this is
two straight weeks where we've talked so much about the
Cowboys and the Eagles, as if they're one in one
b and how they're gonna match up this weekend, and
yet we forget that the Cowboys have other games to play,
(32:08):
and with those other games haven't always looked great. I'll
just say this, like we the conversation is almost always
about the Cowboys. In this case, I feel like it
should be about the Jaguars. We were told Trevor Lawrence
should be a really, really good one for a long time,
and last year he was not and we wondered if
it was coaching or if it's Trevor Lawrence. And appears
(32:30):
that it was not Trevor Lawrence. You know. Uh. And
as much as Zack Zack Dak and the two turnovers
were bad, there were moments where he was very, very good.
But for the most part he was the second best
quarterback on the field. Um. But it's not for lack
of a running game, right They ran Pollard and Elliott
(32:50):
combined for like one thirty that's enough. You know, Dak
had three touchdowns but two interceptions. And you know they're
just the second half. They couldn't stop Jackson ball at all.
You're up at the half on the road, and that's
a game you should find a way to close out
against the Jaguars team that he can't allow him to
(33:12):
believe they actually have a chance. But they did and
got the ball to start the second half down seven
go down, marchdown, catch to get a field goal. Cowboys
got a field goal to match Um. Then they throw
a pick and the Cowboys kicking another few goal keep
adding points but couldn't put in the end zone. But
(33:32):
that's when they scored a touchdown, get interception, score another touchdown,
And I thought the most disappointing part of the game
was when the Cowboys at the end of the third
quarter they get the ball after they scored the first
two possessions, then throw a pick on the second play,
and then then they got uh what I thought was
(33:55):
really really tight right handed to Zeke twice and then
Dak ends up scrambling because he's under darrest and to
three and out and now all of a a sudden, Jackson
Mill has all the momentum in the world. But but look,
the thing is this, if you're it's okay to freak out.
If you're the Cowboys, I think you just gotta feel
really good. If you're the Jaguar, it's like, yeah, he
we do in fact have a dude. We do have
(34:17):
a dude. Enjoy watching the Cowboys lose, though, That's that's
always fun, especially when they're talked about so much, you know,
almost do you enjoy it as much as I enjoy
it watching the Cowboys lose? Why is that? Um? Because
I think they're one of those teams that everybody just
assumes is going to be good every year, and they
(34:38):
just put him into there there. I think they're one
of those dichotomy. Teams were like you either really really
love them there that's your team, or you really there's
no middle ground for the Cowboys. You hate him or
you love them. And they're always put into that like, oh,
they're gonna be great this year, and you have no
idea if they're gonna be great or not. You want
them to be great. The NFL wants them to be
great because it's the Cowboys, Americ quote unquote America's team.
(34:59):
I don't know if they're still of that, but that's
what I grew up as the America's team. And um, yeah,
they're just stuck. Everybody just handing the stuff to him
this year. And then they lose and they played horrible
the last two weeks, right, Doug, I mean this gained
the loss and last week they should have lost to
the Texans, correct, yes, yes, And and last week they
got a pass because you're like, well it's Texans. As
long as they won, who cares. This week they don't
(35:21):
get it passed. But then they beat the Eagles. All
will be forgotten. All we've forgotten. J st. What where
are you in the Cowboys? I think that the last
time they were irrelevant? Now this is the last time
they went even playing in an NFC title game, let
alone won the Super Bowl. Um, the internet wasn't um
consumed by the public like the Internet was used by
(35:44):
people in college campuses, but it was wonky. There was
a dial up just thinking of how long it's been
since they have played a meaningful game, um in the postseason.
It should speak to just how over highped they are
on a weekly basis, um in in our country, because
(36:05):
that's what I kind of resent. It's just how long
it has been. And I think about when I started
using the Internet and it just seems so long ago. Um.
So that's kind of where I'm at with the Cowboys.
I'm annoyed by the over hype as well. But there's
something about Dak Prescott too that I enjoy watching fail.
I don't know what it is, because he was, you know,
(36:26):
like a fourth or fifth rounder, overachieved, got the big deal.
But I don't know. There's something about Dak that I
root for him to uh to do poorly and he
for the second straight week, you through a late interception
and this one end up costing Oh yeah, yeah, alright,
loo you root for against Dak Prescott. Well, first of all, Um,
(36:49):
I just got off the phone just to follow up
on something we were discussing earlier. Confirmation that the J. C.
Jackson arrest was because of a non violent family issue.
Not violent. Uh, I've evolved. Only get you only get listen,
you don't get if it's not violent. You don't get
arrested for sending a mean text or something like that. Right,
(37:09):
how about me? How about a mean email to a coworker.
I didn't I didn't tell you. How would you know
I sent that. I'm just kidding You're You're not the one,
but someone involved in the show actually has. So it's
a blind item for you. You you you hurt me.
It's awful quiet in that other studio. By the way,
(37:29):
I've noticed, I've actually let's let's have this therapy session
on aired. Somebody sent the mean email to you about
you what happened? So, h You know, our beloved Dan
Buyer is a little under the weather. So he sent
out an email to a couple of us saying that
Isaac's gonna cover for me, and you know I just
(37:50):
wrote back reply all um, Dan, please feel better and
hurry back, because I couldn't cover toast if he was
melted butter, Oh, my response has already been filed with
human resources. No. Well, here, here's my main issue, to
(38:13):
be honest with you, My main issue, as I pull
up the actual email, is that he preceded that by saying,
but let's be honestly. Ilo couldn't cover toast if he
was melted butter. My issue was with the poor grammar.
But let's let's be honest, not let's be honestly. So
(38:36):
the rest of it actually had no problem with. But
back to uh, your question. Actually, I've evolved on Dak Prescott.
I used to be delighted to see Prescott's and the
Cowboys postseason failures, but just how awful of an ending
the way it was last season against the forty niners.
(38:56):
That got it all out of my system. And I've
come around a little bit. So now you like it,
you like him? I wouldn't say, I, I it's not
so much about Dak, It's more about the Cowboys. I
actually don't have a problem with Dak, so yeah, I have.
I have more of a problem with the Cowboys as
a brand, I guess, uh than Dak personally. Hm, I
(39:18):
get it. I would agree there, and I do think
that Dak he handles himself, purports himself very well. I
think what and I could be wrong here case too,
so I don't want to speak out of turn. I
think Jase Doo's thing is like he was such a
feel good story but then the holdout and you know now,
I think Jason Judges isn't based upon how much he makes,
(39:40):
not how good a guy he is, or or any
of that story. Maybe any any of that accurate? Yeah? Maybe,
um yeah, that could be it. I don't know what
it is. I can't quite put my finger on it.
I just enjoy watching him fail. Strange one. Maybe it's
just me. I'm I'm a sick person. You are a
sick person, and these things are incredibly accurate. You are
(40:02):
sick and you are twisted. But you know it's um.
My brother often reminds me of of the um oh god,
what's the Why am I forget what's the TV show
on Apple Plus Soccer? Why am I ted lasso? The
ted Lasso quote of what's the what's the happiest animal
on Earth? Do you know what the answer to that
(40:23):
one is? There? JS two? I forget goldfish, Goldfish's goldfish?
Can't remember anything that happened has no no longer, no
no short long term memory. There's no memory, right, and
so as athletes, you gotta be a goldfish, and I
think we as fans will be a goldfish. They win
this weekend that we know talk of it none, almost
like it didn't happen. Jacksonville is like witness protection program
(40:47):
for good teams, bad teams. It doesn't matter, and it's
It's probably perfect for Trevor Lawrence because although they had
a mess last year with Urban Meyer, it wasn't like
he was good, but nobody paid attention because it was Jacksonville.
I think part of that you give a little bit
of a pass to the Cowboys, who He's like, yeah,
I mean, would you have taken Jacksonville as seriously? I
think I'd like to, especially considering how poorly they performed.
(41:10):
But that's not the reality too, So you're not gonna
buy into the whole Micah Parsons distraction last week caused
them to lose yesterday? What what what? I'm trying to
look up the odds for the game. It looks like
the favorites, Yeah, the favorites, Well, it's three and a
half to four point favorites. We're gonna have four point favorites.
(41:32):
I don't see them winning that game. I do it
might show up in the j STU team parlay this night,
am I J two STU team party? How did your
j S two team STUT team parley do this week? Well,
France was the first of two teams, so yeah, and
then the Ravens were the other. And the Ravens did
not cover. They did not cover, right, they lost the
Browns a horrible game, by the way, Yes, but you
(41:56):
gave the j STU team parlay and now they lost
both games. That one's on you. Blood on your hands.
There you go, Okay, I feel bad about yourself. You're
not a very good human being right now. Hopefully you'll
you'll you'll earn your earn it back
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