February 10, 2023 • 38 mins
Doug Gottlieb is live on the final day of Radio Row in Phoenix ahead of Super Bowl 57! Doug chats with Broncos HC Sean Payton, HoF Champ Bailey and 49ers QB Brock Purdy! Doug puts a cap on a wild week from Arizona, a special Super Bowl 57 edition of The Gambler, and so much more!
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sitting down now. He's the new head coach of the
Denver Broncos. And interesting he's joined us on behalf of Zebras.
But you have ja Zebras. How many Super Bowls did
the Zebras cost you in New Orleans? Listen, we're kind
of putting it in our rear view mirror. But look
real quickly, and you know this, um nine years with
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the NFL, they just extended an agreement. Um, they're the
bar code the company that you when you scan products
at the store, you get the price. So every one
of us is familiar with those barcodes. They're black and
white stripes since the words Zebra. But the NFL began
working with them too. Two things really provide you know,
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an in studio view, we get next gen stats now right,
twenty two miles an hour. There's player went Um, we
were able to measure a lot of different things that
we weren't able to, you know, exactly in the past.
And then for me, it's it's really evaluating the data,
looking at practice tape and and and and and matching
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it with like the workload training camp. You know, we're
trying to eliminate soft tissue injuries. So you know, these
chips are in the shoulder pads, and they just give
us more information than we used to have. We're smarter
when we practice. The question about trying to limit soft
tissue injuries, like the less hitting and the less uh
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kind of invasive training camp I think many people would
think would lead to less injuries hasn't worked out that one. No,
that's a myth really, so so how do you how
do how do you take this data and use it
when well, I think we're learning to train differently now,
and we're learning to train in a little bit of
a wavelength form. We build up, we peek, and when
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when we gradually go down, we build up and we pee.
He can then you know, so you're you're moving in
a certain direction, but you're understanding that every practice is
not the exact same workload every day like it you know,
like well, no one knew any better twenty years ago. Um.
And then when you can quantify, when you can look
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at data and say, hey, I know when training camp,
the average receiver travels six miles of practice two and
a half hour practice. But I have an outlier here,
I've got I used Brandon Cooks as an example because
it happened and I'm looking at Brandon, He's at eight,
and I'm like, why is he at eight when everyone
else is at six and a half. Well, he's doing
these other routes, and but he's having hamstring issues. And
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so look, it's just a way to get exactness to
what you think. And so you know when you used
to say, hey, let's back off the reps today, why
did you actually do that? And and so this gives
me a little bit more info. Um, and then there's
so many other areas. You know, the chips are in
the football's now, it's gonna be any year now, we're
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going to see a ball across the plane of a
goal line and we're gonna see that goal line light up. Finally, Yeah,
that's right. And let the official then just look at
the knee. Right now, he's got to look at the
knee and the ball. And half the time it's like
it's like baseball, where the home plate umpire has to
call ball and strike, and yet you also have to
see if the bat cross the plane right, if he?
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If he? If you can't do both, No, you can't write.
And and here's the thing. When you watch an NBA
game and a guy shoots with no time left on
the shot clock. And the one thing I love is
the back of the backboard just lights up right at
the double zeros, and then we all just look at
the hand and the ball and if it's in the air,
it's good, and if it's in the hand, it's not.
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And so picture the goal line lighten up, or the
end zone lighten up, or the upper the uprights really
make more sense, right, just just they light they light up,
and all we have to look for is the knee
and that's the same thing is looking for the ball
in the hand. Sean Payton, head coach defor Broncos Jonas
got lip show, Fox Sports Radio. When you step back
for a year, okay, I'm sure there are two things
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that happened. Some of the things you believed become more pronounced,
and some of the things you believed you might start
to question. Let's start to something that you question that
maybe you've evolved on stepping away from from head coaching
for a year. What would that be? Yeah, man, More
and more, when you watch these games, and we watch
them all in the green room, it's a little bit
more challenging because every game is on and they have
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us focused on maybe two of the games that you know,
Terry Bradshaw was looking at this one. How he's on
this one? Michael? Whatever, Um, you're because you want to
have discussion at halftime, and so what's the topic gonna be?
You're watching it? But I think this, um number one,
we spend way too much time discussing not analytics, but
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the idea that analytics are only two point plays in
fourth down. That's absurd, right, And then Troy and I
had this discussion Aikman, who does a fantastic job with
Joe on ESPN. It's hard to get used to saying that, right,
but um, you know it's it's in the booth, and
and Troy would make the comment, hey, analytics suggests this
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is the right decision. And I text him once and
I said, who's analytics? You know? In other words, because
we're trained to evaluate the evaluator when we're in scouting,
like the scout might say I see this player being this,
and then I've got it. Before I buy into that,
I've got to understand, Hey do I do I? How
do I feel about the evaluator? So who's analytics? Number one?
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There's not this universal code of science that says this.
And then secondly, more importantly, we've used analytics for years
with player procurement. You know, height, weight, size, speed at
the position, one of the maximums minimums. We've used analytics
relative to you know, first and second down frequency alerts.
You know, you play CFL football, that's different. In the
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CFL you you have to put on third down. And
so generally speaking, better offenses in our league, UH make
first downs before they get to third down, if that
makes sense. Um, So a lot a lot's made on
those topics. And and so I watch in game mistakes
or management mistakes made a lot by younger head coaches.
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And I don't know if they if they're influenced by
either their own department or but if you tell me, uh,
it's right to go for it on fourth down. And
I have an example of that. We're playing the Rams
back when they were in St. Louis, and someone asked
me once, why didn't you go for it on fourth down?
And I said, well, were you watching the left tackle matchup?
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And Robert Quinn had beating this rookie of ours sacked
the quarterback twice. Like it's not baseball, it's not batter
pitcher there's eleven different people out there, and there's variables
that take place. And how's this game going. I'm watching
people go for two in the first half, and if
it's a high scoring game, you just go back and
then kick the extra point. If it's a lower scoring
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I don't look at the two point chart of the
third quarter. And if it's a low scoring game, I'm
going to consider it, you know, somewhere in that third quarter.
If it's a high scoring game, I'm gonna look at
it until the fourth quarter. What is something that you've
always believed? And maybe I don't know, maybe a question,
But then in watching it all play out, now your
your your belief is even more fervent. You see it.
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This is this is the way. And stepping back for
a year proved it's well, let's not ever lose track
of Look, the best team I thought the two best
teams in football played last week in the NFC Championship game,
and obviously San Francisco dealt with the injuries. But defense
is always gonna matter and a run game is always
gonna matter. Um And so we hear all the time
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about this move to the this style of and and
when we talk about quarterback play. Ultimately, Uh, Sunday Mahomes
is gonna have to make plays in the pocket and
Hurts is gonna have to make plays in the pocket. Uh,
there's a different dimension with both of them. They can move.
We've always valued the quarterback that can move. Bill Walsh
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valued Steve Young. Steve Young would take off and run
for sixty eight yards, you know. And so nothing has
changed that way relative to where the game's going. Um,
now we're getting we're getting from the college game a
lot more shotgun offense. Um. And yet I still find
myself comfortable with that. But I find myself with with
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a fair amount offense that I like under center. And
so their convictions you have, and there's some you know
that you have to have cover guys because the game
has changed relative to the rules. That's a you know,
so pass protectors, pass rushers, cover players, those those are
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the hardest players to find in free agency, and because
of that, their price tags are higher than the other positions.
The other thing we saw last weekend is we saw
two quarterbacks, and obviously with San Francisco we saw to
three quarterbacks. Are two quarterbacks in the other stuff, but
but both of those teams were constructed with quarterbacks not
making a ton of money and allows them to spread
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all that money and have incredible rosters. Yeah, your challenge
is different, and your challenge is a lot like the
challenge of the Chiefs and other teams. What is that
like to approach? Well, history, so let's let's talk about
that for a second. I don't think we've had a
Super Bowl winner on a mega deal quarterback contract. Um,
we saw New England do it, but Tom was taking
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a discount and I said, you know he was making million.
So well, but ultimately there's and there's a pizza pie,
and and there's you know, there's sections to it, right
and and if if let's say there's seven of you
at the frat party or you know, and you order
just one big pizza and you know, the big guy
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over here has to eat a half of it, not
not let left for mail, not a lot left for
everyone else. So there's a happy medium there. I think
it's a challenge. I think the teams that historically when
we won, Drew was on an early deal. Um you
just when when Seattle one Russell was on an early deal.
When uh Philly won, they had a couple of different
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young quarterbacks and they obviously were one was hurt and
they were playing the other guy on a young deal.
Like keep going through these winners last year, um, who
won it last year? Not not a young deal, not
not young, not not a young but it wasn't a
mega deal. But still and and so but you look
at how they fallen apart, and one of the reasons
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they falling apart was they were so top heavy with
their scholarship, with their Uh, all of us would choose
to win one and then fall apart. We we would
do that all over again. But I think that, um,
I think that it's a it's a delicate balance. And
and so when you go back to talking about Brady,
and we talked about all the things that this guy accomplished,
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one of the one of the best things that he
ever did was recognized the importance of winning. And that
became just as important. Now it helps when your wife's
a supermodel making money too, right, But but that was
one of the things that you really looked at and
you saw someone who was unselfish relative, you know, and
it was you know, good teammate, and he recognized that
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winning was going to be first and foremost to his legacy,
and I think that Uh yeah, I think I think
that's important. Well, we're all gonna miss having you at Fox,
but we're all gonna enjoy watching you a coach. I'm
kind of a charger guy, so there'll be two games
a year where I will speach here. Listen, I got it,
I got Those are the those are the only two
games that's on the job. Thank you so much, and
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thanks to Zebra Technology for allowing us to have you.
Thank you, appreciate you always. Oh you're You're the best.
That's Sean Payton. It's like a yearly Uh. He always
spent some time with us before and you get a chance,
not even necessary pre interviewing him, but dan as, you
get to experience just talking football with a guy who
loves it and and really watched it. And there's no like,
there's no like platitudes. When he's like talking about real
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football stuff, it's so so cool and refreshing on a
week where a lot of times guys are more like,
let me just get through every internew very forthcoming. That's
why he was a success on TV in his short stint.
But he's always been that way. I'm not familiar with that.
You're not familiar with that? How great was that answer
that he gave all week on the Russell Wilson having
his own coach. He just kept saying, I'm not familiar
with it, like, well, it's the fifth time you've been
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asked about it today, I'm not familiar with that. That's
that's that's kind of a it really really is. Be
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On a warm summer's evening train Mountain nowhere, Dan, buyer
your gambler pick of the weekend, Doug, It's gonna be
based on what goes down Sunday at State Farm Stadition Sunday. Uh.
You may have listened to the I Want Your Flex podcast. Uh.
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You may listen to the podcast on this show. You
may listen to many of the other interviews that I've done.
I cannot move away from the Philadelphia Eagles, the slight
favorite that they are. I think they win straight up.
I think they cover the minimal points that they are
getting with one Jalen Hurts being the most valuable player
of Super Bowl fifty seven. All right, Um, John Ramos, Well,
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I'm gonna have to go with um. I'm also on
the Philadelphia Eagles bandwagon. Jalen Hurts is rushing over fifty
yards is the prop bet. I think Jaylor Hurts is
gonna run like almost to a hundred yards. I say
take that over on Jalen Hurts at forty nine and
a half. If you listen to the show, you know
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that Jason Stewart, he doesn't just give us one picks.
He gives us multiple picks. We call it the j
stew Team parlay. Chase stew what he got? Oh, it's
Chase two team parlay today. This is an NBA one.
You can get your bet sound like right now to um?
You know Utah is getting eight and a half on
the road in Toronto. They've had a rough week, I know,
but Utah is gonna uh, I like it and a
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half and then you're gonna parway them from my Jase
two team part way with Phoenix. Actually Indiana giving two
and a half to Phoenix tonight, Indiana giving two and
a half to Phoenix. And I had a message for
the Phoenix fans. H Walter Davis is not gonna be
walking dot doors. Kevin Ritz, I'm walking that door night
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either Pacers to Pacers to the Jazz. Jase T Team
parway to Pacers to the Jazz. Uh Okay, I love that.
I too, am gonna go with the association and uh
with teams that are there very much in flux um.
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The the l A Clippers take on the Milwaukee Bucks,
and the Bucks last night dismantled the l A Lakers.
The Clippers are coming off a loss home loss to
the new look Dallas Mavericks. I think that's motivation for
this is a pick them. Give me the Clippers and
give me the under. The under. That's my same game parlay.
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As for the Super Bowl, I think the Philadelphia Eagles
is the better team. I think they have I agree
with all all the sentiment you heard off air is
the same one you heard on air, only not just
not as polite in that Janala Hurts is just okay.
But the team is awesome and their scheme is awesome
for what he does. That said, I'm a Charger fan
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and I've seen this movie. I know how it ends.
It usually ends with Pat Mahomes winning the game. Between
uh Andy Reid's ability to play well off a bye
week which means extra weeker prepparness, or their screen game
because their offensive line up be under durest, or the
fact that they have Pat Mahomes that nobody else does.
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I admit the Eagles are better. Wouldn't surprise me to
see you get out early. But I just I've seen
too many of these things. My homes finds a way,
mahomes wins. Give me the chiefs down your money when
you're sitting the gown, and what are the deis do?
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Let's get to Dan Buyer for was there a dying
bird singing in that version? I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell.
John Robbot had I had to keep a load. The
lower voice got you. I got you to do two dougs.
Pick tonight. John is probable to play. Chris Middleton not
gonna go for Milwaukee, so UH could aid your clippers
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pick right there. Although we never know which Clippers, It's
fair enough. We don't know what Mavericks are gonna play
because Luca is not going to play tonight against Sacramento.
Reports earlier today so that he was going to go
return from that Hell contusion, but he is not going
to go for the Mavericks. A couple of other NBA
notes additions to the All Star Game because of injuries
Dear and Fox of the King's timber Wolves. Guard Anthony
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Edwards and Raptors forward Pascal Siakam, now named to the NBA,
are named as NBA All Stars. Tiger Woods will make
a season debut on the PGA Tour next week at
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since the Open Championship last summer. Right now on the
course at the Waste Management opened second round played John
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Jason Day is currently just one shot back. Rory McElroy
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the te off now and Cliff Kingsbury back in the States,
Doug Gonna speak with the Houston Texans about their offensive
coordinator opening under new head coach Damiko Ryan, and I'm
gonna throw it back to you, but I do have
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a story about our next guest. Okay, there is a
reason why Champ Bailey, hold on, we gotta move. This
champion is just really uncomfortable with that. I did well.
I'm a charger guy. Last thing I want to see
as you are that. But whatever. My quick story is this.
When I was in college, I got to meet in Sync.
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Remember in Sync, you know, justin timber Lake. I got
to meet them because of Champ Bailey because I had
a number four Nike Georgia jersey that was read and
some guy want to contest, and they told in Sync's
management team find the guy in the red shirt. He's
going to come on stage and get to meet the band.
I was wearing a red shirt. The guy grabbed me
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and I've got pictures with the group rocking my Nike
number four Champ Bailey Georgia jersey. True story. I'm glad
I can help with it. He's a he's a Pro
football Hall of Famer. He's an absolute legend in both
the college game, and he's a dog defending two time
national champion Georgia Bulldogs. Of course, uh he's a uh
he was a skin and then a Bronco and grated
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at everything he did in the Lake Championley joined the
Something Dull Show. How are you? I am? Great man?
Great to be here. Um. I would imagine with the
announcement of the new induction class for the prof Blahball
Hall of Fame, coming back is I saw you catched
up with LaVar Arrington. A little bit of reunion for
for for everybody. You know, you always gonna see guys
you hadn't seen in a while. I mean, I've seen
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LaVar over the last two few months, so lucky for me.
You know, that's more of a rekindle. But at the
same time, man, it's guys like Nick Ferguson that I
played with and you know, Brian Dawkins, all my former
teammates that I get to run into, Brian Mitchell last night.
I mean, it's just it's always the real to think,
oh damn, you know, here go my boys again. You know,
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it's like being in the locker room all over again. Um,
I am gonna ask a bad memory, uh the Super
Bowl in New York, Okay, but that that was one
that just never had the fumbled first snap. Um. Did
I remember doing that Super Bowl and it was Radio row,
but it was much tighter confines because it's in downtown
New York and all anybody was talking about was Peyton
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in the offense. But obviously, uh, that Seattle defense was nasty.
When did you know that it was? It was? It
was going bad. Probably halftime, I would say halftime, and
maybe right after because if if you remember that game,
we came out a halftime and gave up a uh
kickoff return for a touchdown. I mean Percy Harmon took
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it to the house. I mean, so it was it
was pretty The writing was on the raw wall early
with the you know, the snap. Things just kept happening.
But you know, as a player, you are you always
stay optimistic in the moment. But when you look back, man,
it got bad really fast. It did get bad really fast.
What what is that like? Though years later now in
your career and all the all the rightful rewards, you've
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gotten to have that missing piece. I mean, it sucks,
but you know, I looked back and I don't have
any regrets. I mean, I'm proud of the way I played,
how I was accountable to my team, my teammates. You
know in the memories that I created, the money I
made to be able to take care of my family.
I mean, that's those are all good things. I mean
I could dwell on the bad things that happened and
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things I didn't you know, I felt short of. But
you know I'm never looking back with a negative aspect
on how everything turned out. Um, I want to ask
you about about my homes. Um, what do you do
when if you were back there, considering the amount of
time Oftentimes you gotta remain in coverage and he's running
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around back there, and you know you're in scramble mode.
If if you're back there, what do you do? Well,
For one, you gotta pay your boys up front to
to get to him, right, you gotta give them more
incentives to get to him because the pass rushes everything.
But we all know how special he is and how
he extends plays. But as a defender man, you just
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have to you gotta fight, I mean because once the
play breaks down and now you're later in the down,
the fourth, fifth, sixth second in the down, that's a
nightmare for any dB. So the ideas to keep the
ball in front of you, You're not gonna stop everything,
especially with the accuracy that he has on the move.
It's unbelievable the way he plays. But if you let
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that ball over your head, you're just making an easy
for him. Um. The other side that they have a
unique offense. It's a it's a lot more of a
college type of offense right where the it's eleven and
eleven because they use jailing so much as a runner
design runs even out of the out of the shotgun,
and then they have two dynamic weapons and a j
and devantage smith on on each each side. Uh, based
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upon how you played, what's what are the challenges like
when so many have to commit to stop in the run? Man,
look the way they play, it's it's it's unreal because
Jalen Hurts is a threat threat Like his arm is
big time, his legs a big time, his mind is
big time. This is a guy that really has no
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weaknesses in his game. And then he's a pro with it,
like he looks like a polished vet like this is
his offense. So when you have that on top of
how athletic he is, I mean, it's a nightmare. It's
a nightmare because as a dB you're thinking Okay, we
can stop the run with seven, but maybe you can't.
So now you put eight up there. Now he's eating
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you alive. So it's he can beat you any way possible,
and that's what makes it hard. Um fix the Broncos.
For me, we had Sean Payton up here. Fix him. Leadership. Uh,
that's where it starts. I mean, I think what people
gotta remember is this is a whole new atmosphere, new owners.
You can't have more of a shift in leadership than
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new ownership because now you're coming in different objectives, different way.
You see a big corporate minds that the Penner and
Walton group have, Like they have different mindset about how
they want to run the team. Now. I do believe
that there's a difference between how you run football and
how you run businesses. Right, So so once they figured
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that out, things can happen. But it's all gonna start
with them, and they got to understand that they gotta
do it their way, but get the right pieces in place.
Hopefully Sean Payton's that answer. You know, we know he's
a winning uh coach. Hopefully he's the answer. Can can
rush be a leader? Considering how how this his struggles
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said it wasn't just his struggles on the field that
struggles to connect off the field. Can you flip that
in one year. No, it's who he is. I mean,
the only way you flip that is winning games. And
if I know Russell, he's working right, he's grinding, he's
doing whatever it takes to be a better teammate, better quarterback.
That's all he could do. You can't worry about all
the outside noise, how people perceive you. He's not gonna
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please everybody. What he needs to do is focused on
how he becomes a better player and that's it. Um,
you joined the Truly Georgia as their chief diversity officer,
and I know you're a part owner of it going
back by two years ago. Um, what what does it
do for you to to be to be so much
a part of it? It means a lot now to
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be clear, Truly Corporation is a multi state operator, right,
They operate in about eleven states. So now they come
to Georgia and getting into the mark market like Georgia
is a little challenging because of politics and you know
the stigma around uh cannabis in itself. So that's what
I'm here for once, I saw the opportunity become part owner,
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become an executive or C suite, part of the c suite,
and then also being able to give back to my
community in a different kind of way. So now I
see opportunities that can come about for people like me
who would probably not get a chance to participate in
this business. It's a very new business in the state
of Georgia, and I'm on the ground floor and now
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I'm able to go and pull people in that usually
wouldn't get a chance to pay. How how do you
break through that taboo of cannabis? Well, education, it's just education, data, education, data,
So just more, the more research that we can get behind,
and the more education that we can give people who
have these negative thoughts about what it is. There's a
(28:19):
lot of people that need this. They've been praying for
this drug in my state from over eight years, and
it's finally time to get it to them. Right, and
it's not not fully legalized yet, No, it's it's they
they it's legal. It's been hell, it's been legal for
about six seven years. But what what happened is they
didn't award certain companies to get a license, so now
(28:41):
they've gone through that process, so now it's setting the regulations.
So we're kind of in a phase where regulations should
be out soon, should be operating within the next two months.
I've heard that three times now. But hopefully at some
point this year we'll start operating. That was a hell
of a recruiting class, you and stepson Bennett coming at
the same time. That was really that was that was
amazing stuff. Back back back back in the day the
(29:04):
stans of the UH South Georgia guy like myself, he
was like family, don't talk about I know that. I
know when you signed the same recruity class. Of course
you're like family. That is it? That isn't What is
it like though? For Georgia was always always the bride'smaid,
you know, so close, so many times, so many trips
(29:24):
to Atlanta that came up cold right, and now to
back to back years and then the complete dominance this
year in the championship game. Obviously an amazing survival in
the semifinals. But as a dog, as a guy who's
still very connected to university, what's it like to see
them take that next step, not once but twice in
connecutive It's amazing. It's amazing. I think, you know, I
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lobby for Kirby Smart to get that job before he
got it, right, I was, you know, we gotta get Kirby,
we gotta get a fresh mine. Right. So when he
comes into the building, you notice how things change because
he's he's the ending thing. He's demanding performance or a
great performance from the right things, recruiting, getting the right
kids in culture like you invest in that. The sky's
(30:10):
a limit and then the xs and ohs he's always got.
Maybe you look around our staff. We got three or
four former head coaches on our staff. It looks a
little bit how Bama used to be in the past
few years. Right, he took he took the blueprint, put
his own stamp on it, and did in his kids
school where he has incredible passion. But one thing he
never loses sight of was who's making this thing go
(30:34):
and that's the players. And he knows that and he
invests a lot in there. Well, you're a great player. Now,
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at lip Show. We're live at Radio Row. And you
know so many of his teammates have joined us and said,
he we should be here, we should be here last
what is it? A week and a half ago, two
weeks ago? This coming Sunday NFC Championship game in Philadelphia
and Brock Party starting quarterback Sampsons, Compot Nighters got hurt.
And it was the weird this thing because I don't
(32:01):
I want you to take me through what happened, but
I'm watching on TV. Then I hop in the car
to go somewhere, and then the whole time nobody seemed
to know what was going on with you. What happened? Yeah,
so um, how to play action? Pass? Came around, went
to throw to Brandon aiyuk Um as my arms coming
through the soanrid, I just you know, went for the ball,
had my arm um extend backwards as I'm throwing, and
(32:25):
uh my, my U c L tour and so you know,
in that moment, my whole arm goes numb. I felt
like I got a you know, a shot to my
arm um. And I go to the sideline. I'm like, hey,
can you guys give me a ball while they're reviewing
this play. Um, I don't know if I could throw.
And as I took a couple of throws, like the
ball was just dying right, and I was like, I
can't feel anything, and so um, you know, I told
Shanahan that and then obviously they got the ball from
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that play. Well wait, what do you say when you
tell him that? What he's saying He's like, well, what
do you mean, like, you know, can you throw a
screen or something like five yards away? And he said,
can you throw an out route? And I was like,
I can't. I can't. I know that for sure, and
I'll be on the sideline and see what I can
do from there. But um, as we went to the
sideline and tried, you know, taping my arm in certain
directions and ways, um, and I tried throwing it, just
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it went. It was gone, I think. And it's interesting
because that play we've seen so many times, like the
tuck rule is close to it, We've seen kind of
things close to it. It's amazing. Did you feel a pop?
I didn't feel a pop. I mean, it all happened
so fast. Um, you know, it went back and extended
and my arm hit his helmet and then just the
whole thing went numb, and so um I was. I was,
I don't know what just happened, but it's not good.
I knew it wasn't a stinger, and it felt like
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I know, the before we knew it was your U
c L. I don't know if you're you're not really
hold enough. But Colt McCoy in the National Championship game.
I don't I remember that They're playing Alabama and he
got like a like something with his elbow where he
just couldn't feel it. He couldn't but it wasn't It
wasn't like a serious tear. It was basically like his
funny bone just got hit so much that it was
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impacted on that. Um, You're going in halftime and was it?
What was? What was? What was going on in that
locker room? Yeah? There, you know, doing all these tests
and feeling it and all this stuff. And then they
try putting cream on it with more tape, and then
I get a ball and try to throw on again.
And I was like, man, like, this is the NFC Championship.
I want to do everything it takes. You know, If
I got a c joint or whatever, I'm playing through that,
(34:13):
if my arms numb a little bit, I'm thrown. Um,
but physically like I couldn't throw ten yards, you know.
And that's when I was like, you know, it's got
to be you know, I gotta make the best decision
for my team, and it's not trying to be a
superhero and go out there and not throw. Well, I
can't even throw and So that's when I said, you
gotta put Josh in and and have him be able
to actually throw go through reads and you know, handle
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our offense right way. He lasts like three plays. I know,
I know, what what is that? What is that feeling
like when you know you have an incredible team and
you've been through so much just to get to that
moment and it's not no one did anything wrong. It's
just kind of freak of nature. But you can't be
out there, you physically can't help do the thing that
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you are born on this earth to do and help
the football. Yeah, I mean it was just a helpless feeling,
you know, like man wise is happening. Um, you know,
we go through all this stuff all year and you
know everything's going well, everyone's healthy, you know, going into
this game and or one win away from going to
the big game, you know. Um, but in that moment, man,
I just had to keep thinking God for thanks for
helping me get here. Um, It's happening for a reason
(35:18):
of trusting in that, and UM, I guess we're all
gonna learn from it and and grow and be back
next year. Did you know was the u c L
before the m R I Yeah, yeah, just growing up,
you know, playing baseball, my dad played baseball. We've always
heard of the the Tommy John and and the ligament
injury down near the elbow, and uh that was literally
when they're pressing and feeling around, that's exactly the area.
(35:39):
And I was like, you gotta be kidding me, Man's
it's my u c L for sure. I didn't know
if he was strained or torn or what, but come
back and get the m rights also torn. Okay, so
what's the what's the realistic prognosis? Like, yeah, everybody going
like all six months will be back, right, But we
see baseball players and they basically miss a year, you know,
some a little bit shorter, some a little bit longer.
What's the reason wal prognosis? Yeah, I mean it's just
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depends on the kind of surgery that you get. You know,
if a lot of baseball guys get the graft, which
is a reconstruction a k Tommy John where you get
a ligament and you get to put it in, that's
usually around a year. And now there's a newer surgery
where they put an internal brace in, they don't do
the ligament, and they allowed to heal on its own
with the internal brace, and that's a six month recovery. Um.
(36:20):
And so the doctor said, man, you gotta go in
see what it looks like. Um, after all the m
r s and results that we've done so far, they
have a good idea, like, man, we've seen this a
million times. We're gonna do the repair with the internal
brace that kind of thing. So, um, that's where we're
at with it. But you still just don't know until
they go in. For this is the wildest year has
to be right, like missed and and look like your
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last year I was State, wasn't what you thought it
would be. Like everybody just thought, oh, senior year, he's
gonna kill It was a little bit rougher than probably
probably thought. You end up going Mr Relevant. I live
in Orange County, so I know the celebration for Mr.
Relevant with the golf and all the fun stuff you do. Okay,
but the usual expect taste start from there too. You
know they got you know, they brought Jimmy back. You know,
(37:02):
Trey gets hurt. You're sitting there and then you're starting
and then you guys go on to run and now
everything changes. And then if if if somebody hasn't been
around for a year. They went overseas, turned off their phone.
They came back like, hey, man, what'd you been doing?
How would you explain? How would you explain what's happened
to you? Man? Um, you know, just for myself and
my life. Man, I'm a faithful man. I trust in
the Lord with what he does in my life. And so, um,
(37:24):
if you were to tell me I'm gonna be a
starting quarterback at some point during this year, and I
would have believed, it would have been like you know,
I I got belief in what God's doing in my life,
and I believe in the abilities He's blessed me with
and and that that was gonna be true. And so uh,
you know, all my family and friends were all like
supportive throughout this whole process. But um, it's been a
wild ride and I'm just thankful I it all played up.
Have Kyle or John have they told you, um, like
(37:47):
it's your job if you when you come back. Um.
We had some conversations, but the biggest thing for them is, Man,
you gotta get healthy and see where we go from there.
You know, if I from delayed with you know, coming
back whatever, then obviously they have to do what's best
for the team and have someone like Tray or someone ready. Um,
but we haven't had any other serious conversations about it.
It's gonna come down to what happens and what it
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looks like post surgery really quickly. That defensive front is nasty.
How hard is it can be for Pat to to
to operate with all that pressure? Yeah, I mean it's
a great challenge. I think you can win a game
or lose a game depending on what happens on the line,
you know, both defensively and offensively. So, um, the Eagles
have done a great job. You guys have seen the
stats all year of you know what they do the
quarterback and and all the sacks that they have and stuff.
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So that'll probably one of the biggest challenges. But Pat's
with us. I got the job for you next year. Okay,
next year. You gotta until you're healthy. You gotta cover
the carry the big speaker when Trent and those guys
come walking out that that's that's gotta be. That's gotta
be the new gig. Of course, with the with the
left arm, not with the right on that's rehabby brock
Purty soon to be on a football field near you
after surgery. Brock, thanks so much for joining us one.
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sitting down now. He's the new head coach of the
Denver Broncos. And interesting he's joined us on behalf of Zebras.
But you have ja Zebras. How many Super Bowls did
the Zebras cost you in New Orleans? Listen, we're kind
of putting it in our rear view mirror. But look
real quickly, and you know this, um nine years with
(01:34):
the NFL, they just extended an agreement. Um, they're the
bar code the company that you when you scan products
at the store, you get the price. So every one
of us is familiar with those barcodes. They're black and
white stripes since the words Zebra. But the NFL began
working with them too. Two things really provide you know,
(01:54):
an in studio view, we get next gen stats now right,
twenty two miles an hour. There's player went Um, we
were able to measure a lot of different things that
we weren't able to, you know, exactly in the past.
And then for me, it's it's really evaluating the data,
looking at practice tape and and and and and matching
(02:16):
it with like the workload training camp. You know, we're
trying to eliminate soft tissue injuries. So you know, these
chips are in the shoulder pads, and they just give
us more information than we used to have. We're smarter
when we practice. The question about trying to limit soft
tissue injuries, like the less hitting and the less uh
(02:37):
kind of invasive training camp I think many people would
think would lead to less injuries hasn't worked out that one. No,
that's a myth really, so so how do you how
do how do you take this data and use it
when well, I think we're learning to train differently now,
and we're learning to train in a little bit of
a wavelength form. We build up, we peek, and when
(02:57):
when we gradually go down, we build up and we pee.
He can then you know, so you're you're moving in
a certain direction, but you're understanding that every practice is
not the exact same workload every day like it you know,
like well, no one knew any better twenty years ago. Um.
And then when you can quantify, when you can look
(03:17):
at data and say, hey, I know when training camp,
the average receiver travels six miles of practice two and
a half hour practice. But I have an outlier here,
I've got I used Brandon Cooks as an example because
it happened and I'm looking at Brandon, He's at eight,
and I'm like, why is he at eight when everyone
else is at six and a half. Well, he's doing
these other routes, and but he's having hamstring issues. And
(03:39):
so look, it's just a way to get exactness to
what you think. And so you know when you used
to say, hey, let's back off the reps today, why
did you actually do that? And and so this gives
me a little bit more info. Um, and then there's
so many other areas. You know, the chips are in
the football's now, it's gonna be any year now, we're
(04:00):
going to see a ball across the plane of a
goal line and we're gonna see that goal line light up. Finally, Yeah,
that's right. And let the official then just look at
the knee. Right now, he's got to look at the
knee and the ball. And half the time it's like
it's like baseball, where the home plate umpire has to
call ball and strike, and yet you also have to
see if the bat cross the plane right, if he?
(04:20):
If he? If you can't do both, No, you can't write.
And and here's the thing. When you watch an NBA
game and a guy shoots with no time left on
the shot clock. And the one thing I love is
the back of the backboard just lights up right at
the double zeros, and then we all just look at
the hand and the ball and if it's in the air,
it's good, and if it's in the hand, it's not.
(04:41):
And so picture the goal line lighten up, or the
end zone lighten up, or the upper the uprights really
make more sense, right, just just they light they light up,
and all we have to look for is the knee
and that's the same thing is looking for the ball
in the hand. Sean Payton, head coach defor Broncos Jonas
got lip show, Fox Sports Radio. When you step back
for a year, okay, I'm sure there are two things
(05:04):
that happened. Some of the things you believed become more pronounced,
and some of the things you believed you might start
to question. Let's start to something that you question that
maybe you've evolved on stepping away from from head coaching
for a year. What would that be? Yeah, man, More
and more, when you watch these games, and we watch
them all in the green room, it's a little bit
more challenging because every game is on and they have
(05:26):
us focused on maybe two of the games that you know,
Terry Bradshaw was looking at this one. How he's on
this one? Michael? Whatever, Um, you're because you want to
have discussion at halftime, and so what's the topic gonna be?
You're watching it? But I think this, um number one,
we spend way too much time discussing not analytics, but
(05:48):
the idea that analytics are only two point plays in
fourth down. That's absurd, right, And then Troy and I
had this discussion Aikman, who does a fantastic job with
Joe on ESPN. It's hard to get used to saying that, right,
but um, you know it's it's in the booth, and
and Troy would make the comment, hey, analytics suggests this
(06:09):
is the right decision. And I text him once and
I said, who's analytics? You know? In other words, because
we're trained to evaluate the evaluator when we're in scouting,
like the scout might say I see this player being this,
and then I've got it. Before I buy into that,
I've got to understand, Hey do I do I? How
do I feel about the evaluator? So who's analytics? Number one?
(06:29):
There's not this universal code of science that says this.
And then secondly, more importantly, we've used analytics for years
with player procurement. You know, height, weight, size, speed at
the position, one of the maximums minimums. We've used analytics
relative to you know, first and second down frequency alerts.
You know, you play CFL football, that's different. In the
(06:51):
CFL you you have to put on third down. And
so generally speaking, better offenses in our league, UH make
first downs before they get to third down, if that
makes sense. Um, So a lot a lot's made on
those topics. And and so I watch in game mistakes
or management mistakes made a lot by younger head coaches.
(07:14):
And I don't know if they if they're influenced by
either their own department or but if you tell me, uh,
it's right to go for it on fourth down. And
I have an example of that. We're playing the Rams
back when they were in St. Louis, and someone asked
me once, why didn't you go for it on fourth down?
And I said, well, were you watching the left tackle matchup?
(07:36):
And Robert Quinn had beating this rookie of ours sacked
the quarterback twice. Like it's not baseball, it's not batter
pitcher there's eleven different people out there, and there's variables
that take place. And how's this game going. I'm watching
people go for two in the first half, and if
it's a high scoring game, you just go back and
then kick the extra point. If it's a lower scoring
(07:58):
I don't look at the two point chart of the
third quarter. And if it's a low scoring game, I'm
going to consider it, you know, somewhere in that third quarter.
If it's a high scoring game, I'm gonna look at
it until the fourth quarter. What is something that you've
always believed? And maybe I don't know, maybe a question,
But then in watching it all play out, now your
your your belief is even more fervent. You see it.
(08:19):
This is this is the way. And stepping back for
a year proved it's well, let's not ever lose track
of Look, the best team I thought the two best
teams in football played last week in the NFC Championship game,
and obviously San Francisco dealt with the injuries. But defense
is always gonna matter and a run game is always
gonna matter. Um And so we hear all the time
(08:40):
about this move to the this style of and and
when we talk about quarterback play. Ultimately, Uh, Sunday Mahomes
is gonna have to make plays in the pocket and
Hurts is gonna have to make plays in the pocket. Uh,
there's a different dimension with both of them. They can move.
We've always valued the quarterback that can move. Bill Walsh
(09:01):
valued Steve Young. Steve Young would take off and run
for sixty eight yards, you know. And so nothing has
changed that way relative to where the game's going. Um,
now we're getting we're getting from the college game a
lot more shotgun offense. Um. And yet I still find
myself comfortable with that. But I find myself with with
(09:25):
a fair amount offense that I like under center. And
so their convictions you have, and there's some you know
that you have to have cover guys because the game
has changed relative to the rules. That's a you know,
so pass protectors, pass rushers, cover players, those those are
(09:45):
the hardest players to find in free agency, and because
of that, their price tags are higher than the other positions.
The other thing we saw last weekend is we saw
two quarterbacks, and obviously with San Francisco we saw to
three quarterbacks. Are two quarterbacks in the other stuff, but
but both of those teams were constructed with quarterbacks not
making a ton of money and allows them to spread
(10:07):
all that money and have incredible rosters. Yeah, your challenge
is different, and your challenge is a lot like the
challenge of the Chiefs and other teams. What is that
like to approach? Well, history, so let's let's talk about
that for a second. I don't think we've had a
Super Bowl winner on a mega deal quarterback contract. Um,
we saw New England do it, but Tom was taking
(10:29):
a discount and I said, you know he was making million.
So well, but ultimately there's and there's a pizza pie,
and and there's you know, there's sections to it, right
and and if if let's say there's seven of you
at the frat party or you know, and you order
just one big pizza and you know, the big guy
(10:49):
over here has to eat a half of it, not
not let left for mail, not a lot left for
everyone else. So there's a happy medium there. I think
it's a challenge. I think the teams that historically when
we won, Drew was on an early deal. Um you
just when when Seattle one Russell was on an early deal.
When uh Philly won, they had a couple of different
(11:11):
young quarterbacks and they obviously were one was hurt and
they were playing the other guy on a young deal.
Like keep going through these winners last year, um, who
won it last year? Not not a young deal, not
not young, not not a young but it wasn't a
mega deal. But still and and so but you look
at how they fallen apart, and one of the reasons
(11:33):
they falling apart was they were so top heavy with
their scholarship, with their Uh, all of us would choose
to win one and then fall apart. We we would
do that all over again. But I think that, um,
I think that it's a it's a delicate balance. And
and so when you go back to talking about Brady,
and we talked about all the things that this guy accomplished,
(11:55):
one of the one of the best things that he
ever did was recognized the importance of winning. And that
became just as important. Now it helps when your wife's
a supermodel making money too, right, But but that was
one of the things that you really looked at and
you saw someone who was unselfish relative, you know, and
it was you know, good teammate, and he recognized that
(12:19):
winning was going to be first and foremost to his legacy,
and I think that Uh yeah, I think I think
that's important. Well, we're all gonna miss having you at Fox,
but we're all gonna enjoy watching you a coach. I'm
kind of a charger guy, so there'll be two games
a year where I will speach here. Listen, I got it,
I got Those are the those are the only two
games that's on the job. Thank you so much, and
(12:41):
thanks to Zebra Technology for allowing us to have you.
Thank you, appreciate you always. Oh you're You're the best.
That's Sean Payton. It's like a yearly Uh. He always
spent some time with us before and you get a chance,
not even necessary pre interviewing him, but dan as, you
get to experience just talking football with a guy who
loves it and and really watched it. And there's no like,
there's no like platitudes. When he's like talking about real
(13:03):
football stuff, it's so so cool and refreshing on a
week where a lot of times guys are more like,
let me just get through every internew very forthcoming. That's
why he was a success on TV in his short stint.
But he's always been that way. I'm not familiar with that.
You're not familiar with that? How great was that answer
that he gave all week on the Russell Wilson having
his own coach. He just kept saying, I'm not familiar
with it, like, well, it's the fifth time you've been
(13:25):
asked about it today, I'm not familiar with that. That's
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You may have listened to the I Want Your Flex podcast. Uh.
(14:54):
You may listen to the podcast on this show. You
may listen to many of the other interviews that I've done.
I cannot move away from the Philadelphia Eagles, the slight
favorite that they are. I think they win straight up.
I think they cover the minimal points that they are
getting with one Jalen Hurts being the most valuable player
of Super Bowl fifty seven. All right, Um, John Ramos, Well,
(15:18):
I'm gonna have to go with um. I'm also on
the Philadelphia Eagles bandwagon. Jalen Hurts is rushing over fifty
yards is the prop bet. I think Jaylor Hurts is
gonna run like almost to a hundred yards. I say
take that over on Jalen Hurts at forty nine and
a half. If you listen to the show, you know
(15:39):
that Jason Stewart, he doesn't just give us one picks.
He gives us multiple picks. We call it the j
stew Team parlay. Chase stew what he got? Oh, it's
Chase two team parlay today. This is an NBA one.
You can get your bet sound like right now to um?
You know Utah is getting eight and a half on
the road in Toronto. They've had a rough week, I know,
but Utah is gonna uh, I like it and a
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half and then you're gonna parway them from my Jase
two team part way with Phoenix. Actually Indiana giving two
and a half to Phoenix tonight, Indiana giving two and
a half to Phoenix. And I had a message for
the Phoenix fans. H Walter Davis is not gonna be
walking dot doors. Kevin Ritz, I'm walking that door night
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either Pacers to Pacers to the Jazz. Jase T Team
parway to Pacers to the Jazz. Uh Okay, I love that.
I too, am gonna go with the association and uh
with teams that are there very much in flux um.
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The the l A Clippers take on the Milwaukee Bucks,
and the Bucks last night dismantled the l A Lakers.
The Clippers are coming off a loss home loss to
the new look Dallas Mavericks. I think that's motivation for
this is a pick them. Give me the Clippers and
give me the under. The under. That's my same game parlay.
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As for the Super Bowl, I think the Philadelphia Eagles
is the better team. I think they have I agree
with all all the sentiment you heard off air is
the same one you heard on air, only not just
not as polite in that Janala Hurts is just okay.
But the team is awesome and their scheme is awesome
for what he does. That said, I'm a Charger fan
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and I've seen this movie. I know how it ends.
It usually ends with Pat Mahomes winning the game. Between
uh Andy Reid's ability to play well off a bye
week which means extra weeker prepparness, or their screen game
because their offensive line up be under durest, or the
fact that they have Pat Mahomes that nobody else does.
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I admit the Eagles are better. Wouldn't surprise me to
see you get out early. But I just I've seen
too many of these things. My homes finds a way,
mahomes wins. Give me the chiefs down your money when
you're sitting the gown, and what are the deis do?
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Let's get to Dan Buyer for was there a dying
bird singing in that version? I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell.
John Robbot had I had to keep a load. The
lower voice got you. I got you to do two dougs.
Pick tonight. John is probable to play. Chris Middleton not
gonna go for Milwaukee, so UH could aid your clippers
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pick right there. Although we never know which Clippers, It's
fair enough. We don't know what Mavericks are gonna play
because Luca is not going to play tonight against Sacramento.
Reports earlier today so that he was going to go
return from that Hell contusion, but he is not going
to go for the Mavericks. A couple of other NBA
notes additions to the All Star Game because of injuries
Dear and Fox of the King's timber Wolves. Guard Anthony
(18:59):
Edwards and Raptors forward Pascal Siakam, now named to the NBA,
are named as NBA All Stars. Tiger Woods will make
a season debut on the PGA Tour next week at
Riviera at the Genesis Open. Hasn't played an official events
since the Open Championship last summer. Right now on the
course at the Waste Management opened second round played John
(19:21):
Rom Scotty Scheffler sharing the lead just down the road
at t PC Scottsdale. They are at eight under par
in the second round play a couple of other notables.
Jason Day is currently just one shot back. Rory McElroy
will start his day a little bit later on, but
he is at plus ten. We could talk about how
complicated other banks make it to redeem credit card rewards,
or we can talk about how we discover you can
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redeem your rewards for cash in any amount at any time.
I mean talk about amazing learn more at discover dot
com slash redeemed rewards terms apply. I think Rory's about
the te off now and Cliff Kingsbury back in the States,
Doug Gonna speak with the Houston Texans about their offensive
coordinator opening under new head coach Damiko Ryan, and I'm
gonna throw it back to you, but I do have
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a story about our next guest. Okay, there is a
reason why Champ Bailey, hold on, we gotta move. This
champion is just really uncomfortable with that. I did well.
I'm a charger guy. Last thing I want to see
as you are that. But whatever. My quick story is this.
When I was in college, I got to meet in Sync.
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Remember in Sync, you know, justin timber Lake. I got
to meet them because of Champ Bailey because I had
a number four Nike Georgia jersey that was read and
some guy want to contest, and they told in Sync's
management team find the guy in the red shirt. He's
going to come on stage and get to meet the band.
I was wearing a red shirt. The guy grabbed me
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and I've got pictures with the group rocking my Nike
number four Champ Bailey Georgia jersey. True story. I'm glad
I can help with it. He's a he's a Pro
football Hall of Famer. He's an absolute legend in both
the college game, and he's a dog defending two time
national champion Georgia Bulldogs. Of course, uh he's a uh
he was a skin and then a Bronco and grated
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at everything he did in the Lake Championley joined the
Something Dull Show. How are you? I am? Great man?
Great to be here. Um. I would imagine with the
announcement of the new induction class for the prof Blahball
Hall of Fame, coming back is I saw you catched
up with LaVar Arrington. A little bit of reunion for
for for everybody. You know, you always gonna see guys
you hadn't seen in a while. I mean, I've seen
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LaVar over the last two few months, so lucky for me.
You know, that's more of a rekindle. But at the
same time, man, it's guys like Nick Ferguson that I
played with and you know, Brian Dawkins, all my former
teammates that I get to run into, Brian Mitchell last night.
I mean, it's just it's always the real to think,
oh damn, you know, here go my boys again. You know,
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it's like being in the locker room all over again. Um,
I am gonna ask a bad memory, uh the Super
Bowl in New York, Okay, but that that was one
that just never had the fumbled first snap. Um. Did
I remember doing that Super Bowl and it was Radio row,
but it was much tighter confines because it's in downtown
New York and all anybody was talking about was Peyton
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in the offense. But obviously, uh, that Seattle defense was nasty.
When did you know that it was? It was? It
was going bad. Probably halftime, I would say halftime, and
maybe right after because if if you remember that game,
we came out a halftime and gave up a uh
kickoff return for a touchdown. I mean Percy Harmon took
(22:34):
it to the house. I mean, so it was it
was pretty The writing was on the raw wall early
with the you know, the snap. Things just kept happening.
But you know, as a player, you are you always
stay optimistic in the moment. But when you look back, man,
it got bad really fast. It did get bad really fast.
What what is that like? Though years later now in
your career and all the all the rightful rewards, you've
(22:55):
gotten to have that missing piece. I mean, it sucks,
but you know, I looked back and I don't have
any regrets. I mean, I'm proud of the way I played,
how I was accountable to my team, my teammates. You
know in the memories that I created, the money I
made to be able to take care of my family.
I mean, that's those are all good things. I mean
I could dwell on the bad things that happened and
(23:16):
things I didn't you know, I felt short of. But
you know I'm never looking back with a negative aspect
on how everything turned out. Um, I want to ask
you about about my homes. Um, what do you do
when if you were back there, considering the amount of
time Oftentimes you gotta remain in coverage and he's running
(23:38):
around back there, and you know you're in scramble mode.
If if you're back there, what do you do? Well,
For one, you gotta pay your boys up front to
to get to him, right, you gotta give them more
incentives to get to him because the pass rushes everything.
But we all know how special he is and how
he extends plays. But as a defender man, you just
(24:00):
have to you gotta fight, I mean because once the
play breaks down and now you're later in the down,
the fourth, fifth, sixth second in the down, that's a
nightmare for any dB. So the ideas to keep the
ball in front of you, You're not gonna stop everything,
especially with the accuracy that he has on the move.
It's unbelievable the way he plays. But if you let
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that ball over your head, you're just making an easy
for him. Um. The other side that they have a
unique offense. It's a it's a lot more of a
college type of offense right where the it's eleven and
eleven because they use jailing so much as a runner
design runs even out of the out of the shotgun,
and then they have two dynamic weapons and a j
and devantage smith on on each each side. Uh, based
(24:44):
upon how you played, what's what are the challenges like
when so many have to commit to stop in the run? Man,
look the way they play, it's it's it's unreal because
Jalen Hurts is a threat threat Like his arm is
big time, his legs a big time, his mind is
big time. This is a guy that really has no
(25:05):
weaknesses in his game. And then he's a pro with it,
like he looks like a polished vet like this is
his offense. So when you have that on top of
how athletic he is, I mean, it's a nightmare. It's
a nightmare because as a dB you're thinking Okay, we
can stop the run with seven, but maybe you can't.
So now you put eight up there. Now he's eating
(25:26):
you alive. So it's he can beat you any way possible,
and that's what makes it hard. Um fix the Broncos.
For me, we had Sean Payton up here. Fix him. Leadership. Uh,
that's where it starts. I mean, I think what people
gotta remember is this is a whole new atmosphere, new owners.
You can't have more of a shift in leadership than
(25:49):
new ownership because now you're coming in different objectives, different way.
You see a big corporate minds that the Penner and
Walton group have, Like they have different mindset about how
they want to run the team. Now. I do believe
that there's a difference between how you run football and
how you run businesses. Right, So so once they figured
(26:10):
that out, things can happen. But it's all gonna start
with them, and they got to understand that they gotta
do it their way, but get the right pieces in place.
Hopefully Sean Payton's that answer. You know, we know he's
a winning uh coach. Hopefully he's the answer. Can can
rush be a leader? Considering how how this his struggles
(26:32):
said it wasn't just his struggles on the field that
struggles to connect off the field. Can you flip that
in one year. No, it's who he is. I mean,
the only way you flip that is winning games. And
if I know Russell, he's working right, he's grinding, he's
doing whatever it takes to be a better teammate, better quarterback.
That's all he could do. You can't worry about all
the outside noise, how people perceive you. He's not gonna
(26:54):
please everybody. What he needs to do is focused on
how he becomes a better player and that's it. Um,
you joined the Truly Georgia as their chief diversity officer,
and I know you're a part owner of it going
back by two years ago. Um, what what does it
do for you to to be to be so much
a part of it? It means a lot now to
(27:15):
be clear, Truly Corporation is a multi state operator, right,
They operate in about eleven states. So now they come
to Georgia and getting into the mark market like Georgia
is a little challenging because of politics and you know
the stigma around uh cannabis in itself. So that's what
I'm here for once, I saw the opportunity become part owner,
(27:37):
become an executive or C suite, part of the c suite,
and then also being able to give back to my
community in a different kind of way. So now I
see opportunities that can come about for people like me
who would probably not get a chance to participate in
this business. It's a very new business in the state
of Georgia, and I'm on the ground floor and now
(27:58):
I'm able to go and pull people in that usually
wouldn't get a chance to pay. How how do you
break through that taboo of cannabis? Well, education, it's just education, data, education, data,
So just more, the more research that we can get behind,
and the more education that we can give people who
have these negative thoughts about what it is. There's a
(28:19):
lot of people that need this. They've been praying for
this drug in my state from over eight years, and
it's finally time to get it to them. Right, and
it's not not fully legalized yet, No, it's it's they
they it's legal. It's been hell, it's been legal for
about six seven years. But what what happened is they
didn't award certain companies to get a license, so now
(28:41):
they've gone through that process, so now it's setting the regulations.
So we're kind of in a phase where regulations should
be out soon, should be operating within the next two months.
I've heard that three times now. But hopefully at some
point this year we'll start operating. That was a hell
of a recruiting class, you and stepson Bennett coming at
the same time. That was really that was that was
amazing stuff. Back back back back in the day the
(29:04):
stans of the UH South Georgia guy like myself, he
was like family, don't talk about I know that. I
know when you signed the same recruity class. Of course
you're like family. That is it? That isn't What is
it like though? For Georgia was always always the bride'smaid,
you know, so close, so many times, so many trips
(29:24):
to Atlanta that came up cold right, and now to
back to back years and then the complete dominance this
year in the championship game. Obviously an amazing survival in
the semifinals. But as a dog, as a guy who's
still very connected to university, what's it like to see
them take that next step, not once but twice in
connecutive It's amazing. It's amazing. I think, you know, I
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lobby for Kirby Smart to get that job before he
got it, right, I was, you know, we gotta get Kirby,
we gotta get a fresh mine. Right. So when he
comes into the building, you notice how things change because
he's he's the ending thing. He's demanding performance or a
great performance from the right things, recruiting, getting the right
kids in culture like you invest in that. The sky's
(30:10):
a limit and then the xs and ohs he's always got.
Maybe you look around our staff. We got three or
four former head coaches on our staff. It looks a
little bit how Bama used to be in the past
few years. Right, he took he took the blueprint, put
his own stamp on it, and did in his kids
school where he has incredible passion. But one thing he
never loses sight of was who's making this thing go
(30:34):
and that's the players. And he knows that and he
invests a lot in there. Well, you're a great player. Now,
great spokes for true Leave dot com. You want more information,
that's true leave dot com the great Champion Champ. Thanks
so much always man. Be sure to catch the live
edition of the Doug gott Leap Show week Day said
three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
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and the I Heart Radio. Ah app Hey, what's up everybody?
It's me, three time Pro Bowl of Lavaran to Then
I couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called
Up on Game? What is Up on Game? You asked,
along with my fellow pro bowler t J. Hudshman's otta
and Super Bowl champion. That's right, Plexico Burds. You can
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only name a show with that type of talent on it.
Up on Game. We're going to be sharing our real
life experiences loaded with teachable moments. Listen to Up on
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(31:39):
at lip Show. We're live at Radio Row. And you
know so many of his teammates have joined us and said,
he we should be here, we should be here last
what is it? A week and a half ago, two
weeks ago? This coming Sunday NFC Championship game in Philadelphia
and Brock Party starting quarterback Sampsons, Compot Nighters got hurt.
And it was the weird this thing because I don't
(32:01):
I want you to take me through what happened, but
I'm watching on TV. Then I hop in the car
to go somewhere, and then the whole time nobody seemed
to know what was going on with you. What happened? Yeah,
so um, how to play action? Pass? Came around, went
to throw to Brandon aiyuk Um as my arms coming
through the soanrid, I just you know, went for the ball,
had my arm um extend backwards as I'm throwing, and
(32:25):
uh my, my U c L tour and so you know,
in that moment, my whole arm goes numb. I felt
like I got a you know, a shot to my
arm um. And I go to the sideline. I'm like, hey,
can you guys give me a ball while they're reviewing
this play. Um, I don't know if I could throw.
And as I took a couple of throws, like the
ball was just dying right, and I was like, I
can't feel anything, and so um, you know, I told
Shanahan that and then obviously they got the ball from
(32:48):
that play. Well wait, what do you say when you
tell him that? What he's saying He's like, well, what
do you mean, like, you know, can you throw a
screen or something like five yards away? And he said,
can you throw an out route? And I was like,
I can't. I can't. I know that for sure, and
I'll be on the sideline and see what I can
do from there. But um, as we went to the
sideline and tried, you know, taping my arm in certain
directions and ways, um, and I tried throwing it, just
(33:09):
it went. It was gone, I think. And it's interesting
because that play we've seen so many times, like the
tuck rule is close to it, We've seen kind of
things close to it. It's amazing. Did you feel a pop?
I didn't feel a pop. I mean, it all happened
so fast. Um, you know, it went back and extended
and my arm hit his helmet and then just the
whole thing went numb, and so um I was. I was,
I don't know what just happened, but it's not good.
I knew it wasn't a stinger, and it felt like
(33:31):
I know, the before we knew it was your U
c L. I don't know if you're you're not really
hold enough. But Colt McCoy in the National Championship game.
I don't I remember that They're playing Alabama and he
got like a like something with his elbow where he
just couldn't feel it. He couldn't but it wasn't It
wasn't like a serious tear. It was basically like his
funny bone just got hit so much that it was
(33:52):
impacted on that. Um, You're going in halftime and was it?
What was? What was? What was going on in that
locker room? Yeah? There, you know, doing all these tests
and feeling it and all this stuff. And then they
try putting cream on it with more tape, and then
I get a ball and try to throw on again.
And I was like, man, like, this is the NFC Championship.
I want to do everything it takes. You know, If
I got a c joint or whatever, I'm playing through that,
(34:13):
if my arms numb a little bit, I'm thrown. Um,
but physically like I couldn't throw ten yards, you know.
And that's when I was like, you know, it's got
to be you know, I gotta make the best decision
for my team, and it's not trying to be a
superhero and go out there and not throw. Well, I
can't even throw and So that's when I said, you
gotta put Josh in and and have him be able
to actually throw go through reads and you know, handle
(34:34):
our offense right way. He lasts like three plays. I know,
I know, what what is that? What is that feeling
like when you know you have an incredible team and
you've been through so much just to get to that
moment and it's not no one did anything wrong. It's
just kind of freak of nature. But you can't be
out there, you physically can't help do the thing that
(34:55):
you are born on this earth to do and help
the football. Yeah, I mean it was just a helpless feeling,
you know, like man wise is happening. Um, you know,
we go through all this stuff all year and you
know everything's going well, everyone's healthy, you know, going into
this game and or one win away from going to
the big game, you know. Um, but in that moment, man,
I just had to keep thinking God for thanks for
helping me get here. Um, It's happening for a reason
(35:18):
of trusting in that, and UM, I guess we're all
gonna learn from it and and grow and be back
next year. Did you know was the u c L
before the m R I Yeah, yeah, just growing up,
you know, playing baseball, my dad played baseball. We've always
heard of the the Tommy John and and the ligament
injury down near the elbow, and uh that was literally
when they're pressing and feeling around, that's exactly the area.
(35:39):
And I was like, you gotta be kidding me, Man's
it's my u c L for sure. I didn't know
if he was strained or torn or what, but come
back and get the m rights also torn. Okay, so
what's the what's the realistic prognosis? Like, yeah, everybody going
like all six months will be back, right, But we
see baseball players and they basically miss a year, you know,
some a little bit shorter, some a little bit longer.
What's the reason wal prognosis? Yeah, I mean it's just
(36:00):
depends on the kind of surgery that you get. You know,
if a lot of baseball guys get the graft, which
is a reconstruction a k Tommy John where you get
a ligament and you get to put it in, that's
usually around a year. And now there's a newer surgery
where they put an internal brace in, they don't do
the ligament, and they allowed to heal on its own
with the internal brace, and that's a six month recovery. Um.
(36:20):
And so the doctor said, man, you gotta go in
see what it looks like. Um, after all the m
r s and results that we've done so far, they
have a good idea, like, man, we've seen this a
million times. We're gonna do the repair with the internal
brace that kind of thing. So, um, that's where we're
at with it. But you still just don't know until
they go in. For this is the wildest year has
to be right, like missed and and look like your
(36:41):
last year I was State, wasn't what you thought it
would be. Like everybody just thought, oh, senior year, he's
gonna kill It was a little bit rougher than probably
probably thought. You end up going Mr Relevant. I live
in Orange County, so I know the celebration for Mr.
Relevant with the golf and all the fun stuff you do. Okay,
but the usual expect taste start from there too. You
know they got you know, they brought Jimmy back. You know,
(37:02):
Trey gets hurt. You're sitting there and then you're starting
and then you guys go on to run and now
everything changes. And then if if if somebody hasn't been
around for a year. They went overseas, turned off their phone.
They came back like, hey, man, what'd you been doing?
How would you explain? How would you explain what's happened
to you? Man? Um, you know, just for myself and
my life. Man, I'm a faithful man. I trust in
the Lord with what he does in my life. And so, um,
(37:24):
if you were to tell me I'm gonna be a
starting quarterback at some point during this year, and I
would have believed, it would have been like you know,
I I got belief in what God's doing in my life,
and I believe in the abilities He's blessed me with
and and that that was gonna be true. And so uh,
you know, all my family and friends were all like
supportive throughout this whole process. But um, it's been a
wild ride and I'm just thankful I it all played up.
Have Kyle or John have they told you, um, like
(37:47):
it's your job if you when you come back. Um.
We had some conversations, but the biggest thing for them is, Man,
you gotta get healthy and see where we go from there.
You know, if I from delayed with you know, coming
back whatever, then obviously they have to do what's best
for the team and have someone like Tray or someone ready. Um,
but we haven't had any other serious conversations about it.
It's gonna come down to what happens and what it
(38:07):
looks like post surgery really quickly. That defensive front is nasty.
How hard is it can be for Pat to to
to operate with all that pressure? Yeah, I mean it's
a great challenge. I think you can win a game
or lose a game depending on what happens on the line,
you know, both defensively and offensively. So, um, the Eagles
have done a great job. You guys have seen the
stats all year of you know what they do the
quarterback and and all the sacks that they have and stuff.
(38:29):
So that'll probably one of the biggest challenges. But Pat's
with us. I got the job for you next year. Okay,
next year. You gotta until you're healthy. You gotta cover
the carry the big speaker when Trent and those guys
come walking out that that's that's gotta be. That's gotta
be the new gig. Of course, with the with the
left arm, not with the right on that's rehabby brock
Purty soon to be on a football field near you
after surgery. Brock, thanks so much for joining us one.
(38:51):
An incredible end of super Weak for us. We really appreciate,
appreciate
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