June 28, 2023 • 35 mins
Doug talks about the report that there will be season-long suspensions for several players in the NFL. Doug reacts to comments made by former NFL receiver James Jones about his long-time teammate Aaron Rodgers Doug chooses among deserving candidates for who is most annoying today. Plus, Doug gives out his Pick Of The Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What a About Us Podcast, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know, it's interesting today's day in which there's a
bunch of suspensions handed down by the Nation Football League
for guys gambling on football inside football facilities. And I
do think we're in this kind of weird place. We're
in this weird place, but it's a reasonable place if
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you've been an athlete. Here's the weird place in sports
radio and sports television. I make no bones about it.
Our future is mostly going to be determined in terms
of financially by gambling companies, right, and you know, some
of them have a good amount of fantasy sports, you know,
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the ones we're tied to obviously have have daily fantasy.
But at the end of the day, it's just a
it's like softcore porn, right, it's still porn. It's still gambling.
And part of being an athlete is you have to sacrifice.
You have to sacrifice. There are things you can't do,
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and a big one you can't do is you can't
gamble on your sport. And frankly, I don't think you
should be able to gamble on any sport. But we're
in this weird time where how many of these guys
I guess thought they were going to get away with it.
Do you realize how well regulated gambling actually is. I
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think that's the big thing is that people don't understand.
It's like when a lot of these got people commit crimes.
I remember when Aaron Hernandez, the lady Aaron Hernandez, committed murder, right,
and you're like, dude, they had they have video and
photo evidence of him filling up his tank with gas.
They pinged his cell phone all along the way to
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pick up the victim, pinged his cell phone to find
out where he was when the victim was killed. Obviously
they found some evidence as well. And then there's video
of him at his house and carrying something or covering
something which probably is a gun, and then dancing around afterwards. Right,
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and my point there is my point. Now, it's just like,
do these guys even know there's cameras everywhere, cameras everywhere.
There was another case of a guy I think some
of you guys have followed this. There was a murder
in nu Canaan Connecticut and the ex husband apparently did it.
He's since committed suicide. I knew the family because they
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had lived in the same neighborhood as us when I
was at ESPN, and the husband was a real or
slash builder, right. And so with that one, that guy
actually understood cell phone technology where he dumped the cell
phone along the way and they were dumping out little
pieces of evidence on like thirty stops somewhere in Hartford.
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But even those, even those stops, like again, they had
cameras and they caught it. I bring it up because, like,
don't you guys realize that when you're betting on this stuff,
big Brother's gonna find out? And of course big brother
is the term that was coined in the book nineteen
eighty four, right, which is a dystopian look at what
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should be present day and how Big Brother is always watching.
I just I don't know. My takeaway with the gambling
stuff is, don't these guys know they're gonna get caught?
Don't they know they're gonna get caught? And maybe they
don't understand the ramifications of it, But all of the
stories of guys that have thrown games, So I was
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watching the Tim Donneghe documentary the other day. All the
story's are the same. Right, guy gets in little light gambling,
starts building up a debt, can't pay off the debt.
Hey can you help us out here? And then once
you're in, you're in. And to people who are like, well,
these guys they make so much money, they're never going
to be at that level, like, that's not true. There's
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no amount of money that you make that you can't
get into debt in terms of gambling, because the house
is going to win more times than not. Just have
fun along the way.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Speaker 3 (04:59):
Let's get to what the Fox and Now every day
the time that Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Podcast,
we played for a previous portion of a radio show,
TV show, Fox Sports One, Fox Sports Trading. We're not
We're not choosy here. We just picked from something Fox
and bring it back to you givers, give you our
own thoughts. Here's Dan Patrick and the dan Nets talk
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about whether or not Bronnie James would actually want to
play with his dad.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't know if Brownie wants his dad and like
that would be awkward that if he truly didn't want
his dad to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But you can't say that, Okay, can I be my
own man?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It's a special thing, you know, to be able to
play on the same team as your son in the NBA.
So I get the appeal of it. I don't know
that I would want that, though, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Because it's you know, your comparison is right there in
front of you. We can't do where oh, Bronnie his
rookie year and lebron his rookie year. If I truly
want him to develop, I want him to develop on
his own. I get that you would love to play
with your son on the same team. I understand that.
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Do I think that's gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't, But.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I would want my son to be his own self.
It be you do what you need to do, and
I'll see you down the road and we'll play against
each other.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah that sounds good, but the reality is that's not
what's happening. You know. We talked about this radio show.
We talked about a little bit earlier in the pod
is that there is no way on God's green earth
that Bronnie James is a top twenty prospect for next
year's NBA Draft based upon anything he's done to this
point and any sort of upside, Right, that's just kind
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of the reality to it. I mean, even if you
look at Bryce James is taller than Ronnie James, Bryce
James and bare feet when he measured out recently was
at six ' two and a half, So Bronnie is
probably in the six to one variety. Like he's just
not really. I mean, I guess everybody's a pro prospect,
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but he's not a premier pro prospect. So what Dan's
saying is great, like everyone wants their kid to be
their own guy, or at least that's what they say.
But the truth is that I think Lebron's just trying
to get him a shot and then he believes in
his son, like, hey, if you get him a shot,
you get him on the right court, then he's going
to be you know, you get him in the league,
then all of a sudden, his instincts, his talent, everything
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takes over. I'm with you, like again, outside looking in,
you like the guy to be able to do it
on his own. No one's ever done it outside of
the elite guys without a little bit of help. But
I think it's a little bit too much help that
he's trying to give his son to boost him along.
If Lebron's not involved, Bronni's not an NBA prospect, especially
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the one and done variety, not close. Former Star wide
receiver James Jones had this exchange about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
There's a very small group of men that have two
Super Bowls and more. There's a bunch of guys that
have won. He's in the I got one category. Right
when Tom Brady leaves New England, goes to Tampa a
very similar situation and wins the Super Bowl, and that's
the guy your career is going to be most compared to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Is there extra pressure to be that guy?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I don't think there's no extra pressure, because I mean,
one thing we do know is he's not getting seven right, right,
So you know, I think the main thing for Aaron
Rodgers is putting himself in that category. I've got two rings.
I have multiple MVPs in the Super Bowl, and I
have multiple p's in the National Football League. I think
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that's his main focus of getting back to another one
and winning another one. If Aaron Rodgers gets two givin
ball games, possibly even three, come.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
On, man, yeah, look, let's get to where the Jets
make the playoffs, the Jets make the super Bowl. The
Jets went before the Jets win the Super Bowl. I
do think that if he could, in that short of
order win a Super Bowl with the Jets, it's viewed
as more than just one super Bowl win. It's like
a one and a half too, right, because as much
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as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hadn't done much of anything
since they previously won a Super Bowl for Brady took over. Remember,
even with Brady, they were a wild card team had
to go on the road in a post COVID year
in order to win it. This would be a lot harder,
and I think the Jets have a lot more dysfunction,
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even if they've had more success more recently than the
Buccaneers did before they won the Super Bowl. Here's Colin
Cowhert talking about the Lakers and Austin Reeves.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
The Lakers are a lock to keep Austin Reeves and
it could create major camp issues. Mark Stein reports they'll
pay what ever it takes to keep the player they
found undrafted last two years but a nice player for
the Lakers. Are the Lakers getting delusional because they found
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him and because he plays well with Lebron? So did
Matthew dela Vedova. So let's play a game we often
play in the NFL with quarterbacks. So let's put up
Austin Reeves's numbers for you. Last two years with the Lakers.
He averages ten a game. Two point six assists. Is
not necessarily a dead eye shooter thirty six percent from three.
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The guy will put up a blind resume. The other
guy averages more and shoots better, not quite as many assists.
Would you create major camp issues for that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Grayson Allen? Yeah, I'm not creating major camp issues for Grace.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now, well again, Collins, you can't do this. I mean,
I know he's doing it, and I know Colin's really
good at it, but in real life, you can't do it.
You can't compare a player that you don't have and
can't get to a player that you do have and
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can keep. Does that make sense? You can't let me
write let me repeat this so you can write that down.
You can't compare a player you don't have and can't
get for a player you do have and can keep
and like, Look, so you don't want to resign Austin Reeves?
Is that what you're saying. I understand what Colin's getting at,
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what many people are getting out, which I agree with.
It's like, hey, don't over sign him, don't overpay him
just because you discovered him or you underpaid him based
upon his performance the past couple of years. My thing
would be, I don't I don't know where the ceiling is.
But as good as Austin Reeves was this year, you
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saw a clear ceiling in the playoffs. You know, again
they got swept by the Nuggets. They're not good enough
and they're not getting better. You know, Lebron's not getting
better now. They need Austin Reeves to get better. They
need But I don't, I don't understand the resigning D'Angel
Russell to me, is gonna all be about how much
they pay him. The same thing for Austin Reeves. I
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wouldn't go crazy. But again, you can't compare to guys
that aren't on your roster and won't be on your
roster to somebody that you have and that you can keep.
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let's find out who
or what is annoying Jason Stewart, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
You. You're familiar with Crumble Cookies?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I am.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
Yeah. I guess it's a national chain. I guess they're
Crumble Cookies here in southern California. I've never had one.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I only became aware of them because my daughter was driving.
They recently opened one close to my house. My daughter
was driving, oh thirty minutes a day with friends as
she went on a Crumble cookie kind of run. This
is a couple of years ago. She since, you know,
we like, hey, you know that's one expensive and two
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you know, you can't eat cookies every day, but they're
pretty amazing.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
John, are you familiar with Crumble Cookies the chain?
Speaker 10 (13:37):
Yes, that, Suzanne and the kids, especially Sarah, love Crumble Cookies.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
What's the what's the difference is it?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They're just like I mean, it's like a it's like
a cupcake shop. You know what is it, Susie Cakes?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Is a chain of cupcake shops? Are they just a
chain of They make these delicious, gigantic, probably slightly overpriced cookies, man,
I and then they have specials each week, special cookies
for the week.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
Okay, I love cookies. I'm gonna have to try it
out anyways. The reason why I ask is because Tobias
Harris offered this up about trade speculation that involves him.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
Has sixers fans they'll trade before grumble cookies. But at
the end of the day, you know, I have to realize, like,
you're not getting a six ' nine forward.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Back who can you know?
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Damn there Shue quarter from three, reguard other team's best
best player, shoe pose up dried play seventy plus games
a year.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
I love it. I love his pride, and I liked
him defending his own game. I don't know how accurate
he is, but the annoying thing to me is this.
He says the fans, Philly fans will trade him for
a crumble cookie. That's a that's a fun line, but
it does also tell me that he listens to what
the fans think. I mean that he reads what the
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fans are writing. Sure, that can't be a good thing,
especially if you're in that market. Responding to what fans
write or say that that tends to be a war
that you can't win. Tobias.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Okay, So the cookies this week from Crumble Cookies, Galaxy Brownie,
it looks like a chocolate cookie with like chocolate frosting
on top, and then it's got some some sort of
chimneys or some sort of sprinkles on top. Wedding cake,
which is looks like a sugar cookie with some sort
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of pink frosting on top, and then kind of those
pearl candies on top, Fruit Pizza, which again looks like
some sort of white cookie with more of the traditional
cream and then fruit on top. Peanut Butter Blossom, which
is a peanut butter cookie with a chocolate frosting made
it look like a flour, a blossom of a flour,
classic pink sugar, and then milk chocolate chip. So those
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are the which of the those would you trade for
Tobias Hairs?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Well, the chocolate Galaxy is what I was going to
order because you you mentioned you're picking up on the
way into the studio. Right, Galaxy Brownie. Oh, Galaxy Brownie.
I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, Galaxy Brownie.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
Yeah, every week they have I think it's every week
they have a different, special, special, different types of cookies.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. All right,
who else is annoying you?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Let's see, man, this maybe might be one of my
favorite ones in quite some time. So Sarah Walsh is
filling in on Good Morning Football this week. And Sarah
Walsh has been doing reporting on the NFL for years,
she's an NFL employee. But she went off on a
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golf tangent. I guess her husband or significant other has
played a lot of golf. And I have a point
to make at the end of this.
Speaker 12 (16:45):
But I just want to put this in perspective the
other side of that equation, the one in which you
come to us with utterly unrealistic promises that can never
be fulfilled, starting with this real, unplayable lie. You are
not going golf and it's just going to take three
and a half hours.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
You know how.
Speaker 12 (17:03):
I know that because not once in your history of
golfing has a round ever taken three and a half hours,
Not once, and it's not because the group in front
of you plays slow, and it's not because they had
a dude in jean shorts with the twenty handicap. First
of all, it is because your round of golf starts
an hour earlier than your tea time, so that you
can get on the range, so that you can find
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your swing. Because somewhere in the recess of your brain
you think that you have a shot to get on tour. Wow,
it's because after your four and a half hour round,
if you're lucky, it's not your fault, but you're really
Chad who got you on the course forces you to
go grab food with them at the club grill after
and I get it, you're starving. You know why you're starving.
You've been there all day. Also, don't complain about having
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to take a call from your wife when you're on
the course.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Okay, so sounds kind of personal. This is a very
impassion Yeah, this is a very impassioned take. And I like,
I like anyone who puts thought into what they want
to say and it comes out like that. It's you know,
that is a lot smack. Now, Here's the problem is
that whether she means to or not. Sarah is basically
showing the world why dudes take six or seven hours
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to play around in golf to get away from that
that she's proving, I guess the point that she's not
trying to make. Yeah, no, if we say three and
a half hours, that's misile eating. I typically try to
oversell the time so that you know the expectations are
managed a little bit. But Sarah, you kind of proved
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why dudes like to get out of the house for
six hours.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think I'm actually gonna side. I thought, first of all,
it's hilarious. Second of all, she's everything she says is
completely right. The third she's talking about like somebody like me, Right,
she just is I undersell time all the time, like
that's my thing. And I think her thing is like, look,
if you're going to be gone all day, just say
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I'm out, I'm gone all day. Right. Her husband's a
former baseball player, and I'm sure he thinks he could
be on tour. Right. There's a lot of personal stuff
to it, and I'm guessing Chad is his buddy that
did make him go eat something. And I relate to
the guy who's like, man, I just want to get
out of here. But I don't like the get there
an hour before thing, though. I struggle with that. There's
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nothing I can do an hour before that's really gonna
help me. You know. I'm actually playing today after the show,
about an hour and a half after the show, meeting
a buddy who's already playing. I'll catch him at the turn,
which will allow me to have eaten, have coffee, and
nine holes. Maybe I go and play another turn and
play eighteen. But yeah, the big reason that my golf
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game is never consistent. I don't play enough. And the
reason I don't play enough is because I've always been
one about my kids, and two I just it's too
much time for me. Actually, actually I actually like that rant.
I don't know if it's that annoying, all right, give
me one more.
Speaker 9 (19:59):
No, no, I I like her passion, but I think she's
proving why dudes get away from that.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And and by the way, I played a round of
golf with you, and I was I think you were
there an hour early. And I know exactly what happens
when Doug Gottlieb shows up an hour early before golf.
He gets into an argument with Stan Vorett about Race.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Really, I didn't get in an argument about Stan Vrrette
Cutt Race. It was a nice discussion, one that proved
me to be to be pretty accurate.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It was about the it was about the h HBCUs.
It's about the hgc US. And then of course Dion
Sanders like one week later, like left Jackson State for
Colorado because nobody really wants to be at an HBCU
if they could be at up power five school like I.
That was basically what I said.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Stan obviously remembers a tweet exchange or something from the past,
because you went up and just say hi, and then
all of a sudden it turns into and less until
you're in the shoes of a black man. It's well, that's.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Exactly what that was, exactly. That's a good memory. That's
exactly what he said. Oh, it's like a high stand.
We stand. I used to play basketball every day, like
two three days a week at the Bristol amc A.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
So oh, very entertaining. So the third one, this sounds disgusting.
I'm just I'm just a regular mustard guy on my
hot dogs, mustard and onions. What kind of mustard regular mustard.
Don't give me the dijon, or don't give me the mixture,
just give me regular yellow mustard and some onions if
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they're if they're there. But Pepsi's come up with a condiment.
They're calling it the cola chip cola chup, like a
crossping cola and ketchup. Never heard of it. They're they're
bringing it out this July fourth. It blends spices including cinnamon, thyme, oregano,
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and paprika, plus onions and ketchup, so you're gonna taste
a sweet, citrusty tastes. Doug, what do we think about
cola chip?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It sounds awful awful, But I mean, everybody's gonna try it, right,
which is kind of the idea, isn't it. I don't
know how much R and D went into it. I
don't know how much investment went into it, how much
marketing promotion went into it. But I'm guessing because it's
so far afield from anything traditional, and yet it's blending
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names of things that we do, like, I'm guessing lots
of people are going to try it.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
And guess what, Doug, somebody's gonna like it. Their campaign
says that Cola chip is best with pepsi. What are a
remarkable coincidence we have a pepsi drinker. A'm on the
three of us. John is the one person and I
haven't met many of these months that prefers pepsi to coke. John,
do you care to explain.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
That I don't really compare or prefer one of the
at all. I just whatever I feel like at that moment.
So times don't drink coke, sometimes don't drink pepsi. Oh damn,
I thought for whatever reason, I know?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Do you guys know, like I was a marketing major,
do you know why New Coke came to be?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Yeah, you've told this story. It's interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You no new Pepsi, a new New Coke? Why a
New Coke came to be?
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Oh no, I don't know that because you usually tell
the story about the pepsi challenge and how the sweetness
of pepsi wins out in a challenge, because right.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well that's but that's what happened in New Coke. Okay, So,
so John, you remember when New Coke the New Coke disaster?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Because the last the last marketing campaign I can remember
that was as bad was poorly received as the bud
Light Uh recent bud Light campaign was new Coke. Can
we agree on that? Can we think of anything in
between new Coke and the bud Light campaign that's that's
in that in that vicinity of bad marketing campaigns.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, for much different reasons, all right, because new Coke
just wasn't good and people hated it. There was no
political ties to it, right.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It had nothing to new political politics. I don't think
it was that it wasn't good. I don't think that's
that's what it was. I think it didn't taste like coke,
and and and you know, and they did away with
Coke Classic or what was called coke all at once,
whereas had they just simply had New Coke and Coke Classic,
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they probably would have dominated the market share. Anyway, what
happened was, and this is kind of going back in
the story, for years they would do the was the
Pepsi Challenge, and in a blind taste test, people preferred
the taste of pepsi over coke. Why is that because
pepsi has far more sugar than coke. It's a lot
sweeter than coke. What they didn't realize is not just
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the brand loyalty with Coke, people thinking all they liked
was Coke, but also that in an entire can, it's
different than in blind taste test, because yes, the sugar
overwhelms you and it tastes better for one sip, but
then if you drink an old can. Back in the
days when people drink a can of coke, it was waste.
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It was just too sweet. It was like sweetness overload.
It's like, you know, we talked about Crumble cookies earlier, right,
It's like, can you have a bite of Crumble cookies? Yes?
Can you have an entire Crumble cookie?
Speaker 13 (25:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Right, So you wouldn't remake your cookies to be like
Crumble cookies if you were making cookies, because it's too sweet,
it's too sweet to eat a whole one. It's really
designed to be split, split up among friends anyway. So
Coke's mistake was they took that data, they created their
own recipe which is eerily similar to Pepsi's recipe, and
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that that became New Coke, and it it fell flat,
and within I think six months, they came back out
with New Coke. They came back out with Coke Classic.
New Coke was gone. Within a year or two and
everybody around that marketing campaign got fired. I bring that
up because people do like Pepsi stuff Pepsi has And
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you know the other thing about Pepsi is it's owned
I believe Pepsi it's owned by young brands now, right
or is it still We.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Went over this recently. I always thought Taco Bell is
owned by Pepsi, but you found you were, Rica Bell.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Pizza Hut, and maybe Dunkin Donuts is all owned by
young brands. I don't know if Pepsi is as well,
because Pepsi and anyway like it was genius in that
Pepsi owned Taco Bell or vice versa, so you'd always
have Pepsi products in Taco Bell. But I'm guessing right,
in addition to some sort of tie to Pepsi, there's
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probably some sort of tie to hot Dogs and ketchup,
and that's why they've done this as well.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Exactly right. So you got Cola Chip, Sarah Walsh and
Tobias Harris.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I'd say Tobias Harris Tobias an I love the Crumble
reference and clearly trying to get a little sponsorship deal.
On the other hand, I think he made Crumble out
to be some little cheapy thing, although it is just
one cookie, and I understand what he's saying, but the
whining and complaining and trying to sell yourself as being
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this incredibly great player. Like no one's denying that, no
one's saying anything bad about you. They're just hey, we
got to get better. And you know, if we can't
keep James Harden, how do we get better players? Who's
the best movable asset? He's just taking business way too
(27:38):
personally and oh yeah, by the way, massively under selling
the taste value of Crumble cookies. So Tobias Harris.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, why are we doing this?
Speaker 14 (27:50):
I do.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
What a got, Jason? What's up? My Cousbiny Canada?
Speaker 9 (27:57):
One of my favorite guys, JJ Watt was on Chris
and Kyle Long's podcast. The subject was.
Speaker 13 (28:04):
Weed and you touched on this not us? Is you
want to try weed one day?
Speaker 14 (28:09):
Drugs?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Obviously, I've had plenty of friends and never teammates.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
No, no, teammates have never done it.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
You want to get a clean experience if you've never
done it before. You want to have the taste in
its pure form. When I would say you probably want
to go with a water pipe like a bong for
lack of a better term, because you can really taste
the different strains.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That seems like the most difficult way to start.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Don't listen to Kyle. First off.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
I don't want JJ Watt walking around like a tweaker
with all this paraphernality. JJ Pott, Yeah, they'll call you
JJ Pott. They called me Chris, they called me Chris Bong.
I say, the first thing you need to do is
grab an edible ten melograms. Okay, don't go heavy. It's
the purest best buzz there is. You know what you
said about having to relax, and you know, like you
(28:52):
know you wish you to like chill it out a
little bit. If you work this into your rotation, you
will fucking relax.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I'll be five hundred pounds if I smoked.
Speaker 15 (29:00):
Man, That's probably one of the main reasons I know
I would eat so much food.
Speaker 13 (29:03):
The first rule of fight club is this, don't get
high downstairs in the kitchen. If you have two floors
in your house. Yeah, you will, like after nine or pm,
if you're going to smoke, like go upstairs to the balcony,
like go where you're gonna feel too lazy to walk.
Speaker 14 (29:15):
I've been using the dixie cup as like, I pour
the pretzels into the dixie cup and then that's all
I have as opposed to just bringing the bag and
my wife's like, where the fuck did the pretzels good?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's a great discussion, by the way, isn't it. Yes,
do we buy that he's never smoked pot?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (29:36):
Yeah, I've never done it. I don't think John has either.
That is correct though. In high school, all my friends
will get into my dad's van and they would smoke
pot but I would not.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Wait, they'd smoke pot in your dad's van. Yes, in
the park. Dad smoke pott in his No, and he
didn't realize that it smelled like pot potts. Like the
one thing about pot is you definitely smell it.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
Well, here's the thing, though, my dad gave me the
car to go to school. Uh, and he really didn't
use it that much at all, so it was really
my car to go back and forth to school.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So you had Spaccoli's van.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Yes, remember when they opened it up and all the
smoke came out of it. Yeah, but you never know.
I did not. I was I hate to say this,
but I was kind of the outlook, the lookout, I'm sorry,
I was the lookout for the teachers and stuff to
make sure because they were in the back.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And then I gotta tell you, John, there is a
lot of risk in letting guys smoke in your car
and not smoking yourself.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
Risk on me, Yeah, risk in what inhaling? The small risk?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
No? No?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Like school? Yeah, caught smoking pot in your van? You
get kicked out of school back in the day. Yeah,
especially back then. Yet you didn't even get the joy
of smoking pot.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
No, not at all.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
I was more I didn't know they were doing it actually,
to be honest with you, until they did it.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't think we didn't do it all the time.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
It was like a one or two times where they
got in there and all of a sudden they were smoking,
and I was like, oh, well, you know what am
I going to say, like let's get out. You know,
you're seventeen years old, you know, just peer pressure type stuff.
You're like, yeah, I guess, and then you know, hopefully
it's over, and then it's And this was during a break,
you know, like when you were a senior in junior
in high school, you have those like periods when maybe
you're off or you have a break time between like
(31:18):
you know, classes or lunch time, and that's when that
would occur. So yeah, not proud of it, But I
did What do you do?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
You know you didn't do anything wrong?
Speaker 10 (31:27):
No, I didn't do anything wrong, but they did do that. Yes,
that's a.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Honest and there's nothing to be proud, not be proud of,
to be ashamed of in any way. I did not,
I have not. I never smoked in high school. But
would I would tell you that I've tried the ten
milligram edible that's the old microdosing, and I don't know
if you get a buzz off it, but you definitely
kind of chill out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I haven't done a water, a bong or anything. But
what they're saying is very like there's a lot of
If you want to avoid the munchies, there's like two
ways to do it. One is, like they said, you
put yourself in a position to where there just isn't
anything around, smoke upstairs and then go to sleep right.
(32:12):
The other other thing you do is don't eat right
and make yourself something healthy and have it ready and
that way after you smoke, you just you're you're hungry
and you eat something really healthy. There is ways around it.
But that's an incredible SoundBite. That's incredible. But I don't
think JJ Watt is gonna end up being some sort
(32:35):
of pothead if he tries it one time. What they
need to do is do a do a podcast where
he tries it for the first time. That's a podcast
worth having a right, that would be amazing. Why do
we play that for you? Because we can. All right,
we're on a little bit of a streak here, Let's
give you a pick of the night. Okay, sir, the
bet is to yoube.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
All right, pick of the day here, we'll stick with baseball.
That's been kind of working out for us. Obviously. I
gave you the Angels. That was easy because sho Hee
a Tani is incredible, incredible. There's a there's a game
night that kind of jumps out at me and I I,
you know, I don't know how you guys feel about it.
You know, the Rays got out to such a hot start,
(33:20):
such a hot start, and one of the guys that
was great was Zach elflin Eflyn, excuse me, uh, he's
nine and three on the year with a three point
three five ERA. That's not bad, right, and he's been outstanding. Now,
the the one thing about Efflyn is his road ERA
(33:41):
is five point eight right at home in the Dome, unstoppable,
two point one seventy r a eight no. Fourty eight
innings pitched, okay, twelve earned runs allowed. Opponents batting averages
are just uh uh zero point two oh nine on
the road, there in two sixty against him. So tonight
(34:03):
those saying those same Tampa Rays they take on the Ardors,
on the Diamondbacks, and the Diamondbacks they're not bad this year.
They're actually really good in a very competitive NLS. They're
in first place. They beat the Rays going back to
last night, and they're playing at home. Why do I
bring up playing at home? Wow? We told you that
Eflyn not great on the road. Right, per his numbers,
(34:26):
he's going against Zach Davies. So, Zach Davies. If you
look at his splits at home, his RA is gargantuan.
Zach Davies home era is nine point nine to zero.
He's oh in three oh in three. I mean he
is just awful, awful, but he's not that bad a pitcher,
(34:47):
and though he's had a really rough start to the season,
I think he evens it out tonight because they'll, you know,
he's he's been around this thing for a long time.
I like the Diamondbacks as a home dog. The Rays
are minus two sixty. That means you can get it
at plus I think two eighty minus one sixty, then
get it at plus one eighty or so. I like
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the Diamondbacks just going against the Rays and Efflyn on
the road. That's my pick of the day. All Right,
that's it for the end the Bonus Podcast. Have yourself
a great Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow on the
Doug Gottlieb Show at three eastern noon Pacific. Or continue
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All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What a About Us Podcast, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know, it's interesting today's day in which there's a
bunch of suspensions handed down by the Nation Football League
for guys gambling on football inside football facilities. And I
do think we're in this kind of weird place. We're
in this weird place, but it's a reasonable place if
(00:53):
you've been an athlete. Here's the weird place in sports
radio and sports television. I make no bones about it.
Our future is mostly going to be determined in terms
of financially by gambling companies, right, and you know, some
of them have a good amount of fantasy sports, you know,
(01:17):
the ones we're tied to obviously have have daily fantasy.
But at the end of the day, it's just a
it's like softcore porn, right, it's still porn. It's still gambling.
And part of being an athlete is you have to sacrifice.
You have to sacrifice. There are things you can't do,
(01:39):
and a big one you can't do is you can't
gamble on your sport. And frankly, I don't think you
should be able to gamble on any sport. But we're
in this weird time where how many of these guys
I guess thought they were going to get away with it.
Do you realize how well regulated gambling actually is. I
(02:01):
think that's the big thing is that people don't understand.
It's like when a lot of these got people commit crimes.
I remember when Aaron Hernandez, the lady Aaron Hernandez, committed murder, right,
and you're like, dude, they had they have video and
photo evidence of him filling up his tank with gas.
They pinged his cell phone all along the way to
(02:22):
pick up the victim, pinged his cell phone to find
out where he was when the victim was killed. Obviously
they found some evidence as well. And then there's video
of him at his house and carrying something or covering
something which probably is a gun, and then dancing around afterwards. Right,
(02:43):
and my point there is my point. Now, it's just like,
do these guys even know there's cameras everywhere, cameras everywhere.
There was another case of a guy I think some
of you guys have followed this. There was a murder
in nu Canaan Connecticut and the ex husband apparently did it.
He's since committed suicide. I knew the family because they
(03:07):
had lived in the same neighborhood as us when I
was at ESPN, and the husband was a real or
slash builder, right. And so with that one, that guy
actually understood cell phone technology where he dumped the cell
phone along the way and they were dumping out little
pieces of evidence on like thirty stops somewhere in Hartford.
(03:29):
But even those, even those stops, like again, they had
cameras and they caught it. I bring it up because, like,
don't you guys realize that when you're betting on this stuff,
big Brother's gonna find out? And of course big brother
is the term that was coined in the book nineteen
eighty four, right, which is a dystopian look at what
(03:53):
should be present day and how Big Brother is always watching.
I just I don't know. My takeaway with the gambling
stuff is, don't these guys know they're gonna get caught?
Don't they know they're gonna get caught? And maybe they
don't understand the ramifications of it, But all of the
stories of guys that have thrown games, So I was
(04:14):
watching the Tim Donneghe documentary the other day. All the
story's are the same. Right, guy gets in little light gambling,
starts building up a debt, can't pay off the debt.
Hey can you help us out here? And then once
you're in, you're in. And to people who are like, well,
these guys they make so much money, they're never going
to be at that level, like, that's not true. There's
(04:37):
no amount of money that you make that you can't
get into debt in terms of gambling, because the house
is going to win more times than not. Just have
fun along the way.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Let's get to what the Fox and Now every day
the time that Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Podcast,
we played for a previous portion of a radio show,
TV show, Fox Sports One, Fox Sports Trading. We're not
We're not choosy here. We just picked from something Fox
and bring it back to you givers, give you our
own thoughts. Here's Dan Patrick and the dan Nets talk
(05:19):
about whether or not Bronnie James would actually want to
play with his dad.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I don't know if Brownie wants his dad and like
that would be awkward that if he truly didn't want
his dad to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But you can't say that, Okay, can I be my
own man?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Dad?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It's a special thing, you know, to be able to
play on the same team as your son in the NBA.
So I get the appeal of it. I don't know
that I would want that, though, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Because it's you know, your comparison is right there in
front of you. We can't do where oh, Bronnie his
rookie year and lebron his rookie year. If I truly
want him to develop, I want him to develop on
his own. I get that you would love to play
with your son on the same team. I understand that.
(06:07):
Do I think that's gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I don't, But.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I would want my son to be his own self.
It be you do what you need to do, and
I'll see you down the road and we'll play against
each other.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah that sounds good, but the reality is that's not
what's happening. You know. We talked about this radio show.
We talked about a little bit earlier in the pod
is that there is no way on God's green earth
that Bronnie James is a top twenty prospect for next
year's NBA Draft based upon anything he's done to this
point and any sort of upside, Right, that's just kind
(06:50):
of the reality to it. I mean, even if you
look at Bryce James is taller than Ronnie James, Bryce
James and bare feet when he measured out recently was
at six ' two and a half, So Bronnie is
probably in the six to one variety. Like he's just
not really. I mean, I guess everybody's a pro prospect,
(07:11):
but he's not a premier pro prospect. So what Dan's
saying is great, like everyone wants their kid to be
their own guy, or at least that's what they say.
But the truth is that I think Lebron's just trying
to get him a shot and then he believes in
his son, like, hey, if you get him a shot,
you get him on the right court, then he's going
to be you know, you get him in the league,
then all of a sudden, his instincts, his talent, everything
(07:34):
takes over. I'm with you, like again, outside looking in,
you like the guy to be able to do it
on his own. No one's ever done it outside of
the elite guys without a little bit of help. But
I think it's a little bit too much help that
he's trying to give his son to boost him along.
If Lebron's not involved, Bronni's not an NBA prospect, especially
(07:55):
the one and done variety, not close. Former Star wide
receiver James Jones had this exchange about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
There's a very small group of men that have two
Super Bowls and more. There's a bunch of guys that
have won. He's in the I got one category. Right
when Tom Brady leaves New England, goes to Tampa a
very similar situation and wins the Super Bowl, and that's
the guy your career is going to be most compared to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Is there extra pressure to be that guy?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I don't think there's no extra pressure, because I mean,
one thing we do know is he's not getting seven right, right,
So you know, I think the main thing for Aaron
Rodgers is putting himself in that category. I've got two rings.
I have multiple MVPs in the Super Bowl, and I
have multiple p's in the National Football League. I think
(08:47):
that's his main focus of getting back to another one
and winning another one. If Aaron Rodgers gets two givin
ball games, possibly even three, come.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
On, man, yeah, look, let's get to where the Jets
make the playoffs, the Jets make the super Bowl. The
Jets went before the Jets win the Super Bowl. I
do think that if he could, in that short of
order win a Super Bowl with the Jets, it's viewed
as more than just one super Bowl win. It's like
a one and a half too, right, because as much
(09:19):
as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hadn't done much of anything
since they previously won a Super Bowl for Brady took over. Remember,
even with Brady, they were a wild card team had
to go on the road in a post COVID year
in order to win it. This would be a lot harder,
and I think the Jets have a lot more dysfunction,
(09:41):
even if they've had more success more recently than the
Buccaneers did before they won the Super Bowl. Here's Colin
Cowhert talking about the Lakers and Austin Reeves.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
The Lakers are a lock to keep Austin Reeves and
it could create major camp issues. Mark Stein reports they'll
pay what ever it takes to keep the player they
found undrafted last two years but a nice player for
the Lakers. Are the Lakers getting delusional because they found
(10:13):
him and because he plays well with Lebron? So did
Matthew dela Vedova. So let's play a game we often
play in the NFL with quarterbacks. So let's put up
Austin Reeves's numbers for you. Last two years with the Lakers.
He averages ten a game. Two point six assists. Is
not necessarily a dead eye shooter thirty six percent from three.
(10:37):
The guy will put up a blind resume. The other
guy averages more and shoots better, not quite as many assists.
Would you create major camp issues for that guy?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Who is that guy?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Grayson Allen? Yeah, I'm not creating major camp issues for Grace.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Now, well again, Collins, you can't do this. I mean,
I know he's doing it, and I know Colin's really
good at it, but in real life, you can't do it.
You can't compare a player that you don't have and
can't get to a player that you do have and
(11:15):
can keep. Does that make sense? You can't let me
write let me repeat this so you can write that down.
You can't compare a player you don't have and can't
get for a player you do have and can keep
and like, Look, so you don't want to resign Austin Reeves?
Is that what you're saying. I understand what Colin's getting at,
(11:36):
what many people are getting out, which I agree with.
It's like, hey, don't over sign him, don't overpay him
just because you discovered him or you underpaid him based
upon his performance the past couple of years. My thing
would be, I don't I don't know where the ceiling is.
But as good as Austin Reeves was this year, you
(12:00):
saw a clear ceiling in the playoffs. You know, again
they got swept by the Nuggets. They're not good enough
and they're not getting better. You know, Lebron's not getting
better now. They need Austin Reeves to get better. They
need But I don't, I don't understand the resigning D'Angel
Russell to me, is gonna all be about how much
they pay him. The same thing for Austin Reeves. I
(12:23):
wouldn't go crazy. But again, you can't compare to guys
that aren't on your roster and won't be on your
roster to somebody that you have and that you can keep.
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let's find out who
or what is annoying Jason Stewart, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
You. You're familiar with Crumble Cookies?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I am.
Speaker 9 (13:03):
Yeah. I guess it's a national chain. I guess they're
Crumble Cookies here in southern California. I've never had one.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I only became aware of them because my daughter was driving.
They recently opened one close to my house. My daughter
was driving, oh thirty minutes a day with friends as
she went on a Crumble cookie kind of run. This
is a couple of years ago. She since, you know,
we like, hey, you know that's one expensive and two
(13:31):
you know, you can't eat cookies every day, but they're
pretty amazing.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
John, are you familiar with Crumble Cookies the chain?
Speaker 10 (13:37):
Yes, that, Suzanne and the kids, especially Sarah, love Crumble Cookies.
Speaker 9 (13:41):
What's the what's the difference is it?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
They're just like I mean, it's like a it's like
a cupcake shop. You know what is it, Susie Cakes?
Speaker 10 (13:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Is a chain of cupcake shops? Are they just a
chain of They make these delicious, gigantic, probably slightly overpriced cookies, man,
I and then they have specials each week, special cookies
for the week.
Speaker 9 (14:03):
Okay, I love cookies. I'm gonna have to try it
out anyways. The reason why I ask is because Tobias
Harris offered this up about trade speculation that involves him.
Speaker 11 (14:14):
Has sixers fans they'll trade before grumble cookies. But at
the end of the day, you know, I have to realize, like,
you're not getting a six ' nine forward.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Back who can you know?
Speaker 11 (14:24):
Damn there Shue quarter from three, reguard other team's best
best player, shoe pose up dried play seventy plus games
a year.
Speaker 9 (14:34):
I love it. I love his pride, and I liked
him defending his own game. I don't know how accurate
he is, but the annoying thing to me is this.
He says the fans, Philly fans will trade him for
a crumble cookie. That's a that's a fun line, but
it does also tell me that he listens to what
the fans think. I mean that he reads what the
(14:54):
fans are writing. Sure, that can't be a good thing,
especially if you're in that market. Responding to what fans
write or say that that tends to be a war
that you can't win. Tobias.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Okay, So the cookies this week from Crumble Cookies, Galaxy Brownie,
it looks like a chocolate cookie with like chocolate frosting
on top, and then it's got some some sort of
chimneys or some sort of sprinkles on top. Wedding cake,
which is looks like a sugar cookie with some sort
(15:28):
of pink frosting on top, and then kind of those
pearl candies on top, Fruit Pizza, which again looks like
some sort of white cookie with more of the traditional
cream and then fruit on top. Peanut Butter Blossom, which
is a peanut butter cookie with a chocolate frosting made
it look like a flour, a blossom of a flour,
classic pink sugar, and then milk chocolate chip. So those
(15:51):
are the which of the those would you trade for
Tobias Hairs?
Speaker 9 (15:55):
Well, the chocolate Galaxy is what I was going to
order because you you mentioned you're picking up on the
way into the studio. Right, Galaxy Brownie. Oh, Galaxy Brownie.
I'll take that.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, Galaxy Brownie.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
Yeah, every week they have I think it's every week
they have a different, special, special, different types of cookies.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. All right,
who else is annoying you?
Speaker 9 (16:17):
Let's see, man, this maybe might be one of my
favorite ones in quite some time. So Sarah Walsh is
filling in on Good Morning Football this week. And Sarah
Walsh has been doing reporting on the NFL for years,
she's an NFL employee. But she went off on a
(16:38):
golf tangent. I guess her husband or significant other has
played a lot of golf. And I have a point
to make at the end of this.
Speaker 12 (16:45):
But I just want to put this in perspective the
other side of that equation, the one in which you
come to us with utterly unrealistic promises that can never
be fulfilled, starting with this real, unplayable lie. You are
not going golf and it's just going to take three
and a half hours.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
You know how.
Speaker 12 (17:03):
I know that because not once in your history of
golfing has a round ever taken three and a half hours,
Not once, and it's not because the group in front
of you plays slow, and it's not because they had
a dude in jean shorts with the twenty handicap. First
of all, it is because your round of golf starts
an hour earlier than your tea time, so that you
can get on the range, so that you can find
(17:24):
your swing. Because somewhere in the recess of your brain
you think that you have a shot to get on tour. Wow,
it's because after your four and a half hour round,
if you're lucky, it's not your fault, but you're really
Chad who got you on the course forces you to
go grab food with them at the club grill after
and I get it, you're starving. You know why you're starving.
You've been there all day. Also, don't complain about having
(17:45):
to take a call from your wife when you're on
the course.
Speaker 9 (17:48):
Okay, so sounds kind of personal. This is a very
impassion Yeah, this is a very impassioned take. And I like,
I like anyone who puts thought into what they want
to say and it comes out like that. It's you know,
that is a lot smack. Now, Here's the problem is
that whether she means to or not. Sarah is basically
showing the world why dudes take six or seven hours
(18:11):
to play around in golf to get away from that
that she's proving, I guess the point that she's not
trying to make. Yeah, no, if we say three and
a half hours, that's misile eating. I typically try to
oversell the time so that you know the expectations are
managed a little bit. But Sarah, you kind of proved
(18:33):
why dudes like to get out of the house for
six hours.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think I'm actually gonna side. I thought, first of all,
it's hilarious. Second of all, she's everything she says is
completely right. The third she's talking about like somebody like me, Right,
she just is I undersell time all the time, like
that's my thing. And I think her thing is like, look,
if you're going to be gone all day, just say
(18:58):
I'm out, I'm gone all day. Right. Her husband's a
former baseball player, and I'm sure he thinks he could
be on tour. Right. There's a lot of personal stuff
to it, and I'm guessing Chad is his buddy that
did make him go eat something. And I relate to
the guy who's like, man, I just want to get
out of here. But I don't like the get there
an hour before thing, though. I struggle with that. There's
(19:20):
nothing I can do an hour before that's really gonna
help me. You know. I'm actually playing today after the show,
about an hour and a half after the show, meeting
a buddy who's already playing. I'll catch him at the turn,
which will allow me to have eaten, have coffee, and
nine holes. Maybe I go and play another turn and
play eighteen. But yeah, the big reason that my golf
(19:44):
game is never consistent. I don't play enough. And the
reason I don't play enough is because I've always been
one about my kids, and two I just it's too
much time for me. Actually, actually I actually like that rant.
I don't know if it's that annoying, all right, give
me one more.
Speaker 9 (19:59):
No, no, I I like her passion, but I think she's
proving why dudes get away from that.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And and by the way, I played a round of
golf with you, and I was I think you were
there an hour early. And I know exactly what happens
when Doug Gottlieb shows up an hour early before golf.
He gets into an argument with Stan Vorett about Race.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Really, I didn't get in an argument about Stan Vrrette
Cutt Race. It was a nice discussion, one that proved
me to be to be pretty accurate.
Speaker 11 (20:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
It was about the it was about the h HBCUs.
It's about the hgc US. And then of course Dion
Sanders like one week later, like left Jackson State for
Colorado because nobody really wants to be at an HBCU
if they could be at up power five school like I.
That was basically what I said.
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Stan obviously remembers a tweet exchange or something from the past,
because you went up and just say hi, and then
all of a sudden it turns into and less until
you're in the shoes of a black man. It's well, that's.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Exactly what that was, exactly. That's a good memory. That's
exactly what he said. Oh, it's like a high stand.
We stand. I used to play basketball every day, like
two three days a week at the Bristol amc A.
Speaker 9 (21:11):
So oh, very entertaining. So the third one, this sounds disgusting.
I'm just I'm just a regular mustard guy on my
hot dogs, mustard and onions. What kind of mustard regular mustard.
Don't give me the dijon, or don't give me the mixture,
just give me regular yellow mustard and some onions if
(21:32):
they're if they're there. But Pepsi's come up with a condiment.
They're calling it the cola chip cola chup, like a
crossping cola and ketchup. Never heard of it. They're they're
bringing it out this July fourth. It blends spices including cinnamon, thyme, oregano,
(21:52):
and paprika, plus onions and ketchup, so you're gonna taste
a sweet, citrusty tastes. Doug, what do we think about
cola chip?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
It sounds awful awful, But I mean, everybody's gonna try it, right,
which is kind of the idea, isn't it. I don't
know how much R and D went into it. I
don't know how much investment went into it, how much
marketing promotion went into it. But I'm guessing because it's
so far afield from anything traditional, and yet it's blending
(22:26):
names of things that we do, like, I'm guessing lots
of people are going to try it.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
And guess what, Doug, somebody's gonna like it. Their campaign
says that Cola chip is best with pepsi. What are a
remarkable coincidence we have a pepsi drinker. A'm on the
three of us. John is the one person and I
haven't met many of these months that prefers pepsi to coke. John,
do you care to explain.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
That I don't really compare or prefer one of the
at all. I just whatever I feel like at that moment.
So times don't drink coke, sometimes don't drink pepsi. Oh damn,
I thought for whatever reason, I know?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Do you guys know, like I was a marketing major,
do you know why New Coke came to be?
Speaker 9 (23:11):
Yeah, you've told this story. It's interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
You no new Pepsi, a new New Coke? Why a
New Coke came to be?
Speaker 9 (23:20):
Oh no, I don't know that because you usually tell
the story about the pepsi challenge and how the sweetness
of pepsi wins out in a challenge, because right.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well that's but that's what happened in New Coke. Okay, So,
so John, you remember when New Coke the New Coke disaster?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Because the last the last marketing campaign I can remember
that was as bad was poorly received as the bud
Light Uh recent bud Light campaign was new Coke. Can
we agree on that? Can we think of anything in
between new Coke and the bud Light campaign that's that's
in that in that vicinity of bad marketing campaigns.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, for much different reasons, all right, because new Coke
just wasn't good and people hated it. There was no
political ties to it, right.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It had nothing to new political politics. I don't think
it was that it wasn't good. I don't think that's
that's what it was. I think it didn't taste like coke,
and and and you know, and they did away with
Coke Classic or what was called coke all at once,
whereas had they just simply had New Coke and Coke Classic,
(24:26):
they probably would have dominated the market share. Anyway, what
happened was, and this is kind of going back in
the story, for years they would do the was the
Pepsi Challenge, and in a blind taste test, people preferred
the taste of pepsi over coke. Why is that because
pepsi has far more sugar than coke. It's a lot
sweeter than coke. What they didn't realize is not just
(24:50):
the brand loyalty with Coke, people thinking all they liked
was Coke, but also that in an entire can, it's
different than in blind taste test, because yes, the sugar
overwhelms you and it tastes better for one sip, but
then if you drink an old can. Back in the
days when people drink a can of coke, it was waste.
(25:11):
It was just too sweet. It was like sweetness overload.
It's like, you know, we talked about Crumble cookies earlier, right,
It's like, can you have a bite of Crumble cookies? Yes?
Can you have an entire Crumble cookie?
Speaker 13 (25:22):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Right, So you wouldn't remake your cookies to be like
Crumble cookies if you were making cookies, because it's too sweet,
it's too sweet to eat a whole one. It's really
designed to be split, split up among friends anyway. So
Coke's mistake was they took that data, they created their
own recipe which is eerily similar to Pepsi's recipe, and
(25:45):
that that became New Coke, and it it fell flat,
and within I think six months, they came back out
with New Coke. They came back out with Coke Classic.
New Coke was gone. Within a year or two and
everybody around that marketing campaign got fired. I bring that
up because people do like Pepsi stuff Pepsi has And
(26:08):
you know the other thing about Pepsi is it's owned
I believe Pepsi it's owned by young brands now, right
or is it still We.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Went over this recently. I always thought Taco Bell is
owned by Pepsi, but you found you were, Rica Bell.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Pizza Hut, and maybe Dunkin Donuts is all owned by
young brands. I don't know if Pepsi is as well,
because Pepsi and anyway like it was genius in that
Pepsi owned Taco Bell or vice versa, so you'd always
have Pepsi products in Taco Bell. But I'm guessing right,
in addition to some sort of tie to Pepsi, there's
(26:42):
probably some sort of tie to hot Dogs and ketchup,
and that's why they've done this as well.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Exactly right. So you got Cola Chip, Sarah Walsh and
Tobias Harris.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I'd say Tobias Harris Tobias an I love the Crumble
reference and clearly trying to get a little sponsorship deal.
On the other hand, I think he made Crumble out
to be some little cheapy thing, although it is just
one cookie, and I understand what he's saying, but the
whining and complaining and trying to sell yourself as being
(27:18):
this incredibly great player. Like no one's denying that, no
one's saying anything bad about you. They're just hey, we
got to get better. And you know, if we can't
keep James Harden, how do we get better players? Who's
the best movable asset? He's just taking business way too
(27:38):
personally and oh yeah, by the way, massively under selling
the taste value of Crumble cookies. So Tobias Harris.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, why are we doing this?
Speaker 14 (27:50):
I do.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Because we can.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
What a got, Jason? What's up? My Cousbiny Canada?
Speaker 9 (27:57):
One of my favorite guys, JJ Watt was on Chris
and Kyle Long's podcast. The subject was.
Speaker 13 (28:04):
Weed and you touched on this not us? Is you
want to try weed one day?
Speaker 14 (28:09):
Drugs?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Obviously, I've had plenty of friends and never teammates.
Speaker 15 (28:13):
No, no, teammates have never done it.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
You want to get a clean experience if you've never
done it before. You want to have the taste in
its pure form. When I would say you probably want
to go with a water pipe like a bong for
lack of a better term, because you can really taste
the different strains.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
That seems like the most difficult way to start.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Don't listen to Kyle. First off.
Speaker 13 (28:31):
I don't want JJ Watt walking around like a tweaker
with all this paraphernality. JJ Pott, Yeah, they'll call you
JJ Pott. They called me Chris, they called me Chris Bong.
I say, the first thing you need to do is
grab an edible ten melograms. Okay, don't go heavy. It's
the purest best buzz there is. You know what you
said about having to relax, and you know, like you
(28:52):
know you wish you to like chill it out a
little bit. If you work this into your rotation, you
will fucking relax.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I'll be five hundred pounds if I smoked.
Speaker 15 (29:00):
Man, That's probably one of the main reasons I know
I would eat so much food.
Speaker 13 (29:03):
The first rule of fight club is this, don't get
high downstairs in the kitchen. If you have two floors
in your house. Yeah, you will, like after nine or pm,
if you're going to smoke, like go upstairs to the balcony,
like go where you're gonna feel too lazy to walk.
Speaker 14 (29:15):
I've been using the dixie cup as like, I pour
the pretzels into the dixie cup and then that's all
I have as opposed to just bringing the bag and
my wife's like, where the fuck did the pretzels good?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
That's a great discussion, by the way, isn't it. Yes,
do we buy that he's never smoked pot?
Speaker 9 (29:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (29:36):
Yeah, I've never done it. I don't think John has either.
That is correct though. In high school, all my friends
will get into my dad's van and they would smoke
pot but I would not.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Wait, they'd smoke pot in your dad's van. Yes, in
the park. Dad smoke pott in his No, and he
didn't realize that it smelled like pot potts. Like the
one thing about pot is you definitely smell it.
Speaker 10 (29:59):
Well, here's the thing, though, my dad gave me the
car to go to school. Uh, and he really didn't
use it that much at all, so it was really
my car to go back and forth to school.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So you had Spaccoli's van.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Yes, remember when they opened it up and all the
smoke came out of it. Yeah, but you never know.
I did not. I was I hate to say this,
but I was kind of the outlook, the lookout, I'm sorry,
I was the lookout for the teachers and stuff to
make sure because they were in the back.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And then I gotta tell you, John, there is a
lot of risk in letting guys smoke in your car
and not smoking yourself.
Speaker 10 (30:34):
Risk on me, Yeah, risk in what inhaling? The small risk?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
No? No?
Speaker 9 (30:39):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Like school? Yeah, caught smoking pot in your van? You
get kicked out of school back in the day. Yeah,
especially back then. Yet you didn't even get the joy
of smoking pot.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
No, not at all.
Speaker 10 (30:51):
I was more I didn't know they were doing it actually,
to be honest with you, until they did it.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't think we didn't do it all the time.
Speaker 10 (30:57):
It was like a one or two times where they
got in there and all of a sudden they were smoking,
and I was like, oh, well, you know what am
I going to say, like let's get out. You know,
you're seventeen years old, you know, just peer pressure type stuff.
You're like, yeah, I guess, and then you know, hopefully
it's over, and then it's And this was during a break,
you know, like when you were a senior in junior
in high school, you have those like periods when maybe
you're off or you have a break time between like
(31:18):
you know, classes or lunch time, and that's when that
would occur. So yeah, not proud of it, But I
did What do you do?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
You know you didn't do anything wrong?
Speaker 10 (31:27):
No, I didn't do anything wrong, but they did do that. Yes,
that's a.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Honest and there's nothing to be proud, not be proud of,
to be ashamed of in any way. I did not,
I have not. I never smoked in high school. But
would I would tell you that I've tried the ten
milligram edible that's the old microdosing, and I don't know
if you get a buzz off it, but you definitely
kind of chill out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I haven't done a water, a bong or anything. But
what they're saying is very like there's a lot of
If you want to avoid the munchies, there's like two
ways to do it. One is, like they said, you
put yourself in a position to where there just isn't
anything around, smoke upstairs and then go to sleep right.
(32:12):
The other other thing you do is don't eat right
and make yourself something healthy and have it ready and
that way after you smoke, you just you're you're hungry
and you eat something really healthy. There is ways around it.
But that's an incredible SoundBite. That's incredible. But I don't
think JJ Watt is gonna end up being some sort
(32:35):
of pothead if he tries it one time. What they
need to do is do a do a podcast where
he tries it for the first time. That's a podcast
worth having a right, that would be amazing. Why do
we play that for you? Because we can. All right,
we're on a little bit of a streak here, Let's
give you a pick of the night. Okay, sir, the
bet is to yoube.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
It's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
All right, pick of the day here, we'll stick with baseball.
That's been kind of working out for us. Obviously. I
gave you the Angels. That was easy because sho Hee
a Tani is incredible, incredible. There's a there's a game
night that kind of jumps out at me and I I,
you know, I don't know how you guys feel about it.
You know, the Rays got out to such a hot start,
(33:20):
such a hot start, and one of the guys that
was great was Zach elflin Eflyn, excuse me, uh, he's
nine and three on the year with a three point
three five ERA. That's not bad, right, and he's been outstanding. Now,
the the one thing about Efflyn is his road ERA
(33:41):
is five point eight right at home in the Dome, unstoppable,
two point one seventy r a eight no. Fourty eight
innings pitched, okay, twelve earned runs allowed. Opponents batting averages
are just uh uh zero point two oh nine on
the road, there in two sixty against him. So tonight
(34:03):
those saying those same Tampa Rays they take on the Ardors,
on the Diamondbacks, and the Diamondbacks they're not bad this year.
They're actually really good in a very competitive NLS. They're
in first place. They beat the Rays going back to
last night, and they're playing at home. Why do I
bring up playing at home? Wow? We told you that
Eflyn not great on the road. Right, per his numbers,
(34:26):
he's going against Zach Davies. So, Zach Davies. If you
look at his splits at home, his RA is gargantuan.
Zach Davies home era is nine point nine to zero.
He's oh in three oh in three. I mean he
is just awful, awful, but he's not that bad a pitcher,
(34:47):
and though he's had a really rough start to the season,
I think he evens it out tonight because they'll, you know,
he's he's been around this thing for a long time.
I like the Diamondbacks as a home dog. The Rays
are minus two sixty. That means you can get it
at plus I think two eighty minus one sixty, then
get it at plus one eighty or so. I like
(35:09):
the Diamondbacks just going against the Rays and Efflyn on
the road. That's my pick of the day. All Right,
that's it for the end the Bonus Podcast. Have yourself
a great Wednesday. We'll talk to you tomorrow on the
Doug Gottlieb Show at three eastern noon Pacific. Or continue
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