July 24, 2023 • 38 mins
Doug tells a story about a remarkable night after a sporting victory one year ago today. FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan joins Doug to discuss the running back market, Nyheim Hines, and other major headlines around the NFL today. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through the Monday edition of "The Press".
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should be welcome in jay stews here, John Ramas is here,
Montcy Belanos here with the updates. One year ago today,
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I was in Tel Aviv, Israel, and as some people know,
I was coaching something called the Macabia Games, the US
men's open team. What's that mean?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Uh? The games are It's like the Jewish Olympics in Israel.
It's every four years, although that one there was a
five year span between the two, and the reason was
COVID obviously moved everything back a year. Now there's three
years in between these two to kind of get it
back on on schedule. So in two more summers there'll
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be another games, and they have they have a sixteen
U team, an AT and U team, and then they
have the open team. The open team can be any
age guy. I had one player who is twenty six
years old. Played a little for the Globetrotters, mostly college kids.
One was a player transitioning towards college. So the competition
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is kind of mixed in terms of levels. But I
would tell you that the France was all It was
the second best team the last two times I coached.
Both times they won the silver medal. And they have
professional level players. They're very well organized and actually they
have a rule and I don't know if they use it.
(02:09):
I think they do where they don't have to. They
have two players that don't have to be Jewish, whereas
all of our players have to be Jewish. That's the rules.
So it's a long it's like a month long process.
Right when we started, we had a couple of days
of practice at Keene University in New Jersey, which is
(02:33):
by the way, an incredible campus. It's a D three
program in Jersey. It's really cool. It's probably about fifteen
minutes from Newark, so we practiced there for a couple
of days. You fly to Israel, we did, you know,
three two days. Then we competed against the under twenty
national team, which the undertwenty national team, same team just
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they just won the silver medal or they just got
second in the European Championships at their level, so we
actually beat them last time around. And then the U
nineteen team, which now has some of the players advanced,
was actually in the tournament that we played in. And like,
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Israel's a fun country, lots of things to do, lots
of places to go out, weather's good, people are pretty
good looking, you know, like in Tel Aviv was a
party town. So my rule to the guys was, hey, listen,
there are some days where we have off and I'm
not telling you can't take off and you can't go out,
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but like the drinking and really going hard, like let's
just win and then party like rock stars. So can
I tell you what the rock star party was like
Chase two? Would you like to know?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I'd love to know. I need all the aspects of
a rock star party.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, so these are all and the guys, what will
send the to all of them and they can attest
to to it. So we we I don't think we commandeered.
I think we rented a bus, right, so the bus
was going to take us. We played the championship game
at Malga, which is the old arena for Hopwell Jerusalem.
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Their new arena is like a it's not an NBA
calib arena. It's like a really nice college arena with
boxes and everything. But you don't use that or they
have it's the only place they can play ice hockey
in the entire country, So you don't use that for basketball,
eve though you probably should. So we played it their
old old arena, and we win, and there's a celebration.
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And what was cool about it was my daughter who
was competing in the equestrian event out in Tiberius. You're
thinking of biblical references with Tiberius, right, which is in
the northern part of the country. She was her competition
was done, so heard her friends. They're at the game,
and she got to be on the court and she
had won a silver medal. And we win the gold
medal and it's on on national TV and you could
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have picked it up as well. So we win. We celebrate,
we take pictures and then everybody's like, now we go
in club it so we have the bus. The women's
team also came with us on the bus as they won,
and you know, now the bus is full. And the
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way I did it was I assigned. I had one
assistant coach, Sky Eton, who just he went. He was
at Princeton last year. Now he just took a job
at U. See Santa Barbara not a hard sale, right,
do you want to live in Santa Barbara?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So anyway, Sky was in charge of about four players,
and then our head trainer, Summer Rumstead, she's in charge
of about four five players, and everyone was in charge
of looking after my daughter, Like, hey, dude, she can
come with us to the club, sixteen years old at
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the time, but if she can dance on the dance
flo there's no dudes coming up and dance with her.
Like she danced with the girl and that's it. So
everybody's a sign there. We all had the breakdown. You
make sure you know where your player is, so it
limits how much we can drink because we got to
keep our eyes in the prize. The rule is everybody's
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got to get home safely. Right, you only have a
bad trip if something goes wrong there or if you
lose a game. Well, we didn't lose a game, so
we didn't want it then to go. So we go.
We roll into a club in Tel Aviv where he
previously called a head and we had to lay down
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what it amounted to I believe seven grand for like
it wasn't like unlimited bottle service, but it's like bottle
service spot of the club, security everything. So we come
in and there's this huge, massive people outside of it
trying to get into this club. And my daughter's sixteen.
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I think you were supposed to be eighteen. Not really
sure if there was really an age limit or they
were just checking IDs, but we did the old One
woman showed her ID, then everybody was talking, pasted it
back and my daughter had the ID right, she didn't
have a fake ID. We go in and immediately we
have to get shots and Don Perignon for all the guys,
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So shots Don Perignon, and then the dance floor we're
like on this little VIP area and you can look
down at the dance floor and generally good time was
had by all, and then we had like a I
think it was four o'clock or maybe five o'clock was
our heart out, like we're out of here. So I'm
my daughter got to hang with us for a little bit.
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And then she had like an older kind of chaperone.
It was like twenty two. Put them in the it's
not uber, it's called a get taxi there. Put them
in the get. She got back to her hotel, texted
me I'm good, and then we moved on. So at
four o'clock we decide all right, we got to leave
the club. We had to walk down the street to
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the bus. We're staying in Jerusalem, which is an hour
away or fifteen minutes away or whatever. Four am in Jerusalem,
now four am in Tel Aviv. What do you think's open?
To get some deep No, not Taco bell, closest thing
McDonald's going to get some McDonald's. We all get on
the bus with our McDonald's and we realize we're missing
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Leor Lee or is Leor Berman. He plays for Auburn
and he had a great tournament. Nobody can find leor
so Leor and we had been monitoring him. Had had
a little bit to drink. He's of age, and you
didn't have to be of age there, but he'd add
maybe a lot to drink there, and suddenly le where's Leor?
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And in Hebrew you say, f oh leor? Where is Leor?
So we get like ten dudes on those you know,
the rental scooters, the electric scooters you can get, and
they're all around this little area in Tel Aviv yelling
for Leor. Guys got they got McDonald's in one hand,
the scooter, going around looking for leor Or. Like forty
(09:09):
five minutes, we're looking for this dude. He's not. We're
on a group. What's that message? Nothing? No Leor. So
we so at some point I go, like one of
the assistant coach had to stay behind look for Leor.
Everybody else. I got to get everybody else back to
the hotel. So everybody else was probably like thirty five
in our traveling party. We get on the bus, we
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go back to the hotel and there's pictures. It's there's
kind of hangover type pictures where people have stamps on
their forehead and you know, some of the dudes made
out with a woman. There's one girl that made out
with Several of the guys are good generally, good time,
nothing like debauchery whenever. Good time was had by all.
But we don't know whether hell Leor is well. When
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we had landed. The first week we're there, we're in
one hotel. Then we moved to Erusalem to a different hotel.
So Leor because he'd probably had a little bit to
drink and he got in a taxi and went to
our old hotel and was like knocking on the door
and didn't know why no one would open his old
(10:15):
hotel door. But we were in a different hotel. Anyway,
we roll into Jerusalem and at about six am, as
the sun is coming up over the hills of Jerusalem,
we got the I'm alive, I'm fine text. All the
pressure off and that was our that was our rockstar
party night.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
One of the guys ended up going up to the
DJ booth and became the DJ. A lot of nineties
and early two thousands hip hopa was being played. There
was these glowing the bark bottles of Dom Perignon. I
got a picture of it. Pretty cool anyway, and it's
honestly probably the only night in my life I can
ever say that I was clubbing. But I was clubbing.
(10:57):
That's my night.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What do you think Jay, I think using a human
being is a great part of a party store, and wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It was a lot like they were like, where the
hell is Lee? I'm like, I'm thinking all the worst
things and then the worst part is the best part
of the worst part. So his parents were on the trip,
but his parents came and he was staying in Israel
because Auburn was coming out to play, so he was
actually going to stay with like his grandpa who lived there.
And they're like, and I'm just thinking to myself, like,
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how do I explain to the grandpa the next day
when he comes to the hotel to get his grandson,
like where's Lee? Or like, I don't know, I don't know.
So I had about I had about two hours of
pure panic, not knowing where this kid was.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Do you think the writers of The Hangover are thinking
of part four?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Now?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That could be a part four?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh? Yeah, this was definitely a This is a good one, Right,
this is a good one.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
One.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
What do you think the French team was doing the
second place team where they also party?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, they French. They handle it way different than we had.
They didn't wait until the tournament is over, right, like
I'm sure the night before, the day before, they prepped.
But those guys, they're all they were grown men. Like
we had college kids. They had professional at like six
like pro A level professional basketball players. So and they
did a good job. But yeah, they last time we
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won when they party like rock stars, I flew home
because know the story. I flew home and did Cowherd
right off the plane, like literally landed at like five am.
Did Cowherd at nine am at on the Fox lot,
the real thing. Whereas this one I stayed and party
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liked rock stars. But last time they saw that, all
the teams out. You know, they're grown men. They go out,
they have a good time. But that was one year ago.
I gotta travel some more, Chase, do you travel anyway
the summer?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Uh No, I'm the most I'm traveling. I think this
summer is I've booked a birthday trip for Christina is
in a month and we're gonna drive up to this
is great are drive up to see So that's not
necessarily a trip I'm traveling to. But I'm driving to
Smite and for her birthday, we're gonna climb. We're gonna
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peak Half Dome and at the top of half dome.
This is why we're gonna do it. I need to
survive it first of all, and then I need to
get up it. And then we're gonna take a picture,
and then we're gonna say hashtag this is fifty and
then everything will be worth it. So we're gonna have
a tour guide take us up there. I need to
get in shape. I need to drop like twenty pounds
(13:36):
the next four weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You gonna start taking a zempic.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah. See that's the thing. I need to lose weight,
but I can't get weak. So the first thing that
goes is your well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I just need to do something that all the Hollywood
people are taking. Yes, go ahead, Monty, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So you're getting weaker.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't think it's about you need to eat less.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You need to eat better, absolutely, yes, eating the right things.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What's your what's your biggest Like, what's what's what gets
you why? Yeah? Right? Who couldn't have pizza every single day?
And when you have little when you have little kids,
like they literally have pizza every single day. Yeah, it
doesn't work that way, Ramos. What's what's the one thing
(14:39):
you can't say no to uh sweet, which is probably bad.
What kind of sweets chocolate, chocolate, milk white dark? Uh,
regular milk chocolate? Yeah? Uh, Jay Stu, what's your what's
your weakness?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, chalcol what's mine too? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
My like my daughter Harper, she that's one who's with
me and Israel. So we switch cars a bunch last
week and like I get my car and I got
like cookies in there and sweets in there. It's like,
my god, what are you doing to me? Anyway? My weakness.
I have a lot of weaknesses and eat I eat
generally pretty well. You know, obviously if you're around pizza
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like you guys gotta if you go to blaze pizza, like,
what are you gonna do? Like, how am I gonna
how many to say no to that? There's no way.
But for the most part, I'm pretty good. And sugar,
especially in coffee, like I put I try limited sugar
and coffee. Those are my two. But if somebody has
sour belts, I can't stop. I can't stop. I have
zero I cannot stop. I can't can't stop. All right,
(15:40):
So Jay stew that's where we all need to team
up and limit what jays do is eating and make
sure that he's drinking lots of water, please do so
that they can do fifty at fifty at half Dome.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I want to survive, to come back on Monday to
tell you the story. The last, the most challenging part
of the half Dome peak is you have to climb
these these uh chains pretty much vertically the entire way
and it's all upper body strength, and people have let
go of those chains. There has been deaths on this thing.
So that's the one part that's after you've FIGGD eight miles.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You climb the change, but you don't have any anything,
no place, no, there's nothing like that. That's that I
don't believe that. Why would you? I don't really to
say I did it. Yeah, but he also he does
bungee jumping and stuff. It clearly wants to die geez,
but he wants to die in some spectacular fashion, like
he wants he wants the death story to be a
(16:35):
really good one, right, nobody.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Wants would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Nobody wants to like the flesh eating fresh eating bacteria.
That doesn't sound like that sounds really painful, but it's like, oh,
do you hear how he died. No, he was hiking
half Dome for his girlfriend on her fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
She doesn't she doesn't know about this, right, and he.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Got what she's done it.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, she's already told something else.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, like, oh, do you guys see that bungee jumping
deal where the guy wasn't like latched in and he
went and flew out. That was Jason Stewart. You mean
Jay stew from the you mean Jay stud from the
Rome Show. Yeah, that's how he went. Like, huh, that's
a memorable way to go, man. I think that's part
of what's behind this thing. Like he doesn't really want
to die, but if he dies, at least it's in
spectacular fashion. Feric Jay.
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the tyreg dot com studios. So Jay Stu sent us
these photos of what you have to hike holding on
to metal chains in order to go up half Dome. Okay,
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there's a couple of things here. I think I'm most
bothered by the idea that if somebody falls in front
of me, it becomes like dominoes and we all fall down. Yes,
what I can't tell is like these pictures look like
it's almost straight up, but it can't.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Definitely is it's close to the was that forty five degrees?
What's straight up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
For forty five degrees would be at a at a
slant ninety degrees.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's as close to ninety as you can get it
at some some parts. And there's no tethering. They can't tether.
You can't tether to the I would fly in a plane,
dug before I'd ever do something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You really are scared to fly a plane? No, I
would fly in a plane before I did this. No,
but you're really that afraid to fly?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I know, you know there's a differencene not a fan
of it and of it. Okay, So like for people
who follow the show, Ramos just told us it's been
over twenty years since he's been on a plane, right,
So don't say you're not a fan. Like, yeah, okay,
Like if I said, hey, John, I got you. You
(19:02):
and Susanne round trip tickets to New York go see
the Yankees play front Row leaving tonight. Could you get
yourself on that plane?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, so you're scared to fly? Wow, it's okay, Like
it's a it's a legit fear phobia. But you don't
don't don't understand going like, I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Right, I'm not a fan of the Giants. Would be
a better way to say that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, okay, Yeah. Adam Kaplan joins this Fox Sports Radio
NFL Insider, co host of Inside the Birds podcast. Uh,
football season is upon us right, like camps are starting
to get underway. Did any international travel for you?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Not it? Well, not international? But yes, my my tour
starts this will be let's see, my eighteenth started in
five out west and I am actually going to start
out east with the Giants and Eagles and Steelers, and
I'll be in La, man, I will be in La
with the Chargers, Rams and Cowboys early.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Next the La. The Cowboys, Rams and Cowboys, the Cowboys
Rams in charge are not in LA. That's that's the
whole thing for people, right, I know, like like oh, like, well,
I guess the Chargers are moving there eventually, but it's Coasta, Mesa,
Irvine and then Oxnard, which is all around l A
and plost to l l A. But still, let's let's
start with the So here we are back with this
(20:22):
running back conversation. They had a zoom call. What did
they gain out of all getting together on a zoom
call and deciding to change their future?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, what it is is, let's take the ladder that
they understand that they don't have leverage here. The only
thing they could create some leverage by not reporting. You know,
the guys who are under the tag with three running
backs are left under the tag. They can't be fine
because they haven't they haven't signed a contract, so they
could wait till week ten. They know that if they
(20:56):
decide to forfeit just under six hundred thousand dollars per
week by not showing up during the season, they're season's
over if they're not signed by week ten. So those
guys don't have any real leverage other than to say, okay,
I won't show up, but they lose a lot of money.
Now they can hurt the football team if that's what
they want to do. But they're exchanging ideas and Austin Eckler,
by the way, is under contract. He was really the
(21:17):
one who spearheaded this. He got his contracts slightly reworked.
The only thing the Charges did for him was they
gave him incentives, but he's criminally underpaid. He is a
special football player, super high character, but an unbelievable story
as an untracted free agent. But the Chargers knew they
didn't have to do anything. They made him available for trade.
They couldn't get it done. So he's still there and
(21:39):
guys are just exchanging ideas. But I thought Nick Chubb,
who doesn't only speak a lot, by the way, he
was on this call, spoke very well about it because
look it, and he's a power back who's had a
lot of carries. Let's say you have an unbelievable year,
but you get a lot of carries. Well, the team
is going to say, Okay, you did a great job,
but we're worried about your long term viability for how
long he will last. So, Doug, when you sum this up,
(22:01):
these guys know that there's really not much they can do.
And the other problem is the CBA is seven years more.
Remember they sign a ten year extension. The players did
will be the other The other.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Part to it, though, and you're right though, is like
the Hey, it's not that the Chargers made it so
you could trade him. Nobody wanted him at the contract
demands that he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, They didn't really redo his deal. Yeah, y, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And by the way, that that deal and again you're
talking about one of the top three or four backs
in the league, incredible versatility. You're talking about twelve to
fourteen million a season at a minimum, and he wasn't
going to get that. The guarantees have to struct be structured.
That you got to guarantee years of salary, and that's
been part of the if you look at the three backs,
that's been the problem, Doug is a club might be
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willing to meet one demand, but they're not going to
meet the other. That's the other problem here. And since
Christian McCaffrey, Doug one more thing before we move on,
got his historic deal three years ago sixteen and just
over sixteen million per season, and then and Derek Henry
got either twelve or twelve and a half million, the
deals have gone down. Miles Sanders got the best free
agent deal six point two five million. Doug. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, but I mean, i'd like that's the market.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's terrible. It's a terrible market. What I mean, I
feel for these guys. The one is Neckler. He's getting robbed.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't know, is.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He Well, I mean, first of all, by production, are
you kidding me? By production? He's one of the best
backs in the league. But the league doesn't look at
it that way. They look at it. Okay, you're running back.
You're not our quarterback, you're not our pass rusher, you're
not our top receiver. The running back by by cap dollars,
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and by the way teams look at it's fifth or
sixth in terms of how they want to pay, the
pay any position on the team. And unfortunately, production doesn't
seem to mean much anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, but here, here's so, here's the here's the reality
to it. Okay, so he's an undrafted free agent. He
plays his first couple of year years right and making nothing.
So they signed him to a contract extension, right, a
four year contract extension.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
For worth twenty four million, and he's I'll play that.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, But but that's not the way contracts work. They
don't go like, oh, hey, guess what you're better because
at the time in which he signed the four year extension,
he was making minimum and so they give him, you know,
a bunch of money upfront. Would they give him was
like a nine million basically upfront.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Six million signing bonus. I mean, they fully guarante his
second year salary. But yeah, it wasn't it was a
fair market deal. That was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That was the deal where if he wanted to try
and grind him, he probably could have. And then he's played.
He's played really, really well and at the end of
the contract. At the end of this content like, if
you don't like the contract, you shouldn't have signed the
contract you made.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Let's go back to your Richard point. This is the
best for the sistmal selling point you made at the
point that he signed it. Let's not forget he was
coming off his three year undirected free agent deal. So
they signed him to an extension, a four year extension
which ends at the end of this season. He put
up historic numbers touchdowns, he said, all sorts of I
(25:15):
don't want to say records because LT is the best obviously,
but he did some things that no backs have done
in years. But the Chargers felt like, look, this is
he's not a powerback who could handle twenty five carries
per game. Twenty carries per game. He's in twelve or
thirteen carries per game market. That doesn't equate to them
to twelve or thirteen or fourteen million a year. And
(25:36):
I get that, But unfortunately he's got to live with
this and he's making six two five with six point
twenty five million with some incentives. But he's just not
he's not on the open market. That's the other part.
Had he been in the open market, he certainly would
have got more than Miles Sanders would have got any
I think he usually got more in ten million.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Seasons that I agree with. I don't know if he
would have got more than Demain.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh yeah, because of his versatility and by the way,
Miles Sanders had a pretty big injury history.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, except what if he had he been able to
get closer to the number that he wanted, he would
have been traded. That's like, but the whole.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Said it earlier. No nobody wanted to redo his deal
and pay him. That's just unfortunate to Okay, so you're.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But you're telling me on one hand that if he
was on the open market, he'd get more than ten
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
If yes, if you didn't have to give up anything
for him. That's the other thing. No one's going to
give up a premium pick for running back. You got
to redo their deal twenty eight years old. Now, if
he's on the free agent market where you don't have
to give up anything, this is this is Scott.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, I mean, like, Lookdalvin, Dalvin Cookie. I know
he's had injury history as a fielding, okay, but he's
on the market. There's other plenty other dudes that are
on the market.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Coming off shoulder surgery. Doug. It's a pretty by the way,
the same age of twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I just think I don't think any of these guys
are going to be making Hey, Saquon Barkley, you know,
Saquon Barkley was offered twelve million dollars a year in
extension and chose to turn it down.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Like see the guarantees in the second year. That's the problem.
By the way, it was a little bit more than that,
but the guaran teasing the second year, we're a problem
the clubs. It's really interesting. I've not seen this twenty
over twenty years cover this business. I've not seen a
position so devalued. It's really it's sad, but it's it's true.
And that's kind of way we're going here.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, let's uh, let's get to the rest of the
National Football League. Okay, well, actually this, this is the
running back thing. Hymes gets hurt on a jet ski
where somebody else runs their jet ski into his leg.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wow, what do the Bills do to replace him?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well, first of all, he had been demoted. Remember they
made the trade because they had some issues at running
back for Hines. They made the trade with the Colts
last season. It didn't work. He barely played factor. He
was basically benched. So they said, hey, if you want
to come back, we're going to have to cut your pay.
He took the reduction. He was going to be a
deep backup for them. James Cook, Dalvin's brothers their starter.
(27:58):
They signed Damien Harris, a former pay It's back, to
be the second back. And what surprised me is they
actually signed Latavious Murray for me if dene In fact,
I talked to the Tavio's at the Super Bowl. He
said he definitely wanted to play whatever they do. They'll
throw add one back, but it's not it's not going
to be major. There's no reason to make a major
move because they love James Cook, Dalvin's brother, and Damien Harrison,
(28:19):
the Tavis Smurry. Now, the one thing I would tell
you is if this Dalvin Cook thing goes into August
to mid August, that's when all bets are off, where
anything could happen. A team could come out of nowhere
and do something.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I and I think that's what he's waiting on, right,
He's gonna he's now, he's got to wait, and he's
got to wait until there's that level of opportunity that
that he so desires. Okay, what you're going to giants camp?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
What are appropriate expectations for Daniel Jones now that he
has the new contract?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well? They Here's the thing. I felt this all on
Brian Dable, the head coach who really developed and did
a great job with Josh Allen and Mike Kafka is
probably going to be head coach. Kaf get interviewed for
the Cardinals head coaching job. They've done a phenomenal job
of developing him. They're not asking him to win it alone.
They did add Darren Waller, though I had reported last
week for my friends at prof Fooball Network that basically
(29:22):
the Raiders just got They came to the realization that
Weller couldn't stay healthy, but they got good value a
late third round pick for a guy who turned thirty
one this fall. But the Giants really feel he's an
X factor. He's a super athletic tight end. They signed
Paris Campbell, formerly of the Colts, who stayed relatively healthy
last season for the first time, so they feel like
(29:43):
they've surrounded with better talent. They're feeling better about their
offensive line. The coach very well at that position, so
they feel like Doug they don't have to ask him
to do a ton and they'll just keep grinding this thing.
But the thing is, though, now if Barkley actually doesn't
show up early, it's Matt It is really a third
down back in Eric Gray, who they like is more
of a power back from Oklahoma. But it's not good enough,
(30:06):
and they know they're going to have to do something.
If you know, they did bring in James Robinson, who's
now with his fourth team in a year and a half.
That's not good and he's had pretty significant injury problems.
They're going to have to take a look at this,
and they'll do that during training camp. But my senses
from talking to people close the situation, they've got a
plan and they want to take a look at Eric Ray.
They said, if Gary Brightwell, who's a sixth runner or
(30:28):
two years ago. But they do want to take a
look at James Robinson, who was an incredible story from
the Jaguars. Remember the Jaguars cut they cut Leonard Fourdad.
He came out of nowhere from Illinois State and he
was phenomenal that rookie season, but the torn achilles kind
of curtailed his career. So they're going to take a
look at that. But they're not their whole field to
(30:49):
move the forward here. Their thing is they don't ask
him to do a lot. They're not they're not a
high percentage PASST team. But if they don't have Barkley
for the beginning of the season, that is a major issue.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No question, a gigantic issue. Last thing, and I know
you won't get you. Are you going to San Francisco's
camp right now?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I don't have it in the budget, but this will
I've been going there since gosh, two thousand and five,
so I'm hoping to I'm hoping to get back there.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm asking because who do you think is they're starting
quarterback week one?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well, talking to them, I mean they felt all on
Brock Party will be ready. They made decision they were
going to stick with him no matter what happened. Trey
Lance and Sam Darnold will fill until party's ready. The
hope is will start practicing pretty mid to late August.
They're not there yet. He took the less invasive elbow surgery,
didn't have the full Tommy John and they'll just see
(31:40):
how he progresses. But they're pretty happy with what he's
doing here and the rehab work. But I'll tell you
what though, and I know they're not saying this, but
let's not forget what they gave up for Trey Lance.
What if he's lights out here? What if he's so great?
And then you're going to go to Brock Party. Who's
who's the last pick over all last year?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
People don't think he can play.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm just telling you, I'm just talking to them. I'm
talking to them. I'm just telling you. The leadership now
it's Kyle Shanhanny.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Is if they if they thought he was that good,
Sam uh Sam Darmod would be on the street.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well yeah, but you mean talking about Lance a Party.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
If they thought Lance was that good?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Look look they know, I know.
But what I'm saying is, and I've learned my lesson
with this thing because Party was fourth string to start
training camp last year and a whole lot of things
had to happen. You don't know. You never know un
till you get there and coaching. That's what they'll tell you.
If Lance is incredible, I'm gonna be interested to see
what they say about Party. I know privately talking to them,
they're like, so, gog over Party's leadership and how he
(32:42):
took over. That's all great, but the guy's never started
a full season the National FOOTB League. That's the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He's the one and only. Adam Kaplan said to hit
the road for his UH for his annual training camp tour,
and we will catch up with him on the road.
Also check out his Inside the Birds podcast. Kat thanks
so much for joining us.
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Thank you.
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(35:10):
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That's baseball.
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Red starter Luke Weaver. We dog has an ERA of
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(35:47):
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Press, Amont Stilanios, Joe.
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Right. It's the same thing with running backs. There's one
pile of money and we'll get it all figured out. Yeah,
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away Jamar Chase. I think he's And obviously they're not
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Montcy Belanos here with the updates. One year ago today,
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I was in Tel Aviv, Israel, and as some people know,
I was coaching something called the Macabia Games, the US
men's open team. What's that mean?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
So?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Uh? The games are It's like the Jewish Olympics in Israel.
It's every four years, although that one there was a
five year span between the two, and the reason was
COVID obviously moved everything back a year. Now there's three
years in between these two to kind of get it
back on on schedule. So in two more summers there'll
(01:23):
be another games, and they have they have a sixteen
U team, an AT and U team, and then they
have the open team. The open team can be any
age guy. I had one player who is twenty six
years old. Played a little for the Globetrotters, mostly college kids.
One was a player transitioning towards college. So the competition
(01:47):
is kind of mixed in terms of levels. But I
would tell you that the France was all It was
the second best team the last two times I coached.
Both times they won the silver medal. And they have
professional level players. They're very well organized and actually they
have a rule and I don't know if they use it.
(02:09):
I think they do where they don't have to. They
have two players that don't have to be Jewish, whereas
all of our players have to be Jewish. That's the rules.
So it's a long it's like a month long process.
Right when we started, we had a couple of days
of practice at Keene University in New Jersey, which is
(02:33):
by the way, an incredible campus. It's a D three
program in Jersey. It's really cool. It's probably about fifteen
minutes from Newark, so we practiced there for a couple
of days. You fly to Israel, we did, you know,
three two days. Then we competed against the under twenty
national team, which the undertwenty national team, same team just
(02:56):
they just won the silver medal or they just got
second in the European Championships at their level, so we
actually beat them last time around. And then the U
nineteen team, which now has some of the players advanced,
was actually in the tournament that we played in. And like,
(03:17):
Israel's a fun country, lots of things to do, lots
of places to go out, weather's good, people are pretty
good looking, you know, like in Tel Aviv was a
party town. So my rule to the guys was, hey, listen,
there are some days where we have off and I'm
not telling you can't take off and you can't go out,
(03:37):
but like the drinking and really going hard, like let's
just win and then party like rock stars. So can
I tell you what the rock star party was like
Chase two? Would you like to know?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I'd love to know. I need all the aspects of
a rock star party.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay, so these are all and the guys, what will
send the to all of them and they can attest
to to it. So we we I don't think we commandeered.
I think we rented a bus, right, so the bus
was going to take us. We played the championship game
at Malga, which is the old arena for Hopwell Jerusalem.
(04:19):
Their new arena is like a it's not an NBA
calib arena. It's like a really nice college arena with
boxes and everything. But you don't use that or they
have it's the only place they can play ice hockey
in the entire country, So you don't use that for basketball,
eve though you probably should. So we played it their
old old arena, and we win, and there's a celebration.
(04:39):
And what was cool about it was my daughter who
was competing in the equestrian event out in Tiberius. You're
thinking of biblical references with Tiberius, right, which is in
the northern part of the country. She was her competition
was done, so heard her friends. They're at the game,
and she got to be on the court and she
had won a silver medal. And we win the gold
medal and it's on on national TV and you could
(05:01):
have picked it up as well. So we win. We celebrate,
we take pictures and then everybody's like, now we go
in club it so we have the bus. The women's
team also came with us on the bus as they won,
and you know, now the bus is full. And the
(05:21):
way I did it was I assigned. I had one
assistant coach, Sky Eton, who just he went. He was
at Princeton last year. Now he just took a job
at U. See Santa Barbara not a hard sale, right,
do you want to live in Santa Barbara?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So anyway, Sky was in charge of about four players,
and then our head trainer, Summer Rumstead, she's in charge
of about four five players, and everyone was in charge
of looking after my daughter, Like, hey, dude, she can
come with us to the club, sixteen years old at
(05:53):
the time, but if she can dance on the dance
flo there's no dudes coming up and dance with her.
Like she danced with the girl and that's it. So
everybody's a sign there. We all had the breakdown. You
make sure you know where your player is, so it
limits how much we can drink because we got to
keep our eyes in the prize. The rule is everybody's
(06:13):
got to get home safely. Right, you only have a
bad trip if something goes wrong there or if you
lose a game. Well, we didn't lose a game, so
we didn't want it then to go. So we go.
We roll into a club in Tel Aviv where he
previously called a head and we had to lay down
(06:34):
what it amounted to I believe seven grand for like
it wasn't like unlimited bottle service, but it's like bottle
service spot of the club, security everything. So we come
in and there's this huge, massive people outside of it
trying to get into this club. And my daughter's sixteen.
(06:54):
I think you were supposed to be eighteen. Not really
sure if there was really an age limit or they
were just checking IDs, but we did the old One
woman showed her ID, then everybody was talking, pasted it
back and my daughter had the ID right, she didn't
have a fake ID. We go in and immediately we
have to get shots and Don Perignon for all the guys,
(07:18):
So shots Don Perignon, and then the dance floor we're
like on this little VIP area and you can look
down at the dance floor and generally good time was
had by all, and then we had like a I
think it was four o'clock or maybe five o'clock was
our heart out, like we're out of here. So I'm
my daughter got to hang with us for a little bit.
(07:40):
And then she had like an older kind of chaperone.
It was like twenty two. Put them in the it's
not uber, it's called a get taxi there. Put them
in the get. She got back to her hotel, texted
me I'm good, and then we moved on. So at
four o'clock we decide all right, we got to leave
the club. We had to walk down the street to
(08:02):
the bus. We're staying in Jerusalem, which is an hour
away or fifteen minutes away or whatever. Four am in Jerusalem,
now four am in Tel Aviv. What do you think's open?
To get some deep No, not Taco bell, closest thing
McDonald's going to get some McDonald's. We all get on
the bus with our McDonald's and we realize we're missing
(08:25):
Leor Lee or is Leor Berman. He plays for Auburn
and he had a great tournament. Nobody can find leor
so Leor and we had been monitoring him. Had had
a little bit to drink. He's of age, and you
didn't have to be of age there, but he'd add
maybe a lot to drink there, and suddenly le where's Leor?
(08:47):
And in Hebrew you say, f oh leor? Where is Leor?
So we get like ten dudes on those you know,
the rental scooters, the electric scooters you can get, and
they're all around this little area in Tel Aviv yelling
for Leor. Guys got they got McDonald's in one hand,
the scooter, going around looking for leor Or. Like forty
(09:09):
five minutes, we're looking for this dude. He's not. We're
on a group. What's that message? Nothing? No Leor. So
we so at some point I go, like one of
the assistant coach had to stay behind look for Leor.
Everybody else. I got to get everybody else back to
the hotel. So everybody else was probably like thirty five
in our traveling party. We get on the bus, we
(09:30):
go back to the hotel and there's pictures. It's there's
kind of hangover type pictures where people have stamps on
their forehead and you know, some of the dudes made
out with a woman. There's one girl that made out
with Several of the guys are good generally, good time,
nothing like debauchery whenever. Good time was had by all.
But we don't know whether hell Leor is well. When
(09:53):
we had landed. The first week we're there, we're in
one hotel. Then we moved to Erusalem to a different hotel.
So Leor because he'd probably had a little bit to
drink and he got in a taxi and went to
our old hotel and was like knocking on the door
and didn't know why no one would open his old
(10:15):
hotel door. But we were in a different hotel. Anyway,
we roll into Jerusalem and at about six am, as
the sun is coming up over the hills of Jerusalem,
we got the I'm alive, I'm fine text. All the
pressure off and that was our that was our rockstar
party night.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
One of the guys ended up going up to the
DJ booth and became the DJ. A lot of nineties
and early two thousands hip hopa was being played. There
was these glowing the bark bottles of Dom Perignon. I
got a picture of it. Pretty cool anyway, and it's
honestly probably the only night in my life I can
ever say that I was clubbing. But I was clubbing.
(10:57):
That's my night.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
What do you think Jay, I think using a human
being is a great part of a party store, and wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
It was a lot like they were like, where the
hell is Lee? I'm like, I'm thinking all the worst
things and then the worst part is the best part
of the worst part. So his parents were on the trip,
but his parents came and he was staying in Israel
because Auburn was coming out to play, so he was
actually going to stay with like his grandpa who lived there.
And they're like, and I'm just thinking to myself, like,
(11:25):
how do I explain to the grandpa the next day
when he comes to the hotel to get his grandson,
like where's Lee? Or like, I don't know, I don't know.
So I had about I had about two hours of
pure panic, not knowing where this kid was.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Do you think the writers of The Hangover are thinking
of part four?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Now?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That could be a part four?
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh? Yeah, this was definitely a This is a good one, Right,
this is a good one.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
One.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
What do you think the French team was doing the
second place team where they also party?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, they French. They handle it way different than we had.
They didn't wait until the tournament is over, right, like
I'm sure the night before, the day before, they prepped.
But those guys, they're all they were grown men. Like
we had college kids. They had professional at like six
like pro A level professional basketball players. So and they
did a good job. But yeah, they last time we
(12:15):
won when they party like rock stars, I flew home
because know the story. I flew home and did Cowherd
right off the plane, like literally landed at like five am.
Did Cowherd at nine am at on the Fox lot,
the real thing. Whereas this one I stayed and party
(12:35):
liked rock stars. But last time they saw that, all
the teams out. You know, they're grown men. They go out,
they have a good time. But that was one year ago.
I gotta travel some more, Chase, do you travel anyway
the summer?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Uh No, I'm the most I'm traveling. I think this
summer is I've booked a birthday trip for Christina is
in a month and we're gonna drive up to this
is great are drive up to see So that's not
necessarily a trip I'm traveling to. But I'm driving to
Smite and for her birthday, we're gonna climb. We're gonna
(13:15):
peak Half Dome and at the top of half dome.
This is why we're gonna do it. I need to
survive it first of all, and then I need to
get up it. And then we're gonna take a picture,
and then we're gonna say hashtag this is fifty and
then everything will be worth it. So we're gonna have
a tour guide take us up there. I need to
get in shape. I need to drop like twenty pounds
(13:36):
the next four weeks.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You gonna start taking a zempic.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah. See that's the thing. I need to lose weight,
but I can't get weak. So the first thing that
goes is your well, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I just need to do something that all the Hollywood
people are taking. Yes, go ahead, Monty, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So you're getting weaker.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't think it's about you need to eat less.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
You need to eat better, absolutely, yes, eating the right things.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
What's your what's your biggest Like, what's what's what gets
you why? Yeah? Right? Who couldn't have pizza every single day?
And when you have little when you have little kids,
like they literally have pizza every single day. Yeah, it
doesn't work that way, Ramos. What's what's the one thing
(14:39):
you can't say no to uh sweet, which is probably bad.
What kind of sweets chocolate, chocolate, milk white dark? Uh,
regular milk chocolate? Yeah? Uh, Jay Stu, what's your what's
your weakness?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yeah, chalcol what's mine too? You know?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
My like my daughter Harper, she that's one who's with
me and Israel. So we switch cars a bunch last
week and like I get my car and I got
like cookies in there and sweets in there. It's like,
my god, what are you doing to me? Anyway? My weakness.
I have a lot of weaknesses and eat I eat
generally pretty well. You know, obviously if you're around pizza
(15:16):
like you guys gotta if you go to blaze pizza, like,
what are you gonna do? Like, how am I gonna
how many to say no to that? There's no way.
But for the most part, I'm pretty good. And sugar,
especially in coffee, like I put I try limited sugar
and coffee. Those are my two. But if somebody has
sour belts, I can't stop. I can't stop. I have
zero I cannot stop. I can't can't stop. All right,
(15:40):
So Jay stew that's where we all need to team
up and limit what jays do is eating and make
sure that he's drinking lots of water, please do so
that they can do fifty at fifty at half Dome.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I want to survive, to come back on Monday to
tell you the story. The last, the most challenging part
of the half Dome peak is you have to climb
these these uh chains pretty much vertically the entire way
and it's all upper body strength, and people have let
go of those chains. There has been deaths on this thing.
So that's the one part that's after you've FIGGD eight miles.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
You climb the change, but you don't have any anything,
no place, no, there's nothing like that. That's that I
don't believe that. Why would you? I don't really to
say I did it. Yeah, but he also he does
bungee jumping and stuff. It clearly wants to die geez,
but he wants to die in some spectacular fashion, like
he wants he wants the death story to be a
(16:35):
really good one, right, nobody.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Wants would be pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Nobody wants to like the flesh eating fresh eating bacteria.
That doesn't sound like that sounds really painful, but it's like, oh,
do you hear how he died. No, he was hiking
half Dome for his girlfriend on her fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
She doesn't she doesn't know about this, right, and he.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Got what she's done it.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, she's already told something else.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, like, oh, do you guys see that bungee jumping
deal where the guy wasn't like latched in and he
went and flew out. That was Jason Stewart. You mean
Jay stew from the you mean Jay stud from the
Rome Show. Yeah, that's how he went. Like, huh, that's
a memorable way to go, man. I think that's part
of what's behind this thing. Like he doesn't really want
to die, but if he dies, at least it's in
spectacular fashion. Feric Jay.
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the tyreg dot com studios. So Jay Stu sent us
these photos of what you have to hike holding on
to metal chains in order to go up half Dome. Okay,
(17:52):
there's a couple of things here. I think I'm most
bothered by the idea that if somebody falls in front
of me, it becomes like dominoes and we all fall down. Yes,
what I can't tell is like these pictures look like
it's almost straight up, but it can't.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Definitely is it's close to the was that forty five degrees?
What's straight up.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
For forty five degrees would be at a at a
slant ninety degrees.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's as close to ninety as you can get it
at some some parts. And there's no tethering. They can't tether.
You can't tether to the I would fly in a plane,
dug before I'd ever do something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You really are scared to fly a plane? No, I
would fly in a plane before I did this. No,
but you're really that afraid to fly?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah, I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I know, you know there's a differencene not a fan
of it and of it. Okay, So like for people
who follow the show, Ramos just told us it's been
over twenty years since he's been on a plane, right,
So don't say you're not a fan. Like, yeah, okay,
Like if I said, hey, John, I got you. You
(19:02):
and Susanne round trip tickets to New York go see
the Yankees play front Row leaving tonight. Could you get
yourself on that plane?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Okay, so you're scared to fly? Wow, it's okay, Like
it's a it's a legit fear phobia. But you don't
don't don't understand going like, I'm not a fan of it.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Right, I'm not a fan of the Giants. Would be
a better way to say that.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah, okay, Yeah. Adam Kaplan joins this Fox Sports Radio
NFL Insider, co host of Inside the Birds podcast. Uh,
football season is upon us right, like camps are starting
to get underway. Did any international travel for you?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Not it? Well, not international? But yes, my my tour
starts this will be let's see, my eighteenth started in
five out west and I am actually going to start
out east with the Giants and Eagles and Steelers, and
I'll be in La, man, I will be in La
with the Chargers, Rams and Cowboys early.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Next the La. The Cowboys, Rams and Cowboys, the Cowboys
Rams in charge are not in LA. That's that's the
whole thing for people, right, I know, like like oh, like, well,
I guess the Chargers are moving there eventually, but it's Coasta, Mesa,
Irvine and then Oxnard, which is all around l A
and plost to l l A. But still, let's let's
start with the So here we are back with this
(20:22):
running back conversation. They had a zoom call. What did
they gain out of all getting together on a zoom
call and deciding to change their future?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, what it is is, let's take the ladder that
they understand that they don't have leverage here. The only
thing they could create some leverage by not reporting. You know,
the guys who are under the tag with three running
backs are left under the tag. They can't be fine
because they haven't they haven't signed a contract, so they
could wait till week ten. They know that if they
(20:56):
decide to forfeit just under six hundred thousand dollars per
week by not showing up during the season, they're season's
over if they're not signed by week ten. So those
guys don't have any real leverage other than to say, okay,
I won't show up, but they lose a lot of money.
Now they can hurt the football team if that's what
they want to do. But they're exchanging ideas and Austin Eckler,
by the way, is under contract. He was really the
(21:17):
one who spearheaded this. He got his contracts slightly reworked.
The only thing the Charges did for him was they
gave him incentives, but he's criminally underpaid. He is a
special football player, super high character, but an unbelievable story
as an untracted free agent. But the Chargers knew they
didn't have to do anything. They made him available for trade.
They couldn't get it done. So he's still there and
(21:39):
guys are just exchanging ideas. But I thought Nick Chubb,
who doesn't only speak a lot, by the way, he
was on this call, spoke very well about it because
look it, and he's a power back who's had a
lot of carries. Let's say you have an unbelievable year,
but you get a lot of carries. Well, the team
is going to say, Okay, you did a great job,
but we're worried about your long term viability for how
long he will last. So, Doug, when you sum this up,
(22:01):
these guys know that there's really not much they can do.
And the other problem is the CBA is seven years more.
Remember they sign a ten year extension. The players did
will be the other The other.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Part to it, though, and you're right though, is like
the Hey, it's not that the Chargers made it so
you could trade him. Nobody wanted him at the contract
demands that he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Right, They didn't really redo his deal. Yeah, y, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And by the way, that that deal and again you're
talking about one of the top three or four backs
in the league, incredible versatility. You're talking about twelve to
fourteen million a season at a minimum, and he wasn't
going to get that. The guarantees have to struct be structured.
That you got to guarantee years of salary, and that's
been part of the if you look at the three backs,
that's been the problem, Doug is a club might be
(22:46):
willing to meet one demand, but they're not going to
meet the other. That's the other problem here. And since
Christian McCaffrey, Doug one more thing before we move on,
got his historic deal three years ago sixteen and just
over sixteen million per season, and then and Derek Henry
got either twelve or twelve and a half million, the
deals have gone down. Miles Sanders got the best free
agent deal six point two five million. Doug. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, but I mean, i'd like that's the market.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It's terrible. It's a terrible market. What I mean, I
feel for these guys. The one is Neckler. He's getting robbed.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I don't know, is.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He Well, I mean, first of all, by production, are
you kidding me? By production? He's one of the best
backs in the league. But the league doesn't look at
it that way. They look at it. Okay, you're running back.
You're not our quarterback, you're not our pass rusher, you're
not our top receiver. The running back by by cap dollars,
(23:41):
and by the way teams look at it's fifth or
sixth in terms of how they want to pay, the
pay any position on the team. And unfortunately, production doesn't
seem to mean much anymore.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, but here, here's so, here's the here's the reality
to it. Okay, so he's an undrafted free agent. He
plays his first couple of year years right and making nothing.
So they signed him to a contract extension, right, a
four year contract extension.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
For worth twenty four million, and he's I'll play that.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, But but that's not the way contracts work. They
don't go like, oh, hey, guess what you're better because
at the time in which he signed the four year extension,
he was making minimum and so they give him, you know,
a bunch of money upfront. Would they give him was
like a nine million basically upfront.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Six million signing bonus. I mean, they fully guarante his
second year salary. But yeah, it wasn't it was a
fair market deal. That was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
That was the deal where if he wanted to try
and grind him, he probably could have. And then he's played.
He's played really, really well and at the end of
the contract. At the end of this content like, if
you don't like the contract, you shouldn't have signed the
contract you made.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Let's go back to your Richard point. This is the
best for the sistmal selling point you made at the
point that he signed it. Let's not forget he was
coming off his three year undirected free agent deal. So
they signed him to an extension, a four year extension
which ends at the end of this season. He put
up historic numbers touchdowns, he said, all sorts of I
(25:15):
don't want to say records because LT is the best obviously,
but he did some things that no backs have done
in years. But the Chargers felt like, look, this is
he's not a powerback who could handle twenty five carries
per game. Twenty carries per game. He's in twelve or
thirteen carries per game market. That doesn't equate to them
to twelve or thirteen or fourteen million a year. And
(25:36):
I get that, But unfortunately he's got to live with
this and he's making six two five with six point
twenty five million with some incentives. But he's just not
he's not on the open market. That's the other part.
Had he been in the open market, he certainly would
have got more than Miles Sanders would have got any
I think he usually got more in ten million.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Seasons that I agree with. I don't know if he
would have got more than Demain.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Oh yeah, because of his versatility and by the way,
Miles Sanders had a pretty big injury history.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, except what if he had he been able to
get closer to the number that he wanted, he would
have been traded. That's like, but the whole.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Said it earlier. No nobody wanted to redo his deal
and pay him. That's just unfortunate to Okay, so you're.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
But you're telling me on one hand that if he
was on the open market, he'd get more than ten
million dollars.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
If yes, if you didn't have to give up anything
for him. That's the other thing. No one's going to
give up a premium pick for running back. You got
to redo their deal twenty eight years old. Now, if
he's on the free agent market where you don't have
to give up anything, this is this is Scott.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
I mean, I mean, like, Lookdalvin, Dalvin Cookie. I know
he's had injury history as a fielding, okay, but he's
on the market. There's other plenty other dudes that are
on the market.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Coming off shoulder surgery. Doug. It's a pretty by the way,
the same age of twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I just think I don't think any of these guys
are going to be making Hey, Saquon Barkley, you know,
Saquon Barkley was offered twelve million dollars a year in
extension and chose to turn it down.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Like see the guarantees in the second year. That's the problem.
By the way, it was a little bit more than that,
but the guaran teasing the second year, we're a problem
the clubs. It's really interesting. I've not seen this twenty
over twenty years cover this business. I've not seen a
position so devalued. It's really it's sad, but it's it's true.
And that's kind of way we're going here.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, let's uh, let's get to the rest of the
National Football League. Okay, well, actually this, this is the
running back thing. Hymes gets hurt on a jet ski
where somebody else runs their jet ski into his leg.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Wow, what do the Bills do to replace him?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well, first of all, he had been demoted. Remember they
made the trade because they had some issues at running
back for Hines. They made the trade with the Colts
last season. It didn't work. He barely played factor. He
was basically benched. So they said, hey, if you want
to come back, we're going to have to cut your pay.
He took the reduction. He was going to be a
deep backup for them. James Cook, Dalvin's brothers their starter.
(27:58):
They signed Damien Harris, a former pay It's back, to
be the second back. And what surprised me is they
actually signed Latavious Murray for me if dene In fact,
I talked to the Tavio's at the Super Bowl. He
said he definitely wanted to play whatever they do. They'll
throw add one back, but it's not it's not going
to be major. There's no reason to make a major
move because they love James Cook, Dalvin's brother, and Damien Harrison,
(28:19):
the Tavis Smurry. Now, the one thing I would tell
you is if this Dalvin Cook thing goes into August
to mid August, that's when all bets are off, where
anything could happen. A team could come out of nowhere
and do something.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, I and I think that's what he's waiting on, right,
He's gonna he's now, he's got to wait, and he's
got to wait until there's that level of opportunity that
that he so desires. Okay, what you're going to giants camp?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
What are appropriate expectations for Daniel Jones now that he
has the new contract?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well? They Here's the thing. I felt this all on
Brian Dable, the head coach who really developed and did
a great job with Josh Allen and Mike Kafka is
probably going to be head coach. Kaf get interviewed for
the Cardinals head coaching job. They've done a phenomenal job
of developing him. They're not asking him to win it alone.
They did add Darren Waller, though I had reported last
week for my friends at prof Fooball Network that basically
(29:22):
the Raiders just got They came to the realization that
Weller couldn't stay healthy, but they got good value a
late third round pick for a guy who turned thirty
one this fall. But the Giants really feel he's an
X factor. He's a super athletic tight end. They signed
Paris Campbell, formerly of the Colts, who stayed relatively healthy
last season for the first time, so they feel like
(29:43):
they've surrounded with better talent. They're feeling better about their
offensive line. The coach very well at that position, so
they feel like Doug they don't have to ask him
to do a ton and they'll just keep grinding this thing.
But the thing is, though, now if Barkley actually doesn't
show up early, it's Matt It is really a third
down back in Eric Gray, who they like is more
of a power back from Oklahoma. But it's not good enough,
(30:06):
and they know they're going to have to do something.
If you know, they did bring in James Robinson, who's
now with his fourth team in a year and a half.
That's not good and he's had pretty significant injury problems.
They're going to have to take a look at this,
and they'll do that during training camp. But my senses
from talking to people close the situation, they've got a
plan and they want to take a look at Eric Ray.
They said, if Gary Brightwell, who's a sixth runner or
(30:28):
two years ago. But they do want to take a
look at James Robinson, who was an incredible story from
the Jaguars. Remember the Jaguars cut they cut Leonard Fourdad.
He came out of nowhere from Illinois State and he
was phenomenal that rookie season, but the torn achilles kind
of curtailed his career. So they're going to take a
look at that. But they're not their whole field to
(30:49):
move the forward here. Their thing is they don't ask
him to do a lot. They're not they're not a
high percentage PASST team. But if they don't have Barkley
for the beginning of the season, that is a major issue.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
No question, a gigantic issue. Last thing, and I know
you won't get you. Are you going to San Francisco's
camp right now?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I don't have it in the budget, but this will
I've been going there since gosh, two thousand and five,
so I'm hoping to I'm hoping to get back there.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I'm asking because who do you think is they're starting
quarterback week one?
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well, talking to them, I mean they felt all on
Brock Party will be ready. They made decision they were
going to stick with him no matter what happened. Trey
Lance and Sam Darnold will fill until party's ready. The
hope is will start practicing pretty mid to late August.
They're not there yet. He took the less invasive elbow surgery,
didn't have the full Tommy John and they'll just see
(31:40):
how he progresses. But they're pretty happy with what he's
doing here and the rehab work. But I'll tell you
what though, and I know they're not saying this, but
let's not forget what they gave up for Trey Lance.
What if he's lights out here? What if he's so great?
And then you're going to go to Brock Party. Who's
who's the last pick over all last year?
Speaker 1 (31:59):
People don't think he can play.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
I'm just telling you, I'm just talking to them. I'm
talking to them. I'm just telling you. The leadership now
it's Kyle Shanhanny.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Is if they if they thought he was that good,
Sam uh Sam Darmod would be on the street.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well yeah, but you mean talking about Lance a Party.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
If they thought Lance was that good?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Look look they know, I know.
But what I'm saying is, and I've learned my lesson
with this thing because Party was fourth string to start
training camp last year and a whole lot of things
had to happen. You don't know. You never know un
till you get there and coaching. That's what they'll tell you.
If Lance is incredible, I'm gonna be interested to see
what they say about Party. I know privately talking to them,
they're like, so, gog over Party's leadership and how he
(32:42):
took over. That's all great, but the guy's never started
a full season the National FOOTB League. That's the fact.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
He's the one and only. Adam Kaplan said to hit
the road for his UH for his annual training camp tour,
and we will catch up with him on the road.
Also check out his Inside the Birds podcast. Kat thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Thank you.
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It's time for that's baseball now.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
The Baltimore Orioles are alone in first place in the
Al East. After another series win this weekend, They're now
two games up on the Rays in the East. The
O's the e currently have the second lowest pay roll
in baseball sixty nine million dollars. The Mets pay at
least sixty nine million dollars to two of their players,
Lindor and Max Scherzer. How do you explain a team
(35:10):
with the second lowest payroll in baseball leading the best
division in baseball? When she got the Yankees, for example,
that's baseball.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
That's baseball.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Red starter Luke Weaver. We dog has an ERA of
eight point seventy nine is his last ten starts. That's
not good. Here's the thing. The Reds have a record
of nine to one in those ten games. That's the
highest ra in a ten game start span for a
pitcher whose team has won at least nine of those
games since ERA became official in nineteen thirteen. Had he
(35:47):
explained that nothing more baseball than that.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That's baseball.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And Austin Riley's streak of a home run ended yesterday.
You had a home run in five straight games. That
five game stretch sixteen RBI time for the most for
player in a five game span since nineteen twenty. Had
he explain that that's baseball.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
That's baseball.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
Press, Amont Stilanios, Joe.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Months all right, Well, Bengals president Mike Brown says that
they are aware of the upcoming contract negotiations for players
like quarterback Joe Burrow, wide receiver t Higgins, linebacker Logan Wilson,
and Pro Bowl wide receiver Jamar Chase.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
And it just is obvious that when all teams are
essentially paying the same thing, we're all paying up to
the camp is hard to fit everybody in. It's impossible
to fit everybody in at the rate they wish they
could be paid.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Right. It's the same thing with running backs. There's one
pile of money and we'll get it all figured out. Yeah,
and the big question is, you know, are there any
of those guys that they would trade, you know, like
what the Vikings did you know Sake with Stefan Digs
they trade him drafted Justin Jefferson. Don't think they're trading
away Jamar Chase. I think he's And obviously they're not
changing quarterbacks anything else.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Maybe yeah, maybe they actually asked him out about quarterback
Joe Burrow's contract and he stayed quiet. He's like, you know,
his people haven't said anything, so I'm going to respect
that and I'm not going to say anything either. But
he is saying all the right stuff. I think he
also said they're not looking to replace these players and
they're hopeful.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
To have a long term relationship with them.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Remember like last week when Viking's receiver Jordan Addison was
cited for driving one hundred and forty. Well, apparently he
was driving that fast because his dog was having an
emergency at home. I could not relate more. I would
go one forty for sure for my dog.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I mean things that people don't question about your kids
and your dog, yeah, right, or if your mom had cancer.
One of those things right, mm hmm. But the dog
wasn't in the Lamborghini right, No, it was always was
at home.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
He was trying to get home.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
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