July 27, 2023 • 52 mins
Doug explains why the Angels have decided to keep Shohei Ohtani and make a push for the post-season this year, and offers hope about them re-signing Ohtani after the year. Doug gives you his take on Colorado moving back to the Big 12. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on Sean Payton. Doug chooses among suitable candidates for who is most annoying. Plus, Doug gives you his Pick Of The Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome in. I don't aim to bullshit
shot right, and over the last two weeks. I haven't
bullshit show over the last two weeks. You know, we've
(00:32):
talked about the running back thing way too long, Like
the running back story is like a one day story,
maybe a two day story. But it wasn't like there
was anything else really that was screaming talk about me,
talk about me. Today, we got a bunch of stuff
that's screaming talk about me. Okay, you have let's start
(00:52):
in Baseball Show. Hey o Tani off the trademarket. The
Angels are like, they basically did the and I'm wearing
a hat so if you can watch his watching, they
basically did the Sly stallone in over the Top, right,
they went from sellers to buyers. They flipped that hat around.
(01:14):
Remember when Sly would flip the hat around and over
the top and the the arm wrestling movie, and then
he was like a completely different guy local my other round, right,
that's what the Angels did. By the way, at the
time of this recording, show, Hey Tany is pitching against
the lowly Detroit Tigers. Three innings, four strikeouts, and of
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course Jay stew wh who's a Dodger fan and Angel hater,
is ever the asshole, and he's like, what if you
blow up his shoulder on the start? Why would you
possibly say that?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
See, he's gonna gamble in free agency this year, so
if he blows out his shoulder and needs Tommy John again,
it what's the leverage in the off season.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tommy John's your forearm, he's never had it. He's had
Tommy John. Tommy John's not your shoulder at your elbow.
Oh okay, whatever you get for your shoulder, then your
shoulders rotator screw. Yeah, you're kind of screwed as a bitch.
There's they haven't they. Medical science hasn't really been able
to help the shoulder like it has the elbow so
or the UCL the owner collateral.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, maybe they can fix it and they can call
it the show haotan and it's in fifty years some
maybe like I had the show here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
To an asshole. That's why nobody likes you. That's it.
Nobody nobody, Nobody likes you, especially do you Dodger fans.
And by the way, you should want him to stay
healthy because Dodger fans think it's a done deal. He's
a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's gonna take a lot of resources and money. So
maybe there would be a blessing.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
One of the resources are there other than money? Yeah,
you're right, it'll take a lot of cat no period prospects.
Would the Dodgers be the one that sends them that
one draft pick that the Angels will get, No, it's
a conpensing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's just like on the end of the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it's on the end of It's like the fiftieth
pick or something. Anyway, so we have that story. We
got a bunch of football. First, in the injury front,
Jalen Ramsey went down non contact. That's never good. Leg injury,
might be a knee when they bring out the cart
never good. I just not good. And then what's the
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kid the top wide receiver for the.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
For the Jets, Wilson.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Garrett Wilson. He tweaked something, but no cart walked
off of his own power. And then the big story
out of Jets camp. Is that Aaron Rodgers were told
gave back thirty five billion. I want to dive into that.
And then Sean Payton went General Sherman and just burned
everything down with the Denver Broncos, not just last year's team,
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but even his current general manager. That's it's it's so.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I need to stop you there. I think that's your
first General Sherman reference in my presence, really, William to
coumsa Sherman.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You don't hear too me to comes as anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You don't, you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
He was the scorched earth policy, correct, that's what he did.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He burned everything in the South right from a like
Atlanta and yeah, was it all the way to Atlanta
was from Atlanta to Richmond?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I forget because Richmond was the capital of the South.
But yes, General Sherman, he just just burn it, burn
it down. And that's that's the that's where scorched earth
comes from.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I wonder if he stood up this morning kind of
like Apocalypse?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Do you like Apocalypse? Now?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I do?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I do?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Good movie?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's your favorite line from Apocalypse? Now? I only say
it because I know mine.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I love the smell of a napalm in the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's nothing like the smell it's it's not I think
it's me. Let me see if I can get the
timing of right. Yeah, you can. You can pull the sound.
Let's see how if I can get it right without
hearing it? Okay, smell that smell that napalm. I don't
remember if he says I love the smell of napalm
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in the morning, or he says there's nothing like the
smell of napalm in the morning, smells like victory. Hey,
that's it. I mean if that isn't an awesome Vietnam line,
you know that's a that's an amazing line.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's I love the smell of napalm.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Don't go on this spectim sick God, Devin.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Bomb ryder one Stampa.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The stoacks on.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't know how far to go, inte be for
you get it's okay. I'm sorry, no man, sorry, can't
you should be.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Three?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Rudder the anthem, and they pumped down in the tree
like can you get twist ground tanna put it down
their drive one?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Three you or make a funck with what car?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You trying to press the morning.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Fire off the tree and I am down there. Ride
your hair, come good, give it all your gun, bring
in all your ship.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
With wing a breath right about me like chop.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Get you back to the hospital. So hold no, no, no,
you're gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To we'll look the next morning when they're searching it
down here.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, they're they're they just ridiculed, ridiculed, riddled the whole area.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I can get your people back.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Hit.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Uh, it's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
You'll have this place to pick up the run if
you saw, don't you want it's those shorts with the
air cab.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Pust it for me in the boards. Want to see
you do your stuff for them. I'll turn hey, stell.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
That you smell that back eight fun son. Nothing else
in the world smells like that. I love the smell
of drap palm in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wait, don't don't cut out the last line.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
But twelve hours, when was all over, I walk up.
We didn't find one of them. That one stinking big
body smell you know that gasoline smelled all hell.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Smelled like victory.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Now help me help me out, Bramos, because you're older
than me and Jay Stu you're also older than me,
and you know more than me. I didn't. What I
had been told was that movie was a bit of
an albatross, right, it just bled money, right? And also
what am I forgetting?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What's the Martin Sheen?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Not Martin Sheen? Marlon Marln Brando was a complete pain
in the ass, right, right.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And he asked for a float of money too for
that movie.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And he showed up like one hundred pounds overweight. Yes, yes,
Colonel Kurtz. But was it a well received movie? Yeah?
I don't know if he made his money back. But
what he did was he put he put all his
money that he made from The Godfathers into this went
over budget. There's a documentary called Heart of Darkness. I
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recommend you watch it. It's fascinating. Heart of Darkness. It's
the story about how they cast somebody before It was
Harvey Kaitel who was cast instead of Martin Sheen. They
kicked him off the set days in to shoot. Martin
Sheen comes on, he almost has a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I think he did have a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Act, yeah I did. Marlon Brando shows up one hundred
pounds overweight. They're dealing with the extreme heat of the location.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It was the Philippines.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's just an incredible making of the movie that's almost
as good as the movie. But he probably made his
money back. I'm not sure, but yeah, it definitely was
a what do you call money pit?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, and the US Army did not want to give
any help to it. So all the helicopters and everything
you see is like the Philippine Army that they gave
them their stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's my favorite line. I just I love it. Right,
Remember then don't they go surfing right after that as well?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, In fact, the guy he's talking to, he's enthralled
by one of the guys from Martin Sheen's company because
he's a surfer, right, and he's like, I just want
to see you surf. And there's there's a picture in
this video that would just showed that. You hear the audio,
there's guys out there surfing, well while a bomb explodes
in the ocean, you know, in the lake or whatever
they're at.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And someone says, what, you could either surf or you
can fight. Yeah, I deverly surf. Surf would be my
surf would be my choice as well. Anyway, Yeah, you're
you're you know, you want scorched earth. That's that's your
that's your desire.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Uh, then we got all the football stuff and we
have Colorado to the Big twelve, which there's a lot
to it, and continuing good news that you know, we
think Brownie James will make it out. Will you know
he's going to be okay, we don't know if he's
going to play collegiate basketball or professional basketball whatever. Anyway,
I think the Otani thing is really interesting and this
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is a great discussion place for it. I did a
great discussion place for it. You know. I was, as
you guys know, when we recorded for the pod, I
was with Matt Holliday and Matt MAT's just like, this
is the dumbest thing ever. You got to trade the guy.
You have to get something for the guy. You can't
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end up with one compensatory pick for the best player
in the sport when you can get unload him. And
oh yeah, by the way, like you can't actually sign
him back. You could have. You could trade him and
then tell him like, look, dude, we want you back.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We're just going to bring you back. You're gonna have
all these prospects and other players to play with to
help your team. But they made the decision. They're sticking
with Otani. And you know, I wanted to see what
happened with the Detroit series. They're up three to nothing
right now in the first game of a double dip.
They had the best record since the All Star break.
Trout you feels like he's getting close to a return,
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And they went out and signed traded for what Lucas Galito.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yes, and like another reliever from the Ronaldo Lopez.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That guy he frequents one hundred miles an hour. He's
gotten amazing arms.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So they went out and got a cannon out of
the bullpen and got a top level, starting quality pitcher.
Who speaking of hater, Ramo sends me like his last
five starts and then Ramos, what are you looking at
with these last five starts that are bad?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, I mean he faced a bad team, right, he
beat the Cardinals and then I think the Mets, which
are not two good teams. The one good start was
the Blue Jays and then the other start he had
he pitched like three innings, right, or four innings or
something like that. I like him. I'm not saying he's
a bad pitcher. I'm just saying he hasn't been pitching
well this season compared to previous season, that's all. But
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I like him. I'm not saying's a bad pitcher. I'm
just saying that I think if you're going all in
for Otani, don't There's not many guys out there, I guess, right,
I mean, I could get Shurezer or something like that.
At least this guy's younger.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So there was I saw a list yesterday or two
days ago that he's he was the number one pitcher available,
starting pitcher, and the Angels got him. You could argue
whether or not he's good or not. He pitches to
a lot of barrels. He he just blows up in games.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, look, I mean I I looked to the stats
and I saw three three last five stars. Three were
goodlins which again and and like you said, Jay stew Like,
you went out and got the best one you could get.
You did the best you could do. And that's really
what this thing is about, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And by the way, your point about getting him back
even though you trade him, that happened a couple of
years ago with the worldest Chapman. Right, the Cubs trade.
The Yankees traded him to the Cubs. They want the
little Si and they got him back in the free agency.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Correct, all correct, None of that has changed that that
that that is very much a possibility, but that's not
why they chosen to go about it. I guess the
question is here, have you thought about the possibility that
this works? Have you also? And this may play into
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my hypotheses that show, hey, Otani likes playing for the Angels.
He just like, look, I like Blaymvia's I want to
see what's out there. You know, his agents kind of
got him into like no, dude, don't sign, don't sign.
Feels like the end of Goony's I remember the Goonies,
but they're like no sign, no sign. Yeah, we're just like,
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don't sign. Get as much as you can, and then like, look,
if you're happy, stay. There is something to being an Angel.
I get. They haven't been they haven't been good, They're
not far away from being really good. I mean, obviously
the rendome thing is just talk about albatross yikes, serious shikes.
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But they continue to get better. You know. Obviously in
last year's draft, they famnd ME drafted all pitching. They
have some really talented young players that continue to improve
and evolve, like they're not that far away, and you're
just sitting there going like, what if it works? What
if they get in the playoffs? And then they get
in the playoffs? What if they win a series? What then?
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You know, we all we we have a tendency to
do this. We all look at and and it's very
normal because so many franchises have earned this reputation. Chargers
earned this repetition. Hell, the Bengals right, like you go
back two years ago when the Bengals went to the
Super Bowl, Like there were all the signs there this
team could win in the playoffs. Yet it's hard to
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buy into the Bengals, Like, eh, I don't know, how
do I buy in the Bengals being good? But they are,
And I don't know, like if they if they keep
loading up with a couple more arms and get one
more bat, it's a pretty good team. And then if
you get Mike Trout back, it's a really good team.
The good roster.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know, I went to I went to school with
Phil and Nevian at Kyle State Fullerton. I'm happy for him.
This gives him a shot to finish with a decent record,
and maybe they'll I think he's a lame duck right now,
they'll give him an extension. I'm happy for him. John
Morosi told you when you were filling in for Herd
last week, and we'll get a chance. You just heard
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from him on the radio show today. But I think
he made a great point in that. Look, you've already
gotten more than you paid for with Otani, You've already
got a great deal. Everything up to now has been
nothing but profit and amazingness. So to let him go
for nothing is a little less impactful because you've already
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got more than what you paid for with this guy.
I think that's an interesting way to look at it.
And if you're the Angel fans, I think you can
look at it that way.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just I who was who came on our show
who said, like I think the Angels, this is all
part of the Hey, we signed up for this, We're
gonna see it all the way through. And I just
I just like that mentality. I just do like we
just don't do that in sports and in life, and
see things all the way through, see things all the
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way through the pain, see things all the way through.
You know it's like and then at the end of it,
if it's not working and there's something better out there,
then you shake hands and you go, hey, we're working
something better out there. Let's go, let's let's part company. Now.
I don't know that's the part of the mentality I think.
I just I'm fascinated by because it's my team and
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he is just such a unique player. A super talented player,
but such a unique player, Okay, and I I want
to see how this works. I also like what's lost
in it is here's a couple things like Mike Trout is, well,
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he's never won a playoff game, and he didn't hit well.
When they were in the playoffs. They lost because one
they didn't hit. Kansas City was amazing in the playoffs
that year. But two their bullpen, they just their bullpen
got worn down and maybe some of it was chasing.
They had the best record in the American League that
year they made to the playoffs, and that was one
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of the first years of the play in game, and
so Kansas City wouldn't have been in the playoffs previously.
It's like one of the dirty little secers that it's
basically like a first four to the Final Four sort
of thing for Kansas City that year, right, and even
Kansas City in the play in game, did they beat
the Rangers? I want to say, was like a they
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had or maybe it's the Astros they had, like a
crazy come from behind play in game.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
To even get to the Angels where it's.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The A's, it's like one of those where like butterfly effect,
Like if if they just lose to the A's, the
Angels might well go to the World Series, the whole
thing changes. I also point this out, there is the
distinct possibility that there's a bigger play at work. Now
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this is my it's not a conspiracy theory, but I
just I don't know because the Angels are a very
isolated organization. A year ago, the Angels were for sale.
A year and a half ago, the Angels closed on
a deal to buy all the property around the stadium
and they bought it for like three hundred and twenty
million dollars, which sounds like a lot of money. But
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it's in Anaheim, Okay, close to Disneyland, close to the
the what's called the Orange Crush, where's a bunch of freeways,
and like look if you there and there's a lot
of apartments right there that building. They have a couple
of little entertainment things. But the idea was that Artie
Moreno is gonna build an entertainment center, gonna build a
new stadium, and gonna completely kind of revamp that area.
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And then across the freeway is the pond which the
Ducks play in needs to be redone as well, and
they have a really cool train terminal which they just
built like three or four years ago as well, Like
it's gonna be a whole new deal. And then apparently
the city of Anaheim. City of Anaheim had a has
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a what's the word I'm looking for. They like it
was like it was an insider deal, and a bunch
of people within the City of Anaheim not only left
their jobs but got sued by the city because it
was like way below actual value, like the land should
have been worth probably twice as much, a one and
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a half time two and a half times as much. Now,
my argument would be, well, of course you sell it
at a cheap price because he's gonna build it up,
and then all the tax revenue you get ends up paying.
But whatever happened there after the deal fell apart to
buy the land. That's when he decided to sell the team,
and then, if you remember, he took it back. Now
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he's not selling the team. So is it possible that
there's some sort of agreement in place there where I
don't know, they hit a number that they think they
can agree on, and it's all going to be along
with the new stadium and all new and it's all
going to be based upon show Hey and Mike Trout.
I don't know, but we get to find out.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
By the way, Doug, you're right about the upcoming part.
The Angels next twenty five games, by the way, and
I heard yesterday that Trout doing better than normal, but
still not till like mid August. Maybe somewhere around there
he'll come back. So he said he's out for a
little bit. They play the Blue Jays, the Braves right
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who can many consider the best team in baseball, the
Mariners who are right on them in the wild card hunt,
the Giants who are playing above their heads, the Astros,
who obviously are always great. Then the Rangers, who are
the number one team in the West, Then the Rays
who are the number one team in the East. Then
the Reds who are the hottest team in baseball. So
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that's their next twenty five games. So that is going
to be the telling tale to the Angels making the
wild Card. That's that leave you all the way to
September first.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I don't know, I'm I'm
it makes me want to watch baseball, and that and
the rules makes me want to watch baseball. And again,
part of it is, I get it. It's my it's
my own team. So that's the way or reason I
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And you should feel that way for your own team.
That's positive.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, I want to talk about I want to do
the pod a little different today. Okay, do you guys
care at all about Colorado to the Big twelve, because
you guys are two California guys, not really college fans.
Do you care at all?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't let me sell you on why it's a
big deal. Okay, right, it's a big deal because when
all this conference realignment started, what was really screwed up
was basically Nebraska. Nebraska kind of started it all. Nebraska Missouri.
Missouri is does have the feel of a Big Ten school.
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They always want to be in the Big Ten and
they're in the Big twelve and the Big twelve. Again,
I'm a Big twelve alum. I am friends with Brett Yormark.
I think he's awesome. But let's just be honest in
terms of overall value of the conference, even when they
had Texas, it's not that of the Big ten, Big ten,
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much bigger alumni basis snowbound. State's incredibly successful, state funded,
well funded, Like, look at their resources, they're just better
and bigger than that of the Big twelve. But your
Missouri for one hundred years, you've been in the Big six,
Big eight, Big twelve, Like you're leaving all those rivalries behind.
So they openly opined for the Big ten and the
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Big ten ultimately selected Nebraska. Then Missouri selects the s
leaves for the SEC, Colorado leaves for the pack, and
all of a sudden, the conference ree alignment is real
and whatever, and they left for more money. But the
problem with when you're making more money is you're also
spending a shit ton more money. You just are you're
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you're spending you know, Like for Missouri, they go into
the SEC, and they were early on they were successful
because they were given a really soft schedule but early
on they were successful, but you had to build new stadium,
new facilities, knew everything, and so all that money you're
taking in, you're dolling out and spending Whereas you needed
new facilities in the Big Twelve, but it wasn't so
much so that you had to compete with the rest
of the Big twelve. Look at how much money the
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athletic department spend in each league. You want to be
somewhere in the middle to the top. But at that
moment in time, and this is like what two thousan ten.
The running line from anybody whose school left the Big
Twelve was, well, we left because it wasn't stable, and
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it may not ever be stable. It may not ever
continue to exist. Last year, when Oklahoma and Texas announced
they're leaving, people like, oh shit, what's happened to the
Big Twelve. So they went out and they reached out,
and they got some good schools byus, a great program,
a national name. They have their own. The Mormon fan
base is a real thing. They've had great success in
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college football, good success in college basketball. But it cost
them nothing to get out of the WCC cost Houston, Houston,
it makes way more sense to Houston than does the
Big Twelve. I think Houston's going to be great in
the Big twelve. A dynamic program to keep an eye
on UCF has been dying for somebody to say that
they're worthy for years, and now they're in a big conference.
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And Cincinnati kind of got left in the dust of
the old Big East. And it gives West Virginia a
travel partner and somebody like all that makes sense, But
that's not a Power five conference. Get Colorado is plus.
It's Colorado shuffling back on you know what, this didn't
work for us, that does. That's why it's big. It's
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not big because you care. It's big because it feels
like the Pac twelve's crumbling. It's big because the Big
twelve will in fact survive and will be It looks
like the third or fourth biggest conference in college athletics.
And it very much puts the fate of all of
the col Stanford, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, Wazoo, San New State,
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UNLV all the Malwast puts it very much Arizona, Arizono
State into question. And I'll tell you this so I
just I don't think it happens without Dion Sanders because
he's made Colorado cool, right, made Colorado cool? And what happened?
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When you have somebody who's that dynamic, they open your
eyes to the You know, why don't we think about Colorado? Right?
He works in Texas because he used to live there
coach high school football there. He's a national name. Colorado's
a national brand. It's a big school with a big following.
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It's within our footprint, right, gives BYU somebody who they
can consider arrival, like, gives us the Denver market, which
is still a growing market, like, and we have historic
ties to them. It kind of works. I don't think
any of it happens without Dion. I really really don't.
Now I'm interested to see and people say, well, how
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long does he stay there? Does he go to the
SEC if Dion and it's look, if Dion can make
it hit there, you know, if he can make it
hit there, and for him, it's going to be in
the portal and recruiting in the state of Texas where
he's extremely strong and coll it and look, they've always
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done a good job in California. I do wonder if
part of it is, Hey, they want to either get Arizona,
Arizona State, which I know that's not California, but they
have big bases in Arizon in California. But also that's
a big growing market in terms of players. I do
wonder though, if San Diu State is maybe in order
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for the Big twelve, because if it is now makes
a ton of sense. If he can turn that place
into a recruiting juggernaut, I think you stay. And here's
the reason. The reason that Oklahoma should have stayed in
the Big twelve is in the Big twelve they had
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the second biggest, second biggest budget, and though they weren't
in Texas, it was they had to have a home
in Dallas in terms of being able to recruit Texas kids.
They've had a ton of success there. They play there,
and they had dominated the Big Twelve for the last
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twenty five years. They've been the dominant program in the
Big twelve. Right, they've won like half the Big twelve
football championships. Right, You go into the SEC and on
a good year, you could win the SEC. But most
years you're gonna get buried and you look like everybody
else and you're not You're spending well. Previously, you had
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just greater resources than everybody in the SEC. You don't.
There's programs that are way ahead of you financially, and
the programs you're at the level with are you know, frankly,
programs that you look down on in terms of ole
miss is spending a ton in nil Right, you're back
now competing with Techa and m who's going to spend
way more than you. Regardless of that, you've been more
successful than them. So if you have the best job
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in your league, or one of the best jobs in
your league, you don't leave it for a below average
job in a different league. I think Dion there's a
if it works, I think there's a greater chance that
he actually stays, then he goes. If it doesn't work,
doesn't matter. He'll be back doing TV or something else
when he's done.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
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Speaker 2 (30:21):
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Speaker 1 (30:25):
The Fox Say.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
S.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio every day
at this time, we play for you a portion of
one of the previous shows on Fox Sports Trader Fox
Sports One. Here's Dan Patrick on Showho Ton.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
This I brought up yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Angels are buying,
not trading selling at the trade deadline and they brought
in a couple of pictures. You know they want to
win now and if you trade o Tanny away, although
I would have traded Otani because here's my thought process
with this. I okay, Arty Moreno doesn't want to be
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known as the owner who traded away show Heyo Tani.
I don't think you want to be known as the
owner who didn't get anything for show Heyo Tani when
he goes to free agency, and it seems like he's
going to free agency if he's not committing to you
right now to say, whatever it takes in the off season,
I want to stay, but I do want to go
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to free agency. This is where I want to stay.
If you say that to me and I'm Arty Moreno,
I'll take you at your word and then I'll let
you go to market and then we'll pay for you.
But if you're not going to commit to me, I
don't want you to walk at the end of the year.
When the Dodgers go, uh, what's the price tag? Yeah,
we'll pat or the Yankees or the San Francisco Giants
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or Seattle Mariners or Oriols or whoever. Now, all of
a sudden, you got four or five different teams, and
plus Otani would be going to a team that doesn't
have to give up any of its draft picks or
any of its players, any minor leaguers. You don't have
to deplete the farm system. If I'm Otani, you want
to make sure you're going to a team where you
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don't lesson there. You know the strength that you're going
to have. You want to look at this long term,
not just one year.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think any of that affects Sotani.
Just be honest with you, right, Like, he's not going
to pick a team based upon their farm system or
anything else. I think he'll pick it based upon money, location,
obviously chance to win. But you know, every organization is different,
you know. To me, this decision is about the Angels
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and whether or not the Angels feel like they can
legitimate the playoffs, And it's a cost benefit analysis. Is
it worth it if you don't get them? And Artie
said yes, and it's Alty's team and it's going to
be fascinating to watch. It is the for Jason Stewart,
(33:02):
you should love this. You're a poker guy. This is
all in I do. And this is all in with
a bad hand, right. They don't have King a king
Ace high. They they just don't. But it is a
it's a feeling like, you know what, I've been sitting
at this table for a while and I got a
good enough hand, and yeah, I can walk away with money.
(33:27):
But they don't call it gambling for nothing, right, And
I'm sure if you're if you're already you're sitting there
going like I paid all this money for Rendon. I
didn't do it because I thought he would suck. I
did it because I thought he'd be really good, like
a great third option, third hitter to show hey Atani,
you know, I thought he was awesome in the playoffs
like he was with the Nationals. It's a bad one,
it's a bad investment. So I think this is pushing
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those chips all in. Here's Jonas Docks and bratdy Quinn
talking about Colorado moving to the Big twelve.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
And if these reports are true that Colorado will get
the PAC twelve at least one year, and then they'll
be on their way back to the Big twelve, where
they probably never should have left to begin with.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So have fun with that.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
What's the buzz there in Indianapolis at Big ten Media Days,
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Yeah, so obviously this came out last night. Now, some
of us, especially been at the PAC twelve media days,
kind of got wind of this last week. And the
thought is it just it makes more geographical sense. I mean,
there's a thought with some Colorado purists they never should
have left the Big twelve, even back when it was
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the Big eight in the first place, that at that
point in time they felt like that was what was
in the best interest of Colorado. But some would define
it as a mistake. And so this now gets Colorado
back into a conference they're familiar with. I think they're
hoping to have a greater ground and ability to recruit
the state of Texas. And lastly, it's more money. I mean,
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that's the reality of it is. We can talk about
the Pack twelve media rights to you just joked about
the truth of the matter is we don't know what
they're going to sign for. But I'd have to imagine
it's less than the number that Colorado's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No, I think Colorado's going to get the full share
and all those details. And I don't blame Colorado. I
mean part of it is out of frustration because they've
been told there's a new TV deal, come, a new
TV deal come, a new TV deal coming, and no
new TV deals come. And the reason hasn't come is
they're never going to get to the number that they
wanted to get to. Here's Colin Coward talking about Sean
Payton's comments in USA Today.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
But the older I get, the more I like this.
We live in a world now where the mob is
constantly seeking an apology. People are easily offended. Yes, actions
do offend me. Words rarely do. Dana White said, shove
it right in the middle of COVID. I'm going to
lease an island. Don't like it, don't watch It's why
(35:57):
one of the many reasons I'm going to another UFC
fight this weekend. He's a man of action, flawed, imperfect,
but doesn't cower when he gets criticized. Dion Sanders I
said it a couple of weeks ago. Not everybody has
to blow up a football program like him, but it
is a way to do it. Dion Sanders walked in
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and said, there's the door. Most of us think we're
blowing this puppy up. You're bad and have been for
a decade. You know what, Dana White, Dion Sanders are
not perfect. They've made mistakes. Welcome to being human. I
love this from Sean Payton. If you're easily offended in
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the NFL. Uh oh, he stepped on toes who's toes?
Hackett was completely over his skis and nothing he said
was untrue.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, but you I mean, dude, the scorch shirt thing,
I mean, you talk about scort shirt, especially when and
I did understand he was talking about, well, it's the parents,
not the kid, it's the GM, it's the president, it's
everybody involved. But and and I also think, and this
is a big thing. I said this on the radio
show if you're listening here on the in the bonus pod,
if you want to know why the Chargers or other
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teams didn't reach out to hire Sean Payton despite the
fact that he's got incredible credentials, that tells you why, right,
he's going to have his own GM in place by
the start of next year. That will happen, you know.
I mean, he just cut the legs out from his
(37:36):
GM at George Patten, right, who did make mistakes. But
it feels like everything you heard about Sean Payton, where
he wanted to come in and run everything and run
everybody out of town, that proved to be true. It
doesn't matter that what he's saying is true. You don't
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fucking say it for a reason, right. You don't kill
other coaches to prop yourself up when you haven't coached
the game. I like, Sean, Shawn's always been good to us, Okay,
but this is in all candor. This is an ego
(38:22):
run completely amock and you're like, no, it's that dude.
Imagine if a player said this, right. When players say
this stuff, we always go like this fucking guy, right,
I mean again, like we can go through all these
different things, and this is a little bit par for
(38:44):
the course, right, Sean Payton with the bounty gate, Oh,
the league league screwing us? Right with the past interference
against the Rams. Here's what people forget about the past
interference against the Rams, right one. I actually think the
play was a lot closer. It's the one camera angle
(39:04):
which makes it look like the ball had gone whizzing by.
There's other camera angles that don't. And was it miss
p I sure, but it was a disaster of a
series by the Saints, right because what was it on
third down? Was it third down that Drew brees ground,
you know, dirted the ball right when he had a
(39:26):
guy open or instead of running it, they dirted the
ball and then that was the fourth down play if
I remember correctly. But here's the other thing. The Saints
got the ball back, had the ball to start overtime,
couldn't do anything. One bad call doesn't a playoff game make,
and he knows that, but he hyper focused on it.
It was always something. Remember they got beat at home
(39:48):
by the Minnesota Vikings, his last playoff appearance when they
when they lost to Tom Brady's team, like they fumbled
they had the ball that like things happened, things go awry.
I think Sean's an excellent coach. Hey, but the blaming
everybody else, and I'm also guessing that somebody was to
protect Russell Wilson because everybody said Russell Wilson's washed. But
(40:10):
there's a smart way to do it, Like look I
get it. You look at tape, Russell doesn't look like Russell.
There was a lot more going on last year than
just Russell Wilson not playing as well as in normal plays,
and we're going to try and fix all of that,
and it's a major task. We're trying to fix all
of that. But then go back and name names and
just completely crush a previous staff. Wow, that's not done.
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That's that's not how it works in sports. That's an
ego running up to me. I love the sound, don't
get me wrong. I love I mean or the quotes
that are amazing. But tell me where that's a cool
thing to do. You know, I'll give you an example.
I came here. I don't know if people how much
(40:57):
people listened before. The gentleman who who preceded me in
this chair. Hey, the gentleman who preceded me in this chair,
I think is really talented, smart and funny. I'm not
gonna get into anything that went on, but I when
I would listen to you guys, Ramos. It's how I
knew Ramos because Ramos was a big part of that show.
(41:20):
But I would say, like, hmm, you guys did way
too much hockey. You guys did other stuff, but again
I don't know what you guys were being told to
talk about or how you went about your business. My
only focus on I got here was I'm gonna be solid, consistent,
do the thing I've been doing for fifteen sixteen, fifteen
years at the time when I got the job, which is, Hey,
(41:41):
every day, we're gonna talk about the lead sport, national
sports story and try and have fun within that and
have good guests and keep it to sports. That was
my thing. That's what I was hired for. That's what
I've done. Do I agree with everything that's been done
before or at other shows like no, but any my
job and it's definitely not my job to be critical
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of other people publicly privately. This is how coaches talk.
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now it's
your annoying.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Hey, Doug, you know my thing about lazy advice? Right
quick synopsis? You know somebody's being lazy and doesn't want
to put any thought into advice. When you ask them
for their advice and they say to you just be yourself,
that means they've mailed it in. They don't want to
put any time into this. They probably don't care about you.
(42:54):
The next one under be yourself is just have fun.
If you ever hear somebody say that to you who
you're seeking advice from, just assume they want to put
no thought into your career advice. So Jordan Love yesterday
was talking to the Packers media and he said he
(43:16):
got a text from Aaron Rodgers. First training camp is
QB one. Oh yeah, Jordan, what what did the text
say from Aaron Rodgers? Jordan Love reads the text be yourself,
have fun and enjoy it annoying Today Aaron Rodgers giving
(43:40):
the bare minimum lazy advice to Jordan Love and a
text message.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Um, do you factor in the Hey, I'm going to
change my contract and give back thirty five million dollars
as part of the as a as a to feel
better about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
No, but that was on my list today.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
The people that like immediately fell for He's he's giving
back thirty five million dollars. Like Tom Pellisaro, who I love.
I love of all the newsbreakers, I like. I like
him a lot. He's the one who broke the news.
It was obviously an agent fed news that he broke
because it was basically Aaron's giving thirty five million dollars
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of his own money back to the Jets to invest
in other players. Sounds amazing. It sounds benevolent. I know
for a fact, and I haven't even I haven't even
looked at the fact check or anything else. I know
for a fact that he's not giving back thirty five
million dollars. But the people in the media, in our
business reacted as such, and that's disappointing. You need to
(44:52):
be a little bit more cynical than that. Nobody's giving
back thirty five million dollars, So the people that for
it right away last night, Doug, that's annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Wait, so you don't think he's given back give me back.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I don't. I think he's going to get it back
in some way, shape or form. Maybe not all of it,
but there's there has to be something in the small
print that says, after you're done retiring, we'll give you
a million and a half dollars per year until until
this has made well.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I do think there's something there to that in that
he if you saw this deal, there's actually two voidable
years at the end of the contract, and so to me,
it feels like at the end of the season they're
going to go back and redo it and put some
real money in those last couple of years and figure
(45:42):
it out. Now. The one part that I would give
Aaron Rodgers a little bit of a I actually like,
and we talked about this in some of the radio show,
is it just shows how unhappy he must have been
in Green Bay. And I actually get that right that
you're like, dude, just because now he's whether or not
they win or don't win. You know, it's just one
(46:05):
of those things where he got himself to such an
unhappy place that he made him give him some ridiculous contract,
then he tried to make him feel bad about trading him.
Then when they trade him, he completely won eighties and
becomes a man about town and is doing everything, and
(46:27):
now he's having the greatest time of his life. I'm
having fun here, which translates to I didn't have any
fun in Green Bay, Like, what do you want us
to do. Why because we drafted a guy that could
eventually replace you. Like, really, that's why you're acting like
such a bitch. Okay, I just I do believe that
(46:48):
personal happiness usually leads to professional success, and I'm intrigued
to see what he does and how it reinvigorates him.
And it shows like there's just some places have a
limit on how long you can stay there. And as
we shared, I think on this pod, I definitely want
a basketball pod that I was in. I was a
(47:09):
finalist for the UW Green Bay job, and look, I
thought it was really it's a cool place. So I actually,
I don't know if people know this. I actually drove
from Chicago up to Green Bay to meet with the
president and to meet with their committee. I've never been
to Green Bay, and it's a really weird town from
(47:31):
this couple aspects. One, it's built okay for football Sundays,
really wide interstates, all this great stuff. But the problem
is that well during that time, heere is March was
still snowing. Like there's a couple hundred thousand people in
(47:51):
the surrounding area. So now is there like no traffic,
there's these it's almost like an Olympic village that's been expanded.
I don't know. It is not a forevery for forever.
I remember Forever place for Aaron Rodgers. And that's one
thing that I'm learning. What else? Who else annoying? You?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Remember last week we did the Pat Mahomes autograph exchange
with the dad and the kid. Yes, and your takeaway is,
why the hell do you need an autograph? Let's end autographs. Yes,
autographs are stupid. Yes, Saquon Barkley. It's all over social media.
Not hard to find video of Saquon Barkley signing a
jersey of a fan, or signing a sign that says,
(48:33):
Saquon my ex will take me back if you sign this,
and Saquon signs it. And the way it's being purposed
on social media is what a great guy Saquon is.
I'm going to take the opposite, what an asshole this
kid is for asking for an autograph. That way, if
you have to guilt somebody into doing something, then you
(48:53):
can't feel good about it. We saw it last year
when we were out at RAMS Camp, which we're going
back to next week. Cooper cupped in an interview with you,
and I saw somebody. You remember the sign? I saw
somebody that had a sign that said, Cooper, we drove
all the way from northern California, could you please sign
this blankety blank? And I'm like, what a shitty move?
(49:15):
Like that's that's it's a bad guilt trip and karma
will get you at some point. So when everyone's praising
Saquon for being a nice kind and signing this, I'm
I'm I'm I'm gonna take a shot at the guy
who did this ploy. I'm guessing there is no X
because if you're a loser who needs an autograph, you
probably don't have a woman in your.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Life, do you? And is she that in the Saquon Barkley?
Is she that a Big Giants fan? I agree? I
think that's bullshit. Yeah, that one. That one doesn't make sense.
Uh I I don't. I again, I I don't know
about all women, but I find it really hard to
believe that what would get you back with your woman
(49:56):
is the autograph from Saquon Barkley. And if it is,
that relationship is probably not gonna last unless you look
like Saikwon Barkley. So we gotta figure out who's the who's.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
The autograph seeker, lazy advice, and the people that fell
for the give back.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I would say the autograph seeker, you're just you're just
annoying ask for the autograph, you don't get the autograph?
Ts move on.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (50:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Because we can.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I love this one. ESPN. I had the NBA today
and uh, they played a great Jeff Tigue story. There's
a bunch of Jeff Tigue stories going around from Paul
George's podcast, but they forgot to edit it out.
Speaker 8 (50:47):
That's on our Hot Supper bike store mcal Bridges.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
He discussed his teammate Ben Simmons here where he had to.
Speaker 11 (50:52):
Say, I got big confidence, I got big faith in
war this year. I think him like, you know, his
back was messed up in him actually like going through
you know, getting X ray stuff and them telling you
have to get surgery.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I think it kind of felt good for me.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
I think people didn't believe him because he kind of
was like the you know, maybe it was a Phily
like a Louisville who cried wolf. Sometimes we got faith.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Man.
Speaker 11 (51:15):
I think he's just I think he's in a good place,
like we're close, Like he's one talking in the chat
all the time, like he just just I think he
just feels that, like he has a fucking a lot
of friends and we all fuck with him, and obviously
we want him to score and stuff, but we ain't
not pressed about it, like you just want to be him,
be aggressive and just play it right way.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Next time, I will make sure to have a sleep
button there. That was Michail Bridges on Paul George's podcast.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Somebody needs to lose their job for that, right, I mean,
you can't allow that to happen. How many editors producers
did that have to go through before that happened?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Uh? Well, first is do they have to lose their
job for it? Because it is cable?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
I just there was when I was coming up, there
was a place in time where any of those seven
words aired, and somebody's losing their job, right ten seconds
of dead air. You lose your job. And for whatever reason,
there's been a lenience on stuff and it's harder to
fire people nowadays, but somebody needs to be punished for that, right.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah. I mean again, I don't know how it all happened,
but it's not a great look, especially when you're owned
by Disney. You don't like to curse. And it's a
very simple edit because somebody, a bunch like you said,
a bunch of people had to see it, and then
somebody had to put it in there, and somebody screwed up.
(52:37):
I'm not big on firing people. That's my thing. Why
can we play it for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. Check us out tomorrow.
The radio show starts at three eastern noon Pacific. I'm
Doug Gottlieb.
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the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What Up Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome in. I don't aim to bullshit
shot right, and over the last two weeks. I haven't
bullshit show over the last two weeks. You know, we've
(00:32):
talked about the running back thing way too long, Like
the running back story is like a one day story,
maybe a two day story. But it wasn't like there
was anything else really that was screaming talk about me,
talk about me. Today, we got a bunch of stuff
that's screaming talk about me. Okay, you have let's start
(00:52):
in Baseball Show. Hey o Tani off the trademarket. The
Angels are like, they basically did the and I'm wearing
a hat so if you can watch his watching, they
basically did the Sly stallone in over the Top, right,
they went from sellers to buyers. They flipped that hat around.
(01:14):
Remember when Sly would flip the hat around and over
the top and the the arm wrestling movie, and then
he was like a completely different guy local my other round, right,
that's what the Angels did. By the way, at the
time of this recording, show, Hey Tany is pitching against
the lowly Detroit Tigers. Three innings, four strikeouts, and of
(01:35):
course Jay stew wh who's a Dodger fan and Angel hater,
is ever the asshole, and he's like, what if you
blow up his shoulder on the start? Why would you
possibly say that?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
See, he's gonna gamble in free agency this year, so
if he blows out his shoulder and needs Tommy John again,
it what's the leverage in the off season.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Tommy John's your forearm, he's never had it. He's had
Tommy John. Tommy John's not your shoulder at your elbow.
Oh okay, whatever you get for your shoulder, then your
shoulders rotator screw. Yeah, you're kind of screwed as a bitch.
There's they haven't they. Medical science hasn't really been able
to help the shoulder like it has the elbow so
or the UCL the owner collateral.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, maybe they can fix it and they can call
it the show haotan and it's in fifty years some
maybe like I had the show here.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
To an asshole. That's why nobody likes you. That's it.
Nobody nobody, Nobody likes you, especially do you Dodger fans.
And by the way, you should want him to stay
healthy because Dodger fans think it's a done deal. He's
a Dodger.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It's gonna take a lot of resources and money. So
maybe there would be a blessing.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
One of the resources are there other than money? Yeah,
you're right, it'll take a lot of cat no period prospects.
Would the Dodgers be the one that sends them that
one draft pick that the Angels will get, No, it's
a conpensing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
It's just like on the end of the draft.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, it's on the end of It's like the fiftieth
pick or something. Anyway, so we have that story. We
got a bunch of football. First, in the injury front,
Jalen Ramsey went down non contact. That's never good. Leg injury,
might be a knee when they bring out the cart
never good. I just not good. And then what's the
(03:25):
kid the top wide receiver for the.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
For the Jets, Wilson.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, Garrett Wilson. He tweaked something, but no cart walked
off of his own power. And then the big story
out of Jets camp. Is that Aaron Rodgers were told
gave back thirty five billion. I want to dive into that.
And then Sean Payton went General Sherman and just burned
everything down with the Denver Broncos, not just last year's team,
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but even his current general manager. That's it's it's so.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I need to stop you there. I think that's your
first General Sherman reference in my presence, really, William to
coumsa Sherman.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You don't hear too me to comes as anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You don't, you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
He was the scorched earth policy, correct, that's what he did.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He burned everything in the South right from a like
Atlanta and yeah, was it all the way to Atlanta
was from Atlanta to Richmond?
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, I forget.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I forget because Richmond was the capital of the South.
But yes, General Sherman, he just just burn it, burn
it down. And that's that's the that's where scorched earth
comes from.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I wonder if he stood up this morning kind of
like Apocalypse?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Do you like Apocalypse? Now?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I do?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I do?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Good movie?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
What's your favorite line from Apocalypse? Now? I only say
it because I know mine.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I love the smell of a napalm in the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's nothing like the smell it's it's not I think
it's me. Let me see if I can get the
timing of right. Yeah, you can. You can pull the sound.
Let's see how if I can get it right without
hearing it? Okay, smell that smell that napalm. I don't
remember if he says I love the smell of napalm
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in the morning, or he says there's nothing like the
smell of napalm in the morning, smells like victory. Hey,
that's it. I mean if that isn't an awesome Vietnam line,
you know that's a that's an amazing line.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's I love the smell of napalm.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Don't go on this spectim sick God, Devin.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Bomb ryder one Stampa.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The stoacks on.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
I don't know how far to go, inte be for
you get it's okay. I'm sorry, no man, sorry, can't
you should be.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Three?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Rudder the anthem, and they pumped down in the tree
like can you get twist ground tanna put it down
their drive one?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Three you or make a funck with what car?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
You trying to press the morning.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
Fire off the tree and I am down there. Ride
your hair, come good, give it all your gun, bring
in all your ship.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
With wing a breath right about me like chop.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Get you back to the hospital. So hold no, no, no,
you're gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
To we'll look the next morning when they're searching it
down here.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, they're they're they just ridiculed, ridiculed, riddled the whole area.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I can get your people back.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Hit.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Uh, it's gonna be a big one.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
You'll have this place to pick up the run if
you saw, don't you want it's those shorts with the
air cab.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Pust it for me in the boards. Want to see
you do your stuff for them. I'll turn hey, stell.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
That you smell that back eight fun son. Nothing else
in the world smells like that. I love the smell
of drap palm in the morning.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wait, don't don't cut out the last line.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
But twelve hours, when was all over, I walk up.
We didn't find one of them. That one stinking big
body smell you know that gasoline smelled all hell.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
Smelled like victory.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Now help me help me out, Bramos, because you're older
than me and Jay Stu you're also older than me,
and you know more than me. I didn't. What I
had been told was that movie was a bit of
an albatross, right, it just bled money, right? And also
what am I forgetting?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What's the Martin Sheen?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Not Martin Sheen? Marlon Marln Brando was a complete pain
in the ass, right, right.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And he asked for a float of money too for
that movie.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And he showed up like one hundred pounds overweight. Yes, yes,
Colonel Kurtz. But was it a well received movie? Yeah?
I don't know if he made his money back. But
what he did was he put he put all his
money that he made from The Godfathers into this went
over budget. There's a documentary called Heart of Darkness. I
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recommend you watch it. It's fascinating. Heart of Darkness. It's
the story about how they cast somebody before It was
Harvey Kaitel who was cast instead of Martin Sheen. They
kicked him off the set days in to shoot. Martin
Sheen comes on, he almost has a heart attack.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I think he did have a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Act, yeah I did. Marlon Brando shows up one hundred
pounds overweight. They're dealing with the extreme heat of the location.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It was the Philippines.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's just an incredible making of the movie that's almost
as good as the movie. But he probably made his
money back. I'm not sure, but yeah, it definitely was
a what do you call money pit?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Yeah, and the US Army did not want to give
any help to it. So all the helicopters and everything
you see is like the Philippine Army that they gave
them their stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's my favorite line. I just I love it. Right,
Remember then don't they go surfing right after that as well?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Yeah, In fact, the guy he's talking to, he's enthralled
by one of the guys from Martin Sheen's company because
he's a surfer, right, and he's like, I just want
to see you surf. And there's there's a picture in
this video that would just showed that. You hear the audio,
there's guys out there surfing, well while a bomb explodes
in the ocean, you know, in the lake or whatever
they're at.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And someone says, what, you could either surf or you
can fight. Yeah, I deverly surf. Surf would be my
surf would be my choice as well. Anyway, Yeah, you're
you're you know, you want scorched earth. That's that's your
that's your desire.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
There.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Uh, then we got all the football stuff and we
have Colorado to the Big twelve, which there's a lot
to it, and continuing good news that you know, we
think Brownie James will make it out. Will you know
he's going to be okay, we don't know if he's
going to play collegiate basketball or professional basketball whatever. Anyway,
I think the Otani thing is really interesting and this
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is a great discussion place for it. I did a
great discussion place for it. You know. I was, as
you guys know, when we recorded for the pod, I
was with Matt Holliday and Matt MAT's just like, this
is the dumbest thing ever. You got to trade the guy.
You have to get something for the guy. You can't
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end up with one compensatory pick for the best player
in the sport when you can get unload him. And
oh yeah, by the way, like you can't actually sign
him back. You could have. You could trade him and
then tell him like, look, dude, we want you back.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
We're just going to bring you back. You're gonna have
all these prospects and other players to play with to
help your team. But they made the decision. They're sticking
with Otani. And you know, I wanted to see what
happened with the Detroit series. They're up three to nothing
right now in the first game of a double dip.
They had the best record since the All Star break.
Trout you feels like he's getting close to a return,
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And they went out and signed traded for what Lucas Galito.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yes, and like another reliever from the Ronaldo Lopez.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
That guy he frequents one hundred miles an hour. He's
gotten amazing arms.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
So they went out and got a cannon out of
the bullpen and got a top level, starting quality pitcher.
Who speaking of hater, Ramo sends me like his last
five starts and then Ramos, what are you looking at
with these last five starts that are bad?
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, I mean he faced a bad team, right, he
beat the Cardinals and then I think the Mets, which
are not two good teams. The one good start was
the Blue Jays and then the other start he had
he pitched like three innings, right, or four innings or
something like that. I like him. I'm not saying he's
a bad pitcher. I'm just saying he hasn't been pitching
well this season compared to previous season, that's all. But
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I like him. I'm not saying's a bad pitcher. I'm
just saying that I think if you're going all in
for Otani, don't There's not many guys out there, I guess, right,
I mean, I could get Shurezer or something like that.
At least this guy's younger.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
So there was I saw a list yesterday or two
days ago that he's he was the number one pitcher available,
starting pitcher, and the Angels got him. You could argue
whether or not he's good or not. He pitches to
a lot of barrels. He he just blows up in games.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, look, I mean I I looked to the stats
and I saw three three last five stars. Three were
goodlins which again and and like you said, Jay stew Like,
you went out and got the best one you could get.
You did the best you could do. And that's really
what this thing is about, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And by the way, your point about getting him back
even though you trade him, that happened a couple of
years ago with the worldest Chapman. Right, the Cubs trade.
The Yankees traded him to the Cubs. They want the
little Si and they got him back in the free agency.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Correct, all correct, None of that has changed that that
that that is very much a possibility, but that's not
why they chosen to go about it. I guess the
question is here, have you thought about the possibility that
this works? Have you also? And this may play into
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my hypotheses that show, hey, Otani likes playing for the Angels.
He just like, look, I like Blaymvia's I want to
see what's out there. You know, his agents kind of
got him into like no, dude, don't sign, don't sign.
Feels like the end of Goony's I remember the Goonies,
but they're like no sign, no sign. Yeah, we're just like,
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don't sign. Get as much as you can, and then like, look,
if you're happy, stay. There is something to being an Angel.
I get. They haven't been they haven't been good, They're
not far away from being really good. I mean, obviously
the rendome thing is just talk about albatross yikes, serious shikes.
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But they continue to get better. You know. Obviously in
last year's draft, they famnd ME drafted all pitching. They
have some really talented young players that continue to improve
and evolve, like they're not that far away, and you're
just sitting there going like, what if it works? What
if they get in the playoffs? And then they get
in the playoffs? What if they win a series? What then?
(15:19):
You know, we all we we have a tendency to
do this. We all look at and and it's very
normal because so many franchises have earned this reputation. Chargers
earned this repetition. Hell, the Bengals right, like you go
back two years ago when the Bengals went to the
Super Bowl, Like there were all the signs there this
team could win in the playoffs. Yet it's hard to
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buy into the Bengals, Like, eh, I don't know, how
do I buy in the Bengals being good? But they are,
And I don't know, like if they if they keep
loading up with a couple more arms and get one
more bat, it's a pretty good team. And then if
you get Mike Trout back, it's a really good team.
The good roster.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
You know, I went to I went to school with
Phil and Nevian at Kyle State Fullerton. I'm happy for him.
This gives him a shot to finish with a decent record,
and maybe they'll I think he's a lame duck right now,
they'll give him an extension. I'm happy for him. John
Morosi told you when you were filling in for Herd
last week, and we'll get a chance. You just heard
(16:21):
from him on the radio show today. But I think
he made a great point in that. Look, you've already
gotten more than you paid for with Otani, You've already
got a great deal. Everything up to now has been
nothing but profit and amazingness. So to let him go
for nothing is a little less impactful because you've already
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got more than what you paid for with this guy.
I think that's an interesting way to look at it.
And if you're the Angel fans, I think you can
look at it that way.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just I who was who came on our show
who said, like I think the Angels, this is all
part of the Hey, we signed up for this, We're
gonna see it all the way through. And I just
I just like that mentality. I just do like we
just don't do that in sports and in life, and
see things all the way through, see things all the
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way through the pain, see things all the way through.
You know it's like and then at the end of it,
if it's not working and there's something better out there,
then you shake hands and you go, hey, we're working
something better out there. Let's go, let's let's part company. Now.
I don't know that's the part of the mentality I think.
I just I'm fascinated by because it's my team and
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he is just such a unique player. A super talented player,
but such a unique player, Okay, and I I want
to see how this works. I also like what's lost
in it is here's a couple things like Mike Trout is, well,
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he's never won a playoff game, and he didn't hit well.
When they were in the playoffs. They lost because one
they didn't hit. Kansas City was amazing in the playoffs
that year. But two their bullpen, they just their bullpen
got worn down and maybe some of it was chasing.
They had the best record in the American League that
year they made to the playoffs, and that was one
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of the first years of the play in game, and
so Kansas City wouldn't have been in the playoffs previously.
It's like one of the dirty little secers that it's
basically like a first four to the Final Four sort
of thing for Kansas City that year, right, and even
Kansas City in the play in game, did they beat
the Rangers? I want to say, was like a they
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had or maybe it's the Astros they had, like a
crazy come from behind play in game.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
To even get to the Angels where it's.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The A's, it's like one of those where like butterfly effect,
Like if if they just lose to the A's, the
Angels might well go to the World Series, the whole
thing changes. I also point this out, there is the
distinct possibility that there's a bigger play at work. Now
(19:23):
this is my it's not a conspiracy theory, but I
just I don't know because the Angels are a very
isolated organization. A year ago, the Angels were for sale.
A year and a half ago, the Angels closed on
a deal to buy all the property around the stadium
and they bought it for like three hundred and twenty
million dollars, which sounds like a lot of money. But
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it's in Anaheim, Okay, close to Disneyland, close to the
the what's called the Orange Crush, where's a bunch of freeways,
and like look if you there and there's a lot
of apartments right there that building. They have a couple
of little entertainment things. But the idea was that Artie
Moreno is gonna build an entertainment center, gonna build a
new stadium, and gonna completely kind of revamp that area.
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And then across the freeway is the pond which the
Ducks play in needs to be redone as well, and
they have a really cool train terminal which they just
built like three or four years ago as well, Like
it's gonna be a whole new deal. And then apparently
the city of Anaheim. City of Anaheim had a has
(20:28):
a what's the word I'm looking for. They like it
was like it was an insider deal, and a bunch
of people within the City of Anaheim not only left
their jobs but got sued by the city because it
was like way below actual value, like the land should
have been worth probably twice as much, a one and
(20:49):
a half time two and a half times as much. Now,
my argument would be, well, of course you sell it
at a cheap price because he's gonna build it up,
and then all the tax revenue you get ends up paying.
But whatever happened there after the deal fell apart to
buy the land. That's when he decided to sell the team,
and then, if you remember, he took it back. Now
(21:09):
he's not selling the team. So is it possible that
there's some sort of agreement in place there where I
don't know, they hit a number that they think they
can agree on, and it's all going to be along
with the new stadium and all new and it's all
going to be based upon show Hey and Mike Trout.
I don't know, but we get to find out.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
By the way, Doug, you're right about the upcoming part.
The Angels next twenty five games, by the way, and
I heard yesterday that Trout doing better than normal, but
still not till like mid August. Maybe somewhere around there
he'll come back. So he said he's out for a
little bit. They play the Blue Jays, the Braves right
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who can many consider the best team in baseball, the
Mariners who are right on them in the wild card hunt,
the Giants who are playing above their heads, the Astros,
who obviously are always great. Then the Rangers, who are
the number one team in the West, Then the Rays
who are the number one team in the East. Then
the Reds who are the hottest team in baseball. So
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that's their next twenty five games. So that is going
to be the telling tale to the Angels making the
wild Card. That's that leave you all the way to
September first.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I don't know, I'm I'm
it makes me want to watch baseball, and that and
the rules makes me want to watch baseball. And again,
part of it is, I get it. It's my it's
my own team. So that's the way or reason I
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And you should feel that way for your own team.
That's positive.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Okay, I want to talk about I want to do
the pod a little different today. Okay, do you guys
care at all about Colorado to the Big twelve, because
you guys are two California guys, not really college fans.
Do you care at all?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I don't let me sell you on why it's a
big deal. Okay, right, it's a big deal because when
all this conference realignment started, what was really screwed up
was basically Nebraska. Nebraska kind of started it all. Nebraska Missouri.
Missouri is does have the feel of a Big Ten school.
(23:22):
They always want to be in the Big Ten and
they're in the Big twelve and the Big twelve. Again,
I'm a Big twelve alum. I am friends with Brett Yormark.
I think he's awesome. But let's just be honest in
terms of overall value of the conference, even when they
had Texas, it's not that of the Big ten, Big ten,
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much bigger alumni basis snowbound. State's incredibly successful, state funded,
well funded, Like, look at their resources, they're just better
and bigger than that of the Big twelve. But your
Missouri for one hundred years, you've been in the Big six,
Big eight, Big twelve, Like you're leaving all those rivalries behind.
So they openly opined for the Big ten and the
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Big ten ultimately selected Nebraska. Then Missouri selects the s
leaves for the SEC, Colorado leaves for the pack, and
all of a sudden, the conference ree alignment is real
and whatever, and they left for more money. But the
problem with when you're making more money is you're also
spending a shit ton more money. You just are you're
(24:27):
you're spending you know, Like for Missouri, they go into
the SEC, and they were early on they were successful
because they were given a really soft schedule but early
on they were successful, but you had to build new stadium,
new facilities, knew everything, and so all that money you're
taking in, you're dolling out and spending Whereas you needed
new facilities in the Big Twelve, but it wasn't so
much so that you had to compete with the rest
of the Big twelve. Look at how much money the
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athletic department spend in each league. You want to be
somewhere in the middle to the top. But at that
moment in time, and this is like what two thousan ten.
The running line from anybody whose school left the Big
Twelve was, well, we left because it wasn't stable, and
(25:10):
it may not ever be stable. It may not ever
continue to exist. Last year, when Oklahoma and Texas announced
they're leaving, people like, oh shit, what's happened to the
Big Twelve. So they went out and they reached out,
and they got some good schools byus, a great program,
a national name. They have their own. The Mormon fan
base is a real thing. They've had great success in
(25:33):
college football, good success in college basketball. But it cost
them nothing to get out of the WCC cost Houston, Houston,
it makes way more sense to Houston than does the
Big Twelve. I think Houston's going to be great in
the Big twelve. A dynamic program to keep an eye
on UCF has been dying for somebody to say that
they're worthy for years, and now they're in a big conference.
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And Cincinnati kind of got left in the dust of
the old Big East. And it gives West Virginia a
travel partner and somebody like all that makes sense, But
that's not a Power five conference. Get Colorado is plus.
It's Colorado shuffling back on you know what, this didn't
work for us, that does. That's why it's big. It's
(26:14):
not big because you care. It's big because it feels
like the Pac twelve's crumbling. It's big because the Big
twelve will in fact survive and will be It looks
like the third or fourth biggest conference in college athletics.
And it very much puts the fate of all of
the col Stanford, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, Wazoo, San New State,
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UNLV all the Malwast puts it very much Arizona, Arizono
State into question. And I'll tell you this so I
just I don't think it happens without Dion Sanders because
he's made Colorado cool, right, made Colorado cool? And what happened?
(27:00):
When you have somebody who's that dynamic, they open your
eyes to the You know, why don't we think about Colorado? Right?
He works in Texas because he used to live there
coach high school football there. He's a national name. Colorado's
a national brand. It's a big school with a big following.
(27:22):
It's within our footprint, right, gives BYU somebody who they
can consider arrival, like, gives us the Denver market, which
is still a growing market, like, and we have historic
ties to them. It kind of works. I don't think
any of it happens without Dion. I really really don't.
Now I'm interested to see and people say, well, how
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long does he stay there? Does he go to the
SEC if Dion and it's look, if Dion can make
it hit there, you know, if he can make it
hit there, and for him, it's going to be in
the portal and recruiting in the state of Texas where
he's extremely strong and coll it and look, they've always
(28:04):
done a good job in California. I do wonder if
part of it is, Hey, they want to either get Arizona,
Arizona State, which I know that's not California, but they
have big bases in Arizon in California. But also that's
a big growing market in terms of players. I do
wonder though, if San Diu State is maybe in order
(28:26):
for the Big twelve, because if it is now makes
a ton of sense. If he can turn that place
into a recruiting juggernaut, I think you stay. And here's
the reason. The reason that Oklahoma should have stayed in
the Big twelve is in the Big twelve they had
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the second biggest, second biggest budget, and though they weren't
in Texas, it was they had to have a home
in Dallas in terms of being able to recruit Texas kids.
They've had a ton of success there. They play there,
and they had dominated the Big Twelve for the last
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twenty five years. They've been the dominant program in the
Big twelve. Right, they've won like half the Big twelve
football championships. Right, You go into the SEC and on
a good year, you could win the SEC. But most
years you're gonna get buried and you look like everybody
else and you're not You're spending well. Previously, you had
(29:27):
just greater resources than everybody in the SEC. You don't.
There's programs that are way ahead of you financially, and
the programs you're at the level with are you know, frankly,
programs that you look down on in terms of ole
miss is spending a ton in nil Right, you're back
now competing with Techa and m who's going to spend
way more than you. Regardless of that, you've been more
successful than them. So if you have the best job
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in your league, or one of the best jobs in
your league, you don't leave it for a below average
job in a different league. I think Dion there's a
if it works, I think there's a greater chance that
he actually stays, then he goes. If it doesn't work,
doesn't matter. He'll be back doing TV or something else
when he's done.
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Speaker 1 (30:44):
This I brought up yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Angels are buying,
not trading selling at the trade deadline and they brought
in a couple of pictures. You know they want to
win now and if you trade o Tanny away, although
I would have traded Otani because here's my thought process
with this. I okay, Arty Moreno doesn't want to be
(31:07):
known as the owner who traded away show Heyo Tani.
I don't think you want to be known as the
owner who didn't get anything for show Heyo Tani when
he goes to free agency, and it seems like he's
going to free agency if he's not committing to you
right now to say, whatever it takes in the off season,
I want to stay, but I do want to go
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to free agency. This is where I want to stay.
If you say that to me and I'm Arty Moreno,
I'll take you at your word and then I'll let
you go to market and then we'll pay for you.
But if you're not going to commit to me, I
don't want you to walk at the end of the year.
When the Dodgers go, uh, what's the price tag? Yeah,
we'll pat or the Yankees or the San Francisco Giants
(31:49):
or Seattle Mariners or Oriols or whoever. Now, all of
a sudden, you got four or five different teams, and
plus Otani would be going to a team that doesn't
have to give up any of its draft picks or
any of its players, any minor leaguers. You don't have
to deplete the farm system. If I'm Otani, you want
to make sure you're going to a team where you
(32:10):
don't lesson there. You know the strength that you're going
to have. You want to look at this long term,
not just one year.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think any of that affects Sotani.
Just be honest with you, right, Like, he's not going
to pick a team based upon their farm system or
anything else. I think he'll pick it based upon money, location,
obviously chance to win. But you know, every organization is different,
you know. To me, this decision is about the Angels
(32:42):
and whether or not the Angels feel like they can
legitimate the playoffs, And it's a cost benefit analysis. Is
it worth it if you don't get them? And Artie
said yes, and it's Alty's team and it's going to
be fascinating to watch. It is the for Jason Stewart,
(33:02):
you should love this. You're a poker guy. This is
all in I do. And this is all in with
a bad hand, right. They don't have King a king
Ace high. They they just don't. But it is a
it's a feeling like, you know what, I've been sitting
at this table for a while and I got a
good enough hand, and yeah, I can walk away with money.
(33:27):
But they don't call it gambling for nothing, right, And
I'm sure if you're if you're already you're sitting there
going like I paid all this money for Rendon. I
didn't do it because I thought he would suck. I
did it because I thought he'd be really good, like
a great third option, third hitter to show hey Atani,
you know, I thought he was awesome in the playoffs
like he was with the Nationals. It's a bad one,
it's a bad investment. So I think this is pushing
(33:52):
those chips all in. Here's Jonas Docks and bratdy Quinn
talking about Colorado moving to the Big twelve.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
And if these reports are true that Colorado will get
the PAC twelve at least one year, and then they'll
be on their way back to the Big twelve, where
they probably never should have left to begin with.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So have fun with that.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
What's the buzz there in Indianapolis at Big ten Media Days,
Brady Quinn.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Yeah, so obviously this came out last night. Now, some
of us, especially been at the PAC twelve media days,
kind of got wind of this last week. And the
thought is it just it makes more geographical sense. I mean,
there's a thought with some Colorado purists they never should
have left the Big twelve, even back when it was
(34:34):
the Big eight in the first place, that at that
point in time they felt like that was what was
in the best interest of Colorado. But some would define
it as a mistake. And so this now gets Colorado
back into a conference they're familiar with. I think they're
hoping to have a greater ground and ability to recruit
the state of Texas. And lastly, it's more money. I mean,
(34:57):
that's the reality of it is. We can talk about
the Pack twelve media rights to you just joked about
the truth of the matter is we don't know what
they're going to sign for. But I'd have to imagine
it's less than the number that Colorado's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No, I think Colorado's going to get the full share
and all those details. And I don't blame Colorado. I
mean part of it is out of frustration because they've
been told there's a new TV deal, come, a new
TV deal come, a new TV deal coming, and no
new TV deals come. And the reason hasn't come is
they're never going to get to the number that they
wanted to get to. Here's Colin Coward talking about Sean
Payton's comments in USA Today.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
But the older I get, the more I like this.
We live in a world now where the mob is
constantly seeking an apology. People are easily offended. Yes, actions
do offend me. Words rarely do. Dana White said, shove
it right in the middle of COVID. I'm going to
lease an island. Don't like it, don't watch It's why
(35:57):
one of the many reasons I'm going to another UFC
fight this weekend. He's a man of action, flawed, imperfect,
but doesn't cower when he gets criticized. Dion Sanders I
said it a couple of weeks ago. Not everybody has
to blow up a football program like him, but it
is a way to do it. Dion Sanders walked in
(36:19):
and said, there's the door. Most of us think we're
blowing this puppy up. You're bad and have been for
a decade. You know what, Dana White, Dion Sanders are
not perfect. They've made mistakes. Welcome to being human. I
love this from Sean Payton. If you're easily offended in
(36:39):
the NFL. Uh oh, he stepped on toes who's toes?
Hackett was completely over his skis and nothing he said
was untrue.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, but you I mean, dude, the scorch shirt thing,
I mean, you talk about scort shirt, especially when and
I did understand he was talking about, well, it's the parents,
not the kid, it's the GM, it's the president, it's
everybody involved. But and and I also think, and this
is a big thing. I said this on the radio
show if you're listening here on the in the bonus pod,
if you want to know why the Chargers or other
(37:14):
teams didn't reach out to hire Sean Payton despite the
fact that he's got incredible credentials, that tells you why, right,
he's going to have his own GM in place by
the start of next year. That will happen, you know.
I mean, he just cut the legs out from his
(37:36):
GM at George Patten, right, who did make mistakes. But
it feels like everything you heard about Sean Payton, where
he wanted to come in and run everything and run
everybody out of town, that proved to be true. It
doesn't matter that what he's saying is true. You don't
(38:00):
fucking say it for a reason, right. You don't kill
other coaches to prop yourself up when you haven't coached
the game. I like, Sean, Shawn's always been good to us, Okay,
but this is in all candor. This is an ego
(38:22):
run completely amock and you're like, no, it's that dude.
Imagine if a player said this, right. When players say
this stuff, we always go like this fucking guy, right,
I mean again, like we can go through all these
different things, and this is a little bit par for
(38:44):
the course, right, Sean Payton with the bounty gate, Oh,
the league league screwing us? Right with the past interference
against the Rams. Here's what people forget about the past
interference against the Rams, right one. I actually think the
play was a lot closer. It's the one camera angle
(39:04):
which makes it look like the ball had gone whizzing by.
There's other camera angles that don't. And was it miss
p I sure, but it was a disaster of a
series by the Saints, right because what was it on
third down? Was it third down that Drew brees ground,
you know, dirted the ball right when he had a
(39:26):
guy open or instead of running it, they dirted the
ball and then that was the fourth down play if
I remember correctly. But here's the other thing. The Saints
got the ball back, had the ball to start overtime,
couldn't do anything. One bad call doesn't a playoff game make,
and he knows that, but he hyper focused on it.
It was always something. Remember they got beat at home
(39:48):
by the Minnesota Vikings, his last playoff appearance when they
when they lost to Tom Brady's team, like they fumbled
they had the ball that like things happened, things go awry.
I think Sean's an excellent coach. Hey, but the blaming
everybody else, and I'm also guessing that somebody was to
protect Russell Wilson because everybody said Russell Wilson's washed. But
(40:10):
there's a smart way to do it, Like look I
get it. You look at tape, Russell doesn't look like Russell.
There was a lot more going on last year than
just Russell Wilson not playing as well as in normal plays,
and we're going to try and fix all of that,
and it's a major task. We're trying to fix all
of that. But then go back and name names and
just completely crush a previous staff. Wow, that's not done.
(40:35):
That's that's not how it works in sports. That's an
ego running up to me. I love the sound, don't
get me wrong. I love I mean or the quotes
that are amazing. But tell me where that's a cool
thing to do. You know, I'll give you an example.
I came here. I don't know if people how much
(40:57):
people listened before. The gentleman who who preceded me in
this chair. Hey, the gentleman who preceded me in this chair,
I think is really talented, smart and funny. I'm not
gonna get into anything that went on, but I when
I would listen to you guys, Ramos. It's how I
knew Ramos because Ramos was a big part of that show.
(41:20):
But I would say, like, hmm, you guys did way
too much hockey. You guys did other stuff, but again
I don't know what you guys were being told to
talk about or how you went about your business. My
only focus on I got here was I'm gonna be solid, consistent,
do the thing I've been doing for fifteen sixteen, fifteen
years at the time when I got the job, which is, Hey,
(41:41):
every day, we're gonna talk about the lead sport, national
sports story and try and have fun within that and
have good guests and keep it to sports. That was
my thing. That's what I was hired for. That's what
I've done. Do I agree with everything that's been done
before or at other shows like no, but any my
job and it's definitely not my job to be critical
(42:01):
of other people publicly privately. This is how coaches talk.
That's what the Fox said say.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
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Speaker 2 (42:22):
Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now it's
your annoying.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Hey, Doug, you know my thing about lazy advice? Right
quick synopsis? You know somebody's being lazy and doesn't want
to put any thought into advice. When you ask them
for their advice and they say to you just be yourself,
that means they've mailed it in. They don't want to
put any time into this. They probably don't care about you.
(42:54):
The next one under be yourself is just have fun.
If you ever hear somebody say that to you who
you're seeking advice from, just assume they want to put
no thought into your career advice. So Jordan Love yesterday
was talking to the Packers media and he said he
(43:16):
got a text from Aaron Rodgers. First training camp is
QB one. Oh yeah, Jordan, what what did the text
say from Aaron Rodgers? Jordan Love reads the text be yourself,
have fun and enjoy it annoying Today Aaron Rodgers giving
(43:40):
the bare minimum lazy advice to Jordan Love and a
text message.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Um, do you factor in the Hey, I'm going to
change my contract and give back thirty five million dollars
as part of the as a as a to feel
better about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
No, but that was on my list today.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
The people that like immediately fell for He's he's giving
back thirty five million dollars. Like Tom Pellisaro, who I love.
I love of all the newsbreakers, I like. I like
him a lot. He's the one who broke the news.
It was obviously an agent fed news that he broke
because it was basically Aaron's giving thirty five million dollars
(44:29):
of his own money back to the Jets to invest
in other players. Sounds amazing. It sounds benevolent. I know
for a fact, and I haven't even I haven't even
looked at the fact check or anything else. I know
for a fact that he's not giving back thirty five
million dollars. But the people in the media, in our
business reacted as such, and that's disappointing. You need to
(44:52):
be a little bit more cynical than that. Nobody's giving
back thirty five million dollars, So the people that for
it right away last night, Doug, that's annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Wait, so you don't think he's given back give me back.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
I don't. I think he's going to get it back
in some way, shape or form. Maybe not all of it,
but there's there has to be something in the small
print that says, after you're done retiring, we'll give you
a million and a half dollars per year until until
this has made well.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
I do think there's something there to that in that
he if you saw this deal, there's actually two voidable
years at the end of the contract, and so to me,
it feels like at the end of the season they're
going to go back and redo it and put some
real money in those last couple of years and figure
(45:42):
it out. Now. The one part that I would give
Aaron Rodgers a little bit of a I actually like,
and we talked about this in some of the radio show,
is it just shows how unhappy he must have been
in Green Bay. And I actually get that right that
you're like, dude, just because now he's whether or not
they win or don't win. You know, it's just one
(46:05):
of those things where he got himself to such an
unhappy place that he made him give him some ridiculous contract,
then he tried to make him feel bad about trading him.
Then when they trade him, he completely won eighties and
becomes a man about town and is doing everything, and
(46:27):
now he's having the greatest time of his life. I'm
having fun here, which translates to I didn't have any
fun in Green Bay, Like, what do you want us
to do. Why because we drafted a guy that could
eventually replace you. Like, really, that's why you're acting like
such a bitch. Okay, I just I do believe that
(46:48):
personal happiness usually leads to professional success, and I'm intrigued
to see what he does and how it reinvigorates him.
And it shows like there's just some places have a
limit on how long you can stay there. And as
we shared, I think on this pod, I definitely want
a basketball pod that I was in. I was a
(47:09):
finalist for the UW Green Bay job, and look, I
thought it was really it's a cool place. So I actually,
I don't know if people know this. I actually drove
from Chicago up to Green Bay to meet with the
president and to meet with their committee. I've never been
to Green Bay, and it's a really weird town from
(47:31):
this couple aspects. One, it's built okay for football Sundays,
really wide interstates, all this great stuff. But the problem
is that well during that time, heere is March was
still snowing. Like there's a couple hundred thousand people in
(47:51):
the surrounding area. So now is there like no traffic,
there's these it's almost like an Olympic village that's been expanded.
I don't know. It is not a forevery for forever.
I remember Forever place for Aaron Rodgers. And that's one
thing that I'm learning. What else? Who else annoying? You?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Remember last week we did the Pat Mahomes autograph exchange
with the dad and the kid. Yes, and your takeaway is,
why the hell do you need an autograph? Let's end autographs. Yes,
autographs are stupid. Yes, Saquon Barkley. It's all over social media.
Not hard to find video of Saquon Barkley signing a
jersey of a fan, or signing a sign that says,
(48:33):
Saquon my ex will take me back if you sign this,
and Saquon signs it. And the way it's being purposed
on social media is what a great guy Saquon is.
I'm going to take the opposite, what an asshole this
kid is for asking for an autograph. That way, if
you have to guilt somebody into doing something, then you
(48:53):
can't feel good about it. We saw it last year
when we were out at RAMS Camp, which we're going
back to next week. Cooper cupped in an interview with you,
and I saw somebody. You remember the sign? I saw
somebody that had a sign that said, Cooper, we drove
all the way from northern California, could you please sign
this blankety blank? And I'm like, what a shitty move?
(49:15):
Like that's that's it's a bad guilt trip and karma
will get you at some point. So when everyone's praising
Saquon for being a nice kind and signing this, I'm
I'm I'm I'm gonna take a shot at the guy
who did this ploy. I'm guessing there is no X
because if you're a loser who needs an autograph, you
probably don't have a woman in your.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Life, do you? And is she that in the Saquon Barkley?
Is she that a Big Giants fan? I agree? I
think that's bullshit. Yeah, that one. That one doesn't make sense.
Uh I I don't. I again, I I don't know
about all women, but I find it really hard to
believe that what would get you back with your woman
(49:56):
is the autograph from Saquon Barkley. And if it is,
that relationship is probably not gonna last unless you look
like Saikwon Barkley. So we gotta figure out who's the who's.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
The autograph seeker, lazy advice, and the people that fell
for the give back.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I would say the autograph seeker, you're just you're just
annoying ask for the autograph, you don't get the autograph?
Ts move on.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (50:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Because we can.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
I love this one. ESPN. I had the NBA today
and uh, they played a great Jeff Tigue story. There's
a bunch of Jeff Tigue stories going around from Paul
George's podcast, but they forgot to edit it out.
Speaker 8 (50:47):
That's on our Hot Supper bike store mcal Bridges.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
He discussed his teammate Ben Simmons here where he had to.
Speaker 11 (50:52):
Say, I got big confidence, I got big faith in
war this year. I think him like, you know, his
back was messed up in him actually like going through
you know, getting X ray stuff and them telling you
have to get surgery.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I think it kind of felt good for me.
Speaker 11 (51:08):
I think people didn't believe him because he kind of
was like the you know, maybe it was a Phily
like a Louisville who cried wolf. Sometimes we got faith.
Speaker 6 (51:15):
Man.
Speaker 11 (51:15):
I think he's just I think he's in a good place,
like we're close, Like he's one talking in the chat
all the time, like he just just I think he
just feels that, like he has a fucking a lot
of friends and we all fuck with him, and obviously
we want him to score and stuff, but we ain't
not pressed about it, like you just want to be him,
be aggressive and just play it right way.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Next time, I will make sure to have a sleep
button there. That was Michail Bridges on Paul George's podcast.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Somebody needs to lose their job for that, right, I mean,
you can't allow that to happen. How many editors producers
did that have to go through before that happened?
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Uh? Well, first is do they have to lose their
job for it? Because it is cable?
Speaker 3 (51:56):
I just there was when I was coming up, there
was a place in time where any of those seven
words aired, and somebody's losing their job, right ten seconds
of dead air. You lose your job. And for whatever reason,
there's been a lenience on stuff and it's harder to
fire people nowadays, but somebody needs to be punished for that, right.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah. I mean again, I don't know how it all happened,
but it's not a great look, especially when you're owned
by Disney. You don't like to curse. And it's a
very simple edit because somebody, a bunch like you said,
a bunch of people had to see it, and then
somebody had to put it in there, and somebody screwed up.
(52:37):
I'm not big on firing people. That's my thing. Why
can we play it for you? Because we can. That's
it for the end the Bonus Podcast. Check us out tomorrow.
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