August 7, 2023 • 36 mins
Dan and Monse in for Doug, and they explain what made the USWNT loss against Sweden was a choke job and the criticism this team has received. College Football Analyst for FOX Sports RJ Young joins the show to discuss all of the movement in college football and the dissolution of the Pac 12 as we know it. Plus, Monse takes Dan through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Jason Stewart's here. John Ramos is here in the US
women's national team no longer here after being dismissed in
the World Cup.
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I understand, I understand time zones, but I'm going to
use the Pacific time zone because that's where we are
located here at Fox Sports Radio. Ganys, do that were
you at two am are on Sunday morning? Did you
stay up? Did you get up to watch the US Women's.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
National I did not make it.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I tried. I tried.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
John Ramos, you awake at two.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
I was awake, but then I realized I couldn't stay up,
so I was only in for like thirty minutes and
how to bet.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
And Jason Stewart two am or for you on Sunday morning. No,
I was not.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
If I lived in Denver all morning, I would just
be like three am. I must be alone for the
entire first hour of the match. That's what I would
have been singing. And then in the Pacific time zone,
if I was up at that specific point, I would
have sang it in the second half. But I did
because of the Sunday morning show that I do with
Mike Carmen. Was up early enough to see the conclusion
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of the scoreless draw then on the penalty kicks, and
there was so much to talk about, not only about
this team, but I think Manci one of the things
that we are moving past very quickly, and it's part
of the conversation, and it's a conversation that Doug has
had on the show, and it started at the beginning
of this World Cup of the point of if you're
(01:54):
going to analyze this US women's national team the way
that we analyze the Cleveland Browns or the Los Angelesvikers
or the New York Yankees, you gotta have some thick
skin because there is heat that comes with it, and
what came with Sunday Manzi, I think is an absolute
choke job by the US women's national team as they
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were bouncing the round of sixteen against Sweden. We talk
about so many different angles, we just haven't talked about
the fact that they had an opportunity to win this match,
to right their wrongs from the group play, and couldn't
get it done when they needed it the most.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, all of their matches weren't pretty, and you
could argue that Sunday's match was probably the prettiest out
of all the ones that they had played, and it
still wasn't great.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It still did not live up to the expectation that
everybody had.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I agree you have to have thick skin if
you are in this position, because it is still a privilege.
It is You're very lucky to be in this position
where you're expected to possibly win three in a row.
Nobody's ever done that. It is a privilege, and you
have to have thick skin. But the hate, the criticism
is on a different level.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think that there are there are reasons for that,
and I think there's strictly you know, there political lines
are drawn. Yes, I do feel that it has been
heavier because, uh, frankly because they are women, right, and
then that that's the heat has been heavier on that
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squad for some of the things that have been said,
by the way, not by all players, certain players have
said just like, you know, I saw a clip you know,
recently of the national anthem during one of them, and
they were pointing out, like who was singing and who
wasn't singing. When I go to a sporting event, I
don't sing the national anthem. I should take my cap
off and I put my hand on my heart or
do what I normally do. But I'm not singing word
(03:45):
for word, and here someone's pointing out eight of the
ten players that were lined up to not sing. I
just I feel that it's elevated because they are women,
not necessarily because of what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm glad you said that, And it wasn't me that
had to say that, because I was this entire tournament.
They've been criticized because again, they did not come out
the way everybody was expecting from the get go. And
I remember talking to a few of my friends about this,
and I was like man seeing how much they are
being negatively talked about when I never seen this on
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the men's side, who haven't won and haven't done anything,
and yet the way that they are really being torn
apart is.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
A different level. And I think you're right. There are layers,
there are factors, and one of them is that there
are women. Because when have you ever heard, Oh, these
guys aren't singing the national anthem?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Never?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Never, That's never been a thing. Didn't that's so set.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I didn't even realize, honestly, that they do that at
the beginning of the matches, Like I thought, maybe, you know,
for an opening ceremony when you're brought out like the
athletes at an Olympics are brought out when you win
the medal, you know, you obviously on the podium. But
I didn't even realize that prior to the matches that
they had they were doing that. I'm sure I'd seen
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in another World Cups and just forgot it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And they do it in other sports, you know, especially
like I can already see Lebron James as the camera's
going by him really slowly when they're singing the national
anthem in the NBA, you.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Know, like they didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But never has anyone really sat down and counted who's
singing and who's not.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I can't remember anybody ever pointing out whether an NBA
player did or didn't. I do find an interesting and
relishing in the defeat as it were. You know, Doug
had said on this show that he felt that it
would be good for the attention and women soccer for
them to essentially lose. Am I give that right, Jason,
just of maybe a reset or John Doug saying like,
(05:40):
you know, maybe maybe the team needs to bounce back
from something like the two thousand and four US men's
basketball team did, like they needed they needed something.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
To get right.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was that was That's exactly
what just was Doug's message. And sometimes when you're when
you're winning two and three World Cups in a row,
it can get a little old and monotonous.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Sure they came in thinking that they were going to
handle it, you know, I'm sure that was part of
the problem that you thought this was in the bag,
that maybe you were going to have a couple of
tough matches. But I'm sure mentally, they thought they were
going to handle this and that was part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, we talk about the NBA, and this is
where I think is a good comparison. Let's take Lebron
for an example, with the Cleveland Cavaliers. I want to
do it with the Lakers. I want to do with
the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland Cavaliers years back, you could go
through a regular season and kind of sleep walk a
little bit, but you were going to get into the bracket.
And if you're filling out your bracket in the East,
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what team were you putting in the NBA finals? What
are the Cleveland Cavaliers?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So, the United States, because of the pedigree and winning
the previous World Cups that they have, despite the poor showing,
still coming in with the number one ranking, that if
they get to the round of sixteen, which they needed
the scoreless draw even against Portugal, even that wasn't good
enough in some eyes because you're saying it's a must
win game when really they needed to tie that game
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for their own sake, and they did, but still you
get into the bracket. I think that Sweden probably was
like crap, we got to face the US, Like there's there.
They even thought, and I think we thought, all right,
maybe this is the opportunity for the US to turn
it around now that the playoffs have started. And I
know think you use the term playoffs in the World Cup,
but I'm using it in the Cavaliers example here of
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you would be betting on the Cavaliers to make their
run to the NBA finals because they've got Lebron, they're
in the playoffs. The regular season maybe doesn't matter. And
that's what makes yesterday so big and why I'm frankly
shocked to hear that we haven't heard more about this
team choking in the biggest moment. And choking is such
a heavy word. I was even spelling it out yesterday
(07:46):
with Mike Harmon because I couldn't say it Monzie like
it was a way, because it is. It is a heavy,
heavy accusation to put on a team. But the US
was three for three at the start of their round
of the penalty kicks, the essentially, as we come to
find out, needed one of the last two to go.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And this is Megan Rapino.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Misses badly, awful, badly.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Hasn't missed a penalty kick since twenty eighteen and that
five years she has not missed on a penalty kick,
and she missed. And then Sophia Smith comes up and
the close up and I feel I mean, when they
put her face on the screen, the look of the
weight of the moment was there. You can see it
(08:30):
like I'm sorry, Like if you were watching on TV,
if you were watching on Fox, you could see the
weight of the moment. And again what happens, missus badly
absolutely misses. And the choke is a keyword here and
it's a heavy word. And think of all the moments.
Do you any choking moments that you guys remember big
(08:52):
moments in sports where someone choked? John Ramos, is there
is there one for you that stands out where you're
just like that guy didn't get done in the clutch,
one was choking. Jason Stewart, Manzi Belanos, any of you
have a moment where you feel like somebody just choked
in the moment.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Scott Norwood, right?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Uh not?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Score?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Would not Scorewood?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, perfect example, Buffalo Bills kicker, Yeah, John, did you
have one?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Was it the Knicks guy?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
John Stars? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, yeah, couldn't make a field goal, couldn't at the
broad side of a barn.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I wouldn't say this as a choke, but recently Marcus
Smart missing that open three pointer for the Celtics in
the playoffs sure like not choke, But man, you should
have made that.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I go back to Cody Parky, the scapegoat for the
Chicago Bears and Matt Nagy's main enemy, improving why they
didn't win their playoff game with the Philadelphia Eagles. You
know why because Cody Parky choked in missing a forty
three hard field goal in the middle of winter in
downtown Chicago on the shores of Lake Michigan. When is
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the football that he kicked, by the way, didn't hit
just one part of the upright, it also hit the crossbar.
And the reason I'm bringing this up, and this is
why numbers will tell you that the US women's national
team choked Cody Parky's kick in that game. Again, he
is now the most recent poster child of someone who
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choked in a big moment NFC Wild Card game playoffs
on the line his kick. When the ball usually hits
the upright, it will either go left or right, and
in this case, left would have been no good, right
would have been good. Most kicks when they hit the upright,
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fall into the goal and it's good.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
The luck.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The luck was so bad for Cody Parky that not
only did his football hit the upright and fall to
the right place, but it just happened to fall on
the crossbar, which then knocked it out. But yet we
blamed Cody Parky because guess what, they didn't make the
field goal in that point. You want to talk about
bad luck, that is bad luck. I'm a golf person.
(11:06):
Jean van Develt nineteen ninety nine Open Championship, three shot
lead on the final hole, ends up scoring a triple bogie.
There was awful luck for Jean van Develt in that scenario.
Cody Parky from forty three yards out again in Chicago
in the dead of winter in a playoff game. Since
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two thousand, there was the stat that I found sixty
three point two percent of kicks from forty to fifty
yards in Soldier Field kicking that direction were made. It's
the lowest percentage of any stadium in the National Football
League in kicking towards any direction. You could go to
Sofi Stadium, you could go to lambeau Field, you could
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go to at and t Stadium.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
You could go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There was no worse direction to kick in the NFL
than kicking North in Chicago. That's what Cody Parky was doing.
You want to know what else Cody Parkey when he
kicked this forty three yard attempt.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Seventy seven percent.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of field goals from two thousand and nine to twenty
nineteen were made from forty three yards, so twenty three
percent missing. The reason I'm bringing this up and I
feel that this is so crucial, stats were taken top
level scoring World Cup, FA Cup International competitions. Eighty five
percent of penalties taken at that level were scored. So
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Cody Parky is seventy seven percent chance when the when
the when the conditions are ripe and you're in the
right you're in the right spot, really sixty three percent.
In reality, there was an eighty five percent chance that
the US had an opportunity to make that kick. Eleven
percent of the fifteen percent that were not made were
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saved by the goalie. So you're talking this small window
of missing the goal entirely, and the US did it
not once, not twice, three times.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And battling Yeah, and then speaking of bad luck, could
you say that it was bad luck because the penalty
kick that did go in for Sweden had to even
be looked at with var and it was a milli leader,
a milli leader that it crossed the line, you know,
So is that can we also say it was unlucky?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'll tell you what, or is it still a choke job?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I I the there was a point where the United
States had an opportunity to not even get to.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That point, right, No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They didn't have to go into extra kicks. Yes, their
goalie took an extra kick. Listen there took it and
she made hers She was the sixth attempt in coming in.
She had done enough.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Tell you what kick was, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The kick was hard enough, Yeah, to make her not
be able to handle it and put it in goal.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
Fair.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
There was not even a chance where Meghan Rapino or
Sophia Smith allowed it to even get on a goal.
These hands to ricochet into the goal. And that's the
point of it is the first three kicks were good.
They're up.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They have hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
If it's tennis, they have an advantage because Sweden missed
a goal where Pino Missus completely opens the door for Sweden.
They then miss another opportunity for the US. Sophia Smith
makes it. It's over there on to the round of eight.
She doesn't make it. It's a choke job. And that's
that's the point of it. And that goes back to
the point of when we're talking about this team, there's
a way that you, I think should talk about it
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if you're going to talk about them, like the Lakers,
like the Yankees, like the Cleveland Brown Salis Cowboys, whoever.
And they choked. They had the opportunity to win, even
with everything that had gone on in the past. They
were in a position and had a moment and couldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, and it sucks because because of what's happened in
the past, people were waiting, you know, in the shadows
for this to happen so that they could come out
and attack the women's national team. But in reality, it's
like it's hard to defend them because of how bad
they choked.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, all played very badly and you didn't need to
get you couldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You should have scored. I don't understand why we didn't
make more changes in this game.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
They had opportunities.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If there's loyalty to these players, you could have used
young fresh legs.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I just come down to the point of, hey, when
you have that opportunity to close it out.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You got to do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
You got it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Do you have two time defending champion, You've got to
do it. You've got to do it.
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PAC twelve is no more. To dissect that and so
much more, are good buddy from Fox Sports. College football
analyst and host of the Number one Show, RJ Bell
(17:18):
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hello, RJ. How
are you taking in all this realignment stuff that we
got going on?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
Uh? Dan, dude, I'm doing well, Like I'm really enjoying
the chaos. Driving chaos reminds me of being in grad
school twelve years ago covering Oklahoma checks to the PAC twelve,
and that feels like eons ago. Hey, we thought PAC
twelve was going to be a super conferenent, and look
at the Big twelve coming through and look at the
big King getting margin.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, I find it interesting because you are enjoying this.
I know Colin Cowherd on this network has said that
he is he can't wait for some of the Big
ten games to see. But I don't see a lot
of happiness around even from teams that are making the move.
Arizona State comments coming out of that athletic Department that
then I want to go to Morgantown. Utah seemed reluctant
to join the Big Twelve, but ends up doing so.
(18:05):
Why is everyone unhappy? Is it just because of tradition
or is there something more that I.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
May be missing?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Tradition, regionality, the nationalization of the sport. I might even
say the federation of the sport, the consolidation of the sport. Look,
this has always been coming since the nc DOUBLEA split
the college football divisions into Double A and one A. Right,
we're seeing this nineteen seventy eight. We saw it again
nineteen eighty four when Oklahoma and Georgia sued the NCUBA
(18:34):
for the right to play on national television. People conveniently
forgot about that, and the formation of the Big Twelve
Conference comes largely as a television asset. There was the
Southwest Conference, there was a Big Eight. Hey, what happens
if you guys get Texas to play in Nebraka every
single year? Oklahoma to play in Nebraka every year? Keep
Ou Texan, keep Texas techa A and M back when
that is a big deal. Hey, don't you think more
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people would like to see those games on a national
landscape yet. But when it gets down two dollars and cents, Hey,
we're talking about how the university markets itself. We're talking
about how the university brings in new students. Ultimately, how
the university funds itself. In football has always been a
tip of axpere. So I understand why some people are
upset about tradition and history going away. But let's not
(19:16):
be coy about this, fellas. It's a five billion dollar
industry college football. You're going to try to keep up
with the arms rate, and if you're not, you're probably
not going to be playing much on national TV. You're
not playing much on national TV, You're going to see
your revenue go down. You see your revenue go down.
We're talking about impacting university in a very real way.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Our J Young, college football analyst for Fox Sports, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hit them up on
x at RJ Underscore Young still getting used to all
of it, RJ. I worry about certain schools, and it's
not worrying about Colorado. It's not worrying about Arizona. It's
not worrying about Oregon and Washington. I worry about Illinois.
(19:56):
Worry about Iowa State, these schools and none not specific,
but I think you know where I'm getting. We're talking
about middle, the middle of the current conferences, middle of
the Big Ten, middle of the of the Big twelve.
And now you've got some new dogs coming in, and
you got a lot of new dogs coming in into
the Big twelve. There's a lot of room, like somebody's
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gonna be taking steps down. The pecking order is coming down.
Oregon and Washington are not coming in as number seventeen
and eighteen, just like USC and UCLA aren't coming in
at fifteen and sixteen. They're coming in at four, five, six,
and seven. However, you want to look at it in
the Big ten, what do you think has to happen?
Or can these middle schools end up surviving? Or are
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we going to just get to a point in college
football where it's about thirty to forty schools and that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I would even say it's thriving. I wouldn't even say
that they're surviving. You're gonna make thirty one point seven
million dollars as a Big twelve member if you're a
Iowa state, right, is that gonna be way more than say,
boyd you say absolutely, do you want to be in
the same category as those seams? Know you don't. You're
in a big time conference, playing big time football, and
frankly a conference has got more respect than I thought
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it was going to get with Oklahoma Texas on the
way out, Texas Christian played National title game. Guys, yeah
without a I win ship. All right, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I'm with you there are Jay, I am with you there.
On the Big Twelve, I think they've actually been more
successful than the ACC has been. I'll take out Clemson's
great run, and I mean at least the Big Twelve
has had multiple teams, you know, with that sort of success.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Yes, absolutely, and I think they're going to have opportunities
for that level of success because you're in the Big Twelve.
That's my point with Texas Christians. Do they play in
the National Championship Game if they are not a Big
twelve member? No? We know this because they went thirteen
to zero and twenty ten stopped out in a row
Bowl and this said, oh man, you mean we don't
get to play for the whole damn thing. I think
everybody gets the same opportunity to get beat down by
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Georgia as anybody else. I'm for that for the expansion
of the twelve team playoffs, which really curious how this
is going to impact that because those six automatic DIDs
go up and smoke with the disillusion of the Pac twelve,
or maybe the disillusion of packed, we'll down to the
pack four. Now, maybe they'll be able to pull a
rabbit out of the hat and not onlike the Big twelve.
Did I understand what you mean though, when you're saying
I feel these smaller schools are impacted. But then I'll
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give you another one. Nebraska ain't been relevant in two
thousand and nine. They're doing just fine. You don't really
care about what's going and what's lock. Yet when pre
wh plays football, they're doing just fine. Oh my god,
Rutters has never been ever in one hundred and fifty
years have they ever been relevant? I think they played
in two games with two hole games in one hundred
and fifty years, and they're doing just fine. No. I
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understand why people are upset, But if you want to
be in a big time conference, you have to do
it now, and you got to You gotta strike while
people still want you to. The Colorado point right one
in eleven school people all of a sudden want them.
Why because their market value has never been higher.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
R J.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Young joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monsublanio.
So I'm Dan Byer and for Doug Gottlieb. You ever
hear the phrase once a cheater, always a cheater. That's here.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's so much.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, the person cheats once, they're always going to
be a cheater. I don't know if that's true or not,
but I do know this Oregon State, cal Stanford, Washington
State left out in the cold. That's why I bring
up the other schools because you know, for as great
as the Iowa States and the Illinois and the Indianas
and the you know, Rutgers even for that matter, may
(23:22):
be doing, there is also a point that we know
that they're not Ohio State, that they're not Alabama, that
they're not Georgia. And I just wonder at what point
do then, all of a sudden those schools start to say, huh,
you know, maybe we don't need these others, Maybe we
don't need to be sharing some of them. Maybe we
figure out our own way. That would be the that
would be the thing that I would be worried about
(23:43):
if I was one of those those middle schools to
say like, hey, look, they were fine to do it
to Oregon State and cal and the the other squads.
What would make us any different that that would just
be my warning son, and why it would be biting
my nails if I'm one of those middle of the
road conference schools and in heck the do you see
Big ten.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Or the Big twelve?
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I hear that, to which I say, roll up your
sleeves and get to work. I saw Brigham Young basically
being independent. Right for the most part, right, I see
Notre Dame fans. This doesn't affect us at all because
we understand how to navigate in this landscape as an independent.
I don't really have a whole lot of patience for
anybody that is saying, oh woe is me? Nobody watched us.
They might always try to go behind their back. Yeah,
(24:25):
it's business, it's capitalism. It is what we do in
the United States. I don't understand why this is new
to other people. I'm not here to take care of
the smaller schools. Smaller school take care of itself. Central
Quorida great example. Nobody cared about them as a football
entity twenty years ago. They've built a football program from
nothing and they ran the table undefeated twenty seventeen. And
(24:47):
for all that effort, they're planning a big time conference
right now with an opportunity to go into not just
the National championship game, but to grow their revenue because
they went to work. Go to work investing your football programs.
That's what people care about. That's where I think Oregon State,
cal Stanford need to really focus, right, Washington State, put
(25:07):
it back into yourself. If you're looking around, you know
what it is. At least people are telling what they
think about you to your faith.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
How you know how to r Jay Young joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, college football analysts for Fox Sports.
All Right, so we know it's Arizona, Arizona State, and
Utah in addition to the Colorado edition that we knew
going to the Big Twelve. Of those four, who benefits
the most, Who's going to thrive the most in the
Big Twelve?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Do you believe?
Speaker 7 (25:31):
You know, it's really interesting as a thought experiment because
you know very much so that I'm in on Colorado,
which you say, I'm coach Prime, Right, I'm in on
coach Prime. That's why I'm in on Colorado. Let's not
put one before the others. The other thing I thought
was interesting here is you talked to two time definie
PAC twelve champs and Utah has owned USC. Right, I'm
(25:51):
looking at them going, you know, they probably sneak up
and win this conference and nobody looks around. But one
of the reasons I wonder if the pactful misstep is
if Michigan beat Ohio State and back to back games,
we were crowned in the National champions same thing for
Ohio State. By the way, given what Michigan has done,
that Utah go beat up on the Heisman Trophy winner
and perhaps the best recruiter and developer of quarterbacks this
(26:14):
side of Ryan Day, and we basically acted like it
was nothing. That says everything to me. I think Utah
needs to actually popstyle a little bit and crow and
they can benefit quite a bit from a commissioner who
understands the value of marketing and will market the hell
out of the Utah use.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's funny because wasn't that the thought that Oregon had
with USC and UCLA gone that this that could have
been their conference, Like at a point in time if
the Pac twelve was going to survive. Yet we forget
the success that Utah has had. It's interesting that you
point that out, because I think you know, USC didn't
(26:51):
want Oregon to join the Big Ten, and I think
there was there was a there was a faction of
Oregon fans that thought, and maybe even those within the
athletic department that thought, all right, now this is our
conference now that USC and UCLA are out of the way,
when maybe it was Utah's.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
And the whole point.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Also gets back to what I've been talking about in
as far as how you need to change your personality,
how people talk about you. Utah with a Mountain West
school before it was a packed twelve school. Oregon has
been a packed twelve school since nineteen seventy eight. Right,
they feel like they've been long enough doing something. Even
though Dan, you and I both know Oregon wouldn't worth
the damn until Joey Harrington got there in two thousand
(27:29):
and two, we didn't care, right, So the idea that
Oregon believes that they can own anything comes from we've
been here the longest, and that's what we're talking about.
We're talking about how long people have been a part
of something and how they don't want to see that
go away. But Oregon washingteams wouldn't want a word over
a conference where they're geting paid less, now, would they?
And that's the reason they make a make a move
to the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Last one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And it's the conference that I don't think that I've
mentioned except maybe to say that they weren't as good
as the Big twelve the a SEC. What happens now?
We've heard serious rumblings out of Tallahassee. You know, should
should that conference be worried or do you think that
is the SEC silent something to worry about? What do
you think about the future of the ACC at this point?
(28:11):
And could we see something similar happen in that conference?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I'm going to answer the last part of your question first. Yes,
I think we could see something similar happening in that conference.
And I also know that Greg, thank You've been really
great about keeping things up his sleeve and underneath a cup,
because nobody knew, oh you were Texas was happening until
ou and Texas happened. So if there's something to be
done now, we won't know about it till it's done.
It are the SEC the Florida State making loud noises
(28:36):
is also about money, right, That's what this comes back to.
Florida State is looking at what the big ten schools
are going to get paid, the big twelve schools might
get paid, and the SEC is going to get paid. State. Well,
we're porter state, We wait, we should be getting this.
But they fign this deal to feel part of the AEC.
They're part of the ACC. I think it's interesting that
Cleinson didn't make it any allowed noises. But I'm also
(28:57):
looking hearing that Talent Stanford are taking phone calls from
the ACC, which by the way, is not a bad ad.
But if you can get those two schools into your conference,
do you get to renegotiate your deal? Probably not, but
it also makes you stronger in the future when these
deals open back up. I think you're right as far
as what we were talking about to start the segment,
(29:17):
and we might be down to fifty or sixty schools
because I'm keeping count here, I think there are about
forty two schools we give a damn about each and
every year, and those last six or seven kind of
change hands depending on Good Houston, Cincinnati, so over so on.
But you're right, I think we're going to get to
another division of football because people are not going to
be able to keep up with the Jones, and the
Jones largely make up ReConference or four conferences now ACC
(29:41):
Big twelve, Big Ten, and of course the SEC.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He's our Jay Young, host of the Number one Show
and Fox Sports College Football and USFL analyst.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Had to put that in there. R J love talking
to you. I can't wait you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
We can talk about games and teams in the upcoming season,
but this is what dominates now. Have a good rest
of the summer and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I appreciate you. Dan, have a good Monday.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
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(30:35):
over what Taylor Swift song and how many she's monte Blanios.
I'm Dan by her in for Doug Gottlieb today here
on Fox Sports Radio. You wanted every get back and
I know they're not getting this on the podcast. You
wanted every get back song to be Taylor show.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I did, I did? I mean, get me going, get
me started. I've been listening to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Jason's throwing out B sides like John, can you find
hold on a second?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hold on, Dan? I got a car on that wasn't
that a That's.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
A great song. Come on because Dan wants to shake it.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I don't like that song as much. But you didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
John Robis didn't know the song that Jason was talking
about right away, correct.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Away once I played it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Okay, Sorry, John, I'm the old idiot here. Let's play
a game.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
This is game time. The dog got lad show.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No hate from me and maybe ignorance, but there is
no hate from me when it comes to h Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
All right, Yes, she's a g.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I thought, John said, ps and he was going to
add a note to that, and then I realized he said, yes,
it's something to add.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
John, all right, what do you got? What have we
got today?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
What are we playing today?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
John?
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Big deal, little deal, no.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Deal, that's what we're gonna play. Dan, So big deal,
little deal, no deal, leonells. That's it.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
That's that's the creazy, that's the comment. That is it.
I you know, Doug.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Doug will readily admit that he was wrong in his
analysis of Steph Curry, and it pops up on social
media from time and again. I think that could be
my messy is that I still remember and Kevin Wyertt
was at the news desk and he's like, breaking news,
Messi's going to Miami. And I said in the chair
that I'm sitting, when is the MLS gonna get guys
(32:28):
who are actually in their prime? Like I was totally
downplaying it, And now in what four matches in he's.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's it's it's child's play for him. Here the level
of deal, by the way, it's a huge deal. And
I said that from the beginning. I was like, he's
going to change MLS. And I remember you saying that that.
You're like, oh, he's old, and it's like, no, the
level of play is obviously, you know, less than it
is overseas in Europe.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So this is child's play for MESSI.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
There are things like when when it's Latan Eber he
came over.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
And played for the l A, I can't say that
name good job when he did.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
He was doing things as well that you had not
seen in the m L last like his first match
he's kicking for like thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yes, but it's the fact that it's a legend still delivering.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know what I mean, I'm going to get a jersey.
I've already decided.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Sure, Sure, John Rams, you want to make a point
about message.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I think your point. Monty has a good point about
its child's play. And I think the reason why it's
child's play is because even half a Messy is better
than anybody else in the m L as right, So
I'm not sure that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The way he finishes.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Did you see his.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
His goal last night?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Yeah, I was kidding in the corner like if I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Threw a ball, I couldn't get it in that corner.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I tried, he couldn't get What I think is the
last thing and why it is a huge deal. Is
I think that there's gonna be a point in the
m L last that we have known teams, we have
known squads, but they.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Don't have like true brands.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, yeah, I think we've seen that with a change
with when Chievas went away and LA f C ends
up taking their spot. La f C is not more
popular than the Galaxy. They are and there is there
is something natural about it. There was always something natural
about the Seattle Sounders as well. I think Inner Miami
becomes the lakers of the m L.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I not think it cauld come.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know, the team that people want to play for,
and that's what I think he's going to do. In
addition to him saying thanks but no thanks to Saudi
Arabia and the money that they were offering coming over here,
I think you could see others follow and see what
he has done. So in that way, I am also wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, big deal, all right, big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
The Angels have lost six.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
In a row.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Let's let's go to let's go to the other side
of the glass.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Angels in a row.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's a little deal because they have a little chance
to make the playoffs, right.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
And by the way.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
So just to go on record again, two weeks ago,
Doug Gottlieb agreed to a bet where if the Angels
make the postseason, then we pay for a card detail
of his, and if the Angels do not make the postseason,
then he buys us pizza.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
That isn't he agreed to that, And.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
I want to be on record again because he's I
could already tell he's trying to get out of it.
He's the buddy who like loses a bet. And it
was like, oh, I thought we were joking. I know
I was serious. He's trying to pull one of those.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You make com buy that pizza, you make it well, and.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You're coming in that you love the Angels. I give
him credit for at least going for it.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I know it's easy to say. As the Dodger fan,
you can dislike them, but as a neutral party, I
like that they tried to do something and tried to
make something happen, and to see it dissolve. Literally, the
trade deadline was a week ago and it's already gone.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Yeah, that's sad.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It is sad. It is sad. Big deal, little deal,
no deal that I'm going to Taylor Swinton.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
The price tag, the price tag.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
No, I took it a loan, guys, it's fine, it's fine.
I took out a loan for it. We're good.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Didn't dance is paying you extra for today? That's why exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That's I'm gonna pay off this loan that I had
to take out and go seat Taste Swich.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But to work with me, they give her combat pay.
They do here at Fox Sports Radio. It is Yeah,
it is different when you have to work for me. You,
by the way, are like the nineteenth person at Fox
Sports already that has gone.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Ryan Berschinger's gone multiple times. Oh, Harmon was there on Friday, Monks.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Didn't Ryan take alum?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Sure, maybe that's why Harmon's been working with me for
his combat pay. That's game time, game this is game
time on the duck MONTI. The only thing I asked
that when you go to Taylor Swift tonight, just don't
go in your own homemade shirt. Okay, That's the only
thing that I ask Tim Anderson got the worst of
(36:45):
its Saturday boy, did he?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
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I understand, I understand time zones, but I'm going to
use the Pacific time zone because that's where we are
located here at Fox Sports Radio. Ganys, do that were
you at two am are on Sunday morning? Did you
stay up? Did you get up to watch the US Women's.
Speaker 5 (00:54):
National I did not make it.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I tried. I tried.
Speaker 5 (00:58):
John Ramos, you awake at two.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
I was awake, but then I realized I couldn't stay up,
so I was only in for like thirty minutes and
how to bet.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
And Jason Stewart two am or for you on Sunday morning. No,
I was not.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
If I lived in Denver all morning, I would just
be like three am. I must be alone for the
entire first hour of the match. That's what I would
have been singing. And then in the Pacific time zone,
if I was up at that specific point, I would
have sang it in the second half. But I did
because of the Sunday morning show that I do with
Mike Carmen. Was up early enough to see the conclusion
(01:31):
of the scoreless draw then on the penalty kicks, and
there was so much to talk about, not only about
this team, but I think Manci one of the things
that we are moving past very quickly, and it's part
of the conversation, and it's a conversation that Doug has
had on the show, and it started at the beginning
of this World Cup of the point of if you're
(01:54):
going to analyze this US women's national team the way
that we analyze the Cleveland Browns or the Los Angelesvikers
or the New York Yankees, you gotta have some thick
skin because there is heat that comes with it, and
what came with Sunday Manzi, I think is an absolute
choke job by the US women's national team as they
(02:16):
were bouncing the round of sixteen against Sweden. We talk
about so many different angles, we just haven't talked about
the fact that they had an opportunity to win this match,
to right their wrongs from the group play, and couldn't
get it done when they needed it the most.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, all of their matches weren't pretty, and you
could argue that Sunday's match was probably the prettiest out
of all the ones that they had played, and it
still wasn't great.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It still did not live up to the expectation that
everybody had.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And I agree you have to have thick skin if
you are in this position, because it is still a privilege.
It is You're very lucky to be in this position
where you're expected to possibly win three in a row.
Nobody's ever done that. It is a privilege, and you
have to have thick skin. But the hate, the criticism
is on a different level.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I think that there are there are reasons for that,
and I think there's strictly you know, there political lines
are drawn. Yes, I do feel that it has been
heavier because, uh, frankly because they are women, right, and
then that that's the heat has been heavier on that
(03:24):
squad for some of the things that have been said,
by the way, not by all players, certain players have
said just like, you know, I saw a clip you know,
recently of the national anthem during one of them, and
they were pointing out, like who was singing and who
wasn't singing. When I go to a sporting event, I
don't sing the national anthem. I should take my cap
off and I put my hand on my heart or
do what I normally do. But I'm not singing word
(03:45):
for word, and here someone's pointing out eight of the
ten players that were lined up to not sing. I
just I feel that it's elevated because they are women,
not necessarily because of what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I'm glad you said that, And it wasn't me that
had to say that, because I was this entire tournament.
They've been criticized because again, they did not come out
the way everybody was expecting from the get go. And
I remember talking to a few of my friends about this,
and I was like man seeing how much they are
being negatively talked about when I never seen this on
(04:16):
the men's side, who haven't won and haven't done anything,
and yet the way that they are really being torn
apart is.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
A different level. And I think you're right. There are layers,
there are factors, and one of them is that there
are women. Because when have you ever heard, Oh, these
guys aren't singing the national anthem?
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Never?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Never, That's never been a thing. Didn't that's so set.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I didn't even realize, honestly, that they do that at
the beginning of the matches, Like I thought, maybe, you know,
for an opening ceremony when you're brought out like the
athletes at an Olympics are brought out when you win
the medal, you know, you obviously on the podium. But
I didn't even realize that prior to the matches that
they had they were doing that. I'm sure I'd seen
(05:01):
in another World Cups and just forgot it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And they do it in other sports, you know, especially
like I can already see Lebron James as the camera's
going by him really slowly when they're singing the national
anthem in the NBA, you.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Know, like they didn't do that.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But never has anyone really sat down and counted who's
singing and who's not.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I can't remember anybody ever pointing out whether an NBA
player did or didn't. I do find an interesting and
relishing in the defeat as it were. You know, Doug
had said on this show that he felt that it
would be good for the attention and women soccer for
them to essentially lose. Am I give that right, Jason,
just of maybe a reset or John Doug saying like,
(05:40):
you know, maybe maybe the team needs to bounce back
from something like the two thousand and four US men's
basketball team did, like they needed they needed something.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
To get right.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was that was That's exactly
what just was Doug's message. And sometimes when you're when
you're winning two and three World Cups in a row,
it can get a little old and monotonous.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah, And I'm.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Sure they came in thinking that they were going to
handle it, you know, I'm sure that was part of
the problem that you thought this was in the bag,
that maybe you were going to have a couple of
tough matches. But I'm sure mentally, they thought they were
going to handle this and that was part of the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
You know, we talk about the NBA, and this is
where I think is a good comparison. Let's take Lebron
for an example, with the Cleveland Cavaliers. I want to
do it with the Lakers. I want to do with
the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland Cavaliers years back, you could go
through a regular season and kind of sleep walk a
little bit, but you were going to get into the bracket.
And if you're filling out your bracket in the East,
(06:36):
what team were you putting in the NBA finals? What
are the Cleveland Cavaliers?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
So, the United States, because of the pedigree and winning
the previous World Cups that they have, despite the poor showing,
still coming in with the number one ranking, that if
they get to the round of sixteen, which they needed
the scoreless draw even against Portugal, even that wasn't good
enough in some eyes because you're saying it's a must
win game when really they needed to tie that game
(07:01):
for their own sake, and they did, but still you
get into the bracket. I think that Sweden probably was
like crap, we got to face the US, Like there's there.
They even thought, and I think we thought, all right,
maybe this is the opportunity for the US to turn
it around now that the playoffs have started. And I
know think you use the term playoffs in the World Cup,
but I'm using it in the Cavaliers example here of
(07:24):
you would be betting on the Cavaliers to make their
run to the NBA finals because they've got Lebron, they're
in the playoffs. The regular season maybe doesn't matter. And
that's what makes yesterday so big and why I'm frankly
shocked to hear that we haven't heard more about this
team choking in the biggest moment. And choking is such
a heavy word. I was even spelling it out yesterday
(07:46):
with Mike Harmon because I couldn't say it Monzie like
it was a way, because it is. It is a heavy,
heavy accusation to put on a team. But the US
was three for three at the start of their round
of the penalty kicks, the essentially, as we come to
find out, needed one of the last two to go.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And this is Megan Rapino.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Misses badly, awful, badly.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Hasn't missed a penalty kick since twenty eighteen and that
five years she has not missed on a penalty kick,
and she missed. And then Sophia Smith comes up and
the close up and I feel I mean, when they
put her face on the screen, the look of the
weight of the moment was there. You can see it
(08:30):
like I'm sorry, Like if you were watching on TV,
if you were watching on Fox, you could see the
weight of the moment. And again what happens, missus badly
absolutely misses. And the choke is a keyword here and
it's a heavy word. And think of all the moments.
Do you any choking moments that you guys remember big
(08:52):
moments in sports where someone choked? John Ramos, is there
is there one for you that stands out where you're
just like that guy didn't get done in the clutch,
one was choking. Jason Stewart, Manzi Belanos, any of you
have a moment where you feel like somebody just choked
in the moment.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Scott Norwood, right?
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Uh not?
Speaker 9 (09:09):
Score?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Would not Scorewood?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yes, perfect example, Buffalo Bills kicker, Yeah, John, did you
have one?
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Was it the Knicks guy?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
John Stars? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, yeah, couldn't make a field goal, couldn't at the
broad side of a barn.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I wouldn't say this as a choke, but recently Marcus
Smart missing that open three pointer for the Celtics in
the playoffs sure like not choke, But man, you should
have made that.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I go back to Cody Parky, the scapegoat for the
Chicago Bears and Matt Nagy's main enemy, improving why they
didn't win their playoff game with the Philadelphia Eagles. You
know why because Cody Parky choked in missing a forty
three hard field goal in the middle of winter in
downtown Chicago on the shores of Lake Michigan. When is
(09:58):
the football that he kicked, by the way, didn't hit
just one part of the upright, it also hit the crossbar.
And the reason I'm bringing this up, and this is
why numbers will tell you that the US women's national
team choked Cody Parky's kick in that game. Again, he
is now the most recent poster child of someone who
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choked in a big moment NFC Wild Card game playoffs
on the line his kick. When the ball usually hits
the upright, it will either go left or right, and
in this case, left would have been no good, right
would have been good. Most kicks when they hit the upright,
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fall into the goal and it's good.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
The luck.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
The luck was so bad for Cody Parky that not
only did his football hit the upright and fall to
the right place, but it just happened to fall on
the crossbar, which then knocked it out. But yet we
blamed Cody Parky because guess what, they didn't make the
field goal in that point. You want to talk about
bad luck, that is bad luck. I'm a golf person.
(11:06):
Jean van Develt nineteen ninety nine Open Championship, three shot
lead on the final hole, ends up scoring a triple bogie.
There was awful luck for Jean van Develt in that scenario.
Cody Parky from forty three yards out again in Chicago
in the dead of winter in a playoff game. Since
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two thousand, there was the stat that I found sixty
three point two percent of kicks from forty to fifty
yards in Soldier Field kicking that direction were made. It's
the lowest percentage of any stadium in the National Football
League in kicking towards any direction. You could go to
Sofi Stadium, you could go to lambeau Field, you could
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go to at and t Stadium.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
You could go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
There was no worse direction to kick in the NFL
than kicking North in Chicago. That's what Cody Parky was doing.
You want to know what else Cody Parkey when he
kicked this forty three yard attempt.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Seventy seven percent.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of field goals from two thousand and nine to twenty
nineteen were made from forty three yards, so twenty three
percent missing. The reason I'm bringing this up and I
feel that this is so crucial, stats were taken top
level scoring World Cup, FA Cup International competitions. Eighty five
percent of penalties taken at that level were scored. So
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Cody Parky is seventy seven percent chance when the when
the when the conditions are ripe and you're in the
right you're in the right spot, really sixty three percent.
In reality, there was an eighty five percent chance that
the US had an opportunity to make that kick. Eleven
percent of the fifteen percent that were not made were
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saved by the goalie. So you're talking this small window
of missing the goal entirely, and the US did it
not once, not twice, three times.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And battling Yeah, and then speaking of bad luck, could
you say that it was bad luck because the penalty
kick that did go in for Sweden had to even
be looked at with var and it was a milli leader,
a milli leader that it crossed the line, you know,
So is that can we also say it was unlucky?
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'll tell you what, or is it still a choke job?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I I the there was a point where the United
States had an opportunity to not even get to.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
That point, right, No, you're right.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
They didn't have to go into extra kicks. Yes, their
goalie took an extra kick. Listen there took it and
she made hers She was the sixth attempt in coming in.
She had done enough.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Tell you what kick was, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The kick was hard enough, Yeah, to make her not
be able to handle it and put it in goal.
Speaker 9 (13:53):
Fair.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
There was not even a chance where Meghan Rapino or
Sophia Smith allowed it to even get on a goal.
These hands to ricochet into the goal. And that's the
point of it is the first three kicks were good.
They're up.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They have hmm.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
If it's tennis, they have an advantage because Sweden missed
a goal where Pino Missus completely opens the door for Sweden.
They then miss another opportunity for the US. Sophia Smith
makes it. It's over there on to the round of eight.
She doesn't make it. It's a choke job. And that's
that's the point of it. And that goes back to
the point of when we're talking about this team, there's
a way that you, I think should talk about it
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if you're going to talk about them, like the Lakers,
like the Yankees, like the Cleveland Brown Salis Cowboys, whoever.
And they choked. They had the opportunity to win, even
with everything that had gone on in the past. They
were in a position and had a moment and couldn't
do it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, and it sucks because because of what's happened in
the past, people were waiting, you know, in the shadows
for this to happen so that they could come out
and attack the women's national team. But in reality, it's
like it's hard to defend them because of how bad
they choked.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, all played very badly and you didn't need to
get you couldn't.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You should have scored. I don't understand why we didn't
make more changes in this game.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
They had opportunities.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
If there's loyalty to these players, you could have used
young fresh legs.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I just come down to the point of, hey, when
you have that opportunity to close it out.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
You got to do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
You got it.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Do you have two time defending champion, You've got to
do it. You've got to do it.
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PAC twelve is no more. To dissect that and so
much more, are good buddy from Fox Sports. College football
analyst and host of the Number one Show, RJ Bell
(17:18):
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hello, RJ. How
are you taking in all this realignment stuff that we
got going on?
Speaker 7 (17:26):
Uh? Dan, dude, I'm doing well, Like I'm really enjoying
the chaos. Driving chaos reminds me of being in grad
school twelve years ago covering Oklahoma checks to the PAC twelve,
and that feels like eons ago. Hey, we thought PAC
twelve was going to be a super conferenent, and look
at the Big twelve coming through and look at the
big King getting margin.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know, I find it interesting because you are enjoying this.
I know Colin Cowherd on this network has said that
he is he can't wait for some of the Big
ten games to see. But I don't see a lot
of happiness around even from teams that are making the move.
Arizona State comments coming out of that athletic Department that
then I want to go to Morgantown. Utah seemed reluctant
to join the Big Twelve, but ends up doing so.
(18:05):
Why is everyone unhappy? Is it just because of tradition
or is there something more that I.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
May be missing?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Tradition, regionality, the nationalization of the sport. I might even
say the federation of the sport, the consolidation of the sport. Look,
this has always been coming since the nc DOUBLEA split
the college football divisions into Double A and one A. Right,
we're seeing this nineteen seventy eight. We saw it again
nineteen eighty four when Oklahoma and Georgia sued the NCUBA
(18:34):
for the right to play on national television. People conveniently
forgot about that, and the formation of the Big Twelve
Conference comes largely as a television asset. There was the
Southwest Conference, there was a Big Eight. Hey, what happens
if you guys get Texas to play in Nebraka every
single year? Oklahoma to play in Nebraka every year? Keep
Ou Texan, keep Texas techa A and M back when
that is a big deal. Hey, don't you think more
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people would like to see those games on a national
landscape yet. But when it gets down two dollars and cents, Hey,
we're talking about how the university markets itself. We're talking
about how the university brings in new students. Ultimately, how
the university funds itself. In football has always been a
tip of axpere. So I understand why some people are
upset about tradition and history going away. But let's not
(19:16):
be coy about this, fellas. It's a five billion dollar
industry college football. You're going to try to keep up
with the arms rate, and if you're not, you're probably
not going to be playing much on national TV. You're
not playing much on national TV, You're going to see
your revenue go down. You see your revenue go down.
We're talking about impacting university in a very real way.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Our J Young, college football analyst for Fox Sports, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Hit them up on
x at RJ Underscore Young still getting used to all
of it, RJ. I worry about certain schools, and it's
not worrying about Colorado. It's not worrying about Arizona. It's
not worrying about Oregon and Washington. I worry about Illinois.
(19:56):
Worry about Iowa State, these schools and none not specific,
but I think you know where I'm getting. We're talking
about middle, the middle of the current conferences, middle of
the Big Ten, middle of the of the Big twelve.
And now you've got some new dogs coming in, and
you got a lot of new dogs coming in into
the Big twelve. There's a lot of room, like somebody's
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gonna be taking steps down. The pecking order is coming down.
Oregon and Washington are not coming in as number seventeen
and eighteen, just like USC and UCLA aren't coming in
at fifteen and sixteen. They're coming in at four, five, six,
and seven. However, you want to look at it in
the Big ten, what do you think has to happen?
Or can these middle schools end up surviving? Or are
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we going to just get to a point in college
football where it's about thirty to forty schools and that's it.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
I would even say it's thriving. I wouldn't even say
that they're surviving. You're gonna make thirty one point seven
million dollars as a Big twelve member if you're a
Iowa state, right, is that gonna be way more than say,
boyd you say absolutely, do you want to be in
the same category as those seams? Know you don't. You're
in a big time conference, playing big time football, and
frankly a conference has got more respect than I thought
(21:07):
it was going to get with Oklahoma Texas on the
way out, Texas Christian played National title game. Guys, yeah
without a I win ship. All right, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I'm with you there are Jay, I am with you there.
On the Big Twelve, I think they've actually been more
successful than the ACC has been. I'll take out Clemson's
great run, and I mean at least the Big Twelve
has had multiple teams, you know, with that sort of success.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Yes, absolutely, and I think they're going to have opportunities
for that level of success because you're in the Big Twelve.
That's my point with Texas Christians. Do they play in
the National Championship Game if they are not a Big
twelve member? No? We know this because they went thirteen
to zero and twenty ten stopped out in a row
Bowl and this said, oh man, you mean we don't
get to play for the whole damn thing. I think
everybody gets the same opportunity to get beat down by
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Georgia as anybody else. I'm for that for the expansion
of the twelve team playoffs, which really curious how this
is going to impact that because those six automatic DIDs
go up and smoke with the disillusion of the Pac twelve,
or maybe the disillusion of packed, we'll down to the
pack four. Now, maybe they'll be able to pull a
rabbit out of the hat and not onlike the Big twelve.
Did I understand what you mean though, when you're saying
I feel these smaller schools are impacted. But then I'll
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give you another one. Nebraska ain't been relevant in two
thousand and nine. They're doing just fine. You don't really
care about what's going and what's lock. Yet when pre
wh plays football, they're doing just fine. Oh my god,
Rutters has never been ever in one hundred and fifty
years have they ever been relevant? I think they played
in two games with two hole games in one hundred
and fifty years, and they're doing just fine. No. I
(22:36):
understand why people are upset, But if you want to
be in a big time conference, you have to do
it now, and you got to You gotta strike while
people still want you to. The Colorado point right one
in eleven school people all of a sudden want them.
Why because their market value has never been higher.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
R J.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Young joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monsublanio.
So I'm Dan Byer and for Doug Gottlieb. You ever
hear the phrase once a cheater, always a cheater. That's here.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It's so much.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, the person cheats once, they're always going to
be a cheater. I don't know if that's true or not,
but I do know this Oregon State, cal Stanford, Washington
State left out in the cold. That's why I bring
up the other schools because you know, for as great
as the Iowa States and the Illinois and the Indianas
and the you know, Rutgers even for that matter, may
(23:22):
be doing, there is also a point that we know
that they're not Ohio State, that they're not Alabama, that
they're not Georgia. And I just wonder at what point
do then, all of a sudden those schools start to say, huh,
you know, maybe we don't need these others, Maybe we
don't need to be sharing some of them. Maybe we
figure out our own way. That would be the that
would be the thing that I would be worried about
(23:43):
if I was one of those those middle schools to
say like, hey, look, they were fine to do it
to Oregon State and cal and the the other squads.
What would make us any different that that would just
be my warning son, and why it would be biting
my nails if I'm one of those middle of the
road conference schools and in heck the do you see
Big ten.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Or the Big twelve?
Speaker 7 (24:02):
I hear that, to which I say, roll up your
sleeves and get to work. I saw Brigham Young basically
being independent. Right for the most part, right, I see
Notre Dame fans. This doesn't affect us at all because
we understand how to navigate in this landscape as an independent.
I don't really have a whole lot of patience for
anybody that is saying, oh woe is me? Nobody watched us.
They might always try to go behind their back. Yeah,
(24:25):
it's business, it's capitalism. It is what we do in
the United States. I don't understand why this is new
to other people. I'm not here to take care of
the smaller schools. Smaller school take care of itself. Central
Quorida great example. Nobody cared about them as a football
entity twenty years ago. They've built a football program from
nothing and they ran the table undefeated twenty seventeen. And
(24:47):
for all that effort, they're planning a big time conference
right now with an opportunity to go into not just
the National championship game, but to grow their revenue because
they went to work. Go to work investing your football programs.
That's what people care about. That's where I think Oregon State,
cal Stanford need to really focus, right, Washington State, put
(25:07):
it back into yourself. If you're looking around, you know
what it is. At least people are telling what they
think about you to your faith.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
How you know how to r Jay Young joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio, college football analysts for Fox Sports.
All Right, so we know it's Arizona, Arizona State, and
Utah in addition to the Colorado edition that we knew
going to the Big Twelve. Of those four, who benefits
the most, Who's going to thrive the most in the
Big Twelve?
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Do you believe?
Speaker 7 (25:31):
You know, it's really interesting as a thought experiment because
you know very much so that I'm in on Colorado,
which you say, I'm coach Prime, Right, I'm in on
coach Prime. That's why I'm in on Colorado. Let's not
put one before the others. The other thing I thought
was interesting here is you talked to two time definie
PAC twelve champs and Utah has owned USC. Right, I'm
(25:51):
looking at them going, you know, they probably sneak up
and win this conference and nobody looks around. But one
of the reasons I wonder if the pactful misstep is
if Michigan beat Ohio State and back to back games,
we were crowned in the National champions same thing for
Ohio State. By the way, given what Michigan has done,
that Utah go beat up on the Heisman Trophy winner
and perhaps the best recruiter and developer of quarterbacks this
(26:14):
side of Ryan Day, and we basically acted like it
was nothing. That says everything to me. I think Utah
needs to actually popstyle a little bit and crow and
they can benefit quite a bit from a commissioner who
understands the value of marketing and will market the hell
out of the Utah use.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
It's funny because wasn't that the thought that Oregon had
with USC and UCLA gone that this that could have
been their conference, Like at a point in time if
the Pac twelve was going to survive. Yet we forget
the success that Utah has had. It's interesting that you
point that out, because I think you know, USC didn't
(26:51):
want Oregon to join the Big Ten, and I think
there was there was a there was a faction of
Oregon fans that thought, and maybe even those within the
athletic department that thought, all right, now this is our
conference now that USC and UCLA are out of the way,
when maybe it was Utah's.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
And the whole point.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Also gets back to what I've been talking about in
as far as how you need to change your personality,
how people talk about you. Utah with a Mountain West
school before it was a packed twelve school. Oregon has
been a packed twelve school since nineteen seventy eight. Right,
they feel like they've been long enough doing something. Even
though Dan, you and I both know Oregon wouldn't worth
the damn until Joey Harrington got there in two thousand
(27:29):
and two, we didn't care, right, So the idea that
Oregon believes that they can own anything comes from we've
been here the longest, and that's what we're talking about.
We're talking about how long people have been a part
of something and how they don't want to see that
go away. But Oregon washingteams wouldn't want a word over
a conference where they're geting paid less, now, would they?
And that's the reason they make a make a move
to the Big ten.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Last one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And it's the conference that I don't think that I've
mentioned except maybe to say that they weren't as good
as the Big twelve the a SEC. What happens now?
We've heard serious rumblings out of Tallahassee. You know, should
should that conference be worried or do you think that
is the SEC silent something to worry about? What do
you think about the future of the ACC at this point?
(28:11):
And could we see something similar happen in that conference?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I'm going to answer the last part of your question first. Yes,
I think we could see something similar happening in that conference.
And I also know that Greg, thank You've been really
great about keeping things up his sleeve and underneath a cup,
because nobody knew, oh you were Texas was happening until
ou and Texas happened. So if there's something to be
done now, we won't know about it till it's done.
It are the SEC the Florida State making loud noises
(28:36):
is also about money, right, That's what this comes back to.
Florida State is looking at what the big ten schools
are going to get paid, the big twelve schools might
get paid, and the SEC is going to get paid. State. Well,
we're porter state, We wait, we should be getting this.
But they fign this deal to feel part of the AEC.
They're part of the ACC. I think it's interesting that
Cleinson didn't make it any allowed noises. But I'm also
(28:57):
looking hearing that Talent Stanford are taking phone calls from
the ACC, which by the way, is not a bad ad.
But if you can get those two schools into your conference,
do you get to renegotiate your deal? Probably not, but
it also makes you stronger in the future when these
deals open back up. I think you're right as far
as what we were talking about to start the segment,
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and we might be down to fifty or sixty schools
because I'm keeping count here, I think there are about
forty two schools we give a damn about each and
every year, and those last six or seven kind of
change hands depending on Good Houston, Cincinnati, so over so on.
But you're right, I think we're going to get to
another division of football because people are not going to
be able to keep up with the Jones, and the
Jones largely make up ReConference or four conferences now ACC
(29:41):
Big twelve, Big Ten, and of course the SEC.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
He's our Jay Young, host of the Number one Show
and Fox Sports College Football and USFL analyst.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Had to put that in there. R J love talking
to you. I can't wait you.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
We can talk about games and teams in the upcoming season,
but this is what dominates now. Have a good rest
of the summer and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I appreciate you. Dan, have a good Monday.
Speaker 9 (30:04):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
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over what Taylor Swift song and how many she's monte Blanios.
I'm Dan by her in for Doug Gottlieb today here
on Fox Sports Radio. You wanted every get back and
I know they're not getting this on the podcast. You
wanted every get back song to be Taylor show.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I did, I did? I mean, get me going, get
me started. I've been listening to Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Jason's throwing out B sides like John, can you find
hold on a second?
Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hold on, Dan? I got a car on that wasn't
that a That's.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
A great song. Come on because Dan wants to shake it.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I don't like that song as much. But you didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
John Robis didn't know the song that Jason was talking
about right away, correct.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Away once I played it.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Okay, Sorry, John, I'm the old idiot here. Let's play
a game.
Speaker 9 (31:23):
This is game time. The dog got lad show.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
No hate from me and maybe ignorance, but there is
no hate from me when it comes to h Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
All right, Yes, she's a g.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I thought, John said, ps and he was going to
add a note to that, and then I realized he said, yes,
it's something to add.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
John, all right, what do you got? What have we
got today?
Speaker 4 (31:51):
What are we playing today?
Speaker 5 (31:52):
John?
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Big deal, little deal, no.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Deal, that's what we're gonna play. Dan, So big deal,
little deal, no deal, leonells. That's it.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
That's that's the creazy, that's the comment. That is it.
I you know, Doug.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Doug will readily admit that he was wrong in his
analysis of Steph Curry, and it pops up on social
media from time and again. I think that could be
my messy is that I still remember and Kevin Wyertt
was at the news desk and he's like, breaking news,
Messi's going to Miami. And I said in the chair
that I'm sitting, when is the MLS gonna get guys
(32:28):
who are actually in their prime? Like I was totally
downplaying it, And now in what four matches in he's.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's it's it's child's play for him. Here the level
of deal, by the way, it's a huge deal. And
I said that from the beginning. I was like, he's
going to change MLS. And I remember you saying that that.
You're like, oh, he's old, and it's like, no, the
level of play is obviously, you know, less than it
is overseas in Europe.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So this is child's play for MESSI.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
There are things like when when it's Latan Eber he
came over.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
And played for the l A, I can't say that
name good job when he did.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
He was doing things as well that you had not
seen in the m L last like his first match
he's kicking for like thirty yards.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yes, but it's the fact that it's a legend still delivering.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know what I mean, I'm going to get a jersey.
I've already decided.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Sure, Sure, John Rams, you want to make a point
about message.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I think your point. Monty has a good point about
its child's play. And I think the reason why it's
child's play is because even half a Messy is better
than anybody else in the m L as right, So
I'm not sure that's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The way he finishes.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Did you see his.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
His goal last night?
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Yeah, I was kidding in the corner like if I.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Threw a ball, I couldn't get it in that corner.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I tried, he couldn't get What I think is the
last thing and why it is a huge deal. Is
I think that there's gonna be a point in the
m L last that we have known teams, we have
known squads, but they.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Don't have like true brands.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Okay, yeah, I think we've seen that with a change
with when Chievas went away and LA f C ends
up taking their spot. La f C is not more
popular than the Galaxy. They are and there is there
is something natural about it. There was always something natural
about the Seattle Sounders as well. I think Inner Miami
becomes the lakers of the m L.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
I not think it cauld come.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You know, the team that people want to play for,
and that's what I think he's going to do. In
addition to him saying thanks but no thanks to Saudi
Arabia and the money that they were offering coming over here,
I think you could see others follow and see what
he has done. So in that way, I am also wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, big deal, all right, big deal, little deal, no deal.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
The Angels have lost six.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
In a row.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Let's let's go to let's go to the other side
of the glass.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Angels in a row.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It's a little deal because they have a little chance
to make the playoffs, right.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
And by the way.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
So just to go on record again, two weeks ago,
Doug Gottlieb agreed to a bet where if the Angels
make the postseason, then we pay for a card detail
of his, and if the Angels do not make the postseason,
then he buys us pizza.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
That isn't he agreed to that, And.
Speaker 8 (35:11):
I want to be on record again because he's I
could already tell he's trying to get out of it.
He's the buddy who like loses a bet. And it
was like, oh, I thought we were joking. I know
I was serious. He's trying to pull one of those.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You make com buy that pizza, you make it well, and.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You're coming in that you love the Angels. I give
him credit for at least going for it.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I know it's easy to say. As the Dodger fan,
you can dislike them, but as a neutral party, I
like that they tried to do something and tried to
make something happen, and to see it dissolve. Literally, the
trade deadline was a week ago and it's already gone.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
Yeah, that's sad.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
It is sad. It is sad. Big deal, little deal,
no deal that I'm going to Taylor Swinton.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
The price tag, the price tag.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
No, I took it a loan, guys, it's fine, it's fine.
I took out a loan for it. We're good.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Didn't dance is paying you extra for today? That's why exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
That's I'm gonna pay off this loan that I had
to take out and go seat Taste Swich.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
But to work with me, they give her combat pay.
They do here at Fox Sports Radio. It is Yeah,
it is different when you have to work for me. You,
by the way, are like the nineteenth person at Fox
Sports already that has gone.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Ryan Berschinger's gone multiple times. Oh, Harmon was there on Friday, Monks.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Didn't Ryan take alum?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Sure, maybe that's why Harmon's been working with me for
his combat pay. That's game time, game this is game
time on the duck MONTI. The only thing I asked
that when you go to Taylor Swift tonight, just don't
go in your own homemade shirt. Okay, That's the only
thing that I ask Tim Anderson got the worst of
(36:45):
its Saturday boy, did he?
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Ever? That's next year at Fox Sports Radio.
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