August 8, 2023 • 38 mins
Dan and Rich talk about why the ACC looks very desperate as they have reportedly considered brining Stanford and Cal into their conference. The guys talk about popular music bands who know to play the hits. Dan and Rich respond to a report about Chargers' head coach Brandon Staley. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes the guys through a Tuesday edition of "The Press".
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on the East coast, Rich Hoornberger, and it extends all
the way to us here on the West coast. The
signs of desperation by one conference in the world of
college athletics, and that sign of desperation is on the
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heels of all these moves that we have seen over
the last week or so, even the last couple of
weeks to throw Colorado into the mix. The Atlantic Coast
Conference has reportedly had preliminary talks about the possibility. And
I know there's nothing definite. I used three words that
don't mean definite, but if at least had maybe early
(01:24):
conversations on the possibility of adding cal and Stanford to
the league again, the ACC on the Atlantic Coast is
said to look into the possibility of adding two schools
that are basically on the shores of the Pacific Ocean.
I know they're not technically right on the coast Rich,
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but they're close enough in the Bay Area with Calan Stanford,
and to me, it just reeks of absolute desperation, but
also really shows what is happening in the world of
college realignment and what I feel like we are getting
so wrapped up into the demise of the pac twelve
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and the additions of the Big twelve that we are
also just completely forgetting the fact that any of the
schools that are not currently in the Big ten or
SEC would jump to one of those two leagues in
a matter of seconds. And it just feels like the
ACC is desperate, knowing that the clock may be ticking
on them, that this would be some sort of hail Mary.
(02:25):
And I just don't see how a hail Mary and
bringing in the ninth and tenth most wanted schools from
a conference that likely will no longer exist does anything
to add value or to stave off what is your
ultimate outcome?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well, listen, I think this gets really simple when we
start thinking about or think about the question why, but
also answering that question, why would the ACC.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Be interested in Collen Stanford.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Why would it make sense for them to target schools
that would force their universities that actually participate in sports
into a logistic nightmare on an annual basis.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Why?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, the answer is because they have a conference commissioner,
and these executives don't want to lose their jobs like that.
Very simply put, do the conferences necessarily do what's best
for the schools?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Sometimes, But sometimes the conferences do what's best for the
executives who run these conferences. And and here's what I
mean by that, Like George Klievekoff, he's the PAC twelve
commissioner for however long there is a PAC twelve remaining
he's going to do what's good for the schools until
his job is threatened, and then he's going to do
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what's good for him.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Because at this point.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
If if George Klievekoff was being perfectly honest, as soon
as Washington and Oregon announced that they were going to
leave the PAC twelve, what's best for the rest of
the schools is Okay, guys, we're going to tear up
these contracts, and you guys are all allowed to leave
the conference and go join whatever conference you can because
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ours is losing strength by the day.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But that's not what happened. What's happening.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
All of these schools are going to be indebted to
each other and potentially to the Commissioner's office in some
way as they're leaving the conference.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Same thing with the ACC.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The reason why this smacks of such desperation is because
the executives of the ACC are singing their sirens song
to these university presidents and the athletic directors that life
is going to get really bad for them if they
don't hold strong, stay together as a unit, and go
find some fertile ground out west to abscond to it.
(04:46):
Some new teams that just became available or have interest
in their conference. And I bet you the way that
he's talking about Stanford and callus look, even though their
athletic programs haven't been great ten polls of the PAC twelve.
Look at the from Stanford and the facilities over at Cow.
These are you know, high class universities, you know, And
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so let's bring him into the fold. Meanwhile, he's just
trying to justify his position as commissioner. I to me,
part of this is the desperation of these these conferences
and these teams to hold together, and some of it
is executives executing things with self interest in mind.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I find it in what you're saying and looking at
it this way. I'll compare it to this. You go
to a grocery store. I'm just gonna say, twelve pack
a mountain dew. I have been known to purchase one or two, okay,
and there's only one left. But guess what it's kind
of got. You know, it's kind of dinged up in
the bottom corner. Do you look at it as like,
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you know, I'm not going to touch that. That's damaged goods.
There's a reason why it's the last one here that
nobody has come in here and purchased this twelve pack,
or do you look at it as like, man, am
I lucky I got the last Mountain Utes two pack?
And and more times than not, I'm like, you know,
I'll let somebody else take the last one, unless I'm
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in desperate need, I will, you know, I'll take it.
Baby formula, perfect example, that's even better than a than
a twelve pack of Mountain Dew. Obviously, with baby formula,
if there was something damaged, I wouldn't touch it. But
if I were to grab the last one, I would think,
oh my goodness, save the day.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now you know what it's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's gonna be hold me over for another day. But
if they don't have a shipment of baby formula for
the next five days, I'm gonna be up a creek.
And that's what I kind of feel like this is,
is they're reaching out. If Callen Stanford were so such
great ads, they would be going to the Big ten,
they would have been gone to the Big twelve already.
But they're not. And that's why that's why I think
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the ACC and I think that you're right in the
aspect of of what your Commissioner and the Commission' Jim
Phillips of the ACC. What they need to focus on
is they really need to focus on taking care of
Florida State right now. Like, if you have any hope
of trying to keep your league together and not turn
into the Pac twelve, you've got to take care of
that school. You've got to take care of Clemson. And
(07:13):
I think both the SEC and Big Tenner sitting they're
salivating over the possibility of what it would like to
add North Carolina to their league. Oh yeah, you know,
And so that's where I think the focus needs to be.
And to even have this story out there, I don't
even know who it benefits.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, this had to be sourced from Callen Stanford. That's
the only thing I could think of is that those
two together have basically created a little bit of an alliance,
like as if this is survivor and they're the last
two stuck on this island with Oregon State and Washington
State and they're looking at each other like, buddy, we
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got to pair up strengthen numbers here, which conference do
you want to try to call on? And maybe there
was interest from the ACC, but the only reason why
this goes public. The only way this is helped full
two one side, it would be to callan Stanford just
in case I don't know, the Big twelve all of
a sudden goes no no, no, no, no, not so fast,
We're actually very interested. Or if the big ten comes
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over the top and says, whoao, ACC, pumpy Brakes, we
want to offer them a better deal. But outside of that,
it doesn't help the ACC. Because if you're Clempton or
you're Florida State and all of a sudden, you're getting
the news that your football team or basketball team has
to fly all the way across the country, not once,
(08:31):
but potentially twice a year to play against the Bears
or the Cardinal. Yeah no thanks, like no thanks, Nobody's
nobody's gonna be The interest in those games is gonna
be relatively zero. So yeah, I'm with you. I think
that this this is desperation on multiple sides. And I
(08:52):
loved your two comparisons or analogies looking at this from
the baby formula or the or the Mountain do standpoint.
How about something that everybody's experienced. Nobody, nobody is ever
going to look at newspaper as an appropriate supplement for
toilet paper. But guess what desperate times call for desperate measures.
(09:14):
And every once in a while you got you gotta
look up Talent Stanford and figure out what their number
is in the phone book and maybe put a phone
call in.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Those weekly shoppers that are thrown in my driveway. Yes,
not conducive to the skin. I think the other dirty
little secret in all of this is for as great
as the Big twelve comes out. In all of this, again,
every single school in that league would leave for the
Big ten or the SEC.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In a heart beat, Yes, and a heart beat.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And so while they like and they deserve kudos for
being proactive for staying alive, and that's where your survivor
point comes in, where it brings out, But I also
think that there's an aspect of survivor where, you know,
if you watch the tea, which I do, so I
understand there's a point where, yeah, if you're a tribe
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of seven strong, at some point, four, five, six and
seven aren't going to be happy because of the power one,
two and three have. So then what do four, five,
six and seven do together that can allow them to
get over on one, two and three. That's something that
I think you could see play out in college sports
and honestly could end up maybe going in reverse action
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if it gets that way, if it's too big with
the Big ten and SEC like. That's the other conversation
I just wonder, and I think people maybe fear that
we're close to being a thirty school college football season
because of just servicing the halves of the Alabama's, the Georgia's,
the Clemsons, the USC's, the Ohio states as opposed to
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the have nots.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
If I'm James Phillips, who's the commissioner of the ACC
right now, instead of being on the phone wasting my
time with caller Stanford as potential additions to my conference,
what I'm doing is I'm wearing out the phones of
all the other university presidents, chair people, as members of
this board in this conference and saying, look, what we
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need to do right now is we need to cut
a better deal for Clemson in Florida State. What we
need to do right now if we all want to
remain in this conference together, unless we all want to
separate and do what the PAC twelve did, we need
to find a way to appease them.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And so if that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Means a little bit bigger of a cut of the pie,
will so be it? Because it was it was looking
fine when USC and UCLA were holding strong in the
PAC twelve. As soon as they announced that they were
leaving that conference, there were people immediately speculating, well, that's
the end of the PAC twelve. And I remember thinking
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to myself, well, no, because you know these other ten teams,
they'll add a team here or there, and it's going
to be fine.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sure enough, a year later, look what's happened. What's happening.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, all you need, all it takes is is flint
or tinder and flame. I mean, this thing could go
a blaze in a heartbeat. So I would be working
on these other university president's athletic directors, influential people within
the ACC if I'm this commissioner and I'm making sure
they understand that we need to give Clemson and Florida
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State a bigger taste, otherwise we're gonna lose them and
potentially lose the conference altogether.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I've tried to find winners in all of this. And
you're connected to the San Diego State program. You are
the analyst for their radio broadcast for the football program.
Do they feel like they dodged one? Do they feel
in no man's land? I mean still in the Mountain West.
What is happening with that school right now?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Well, if you think about it, for them, nothing's changed.
You know, They've well, a lot's changed. They have a
brand new stadium. It's a state of the art facility
out there and Mission Valley a part of San Diego
that you can get to from anywhere. So they've got
a new stadium. They've got a basketball team that just
played for a national championship. They have a football team
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that over the past decade has been really good against
Pac twelve opponents, by the way, which is a big
reason why a lot of people thought they might join
that conference, along with the basketball team having so much success.
So nothing, really, honestly, nothing's changed for them now. I'm
sure if they had their druthers, if you talk to
any of the people in the athletic program honestly and
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you asked them, what do you wish would have happened, Well,
obviously what you wish would have happened is all these
teams stayed put in the Pac twelve. They were able
to negotiate a large broadcast contract with some network and
they were welcomed into the conference. That would have probably
been the easiest geological and logistic checker space to jump.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But since this has all fallen.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Apart, yeah, I bet you there are people who are
breathing a sigh of relief that weeks ago, when it
is being discussed nationally that San Diego State might join
the PAC twelve that that didn't actually happen, because look
where the PAC twelve is right now. They went from
the PAC twelve to the PAC ten, to the four
pack to the TUPAC.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So yeah, have it, oh man, and then that would
be the return of TUPAC that we've been waiting for, yeah,
for like twenty seven years. Wazoo and Oregon State, Well,
he's rich Ardberger. I'm Dan Bayer. I do feel bad
for those schools though as well, And I feel bad
for certain schools that have no idea that they're going
to be caught up in some of this where they
think everything is AOK right now, But I just don't
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think it's I don't think things are trending that way
for those schools. So those that are maybe unassuming right
now and feel that everything is good I feel bad
for them because I don't think everything is going to
be good. Get Rich on social media, hit them up
on Twitter or X as we now call it, at Ornberger.
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
Doug gollib Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer.
He's Rich Orenberger, the NFL vets. What a show it was. Gosh,
almost twenty nine years ago, Rich, is when I saw
the Rockin' Ario Speedwagon rocking Central Wisconsin. What a show
it was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
What a show.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I've never seen them live. I have no idea what
that would be like. Good for you man, and it was.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was just it was hit after hit after hit
after hit after hits.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I really respect the band who doesn't get bored of
pleasing their audience, like, yeah, we want to hear the
change of pace every once in a while, so we
know it's time to hit the bathroom or you know,
go to the bar. At the venue you're listening to
the band ad so well as soon as they go
this is one off of our new album Wink. It means, hey,
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go fill up your Budweisers because we're about to bring
the house down with one of our classics.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I appreciate that too.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But the bands that you go to see and they
refuse to play any of their old great tracks, that bugs.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That bugs the dog out of me.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Man John and Rich and Dan. They have one of
the best album titles ever. The album is called you
Can't Tune a Piano, But you Can Tune a Fish.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It's one of their albums, is that right?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
A wagon, Yeah, one of the not not the album
of this High Fidelity is what that song's off of.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
But great table was that? Was that like early Ario.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Piano? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Was that early nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, yes, they've been together top speed.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Wagon as we are.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That was in the second That was that was Ario
go kart.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right though, you're right right.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I got their driver's license.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I just saw the Eagles documentary this past weekend and
Randy Meisner, who recently passed away rip I guess he
wanted to stop singing his big song, take It to
the Limit, right, Oh my man. He and Glenn Frye
almost got into a punching match because Randy's like, I
don't want to do that song anymore, and Glenn fry
specifically said to him, Randy, fans drive miles and they
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spend years to watch us for the first time. You
think I like playing? What's the uh? Take it easy?
You think I like playing? No, we do it for
that fan who comes out for the first time, and
you're gonna do that song. So you have to You
do have to appreciate a band that kind of knows
its place and knows what the hits are, as opposed
to the progressive band that doesn't acknowledge the old stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'll tell you right now. So I saw a C
d C. This was my rookie year with the Page.
It was two thousand and nine. All of a sudden,
I'm hearing this bang, this booming. I didn't know what
it was. I was in the locker room and I'm like,
what the heck is going on here? I was brand
new to New England. This was training camp, so I
didn't spend a lot of time in the locker room
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at that point. So I walk out into the tunnel
and I'm in a towel by the way, and I'm like, oh,
there's a concert going on. But then I run back inside,
I get dressed, and I come back out and I
walk through the tunnel, and you know, you get to
know some of the security guys, especially the ones who
work close to the locker room matress. I'm like, who's
playing out there? And the one dude was like, oh,
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it's ac DC. And I couldn't even hear him it.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Was so loud. I was like, what he goes, ac DC.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I go running out there, and as I hit the rail,
they get into Thunderstruck and they brought.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The house down.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Ac DC has probably played Thunderstruck a thousand times, ten
thousand times live. That was my first time seeing them
play it, and Angus was out there on the stage
shredding his accent.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It was.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It was one of the most meaningful, contragoing experiences of
my life.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I'm so glad that's Glenn Fry's take on it, like
you gotta give the fans what they want.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He should have just said, hey, take it easy, to
deal with it. The ac DC show. How many songs
do you have? Crowd participation though, so like that is
like I understand singing along, but of just of of
you know, dirty deeds, you know, everybody done darn j
(19:39):
like like you are you are just it is like
an active watching instead of just a passive sitting back
and listening to the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Because yeah, there's there's certain bands where their choruses are
anthems and you know ACDC with you Shook Me un
not long like that one when that hits everybody singing,
he doesn't. You don't need to have somebody singing that song.
The audience does it for you. I'm sure it was
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the same at Taylor Swift last night. I cannot wait
for our next update to just practice.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Was everybody talking like the ac DC john honest? Oh yes?
On the scale of one to ten, how is my
Brian Johnson impersonation?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
That was pretty good because you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's great. I don't know it's tougher banging your head
like Angus Young does or talking like Brian Johnson does?
I have no idea?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah, no, it's a it's a tie for the most
uncomfortable things you could do with your body.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Uh, there's there's drama in the AFC West that that's
where we are headed. I have to say one thing
otherwise I'm not going to get this in. We'll go
to Manti for an update, then we're going to talk
some football. I saw something yesterday I had never seen
in my sport life. Yeah, are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I saw a hole in one.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It was not me. It was not me in person,
in person, and it was not in a group that
I was playing. I wasn't even I wasn't even playing.
I was at the US Women's Amateur at bel Air
Country Club walking around and I was on the fifth hole.
There was a redesign was done a few years ago,
and so the course was different, and I'm like, you
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know what I really want to I want to take
a look at this course. I want to see how
things have changed. And I'm like, all right, let me
hang out this this par three here, and Ellie Zerich,
who plays collegiately at SMU and is from Canada, acet
the par three fifth hole from about one hundred and
twenty yards. Wow, it was even more amazing on I
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had never again, I had never been in the presence
of anybody in my group or me making one myself,
and I'd always wondered what the response would be, and
I was just watching someone. It was awesome. It was
so cool. It's one of those moments where you're legitimately
happy for someone, Like I think that is something that
is very very rare to do, to actually be happy
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for someone's accomplishment. But I thought, like, I was like, wow,
that is so awesome, and I'm glad that I got
to see it. And the other thing was there was
her group, two other players and their caddies, so there
were the six of them, and there were about four
other people around the hole, so like only nine or
ten of us saw it. It was really awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That is cool.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
That is yeah, and that's a great Like if you
were also playing golf that day, though, Like if you
weren't at the US Woman's Amateur, if you were, if
you were just like out at bel Air just having
the worst round of your life and then you you
were waiting for the group in front of you to hit, and.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
This woman hits a one hundred and twenty yard hole
in one, you would probably be cursing her name.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You'd be like, oh, yeah, great, so I'm gonna shoot
a ninety seven today, but she hits a hole in one.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I did ask her, I said, do you have five dollars?
I have to leave early, but I want my free
drink that you have to buy. I've got some bad
news for Brandon Staley. By the way, get Mancy on
X at Mancy Belano's right. Got any TikTok videos?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
I haven't done any.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, I don't like I don't like saying on X either.
John Ramos hates it. John and I have been talking though.
He kind of wants to start this new social media
format that's got like tweeting, and then you can add
pictures and videos so that you could do three. He
wants to call it triple X. But I don't think
that that is a great name.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I only go to triple X for the articles. Okay, yeah,
I'm just I'm not there for the pictures or videos.
I'm there for the text.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Is this, Johnny think? Is this is gonna be workshopped?
Do you think we get this off the ground?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Well, I actually want to add a fourth thing you
could do, so to have the four exes. But I
actually like three excesses.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, you know, I'll stick that
fits the personality profile John.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
There will be zero bots.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
On that site for surely, none whatsoever. All Right, I'm
gonna read a quote from an NFC exec that spoke
with the NFL reporter Matt Lombardio works for fan Buzz,
and the topic of conversation with coaches on the hot seat.
This is what was said about Chargers head coach Brandon
Staley by one unnamed NFC personnel executive quote. They're cheap,
(24:22):
so I don't think they want to actually fire him,
and he's a really nice guy. But Brandon Staley is
a really bad coach with a great roster. They just
paid that quarterback. And if they don't win, now, Justin
Herbert isn't getting any younger. It blows my mind that
they don't win. If Jerry Jones said Justin Herbert that
head coach would have been fired two years ago. Guaranteed.
(24:42):
What's the difference between Herbert and Troy Aikman. Nothing. In
my opinion, They're smart, accurate, big arm great guys and
leaders off the field. They should be rolling, but they
haven't been.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And it's tough to argue with I mean, it really
is look at Patrick Mahomes. He got linked up with
Andy Reid and it's like boom. I mean, it just works.
Sean McDermott I don't think gets enough credit for the
way he's been able to help raise a program in
(25:16):
the Buffalo Bills from bottom dwellers in the AFC East
to where they're at now. Josh Allen his development over time.
I know that we like to credit only Brian Dable,
but it takes a lot to just get out of
the way and allow your offensive coordinator to do that.
If that's what's happening, or what's happened, I should say,
(25:38):
in Buffalo and now we'll see what happens with Ken
Dorsey as that train keeps a moving. Yeah, I mean
the reality is Russell Wilson with Pete Carroll looked good.
Russell Wilson with Nathaniel Hackett looked bad. Maybe Russell Wilson's
all of a sudden awful. Maybe that's the story. Maybe
(25:58):
that's the case. We've seen it before. Some quarterbacks hit
ledges later in their career and then it's all over.
But we'll find out what Sean Payton, because he went
from Pete Carroll to Nathaniel Hackett. Now he'll have Sean Payton,
who is probably gonna be in the Hall of Fame
one day. So we'll see what coaching really means to
the quarterback position. And if it means a lot, then
(26:18):
it means that Brandon Staley is very bad at this
because justin Herbert is incredible. He is objectively an incredible
talent who just hasn't been able to win yet in
the league. You can make excuses like injury, you can
make excuses like, well, you know, sometimes the defense let
(26:40):
them down. But Brandon Staley was brought in as a
defensive coordinator from the Rams, like he was a guru
on that side of the ball, So hard to blame
the defense without blaming him directly. And then, oh, by
the way, he has one of the more talented quarterbacks
in the league who you've put in compromising positions at
times with some of the decision making on fourth downs
(27:03):
in the past. So I'm I kind of I kind
of see it through the same lens as this unnamed
the NFC general manager.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The only part that I disagreed with is I actually
think Jerry Jones, who has been very loyal to his
head coaches almost too loyal times, you know, and and
it's got him seb Yeah, Jacon, Garrett, Wade Phillips. Heck,
how many people wanted Mike McCarthy out, you know, after
one season or never thought they should have hired him
in the first place. And not only is he still there,
(27:32):
but now he's running the offense and he's gonna be
calling plays. So that's the only thing that I disagreed with.
But it is about Brandon Staley. But it also you
bring up Sean Payton, and I think is so interesting
is all of last season we had seen Sean Payton
do stuff for Fox, but we'd also seen him be
spotted at Charger games. I don't remember too many Rams
(27:54):
games that he was at. I don't know. It was
just interesting that he happened to be at the Chargers games.
But there are thought to be an interest from Peyton
to join the Chargers, and maybe they weren't gonna pay
him enough, and maybe they that was the reason. I
don't know, but Brandon Staley stayed. And I also wonder
rich if Sean Payton takes the Broncos job to kind
(28:16):
of get back at the Chargers, to be like all right,
you're not gonna hire me. Well, I'm gonna be in
your division and I'm gonna beat you. Because the camp
that Sean Payton is running sure seems to have a
little different feel than what he had done for so
long in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I don't recall what the early times were, but Peyton
has now come out and saying, hey, in our preseason game,
there's gonna be no TV interviews. You guys are wearing
your pads, you're wearing your jerseys, You're not wearing the
Gilliging hats. Like he is laying down the law, and
we saw him lay down the law with Russell Wilson.
We've seen this throughout camp. Put his foot in his
mouth maybe with Nathaniel Hackett. But there seems to be
(28:50):
like this edge to Sean Payton. And I wonder if
he's got an ax to grind with those Chargers because
he didn't get the job there. I feel that the
job that Sean Payton is doing right now in Denver
is taking a lot a lot of energy, and maybe
that could be part of the reason why he's so
invested in what's going on.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, if there's one thing that we all know it's
well studied. It's that Gilligan hats in the preseason equal
regular season losses.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We've seen that so many times.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So thank goodness he's rid Denver nation of that, or
Broncos nation of that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Scorge timely reference as well. I'm sure the players will
know exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, right, exactly right, and so many of them were
big fans of Marianne. The reality of the coaching business,
or really even free agency in the NFL is most
of the time money talks, you're gonna go to the
team that pays you the most money. And the reason
why that's a salient point to bring up here is
(29:48):
regardless of how talented Justin Herbert or how bright his
future is, the Denver Broncos were willing to pay Sean
Payton what he felt he was worth. And then also
on the other side of it, you got to remember
they had to trade New Orleans something to get his rights,
so there was that side of it too. But here's
(30:08):
the reality. On the other side of that coin, the
Chargers don't pay coaches. They don't look at their last
bunch of hires, Norv Turner into Mike McCoy into Anthony Lynn,
into Brandon Staley, all of them first time coaches, all
of them bargain basement opportunities there. I mean as soon
(30:31):
as coaches got expensive in Los Angeles or San Diego previously,
they got rid of them. I mean they fired Marty
Schottenheimer off of fourteen to two season for crying out loud.
I mean, so that is the reality of that ownership group.
They don't like to spend money, they don't have to
spend That's the reason why they are practically playing rent
(30:55):
free at SOFI Stadium and have yet to paid a
dime of their relocation because they can't and I don't
know if they ever will. That's the reality. So yeah,
Chargers fans are gonna be upset about this because they're
gonna miss the the They're gonna miss the boat on
all these hot coaching candidates that everybody wants, like as
(31:16):
Sean Payton when he was up for grabs. It's because
they're not going to be able to pay enough to
lure a big name coach there unless the owner decides
to change his approach, which he hasn't in over two decades.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
At this point.
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Yankee bench and here comes Boone and I would say
he either has or will be thrown out.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Oh they're really arguing, and Boone's now going to go
draw him draw on the plate where this strike zone is.
Aaron Boone is now showing making a line of where
the ball was, and then he just imitated, I'm sorry,
last boon strike.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Boone drew a line where the strike was called, which
is way off the plate, and then he gave the
the pump out sign that the umpire uses to throw
a guy out.
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Well, Boone won't be managing soon. He was just booted
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(33:10):
Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio Yankees Radio Network. With
that call, he's Rich Hornberger. I'm Dan Byer. Did it
get flashbacks? Hearing a little ac DC? Back to the
concert that told Gillette, Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
My goodness, the place was coming down.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Also, a lot of DC was played at Gillette Stadium
when I was in New England. In fact, Thunderstruck I
think it was our runout song at that time.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It was either that or maybe it was Ozzy it
was Crazy Train.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I can't remember one of those.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It was one of those too, but I know that
Thunderstruck got played a lot in the stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Sure, and Virginia, you know Virginia Tech has the enter
Sandman entrance. That is is like one of the best
in all of college football. I don't know who it
was done thunderstruck, and I do know growing up, packer
Struck was what they would try to do at lambeau Field.
And you would instead of thunder, you would chant packers.
This was in the early nineties. There's not a song
(34:07):
called packer Struck, but they just on the video board
they had packers whatever. They yelled thunder. All right, that's dumb.
It's true, but it's dumb. Let's get to the press,
the press lot, some of the headlines that we need
to know about today. What's going on Matzi?
Speaker 9 (34:23):
Well, guys, obviously finding Tom Brady's replacement wasn't gonna be easy.
In their first unofficial depth chart for training camp, the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers have listed Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trusk
as their QB one.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Jason Stewart. What's the line, what's the what's the line
that we we love to hear?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Isn't the the old line? If you have two quarterbacks,
you don't have one? And who said that?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I don't know who said that first. I don't know
where that came from. Who said that? But does anybody
know where that line came from?
Speaker 8 (34:58):
I do know that I've adopted did it for our
Bachelor podcast? That right now, Charity, she's got three guys,
and if you've got three guys, you don't have one.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's a good point.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
She's in love of three guys.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's so it's a it's a love cube, it's a
love Polly Hadron.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I don't know what to call that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't know either, and I'm trying to find out.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Who says John Madden said it?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It was John Madden, That's what I'm finding it was maybe, Yeah,
I wasn't I wasn't sure if.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, it was if you have two quarterbacks, you don't
have a quarterback. If you have three, you have an
episode of the Bachelorette exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Is it possible to be in love with three people
at one time?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I guess it can be.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh sure, Okay, it happens all the time. Yeah, yeah,
that's what love is all about. You love three people.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Polly amorous.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yes, I thought maybe John McKay said it, but I
have not heard any you know, anybody attribute that line
to him.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think it was Brian Johnson who said it first.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Hi guys, and it's annual franchise evaluation Sport it Go
has listened to Dallas Cowboys is the most valuable sports
franchise in the world at nine point two bi Leona.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Wow, what's crazy to think is the actual price Jerry
could get to be sold right, because it wouldn't be
nine point two, it would be north of that. Yes,
that's what blew my mind about that number was if
he ever wanted to sell it, what he could actually
get for it.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
It's incredible how much money that man is worth. And
the fact that he was still willing to do that.
Papa John's pizza ass Remember with two large top beza.
Remember that it's you and the Papa. You're gonna get
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's good. Rich.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I love me some Jerry Jones quotes, because guy will
hit you with, well, sometimes you're the rooster, sometimes you're
the fox in the henhouse.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You're just like, what the hell does that mean? Jerry's Well,
whatever it means, it's worth nine point two billion dollars. Yes.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Golden State Warriors were second seven point five six billion,
and the New York Yankees were third seven point one
to three billion.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Warriors more than the Yanks.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Yeah, I was shocked about that too. I was shocked
about that too.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Hard Knocks premiere tonight ten pm Eastern Time. Who's watching?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I am? I am watching. I just want to know.
Is it gonna be an Aaron Rodgers fest or is
it gonna go back to the recipe of trying to
find the young guys, you know, the unheralded guys that
make that program so good.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Oh no, this is gonna be a deep dive into
Robert sala as a head coach trying to find his path.
Or maybe it's gonna be Zach Wilson as he strives
to be who he needs to be now for of course,
it's gonna be an Aaron Rodgers fest. A.
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way tire buying should be. But we start this conversation
on the East coast, Rich Hoornberger, and it extends all
the way to us here on the West coast. The
signs of desperation by one conference in the world of
college athletics, and that sign of desperation is on the
(01:03):
heels of all these moves that we have seen over
the last week or so, even the last couple of
weeks to throw Colorado into the mix. The Atlantic Coast
Conference has reportedly had preliminary talks about the possibility. And
I know there's nothing definite. I used three words that
don't mean definite, but if at least had maybe early
(01:24):
conversations on the possibility of adding cal and Stanford to
the league again, the ACC on the Atlantic Coast is
said to look into the possibility of adding two schools
that are basically on the shores of the Pacific Ocean.
I know they're not technically right on the coast Rich,
(01:44):
but they're close enough in the Bay Area with Calan Stanford,
and to me, it just reeks of absolute desperation, but
also really shows what is happening in the world of
college realignment and what I feel like we are getting
so wrapped up into the demise of the pac twelve
(02:04):
and the additions of the Big twelve that we are
also just completely forgetting the fact that any of the
schools that are not currently in the Big ten or
SEC would jump to one of those two leagues in
a matter of seconds. And it just feels like the
ACC is desperate, knowing that the clock may be ticking
on them, that this would be some sort of hail Mary.
(02:25):
And I just don't see how a hail Mary and
bringing in the ninth and tenth most wanted schools from
a conference that likely will no longer exist does anything
to add value or to stave off what is your
ultimate outcome?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Well, listen, I think this gets really simple when we
start thinking about or think about the question why, but
also answering that question, why would the ACC.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Be interested in Collen Stanford.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Why would it make sense for them to target schools
that would force their universities that actually participate in sports
into a logistic nightmare on an annual basis.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Why?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Well, the answer is because they have a conference commissioner,
and these executives don't want to lose their jobs like that.
Very simply put, do the conferences necessarily do what's best
for the schools?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Sometimes, But sometimes the conferences do what's best for the
executives who run these conferences. And and here's what I
mean by that, Like George Klievekoff, he's the PAC twelve
commissioner for however long there is a PAC twelve remaining
he's going to do what's good for the schools until
his job is threatened, and then he's going to do
(03:45):
what's good for him.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Because at this point.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
If if George Klievekoff was being perfectly honest, as soon
as Washington and Oregon announced that they were going to
leave the PAC twelve, what's best for the rest of
the schools is Okay, guys, we're going to tear up
these contracts, and you guys are all allowed to leave
the conference and go join whatever conference you can because
(04:09):
ours is losing strength by the day.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
But that's not what happened. What's happening.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
All of these schools are going to be indebted to
each other and potentially to the Commissioner's office in some
way as they're leaving the conference.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Same thing with the ACC.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The reason why this smacks of such desperation is because
the executives of the ACC are singing their sirens song
to these university presidents and the athletic directors that life
is going to get really bad for them if they
don't hold strong, stay together as a unit, and go
find some fertile ground out west to abscond to it.
(04:46):
Some new teams that just became available or have interest
in their conference. And I bet you the way that
he's talking about Stanford and callus look, even though their
athletic programs haven't been great ten polls of the PAC twelve.
Look at the from Stanford and the facilities over at Cow.
These are you know, high class universities, you know, And
(05:06):
so let's bring him into the fold. Meanwhile, he's just
trying to justify his position as commissioner. I to me,
part of this is the desperation of these these conferences
and these teams to hold together, and some of it
is executives executing things with self interest in mind.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I find it in what you're saying and looking at
it this way. I'll compare it to this. You go
to a grocery store. I'm just gonna say, twelve pack
a mountain dew. I have been known to purchase one or two, okay,
and there's only one left. But guess what it's kind
of got. You know, it's kind of dinged up in
the bottom corner. Do you look at it as like,
(05:47):
you know, I'm not going to touch that. That's damaged goods.
There's a reason why it's the last one here that
nobody has come in here and purchased this twelve pack,
or do you look at it as like, man, am
I lucky I got the last Mountain Utes two pack?
And and more times than not, I'm like, you know,
I'll let somebody else take the last one, unless I'm
(06:09):
in desperate need, I will, you know, I'll take it.
Baby formula, perfect example, that's even better than a than
a twelve pack of Mountain Dew. Obviously, with baby formula,
if there was something damaged, I wouldn't touch it. But
if I were to grab the last one, I would think,
oh my goodness, save the day.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now you know what it's gonna do.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's gonna be hold me over for another day. But
if they don't have a shipment of baby formula for
the next five days, I'm gonna be up a creek.
And that's what I kind of feel like this is,
is they're reaching out. If Callen Stanford were so such
great ads, they would be going to the Big ten,
they would have been gone to the Big twelve already.
But they're not. And that's why that's why I think
(06:51):
the ACC and I think that you're right in the
aspect of of what your Commissioner and the Commission' Jim
Phillips of the ACC. What they need to focus on
is they really need to focus on taking care of
Florida State right now. Like, if you have any hope
of trying to keep your league together and not turn
into the Pac twelve, you've got to take care of
that school. You've got to take care of Clemson. And
(07:13):
I think both the SEC and Big Tenner sitting they're
salivating over the possibility of what it would like to
add North Carolina to their league. Oh yeah, you know,
And so that's where I think the focus needs to be.
And to even have this story out there, I don't
even know who it benefits.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, this had to be sourced from Callen Stanford. That's
the only thing I could think of is that those
two together have basically created a little bit of an alliance,
like as if this is survivor and they're the last
two stuck on this island with Oregon State and Washington
State and they're looking at each other like, buddy, we
(07:48):
got to pair up strengthen numbers here, which conference do
you want to try to call on? And maybe there
was interest from the ACC, but the only reason why
this goes public. The only way this is helped full
two one side, it would be to callan Stanford just
in case I don't know, the Big twelve all of
a sudden goes no no, no, no, no, not so fast,
We're actually very interested. Or if the big ten comes
(08:11):
over the top and says, whoao, ACC, pumpy Brakes, we
want to offer them a better deal. But outside of that,
it doesn't help the ACC. Because if you're Clempton or
you're Florida State and all of a sudden, you're getting
the news that your football team or basketball team has
to fly all the way across the country, not once,
(08:31):
but potentially twice a year to play against the Bears
or the Cardinal. Yeah no thanks, like no thanks, Nobody's
nobody's gonna be The interest in those games is gonna
be relatively zero. So yeah, I'm with you. I think
that this this is desperation on multiple sides. And I
(08:52):
loved your two comparisons or analogies looking at this from
the baby formula or the or the Mountain do standpoint.
How about something that everybody's experienced. Nobody, nobody is ever
going to look at newspaper as an appropriate supplement for
toilet paper. But guess what desperate times call for desperate measures.
(09:14):
And every once in a while you got you gotta
look up Talent Stanford and figure out what their number
is in the phone book and maybe put a phone
call in.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Those weekly shoppers that are thrown in my driveway. Yes,
not conducive to the skin. I think the other dirty
little secret in all of this is for as great
as the Big twelve comes out. In all of this, again,
every single school in that league would leave for the
Big ten or the SEC.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In a heart beat, Yes, and a heart beat.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And so while they like and they deserve kudos for
being proactive for staying alive, and that's where your survivor
point comes in, where it brings out, But I also
think that there's an aspect of survivor where, you know,
if you watch the tea, which I do, so I
understand there's a point where, yeah, if you're a tribe
(10:06):
of seven strong, at some point, four, five, six and
seven aren't going to be happy because of the power one,
two and three have. So then what do four, five,
six and seven do together that can allow them to
get over on one, two and three. That's something that
I think you could see play out in college sports
and honestly could end up maybe going in reverse action
(10:27):
if it gets that way, if it's too big with
the Big ten and SEC like. That's the other conversation
I just wonder, and I think people maybe fear that
we're close to being a thirty school college football season
because of just servicing the halves of the Alabama's, the Georgia's,
the Clemsons, the USC's, the Ohio states as opposed to
(10:49):
the have nots.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
If I'm James Phillips, who's the commissioner of the ACC
right now, instead of being on the phone wasting my
time with caller Stanford as potential additions to my conference,
what I'm doing is I'm wearing out the phones of
all the other university presidents, chair people, as members of
this board in this conference and saying, look, what we
(11:12):
need to do right now is we need to cut
a better deal for Clemson in Florida State. What we
need to do right now if we all want to
remain in this conference together, unless we all want to
separate and do what the PAC twelve did, we need
to find a way to appease them.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And so if that.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Means a little bit bigger of a cut of the pie,
will so be it? Because it was it was looking
fine when USC and UCLA were holding strong in the
PAC twelve. As soon as they announced that they were
leaving that conference, there were people immediately speculating, well, that's
the end of the PAC twelve. And I remember thinking
(11:48):
to myself, well, no, because you know these other ten teams,
they'll add a team here or there, and it's going
to be fine.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Sure enough, a year later, look what's happened. What's happening.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, all you need, all it takes is is flint
or tinder and flame. I mean, this thing could go
a blaze in a heartbeat. So I would be working
on these other university president's athletic directors, influential people within
the ACC if I'm this commissioner and I'm making sure
they understand that we need to give Clemson and Florida
(12:21):
State a bigger taste, otherwise we're gonna lose them and
potentially lose the conference altogether.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I've tried to find winners in all of this. And
you're connected to the San Diego State program. You are
the analyst for their radio broadcast for the football program.
Do they feel like they dodged one? Do they feel
in no man's land? I mean still in the Mountain West.
What is happening with that school right now?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Well, if you think about it, for them, nothing's changed.
You know, They've well, a lot's changed. They have a
brand new stadium. It's a state of the art facility
out there and Mission Valley a part of San Diego
that you can get to from anywhere. So they've got
a new stadium. They've got a basketball team that just
played for a national championship. They have a football team
(13:08):
that over the past decade has been really good against
Pac twelve opponents, by the way, which is a big
reason why a lot of people thought they might join
that conference, along with the basketball team having so much success.
So nothing, really, honestly, nothing's changed for them now. I'm
sure if they had their druthers, if you talk to
any of the people in the athletic program honestly and
(13:30):
you asked them, what do you wish would have happened, Well,
obviously what you wish would have happened is all these
teams stayed put in the Pac twelve. They were able
to negotiate a large broadcast contract with some network and
they were welcomed into the conference. That would have probably
been the easiest geological and logistic checker space to jump.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
But since this has all fallen.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Apart, yeah, I bet you there are people who are
breathing a sigh of relief that weeks ago, when it
is being discussed nationally that San Diego State might join
the PAC twelve that that didn't actually happen, because look
where the PAC twelve is right now. They went from
the PAC twelve to the PAC ten, to the four
pack to the TUPAC.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So yeah, have it, oh man, and then that would
be the return of TUPAC that we've been waiting for, yeah,
for like twenty seven years. Wazoo and Oregon State, Well,
he's rich Ardberger. I'm Dan Bayer. I do feel bad
for those schools though as well, And I feel bad
for certain schools that have no idea that they're going
to be caught up in some of this where they
think everything is AOK right now, But I just don't
(14:37):
think it's I don't think things are trending that way
for those schools. So those that are maybe unassuming right
now and feel that everything is good I feel bad
for them because I don't think everything is going to
be good. Get Rich on social media, hit them up
on Twitter or X as we now call it, at Ornberger.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox's We
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
Doug gollib Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer.
He's Rich Orenberger, the NFL vets. What a show it was. Gosh,
almost twenty nine years ago, Rich, is when I saw
the Rockin' Ario Speedwagon rocking Central Wisconsin. What a show
it was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
What a show.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I've never seen them live. I have no idea what
that would be like. Good for you man, and it was.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was just it was hit after hit after hit
after hit after hits.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I really respect the band who doesn't get bored of
pleasing their audience, like, yeah, we want to hear the
change of pace every once in a while, so we
know it's time to hit the bathroom or you know,
go to the bar. At the venue you're listening to
the band ad so well as soon as they go
this is one off of our new album Wink. It means, hey,
(16:06):
go fill up your Budweisers because we're about to bring
the house down with one of our classics.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I appreciate that too.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
But the bands that you go to see and they
refuse to play any of their old great tracks, that bugs.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
That bugs the dog out of me.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Man John and Rich and Dan. They have one of
the best album titles ever. The album is called you
Can't Tune a Piano, But you Can Tune a Fish.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
It's one of their albums, is that right?
Speaker 7 (16:37):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (16:38):
A wagon, Yeah, one of the not not the album
of this High Fidelity is what that song's off of.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
But great table was that? Was that like early Ario.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Piano? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Was that early nineteen seventy six?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, yes, they've been together top speed.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Wagon as we are.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That was in the second That was that was Ario
go kart.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Right though, you're right right.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I got their driver's license.
Speaker 8 (17:06):
I just saw the Eagles documentary this past weekend and
Randy Meisner, who recently passed away rip I guess he
wanted to stop singing his big song, take It to
the Limit, right, Oh my man. He and Glenn Frye
almost got into a punching match because Randy's like, I
don't want to do that song anymore, and Glenn fry
specifically said to him, Randy, fans drive miles and they
(17:30):
spend years to watch us for the first time. You
think I like playing? What's the uh? Take it easy?
You think I like playing? No, we do it for
that fan who comes out for the first time, and
you're gonna do that song. So you have to You
do have to appreciate a band that kind of knows
its place and knows what the hits are, as opposed
to the progressive band that doesn't acknowledge the old stuff.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I'll tell you right now. So I saw a C
d C. This was my rookie year with the Page.
It was two thousand and nine. All of a sudden,
I'm hearing this bang, this booming. I didn't know what
it was. I was in the locker room and I'm like,
what the heck is going on here? I was brand
new to New England. This was training camp, so I
didn't spend a lot of time in the locker room
(18:15):
at that point. So I walk out into the tunnel
and I'm in a towel by the way, and I'm like, oh,
there's a concert going on. But then I run back inside,
I get dressed, and I come back out and I
walk through the tunnel, and you know, you get to
know some of the security guys, especially the ones who
work close to the locker room matress. I'm like, who's
playing out there? And the one dude was like, oh,
(18:35):
it's ac DC. And I couldn't even hear him it.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Was so loud. I was like, what he goes, ac DC.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I go running out there, and as I hit the rail,
they get into Thunderstruck and they brought.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
The house down.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Ac DC has probably played Thunderstruck a thousand times, ten
thousand times live. That was my first time seeing them
play it, and Angus was out there on the stage
shredding his accent.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It was.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It was one of the most meaningful, contragoing experiences of
my life.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And you're absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I'm so glad that's Glenn Fry's take on it, like
you gotta give the fans what they want.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He should have just said, hey, take it easy, to
deal with it. The ac DC show. How many songs
do you have? Crowd participation though, so like that is
like I understand singing along, but of just of of
you know, dirty deeds, you know, everybody done darn j
(19:39):
like like you are you are just it is like
an active watching instead of just a passive sitting back
and listening to the movie.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Because yeah, there's there's certain bands where their choruses are
anthems and you know ACDC with you Shook Me un
not long like that one when that hits everybody singing,
he doesn't. You don't need to have somebody singing that song.
The audience does it for you. I'm sure it was
(20:06):
the same at Taylor Swift last night. I cannot wait
for our next update to just practice.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Was everybody talking like the ac DC john honest? Oh yes?
On the scale of one to ten, how is my
Brian Johnson impersonation?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
That was pretty good because you have to.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's great. I don't know it's tougher banging your head
like Angus Young does or talking like Brian Johnson does?
I have no idea?
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Yeah, no, it's a it's a tie for the most
uncomfortable things you could do with your body.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Uh, there's there's drama in the AFC West that that's
where we are headed. I have to say one thing
otherwise I'm not going to get this in. We'll go
to Manti for an update, then we're going to talk
some football. I saw something yesterday I had never seen
in my sport life. Yeah, are you ready for this?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I saw a hole in one.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
It was not me. It was not me in person,
in person, and it was not in a group that
I was playing. I wasn't even I wasn't even playing.
I was at the US Women's Amateur at bel Air
Country Club walking around and I was on the fifth hole.
There was a redesign was done a few years ago,
and so the course was different, and I'm like, you
(21:26):
know what I really want to I want to take
a look at this course. I want to see how
things have changed. And I'm like, all right, let me
hang out this this par three here, and Ellie Zerich,
who plays collegiately at SMU and is from Canada, acet
the par three fifth hole from about one hundred and
twenty yards. Wow, it was even more amazing on I
(21:48):
had never again, I had never been in the presence
of anybody in my group or me making one myself,
and I'd always wondered what the response would be, and
I was just watching someone. It was awesome. It was
so cool. It's one of those moments where you're legitimately
happy for someone, Like I think that is something that
is very very rare to do, to actually be happy
(22:08):
for someone's accomplishment. But I thought, like, I was like, wow,
that is so awesome, and I'm glad that I got
to see it. And the other thing was there was
her group, two other players and their caddies, so there
were the six of them, and there were about four
other people around the hole, so like only nine or
ten of us saw it. It was really awesome.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
That is cool.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
That is yeah, and that's a great Like if you
were also playing golf that day, though, Like if you
weren't at the US Woman's Amateur, if you were, if
you were just like out at bel Air just having
the worst round of your life and then you you
were waiting for the group in front of you to hit, and.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
This woman hits a one hundred and twenty yard hole
in one, you would probably be cursing her name.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You'd be like, oh, yeah, great, so I'm gonna shoot
a ninety seven today, but she hits a hole in one.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I did ask her, I said, do you have five dollars?
I have to leave early, but I want my free
drink that you have to buy. I've got some bad
news for Brandon Staley. By the way, get Mancy on
X at Mancy Belano's right. Got any TikTok videos?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
I haven't done any.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, I don't like I don't like saying on X either.
John Ramos hates it. John and I have been talking though.
He kind of wants to start this new social media
format that's got like tweeting, and then you can add
pictures and videos so that you could do three. He
wants to call it triple X. But I don't think
that that is a great name.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
I only go to triple X for the articles. Okay, yeah,
I'm just I'm not there for the pictures or videos.
I'm there for the text.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Is this, Johnny think? Is this is gonna be workshopped?
Do you think we get this off the ground?
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Well, I actually want to add a fourth thing you
could do, so to have the four exes. But I
actually like three excesses.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, you know, I'll stick that
fits the personality profile John.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
There will be zero bots.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
On that site for surely, none whatsoever. All Right, I'm
gonna read a quote from an NFC exec that spoke
with the NFL reporter Matt Lombardio works for fan Buzz,
and the topic of conversation with coaches on the hot seat.
This is what was said about Chargers head coach Brandon
Staley by one unnamed NFC personnel executive quote. They're cheap,
(24:22):
so I don't think they want to actually fire him,
and he's a really nice guy. But Brandon Staley is
a really bad coach with a great roster. They just
paid that quarterback. And if they don't win, now, Justin
Herbert isn't getting any younger. It blows my mind that
they don't win. If Jerry Jones said Justin Herbert that
head coach would have been fired two years ago. Guaranteed.
(24:42):
What's the difference between Herbert and Troy Aikman. Nothing. In
my opinion, They're smart, accurate, big arm great guys and
leaders off the field. They should be rolling, but they
haven't been.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
And it's tough to argue with I mean, it really
is look at Patrick Mahomes. He got linked up with
Andy Reid and it's like boom. I mean, it just works.
Sean McDermott I don't think gets enough credit for the
way he's been able to help raise a program in
(25:16):
the Buffalo Bills from bottom dwellers in the AFC East
to where they're at now. Josh Allen his development over time.
I know that we like to credit only Brian Dable,
but it takes a lot to just get out of
the way and allow your offensive coordinator to do that.
If that's what's happening, or what's happened, I should say,
(25:38):
in Buffalo and now we'll see what happens with Ken
Dorsey as that train keeps a moving. Yeah, I mean
the reality is Russell Wilson with Pete Carroll looked good.
Russell Wilson with Nathaniel Hackett looked bad. Maybe Russell Wilson's
all of a sudden awful. Maybe that's the story. Maybe
(25:58):
that's the case. We've seen it before. Some quarterbacks hit
ledges later in their career and then it's all over.
But we'll find out what Sean Payton, because he went
from Pete Carroll to Nathaniel Hackett. Now he'll have Sean Payton,
who is probably gonna be in the Hall of Fame
one day. So we'll see what coaching really means to
the quarterback position. And if it means a lot, then
(26:18):
it means that Brandon Staley is very bad at this
because justin Herbert is incredible. He is objectively an incredible
talent who just hasn't been able to win yet in
the league. You can make excuses like injury, you can
make excuses like, well, you know, sometimes the defense let
(26:40):
them down. But Brandon Staley was brought in as a
defensive coordinator from the Rams, like he was a guru
on that side of the ball, So hard to blame
the defense without blaming him directly. And then, oh, by
the way, he has one of the more talented quarterbacks
in the league who you've put in compromising positions at
times with some of the decision making on fourth downs
(27:03):
in the past. So I'm I kind of I kind
of see it through the same lens as this unnamed
the NFC general manager.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
The only part that I disagreed with is I actually
think Jerry Jones, who has been very loyal to his
head coaches almost too loyal times, you know, and and
it's got him seb Yeah, Jacon, Garrett, Wade Phillips. Heck,
how many people wanted Mike McCarthy out, you know, after
one season or never thought they should have hired him
in the first place. And not only is he still there,
(27:32):
but now he's running the offense and he's gonna be
calling plays. So that's the only thing that I disagreed with.
But it is about Brandon Staley. But it also you
bring up Sean Payton, and I think is so interesting
is all of last season we had seen Sean Payton
do stuff for Fox, but we'd also seen him be
spotted at Charger games. I don't remember too many Rams
(27:54):
games that he was at. I don't know. It was
just interesting that he happened to be at the Chargers games.
But there are thought to be an interest from Peyton
to join the Chargers, and maybe they weren't gonna pay
him enough, and maybe they that was the reason. I
don't know, but Brandon Staley stayed. And I also wonder
rich if Sean Payton takes the Broncos job to kind
(28:16):
of get back at the Chargers, to be like all right,
you're not gonna hire me. Well, I'm gonna be in
your division and I'm gonna beat you. Because the camp
that Sean Payton is running sure seems to have a
little different feel than what he had done for so
long in New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I don't recall what the early times were, but Peyton
has now come out and saying, hey, in our preseason game,
there's gonna be no TV interviews. You guys are wearing
your pads, you're wearing your jerseys, You're not wearing the
Gilliging hats. Like he is laying down the law, and
we saw him lay down the law with Russell Wilson.
We've seen this throughout camp. Put his foot in his
mouth maybe with Nathaniel Hackett. But there seems to be
(28:50):
like this edge to Sean Payton. And I wonder if
he's got an ax to grind with those Chargers because
he didn't get the job there. I feel that the
job that Sean Payton is doing right now in Denver
is taking a lot a lot of energy, and maybe
that could be part of the reason why he's so
invested in what's going on.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, if there's one thing that we all know it's
well studied. It's that Gilligan hats in the preseason equal
regular season losses.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
We've seen that so many times.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So thank goodness he's rid Denver nation of that, or
Broncos nation of that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Scorge timely reference as well. I'm sure the players will
know exactly what he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah, right, exactly right, and so many of them were
big fans of Marianne. The reality of the coaching business,
or really even free agency in the NFL is most
of the time money talks, you're gonna go to the
team that pays you the most money. And the reason
why that's a salient point to bring up here is
(29:48):
regardless of how talented Justin Herbert or how bright his
future is, the Denver Broncos were willing to pay Sean
Payton what he felt he was worth. And then also
on the other side of it, you got to remember
they had to trade New Orleans something to get his rights,
so there was that side of it too. But here's
(30:08):
the reality. On the other side of that coin, the
Chargers don't pay coaches. They don't look at their last
bunch of hires, Norv Turner into Mike McCoy into Anthony Lynn,
into Brandon Staley, all of them first time coaches, all
of them bargain basement opportunities there. I mean as soon
(30:31):
as coaches got expensive in Los Angeles or San Diego previously,
they got rid of them. I mean they fired Marty
Schottenheimer off of fourteen to two season for crying out loud.
I mean, so that is the reality of that ownership group.
They don't like to spend money, they don't have to
spend That's the reason why they are practically playing rent
(30:55):
free at SOFI Stadium and have yet to paid a
dime of their relocation because they can't and I don't
know if they ever will. That's the reality. So yeah,
Chargers fans are gonna be upset about this because they're
gonna miss the the They're gonna miss the boat on
all these hot coaching candidates that everybody wants, like as
(31:16):
Sean Payton when he was up for grabs. It's because
they're not going to be able to pay enough to
lure a big name coach there unless the owner decides
to change his approach, which he hasn't in over two decades.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
At this point.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
He's Rich Orenberger. I'm Dan Byer. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. As we are live
from the Tirek dot Com studio. Strong strong points from
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at Ornberger find me at Dan Byer on Fox One.
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(31:50):
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Speaker 7 (32:07):
Now, the pitstel Volt b Striye three is Call one
away and Las d has again giving it to the
Yankee bench and here comes Boone and I would say
he either has or will be thrown out.
Speaker 10 (32:20):
Oh they're really arguing, and Boone's now going to go
draw him draw on the plate where this strike zone is.
Aaron Boone is now showing making a line of where
the ball was, and then he just imitated, I'm sorry,
last boon strike.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Boone drew a line where the strike was called, which
is way off the plate, and then he gave the
the pump out sign that the umpire uses to throw
a guy out.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, Boone won't be managing soon. He was just booted
from the game. That's my John Sterling and that is
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(33:10):
Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio Yankees Radio Network. With
that call, he's Rich Hornberger. I'm Dan Byer. Did it
get flashbacks? Hearing a little ac DC? Back to the
concert that told Gillette, Oh.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
My goodness, the place was coming down.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Also, a lot of DC was played at Gillette Stadium
when I was in New England. In fact, Thunderstruck I
think it was our runout song at that time.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
It was either that or maybe it was Ozzy it
was Crazy Train.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I can't remember one of those.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It was one of those too, but I know that
Thunderstruck got played a lot in the stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Sure, and Virginia, you know Virginia Tech has the enter
Sandman entrance. That is is like one of the best
in all of college football. I don't know who it
was done thunderstruck, and I do know growing up, packer
Struck was what they would try to do at lambeau Field.
And you would instead of thunder, you would chant packers.
This was in the early nineties. There's not a song
(34:07):
called packer Struck, but they just on the video board
they had packers whatever. They yelled thunder. All right, that's dumb.
It's true, but it's dumb. Let's get to the press,
the press lot, some of the headlines that we need
to know about today. What's going on Matzi?
Speaker 9 (34:23):
Well, guys, obviously finding Tom Brady's replacement wasn't gonna be easy.
In their first unofficial depth chart for training camp, the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers have listed Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trusk
as their QB one.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Jason Stewart. What's the line, what's the what's the line
that we we love to hear?
Speaker 8 (34:45):
Isn't the the old line? If you have two quarterbacks,
you don't have one? And who said that?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I don't know who said that first. I don't know
where that came from. Who said that? But does anybody
know where that line came from?
Speaker 8 (34:58):
I do know that I've adopted did it for our
Bachelor podcast? That right now, Charity, she's got three guys,
and if you've got three guys, you don't have one.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's a good point.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
She's in love of three guys.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's so it's a it's a love cube, it's a
love Polly Hadron.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
I don't know what to call that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I don't know either, and I'm trying to find out.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Who says John Madden said it?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
It was John Madden, That's what I'm finding it was maybe, Yeah,
I wasn't I wasn't sure if.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah, it was if you have two quarterbacks, you don't
have a quarterback. If you have three, you have an
episode of the Bachelorette exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Is it possible to be in love with three people
at one time?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I guess it can be.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Oh sure, Okay, it happens all the time. Yeah, yeah,
that's what love is all about. You love three people.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Polly amorous.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yes, I thought maybe John McKay said it, but I
have not heard any you know, anybody attribute that line
to him.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I think it was Brian Johnson who said it first.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Hi guys, and it's annual franchise evaluation Sport it Go
has listened to Dallas Cowboys is the most valuable sports
franchise in the world at nine point two bi Leona.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Wow, what's crazy to think is the actual price Jerry
could get to be sold right, because it wouldn't be
nine point two, it would be north of that. Yes,
that's what blew my mind about that number was if
he ever wanted to sell it, what he could actually
get for it.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
It's incredible how much money that man is worth. And
the fact that he was still willing to do that.
Papa John's pizza ass Remember with two large top beza.
Remember that it's you and the Papa. You're gonna get
fresh ingredients, fresh pizza.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's good. Rich.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I love me some Jerry Jones quotes, because guy will
hit you with, well, sometimes you're the rooster, sometimes you're
the fox in the henhouse.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
You're just like, what the hell does that mean? Jerry's Well,
whatever it means, it's worth nine point two billion dollars. Yes.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
Golden State Warriors were second seven point five six billion,
and the New York Yankees were third seven point one
to three billion.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Warriors more than the Yanks.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Yeah, I was shocked about that too. I was shocked
about that too.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
Hard Knocks premiere tonight ten pm Eastern Time. Who's watching?
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I am? I am watching. I just want to know.
Is it gonna be an Aaron Rodgers fest or is
it gonna go back to the recipe of trying to
find the young guys, you know, the unheralded guys that
make that program so good.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Oh no, this is gonna be a deep dive into
Robert sala as a head coach trying to find his path.
Or maybe it's gonna be Zach Wilson as he strives
to be who he needs to be now for of course,
it's gonna be an Aaron Rodgers fest. A.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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