August 22, 2023 • 40 mins
Jason and Mike debate if this will be Jim Harbaugh’s last season coaching Michigan football. Things got real chippy between the Eagles and Colts at joint practices. The Bucs have named Baker Mayfield as their Week 1 starting QB vs. the Minnesota Vikings. Plus, the Progressive play of the day!
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should be. You know, a little bit more on the
Jonathan Taylor situation before we get into Jim Harbaugh. We
(00:41):
started the conversation a few minutes ago, Mike, you and
I about Taylor and how easy the culture making it
to trade him because Jim Mersey, who fancies himself the
nebacadesser of the NFL. I mean, I could have gone Caesar,
but that that was pretty good though, that was more fun.
I remember learning about him when I was when I
was little, right like you liked Elephants, right, he was
the one who liked that wrote on Elephants. I think
(01:02):
that was the basis for Indiana Jones something like that.
He has decided he wants Taylor out because the asking price, hey,
first round pick and or the equivalent of one. He's
making it easy for teams to go out and get him.
And the gamble is for a running back. Yeah, I
get it. I get that. It's a gamble because here's Taylor,
who is a running back in a very replaceable position.
(01:24):
But he's one of the top three guys in the league.
And yes, he's coming off an injury. But for the
first two years he was terrific and he was terrific
last year, you know. But but he did get hurt.
But if he was injured overly so we see guys
getting bigger deals that have more injury problems than Jonathan Taylor. Yeah,
I can. I completely believe a team is going to
(01:45):
by the end of the week say hey, here's our
equivalent of a first round pick for Jonathan Taylor, because
we are that kind of guy away from winning the
Super Bowl. Maybe it's a team like the Chiefs. Maybe
it's a team in the NFC because likely. You know
that he's gonna want to punish him and send him
as far away from winning as he can. But you know,
if he wants him gone, he's got to send him
where he's got to go. But there's other teams. Hey,
(02:06):
we really need a running back here. The Bears could
could get one number one running back, they'd love to
get one or another team, but the Cardinals. You know,
Jonathan Taylor would be a great fit with the Cardinals
because he'd feel like I'm sending him somewhere else where.
He's all the way out of the West Coast, don't
have to worry about him anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And trade him to the team that has an over
underwin total of about three.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But somebody who thinks they are going to win and
can be a star running back away if they think,
what's our first round pick going to be in the twenties, Yeah,
that's where that for Jonathan Taylor one hundred percent. I
think he's gone by the end of the week, By
Saturday at the latest, he's on a new team. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think it comes down to the creatativity of it,
all right, because we've watched it here with the Rams,
We've got our guy John Ramos capologists. I mean he's
watched them do their wizardry of moving money around and
shuffling through ushering in a new age of general manager
work in the NF right where it's the r and
how do we make this work? We've seed so many
(03:03):
other teams now be more creative in terms of stretching
things out so that the money side of it is only,
you know, part of a concern because you look at
available cap space and all that and say, well, who's
doing this now and shuffling? I get your point there,
and certainly the the mid twenties late round pick right,
Kansas City has been mentioned a bunch. Miami are two
(03:24):
of the teams that get mentioned. I keep saying Miami
just because I know it gets under your skin.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Stop but he don't need him in the AFC stas
they might have enough they need him there, right, You
want to talk about it like you tried to throw
Arizona out there. Arizona, what's he gonna do?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But they're over under moves from three and a half
to sure maybe well, whereas Miami all of a sudden,
if he's sound for the final half of a season
two is upright and you've got Waddle and Hill terrorizing
people downfield.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
All right, that's actually a difference maker.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
No, but how many good players in the AFCAS there's
too many good players. There's not enough good players in
other division.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, now that Alabama Mack is ready to go for
the for the Patriots, and man next he's gonna be
slinging it all over the yard. And obviously the Bills
have some highly touted, highly paid pundits put out there
some bad information that Stefan Diggs, you know, was really
unhappy and angry. And Stefan Diggs immediately said, no, you
(04:20):
know nothing, and we'll leave that guy unnamed because otherwise
he'd take it personally. So we talk about it here
with Jonathan Taylor. It's the I get it. You know,
it looks easy on paper, of hey, give us the
equal into the first You think jim Or says letting
it go that easy? Sure, he strikes me as a
guy that's not letting it go that easy.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They wouldn't put it out there. They wouldn't put it
out there officially right away. This is what we want
for him call us. If they really wanted to make
it difficult, it would have been something else. Now, he
could make it difficult with the trade. And that's why
I throw Arizona out there, because, yeah, you think I'm
gonna send you to an outpost of the NFL, someone
who's barely in the league. That's where I want. But
it was a team like the Chiefs that say, hey,
(05:01):
here's a first round pick, or here's a first and
the third. Hey, you want to sweeten it to get
Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it.
He wants him gone, he wants to maximize the value
for him. There's many things he wants, but the number
one thing he wants Jonathan Taylor out. And they wouldn't
They wouldn't have said that, here's the streamlined first round
pick equivalent. Go wow, but we want to trade.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
But again, it's all through sources and through reporters. I
don't want to dismis, diminish it and dismiss it categorically.
But Ursee is the type of guy if it was
really that easy, wouldn't he get in front of a
microphone or go on X and just say it himself, like, yeah,
we're gonna let him seek a deal and this is.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
What we want probably because it's football theoretic football.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
People jumped in and said, I, Jim, now you gotta
let us take this here now, Okay, all right, I
see the damage you're you're wrecking on social media. You
gotta let us do our.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Everybody wants to get Chris Ballard off the hook all
the time. Look like he picked all the He didn't
have any of to say.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And this was just a parade of bad quarterbacks that
Jim er say commanded show up since Andrew Luck left.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Come on, I'm buy it at for a second.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'll even give you one more. I'll go you one better.
Anthony Richardson is the starting quarterback for the Colts because
he wants to move on from the Jonathan Taylor drama.
He say, this is our guy, this is who we are.
I guarantee you. He made the call to make him
the starting.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Course because he saw when everybody was projecting rushing totals
on Fantasy football blocks even Richardson's gonna run for seven
hundred yards or more. So we don't need a number
one running back anymore. I like what this Harmon guy
says about him.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I like that. No, he wants to move on from
Taylor and Richardson. Let's make him the starter now and
turn him into the focal point of this team. Because
even Richardson says, I was surprised by being named the star.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
That's true because he hadn't really earned it yet.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I get you want to put him in and you
want to make sure you're tailoring the offense around his
particular skill set. I understand that. But the guy's got
it and he's played sixteen games since he graduated high school. Right.
This is this is because what happened right after the
move was made. Erse puts out a tweet saying, sport
this move. Really, do you support it? Or did you say, hey,
let's make them the starting quarterback. I'm the owner of
the team. I want to start him.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If this tailor drama wasn't going on, everything would still
be fine, and maybe Richardson is still playing trying to
win the job, which he's going to win at some point.
It's just, hey, get a little bit more NFL life
in you. Before it happened.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
It does deprive us our minshew mania to start the season.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah we're all a.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Little less for that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah yeah, but a week one with all of the
grandiose matchups and storylines as much as Richardson's starting is
is good and has some juice because we watched it, right,
We watched him in college and we saw some of
the high points. You know, you and I live in
the evenings here on Fox Sports Radio, and we saw
some of the low points where you know, there's there's
(07:43):
a lot to the learning curve still to be had.
But the idea that Gardner Minshew would be back under
center for an NFL team in week one, I mean,
come on, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I bet think you have to move on from that.
That's more, you know, that's more like it's more like
found money. You can't expect Gardner Minshew on the field.
If it does happen, great, but you can't expect it.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh no, no, no, And I never expected it. But
you know, hope's a dangerous thing, as we talk about
all the time Twitter.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
At how about a fresca Mike gets swollen dome Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlieb today. Now, another big
story out of football we promised to get to here
for a few min We'll get to the big brawl
between the Colts and the and the and the Eagles
coming up in a few minutes. But Jim Harbaugh is
now going to be suspended for the first three games
of the college football season. He saw the story yesterday.
(08:30):
They had been working on some sort of agreement with
the NCAA because of violations during the COVID dead period
of recruiting, and the University of Michigan likely decided, according
to experts, Pete Bamile of ESPN saying that, hey, they're
trying to throw themselves on the mercy of college football
by saying, listen, we're gonna suspend them for three games
here while you guys figure it out, so you go
(08:52):
light on us next year, meaning that it looked like
it could have been a really heavy suspension and Harball
would miss a great amount of time. It's gonna be
three games this year that he's not gonna really miss
because he's coming back to the beginning of the Big
Ten season when they play Rutgers. But I'll tell you this,
for every year we do this story. Every year at
the end of the college football year, it's is Jim
(09:13):
Harbaugh gonna stay or is he gonna go to the NFL?
Every is he gonna stay, is he gonna go.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Remember all the loud Mounts saying they had to fire
him because he couldn't coach.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, he winds up getting more money or things. Things change,
And now Harbaugh is at the highest level he has
ever been at. He's got Michigan back to levels they
hadn't been at since Lloyd Carr was the head coach.
They're beating Ohio State year in and year out, and they're
beating them bad. They've been to the College Football Playoff twice.
And now this, on paper, is Harbaugh's best team. He's
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got a superstar quarterback, two superstar running backs. This is
the year for him to have another year like last year.
The stars are aligning for this to be his final
year in Michigan. Like, what's gonna happen after this year
when his running backs go to the NFL? Maybe JJ McCarthy,
he stays, Maybe he does. Who knows. It's all aligning
for him for this to be the year he makes
(10:05):
a jump because he's not gonna go through next year
dealing with a big long suspension. And we're not gonna
know this likely until after the college football season ends.
And if you're ever going to go now is the time,
coming off a big three year run where you look
like you're gonna have this kind of season. Look, Ohio
State still don't even know who their starting quarterback is
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going to be. They're split down the middle. This is
gonna be another Michigan year, at least on paper. So
if you're coming off of three years of beating Ohio
State three years in the College Football Playoff and not
knowing what's going to happen suspension wise, plus trying to
navigate a new Big ten that's gonna be the Big
twenty at some point, pat and depending on that, and
when you don't know how that's gonna affect recruiting, how
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that's gonna affect what you have to do nil wise,
now is the time for him to make that run
and say, you know what, college football is just getting
too tough suspension wise, figuring it out year to year
with nil and transfers. This is now time for me
to go back to the NFL. And there could be
big time openings this this year, after this year. Dallas
could be open, the Chargers could be open, the Rams
(11:08):
could be open. If you want to jump in for
Sean McVay, there could be some large openings there for him.
Everything seems to be aligning for this to be the
final year for Harbaugh, and then he jumps back to
the NFL, where he's extremely successful over a short period
of time before he went to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, the curiosity is what's real, what's imagined in all
of this data, right, the recruiting stuff during COVID, some
just want to dismiss it and say, ah, whatever, it
was a different time and whatever. No, they put in
rules so if you had, everybody else has to play
by the rules.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If you didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Uh, And it's proven beyond just a cheeseburger, because that's
the dopey thing that that it's been centered on from
a and and reduced to in the media side of things,
and something that the NCAA lawyers why they shouldn't have
been commenting they did, saying, hey, it's not just a cheeseburger,
like if there's if there's some gravitas there, you know,
(11:59):
it's the last throws of the NCAA, Right, they're losing
all their power, They've got nothing left. This is their
last grab. Look we got the guy from Michigan, right,
Look what they just did with Tennessee. Because that's that's
really what Michigan is banking on. Like, wait, they got
an eight million dollar fine for two hundred plus infractions,
two hundred plus eight million dollar fine, vacated wins.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Did they have to go and cut a check for
all those butts and seats and everything that was sold
at the home games or anything? They know, they basically
gave back the check they got for a Bowl game.
They got to keep everything else. Oh and because they cooperated,
here's the scholarship productions going forward to a year wood
be what a biting penalty. So that's what Michigan's open for. Hey,
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we'll fall on it. There's three games, leave us alone
and go away. We're a national powerhouse. And that's exactly Look.
I know he is not contrite. He was at Big
ten media day, and Jim Harbaugh has never been a
guy that is appall gize for anything, which you have
to respect to a point. But in this case, if
you if you did something wrong and it's proven, well
(13:09):
that that's where the NCAA is trying to play gotcha.
Now you have him pairing up with Jerry Jones. Made
for us working in media sign them up for whatever
hard knocks equivalent we can get. Right now, two of
those guys getting after each other because it'll be a
great honeymoon period for about a month until they want
to choke each other out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But that month is gonna be awesome. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I mean, look, Jerry still won't put Jimmy Johnson in
the ring of honor.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, but once in a while he'll go He'll go
big because he knows he can't just have a yes
man all the time. He went big with Parcels twenty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
That's a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Every generate, but every generation, right we got in every generation.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Every generation blames the one before. I know, we're in
the living years.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Right now, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Gonna go get the hardball guy. Uh uh, And I'll
get either one. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you. Maybe
I could get both of them to come and coach
can like split the job. That'd be kind of funny,
do a little bit, because what is Jerry Jones like?
In addition, he likes headlines. He wants to win, and
he likes headlines. And does he make a lot of
headlines by hiring the next retread? Or does he make headlines.
(14:14):
Bringing Jim Harbaugh back to the NFL, and Harbaugh's my
guy and we talk all the time, boll. He loves
winning and he loves headlines, and Harbaugh brings both of them.
McCarthy doesn't really bring headlines. McCarthy brings the bit of
the yes man. Okay, because we don't talk about Mike McCarthy,
we don't talk. We talk about Dak. We talk about
Dak and Jerry Jones. And now now suddenly it would
(14:34):
be a bigger deal in America's team becomes a bigger
version of America's team. It's gonna be there the opening.
Everything is lining up for it to be there, for
Harbor to say one last year in ann Arbor and
then I'm headed to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You basically said bet the under on the Cowboys too.
That's really what I heard.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I really said. I don't know, did I really say it?
But did I really say that? But did I really
say exit? How about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlieb today coming up next. Yeah,
we have a wild story out of an NFL joint
practice day to get to punch is thrown, Guys getting
blind sided. It's insane. Keep it right here. This is
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Speaker 4 (15:33):
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Speaker 2 (15:57):
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Speaker 2 (16:09):
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Crazy story out of joint practice today between the Eagles
and the Colts. It started during a play in which
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Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson had the ball punched out. Now,
in joint practice, we're seeing a lot of joint practice
in a lot of fights, which which is kind of
the theme of the next few minutes. We're seeing a
lot of fights. And this was precipitated by the fact
that one of the defensive players on the Eagles tried
to punch the ball out of Anthony Richards's hand because
(16:49):
he was close enough. Now, the rule is in joint
practices like this, when you get near the quarterback, you
don't hit him. That goes all the Nobody wants their
quarterback to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Nobody gets no touching, swipe or no swiping, all of
those things.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
You leave Malone.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, the biggest controversy we had with this was last
week was where the joint practice between the Raiders and
the Rams where Stafford said after her, you know, Max
Crosby was getting like five yards away for being yelling
sack sack, sack stop. The play sack sack.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's about as animated as we've ever seen Matthew Stafford,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But isn't that totally on brand for Max Crosby, Oh,
totally five yards away sack sack.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, I mean, especially after you watched quarterback and his
back and forth with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Dude, don't punch me, dude, don't punch me. Don't punch me,
I said, don't punch me, Just don't punch me.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
To So, with thirty seven expletives thrown in there, bye, don't.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Touch me, I said, don't blank and punch me. Don't
bit the guy. Blanket, dude, blanket punch me, I said,
don't punch me. So the ball is punched out and
that precipitated a.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Little bit of a brew haha. But you know, everything
seemed to be all right until later on in the
joint practice where zai hear Franklin had a couple of
big hits on Kenneth Gainwell. Eagles running back Jason Kelsey
did not like it, ran down the field and decleted
Franklin with a blind side, cheap shot, and that sparked
(18:11):
a huge brawl. Now, Kelsey did take ownership of his
actions afterwards said it was a cheap shot. I let
my emotions get the better of me. That doesn't belong
out there in the field. I'm a little ashamed that
got to that level. Now Franklin said, hey, that's okay.
I'll get a chance to see him on, you know,
in our next game on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So hey, all right, I love the line though, right,
And you have joint practices against other organizations. Sometimes your
speed ain't their speed. People get offended. That's life. That's
a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Then it could be it could be your speed ain't
their speed. I can put that and put that on there.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We're gonna work on that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That's like, that's like a no fear T shirt from
the nineties. That's like, asay, your speed ain't there's.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Now harmon Smith, there's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ain't your speed. So this is what happened, and it
would look that the fight looked ugly from all accounts
and a couple of quick pits of video that have
been put out there. But look, why is this happening?
This has become an epidemic. Now every day there is
a report of a big fight at a joint practice
between teams and there's two reasons for it. There's one
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reason that that's pretty obvious and one that's so obvious
that people don't talk about. One is that it's not
quite as adjudicated as an NFL games. It's a lot
easier to get in a brawl because it's not the game.
It's you know, people run on the field when they
feel like they need to. You're talking about backing off. Yes,
there are referees there, but it's just not the same
(19:39):
atmosphere as an NFL game. It's not nearly as buttoned up.
It's much looser. It's easier for players to run out there.
Half of them aren't even in all of their pads,
and you see things like this because of that, because
it's not where hey, flags are flying and you're gonna
get suspended or you're gonna get kicked out of the game.
None of that is part of what goes on at
a joint practice, so it's easy for this to happen.
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The other part is, and I'm telling you, and I
know you can disagree with me on this, but it's hot,
and tempers flare with will get hot, and you're practicing
every single day in the heat and all that does
is make you mad, and it makes you madder than
you should and emotions get the best of you because
when you're hot, and you're really hot, this happens, all right,
(20:22):
it would kill teams to practice at night. Let's have
a joint practice at night. Why not. It's a little
bit cooler. We don't have to worry about stuff like
this as much. But it just gets hot, as it
is for everybody. Your temper rises quickly and much quicker
when you are really hot and sweating your you know what,
off than you are if you're in an air conditioned room,
or if you are in a much better atmosphere. Right, Like,
(20:44):
if I wanted to go if I was younger and
I wanted to go out and ask my mom or
my dad for a favor, you know, Hey, can I
go sleep over you know, Billy's house tonight. Am I
gonna talk to my dad about it when he's sitting
down reading the paper and having a coffee? Or Am
I gonna go out while he's digging a big hole
in the backyard the middle of the day because he's
moving my mom's garden. Hey, Dad, I know, wow, Hey
I go sleep it? Bill. He's like no, get out
(21:05):
here right now. Help me with this. You get out there.
You're not sleeping over anywhere. Oh, you gotta pick a
time of place right well.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's say you got to be smart about it and say, hey, Dad,
I can get you out of this heat really fast
if I give you an hour of my time right now.
And then while you're commiserating over moving the garden, then
you ask about going to see your guy Billy.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I would a bad job by you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Digging out in the in the garden in the middle
of summer sounds this sounds awful. I'm not doing it.
It sounds as fun as Matt Damon running at the
end of air. It's stupid. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So that's true. It's true.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
But I'm just saying, right, you know, the greasy wheel
and all you know and all that stuff. But you know,
it's the the idea that it's hot out. Sure, and
we've done the temperature check. It's point one four degrees
per decade, so sure it's a little hotter. Look, you're
seeing guys in a different uniform. All the anks you
(21:55):
may have because you've been getting beaten down by someone
on your squad.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You can't take the shot at him. You can't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And particularly in a lot of those locker rooms, right
the sacred Cows. Even in this particular instance, you had,
you know, Franklin saying, well the OG's I would have
thought they would have at least either talked to me
or squared me up before doing that, you know, just
a bit of respect. But it's with a different team,
it's with a different different uniform, so you can take
(22:23):
out some of those frustrations. So I think that's part
of it. And we've seen some of those canceled altogether
for this week as we get later on ahead of
the final preseason games.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But I'll take it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean, plenty of great screenplays and circumstances in our
society take place where the heat is on. I mean,
I think of you know, do the right thing. You know,
part of the backstory is everybody's hot, everybody's agitated. It's
Richard Daly all my years ago in Chicago, trying to
figure out how they were gonna take care of the people.
He would get his exasperated, just say, it's hot, it's hot.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But that moving it tonight? I don't know how much
you're dissipating. Sure, you're on that angst.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're completely getting rid of the potential of so many
other things.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So it goes from ninety five degrees to eighty eight, guys,
you're still gonna be pussy.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Or it goes from eighty eight. But the sun is
not out, You're not You're you're in more of an
atmosphere of what it's gonna be like playing.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's it's just I don't know, not in September. Not
too hot.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's happened. It's a little bit. It's a little bit,
it's a little bit cooler. And you also have it, uh,
you also have it adjudicated better because you're on the
field on Sunday and not on a sweaty practice field
where it's like, I've had enough of this practicing and
hitting every single day.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, then go and pay referees.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
The beginning the beginning of the regular season. Look, you're
not hitting, You're you're not having the big intensive practices
that you are now during.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, because they legislated that out because they wanted an
extra couple of days off, right, they gave up a
lot of other things for that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, no, so that so that abates that, that that
abates itself, and then so that's why during the season
things are a little bit easier. But now it's hot,
and you're gonna get this happening. It's gonna do. It's
gonna happen next year and the year after the earth
because it's hot. And then that's what it's been in
the eighties. And you know, in Philadelphia all week. I
think the humidity level today was really big. I was
looking at the weather report before.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You're really obsessed with the it's hot, and these guys
can't control themselves. It's hot as if they're the It
takes away all rationale and reasoning from these highly trained
professional athletes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That suddenly it throws everything out the window.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It takes reason out of everybody. You could sit in
your house and make a big plan. What am I
gonna do today? Well, I gotta go to the grocery store.
I gotta pick up dry cleaning, I gotta go oh,
I gotta go pick up a birthday present. And then
I'm gonna go here. And then you walk out of
the house and oh my god, it's so hot, and
suddenly everything you planned is now out. But I mean
because all you do, you're overcome by the heat.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well that's the Mike Tyson thing until you get punched
in the face, and certainly what do we say, Yeah,
the heat punched me in the face.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and then you gotta come back plan B.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That doesn't mean you're going hog wild like Holgamania in
the mid eighties and you're running rough house, pillared a
post and then looking from the crowd to get jacked up.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It means you're It means you're hotter. It means you're
you're more attuned to uh road rage, more tuned to
store rage by saying I'm not gonna buy this, this
is so much money?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Did you watch Law and Order earlier today? And that
was an excuse someone tried to use on Jack McCoy.
Is that what you're bringing up here?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I haven't watched Law and Order in a long time.
You still watch Law and.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Order all the time?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Do you really?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I love it? Cherry Orbach?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Was Was that a big Was that a big plotline?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's been used before.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I mean there's been a lot of random excuses used
to try to get defendants off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, all right, but I'm telling you, man, we deal
with Everybody deals with the heat, and we deal with
it differently, and we get miserable and our tempers rise
when it's hot. It's and it's it's no coincidence that. Hey,
when you're putting these players out there and they've had
all these other circumstances as well, practicing every single day.
Now they get to hit somebody new uniform, all of
these things. It's hot. It's what it is. It's hot.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And to be fair, you know, as the the voice
of reason here at Fox Sports Radio, I pull it
back just.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Because you've dubbed yourself the voice of reason.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Well you know what yourself that No, I've been I've
been told that many many times.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is something you've been told that once. I don't think
one time is that outside not one.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Thing to prove it, the idea of being that just
like when players get in trouble, whenever it's a small percentage. Likewise,
you got a lot of players that aren't going out
and brawling and losing their reason and rush rationality.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Uh, because it's hot outside, it's todd but.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Every day, but every day we're getting a store. Every
day it's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
But every single day, Yeah, it's a little flare.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
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Speaker 8 (26:51):
Want to pick a side, but I agree with both
of you.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
I do think the heat makes people angry, but I
also think you're a professional football players, so you got
to keep your act together.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We got to keep oposure.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
But I agree that I'm angry in the heat.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Let me tell you what would happen. Let me just
tell you what happened. So you you we're in a
nice air conditioned studio doing the show, right and hey,
you're here. We're having fun update stories. If the air
conditioner was broken and it was it was a balmy
eighty five in the room, your updates wouldn't be hot,
no sports yet.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
All the games might be a little shorter, right, I mean,
get him on, get him over, get him in, because
you know I want to get back to fanning myself.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I'm not going to deny I probably would be short
and I'd probably would be annoyed.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's what they would be. And no games. I don't
know why I'm here. There's no games happening right now.
Now back to you, guys.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the i'd be short.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, you and I being vertically challenged months.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
You're not Ron Jason on how I would handle that.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You're not wrong, You're on the money.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually, I think he's, you know, casting aspersions on you
and and calling you out.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But he's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Now, going to sit in my car with the air
conditioning affle side for my next update.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's got a swamp cooler going in the
update set.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
Well, you know the sun.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The heat sucks.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Guys, did you have a bay Buccaneers have named Baker
Mayfield's starting quarterback officially. Colts Rickey quarterback Anthony Richardson is
going to start Thursday's preseason finale against the Eagles. Jets
head coach Robert Sala thinks it's in the best interest
of the team to play Aaron Rodgers in their preseason
finale against the Giants, scene.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
He can't coach scared.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Even if it's hot outside.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
He can't coach scared.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I'm just starting Aaron Rode hurt because it's hot outside.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's too ot.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
Former Bears running back Tarik Cohen is trying to make
a comeback after missing the last two seasons dealing with
an ACL injury. This is per his agent, and even
though a PGA tour spokesperson has said that the tour
has not seen an increase in spectators attempting to distract
golfers for betting purposes, John Rahm said today that the
players hear about.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Gambling every single round, so more and more do they
hear it, basically because they said if you whisper, you
gonna hear it. And the NBA is finding James Harding
one hundred thousand dollars for you know, car calling Darryl
Mory a liar per saying that he's not going to
do his job unless he's traded.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I mean it is what it is. It's probably hot outside.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It was probably hot outside when he said it too hot.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
It was so so hot that he had her called
Daryl Morial I I was hot in China.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I had to make sure people heard it twice.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well, I mean it wasn't crowded, crowded gym that he
was working at. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe that's what
it was. Back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, he sold more than one hundred thousand dollars worth
of ever I saw that and everything right there didn't Yeah,
a lot of wine.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, James Harden saying, is it worth the five of
one hundred grand to say how badly I want out
of Philadelphia? Yes? Absolutely fun. Thanks a bunch of monch
appreciate it. Now. You heard Manzia before she got really
upset during the updow. You heard Manzi the update. There's
another big quarterback decision that was made. Tampa Bay has
named Baker Mayfield their starting quarterback over Kyle Trask. Todd
(30:08):
Bowles saying today he informed Kyle Trask first and then
told Baker Mayfield he was number one, and Baker says, great,
Now I gotta lead and do the things I normally
do and all of these things, And all I could
think of is that man, Tampa Bay really might be
able to pick first overall in the NFL draft, and
they really might be to the Baker Mayfield is not
(30:28):
any good. Okay, He's not. And you if you are
if you are Tampa Bay, what kind of year do
you really think you're gonna have it best? You know,
seven and ten following Tom Brady seven and ten, eight nine?
Is that really the best you're gonna get? Baker Mayfield
is not the number one pick? Right?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right? So, but all I can think of is what
do they do with Court? They could have gone out
and got somebody, could have got somebody you know good
to come in, but they decided, ah, let's go for
a band aid year with Baker Mayfield, who couldn't hold
on to the job when he got it in Carolina way,
and they said come in and save us because Sam
Darnold stinks, and not only could he not, he lost
(31:05):
the job midway through the season, didn't get it back.
He was no good. And now the Tampa Bay Buccaneers say, okay, well,
we can't really go into the year just with Kyle
Trask because people will think we're tanking. Let's go sign
Baker Mayfield and we'll come in and just kind of
do whatever we do and we'll tank to get up
there and maybe we picked number one. Overall, we get
Caleb Williams because Baker Mayfield is done he's not a
(31:25):
good quarterback. He had his peak with the Browns. He
fit with what they did really really well, but he
never took the next step up right. He came in.
The organization needed his personality, they needed his fire. They
got it great. He had a pretty good rookie year.
He got deep into the playoffs. The next year they
nearly upset the Kansasity Chiefs. But he never got to
that next level as a quarterback. And so when he
(31:47):
goes someplace else, he can't win the job and keep
it in Carolina, He's gonna go and do it and
win games here in Tampa. No, Tampa's on my short
list of teams that could be drafting number one overall
because even though that division is terrible, and that is
absolutely awful, the NFC South, it is absolutely awful. Tampa Bay.
Really they can make a run the number one overall pay.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They've got enough players in that offense if they're healthy,
between Evans and Godwin and even at the running back
position Rashad White, You've got Jensen.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Back and Wherf's back.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I mean, you've got an offensive line that should be
able to keep him up right, I'm not saying he's
gonna be world beating, nor did I think that you
necessarily have that in Kyle Trask. We have no idea
what he is at this point, but I don't see
them being that bad to wear number one is gonna
be a potential here. Then they might might as well
not have spent any money on this at all, or
(32:41):
they should have just hired someone to help Baker go
find the twelve million that he's claiming his dad's companies
have mismanaged her or whatever going on.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That's a whole other story. Then we got to watch
as it unfolds here and behind the scenes. But yeah,
Baker's a guy.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm just curious to see what we've got, you know,
just like your guy Sam Sam sam Off in San
Francisco might get an opportunity there, Sam Darnold, And you know,
still just twenty five with Baker Mayfield, former number one pick,
third team. Maybe maybe there's some stability here at least
with your wide receivers and the room that you're you're
(33:17):
getting ready to lead. Because you're telling me that was
the case in either Cleveland or in Carolina, I would say, no.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You sound like do you sound like Baker Mayfield's agent.
You sound like his agent with what you're saying about it. Oh,
you can do this, you can do Yeah, Baker Mayfield
stinks and they could pick number one.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Well, Carolina's not gonna be very good.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, their defense is solid offensively, what you got New Orleans.
We've already talked about Derek Carr on paper. They're the
best team, right and then Atlanta good enough to be dangerous,
not good enough to really do much of anything. A
bunch of teams scrambling towards nine and eight.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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Speaker 3 (35:33):
They wanted to get that first meaningful win for new
owner Josh Harris and Magic Johnson.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Let's go Sure.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Sure wanted to stop that streak at twenty four for
the Ravens. Look at this the best preseason game, the
biggest preseason game we've seen in years, because both teams
treated the final five minutes like it was the end
of a regular season. Let's go there.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Magic Johnson couldn't get to Twitter fast enough.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They're calling timeouts there. The Ravens are blitzing the house.
The Commanders are just trying to get in field goal range.
Like none of it was that, Oh no, we don't
really care about it. No, that's a load of crap.
That's such a load of crap. The Ravens wanted to
keep that drive at twenty five games that they won
in a row, and the Commanders wanted to end it.
Just admit, Yes, it mattered a lot to you, and
(36:19):
it was fun. It was embarrassing that it mattered so much,
but it was fun. It was fun for us to watch.
It was like got an extra regular season game.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
The thing that kind of irked me though, there didn't
seem to be any kind of trophy handed out, like
a Floyd of Rosedale bronze pig that they have is
part of a you know, an Iowa battle and all
those things, the acts and everything they do in the
Big ten trophies seems like with the Ravens and Commanders
when they get together, there should have been a trophy
or something other than a Josh Harris handshake.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well no, no, Well here's a trophy, is that if
Washington wins, they hand over a complete copy of the
American President which took place in Washington. Baltimore hands over
the entire five series seasons of the Wire. So that's that.
That's where everybody gets the five seasons of the water.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, so available, now the play together away. I mean, look,
you know, but just one one thought of this before
you get to Aaron Rodgers. Just one thought of this
is that, you know, we can say that, hey, it's
not that big a deal the preseason streak twenty four
in a row, but you don't win twenty four games
in a row in the preseason by accident unless you're
trying to win, right. But now, how about this conversation.
(37:27):
Shouldn't the Ravens have been better the last few years?
Because aren't what they're what we're seeing is that their
second and third stringers are better than everybody else's second
and third stringers for the better part of a decade.
Shouldn't they have won more Hey, we're deep, right. We
always talk about that with Eves. Know they're deep, right,
They're deep. They come at you in waves like Robert
Sala wants to dress forty seven defensive lineman and a
(37:50):
quarterback for every game. That's what he wants to do. No,
and we talk about teams being deep and having u
and having depth. Yeah, I think maybe the Ravens should
have won more because clearly their second, third, and four
stringers were better than everybody else's and they haven't won more.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, we've kind of been saying that for a while.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I you know that that Super Bowl is a long
time ago, been traded on that in this winning.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Streak for a long time. Maybe Lamar play more than
twelve games this year and things will go the right way.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He hasn't even had to play in the pre They've
still been winning these games. They don't think they've needed
him at all. They could have just gone whatever they
had were winning in the preseason winning the regular season.
Something is missing from that preseason formula, Mike Harmon, It
is missing from that formula that they can't carry over
to the regular season. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
The wide receivers have been making plays in the preseason
and then they're not been healthy and available down the stretch.
As Dacosta's defiantly told you, I've been using first round
picks on wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Greatest preseason game in the last decade and biggest kick ever,
and you were there for it. You'll always were yesterday.
It's that day now, other dudes. Today, Robert Sala, Jets
head coach, was asked about playing Aaron rodg in the
final preseason game this weekend against the Giants. Maybe you
don't want your guy to get hurt, but Aaron Rodgers
needs the reps, and Sala explained today why he's gonna
(39:10):
put him out there on Saturday. You can't coach scared.
He can't play scared.
Speaker 12 (39:14):
You know you can. You can slip out of your
car and have something happened to you. But you know
we'll be in knock on what Everyone will be fine.
You know, you see some of the great ones out there.
You know, Ken City's playing their guys, Buffalo's playing their guys.
It's it's not uncommon.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
All the great ones, just like us, Kansas City, Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Trying to talk himself into that class. I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But here, here, here's the thing. If he's not gonna
coach scared, I get it, they're not gonna play scared.
I get it. I will be the fan scared because
I'm I'm gonna be the entire game. I'm gonna be
just get him off the field because I've watched quarterbacks,
watch the Jets seasons get ruined because of injuries against
the Giants, whether it's Chad Pennington or Mark Sanchez. Yeah,
the Sanchez injury was tough because that gave us Gino Smith,
(39:57):
you know, back when he wasn't any good. So I'll
be there. I'll be the one scared. I'll be I'll
be watching the game. I'll be fanning scared on Saturday.
That'll be That's my trump. If he's there playing, I'm fanning.
I will be fanning scared on Saturday to get him
out as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I do like the movement of getting guys back and
getting some game reps, getting that rust off, and giving
us a little bit of a Lookxie. You know, I've
attributed some of it to the fact that we've got
sixteen new OC's, so you actually want to see them
call plays in live action. Whatever it does, We'll be
watching and waiting with baited breath to see if Aaron
Rodgers gets off the field unscathed, or whether Becton fails
(40:34):
in his task.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He better have two good cats when he walks off
that field on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I'm telling you that I'm ready to donate one if
the price is right.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
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Jonathan Taylor situation before we get into Jim Harbaugh. We
(00:41):
started the conversation a few minutes ago, Mike, you and
I about Taylor and how easy the culture making it
to trade him because Jim Mersey, who fancies himself the
nebacadesser of the NFL. I mean, I could have gone Caesar,
but that that was pretty good though, that was more fun.
I remember learning about him when I was when I
was little, right like you liked Elephants, right, he was
the one who liked that wrote on Elephants. I think
(01:02):
that was the basis for Indiana Jones something like that.
He has decided he wants Taylor out because the asking price, hey,
first round pick and or the equivalent of one. He's
making it easy for teams to go out and get him.
And the gamble is for a running back. Yeah, I
get it. I get that. It's a gamble because here's Taylor,
who is a running back in a very replaceable position.
(01:24):
But he's one of the top three guys in the league.
And yes, he's coming off an injury. But for the
first two years he was terrific and he was terrific
last year, you know. But but he did get hurt.
But if he was injured overly so we see guys
getting bigger deals that have more injury problems than Jonathan Taylor. Yeah,
I can. I completely believe a team is going to
(01:45):
by the end of the week say hey, here's our
equivalent of a first round pick for Jonathan Taylor, because
we are that kind of guy away from winning the
Super Bowl. Maybe it's a team like the Chiefs. Maybe
it's a team in the NFC because likely. You know
that he's gonna want to punish him and send him
as far away from winning as he can. But you know,
if he wants him gone, he's got to send him
where he's got to go. But there's other teams. Hey,
(02:06):
we really need a running back here. The Bears could
could get one number one running back, they'd love to
get one or another team, but the Cardinals. You know,
Jonathan Taylor would be a great fit with the Cardinals
because he'd feel like I'm sending him somewhere else where.
He's all the way out of the West Coast, don't
have to worry about him anymore.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And trade him to the team that has an over
underwin total of about three.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But somebody who thinks they are going to win and
can be a star running back away if they think,
what's our first round pick going to be in the twenties, Yeah,
that's where that for Jonathan Taylor one hundred percent. I
think he's gone by the end of the week, By
Saturday at the latest, he's on a new team. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I think it comes down to the creatativity of it,
all right, because we've watched it here with the Rams,
We've got our guy John Ramos capologists. I mean he's
watched them do their wizardry of moving money around and
shuffling through ushering in a new age of general manager
work in the NF right where it's the r and
how do we make this work? We've seed so many
(03:03):
other teams now be more creative in terms of stretching
things out so that the money side of it is only,
you know, part of a concern because you look at
available cap space and all that and say, well, who's
doing this now and shuffling? I get your point there,
and certainly the the mid twenties late round pick right,
Kansas City has been mentioned a bunch. Miami are two
(03:24):
of the teams that get mentioned. I keep saying Miami
just because I know it gets under your skin.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Stop but he don't need him in the AFC stas
they might have enough they need him there, right, You
want to talk about it like you tried to throw
Arizona out there. Arizona, what's he gonna do?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
But they're over under moves from three and a half
to sure maybe well, whereas Miami all of a sudden,
if he's sound for the final half of a season
two is upright and you've got Waddle and Hill terrorizing
people downfield.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
All right, that's actually a difference maker.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
No, but how many good players in the AFCAS there's
too many good players. There's not enough good players in
other division.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well, now that Alabama Mack is ready to go for
the for the Patriots, and man next he's gonna be
slinging it all over the yard. And obviously the Bills
have some highly touted, highly paid pundits put out there
some bad information that Stefan Diggs, you know, was really
unhappy and angry. And Stefan Diggs immediately said, no, you
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know nothing, and we'll leave that guy unnamed because otherwise
he'd take it personally. So we talk about it here
with Jonathan Taylor. It's the I get it. You know,
it looks easy on paper, of hey, give us the
equal into the first You think jim Or says letting
it go that easy? Sure, he strikes me as a
guy that's not letting it go that easy.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They wouldn't put it out there. They wouldn't put it
out there officially right away. This is what we want
for him call us. If they really wanted to make
it difficult, it would have been something else. Now, he
could make it difficult with the trade. And that's why
I throw Arizona out there, because, yeah, you think I'm
gonna send you to an outpost of the NFL, someone
who's barely in the league. That's where I want. But
it was a team like the Chiefs that say, hey,
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here's a first round pick, or here's a first and
the third. Hey, you want to sweeten it to get
Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, he's gonna do it. He's gonna do it.
He wants him gone, he wants to maximize the value
for him. There's many things he wants, but the number
one thing he wants Jonathan Taylor out. And they wouldn't
They wouldn't have said that, here's the streamlined first round
pick equivalent. Go wow, but we want to trade.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
But again, it's all through sources and through reporters. I
don't want to dismis, diminish it and dismiss it categorically.
But Ursee is the type of guy if it was
really that easy, wouldn't he get in front of a
microphone or go on X and just say it himself, like, yeah,
we're gonna let him seek a deal and this is.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
What we want probably because it's football theoretic football.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
People jumped in and said, I, Jim, now you gotta
let us take this here now, Okay, all right, I
see the damage you're you're wrecking on social media. You
gotta let us do our.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Everybody wants to get Chris Ballard off the hook all
the time. Look like he picked all the He didn't
have any of to say.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
And this was just a parade of bad quarterbacks that
Jim er say commanded show up since Andrew Luck left.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Come on, I'm buy it at for a second.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'll even give you one more. I'll go you one better.
Anthony Richardson is the starting quarterback for the Colts because
he wants to move on from the Jonathan Taylor drama.
He say, this is our guy, this is who we are.
I guarantee you. He made the call to make him
the starting.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Course because he saw when everybody was projecting rushing totals
on Fantasy football blocks even Richardson's gonna run for seven
hundred yards or more. So we don't need a number
one running back anymore. I like what this Harmon guy
says about him.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I like that. No, he wants to move on from
Taylor and Richardson. Let's make him the starter now and
turn him into the focal point of this team. Because
even Richardson says, I was surprised by being named the star.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
That's true because he hadn't really earned it yet.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I get you want to put him in and you
want to make sure you're tailoring the offense around his
particular skill set. I understand that. But the guy's got
it and he's played sixteen games since he graduated high school. Right.
This is this is because what happened right after the
move was made. Erse puts out a tweet saying, sport
this move. Really, do you support it? Or did you say, hey,
let's make them the starting quarterback. I'm the owner of
the team. I want to start him.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If this tailor drama wasn't going on, everything would still
be fine, and maybe Richardson is still playing trying to
win the job, which he's going to win at some point.
It's just, hey, get a little bit more NFL life
in you. Before it happened.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
It does deprive us our minshew mania to start the season.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah we're all a.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Little less for that.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah yeah, but a week one with all of the
grandiose matchups and storylines as much as Richardson's starting is
is good and has some juice because we watched it, right,
We watched him in college and we saw some of
the high points. You know, you and I live in
the evenings here on Fox Sports Radio, and we saw
some of the low points where you know, there's there's
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a lot to the learning curve still to be had.
But the idea that Gardner Minshew would be back under
center for an NFL team in week one, I mean,
come on, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
I bet think you have to move on from that.
That's more, you know, that's more like it's more like
found money. You can't expect Gardner Minshew on the field.
If it does happen, great, but you can't expect it.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh no, no, no, And I never expected it. But
you know, hope's a dangerous thing, as we talk about
all the time Twitter.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
At how about a fresca Mike gets swollen dome Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlieb today. Now, another big
story out of football we promised to get to here
for a few min We'll get to the big brawl
between the Colts and the and the and the Eagles
coming up in a few minutes. But Jim Harbaugh is
now going to be suspended for the first three games
of the college football season. He saw the story yesterday.
(08:30):
They had been working on some sort of agreement with
the NCAA because of violations during the COVID dead period
of recruiting, and the University of Michigan likely decided, according
to experts, Pete Bamile of ESPN saying that, hey, they're
trying to throw themselves on the mercy of college football
by saying, listen, we're gonna suspend them for three games
here while you guys figure it out, so you go
(08:52):
light on us next year, meaning that it looked like
it could have been a really heavy suspension and Harball
would miss a great amount of time. It's gonna be
three games this year that he's not gonna really miss
because he's coming back to the beginning of the Big
Ten season when they play Rutgers. But I'll tell you this,
for every year we do this story. Every year at
the end of the college football year, it's is Jim
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Harbaugh gonna stay or is he gonna go to the NFL?
Every is he gonna stay, is he gonna go.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Remember all the loud Mounts saying they had to fire
him because he couldn't coach.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, he winds up getting more money or things. Things change,
And now Harbaugh is at the highest level he has
ever been at. He's got Michigan back to levels they
hadn't been at since Lloyd Carr was the head coach.
They're beating Ohio State year in and year out, and they're
beating them bad. They've been to the College Football Playoff twice.
And now this, on paper, is Harbaugh's best team. He's
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got a superstar quarterback, two superstar running backs. This is
the year for him to have another year like last year.
The stars are aligning for this to be his final
year in Michigan. Like, what's gonna happen after this year
when his running backs go to the NFL? Maybe JJ McCarthy,
he stays, Maybe he does. Who knows. It's all aligning
for him for this to be the year he makes
(10:05):
a jump because he's not gonna go through next year
dealing with a big long suspension. And we're not gonna
know this likely until after the college football season ends.
And if you're ever going to go now is the time,
coming off a big three year run where you look
like you're gonna have this kind of season. Look, Ohio
State still don't even know who their starting quarterback is
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going to be. They're split down the middle. This is
gonna be another Michigan year, at least on paper. So
if you're coming off of three years of beating Ohio
State three years in the College Football Playoff and not
knowing what's going to happen suspension wise, plus trying to
navigate a new Big ten that's gonna be the Big
twenty at some point, pat and depending on that, and
when you don't know how that's gonna affect recruiting, how
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that's gonna affect what you have to do nil wise,
now is the time for him to make that run
and say, you know what, college football is just getting
too tough suspension wise, figuring it out year to year
with nil and transfers. This is now time for me
to go back to the NFL. And there could be
big time openings this this year, after this year. Dallas
could be open, the Chargers could be open, the Rams
(11:08):
could be open. If you want to jump in for
Sean McVay, there could be some large openings there for him.
Everything seems to be aligning for this to be the
final year for Harbaugh, and then he jumps back to
the NFL, where he's extremely successful over a short period
of time before he went to Michigan.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, the curiosity is what's real, what's imagined in all
of this data, right, the recruiting stuff during COVID, some
just want to dismiss it and say, ah, whatever, it
was a different time and whatever. No, they put in
rules so if you had, everybody else has to play
by the rules.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
If you didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Uh, And it's proven beyond just a cheeseburger, because that's
the dopey thing that that it's been centered on from
a and and reduced to in the media side of things,
and something that the NCAA lawyers why they shouldn't have
been commenting they did, saying, hey, it's not just a cheeseburger,
like if there's if there's some gravitas there, you know,
(11:59):
it's the last throws of the NCAA, Right, they're losing
all their power, They've got nothing left. This is their
last grab. Look we got the guy from Michigan, right,
Look what they just did with Tennessee. Because that's that's
really what Michigan is banking on. Like, wait, they got
an eight million dollar fine for two hundred plus infractions,
two hundred plus eight million dollar fine, vacated wins.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Did they have to go and cut a check for
all those butts and seats and everything that was sold
at the home games or anything? They know, they basically
gave back the check they got for a Bowl game.
They got to keep everything else. Oh and because they cooperated,
here's the scholarship productions going forward to a year wood
be what a biting penalty. So that's what Michigan's open for. Hey,
(12:46):
we'll fall on it. There's three games, leave us alone
and go away. We're a national powerhouse. And that's exactly Look.
I know he is not contrite. He was at Big
ten media day, and Jim Harbaugh has never been a
guy that is appall gize for anything, which you have
to respect to a point. But in this case, if
you if you did something wrong and it's proven, well
(13:09):
that that's where the NCAA is trying to play gotcha.
Now you have him pairing up with Jerry Jones. Made
for us working in media sign them up for whatever
hard knocks equivalent we can get. Right now, two of
those guys getting after each other because it'll be a
great honeymoon period for about a month until they want
to choke each other out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But that month is gonna be awesome. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I mean, look, Jerry still won't put Jimmy Johnson in
the ring of honor.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah, but once in a while he'll go He'll go
big because he knows he can't just have a yes
man all the time. He went big with Parcels twenty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
That's a long time.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Every generate, but every generation, right we got in every generation.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Every generation blames the one before. I know, we're in
the living years.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Right now, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Gonna go get the hardball guy. Uh uh, And I'll
get either one. It doesn't matter. I'll tell you. Maybe
I could get both of them to come and coach
can like split the job. That'd be kind of funny,
do a little bit, because what is Jerry Jones like?
In addition, he likes headlines. He wants to win, and
he likes headlines. And does he make a lot of
headlines by hiring the next retread? Or does he make headlines.
(14:14):
Bringing Jim Harbaugh back to the NFL, and Harbaugh's my
guy and we talk all the time, boll. He loves
winning and he loves headlines, and Harbaugh brings both of them.
McCarthy doesn't really bring headlines. McCarthy brings the bit of
the yes man. Okay, because we don't talk about Mike McCarthy,
we don't talk. We talk about Dak. We talk about
Dak and Jerry Jones. And now now suddenly it would
(14:34):
be a bigger deal in America's team becomes a bigger
version of America's team. It's gonna be there the opening.
Everything is lining up for it to be there, for
Harbor to say one last year in ann Arbor and
then I'm headed to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You basically said bet the under on the Cowboys too.
That's really what I heard.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I really said. I don't know, did I really say it?
But did I really say that? But did I really
say exit? How about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlieb today coming up next. Yeah,
we have a wild story out of an NFL joint
practice day to get to punch is thrown, Guys getting
blind sided. It's insane. Keep it right here. This is
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Speaker 4 (15:33):
Four that sounds about right.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
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That's somebody starting college and graduating and not hearing a
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new Mic and Mechanics song.
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I had All I Need is a miracle. Now I
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a few years for the living years. Gotta wait, getta wait.
Crazy story out of joint practice today between the Eagles
and the Colts. It started during a play in which
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Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson had the ball punched out. Now,
in joint practice, we're seeing a lot of joint practice
in a lot of fights, which which is kind of
the theme of the next few minutes. We're seeing a
lot of fights. And this was precipitated by the fact
that one of the defensive players on the Eagles tried
to punch the ball out of Anthony Richards's hand because
(16:49):
he was close enough. Now, the rule is in joint
practices like this, when you get near the quarterback, you
don't hit him. That goes all the Nobody wants their
quarterback to get hurt.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Nobody gets no touching, swipe or no swiping, all of
those things.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
You leave Malone.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, the biggest controversy we had with this was last
week was where the joint practice between the Raiders and
the Rams where Stafford said after her, you know, Max
Crosby was getting like five yards away for being yelling
sack sack, sack stop. The play sack sack.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's about as animated as we've ever seen Matthew Stafford,
by the way.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But isn't that totally on brand for Max Crosby, Oh,
totally five yards away sack sack.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, I mean, especially after you watched quarterback and his
back and forth with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
Dude, don't punch me, dude, don't punch me. Don't punch me,
I said, don't punch me, Just don't punch me.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
To So, with thirty seven expletives thrown in there, bye, don't.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Touch me, I said, don't blank and punch me. Don't
bit the guy. Blanket, dude, blanket punch me, I said,
don't punch me. So the ball is punched out and
that precipitated a.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Little bit of a brew haha. But you know, everything
seemed to be all right until later on in the
joint practice where zai hear Franklin had a couple of
big hits on Kenneth Gainwell. Eagles running back Jason Kelsey
did not like it, ran down the field and decleted
Franklin with a blind side, cheap shot, and that sparked
(18:11):
a huge brawl. Now, Kelsey did take ownership of his
actions afterwards said it was a cheap shot. I let
my emotions get the better of me. That doesn't belong
out there in the field. I'm a little ashamed that
got to that level. Now Franklin said, hey, that's okay.
I'll get a chance to see him on, you know,
in our next game on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
So hey, all right, I love the line though, right,
And you have joint practices against other organizations. Sometimes your
speed ain't their speed. People get offended. That's life. That's
a T shirt.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Then it could be it could be your speed ain't
their speed. I can put that and put that on there.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
We're gonna work on that.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
That's like, that's like a no fear T shirt from
the nineties. That's like, asay, your speed ain't there's.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
Now harmon Smith, there's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ain't your speed. So this is what happened, and it
would look that the fight looked ugly from all accounts
and a couple of quick pits of video that have
been put out there. But look, why is this happening?
This has become an epidemic. Now every day there is
a report of a big fight at a joint practice
between teams and there's two reasons for it. There's one
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reason that that's pretty obvious and one that's so obvious
that people don't talk about. One is that it's not
quite as adjudicated as an NFL games. It's a lot
easier to get in a brawl because it's not the game.
It's you know, people run on the field when they
feel like they need to. You're talking about backing off. Yes,
there are referees there, but it's just not the same
(19:39):
atmosphere as an NFL game. It's not nearly as buttoned up.
It's much looser. It's easier for players to run out there.
Half of them aren't even in all of their pads,
and you see things like this because of that, because
it's not where hey, flags are flying and you're gonna
get suspended or you're gonna get kicked out of the game.
None of that is part of what goes on at
a joint practice, so it's easy for this to happen.
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The other part is, and I'm telling you, and I
know you can disagree with me on this, but it's hot,
and tempers flare with will get hot, and you're practicing
every single day in the heat and all that does
is make you mad, and it makes you madder than
you should and emotions get the best of you because
when you're hot, and you're really hot, this happens, all right,
(20:22):
it would kill teams to practice at night. Let's have
a joint practice at night. Why not. It's a little
bit cooler. We don't have to worry about stuff like
this as much. But it just gets hot, as it
is for everybody. Your temper rises quickly and much quicker
when you are really hot and sweating your you know what,
off than you are if you're in an air conditioned room,
or if you are in a much better atmosphere. Right, Like,
(20:44):
if I wanted to go if I was younger and
I wanted to go out and ask my mom or
my dad for a favor, you know, Hey, can I
go sleep over you know, Billy's house tonight. Am I
gonna talk to my dad about it when he's sitting
down reading the paper and having a coffee? Or Am
I gonna go out while he's digging a big hole
in the backyard the middle of the day because he's
moving my mom's garden. Hey, Dad, I know, wow, Hey
I go sleep it? Bill. He's like no, get out
(21:05):
here right now. Help me with this. You get out there.
You're not sleeping over anywhere. Oh, you gotta pick a
time of place right well.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
That's say you got to be smart about it and say, hey, Dad,
I can get you out of this heat really fast
if I give you an hour of my time right now.
And then while you're commiserating over moving the garden, then
you ask about going to see your guy Billy.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I would a bad job by you.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Digging out in the in the garden in the middle
of summer sounds this sounds awful. I'm not doing it.
It sounds as fun as Matt Damon running at the
end of air. It's stupid. I'm not doing this.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So that's true. It's true.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
But I'm just saying, right, you know, the greasy wheel
and all you know and all that stuff. But you know,
it's the the idea that it's hot out. Sure, and
we've done the temperature check. It's point one four degrees
per decade, so sure it's a little hotter. Look, you're
seeing guys in a different uniform. All the anks you
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may have because you've been getting beaten down by someone
on your squad.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
You can't take the shot at him. You can't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And particularly in a lot of those locker rooms, right
the sacred Cows. Even in this particular instance, you had,
you know, Franklin saying, well the OG's I would have
thought they would have at least either talked to me
or squared me up before doing that, you know, just
a bit of respect. But it's with a different team,
it's with a different different uniform, so you can take
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out some of those frustrations. So I think that's part
of it. And we've seen some of those canceled altogether
for this week as we get later on ahead of
the final preseason games.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But I'll take it to you.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean, plenty of great screenplays and circumstances in our
society take place where the heat is on. I mean,
I think of you know, do the right thing. You know,
part of the backstory is everybody's hot, everybody's agitated. It's
Richard Daly all my years ago in Chicago, trying to
figure out how they were gonna take care of the people.
He would get his exasperated, just say, it's hot, it's hot.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
But that moving it tonight? I don't know how much
you're dissipating. Sure, you're on that angst.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're completely getting rid of the potential of so many
other things.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So it goes from ninety five degrees to eighty eight, guys,
you're still gonna be pussy.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Or it goes from eighty eight. But the sun is
not out, You're not You're you're in more of an
atmosphere of what it's gonna be like playing.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's it's just I don't know, not in September. Not
too hot.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's happened. It's a little bit. It's a little bit,
it's a little bit cooler. And you also have it, uh,
you also have it adjudicated better because you're on the
field on Sunday and not on a sweaty practice field
where it's like, I've had enough of this practicing and
hitting every single day.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, then go and pay referees.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
The beginning the beginning of the regular season. Look, you're
not hitting, You're you're not having the big intensive practices
that you are now during.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, because they legislated that out because they wanted an
extra couple of days off, right, they gave up a
lot of other things for that.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, no, so that so that abates that, that that
abates itself, and then so that's why during the season
things are a little bit easier. But now it's hot,
and you're gonna get this happening. It's gonna do. It's
gonna happen next year and the year after the earth
because it's hot. And then that's what it's been in
the eighties. And you know, in Philadelphia all week. I
think the humidity level today was really big. I was
looking at the weather report before.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You're really obsessed with the it's hot, and these guys
can't control themselves. It's hot as if they're the It
takes away all rationale and reasoning from these highly trained
professional athletes.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
That suddenly it throws everything out the window.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It takes reason out of everybody. You could sit in
your house and make a big plan. What am I
gonna do today? Well, I gotta go to the grocery store.
I gotta pick up dry cleaning, I gotta go oh,
I gotta go pick up a birthday present. And then
I'm gonna go here. And then you walk out of
the house and oh my god, it's so hot, and
suddenly everything you planned is now out. But I mean
because all you do, you're overcome by the heat.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Well that's the Mike Tyson thing until you get punched
in the face, and certainly what do we say, Yeah,
the heat punched me in the face.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, and then you gotta come back plan B.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
That doesn't mean you're going hog wild like Holgamania in
the mid eighties and you're running rough house, pillared a
post and then looking from the crowd to get jacked up.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It means you're It means you're hotter. It means you're
you're more attuned to uh road rage, more tuned to
store rage by saying I'm not gonna buy this, this
is so much money?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Did you watch Law and Order earlier today? And that
was an excuse someone tried to use on Jack McCoy.
Is that what you're bringing up here?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I haven't watched Law and Order in a long time.
You still watch Law and.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Order all the time?
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Do you really?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I love it? Cherry Orbach?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Was Was that a big Was that a big plotline?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
It's been used before.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I mean there's been a lot of random excuses used
to try to get defendants off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Okay, all right, but I'm telling you, man, we deal
with Everybody deals with the heat, and we deal with
it differently, and we get miserable and our tempers rise
when it's hot. It's and it's it's no coincidence that. Hey,
when you're putting these players out there and they've had
all these other circumstances as well, practicing every single day.
Now they get to hit somebody new uniform, all of
these things. It's hot. It's what it is. It's hot.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
And to be fair, you know, as the the voice
of reason here at Fox Sports Radio, I pull it
back just.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Because you've dubbed yourself the voice of reason.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Well you know what yourself that No, I've been I've
been told that many many times.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Is something you've been told that once. I don't think
one time is that outside not one.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Thing to prove it, the idea of being that just
like when players get in trouble, whenever it's a small percentage. Likewise,
you got a lot of players that aren't going out
and brawling and losing their reason and rush rationality.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Uh, because it's hot outside, it's todd but.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Every day, but every day we're getting a store. Every
day it's happening.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
But every single day, Yeah, it's a little flare.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Up every single day Twitter, and how about a fresca
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Speaker 8 (26:51):
Want to pick a side, but I agree with both
of you.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
I do think the heat makes people angry, but I
also think you're a professional football players, so you got
to keep your act together.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We got to keep oposure.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
But I agree that I'm angry in the heat.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Let me tell you what would happen. Let me just
tell you what happened. So you you we're in a
nice air conditioned studio doing the show, right and hey,
you're here. We're having fun update stories. If the air
conditioner was broken and it was it was a balmy
eighty five in the room, your updates wouldn't be hot,
no sports yet.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
All the games might be a little shorter, right, I mean,
get him on, get him over, get him in, because
you know I want to get back to fanning myself.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
I'm not going to deny I probably would be short
and I'd probably would be annoyed.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's what they would be. And no games. I don't
know why I'm here. There's no games happening right now.
Now back to you, guys.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the i'd be short.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, yeah, you and I being vertically challenged months.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
You're not Ron Jason on how I would handle that.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
You're not wrong, You're on the money.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually, I think he's, you know, casting aspersions on you
and and calling you out.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But he's not wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
He's not wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Now, going to sit in my car with the air
conditioning affle side for my next update.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, he's got a swamp cooler going in the
update set.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
Well, you know the sun.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
The heat sucks.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
Guys, did you have a bay Buccaneers have named Baker
Mayfield's starting quarterback officially. Colts Rickey quarterback Anthony Richardson is
going to start Thursday's preseason finale against the Eagles. Jets
head coach Robert Sala thinks it's in the best interest
of the team to play Aaron Rodgers in their preseason
finale against the Giants, scene.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
He can't coach scared.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Even if it's hot outside.
Speaker 9 (28:35):
He can't coach scared.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I'm just starting Aaron Rode hurt because it's hot outside.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
It's too ot.
Speaker 9 (28:45):
Former Bears running back Tarik Cohen is trying to make
a comeback after missing the last two seasons dealing with
an ACL injury. This is per his agent, and even
though a PGA tour spokesperson has said that the tour
has not seen an increase in spectators attempting to distract
golfers for betting purposes, John Rahm said today that the
players hear about.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Gambling every single round, so more and more do they
hear it, basically because they said if you whisper, you
gonna hear it. And the NBA is finding James Harding
one hundred thousand dollars for you know, car calling Darryl
Mory a liar per saying that he's not going to
do his job unless he's traded.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I mean it is what it is. It's probably hot outside.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It was probably hot outside when he said it too hot.
Speaker 10 (29:26):
It was so so hot that he had her called
Daryl Morial I I was hot in China.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I had to make sure people heard it twice.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well, I mean it wasn't crowded, crowded gym that he
was working at. Yeah, I mean maybe maybe that's what
it was. Back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, he sold more than one hundred thousand dollars worth
of ever I saw that and everything right there didn't Yeah,
a lot of wine.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, James Harden saying, is it worth the five of
one hundred grand to say how badly I want out
of Philadelphia? Yes? Absolutely fun. Thanks a bunch of monch
appreciate it. Now. You heard Manzia before she got really
upset during the updow. You heard Manzi the update. There's
another big quarterback decision that was made. Tampa Bay has
named Baker Mayfield their starting quarterback over Kyle Trask. Todd
(30:08):
Bowles saying today he informed Kyle Trask first and then
told Baker Mayfield he was number one, and Baker says, great,
Now I gotta lead and do the things I normally
do and all of these things, And all I could
think of is that man, Tampa Bay really might be
able to pick first overall in the NFL draft, and
they really might be to the Baker Mayfield is not
(30:28):
any good. Okay, He's not. And you if you are
if you are Tampa Bay, what kind of year do
you really think you're gonna have it best? You know,
seven and ten following Tom Brady seven and ten, eight nine?
Is that really the best you're gonna get? Baker Mayfield
is not the number one pick? Right?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right? So, but all I can think of is what
do they do with Court? They could have gone out
and got somebody, could have got somebody you know good
to come in, but they decided, ah, let's go for
a band aid year with Baker Mayfield, who couldn't hold
on to the job when he got it in Carolina way,
and they said come in and save us because Sam
Darnold stinks, and not only could he not, he lost
(31:05):
the job midway through the season, didn't get it back.
He was no good. And now the Tampa Bay Buccaneers say, okay, well,
we can't really go into the year just with Kyle
Trask because people will think we're tanking. Let's go sign
Baker Mayfield and we'll come in and just kind of
do whatever we do and we'll tank to get up
there and maybe we picked number one. Overall, we get
Caleb Williams because Baker Mayfield is done he's not a
(31:25):
good quarterback. He had his peak with the Browns. He
fit with what they did really really well, but he
never took the next step up right. He came in.
The organization needed his personality, they needed his fire. They
got it great. He had a pretty good rookie year.
He got deep into the playoffs. The next year they
nearly upset the Kansasity Chiefs. But he never got to
that next level as a quarterback. And so when he
(31:47):
goes someplace else, he can't win the job and keep
it in Carolina, He's gonna go and do it and
win games here in Tampa. No, Tampa's on my short
list of teams that could be drafting number one overall
because even though that division is terrible, and that is
absolutely awful, the NFC South, it is absolutely awful. Tampa Bay.
Really they can make a run the number one overall pay.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
They've got enough players in that offense if they're healthy,
between Evans and Godwin and even at the running back
position Rashad White, You've got Jensen.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Back and Wherf's back.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I mean, you've got an offensive line that should be
able to keep him up right, I'm not saying he's
gonna be world beating, nor did I think that you
necessarily have that in Kyle Trask. We have no idea
what he is at this point, but I don't see
them being that bad to wear number one is gonna
be a potential here. Then they might might as well
not have spent any money on this at all, or
(32:41):
they should have just hired someone to help Baker go
find the twelve million that he's claiming his dad's companies
have mismanaged her or whatever going on.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
That's a whole other story. Then we got to watch
as it unfolds here and behind the scenes. But yeah,
Baker's a guy.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I'm just curious to see what we've got, you know,
just like your guy Sam Sam sam Off in San
Francisco might get an opportunity there, Sam Darnold, And you know,
still just twenty five with Baker Mayfield, former number one pick,
third team. Maybe maybe there's some stability here at least
with your wide receivers and the room that you're you're
(33:17):
getting ready to lead. Because you're telling me that was
the case in either Cleveland or in Carolina, I would say, no.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
You sound like do you sound like Baker Mayfield's agent.
You sound like his agent with what you're saying about it. Oh,
you can do this, you can do Yeah, Baker Mayfield
stinks and they could pick number one.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Well, Carolina's not gonna be very good.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, their defense is solid offensively, what you got New Orleans.
We've already talked about Derek Carr on paper. They're the
best team, right and then Atlanta good enough to be dangerous,
not good enough to really do much of anything. A
bunch of teams scrambling towards nine and eight.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
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Speaker 5 (34:11):
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Speaker 4 (35:01):
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Speaker 2 (35:05):
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Speaker 4 (35:07):
Time by what.
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dot Com.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
They wanted to get that first meaningful win for new
owner Josh Harris and Magic Johnson.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Let's go Sure.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Sure wanted to stop that streak at twenty four for
the Ravens. Look at this the best preseason game, the
biggest preseason game we've seen in years, because both teams
treated the final five minutes like it was the end
of a regular season. Let's go there.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Magic Johnson couldn't get to Twitter fast enough.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
They're calling timeouts there. The Ravens are blitzing the house.
The Commanders are just trying to get in field goal range.
Like none of it was that, Oh no, we don't
really care about it. No, that's a load of crap.
That's such a load of crap. The Ravens wanted to
keep that drive at twenty five games that they won
in a row, and the Commanders wanted to end it.
Just admit, Yes, it mattered a lot to you, and
(36:19):
it was fun. It was embarrassing that it mattered so much,
but it was fun. It was fun for us to watch.
It was like got an extra regular season game.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
The thing that kind of irked me though, there didn't
seem to be any kind of trophy handed out, like
a Floyd of Rosedale bronze pig that they have is
part of a you know, an Iowa battle and all
those things, the acts and everything they do in the
Big ten trophies seems like with the Ravens and Commanders
when they get together, there should have been a trophy
or something other than a Josh Harris handshake.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well no, no, Well here's a trophy, is that if
Washington wins, they hand over a complete copy of the
American President which took place in Washington. Baltimore hands over
the entire five series seasons of the Wire. So that's that.
That's where everybody gets the five seasons of the water.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, so available, now the play together away. I mean, look,
you know, but just one one thought of this before
you get to Aaron Rodgers. Just one thought of this
is that, you know, we can say that, hey, it's
not that big a deal the preseason streak twenty four
in a row, but you don't win twenty four games
in a row in the preseason by accident unless you're
trying to win, right. But now, how about this conversation.
(37:27):
Shouldn't the Ravens have been better the last few years?
Because aren't what they're what we're seeing is that their
second and third stringers are better than everybody else's second
and third stringers for the better part of a decade.
Shouldn't they have won more Hey, we're deep, right. We
always talk about that with Eves. Know they're deep, right,
They're deep. They come at you in waves like Robert
Sala wants to dress forty seven defensive lineman and a
(37:50):
quarterback for every game. That's what he wants to do. No,
and we talk about teams being deep and having u
and having depth. Yeah, I think maybe the Ravens should
have won more because clearly their second, third, and four
stringers were better than everybody else's and they haven't won more.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Yeah, we've kind of been saying that for a while.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I you know that that Super Bowl is a long
time ago, been traded on that in this winning.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Streak for a long time. Maybe Lamar play more than
twelve games this year and things will go the right way.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
He hasn't even had to play in the pre They've
still been winning these games. They don't think they've needed
him at all. They could have just gone whatever they
had were winning in the preseason winning the regular season.
Something is missing from that preseason formula, Mike Harmon, It
is missing from that formula that they can't carry over
to the regular season. Now.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
The wide receivers have been making plays in the preseason
and then they're not been healthy and available down the stretch.
As Dacosta's defiantly told you, I've been using first round
picks on wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Greatest preseason game in the last decade and biggest kick ever,
and you were there for it. You'll always were yesterday.
It's that day now, other dudes. Today, Robert Sala, Jets
head coach, was asked about playing Aaron rodg in the
final preseason game this weekend against the Giants. Maybe you
don't want your guy to get hurt, but Aaron Rodgers
needs the reps, and Sala explained today why he's gonna
(39:10):
put him out there on Saturday. You can't coach scared.
He can't play scared.
Speaker 12 (39:14):
You know you can. You can slip out of your
car and have something happened to you. But you know
we'll be in knock on what Everyone will be fine.
You know, you see some of the great ones out there.
You know, Ken City's playing their guys, Buffalo's playing their guys.
It's it's not uncommon.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
All the great ones, just like us, Kansas City, Buffalo.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
Trying to talk himself into that class. I like that.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But here, here, here's the thing. If he's not gonna
coach scared, I get it, they're not gonna play scared.
I get it. I will be the fan scared because
I'm I'm gonna be the entire game. I'm gonna be
just get him off the field because I've watched quarterbacks,
watch the Jets seasons get ruined because of injuries against
the Giants, whether it's Chad Pennington or Mark Sanchez. Yeah,
the Sanchez injury was tough because that gave us Gino Smith,
(39:57):
you know, back when he wasn't any good. So I'll
be there. I'll be the one scared. I'll be I'll
be watching the game. I'll be fanning scared on Saturday.
That'll be That's my trump. If he's there playing, I'm fanning.
I will be fanning scared on Saturday to get him
out as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I do like the movement of getting guys back and
getting some game reps, getting that rust off, and giving
us a little bit of a Lookxie. You know, I've
attributed some of it to the fact that we've got
sixteen new OC's, so you actually want to see them
call plays in live action. Whatever it does, We'll be
watching and waiting with baited breath to see if Aaron
Rodgers gets off the field unscathed, or whether Becton fails
(40:34):
in his task.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
He better have two good cats when he walks off
that field on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I'm telling you that I'm ready to donate one if
the price is right.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
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