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August 30, 2023 37 mins

Dan and Aaron in for Doug, as they discuss the report that the Packers were the mystery team trying to trade for Colts star running back Jonathan Taylor.  Dan and Aaron talk about why something feels amiss with this new college football season. The guys bring up the Angels' failures this month.  Plus, Monse Bolanos takes the guys through a game of "What Are The Chances?".

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
The Green Bay Packers are turning back the clock, but
in doing so, they are just skipping right past the
Aaron Rodgers era. We will explain in a matter of seconds.
It is that time. It is Wednesday, and midway comes
up in sixty minutes, and I'm gonna give away something
in a matter of seconds. But first, Aaron Torres, I
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She's hanging out today, as is Jason Stewart and John Ramos.
It is going to be a fun afternoon. Aaron, I
am glad to be with you, and before before we
get into the big news of the day and the

(01:02):
news surrounding the Green Bay Packers in Indianapolis Colts in
about twenty minutes or so, I'm gonna go to the
vending machine and I'm going to buy a beg of chips.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, that's big.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
This contest is gonna last twenty minutes. If you tweet
me at Twitter dot com or at x however you
want to put it, and you get the exact day
that these chips expire, I will send you a full
bag of ruffles. Wow, but you only have seventeen minutes

(01:33):
to now. Sweet in three twenty Eastern time twelve twenty
Pacific is the cutoff, So you have to get the
date of what it says on the Bega chips that
I'm going to purchase from the vending machine in about
twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
All right, So we need to give our listeners some
really quick context as we do have a lot of
football to get to and I don't want to throw
anybody here at Fox Sports Radio under the bus. But
are the bags traditionally like past their expert like, like,
are you gonna pull out something from twenty fourteen is
is what America one.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
No, but I have pulled out a bag that it
expired that day. It was kind of like a magical day,
like I felt like I won that day. It was
like July twenty third, and then it's like, hey, this
was the last day you could have gotten this. So
if if somebody gets it correct, heck, if multiple people
get the days correct, I will send multiple people bags

(02:28):
of rufflesh. That's that's the contest. But you only got
seventeen minutes.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I just want to make sure you weren't pulling out
something from like six years ago.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
No Oh, there was a time where I thought I
got a two year old soda from the liquor store
next door. But that was a completely different scenario. Okay,
the six looked like the eight looked like a six.
So it threw everything off. What also threw me off
today is that the mystery team in the Jonathan Taylor

(02:57):
sweepstakes that is speaking or I was speaking with the
Indianapolis Colts was not a team that needed a running back,
was not a team that lew was looking at depth
at the running back position. In fact, I think if
you would look around the NFL, this team would have
probably one of the more stable running back rooms right

(03:17):
now in the NFL. But it was the Green Bay
Packers with Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon, who are the
reported mystery team that had conversations with the Indianapolis Colts
about Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
So I have two quick thoughts on this, Dan, and
I don't want to steal all the wind from this segment.
So if you disagree or whatever, feel free, But one
am I crazy? I feel like it's one of two things.
Either Jordan Love maybe needs some more help than he
has because he isn't capable of doing it by himself,
or this is blatantly just trying to stick it to

(03:53):
Aaron Rodgers, because for years, what was the narrative, well,
free agents will come here, well this well that we
don't make Trey the draft. I mean, whatever the stat was.
I think it was the last ten drafts with Aaron Rodgers,
they only used one first round pick on an offensive player.
It was Jordan Love to replace Aaron Rodgers. And so
when I saw that, it was like, oh, okay, they

(04:14):
just they just really publicly just want to to embarrass
isn't the right word, but you know, you know somewhere
Aaron Rodgers is just stewing on his couch, like, where
were these trade work Where were these trade attempts when
I was the quarterback there in Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
So that was my first initial thought when I go.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think it's an interesting message that's being sent, and
I can understand why you would you would see it
that way, But it's not like Jonathan Taylor is a
great receiving threat, and I feel with Aaron Rodgers, who
was always about the wide receivers and the guys that
he threw the football to, Marcedes Lewis being like the
only first round pick that caught a touchdown pass from

(04:54):
Aaron Rodgers. I find what struck me about it was
Number one, I feel security blanket for Jordan Love, like
they are going to do everything possible that they can
to not have this all on the shoulders of their
young quarterback. And it also would be a move that
you would plan for the future and have Taylor stick around,

(05:18):
because if you're training for him, you're likely signing him
to the deal. And while I mentioned Aaron Jones and
AJ Dillon, Dylan's contract is expiring, Aaron Jones is getting
up in age. I think he's twenty nine years old,
so that's almost past the prime of a running back.
It makes sense in that way, but they are bending
over backwards. In fact, Aaron, they're bending over backwards so far.

(05:40):
They're bending back to nineteen eighty where acquiring running backs
was actually a thing in the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Like this is.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
The whole conversation over the last month has been the
value of running backs, and here Green Bay is doing
whatever they can to try to bring in another running
back when it seems like their running back room has
already said. That's what shocked me about it is that
I understand the Aaron Rodgers angle of it, but this
is a team that seems to be operating in the
nineteen eighties and wants to do everything that they can

(06:10):
to protect Jordan Love to show that they made the
right decision in letting Aaron Rodgers lead.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Well, it's interesting you reference that nineteen eighties was about
the last time that the Green Bay Packers didn't have
a Hall of Fame quarterbacks center, and so I think
that this speaks to that part. Now, I think it
speaks a little bit to you know, rub it and
Aaron Rodgers faith. Rub Aaron Rodgers, you know, knows in
the dirt on that one. But I also think that
it speaks to me about maybe Jordan.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Love really isn't ready.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Maybe all of the narratives that we've kind of made
up in our heads about why has any taken this
job and you know, why don't we know more, Why
haven't we seen good practice highlights? Why didn't he look
good in those limited starts when Aaron Rodgers was out
over the last couple of years. Maybe it is all true,
and maybe he does need help. And I think to
your point is that what it is, what is clear

(06:59):
is it's almost like a to a situation in Miami,
a justin field situation in Chicago, where it's like, we
need to find out if this guy is the guy,
and we need to do everything that we can to
put him in position to succeed. So I don't blame
the packers for making these decisions or attempting to make
this trade or looking into it. I also want to

(07:21):
blame Aaron Rodgers if he, like I said, if he
sees this come across his phone somewhere in New York
to be a little bit frustrated.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Who do you think leaked it? Because I think Green
Bay did.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, I think that the packers and the Packers, by
the way, are when you think of the names that
have been tied to Green Bay in years past, and
absolutely zero of those deals got done. Sure, Odell Beckham, Jumi, Yeah,
Brandon Cooks, how great would he look? I mean, there's

(07:52):
just name after name that could possibly come available. Hey
why not? Why not team up with Aaron Rodgers in
green Bay? Why not? Green Bay's always in on these guys. Sure,
but when it comes down to it, no deal can
be done. Now, the Colts asking Price, and the Miami
Herald reported what they were asking the Miami Dolphins. Wild

(08:13):
was the word that was used by the Miami Herald
and describing it. I think it was Barry Jackson who
had it, saying that Jalen Wattle was also one of
the pieces that the Colts wanted. Sure, and I just
I don't wouldn't want Dayly Wattle? Yeah, yeah, like you
can ask sure, but let's be realistic. And that's that's

(08:34):
the crazy part of it. So who leaks out that
the Dolphins were in on Jonathan Taylor but the Colts
were asking for Jalen Wattle, probably the Miami Dolphins who
is leaking that the green Bay Packers ended up being
the mystery team and all of this from what you said,
from what I said, it's gotta be green Bay. Like
it doesn't doesn't help the Colts to reveal who a

(08:55):
mystery team is. It seems like it's the message to
me getting out there that hey, this is what we're
doing green Bay. Maybe to your point sticking at the
Aaron Rodgers a little bit, as he's no longer there.
I think green Bay leaked it.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
So if you're green Bay, what is the benefit is it.
Is it publicly telling your fans, hey, this isn't a
rebuilding year. Is it publicly telling Jordan Love, Hey, we're
here to help you. What do you think it is?
From Green Bay's perspective.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
We're going to get into this later on. But with
the Angels doing what they did, sure, and the Angels
actually did these deals. Like if I was an Angels
fan and this stuff is happening at the time, I
was very excited. Green Bay. It tells you, hey, look
at our front office. Yeah, we're trying to improve the team. Yeah,

(09:42):
trying to go after these guys. This is what they're
that's the message that it is. Yeah, I think they're
not adding huge free agents, they're not signing guys to
big contracts. They're really building within and hoping their defense
can turn around for a year ago. But if you
could get the message out there that you are trying

(10:02):
to better your team, sure your fan base, say go
to Kunst is doing everything that he can, the floor
in him, working together, trying to get this thing done,
trying to get the big names. But they never get
a deal done. Like there's not like there's even when
Ted Thompson was alive and running the Packers' front office,
notorious for how they wouldn't sign free agents. Yep, and

(10:24):
this is this was the organization that as well made
the biggest free agent splash in NFL history when they
signed Reggie White, like like that that was that was
the biggest move. And then when you look at the
moves that they did make, Charles Woodson ends up becoming
a leader of their defense, leading them to a Super Bowl.
So they've been very judicious in picking and adding and

(10:45):
decigning on when to go in. But when fans complain
about you not signing anyone, you know what kind of
helps sue that is saying waited we exactly. Hey, look,
the Colts are asking for Jalen or Waddle from the Dolphin.
What do you think they wanted from us? Sure like that?
That also helps, and so that that I think Green Bay,

(11:08):
from their point of view, is trying to send that
message we are doing what we are trying to do. Now,
We're not gonna give you know away anything. And by
the way, if Aaron Jones is past his prime when
he hits that thirty age, if they don't resign aj Dillon,
it would make sense that you would want a running
back in there. Jonathan Taylor played collegiately at Wisconsin. Not

(11:28):
that there's a great familiarity Ones in Madison, Ones in
green Bay, but you would have a name that would
he would be embraced by the fans. Badger fans are
Packer fans. Packer fans are Badger fans. That all works.
You would need a running back for next year, in
the next couple of years for Jordan Love. But again
they just don't do the deal. So I I like it.
It fits more when you take a step back. At

(11:51):
the beginning, it didn't make a lot of sense, But
then Also, when you see how the front office operates,
it maybe shouldn't be that surprising.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Let me ask you one quick question as a PA
Packers fan, are you more excited that the fan that
that the front office appears to be making moves or
are you more concerned that the front office feels like
they have to make moves with the young quarterback?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
I don't want to, you know, inexperience with that.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
That's okay. I'm not a Packers fan, but I've grown
up in the state Seahawks fan. But it's okay. I
feel like I speak for my entire family when I
take I if I hear this, because I'm the glass
half empty, I'm saying to myself, Oh, what's wrong with
Jordan Love? Sure, and that's why I ask him, Yeah,
why aren't Why wait a second, why would we need

(12:36):
to sign Jonathan Taylor in two years? Can't we just
draft a fifth round running back? Because more is going
to be on the shoulder of Jordan Love next season
and the season after that and the season after that. Like,
that's that's what I would be saying. Sure, And I'm again,
I'm glass is half empty. The pessimist in me is
always there. With my teams hearing this. If I'm the

(13:01):
that's what I'm probably thinking. I think the Packer front
office thinks like they look like they're the Wheelers and
Dealers in on everything interesting.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, I think from the Packers' front office perspective, they're like, oh,
look at us, like you said, Wheeling and dealon, we care.
You know, we're coming back for another division title. But
if you're a fan, I don't. I certainly am the
last person to speak for a Packers fan, but my
first default was not look at the Packers trying to

(13:30):
show the world that they're being aggressive. It was they
have a pretty established running back. Is there something wrong
with Jordan Love that they need to get him all
this extra help? And then again defaulting back to the
two examples I used to earlier, is.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
He the guy?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Is he's not the guy?

Speaker 2 (13:45):
You know?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
The health is another deal? But you trade for Tyreek Hill,
you call about Jonathan Taylor because you want to know
is to before we give him the crazy contract?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Is to with the guy?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
The Bears are kind of doing the same with with
Justin Fields this year, and my default, as not a
Packers fan is maybe they're not totally sold that Jordan
Love can do it by himself.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
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Twitter dot com at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find
me at dan byer on Fox. That's also where you
can reach us. In our bag of chips expiration date game. Listen,
it's gonna expire in four minutes. Eron and I are
going to take a time out. I can see your
timestamp tweet. If you don't get it in by three

(14:29):
twenty Eastern time it says three twenty one, no good.
If it says three twenty, I'm gonna give it to you.
But if you nail the expiration date on the small
bag of chips, that is it's like the value pack.
That's what happens with the vending machine. Of course, they
go like to Costco or Sam's Club, they buy the
ninety six package thing of chips and then they put

(14:51):
it in our vending machine. If you guess the exact
date of the expiration date, and I'll put this up
on Twitter, I will send you a bag of t chips,
a full bag of chips, which, by the way, are
like five bucks. Now, by the way, that's the biggest
thing there are gas prices and potato chips were the
two shockers on how everything just costs more these days.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
I've had a few of those moments where it's like, oh,
a little thing of blueberries is eleven No, maybe not eleven,
but it's like nine bucks really for that many?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
For what?

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Eighty two blueberries?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, this is natural stuff, This is good. I could
just pick these myself.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
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Speaker 2 (15:37):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. He's aeron Torres.
I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is John Ramos,
Manzi Belanos. Did you guys all have guesses in your
head about what date was on the bag of chips
that I purchased? I know, I know. Mike Lingard, the
guy who doesn't run this place, has given his date
to Jason, So did Jason? And Gent? Did you guys

(15:58):
make picks on the date? I can't.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
I didn't write it down, but I can I participate, you.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Know, Yeah, why Monzi did Manzi's Manzi's got a date?

Speaker 6 (16:06):
I definitely get too all right, okay, yo, do I
need to give it to you now?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Are way till? Why don't you just write it down
and tell Jason right now? Okay, polls are closed. You
have the Torres has got his I did not look.
By the way, we do not have a winner via
social media. No one got it exactly correct. Someone was
within three days? Oh wow, Yes, someone was within three days,

(16:34):
Aaron Torres.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Your guest was August eleven, three, okay, so a few
weeks so to be three three weeks old. It's like
price is right. You just don't want to go over
you know anyway, Bonzi Milanos.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I'm going to say they expired yesterday.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Okay, so that would be August twenty ninth. Yes, Jason Stewart,
you have a couple of dates I have.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
I have a September fifth for me, September fifth. Do
you want you want ling guards right now? Yeah, the
twenty sixth of September. Twenty sixth of September, okay, John Ramos,
John Ramos is the fifteenth of September.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, fifteenth September fifteenth. One of you has gotten it
correct on the head. Wow, And any of you who
thought that I would eat a bag of month old chips.
I cannot believe.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, I didn't say you, I mean doesn't mean that
they were.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I thought you could still hear part of the chip
in my mouth. The date is September fifth, September twenty sixth. Wow,
whoa mid legardters won the con That is Mike Lingard
has has just won.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
You mean the one guy that had access to a
flash white and the actual vending machine to maybe to
look at the chip.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You're exactly right. You know what it was was like, Fred,
can you do your favorite? You go check the vending
machine and told me what date these ruffles are.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
I was gonna say, doesn't he do the ordering? If
he does, If he doesn't, he's like one degree of separation.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, he doesn't do the order. Storm down the hallway,
a solow, you're just joining us. We had a contest
on guessing the date that my chips expired. The last
time I think we were all together in studio. I
bought a bag and it was like on that day,
so I had to eat them in four hours. It's
a good thing there's only eight chips in those packages.
Here he is, uh, wait, turn on your mic. There
you are. You're good to go filtrating. Now you can't

(18:30):
hear Manci and Jason, but you can hear me and Aaron.
Here's big mic.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
Yeah, that is your accusations are completely unfounded. Wow, And
I in fact did not need a flashlight.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It was too like what he should have done is
done September twenty fifth. Then we definitely were Yeah, I'm
like I was the closest though way.

Speaker 9 (18:52):
Hey, but like I really thought you wouldn't know that
I was of course cheating.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Of course I was cheating.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So it's like when you're cheating somebody in school.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You can't you know, you can't get one hundred, can't
have every same, you have to you have to miss
one or two.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And we used to play this game on Fox Sports
Radio back when it was doing The J Moore Show.
John the J Moore Sports John was there and we
would have to You'd have to guess like five correct answers,
and Jay would do all of his characters and it
was all just about to laugh and have a good time,
and Big Mike could be like, no, I want to
get five for five. He would take the game so seriously,
so him actually cheating which he just admitted to. I

(19:28):
actually didn't think he cheated. I actually thought that he
just got lucky because that seems to happen. But he
did cheat.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
For the record, I get that way when we play
easy as one, two, three, So I mean, I can't
blame it for get fired up. If I miss one,
I'm day is a ruin.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I appreciate everybody who tweeted in and for those of
you Mike tweeted in March fourteenth, like what twenty twenty three?
Come on, Mike, give me some credit. You think I
gotta pay a buck twenty five for something? That's what? Guy?
Five months old? My goodness? All right, the college football

(20:04):
season is one week old. It's not even a one
week old because it's week zero. Yes, tomorrow start a
week one. You saw Florida great game to start off
the season. Last year's was awesome. Hopefully this year is
just as good. But it is a day, it is
a week that is a different feeling than other years.
And I think the college football season, Aaron as we

(20:25):
Aly from the Tirek dot Com Studios, has a weird
feeling to it, but it's not for the obvious reason
of the chaos that has gone on in realignment. I
think one of the reasons is, and it is a
bit realignment based, is it's the last hurrah. Yep, it's
the last hurrah in a lot of these places, and

(20:47):
so do you go out with a bang? Well, the
Big twelve can't wait to kick out Texas and Oklahoma.
Brett yor Mark's comments solidified that. I feel that the
Pac twelve is probably the same, but we're not gonna
see it like this again, and it's not nostalgic, it's
not like that. That could be a part of it.
That could be be a reason. There's another reason why

(21:08):
I think that that maybe more often the distance. But
I'm curious because you also, I don't know what you're
gonna say, but we both have said that and we're
both big college football fans, that that does have a
different feel entering the twenty twenty three campaign.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, I do think it's a lot of what you said,
is it. I don't think people fully First of all,
I don't think people fully realize how different we're gonna
consume and cover college football a year from now, Like
we're not gonna be talking about what's your four team
play like that's a conversation. Now, we're not gonna be like, Dan,
who you got in the eleven spot? You got Iowa
or you got I don't know Oregon. You know they're

(21:43):
they're right outside of the top, you know. Like, so
we're gonna talk about the sport differently. What I do
think feels different about this year. I think there's more
uncertainty at the top, which is what makes it feel
so uncertain. Like you're used to tuning in and Alabama's
a juggernaut. They don't know who their quarterback is and
they're playing in whatever seventy two hours. Georgia has a

(22:03):
quarterback that nobody's really seen play except for us at
the National Championship game because we were there, unfortunately, and
he played as a backup.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well I left early, so you probably saw him. I
was probably gone because it rained that night, lass.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
And we were in the last row of the press sceeding.
But that's neither here nor there. We'll talk to people
at so far later in Ohio State. I mean, you know,
you're a Buck guy. We don't know much about the quarterback.
They're kind of coming off back to back years where
they haven't quite lived up to expectations. I know they
almost beat George in the playoff, but like if even
if Ohio State or Alabama was coming off the traditional
season that we've come to expect and they had a

(22:36):
new quarterback, it'd be different than us having other questions
about them. But they also have the quarterback question. And
then you have the teams at the top, like a
Michigan that actually hasn't done it. So I think everybody
I think it feels weird because it really does feel
like this is the first time in a while that
it's like, if you don't think George is gonna make
history by three peating, then there's probably five, six, seven
teams that you can realistically say you think can win it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
We are really close because I'm like right there with you.
The difference that I feel because it's about what one
of the schools that he mentioned about both of the schools,
Georgia is the two time defending national champion, does not
carry the cachet of Alabama as a defending national champion,
and that to me is it's no disrespect. George will say, hey,
that's fine, we'll win the next three. Well, you know

(23:19):
the next four, you know, we'll have six in or
row whatever. That's totally fine. But as we stand right now,
where it is and where Nick Saban is, Nick Saban
the head coach ata if you know, there's a different
head coach at Alabama in a decade, maybe it's a
different feel, but because of his success, his tenure, what
he's done, it is a different feel when Alabama is

(23:40):
on top. I don't know. And in other years Aaron
I actually thought it was a bad thing. Sure, And
now you come into this year and you're and it's
kind of like, yeah, a lot of feels like a
lot of schools have a chance, like even of that
top five, you're wondering, all right, you know, I'm big
ten guy. Can Penn State make it in? Can Luke
Fickle in his first year in Wisconsin? Could they maybe
make it make a searche to get in? But it

(24:00):
truly is because it's Georgia at the top after winning
back to back national championships and not Alabama. That's the
biggest deal for me.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, I think in the past it's been a slam
dunk of like it's this team, it's that team. I
mean even last year George was coming off the national championship.
But if you remember, Alabama had the reigning Heisman Trophy winner,
their two best wide receivers got hurt in the National
championship game. He said, Well, now Bryce Young is coming
back with Will Anderson on the defense, Well, they're definitely
the team to beat. And then ever, this year it's

(24:30):
a combination of teams that the Alabama's in Ohio states
they have more questions than ever. But those teams that
you think are possibly capable of replacing them, Michigan hasn't
done it yet. They've won the Big Ten, but they
haven't won in the playoff. You know, LSU, they had
a nice run, but are they ready to take that
next step? Usc they're fun, but we saw the defense

(24:52):
last year, so you Clemson hasn't been on that level
that they haven't been on the level that they were
on for about a five six year period with Deshaun
Watson and Trevor Lawrence. So that to me is really
what I think it is, is that those two three
powers that for five, six, seven years you could count on,
they're not there. But those other schools outside of Georgia
really haven't stepped up and proven that they're actually capable

(25:14):
of it.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Well, they'll blow it in the eighth or ninth. That
seems to be the common theme. He's Aaron Torres, I'm
Dan Byer. We're in for Doug Gottlieb live from the
Tirereck dot Com Studios. Monzie cheers for the Dodgers. Do
you have a baseball team, Aaron, No, not really.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
I grew up a Red Sox fan, and I'm not
a huge baseball guy, and so, yeah, long story, Shark
grew up with the Red Sox. Then it felt like
kind of too cliche to be a Red Sox fan
there for a while after they started winning, and.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Then I moved to La.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I like going to Dodgers games, you know, And yeah,
that's a long answer to yeah, I basically have a team.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
They don't give him tickets to the Dodgers because he
won't go.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Oh, she gave me them and I didn't go.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
It was the night on the second time I told
you in advance, the first time I didn't tell her
at all, And it was the night Albert Poohole said
his seven hundred home.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It's aper bo because the Angels haven't showed up in
a month. That's that's what that's and that's where we
go with all of this. We'll get a ticket drama
later on in the show. I don't get why, and
maybe it's I applauded the Angels for going for it.
I applauded the Angels for saying, you know what we're
gonna We're gonna try to do this. We don't know

(26:25):
if we're gonna have sho he atani. I applauded them
like as a if I was an Angels fan. Maybe
I'm not loving giving up the prospects, but that's what
you want your team to do. And now that they've
fallen flat on their face, and I want to bring
in Jason Stewart and John Ramos because they are Dodger fans,
and it seems like you guys have really enjoyed this fault,

(26:46):
this fall from grace from the Angels as they now flounder.
And I think it's more than just the bet. I
feel it's more than just the bet that you have
with Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, I think.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
I mean, Doug being a fan has a lot to
do with us and join him. But I'm enjoying a
lot more than John is. John admittedly likes the Angels
as his second favorite team or something. I've always despised
the Angels. I grew up ten minutes from Anaheim Stadium.
I know a lot of Angel fans. I've just never
liked the way they ran their team. And when at
the deadline, when you were saying I applaud them for

(27:18):
going for it, I was saying, oh, good, they're gonna
do this, so when they fail, it's going to be
easier to laugh at them harder. So that's where I'm
at now. Dan, Yes, thirty years from now, Brody's kids
come to you and say, Grandpa, you lived during Shoheo Tawny,
greatest baseball player ever?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
What happened?

Speaker 8 (27:39):
And you're like, yeah, the Angels they had and they
never went to the playoffs. They was had a guy
and named Mike Trout. Oh and when it came time
to like maybe trade him because he wasn't coming back,
they didn't get one thing in return. In fact, they
gave away two of their three prospects that were worth
anything to get players that made them finish with the

(28:01):
worst record in August. You could tell that to your grandkids.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Damn, this is gonna be me in twenty fifty three,
where my chips expire. By the way, I think in
that year, I I just don't. And John, I thought,
actually that you were piling on the angels. Maybe you
were just continuing the story of right. What I said
was is I agreed with you. I give them a

(28:28):
lot of credit for going for it.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
The problem that I saw was I looked at the
schedule at the at the trade deadline or this is
one of John's big things, Okay, yeah, I looked at
their schedule. The next twenty five games were brutal. They
were brutal, and I said, they'd be lucky if they
go ten and fifteen. Well, they went seven and fifteen
or seven and seventeen. So I was if they had

(28:51):
a better schedule after that trading deadline, they probably could
have had a good chance to try to get back
in because they were only three games out of that
wildcard spot.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But man, that schedule was tough.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Man.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
They were playing some of the top teams in baseball,
and it showed how much.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Do you think though, that they were it, you know,
caught between a rock and a hard place. And Aaron,
I ask you this because you're impartial on this, yeah,
and because I feel like now, like I'm on the
angel side of things, how much is it that you
don't know if you're gonna have Otani? You have been
playing good baseball leading up to the deadline, like I
kind of if they didn't do anything, they would have

(29:29):
been roasted. Like how much do you think that they
were caught between a rock and a hard place and
making the decision to actually do the multiple deals that
they did.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
Well.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
I think also like the idea of not trading him
or the idea of trading him, and this goes back
to a month ago or whatever my stance was, I
think you shouldn't trade him because one, they were in
the mix at the time. Not to your point, they
went above and beyond to try and make themselves more
of a competitor. That didn't work out. But if you
trade show Aotani, there's essentially zero percent chance for getting

(29:59):
aim back, where if you don't trade them that chance
is above zero. And he's a guy that's never been
motivated by money whatever. So I had no problem with
him with them sticking with him neither, And then I
had no problem with with them trying to get into
the playoffs because at the time he didn't have the
elbow injury. So you have a front line starter, you
have the best, you know, one of the best hitters
in baseball. If you get in anything could happen. I

(30:21):
had no problem with it, although obviously it did not
work out.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I do think it's a tip of the cap to
John though, just to be based in reality, and maybe
that's where I'm in fantasy world. Maybe like like the
Packers are trying to convince their fans, look what we're doing.
I'm like, hey, like there are they're going after it.
Hey bring it in to John's point, they had a
murderer's row of what they were dealing with. So maybe
the good baseball that they were playing inflated by the
opponents that they had to play leading up to that

(30:45):
point when the schedule got a lot more difficult. But uh,
yeah it is. It has been Listen. We don't praise
the Angels a lot, if at all, but there is
the last twenty four hours, it's just been a it's
been a per raid at the Little League team is
driven over the Angels, but that one that one the

(31:06):
world's here. Everybody is just running over this team crazy.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Doug
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Speaker 2 (31:18):
By the way, the Angels did blow that lead, So
that did happen? Doug gotlig Show on Fox Sports Radio,
Doug's Angels having a tough time. He's erin Torres. I'm
Dan Byer sitting in for Doug. Today's We are live
from the Tairaq dot com studios. At this time, we
like to play a game and Monzi's got one.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
This is game time game on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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What's going on, Manzy?

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Well it is Wednesday, right, So what are we playing? John?
What are the what are the chances? You two are
going to tell me? What are the chances on certain
scenarios happening in the great and wonderful world of sports?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I got one to actually start off?

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Which one?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
What are the chances, Manzi, that Aaron goes to a
game that you give tickets to.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Him, oh, clearly minus.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
So the first time I did just pull the no show,
no call, and he wasn't going to tell me.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
And it yeah, and then Albert Poole said it's seven
hundred home run and I was like, oh, I kind
of so I.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Asked, oh my god, how was it?

Speaker 7 (32:30):
And he's like, I didn't go.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And then the second time I had a buddy who
bailed on me at the last minute. I called the head.
She was able to give the tickets to win. I
think Kershaw did something crazy. He got like his two
hundred Feeah.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:41):
Both games that I had tickets for him were big
games and he didn't go.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I could have seen were they actual physical tickets or
was it just the digital? It was digital, okay, because
if it was the physical like that, that could be
some memorabilia. Right.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Yeah, No, I don't do that anything.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Then I told anybody do it.

Speaker 7 (32:57):
They don't do it anymore, which is so annoying.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, you want the I do think the real.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
Physical ticket, yes, exactly. All right, guys, let's go, let's
earn the NFL. What are the chances that this is
Jonathan Taylor's final season with the Colts.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I'm gonna say ninety four percent, and I'm just I'm
leaving the door open a little bit. I don't think
that Jonathan Taylor will get the franchise tag. I don't
think this is a deal about. Even if they don't
trade him, the possibility of him sticking around to the organization,
I just think is very slim. So I'm saying ninety

(33:34):
four percent, and I don't think they'd want to pay
him ten to eleven twelve million dollars to play next year
after what's gone down this year.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I'll say a little bit lower. I'll say fifty one percent.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yeah, And the reason being rookie quarterback, rookie deal who
very much could need some help depending on what we
saw on whatever it was Thursday or Friday against Philadelphia.
And oh, by the way, the fifty four percent completion
percentage last year in college, Anthony Richardson is going to
need help.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
I don't know if they let him walk up.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
But you're saying after this season, yeah, okay, yes, it
plays this year or after this year?

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Yeah yeah, okay, all right, Well he's back at practice today,
but what are the chances Joe Burrows starts Week one?

Speaker 4 (34:16):
You want to take this, I'd say like close to
one hundred percent. I don't think he's missing week one.
I mean, I know whatever, but if he's at practice,
if he's ready to go, he'll be fine.

Speaker 7 (34:26):
For week Yeah, he was fully suited up today.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Exactly ninety eight or ninety nine percent.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say like ninety nine point nine.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
What are the chances Trey Lance takes a snap in
a game this season?

Speaker 4 (34:44):
I mean a snap versus a snaps A starter is
a different thing. I mean if they're just.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
At a snap snap. So I'm saying ninety six point
three the rock, So ninety six point three percent.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Okay, I was gonna say like eighty five percent. Yes,
I think get some point they're winning by a lot
or losing by a lot, and he gets, they get
to see what they have and he gets.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
Okay, all right, okay, all right. What are the chances
that USC star Caleb Williams wins a second straight Heisman Trophy.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I think it's going to be difficulty. I'm going to
say twelve percent, one less than his number. Oh, I
don't sit in the fence on one of the chances.

Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I think it's going to be very difficult. I think
the numbers are going to be there. I just history
tells you it's difficult to happen.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, I was gonna say like twenty percent, but I
think even twenty percent might be a little bit high.
We talked about on my Saturday show. You basically have
to exceed the numbers that you put up last year
while also winning at the same level or more. I
think the schedule is much tougher in the back half.
I don't buy the defense, and people say, oh, you know,
they were just it was basically an exhibition game, like

(35:59):
the defense did not look good. It was a regular
season game that mattered. I don't think they're better as
a team this year, so because of it, I don't
think he will win another HUTS.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
All right, well, let's go back to the Angels. Sho
hee Otani is still playing. Angels are playing just for
funzies at this point, but he's still playing. What are
the chances that show Hey stays with the Angels past
this season.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's a that's a two percent milk. That's too poch.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I disagree. I will say thirty Okay.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
I don't think it's great, but the guy's not motivated
by money, and I agree he could have taken more
money when he got here. He could have taken more money,
I believe, by staying in Japan for another year or
two some somehow the contract would have worked out where
he could have been like an unrestricted free agent or whatever.
He's not motivated by money. We know there's certain markets
he doesn't want to play in, and he's fighting to

(36:53):
the deadline.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
So I say, all right, well guys, that's game time.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Game This is game time on The Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
By the way, those Angels are threatening in the ninth
against the Phillies, and uh yeah, so we could maybe
see some excitement with the Angels at some point. He's
in and toorized. I'm Dan Byer. It's the Golib The
Gottlieb Show, Live from the Tirec dot Com Studios. It's
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