September 6, 2023 • 30 mins
Doug dishes on the remarks made by USC quarterback Caleb Williams and his father about the NFL Draft and whether or not Williams will enter the draft next year. Doug responds to Lavar Arrington's take about Sean Payton. Doug chooses among deserving candidates for who is most annoying today. Plus, Doug gives out his "Pick Of The Day".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, listen, this is the Doug Gottli Show. Heres
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What up Doug? On the bone is Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in Jase do alongside, so
is John Ramos and uh, guys, I want to start
the pod with We talked about this in the radio show,
but we can get a little bit deeper into it. Okay,
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I saw this is an article in GQ magazine. Okay.
Carl Williams is the father of Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams
is a returning Heisman Trophy winner and as of now,
very likely to be the number one overall pick in
this upcoming year's NFL Draft, regardless of the leap that
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the NFL approaches. This is from the GQ magazine article.
Williams and his father are beginning to realize there's some
thing counterintuitive about the NFL draft. Quote. This is from
Caleb Williams. I've always been able to choose what team
I've played on. Then everything's been scheduled for me. But
now going into the next part of my career, it's
weird because it's so uncertain. You don't know anything. You
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can't control anything but you and how you act. And honestly,
the weirdest part for me is the uncertainty. But he
does have some control. The article goes on his father
Carl knows what it is. Caleb can skip the twenty
twenty four draft if he doesn't want to play for
the team with the first pick. Quote. The funky part
about the NFL draft process is he'd almost always be
better off not being drafted first. The system is completely backwards.
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The way the system is constructed, you go to the
worst possible situation, the worst possible team, the worst possible
organization in the league, because of their desire for parody,
gets the first picked. So it's the gift and the curse.
The caveat, as Carl Williams said, is that Caleb gets
two shots at the apple. It's not a good situation.
Truth is he can come back to school. Yeah he could,
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but he won't. This is so far afield from reality,
it's freakin' comical, right, But like, let's let's kind of
go back through it first. This idea of hey, I
don't want to play for I want to pick where
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I go to school is a very very h I
want to. I want to pick who I play for.
I've always gotten to do that. There's lots of things
you get to do as a kid you don't get
to do as an adult. Right. I never had to
do laundry as a kid. I just didn't. Man Magically,
the laundry fairy came in and it was done. I
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didn't have to pay bills as a kid, didn't have
to pay taxes as a kid. I've never had to
pay taxes before. Now you do right on everything, on everything,
and in the NFL system, which is collectively bargained upon,
you do not get to pick where you go. And
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while people want to point out Eli Manning and John Elway,
the truth is that I've been doing this for twenty years.
I've heard the argument time and again. And that's what
was said to Joe Burrow. I know you're from Ohio.
I know you like the Bengals. I know you want
to be the hometown kid. But the Bengals are cheap.
They're not gonna be competitive, They're into difficult division, they
don't have a good offensive line, their defensive embarrassment, they're
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not well coached. They're not going to pay for a
big time coach, don't do it. How's that worked out well?
Joe Burrow, At some point in time, either this off season,
before the season starts, or next year, he's going to
sign a gigantic contract extension to be with the Bengals.
They've been to a Super Bowl, been to an AFC
Championship game, and are one of the favorites to reach
the Super Bowl yet again coming out of a very
difficult AFC. The Buffalo Bill's had the longest streak of
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missing the playoffs now. Tyrod Taylor initially took them to the playoffs,
but they've been in quarterback purgatory. They'd been a terrible
for fotball team, and what changed They got draft Josh Allen.
I'd heard it before about the Chargers, My Chargers with
Justin Herbert. You don't want to go there. They're cheap,
they don't have nobody cares, they don't have a great organization.
You know, the idea that they're cheap. They've paid Derwin James,
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they paid Joey Bosa, they paid Justin Herbert, They've paid
Keenan Allen, They've paid Mike Williams, They've paid plenty of guys.
They have a loaded roster and all of that. And
even if you want to pick out maybe if this
is the Arizona Cardinals, it's like, look for Kyler Murray.
If we want to say that didn't work. The fact
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is that up until last year, and of course Kyler
Murray towards acl last year, they had actually gotten better.
Every year they'd reached the playoffs. And oh yeah, by
the way, in an effort to make it work for
Kyler Murray, they hired a guy who had known him
since high school, ran offense he ran when he was
in college. They did everything in their power to make
it work. It just they weren't overall good enough, well
maybe well coached enough, and Kyler got hurt, Flkins got
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hurt there before, they didn't have their number one threat
in the playoffs, and then he was suspended to start
the next year and they never got off the ground
and running. And oh yeah, by the way, all they
did was give Kyler Murray a contract before they needed to.
And he's got generational wealth. So this is one of
those feelings way before facts argument. It's and it's it's
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like lacks any sort of recent data. Well you could
say the thing and saying with Trevor Lawrence, right, Trevor
LL's a man Jacksonville. They're not gonna stay in Jacksonville.
You can't win there. First year was a disaster with
Urban Meyer. Last year they won a playoff game, their
favorite to win their division. They'll be in the playoffs
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this year. So all of that is a complete and
utter bullshit argument. And like the fact that we feed
it and go like, yeah, you're gonna wat you should
never really think about, like what are we doing? And
if we just take the idea of going back to school,
like that sounds great. Has he ever met Matt Barkley
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or no Matt Barkley story, And I'll grant you Kayleb.
Williams looks to be a much better prospect than Matt Barkley.
But some people thought Matt Barkley be the number one pick,
definitely a top ten pick. And though Matt Barkley, by
the way, still he's still in the league. I think,
complete nondescript career because of where he was drafted, you know,
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And if you want to blame the number one overall
pick on an organization, have at it, have at it.
But the fact is that, you know, I mean David Carr,
maybe right. Remember David Carr was the number one pick
of the Houston Texans, and part of it was, you know,
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the Houston Texans. They lost Tony Biselli before he ever
played for the Texas. Tony BISSELLI was the top tackle
in football. The Jacksonville Jaguars didn't protect him. He gets
drafted in the expansion draft by the Texans, so he
never plays. I don't believe he ever played a down
for the Houston Texans. And Derek Carr ends up being
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sacked more than any quarterback in football. Never recovers these ghosts.
But I don't know if Derek Carr would have been good,
would not have been good. That's like the only guy,
Like we're gonna blame JaMarcus Russell on the Raiders. No,
JaMarcus Russell was a mess, and that's why he was
a mess. Go through the NFL drafts and you tell
me the number one overall picks who have failed, Like,
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go ahead, you can go through it, you know, I
mean if you if you want to, you can go there.
Like JaMarcus Russell number one overall, David Carr. Those two
guys clearly failed. But at number one and Sam Bradford
didn't fail. He made the playoffs right away. He kept
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getting hurt. Jameis Winston is with Jameis Winston, a failure
because of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No so much so.
The second he left they won a Super Bowl. So
I don't it lacks any sort of recent substance. It's
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a feelings more than facts. And oh yeah, by the way,
the downside, the other part of the downside to not
coming out that no one else has mentioned yet is
what every agent will tell you is go to the
league as quickly as you can because it starts the
clock on your second contract, and that's where you make
generational wealth. It's a really bad, uninformed argument that makes
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you sound like a child when you go. You know,
I've always gotten to pick where I get to play,
not in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
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Speaker 2 (09:07):
I say this is Dan Patrick and JJ Watt had
this exchange about Travis Hunter possibly being a two way
player in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Can you see that happening, like you played some tight
end when you first went to college and then you know,
became an edge rusher. But could you do double duty
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You could definitely do it sparingly. There's no way you
can do it full time. I mean, he's an incredible athlete.
What he did on Saturday is incredible. We'll be fascinated
to see how they manage it throughout the season. I mean,
he's an incredible athlete. He's young. He certainly can handle
that workload. He proved it or the course of the season.
It's very difficult. I mean he's probably twenty one years old,
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so you can do a lot more things when you're
twenty one than when you're thirty one. But at the
NFL level, with just the intensity, with the speed, with
the also the knowledge, the things that you have to
study and know. But if anybody's going to do it, it's
going to be somebody coached by Dion, a guy who
did it, a guy who understands the rigors of it,
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a guy who understands how difficult it can be. But
it's hard. I mean, if you're going to do it
full time, I just think about the film study that
you have to do on one side of the ball.
Now you multiply it to the other side. The practice
reps that you need at each to be to grow
and to get better at each. But man, it would
be fascinating. I mean, what he did on Saturday was incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I think we all agree with that. It was
truly incredible what he did on Saturday. And we've seen
it more at the college level, we've seen it in
bits and pieces of the pro level. I also think that,
you know, one of the things that's important to mention
and TCU's coaching staff, Sonny Dyke's mentioned it where he's like, look,
we're we're out of shape and this guy's playing every
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play like conditioning is as gigantic a part of sport
as anything else in But the likelihood of a full
time two way players is not great. And I'd be
interested to see which he was better at and which
would be his focus. Right, one would think wide receiver
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would be that that would be the go to position.
And oh yeah, by the way, I guess here's the
question is is there as much film study when it's
wide receiver and defensive back. Granted, you have to know
the formations and the tendencies and whatever when you're defensive back,
but as a wide receiver, don't you. I guess it's
looking at somebody's defense different. I don't know. I don't
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know if it's more concise in terms of film study.
It's just what your body can put up with. And
one thing that should be mentioned is Colorado actually gets
the benefit of training in altitude, and so every road
game is going to be easier for them. Home games
would be easier for them. Do I think he can
play both ways in the NFL? Of course, I'm with
JJ though the idea of doing it full time. At
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some point, you body, I mean, even Shohio Tani's body
has said Nomas. Here's Braddy Queen Leavar Arrington talking about
Sean Payton's comments towards Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Why do you think all this stuff is becoming public?
Like Sean Payton obviously is letting this stuff get out there.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He worked in the media for a year.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He clearly understands the media how it works, and when
he says things how things are going to hit people.
I'm just curious, do you think he wants all of
this to be known?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I do.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think he wants it to be some of the
things that are getting like.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Like, yeah, I think why would you want or need
all of this to be known?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
I think that's a great question, and I don't know
what the why of it is, but I could take
a stab at this one in particular.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, he had time to.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Monitor and see the situation in Denver for what it
was as as a form or coach, but also as
an active media member. And I think in a way,
when you do things like this, you're actually freeing Russell
Wilson from a lot of the negative energy that's probably
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been coming his way. For some strange reason, Russell Wilson
has become so easy to target and malign.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh. I definitely think Sean Payton is doing this on purpose.
I think he's trying to he's playing to the fans,
he's playing to the media, but he's also accurate. I like,
nobody cares about all those silly statements you're making and
unlimited and whatever. Just win football games and people automatically
like you, Ma. I think he's right, but I think
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he's making a point, and I think it's a point
of control. He wants to be the guy that fixes
Russell Wilson. He wants to be the guy who's in
control of the situation. All those things are completely understandable,
maybe even say normal in this particular situation. This is
Colin Cowherd talking about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I saw Jalen Hurts go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes,
the best quarterback some believe, I do, probably by a
long shot, and he went toe to toe with him.
I can't recall a cowboy win when Dak outperformed an
elite quarterback in his prime. I know, I know he
outperformed Tom Brady last year, Tom's forty six. When I
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see Jalen Hurts, I see precision, I see playmaking, I
see pressure player. When I see Dak, I see a
regressing pocket passer who needs a lot of help. Again,
in two or three months, we may very well be
saying Jalen Hurts is a top five quarterback. I don't
know if it happens, I think it's possible. Do you
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think in two or three months we'd be saying that
about Dak Prescott. I like the Ringer and Bill Simmons,
But in you know world, do I watch NFL football
on Sundays? Thursdays or Mondays, watch Jalen Hurts and Dak.
I think Dak is better at what pre snap stuff.
Maybe I don't know. I'm not in the helmet. Jalen
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Hurts is better than Dak Prescott. I don't even think
there's an argument.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh, I definitely think there's an argument. I think if
you go back and look at the Super Bowl, there
was a couple of fifty to fifty balls and he
had AJ Brown and the Chiefs did not. That was
not the Chiefs didn't have an elite level defense. And
if you look at the struggles of Jalen Hurts, for
example in the NFC Championship game against the Vanta defense,
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it's a little bit different. Jalen Hurts is better than
anybody would have thought. There's just and he has the
leadership and people think he's improving, and he's a likability factor,
no question. You know, Dak did have number one offense
in football going back two years ago. I've never been
a he's a great quarterback guy, but we've reached the
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point to where now we're massively underselling him. Didn't have
a good playoff game when they when when they lost, inarguable,
I cannot argue with that at all. On the other hand,
it has to be pointed out that in the Super
Bowl Jalen Hurst was very fortunate with who he played
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against and who he was playing with. It doesn't mean
that he performed poorly. But some of the plays were
because of scheming, and some of it was because he
just had better dudes to go up and make plays.
And some of it was he played well, some was
he played well. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart, Now.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's your annoy.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Le?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Yeah, oh man, where do I start today? Let's go
with this this one. Everyone's playing it, so my take
on this might be a little bit different. Aaron Rodgers
on the finale of Hard Knocks told this story about
a UFO.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.
I was making my way to bed, and I had
like a five am wake up, and I was getting
down to bed. I heard this alarm and distance going
off and it just didn't seem like normal. When I
heard some rustling downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.
A beautiful night. Steve and his brother and I walked
outside and up in the clouds, you know, we heard
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this sound and he saw this tremendously large object moving
through the sky and it was like a scene out
of Independence Day when thes are coming into the atmosphere
and they're creating this like kind of explosion type fire
in the sky. We just saw this incredibly large object.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
And so bottom line is he had a he witnessed
a UFO. Now we have seen many accounts in recent
months of people seeing fine objects. We had someone testify
in front of Congress that the government is has a
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department that has secrets about unidentified fine objects. It's almost
that was a weird news day, right, somebody came out
and confirmed that there are aliens, and then we just
went about our business. It was almost like nothing, nothing,
I guess, piques our interest in this new cycle anymore.
But Aaron Rodgers tells that story and then on Twitter
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social media, if you hate Aaron Rodgers and you hate
him for this being a conspiracists or whatever, what does
it called conspirat or whatever it's called conspiracist theory anti
vax guy. Then this was just another way to call
him crazy, like his story and him believing in UFOs
is somehow like yep, say told you this guy's a nutcase.
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Like no, I think that his witness account is shared
by probably thousands of people, and the government, uh is
probably take you got you gotta stuy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Have you ever seen the interactive map of UFO sightings?
Interactive what map of UFO sightings?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Oh, I'm sure it's plentiful.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
In the United States, Yes, like literally nowhere there. There
are other UFO sightings around the world, but they pale
in comparison to the volume from the United States.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
So the UFOs love America, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Either the UFOs love America or we are so incredibly
fucked up that will believe anything that the government says
isn't true in an effort to just make the government
look like liars. And look, I'm somebody who I believe
that there has to be somewhere in this universe a
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form of intelligent life. But you know, again, go look
at the UFO sightings maps and the volume of them
from the United States. It's like comical, It's like, dude,
what is going on? The only thing we have more
of than UFO sidings in comparison to the world is obesity.
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Those are the two things that we have we have
cornered the market on.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You mean Kazakhstan is not seen any UFOs in the
last week.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Remarkably, people who don't know about conspiracy theories know nothing
about UFOs.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
So are you guys both dismissing the fact that we
have by far the most funded and advanced technological military
system in the world, So of course we'll probably detect
more things as a country than other countries.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But that's not a UFO citing by the naked eye
of normal cities.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
No, no, But I'm referencing that guy that that testified in
front of Congress that the government is aware of UFOs
and has a department dedicated to suppressing that information.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That was Remember that that was that was his That
was his assertion. That was his assertion. Yes, right, It
doesn't mean that's what happened, that's what that's No.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
No, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying there are UFOs.
I'm not saying that there aren't. My issue is that
if you're going to pick something to call Aaron Rodgers
a nutcase about, this is not one of them. There
are thousands of accounts of this. He's just one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
But if you hate it, Rogers are going to use
it as as a reason.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Oh yeah, this has nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers.
This has to do with with UFO siding. Guy, How
how else could you explain the incredible volume of UFO
sightings our technology? That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
I mean, is anyone as advanced than us and technology
nothing other than China?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And China has nothing to do what what what technology
led Aaron Rodgers to telling that story.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
No, this, this isn't an Aaron Rodgers thing you just
said three seconds ago. This isn't about Anon Rodgers. This
is about the UFOs and.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I understand, but but but I'm talking about UFO sightings.
We live in a country that has ten x to
one hundred x the UFO sightings of any other country
on the planet. Why do we think that is?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Oh, I have no idea. This is the first don't
about that. You don't have any The only guess that
I can think of is that we are more technically
advanced than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, we are completely fucked up anybody else.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
We spend like ten times more on our military than
the next country, China, So we have the technology to
detect things.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wait, who's talking about poop anyway?
Speaker 8 (23:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Who else is annoying you?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Anthony rend Down? Oh yeah, I guess recently he was.
He was asked for a status on his injury, because
you know, he hasn't played since Juai fourth, and he
his response to the reporter was no oblass Inglis today, Yes,
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Glas today today. The annoying part isn't that he's always injured.
The annoying part isn't that the Angels gave him a
whole lot of money to not play. The annoying part
is his attitude about it. He's taken this, this tact
with the media and as an extension, this tack towards
the fans that he doesn't give a shit. This it
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runs contrary to to you know, sports and athleticism.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I could not possibly agree with you anymore, you know,
couldn't agree with you anymore. I mean, he's the worst.
This is the worst signing in the history of the sport.
Not just because he's been injured hasn't lived up to
it Angels had plenty of that, but because he's an asshole. Right,
if you're hurt, you're really hurt. You're like, dude, look,
I know how it looks. I feel terrible. I don't
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want to collect a check for something I'm not doing
like it's it stinks, you know. But I'm hurt, I'm
legit injured. But he's just an asshole. Yeah, he's annoying
any other ones.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
This is the week that everybody in our business.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh I love I hate this week too. I know
what it's going to be without even know what you're
talking about. But go ahead.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Any one of the platform in our industry thinks they
need to go on record and predict the Super Bowl winner,
predict the MVPs, predict the playoff teams.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Despite the fact they have zero. No one has any
idea what it's going on.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
It's become white noise, and I'm guessing it's become white
noise to the viewers and listeners. But it's something about
the arrogance of the people that give opinions in our
business that they think we care what they think and nobody,
and you'd think that last year would be a great
I guess cautionary tale, not one person, and you know what,
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I'm not going to use extreme language. Most people thought
the Broncos were a playoff team. Most people didn't think
the Giants were a playoff team. Most people didn't think
Jalen Hurts would come a few votes away from minning
the MVP.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, they thought Jalen Hurts would be replaced by correct
whoever the Eagles selected in the draft.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
So you'd think that would be a cautionary tale to like,
none of us know anything, and maybe we should talk
about what has happened and not about what will happen.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'm with you, it's super annoying that we feel the
need to make predictions about shit. I think the college
predictions are worse because you know so much less, But
either way it's it's bad.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
So I guess the theory would be from you, Jason,
is that I'd rather hear Doug's opinion about what has
happened and how it can affect a future the next
game as opposed to who's going to win seventeen or
twenty games down the road.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
It's like if you if you get if you give
eight minutes to let's let's talk about our super Bowl picks,
you're basically just mailing it in. It's just white noise.
There's there's no substance behind that. Okay, talk about what
has happened?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
So who do I? Who do I get? Who do I?
This is a hard call. Who's the most annoying? Huhm,
tough one? Rendon is so annoying? What are you annoyed
with with Aaron Rodgers? With the people not believing the
story or.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
No, the people that use this story as a way
to call him just some kook, some cook that, well.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's definitely on brand. Yeah, it's definitely on brand, right,
I don't think any would dispute it. It's on brand
that if you want to pick out a guy who's
going to go conspiracy theorist on on UFOs in the NFL,
he would be top five on anybody's list. But that's
not nearly as annoying, and people using that against him
as annoying, but not nearly as annoying as as Rendon
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and his defiance over his ridiculously awful output after his contract.
But Prediction week I think is the most annoying. That
shit is just annoying, right, Like, uh, okay, I haven't
seen any of these two teams play yet, but I'm
gonna pick these two to reach the super Bowl. And
you only bring it back up when you're right. That's
literally it you're doing.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Because we can?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Hey, Doug, yep, we talked about this on the radio
show The channehere Jones saying is is is really funny.
But he did have this for reporters as they were
covering his charity thing today. Everybody got on the right
opinions are like buttholes, Doug, everyone's got one and they
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all STINKU.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, it's true, and it's a saying that I've heard previously. Well,
I love it. I love it, completely love it.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
And it's the kind of potty humor we just can't
use over broad.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Right, No, it's it's it's spectacular, It truly is truly.
We play that for you because we can. Let's get
to our pick of the day. Okay, sir, the bet
is to you.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So we gave you. We gave you the Thursday night
football pick yesterday and that was because Travis Kelcey just
tweaked his knee, and because we still don't think Chris
Jonones is gonna play. At the time, Kansas City was
a six point favorite. They're now four and a half
point favorite. I would still go all in on Detroit,
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even though I don't have a ton of faith Detroit
wins the game. On the other hand, I look at
Sunday's games, and Pittsburgh is gonna play the San Francisco
forty nine Ers. It's in San francisc It's in Pittsburgh,
ecuse me, And it appears more and more likely Nick
Bosa won't play. The Niners are a shell of their
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normal selves without Nick Bosa. Pittsburgh's an underdog at home.
Give me the Steelers right now. You can get it.
You can get two points as well. Give me the
Steelers plus two add home. That's my pick of the day.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
What up Doug? On the bone is Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in Jase do alongside, so
is John Ramos and uh, guys, I want to start
the pod with We talked about this in the radio show,
but we can get a little bit deeper into it. Okay,
(00:33):
I saw this is an article in GQ magazine. Okay.
Carl Williams is the father of Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams
is a returning Heisman Trophy winner and as of now,
very likely to be the number one overall pick in
this upcoming year's NFL Draft, regardless of the leap that
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the NFL approaches. This is from the GQ magazine article.
Williams and his father are beginning to realize there's some
thing counterintuitive about the NFL draft. Quote. This is from
Caleb Williams. I've always been able to choose what team
I've played on. Then everything's been scheduled for me. But
now going into the next part of my career, it's
weird because it's so uncertain. You don't know anything. You
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can't control anything but you and how you act. And honestly,
the weirdest part for me is the uncertainty. But he
does have some control. The article goes on his father
Carl knows what it is. Caleb can skip the twenty
twenty four draft if he doesn't want to play for
the team with the first pick. Quote. The funky part
about the NFL draft process is he'd almost always be
better off not being drafted first. The system is completely backwards.
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The way the system is constructed, you go to the
worst possible situation, the worst possible team, the worst possible
organization in the league, because of their desire for parody,
gets the first picked. So it's the gift and the curse.
The caveat, as Carl Williams said, is that Caleb gets
two shots at the apple. It's not a good situation.
Truth is he can come back to school. Yeah he could,
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but he won't. This is so far afield from reality,
it's freakin' comical, right, But like, let's let's kind of
go back through it first. This idea of hey, I
don't want to play for I want to pick where
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I go to school is a very very h I
want to. I want to pick who I play for.
I've always gotten to do that. There's lots of things
you get to do as a kid you don't get
to do as an adult. Right. I never had to
do laundry as a kid. I just didn't. Man Magically,
the laundry fairy came in and it was done. I
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didn't have to pay bills as a kid, didn't have
to pay taxes as a kid. I've never had to
pay taxes before. Now you do right on everything, on everything,
and in the NFL system, which is collectively bargained upon,
you do not get to pick where you go. And
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while people want to point out Eli Manning and John Elway,
the truth is that I've been doing this for twenty years.
I've heard the argument time and again. And that's what
was said to Joe Burrow. I know you're from Ohio.
I know you like the Bengals. I know you want
to be the hometown kid. But the Bengals are cheap.
They're not gonna be competitive, They're into difficult division, they
don't have a good offensive line, their defensive embarrassment, they're
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not well coached. They're not going to pay for a
big time coach, don't do it. How's that worked out well?
Joe Burrow, At some point in time, either this off season,
before the season starts, or next year, he's going to
sign a gigantic contract extension to be with the Bengals.
They've been to a Super Bowl, been to an AFC
Championship game, and are one of the favorites to reach
the Super Bowl yet again coming out of a very
difficult AFC. The Buffalo Bill's had the longest streak of
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missing the playoffs now. Tyrod Taylor initially took them to the playoffs,
but they've been in quarterback purgatory. They'd been a terrible
for fotball team, and what changed They got draft Josh Allen.
I'd heard it before about the Chargers, My Chargers with
Justin Herbert. You don't want to go there. They're cheap,
they don't have nobody cares, they don't have a great organization.
You know, the idea that they're cheap. They've paid Derwin James,
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they paid Joey Bosa, they paid Justin Herbert, They've paid
Keenan Allen, They've paid Mike Williams, They've paid plenty of guys.
They have a loaded roster and all of that. And
even if you want to pick out maybe if this
is the Arizona Cardinals, it's like, look for Kyler Murray.
If we want to say that didn't work. The fact
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is that up until last year, and of course Kyler
Murray towards acl last year, they had actually gotten better.
Every year they'd reached the playoffs. And oh yeah, by
the way, in an effort to make it work for
Kyler Murray, they hired a guy who had known him
since high school, ran offense he ran when he was
in college. They did everything in their power to make
it work. It just they weren't overall good enough, well
maybe well coached enough, and Kyler got hurt, Flkins got
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hurt there before, they didn't have their number one threat
in the playoffs, and then he was suspended to start
the next year and they never got off the ground
and running. And oh yeah, by the way, all they
did was give Kyler Murray a contract before they needed to.
And he's got generational wealth. So this is one of
those feelings way before facts argument. It's and it's it's
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like lacks any sort of recent data. Well you could
say the thing and saying with Trevor Lawrence, right, Trevor
LL's a man Jacksonville. They're not gonna stay in Jacksonville.
You can't win there. First year was a disaster with
Urban Meyer. Last year they won a playoff game, their
favorite to win their division. They'll be in the playoffs
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this year. So all of that is a complete and
utter bullshit argument. And like the fact that we feed
it and go like, yeah, you're gonna wat you should
never really think about, like what are we doing? And
if we just take the idea of going back to school,
like that sounds great. Has he ever met Matt Barkley
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or no Matt Barkley story, And I'll grant you Kayleb.
Williams looks to be a much better prospect than Matt Barkley.
But some people thought Matt Barkley be the number one pick,
definitely a top ten pick. And though Matt Barkley, by
the way, still he's still in the league. I think,
complete nondescript career because of where he was drafted, you know,
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And if you want to blame the number one overall
pick on an organization, have at it, have at it.
But the fact is that, you know, I mean David Carr,
maybe right. Remember David Carr was the number one pick
of the Houston Texans, and part of it was, you know,
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the Houston Texans. They lost Tony Biselli before he ever
played for the Texas. Tony BISSELLI was the top tackle
in football. The Jacksonville Jaguars didn't protect him. He gets
drafted in the expansion draft by the Texans, so he
never plays. I don't believe he ever played a down
for the Houston Texans. And Derek Carr ends up being
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sacked more than any quarterback in football. Never recovers these ghosts.
But I don't know if Derek Carr would have been good,
would not have been good. That's like the only guy,
Like we're gonna blame JaMarcus Russell on the Raiders. No,
JaMarcus Russell was a mess, and that's why he was
a mess. Go through the NFL drafts and you tell
me the number one overall picks who have failed, Like,
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go ahead, you can go through it, you know, I
mean if you if you want to, you can go there.
Like JaMarcus Russell number one overall, David Carr. Those two
guys clearly failed. But at number one and Sam Bradford
didn't fail. He made the playoffs right away. He kept
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getting hurt. Jameis Winston is with Jameis Winston, a failure
because of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. No so much so.
The second he left they won a Super Bowl. So
I don't it lacks any sort of recent substance. It's
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a feelings more than facts. And oh yeah, by the way,
the downside, the other part of the downside to not
coming out that no one else has mentioned yet is
what every agent will tell you is go to the
league as quickly as you can because it starts the
clock on your second contract, and that's where you make
generational wealth. It's a really bad, uninformed argument that makes
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you sound like a child when you go. You know,
I've always gotten to pick where I get to play,
not in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
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Fox set and now.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I say this is Dan Patrick and JJ Watt had
this exchange about Travis Hunter possibly being a two way
player in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Can you see that happening, like you played some tight
end when you first went to college and then you know,
became an edge rusher. But could you do double duty
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You could definitely do it sparingly. There's no way you
can do it full time. I mean, he's an incredible athlete.
What he did on Saturday is incredible. We'll be fascinated
to see how they manage it throughout the season. I mean,
he's an incredible athlete. He's young. He certainly can handle
that workload. He proved it or the course of the season.
It's very difficult. I mean he's probably twenty one years old,
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so you can do a lot more things when you're
twenty one than when you're thirty one. But at the
NFL level, with just the intensity, with the speed, with
the also the knowledge, the things that you have to
study and know. But if anybody's going to do it, it's
going to be somebody coached by Dion, a guy who
did it, a guy who understands the rigors of it,
(10:10):
a guy who understands how difficult it can be. But
it's hard. I mean, if you're going to do it
full time, I just think about the film study that
you have to do on one side of the ball.
Now you multiply it to the other side. The practice
reps that you need at each to be to grow
and to get better at each. But man, it would
be fascinating. I mean, what he did on Saturday was incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh I think we all agree with that. It was
truly incredible what he did on Saturday. And we've seen
it more at the college level, we've seen it in
bits and pieces of the pro level. I also think that,
you know, one of the things that's important to mention
and TCU's coaching staff, Sonny Dyke's mentioned it where he's like, look,
we're we're out of shape and this guy's playing every
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play like conditioning is as gigantic a part of sport
as anything else in But the likelihood of a full
time two way players is not great. And I'd be
interested to see which he was better at and which
would be his focus. Right, one would think wide receiver
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would be that that would be the go to position.
And oh yeah, by the way, I guess here's the
question is is there as much film study when it's
wide receiver and defensive back. Granted, you have to know
the formations and the tendencies and whatever when you're defensive back,
but as a wide receiver, don't you. I guess it's
looking at somebody's defense different. I don't know. I don't
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know if it's more concise in terms of film study.
It's just what your body can put up with. And
one thing that should be mentioned is Colorado actually gets
the benefit of training in altitude, and so every road
game is going to be easier for them. Home games
would be easier for them. Do I think he can
play both ways in the NFL? Of course, I'm with
JJ though the idea of doing it full time. At
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some point, you body, I mean, even Shohio Tani's body
has said Nomas. Here's Braddy Queen Leavar Arrington talking about
Sean Payton's comments towards Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Why do you think all this stuff is becoming public?
Like Sean Payton obviously is letting this stuff get out there.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
He worked in the media for a year.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
He clearly understands the media how it works, and when
he says things how things are going to hit people.
I'm just curious, do you think he wants all of
this to be known?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I do.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
I think he wants it to be some of the
things that are getting like.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Like, yeah, I think why would you want or need
all of this to be known?
Speaker 6 (12:38):
I think that's a great question, and I don't know
what the why of it is, but I could take
a stab at this one in particular.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I mean, he had time to.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Monitor and see the situation in Denver for what it
was as as a form or coach, but also as
an active media member. And I think in a way,
when you do things like this, you're actually freeing Russell
Wilson from a lot of the negative energy that's probably
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been coming his way. For some strange reason, Russell Wilson
has become so easy to target and malign.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh. I definitely think Sean Payton is doing this on purpose.
I think he's trying to he's playing to the fans,
he's playing to the media, but he's also accurate. I like,
nobody cares about all those silly statements you're making and
unlimited and whatever. Just win football games and people automatically
like you, Ma. I think he's right, but I think
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he's making a point, and I think it's a point
of control. He wants to be the guy that fixes
Russell Wilson. He wants to be the guy who's in
control of the situation. All those things are completely understandable,
maybe even say normal in this particular situation. This is
Colin Cowherd talking about Dak Prescott.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
I saw Jalen Hurts go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes,
the best quarterback some believe, I do, probably by a
long shot, and he went toe to toe with him.
I can't recall a cowboy win when Dak outperformed an
elite quarterback in his prime. I know, I know he
outperformed Tom Brady last year, Tom's forty six. When I
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see Jalen Hurts, I see precision, I see playmaking, I
see pressure player. When I see Dak, I see a
regressing pocket passer who needs a lot of help. Again,
in two or three months, we may very well be
saying Jalen Hurts is a top five quarterback. I don't
know if it happens, I think it's possible. Do you
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think in two or three months we'd be saying that
about Dak Prescott. I like the Ringer and Bill Simmons,
But in you know world, do I watch NFL football
on Sundays? Thursdays or Mondays, watch Jalen Hurts and Dak.
I think Dak is better at what pre snap stuff.
Maybe I don't know. I'm not in the helmet. Jalen
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Hurts is better than Dak Prescott. I don't even think
there's an argument.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh, I definitely think there's an argument. I think if
you go back and look at the Super Bowl, there
was a couple of fifty to fifty balls and he
had AJ Brown and the Chiefs did not. That was
not the Chiefs didn't have an elite level defense. And
if you look at the struggles of Jalen Hurts, for
example in the NFC Championship game against the Vanta defense,
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it's a little bit different. Jalen Hurts is better than
anybody would have thought. There's just and he has the
leadership and people think he's improving, and he's a likability factor,
no question. You know, Dak did have number one offense
in football going back two years ago. I've never been
a he's a great quarterback guy, but we've reached the
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point to where now we're massively underselling him. Didn't have
a good playoff game when they when when they lost, inarguable,
I cannot argue with that at all. On the other hand,
it has to be pointed out that in the Super
Bowl Jalen Hurst was very fortunate with who he played
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against and who he was playing with. It doesn't mean
that he performed poorly. But some of the plays were
because of scheming, and some of it was because he
just had better dudes to go up and make plays.
And some of it was he played well, some was
he played well. That's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
What does the FO say? Be sure to catch live
editions of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm
Eastern noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Let's find out who or what's annoying Jason Stewart, Now.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's your annoy.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Le?
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Yeah, oh man, where do I start today? Let's go
with this this one. Everyone's playing it, so my take
on this might be a little bit different. Aaron Rodgers
on the finale of Hard Knocks told this story about
a UFO.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
We had this great dinner at his house in Jersey.
I was making my way to bed, and I had
like a five am wake up, and I was getting
down to bed. I heard this alarm and distance going
off and it just didn't seem like normal. When I
heard some rustling downstairs, so I got up, walked downstairs.
A beautiful night. Steve and his brother and I walked
outside and up in the clouds, you know, we heard
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this sound and he saw this tremendously large object moving
through the sky and it was like a scene out
of Independence Day when thes are coming into the atmosphere
and they're creating this like kind of explosion type fire
in the sky. We just saw this incredibly large object.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
And so bottom line is he had a he witnessed
a UFO. Now we have seen many accounts in recent
months of people seeing fine objects. We had someone testify
in front of Congress that the government is has a
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department that has secrets about unidentified fine objects. It's almost
that was a weird news day, right, somebody came out
and confirmed that there are aliens, and then we just
went about our business. It was almost like nothing, nothing,
I guess, piques our interest in this new cycle anymore.
But Aaron Rodgers tells that story and then on Twitter
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social media, if you hate Aaron Rodgers and you hate
him for this being a conspiracists or whatever, what does
it called conspirat or whatever it's called conspiracist theory anti
vax guy. Then this was just another way to call
him crazy, like his story and him believing in UFOs
is somehow like yep, say told you this guy's a nutcase.
(19:18):
Like no, I think that his witness account is shared
by probably thousands of people, and the government, uh is
probably take you got you gotta stuy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Have you ever seen the interactive map of UFO sightings?
Interactive what map of UFO sightings?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
Oh, I'm sure it's plentiful.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
In the United States, Yes, like literally nowhere there. There
are other UFO sightings around the world, but they pale
in comparison to the volume from the United States.
Speaker 10 (19:55):
So the UFOs love America, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Either the UFOs love America or we are so incredibly
fucked up that will believe anything that the government says
isn't true in an effort to just make the government
look like liars. And look, I'm somebody who I believe
that there has to be somewhere in this universe a
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form of intelligent life. But you know, again, go look
at the UFO sightings maps and the volume of them
from the United States. It's like comical, It's like, dude,
what is going on? The only thing we have more
of than UFO sidings in comparison to the world is obesity.
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Those are the two things that we have we have
cornered the market on.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You mean Kazakhstan is not seen any UFOs in the
last week.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 8 (20:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Remarkably, people who don't know about conspiracy theories know nothing
about UFOs.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
So are you guys both dismissing the fact that we
have by far the most funded and advanced technological military
system in the world, So of course we'll probably detect
more things as a country than other countries.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But that's not a UFO citing by the naked eye
of normal cities.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
No, no, But I'm referencing that guy that that testified in
front of Congress that the government is aware of UFOs
and has a department dedicated to suppressing that information.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That was Remember that that was that was his That
was his assertion. That was his assertion. Yes, right, It
doesn't mean that's what happened, that's what that's No.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
No, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying there are UFOs.
I'm not saying that there aren't. My issue is that
if you're going to pick something to call Aaron Rodgers
a nutcase about, this is not one of them. There
are thousands of accounts of this. He's just one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
But if you hate it, Rogers are going to use
it as as a reason.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Oh yeah, this has nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers.
This has to do with with UFO siding. Guy, How
how else could you explain the incredible volume of UFO
sightings our technology? That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
I mean, is anyone as advanced than us and technology
nothing other than China?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And China has nothing to do what what what technology
led Aaron Rodgers to telling that story.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
No, this, this isn't an Aaron Rodgers thing you just
said three seconds ago. This isn't about Anon Rodgers. This
is about the UFOs and.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I understand, but but but I'm talking about UFO sightings.
We live in a country that has ten x to
one hundred x the UFO sightings of any other country
on the planet. Why do we think that is?
Speaker 8 (22:53):
Oh, I have no idea. This is the first don't
about that. You don't have any The only guess that
I can think of is that we are more technically
advanced than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
No, we are completely fucked up anybody else.
Speaker 8 (23:05):
We spend like ten times more on our military than
the next country, China, So we have the technology to
detect things.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Wait, who's talking about poop anyway?
Speaker 8 (23:21):
All right?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Who else is annoying you?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Anthony rend Down? Oh yeah, I guess recently he was.
He was asked for a status on his injury, because
you know, he hasn't played since Juai fourth, and he
his response to the reporter was no oblass Inglis today, Yes,
(23:47):
Glas today today. The annoying part isn't that he's always injured.
The annoying part isn't that the Angels gave him a
whole lot of money to not play. The annoying part
is his attitude about it. He's taken this, this tact
with the media and as an extension, this tack towards
the fans that he doesn't give a shit. This it
(24:11):
runs contrary to to you know, sports and athleticism.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I could not possibly agree with you anymore, you know,
couldn't agree with you anymore. I mean, he's the worst.
This is the worst signing in the history of the sport.
Not just because he's been injured hasn't lived up to
it Angels had plenty of that, but because he's an asshole. Right,
if you're hurt, you're really hurt. You're like, dude, look,
I know how it looks. I feel terrible. I don't
(24:38):
want to collect a check for something I'm not doing
like it's it stinks, you know. But I'm hurt, I'm
legit injured. But he's just an asshole. Yeah, he's annoying
any other ones.
Speaker 8 (24:49):
This is the week that everybody in our business.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh I love I hate this week too. I know
what it's going to be without even know what you're
talking about. But go ahead.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Any one of the platform in our industry thinks they
need to go on record and predict the Super Bowl winner,
predict the MVPs, predict the playoff teams.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Despite the fact they have zero. No one has any
idea what it's going on.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
It's become white noise, and I'm guessing it's become white
noise to the viewers and listeners. But it's something about
the arrogance of the people that give opinions in our
business that they think we care what they think and nobody,
and you'd think that last year would be a great
I guess cautionary tale, not one person, and you know what,
(25:36):
I'm not going to use extreme language. Most people thought
the Broncos were a playoff team. Most people didn't think
the Giants were a playoff team. Most people didn't think
Jalen Hurts would come a few votes away from minning
the MVP.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
No, they thought Jalen Hurts would be replaced by correct
whoever the Eagles selected in the draft.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
So you'd think that would be a cautionary tale to like,
none of us know anything, and maybe we should talk
about what has happened and not about what will happen.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'm with you, it's super annoying that we feel the
need to make predictions about shit. I think the college
predictions are worse because you know so much less, But
either way it's it's bad.
Speaker 10 (26:22):
So I guess the theory would be from you, Jason,
is that I'd rather hear Doug's opinion about what has
happened and how it can affect a future the next
game as opposed to who's going to win seventeen or
twenty games down the road.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
It's like if you if you get if you give
eight minutes to let's let's talk about our super Bowl picks,
you're basically just mailing it in. It's just white noise.
There's there's no substance behind that. Okay, talk about what
has happened?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
So who do I? Who do I get? Who do I?
This is a hard call. Who's the most annoying? Huhm,
tough one? Rendon is so annoying? What are you annoyed
with with Aaron Rodgers? With the people not believing the
story or.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
No, the people that use this story as a way
to call him just some kook, some cook that, well.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's definitely on brand. Yeah, it's definitely on brand, right,
I don't think any would dispute it. It's on brand
that if you want to pick out a guy who's
going to go conspiracy theorist on on UFOs in the NFL,
he would be top five on anybody's list. But that's
not nearly as annoying, and people using that against him
as annoying, but not nearly as annoying as as Rendon
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and his defiance over his ridiculously awful output after his contract.
But Prediction week I think is the most annoying. That
shit is just annoying, right, Like, uh, okay, I haven't
seen any of these two teams play yet, but I'm
gonna pick these two to reach the super Bowl. And
you only bring it back up when you're right. That's
literally it you're doing.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Why are we doing this?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Why do I.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Because we can?
Speaker 8 (28:10):
Hey, Doug, yep, we talked about this on the radio
show The channehere Jones saying is is is really funny.
But he did have this for reporters as they were
covering his charity thing today. Everybody got on the right
opinions are like buttholes, Doug, everyone's got one and they
(28:31):
all STINKU.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Well, it's true, and it's a saying that I've heard previously. Well,
I love it. I love it, completely love it.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
And it's the kind of potty humor we just can't
use over broad.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Right, No, it's it's it's spectacular, It truly is truly.
We play that for you because we can. Let's get
to our pick of the day. Okay, sir, the bet
is to you.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
It's time for the pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
So we gave you. We gave you the Thursday night
football pick yesterday and that was because Travis Kelcey just
tweaked his knee, and because we still don't think Chris
Jonones is gonna play. At the time, Kansas City was
a six point favorite. They're now four and a half
point favorite. I would still go all in on Detroit,
(29:28):
even though I don't have a ton of faith Detroit
wins the game. On the other hand, I look at
Sunday's games, and Pittsburgh is gonna play the San Francisco
forty nine Ers. It's in San francisc It's in Pittsburgh,
ecuse me, And it appears more and more likely Nick
Bosa won't play. The Niners are a shell of their
(29:50):
normal selves without Nick Bosa. Pittsburgh's an underdog at home.
Give me the Steelers right now. You can get it.
You can get two points as well. Give me the
Steelers plus two add home. That's my pick of the day.
That's it for the In the Bonus podcast, check out
the radio show it follows this on the iHeart iHeart
(30:11):
what is it called the iHeartRadio app? And of course
wherever you download podcast. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is all ball.
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. This is in the
Bonus
Host
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