April 12, 2024 • 42 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Dan Patrick Show: Doug and Dan weigh in on Kentucky's new hire at head coach as they are closing in on Mark Pope to take the reigns.
Doug addresses Kentucky fans before he and Dan talk about the reaction to the passing of OJ Simpson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in Hope. You're doing great. Dan Buyer's
alongside my man Jason Stewart. And uh, it is a Friday,
a golf Friday, where we're well, you know, watching the
(00:25):
second round of the Masters, reacting the first round the Masters.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We still have some uh some o.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
J Simpson, I guess to discuss whether or not he's
worthy of the discussion or not. And then we have
a coaching hiring of PayPal levels?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is that? PayPal levels? Is that what I gotta say there?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I'm I'm good with that. Okay, Hey doing Dan, I'm great, Doug,
I'm great. Masters first round, wrapping up, second round has
already begune. So you've got this converging of rounds at Augusta.
So yeah, that's a great day. It is a good day.
It is a good day. White smoking Lexington.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
White smoking Lexington. So Mark Pope is going to be
the new head coach of Big Blue Nation. And if
you're sitting there going like, who in the hell is
Mark Pope Kentucky? People actually know who Mark Pope is
because he played at Kentucky, started his current at University Washington,
transferred in and played for Rick Patino at Kentucky, part
(01:30):
of one of their national championship teams under Patino. And
he's been the head coach at Utah Valley State and
by U and just this year he took BYU to
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So there's a there's a lot to unpack there, right,
because you sit there going like, wait a second. First,
they were talking about Dan Hurley, who just won back
to back national titles. Then they were talking about Billy
Donovan who won back to back national titles, was the
last guy to do it before Dan Hurley. They're talking
about Scott Drew who won a national title and as
is a top twenty program year in year out of Bailey.
(02:10):
And now you talk about Mark Pope, I've never heard
of before. Again, I when I say I've never I'm
taking the average college fan of some level.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But I gotta say I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, I'm just are we really going to do
the whole circus where you have to have been you
have to have been in the sec just like, let's
just do the SEC musical chairs like Bruce Pearl would
would work, but also Bruce Pearl's probably like I don't know,
five years from not coaching anymore and he already is
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in the SEC. And you bring a guy home and
I love the I love the people, Like look at
the recruiting classes he's had, he's at BYU, and people
know I'm big in the Mormon community.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I am.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I when I was in Connecticut, I literally had Mormons
on each side of my house and incredible neighbors and people,
so much so that I am Brother Doug to many people.
I'm being only half facetious because I really do have
a lot of Mormon friends.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But like, look, we all kind of know the deal.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You have to sign an honor code, and they actually
live up to that honor code in terms of no sex,
no drugs, no rock and roll if you in college.
And he's done some unique things at BYU and this
year they shot more threes th and two's.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's played in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't know, like we make it out like you
have to have you have to have been some Carnival
Barker in the past to coach at Kentucky, and maybe
you could just coach because you've played there and you
know how to coach basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And we'll see if people even alone.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
How much is it because I think that there are
a lot of schools that feel I think there are
a lot of schools at a certain level that have
a let's bring them home guy, right, Like, it's not
every school, but you have that guy. Honestly, you may
be it for Oklahoma State, but that's a completely different story.
The point is is Kentucky seems to be this different
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animal where bringing a guy home is not good enough.
And I don't know if it's a you know, third choice,
fourth choice, that sort of syndrome, but it sure doesn't
equate to any other basketball program in college basketball, because
Kentucky really isn't like any other program in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, doesn't mean it's not a precursor for success,
you know. I mean Billy Gillespie when he went there,
I mean everyone myself included would have said, man, that
that'll work.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I also think that part of it is the
timing of how things went down, mean that many of
these coaches had already turned down like a different job,
whether it's Arkanshaw job or any of these other jobs,
the Louisville j up, and so they had already gone
back to their athletic directors who had, you know, promised
them more money and promised them more nil and or
(05:07):
or some of them just have these ridiculous buyouts. And
maybe he just sat there and go like, okay, like
Mick Cronin would be great, but I got to pay
a sixteen million dollar buyout, and why would I can
bring a Kentucky guy home? Obviously, I mean I believe
that every school is different, but for my school, I
(05:27):
thought bringing somebody home is is important because the basketball coach,
the football I mean the football coach, the baseball coach,
the now retiring wrestling coach John Smith, all the lums.
And I do think that in recruiting, your recruiting is
telling a story, right of what your four years or
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you know, one, two, three years will look like. And
when you're recruiting to your school, you're telling your story.
There is some definite risk because if it doesn't work
now all of a sudden, do you cut that part
of your history or of the school's history off if
you lose, right, But there's also there's also a ton
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to be gained for when it's your guy, there's a lot,
maybe more loyalty, there's an ability to translate what it's
like to be a part of Kentucky's big Blue Nation.
And by the way, as much as we could sit
here and go, hey, he's not as accompassed as X.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
If we're looking at the five biggest jobs, right the
two others on the Eastern seaboard, right North Carolina and Duke.
They're both coached by alums. Both of them were never
head coaches before they got that job. So like you
can be critical of Mark Pope's hiring in comparison to
if you are going to hire Dan Hurley. But whatever
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you think of what they're doing at North Carolina, haven't
gone to a Final four two years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Three years or three seasons ago, whatever. This year.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They were a one seed last year obviously disappointed to
make the tournament. And a Duke john Shire is a
lump and they had never coached before at all as
head coach. They've been assistant coaches, but it never been
head coached at all. And then of course the UCLA
bit Crooran who is who you know, was a well
decorated head coach before he got that job, and then
Kansas was Bill self, and of course he was a
(07:23):
well decorated head coach. So there's no one perfect way
to to thread this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I do think Duke and North Carolina are a bit
unique into because of who their predecessors were. Sure succession plan, yes,
absolutely sure, and that makes it makes it tricky. Kentucky
is also sitting there saying and timing of it isn't
a fact there because it's Kentucky, not that the timing
is even off. It's different if a coach would leave
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during the summer, but we're right out of the gates
of the final four. I just I think it's the
fact of they also couldn't get what they wanted. They
were turned down, or the fan base feels that they
were turned down by those other options.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's funny because it's like the fan base turning on
one of their own. And Mark Pope is the exact
reason that a lot of these coaches are like WHOA sure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And it's like, uh, what what is it? Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Is it Kingpin? Things?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Kingpin?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Where he's just who are you calling?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Psycho?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, it's like, man, your fans are crazy. That's
why coaches like, what do you mean Our fans aren't crazy,
We just do want to hire some guy that we
don't like.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
He's like, but he's one of your own.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And he's one of your own. Who are you called
psycho from one of your from one of your best
teams that you've ever had as a school.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know that, I know, I know Market, I know
how I know Market's actually the funny.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
This is actually one of my funnier stories.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So when I was working at CBS, there was a
year where I did thirteen UNLV games, you know, be
home games thirteen. I was living in southern California, like
am now, and I was doing all those Mountain West
games and they were really good. Dave Rice was the
head coach. By the way, Dave just got a junior
college head coaching job after I think it's Snow at
(09:21):
what's called Snow Snow Junior College, I think, which is
in Salt Lake City. I believe that's the one he
just got. He got to you, Dave, and he was
at cal Baptist. So I would take off and it
got to the point where I was like, hey, do
you guys mind if I just like fly in day
of the game, like you no problem. You know from
where I lived is like ten minutes to Orange County Airport,
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and Orange County Airport is a forty five minute flight.
And the games were at eight, and I would get
done at three, and i'd get in a flight at
like four, land at five, and just go directly to
Thomas Mack, which is right off the runway that's where
you And so without fail, I would land and I
would text Dave Rice, hey, man, do you mind if
(10:06):
I come up to the office, And usually I would
go right up. Well, my one of my numbers for
Dave Rice. I kept it was Mark Pope's number because
Dave had been at BYU as an assistant coach and
he gave Mark his number for his school cell phone.
So it's one of those where I would just with
that well out looking. I had multiple Dave Rice numbers
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and type dating Dave Rice, and all of a sudden,
Mark Pope would start this conversation with me as if
he was Dave Rice, but he was really Mark Pope.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's like, hey, Doug, it's actually Mark Pope. Wrong number.
So I had it like.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
A probably three month long text exchange going on with Pope?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Were you cat fish by Mark Pope?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I was catfished by Mark Pope.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's exactly. He's a great dude. He's very bright, very funny.
I have I know people that have worked for him
that like him. He's an immensely likable guy, which course
gives me all the fear in the world that he's
going to Kentucky and those people will change him in
some demonic figure.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I don't think that's gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And you can go and point out all these different
coaches you could have had or whatever, but the truth
is that you're kind of annoying that that's how people
view you. I know, I'm kind of annoying right in
a different way. And like, if you're Kentucky, it's okay
to not be for everybody. Lots of coaches were not
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people's first choice. Dana Altman was famously like not anybody's first, second, third, fourth,
fifth choice. In organ that guy is amazing. This is
one of those. We also will also do a thing
where we where we criticize the uh what's it called
(11:53):
when you hire a search firm? Everybody was criticized when
you hire a search firm because they don't know what
search firms actually do. Search firms make it so that
you don't know who you're reaching out to, that all
the background work is already done so that when you
go and make a higher like had they gone out
and just been negotiating with Mark Pope, it would have
(12:15):
been a much easier sale all of these jobs. I mean,
Louisville was open for everyone who was coming open forever,
and you get the sense that who turned it down
turned it down. But if you don't know who turned
it down, it doesn't look nearly as bad. And that's
the beauty to the search firm is like wow, And
you could also also pass it off as well. That's
(12:38):
just the search firm doing what the search firms does.
Because Mark Pope had turned around BYU basketball this year,
he won at Utah Valley status previously, which is like
a college, it's basically in the shadow of BYU. But
you know, and yeah, I don't I don't hate it.
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I'd like to see a guy get a chance at
a higher level. And it's the old question, if you
can do that at BYU, what can you do at Kentucky?
You know, And the criticism of John Caliperry was well,
you know that act had kind of run tired. So
this guy has a completely different pitch spiel. I think
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a more you got to develop some talent. Now, you've
got to recruit out of the portal. Now, you got
to be more creative now because the old days of
lining up and trying to get the five best high
school products doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Doesn't work. There's a myriad of reasons.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We could do a whole radio show, and I do
think it'll get back to closer to working the G League.
Ignite went away. If overtime Elite goes away, I think,
and with all the nil and kids reportedly making you know,
seven figures, I think more and more kids will go
to and stay in college. But when they stay in
college again makes it harder to win with younger players.
(14:04):
So doing the same thing over and over again, even
though it's been successful for Kentucky for a while, it
doesn't mean it's always going to work when the landscape
has changed. But I I I just think it's hilarious
that Kentucky fans don't understand how they are perceived and
how that perception drives a lot of people away and
(14:28):
the perfect example of it is the massive overreaction to
one of their own, a Kentucky alum, who just took
his team to the NCA tournment, getting the job being
met with It's kind of like when you when you
when you drink a cough syrup when you're a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh JESU, what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I find it hilarious that they would rather have Bruce
Pearl and Rick Patino, not because of their coaching ability,
but because of what Patino had went to Louisville. Bruce
Pearl has been a thorn on the side of KI Kentucky,
whether he be at Tennessee or at Auburn or whatever.
They would rather have those options than to have one
of their own, who again won a national championship with
them almost thirty years ago. Yeah, well, I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And people like to talk about loyalty, and then when
you bring in one of your own, you know you're not.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
People are so disloyal and don't even want.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
To give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So and then of course you have the all the
old the pope, the fact that he's the pope and
it's the head coach of Kentucky, and I think you
tweeted out yesterday with the white Smoke.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yes, yes, six likes. I think it got well.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I liked it. I don't know if I actually you
appreciate it. I appreciate it even if I didn't like it.
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(20:32):
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this in regards to Mark Pope. So the new head
coach of Kentucky is gonna be Mark Pope and apparently,
(20:52):
like Kentucky fans are not happy about it. Like we
went from like Dan Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh
maybe getting Scot Drew to Mark Hope, who's one of
their own but hasn't had some long illustrious head coaching career.
Can I let you in on a secret you're getting closer?
Doesn't matter anymore, location doesn't matter, history doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Do you want to know what matters?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Money?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And it's it's basically a free market. And if the
donors will supply him with nil, which is buying players,
then you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Can he coach? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Like, well he has had a great recruiting class. Well,
guess what now he's got a bunch of money and
he's got Kentucky, So that goes out the window, right, Like,
unless you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.
And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They
have better players than the rest of the leagues. You
(22:01):
know why, because they have the most money and they
spend the most money.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Anyway, So you can be your happiness doesn't really matter.
It's the five or six guys that they're gonna give
the capitol, and as long as they keep giving money,
you'll keep getting players. And the second that they stop
giving money, you don't get the players. That's what happened
at Arkansas where Eric Musselman had been there. They went
to two Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season,
(22:31):
and then whatever happened. The money people were like, we're
not giving money if he's the coach, and then you
can't have a team. So then he goes to USC
and they're like, we'll give him money, and they're bringing
John cal Perry. We'll give them money. Did you see
the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,
who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced
(22:52):
the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.
We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not
the ad. Let's just cut through it. Okay, none of
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to stand up, and you're essentially the facto owner of
this whole thing, why don't you stand up and take about.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I I love it too, like I love it when
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tyson Like when you're the tyson of Tyson's. It's magnificent.
It is, it's really it really is a power play.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It really is.
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Yeah, let's all have some Tyson Chicken. And there's Johnny Tyson.
This is the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.
So I I've heard this from a couple of people,
not a ton of people, but the whole reaction to
OJ Simpson dying O J Simpson Die and Shannon Sharp,
(23:53):
who of course has a podcast called uh uh is.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It the Last Call?
Speaker 7 (24:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is on Last Call? Or don't called Nightcap? Do
I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't
think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind
Colin Cowherd's I see genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I
think he's a brilliant dude. His name is Logan Swain.
So Logan is one of the guys who runs things
for Colin Cowherds Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has
(24:27):
network has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco right, Chad
John's and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was
the name we wanted to have for my TV show
with Ali LaForce Logan was my producer, and they changed
it to leadoff it's the show at night, but it
was going to lead off the next day like it's
(24:48):
kind of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.
So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's
reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,
so did you see what? Did you hear what Shannon
Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill
(25:08):
upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both
saying never wish ill upon the dead when O. J.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Simpson died. Since when.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when
he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his
ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss
of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not
like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds
who took steroids that's the only way he could pass
Henry Eron's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like
the shadiest, worst dude ever, Like, no, no, this is
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a completely different We talk about sports and business like
the the murderers. I think you got a special place
in hell there, right, But it's it's more than just
being responsible for And I believe, though found innocent in
a criminal court of law, I believe he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
There's the interview.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You guys have all seen the interview right where he
went through the imaginary scenario, you know if in this
in this scenario, and then all of a sudden you
can see him walking you through that night and he's
got this nefarious Charlie figure.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You
don't have to You don't have to when Charlie Manson died,
did you have to go?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Like you know, hey, listen, I'll due respect to passing
of the Charlie Manson, you murder somebody or responsible for
or not the the the so of this I could
ever go as well. At least he one knows who
did it. And for all of this time, for the
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thirty years since the passing of his ex wife, he
couldn't give her family peace. And so now he dies
We're supposed to go like, hey, you know he died, like,
never speak ill upon the dead.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
No, so horrible human being. He's got a first class
ticket to hell. Why am I supposed to feel bad?
Why am I supposed to not speak poorly of the dead.
You're a god fearing Christian man?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Dad? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Here?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Am I the bad guy for saying that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think
that there are a lot of people that share your
opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of
Shannon Sharp. I just think that Shannon Sharp because he
attacked Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
H Oh, that's what it was. It was about. It
was about Kaitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a
comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where x
wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.
But I do not think. I don't have the angst
that you have. But I am in lockstep with you.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like
there was a post on social media, which I don't
know to be true, but I don't know to be
a lie where there's a woman who said she signed
an Nda and she was at USC in the mid
nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had
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the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about
murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping
to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers
were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's
a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here
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and go just because he died like my dad, out
of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody
who goes through that fight. You know, one of my
best friends dad died of colon cancer, which I think
what he died of, right, But I'm not going to
sit here and do the cancer thing and go do
the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
No thanks, I was not directly affected like ninety nine
point nine nine nine percent of us from this, although
ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of us were
wrapped up into the story. I'll make this quick, but
when this all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern
California yet. In fact, when I did move out to
southern California, and where I lived wasn't too far from
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where the murders took place. So when family came in,
guess where I would take them on a tour. That's
one of the streets we would go by and I
would say, hey, this is where this happened. About probably
within the last decade or so. I always remember that
Ron Goldman's sibling sister had personalized plates. I think his
dad did as well in honoring on and my wife
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and I were going out to a restaurant where we lived,
and I saw the personalized plate and we went into
the restaurant and I saw the family they're eating and
I thought to myself this, I thought, I'm going in
there and I'm looking for them. We know them, we
know their faces. Now this maybe twenty years thirty years
(30:22):
past it, but they're not having dinner, and they're probably
getting unique stairs. And they're not getting unique stairs because
they're famous. They're getting unique stairs because their son was murdered.
And to that point of just reality of it's got
to be a living hell to live every single day
with that memory that your son is not there, to
the point of now you can't even go in and
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get lost in public because you're reminded about it. Because
people see who you are, Like, it was such a
different Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,
don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's
a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity
at a restaurant, right, this is completely different. And if
you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking
at that.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,
it's the time can heal some wounds? Not that one, yep,
not that one.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Sorry, not that one.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And even if it was, you know, I mean, part
of it is if you know, we know about the
grisliness of the of the murders. It's not like there
was an argument in a fight and somebody lost their temper,
got scared and fired off like a warning shot and
like one of those deal crime of passion, but just
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the idea of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was
never given peace, and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty,
ultimate cruelty to not give people peace of what happened.
It's like, look, we can get over the fact that
you got that you got off of the murder charge.
(32:03):
Just tell us what happens. We just know, and I
don't know if you really want to know, but you
get so far deep into it and you get to
every you go through a trial, you see, you wear
every detail of it, so you kind of know, just like, dude,
come on, and then you carry on this charade if
(32:25):
I did it and in this in this scenario, and
you have every sort of detail, he's the worst. He's
the worst. No, death does not help you. In my mind,
it does not help you escape this thing.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You mean you tell me that you died of cancer
and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just
come just empty your soul because you don't have one.
So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I
can speak poorly of the dead.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
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Speaker 2 (33:08):
Doug gott A, Leab, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan
The Dan Etsche and The Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio.
So look, I think everybody thinks of these moments in
an athlete's career that are unique and special, like what
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you'd what you have in base baseball is because of
the true minor league system, maybe because of how we've
the movies like Bull Durham. The idea of getting a
call up from the to the show from the minor
leagues is something that sounds really really cool.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Then when you.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick
who it was only a year and a half ago,
is number one pick. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's the son of a dear friend of mine who
is a all star in his own right. And it
happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,
the Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three
Eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of
(34:10):
all adopted Jackson. Holiday is like our guy to watch
this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But
the guy who he actually it's actually his son, doesn't
have to adopt him, is Matt Holiday, and he joins
us now on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Matt, how are you.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
How we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Good man?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
What is that like to watch your son play in
the bigs?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Well, it's really exciting.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
It was, you know, I expected it at some point
this year, obviously didn't didn't know when and So when
he called me a couple of nights ago and said
he was he was.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Headed to Boston, pretty cool, pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we immediately
pivoted and tried to figure out how we were going
to get to Boston the next day and get to
the game and uh try to get everybody that wanted
to be there, uh to the game.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
And uh so it was. It was pretty exciting. Obviously.
Fenway Park is a is a historic.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Venue for baseball and and a lot of things up.
You know, I had a chance to play in a
couple of World Series is there and a really cool place,
uh to make your debut and and to uh get
a chance to go and watch him fulfill his dream
of playing in the major leagues and uh do it
on a really good team and in a really cool environment.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh it's a lot of fun. So we we had
a great.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Time and and now we just landed in Baltimore's catch
a catch there his first game as an oriole in
Baltimore tonight. Uh so that's exciting too. So it's a
it's a fun time, uh, and really enjoy watching him
pursue uh, you know, his passion and what he loves
to do, and that's play baseball.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I know, oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,
but you talk about us kind of it's it's gonna happen.
The day he was drafted, what did you think that
the plan was. I don't know things a given, but
in your mind, what are you thinking of, like, all right,
this is when we're going to see him in the bigs.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Well you know that that I understand how challenging baseball
is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly for
a kid coming out of high school, you know, can
be can be a challenge, and so uh, my expectations.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I think at the.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Press conference he said his goal was to be there
within two years, and I would to myself was thinking, geege,
actually like that, that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Quick, Like you're you know, this is a hard deal.
This is a hard game.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
And so I don't think that, you know, particularly with him,
when he puts his mind to something, he's he's pretty
relentless and and pretty uh you know, he's he's done,
done what he said he's he's going to do and
and so uh, to make it this fast has been
pretty remarkable, Uh, to be, you know, twenty years old
and in the Major league, Uh, after being drafted less
(36:49):
than two years ago. And you know, I'm I'm really
proud of him. He puts in the work and and
he's mentally very tough and very focused, and uh, he
does everything right as far as eating and sleeping and
watches you know how much make sure he's doing everything
he can.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Have success on the field.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
So I didn't really know to answer your question how
long it would take, I would have gets probably a
little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how
focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't know if you ever shared this story, but
it's when I remember Matt Holliday is our guest. Of course,
his son, Jackson, the number one overall pick of the
Orioles a year and a half ago, just got called
up to the Bigs as the Orioles were playing in
Boston now now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven
time All Star in his own rights, won a couple
of World Series as well. Okay, so when he was
(37:41):
younger and people ask all the time, like, no, how
what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?
And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid.
And I remember this story and some if I'm wrong,
you guys used to when he was little and Leslie
would go to Target. She would do a deal where
(38:02):
she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,
they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer
that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it
to go through, right?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Do am I remembering the story?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Ride? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He yeah, they He and Ethan were always concerned that, uh,
you know, the Target trips when the basket would get
too full, that if if we'd have enough money to
uh to get the to get all the things that
were in the basket. So I don't I don't know
if we how much money things were in those baskets,
but yeah, they were. They were concerned, uh that the
(38:42):
that the credit card wouldn't be able to cover it.
And so let's we just played along and she'd be like,
I don't know, we'll see. I mean, if not, we're
gonna have to start taking back.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,
how do you guys, how do you guys do it
like Ethan's going to be a star as well. Still
out of high school. He's in somebody's number one rate
to prospect in his class. But how do you do
how do you as a major leaguer and an All
Star when you have so many things that other people want?
How do you do it to where you do? You
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have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry
for more. That's really the thing that so many of
us who have young athletes that we want, and when
you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going
to have that hunger.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
I don't know what the I don't know if there's
a magic bullet on that. I think just you know,
I think them understanding what it took and getting a
chance to be around me in my career and getting
a chance to watch all my teammates, and I think
then identifying the level of work that it takes to
play at the highest level and for them to see
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you know, the best players and what they you know,
the work that's put in, I think was really good
for them to understand. And I think it also it
h it created a passion I think for the game
and were wanting to do that for a living, and
for them wanting to be pro baseball players. I think
being around it and it's you know, it kind of
(40:09):
provoked them to want to want to do that. And
so I always told them, you know, I would throw
to them or hit them ground balls or whatever they
wanted to do all day if if it was their
idea that I wasn't going to force them that I
wasn't going to make them go practice that in baseball.
You really, you know, in all sports, as you know,
you have to have a passion for the practice, and
you have to love the behind the scenes work, and
(40:31):
you have to love the the the skill development just
as much as you love the game in front of
the fun of people and and the the four for
fours and the highs of of of winning and and
and and being you know, the sort of the star player.
You have to love all of the process just as
much because that's how hard, you know, the sport is
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at the highest level that you have to continue to
work and and and and fight for every day that
that every day is competitions and challenge and if you don't,
you can get embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I mean, it really is. And in the major leagues.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Nine you're playing the best, bringing it both mentally and physically. Uh,
I mean, you have to have to bring it on
hundred every night. And so I think that's the fact
that they were raised in that environment really, you know,
helped them understand what it took and and then, like
I said, to develop their passion for the practice.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Quick one for you men, holiday before we let you go.
When Doug Gotland stays with you, does he also put
his feet on your furniture like he does sometimes at work?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Yeah, but that's really invited in our house. Okay, all right,
we have four dogs and and we have you know,
it's it's uh yeah, so it's it's it's uh everyone
puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh, it's it's right up.
He probably learned that at our house and now.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
He doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody nobody, nobody,
nobody likes No we likes Trooper. Hey man, I'm so happy.
I can't wait to see Jackson he comes out to
the Big a h next week. Safe travels for you guys,
and let's see if Jackson get his first home runn
night off Peralta.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
That was good, all right, thanks, all.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a real
close friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
But can you imagine, like you strip it all away,
you've you've done all that stuff yourself, and you know
they work literally every day in the barn at Matt's
house on hitting. And to see your twenty year old
kid like get called up, I don't know. That's I've
had a lot of dad moments. That's a pretty good one.
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Pretty good, pretty good one.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Coming up next to The Dan Patrick Show here on
Fox Sports Radio,
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,
iHeartRadio app. Welcome in Hope. You're doing great. Dan Buyer's
alongside my man Jason Stewart. And uh, it is a Friday,
a golf Friday, where we're well, you know, watching the
(00:25):
second round of the Masters, reacting the first round the Masters.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
We still have some uh some o.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
J Simpson, I guess to discuss whether or not he's
worthy of the discussion or not. And then we have
a coaching hiring of PayPal levels?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is that? PayPal levels? Is that what I gotta say there?
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I'm I'm good with that. Okay, Hey doing Dan, I'm great, Doug,
I'm great. Masters first round, wrapping up, second round has
already begune. So you've got this converging of rounds at Augusta.
So yeah, that's a great day. It is a good day.
It is a good day. White smoking Lexington.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
White smoking Lexington. So Mark Pope is going to be
the new head coach of Big Blue Nation. And if
you're sitting there going like, who in the hell is
Mark Pope Kentucky? People actually know who Mark Pope is
because he played at Kentucky, started his current at University Washington,
transferred in and played for Rick Patino at Kentucky, part
(01:30):
of one of their national championship teams under Patino. And
he's been the head coach at Utah Valley State and
by U and just this year he took BYU to
the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
And yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So there's a there's a lot to unpack there, right,
because you sit there going like, wait a second. First,
they were talking about Dan Hurley, who just won back
to back national titles. Then they were talking about Billy
Donovan who won back to back national titles, was the
last guy to do it before Dan Hurley. They're talking
about Scott Drew who won a national title and as
is a top twenty program year in year out of Bailey.
(02:10):
And now you talk about Mark Pope, I've never heard
of before. Again, I when I say I've never I'm
taking the average college fan of some level.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But I gotta say I don't hate it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I mean, I'm just are we really going to do
the whole circus where you have to have been you
have to have been in the sec just like, let's
just do the SEC musical chairs like Bruce Pearl would
would work, but also Bruce Pearl's probably like I don't know,
five years from not coaching anymore and he already is
(02:48):
in the SEC. And you bring a guy home and
I love the I love the people, Like look at
the recruiting classes he's had, he's at BYU, and people
know I'm big in the Mormon community.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I am.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I when I was in Connecticut, I literally had Mormons
on each side of my house and incredible neighbors and people,
so much so that I am Brother Doug to many people.
I'm being only half facetious because I really do have
a lot of Mormon friends.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But like, look, we all kind of know the deal.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You have to sign an honor code, and they actually
live up to that honor code in terms of no sex,
no drugs, no rock and roll if you in college.
And he's done some unique things at BYU and this
year they shot more threes th and two's.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He's played in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't know, like we make it out like you
have to have you have to have been some Carnival
Barker in the past to coach at Kentucky, and maybe
you could just coach because you've played there and you
know how to coach basketball.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And we'll see if people even alone.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
How much is it because I think that there are
a lot of schools that feel I think there are
a lot of schools at a certain level that have
a let's bring them home guy, right, Like, it's not
every school, but you have that guy. Honestly, you may
be it for Oklahoma State, but that's a completely different story.
The point is is Kentucky seems to be this different
(04:15):
animal where bringing a guy home is not good enough.
And I don't know if it's a you know, third choice,
fourth choice, that sort of syndrome, but it sure doesn't
equate to any other basketball program in college basketball, because
Kentucky really isn't like any other program in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, No, doesn't mean it's not a precursor for success,
you know. I mean Billy Gillespie when he went there,
I mean everyone myself included would have said, man, that
that'll work.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I also think that part of it is the
timing of how things went down, mean that many of
these coaches had already turned down like a different job,
whether it's Arkanshaw job or any of these other jobs,
the Louisville j up, and so they had already gone
back to their athletic directors who had, you know, promised
them more money and promised them more nil and or
(05:07):
or some of them just have these ridiculous buyouts. And
maybe he just sat there and go like, okay, like
Mick Cronin would be great, but I got to pay
a sixteen million dollar buyout, and why would I can
bring a Kentucky guy home? Obviously, I mean I believe
that every school is different, but for my school, I
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thought bringing somebody home is is important because the basketball coach,
the football I mean the football coach, the baseball coach,
the now retiring wrestling coach John Smith, all the lums.
And I do think that in recruiting, your recruiting is
telling a story, right of what your four years or
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you know, one, two, three years will look like. And
when you're recruiting to your school, you're telling your story.
There is some definite risk because if it doesn't work
now all of a sudden, do you cut that part
of your history or of the school's history off if
you lose, right, But there's also there's also a ton
(06:11):
to be gained for when it's your guy, there's a lot,
maybe more loyalty, there's an ability to translate what it's
like to be a part of Kentucky's big Blue Nation.
And by the way, as much as we could sit
here and go, hey, he's not as accompassed as X.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Y and Z.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
If we're looking at the five biggest jobs, right the
two others on the Eastern seaboard, right North Carolina and Duke.
They're both coached by alums. Both of them were never
head coaches before they got that job. So like you
can be critical of Mark Pope's hiring in comparison to
if you are going to hire Dan Hurley. But whatever
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you think of what they're doing at North Carolina, haven't
gone to a Final four two years ago.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Three years or three seasons ago, whatever. This year.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They were a one seed last year obviously disappointed to
make the tournament. And a Duke john Shire is a
lump and they had never coached before at all as
head coach. They've been assistant coaches, but it never been
head coached at all. And then of course the UCLA
bit Crooran who is who you know, was a well
decorated head coach before he got that job, and then
Kansas was Bill self, and of course he was a
(07:23):
well decorated head coach. So there's no one perfect way
to to thread this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I do think Duke and North Carolina are a bit
unique into because of who their predecessors were. Sure succession plan, yes,
absolutely sure, and that makes it makes it tricky. Kentucky
is also sitting there saying and timing of it isn't
a fact there because it's Kentucky, not that the timing
is even off. It's different if a coach would leave
(07:52):
during the summer, but we're right out of the gates
of the final four. I just I think it's the
fact of they also couldn't get what they wanted. They
were turned down, or the fan base feels that they
were turned down by those other options.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
It's funny because it's like the fan base turning on
one of their own. And Mark Pope is the exact
reason that a lot of these coaches are like WHOA sure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
And it's like, uh, what what is it? Is it?
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Is it Kingpin? Things?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Kingpin?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Where he's just who are you calling?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Psycho?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
You know, it's like, man, your fans are crazy. That's
why coaches like, what do you mean Our fans aren't crazy,
We just do want to hire some guy that we
don't like.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
He's like, but he's one of your own.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
And he's one of your own. Who are you called
psycho from one of your from one of your best
teams that you've ever had as a school.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You know that, I know, I know Market, I know
how I know Market's actually the funny.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
This is actually one of my funnier stories.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So when I was working at CBS, there was a
year where I did thirteen UNLV games, you know, be
home games thirteen. I was living in southern California, like
am now, and I was doing all those Mountain West
games and they were really good. Dave Rice was the
head coach. By the way, Dave just got a junior
college head coaching job after I think it's Snow at
(09:21):
what's called Snow Snow Junior College, I think, which is
in Salt Lake City. I believe that's the one he
just got. He got to you, Dave, and he was
at cal Baptist. So I would take off and it
got to the point where I was like, hey, do
you guys mind if I just like fly in day
of the game, like you no problem. You know from
where I lived is like ten minutes to Orange County Airport,
(09:45):
and Orange County Airport is a forty five minute flight.
And the games were at eight, and I would get
done at three, and i'd get in a flight at
like four, land at five, and just go directly to
Thomas Mack, which is right off the runway that's where
you And so without fail, I would land and I
would text Dave Rice, hey, man, do you mind if
(10:06):
I come up to the office, And usually I would
go right up. Well, my one of my numbers for
Dave Rice. I kept it was Mark Pope's number because
Dave had been at BYU as an assistant coach and
he gave Mark his number for his school cell phone.
So it's one of those where I would just with
that well out looking. I had multiple Dave Rice numbers
(10:29):
and type dating Dave Rice, and all of a sudden,
Mark Pope would start this conversation with me as if
he was Dave Rice, but he was really Mark Pope.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
He's like, hey, Doug, it's actually Mark Pope. Wrong number.
So I had it like.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
A probably three month long text exchange going on with Pope?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Were you cat fish by Mark Pope?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I was catfished by Mark Pope.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
That's exactly. He's a great dude. He's very bright, very funny.
I have I know people that have worked for him
that like him. He's an immensely likable guy, which course
gives me all the fear in the world that he's
going to Kentucky and those people will change him in
some demonic figure.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
But I don't think that's gonna happen, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And you can go and point out all these different
coaches you could have had or whatever, but the truth
is that you're kind of annoying that that's how people
view you. I know, I'm kind of annoying right in
a different way. And like, if you're Kentucky, it's okay
to not be for everybody. Lots of coaches were not
(11:32):
people's first choice. Dana Altman was famously like not anybody's first, second, third, fourth,
fifth choice. In organ that guy is amazing. This is
one of those. We also will also do a thing
where we where we criticize the uh what's it called
(11:53):
when you hire a search firm? Everybody was criticized when
you hire a search firm because they don't know what
search firms actually do. Search firms make it so that
you don't know who you're reaching out to, that all
the background work is already done so that when you
go and make a higher like had they gone out
and just been negotiating with Mark Pope, it would have
(12:15):
been a much easier sale all of these jobs. I mean,
Louisville was open for everyone who was coming open forever,
and you get the sense that who turned it down
turned it down. But if you don't know who turned
it down, it doesn't look nearly as bad. And that's
the beauty to the search firm is like wow, And
you could also also pass it off as well. That's
(12:38):
just the search firm doing what the search firms does.
Because Mark Pope had turned around BYU basketball this year,
he won at Utah Valley status previously, which is like
a college, it's basically in the shadow of BYU. But
you know, and yeah, I don't I don't hate it.
(13:01):
I'd like to see a guy get a chance at
a higher level. And it's the old question, if you
can do that at BYU, what can you do at Kentucky?
You know, And the criticism of John Caliperry was well,
you know that act had kind of run tired. So
this guy has a completely different pitch spiel. I think
(13:22):
a more you got to develop some talent. Now, you've
got to recruit out of the portal. Now, you got
to be more creative now because the old days of
lining up and trying to get the five best high
school products doesn't work.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Doesn't work. There's a myriad of reasons.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We could do a whole radio show, and I do
think it'll get back to closer to working the G League.
Ignite went away. If overtime Elite goes away, I think,
and with all the nil and kids reportedly making you know,
seven figures, I think more and more kids will go
to and stay in college. But when they stay in
college again makes it harder to win with younger players.
(14:04):
So doing the same thing over and over again, even
though it's been successful for Kentucky for a while, it
doesn't mean it's always going to work when the landscape
has changed. But I I I just think it's hilarious
that Kentucky fans don't understand how they are perceived and
how that perception drives a lot of people away and
(14:28):
the perfect example of it is the massive overreaction to
one of their own, a Kentucky alum, who just took
his team to the NCA tournment, getting the job being
met with It's kind of like when you when you
when you drink a cough syrup when you're a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh JESU, what is that?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I find it hilarious that they would rather have Bruce
Pearl and Rick Patino, not because of their coaching ability,
but because of what Patino had went to Louisville. Bruce
Pearl has been a thorn on the side of KI Kentucky,
whether he be at Tennessee or at Auburn or whatever.
They would rather have those options than to have one
of their own, who again won a national championship with
them almost thirty years ago. Yeah, well, I love it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And people like to talk about loyalty, and then when
you bring in one of your own, you know you're not.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
People are so disloyal and don't even want.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
To give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
So and then of course you have the all the
old the pope, the fact that he's the pope and
it's the head coach of Kentucky, and I think you
tweeted out yesterday with the white Smoke.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yes, yes, six likes. I think it got well.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I liked it. I don't know if I actually you
appreciate it. I appreciate it even if I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
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in our two hour show. We never get to everything, honestly,
because this guy is over promising things we never have
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, you blubber list me.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
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be good at it because you've been over promising women
for years.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
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Speaker 2 (16:52):
What a good morning to you Dan Patrick's show, Fox
Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
It's a Friday. I just I just want you to know,
Like I.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
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I have my car, had a little air conditioning issue
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the car, they're like, hey, we want to replace your tires.
(17:45):
It's like why, Like, well, you know your tire sensors
aren't working because the rims that you have. It's like no, no, no, no,
I got my tires from Tyraq. I just I have
no connection with Continental. I just know that I've had
this set of continentals previously and they lasted like fifty
thousand miles, which on my car and the way I
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(18:07):
Continental tire. I'm a cottonail tire guy anyway. And then
they told me how much it costs, Like, no Ah,
only get my tires from Tireraq because they're literally half
the price of what you were trying to charge me.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I can I can make do with that.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Having the the the guide telling me I got a
flat tire. I know what a flat tire sounds and
feels like.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I lived.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I've lived, you know, however many years, thirty plus years
as a driver, not needing that tire gauge in the car.
Speaker 5 (18:40):
Some good. Do you think there's training for those shops?
This is how you're gonna try to get to add
on the service. I worked in retail in college and
the mall, and that was always the big one. Try
to get the multiple the multiple places.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Wait, hold on, what where? Come on? Give what you did?
Open the door? He'll the door, didn't he?
Speaker 5 (18:59):
He?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Where'd you are?
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Uh? East Town Mall, Madison, Wisconsin? Champs Sporting Goods?
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I love Champs?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yes, all right, Peter Champs.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Right, Champs has gone right there?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
No, I think they're still around.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, maybe there's like foot action, foot locker, Champs, what else?
They all like morphed and then like you're east the
East Bay, another Wisconsin company, all kind of morphed into that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Now, man, now Champs, you have to wear that. You
have to wear that.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
What was the Polo just Polo and Khaki's cool? What
was the discount? That's here's the big question. I think
it was fifteen that's it? Yes, still good enough for me.
The Polo story was you buy a pair of shoes.
I need you to walk away with either some shoe
protecting or some socks. Definitely, that was like, that was
(19:44):
the main thing. So when you're taking your car into
these shops, that to your point, Like you're like, I'll
just trust Tyrech thinking I'm.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So glad you brought that up. So I'm driving with
my son yesterday and he's like, all he wanted to
do is connect his phone to the car to the
OX to play.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Uh. He loves rap.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So I'm like, hey, dude, turn that off real quick.
Let me just explain this is what they try and
do to you. No matter, it doesn't matter the car company,
doesn't matter. They're going to try these little add ons
like you gotta No, I don't want I have a
I have a place where I get tires. I don't
need tires. You're just trying to get me and get
new tires because I need some tire. Guy like, no,
(20:32):
don't need it. Like they'll they'll try and get you.
Make sure you see read through the estimate before you
do so. So I also I did want to say
this in regards to Mark Pope. So the new head
coach of Kentucky is gonna be Mark Pope and apparently,
(20:52):
like Kentucky fans are not happy about it. Like we
went from like Dan Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh
maybe getting Scot Drew to Mark Hope, who's one of
their own but hasn't had some long illustrious head coaching career.
Can I let you in on a secret you're getting closer?
Doesn't matter anymore, location doesn't matter, history doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Do you want to know what matters?
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Money?
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And it's it's basically a free market. And if the
donors will supply him with nil, which is buying players,
then you'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Can he coach? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Like, well he has had a great recruiting class. Well,
guess what now he's got a bunch of money and
he's got Kentucky, So that goes out the window, right, Like,
unless you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.
And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They
have better players than the rest of the leagues. You
(22:01):
know why, because they have the most money and they
spend the most money.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Anyway, So you can be your happiness doesn't really matter.
It's the five or six guys that they're gonna give
the capitol, and as long as they keep giving money,
you'll keep getting players. And the second that they stop
giving money, you don't get the players. That's what happened
at Arkansas where Eric Musselman had been there. They went
to two Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season,
(22:31):
and then whatever happened. The money people were like, we're
not giving money if he's the coach, and then you
can't have a team. So then he goes to USC
and they're like, we'll give him money, and they're bringing
John cal Perry. We'll give them money. Did you see
the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,
who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced
(22:52):
the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.
We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not
the ad. Let's just cut through it. Okay, none of
this happens if not for your money. So Johnny wants
to stand up, and you're essentially the facto owner of
this whole thing, why don't you stand up and take about.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I I love it too, like I love it when
the name is I mean, it's his where it's not like, hey,
this is a David McHenry, you know, the head of
tyson Like when you're the tyson of Tyson's. It's magnificent.
It is, it's really it really is a power play.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, let's all have some Tyson Chicken. And there's Johnny Tyson.
This is the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.
So I I've heard this from a couple of people,
not a ton of people, but the whole reaction to
OJ Simpson dying O J Simpson Die and Shannon Sharp,
(23:53):
who of course has a podcast called uh uh is.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It the Last Call?
Speaker 7 (24:02):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
This is on Last Call? Or don't called Nightcap? Do
I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't
think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind
Colin Cowherd's I see genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I
think he's a brilliant dude. His name is Logan Swain.
So Logan is one of the guys who runs things
for Colin Cowherds Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has
(24:27):
network has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco right, Chad
John's and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was
the name we wanted to have for my TV show
with Ali LaForce Logan was my producer, and they changed
it to leadoff it's the show at night, but it
was going to lead off the next day like it's
(24:48):
kind of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.
So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's
reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,
so did you see what? Did you hear what Shannon
Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill
(25:08):
upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both
saying never wish ill upon the dead when O. J.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Simpson died. Since when.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when
he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his
ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss
of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not
like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds
who took steroids that's the only way he could pass
Henry Eron's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like
the shadiest, worst dude ever, Like, no, no, this is
(25:58):
a completely different We talk about sports and business like
the the murderers. I think you got a special place
in hell there, right, But it's it's more than just
being responsible for And I believe, though found innocent in
a criminal court of law, I believe he did it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
There's the interview.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You guys have all seen the interview right where he
went through the imaginary scenario, you know if in this
in this scenario, and then all of a sudden you
can see him walking you through that night and he's
got this nefarious Charlie figure.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You
don't have to You don't have to when Charlie Manson died,
did you have to go?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Like you know, hey, listen, I'll due respect to passing
of the Charlie Manson, you murder somebody or responsible for
or not the the the so of this I could
ever go as well. At least he one knows who
did it. And for all of this time, for the
(27:08):
thirty years since the passing of his ex wife, he
couldn't give her family peace. And so now he dies
We're supposed to go like, hey, you know he died, like,
never speak ill upon the dead.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
No, so horrible human being. He's got a first class
ticket to hell. Why am I supposed to feel bad?
Why am I supposed to not speak poorly of the dead.
You're a god fearing Christian man?
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Dad? Am I wrong?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Here?
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Am I the bad guy for saying that?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
No?
Speaker 5 (27:39):
I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think
that there are a lot of people that share your
opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of
Shannon Sharp. I just think that Shannon Sharp because he
attacked Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
H Oh, that's what it was. It was about. It
was about Kaitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a
comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where x
wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.
But I do not think. I don't have the angst
that you have. But I am in lockstep with you.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like
there was a post on social media, which I don't
know to be true, but I don't know to be
a lie where there's a woman who said she signed
an Nda and she was at USC in the mid
nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had
(28:34):
the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about
murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping
to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers
were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's
a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here
(28:56):
and go just because he died like my dad, out
of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody
who goes through that fight. You know, one of my
best friends dad died of colon cancer, which I think
what he died of, right, But I'm not going to
sit here and do the cancer thing and go do
the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
No thanks, I was not directly affected like ninety nine
point nine nine nine percent of us from this, although
ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of us were
wrapped up into the story. I'll make this quick, but
when this all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern
California yet. In fact, when I did move out to
southern California, and where I lived wasn't too far from
(29:38):
where the murders took place. So when family came in,
guess where I would take them on a tour. That's
one of the streets we would go by and I
would say, hey, this is where this happened. About probably
within the last decade or so. I always remember that
Ron Goldman's sibling sister had personalized plates. I think his
dad did as well in honoring on and my wife
(30:01):
and I were going out to a restaurant where we lived,
and I saw the personalized plate and we went into
the restaurant and I saw the family they're eating and
I thought to myself this, I thought, I'm going in
there and I'm looking for them. We know them, we
know their faces. Now this maybe twenty years thirty years
(30:22):
past it, but they're not having dinner, and they're probably
getting unique stairs. And they're not getting unique stairs because
they're famous. They're getting unique stairs because their son was murdered.
And to that point of just reality of it's got
to be a living hell to live every single day
with that memory that your son is not there, to
the point of now you can't even go in and
(30:44):
get lost in public because you're reminded about it. Because
people see who you are, Like, it was such a
different Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,
don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's
a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity
at a restaurant, right, this is completely different. And if
you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking
at that.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,
it's the time can heal some wounds? Not that one, yep,
not that one.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Sorry, not that one.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And even if it was, you know, I mean, part
of it is if you know, we know about the
grisliness of the of the murders. It's not like there
was an argument in a fight and somebody lost their temper,
got scared and fired off like a warning shot and
like one of those deal crime of passion, but just
(31:41):
the idea of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was
never given peace, and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty,
ultimate cruelty to not give people peace of what happened.
It's like, look, we can get over the fact that
you got that you got off of the murder charge.
(32:03):
Just tell us what happens. We just know, and I
don't know if you really want to know, but you
get so far deep into it and you get to
every you go through a trial, you see, you wear
every detail of it, so you kind of know, just like, dude,
come on, and then you carry on this charade if
(32:25):
I did it and in this in this scenario, and
you have every sort of detail, he's the worst. He's
the worst. No, death does not help you. In my mind,
it does not help you escape this thing.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You mean you tell me that you died of cancer
and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just
come just empty your soul because you don't have one.
So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I
can speak poorly of the dead.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Be sure to cat the live edition of The Dan
Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Doug gott A, Leab, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan
The Dan Etsche and The Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio.
So look, I think everybody thinks of these moments in
an athlete's career that are unique and special, like what
(33:30):
you'd what you have in base baseball is because of
the true minor league system, maybe because of how we've
the movies like Bull Durham. The idea of getting a
call up from the to the show from the minor
leagues is something that sounds really really cool.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Then when you.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick
who it was only a year and a half ago,
is number one pick. And oh yeah, by the way,
he's the son of a dear friend of mine who
is a all star in his own right. And it
happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,
the Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three
Eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of
(34:10):
all adopted Jackson. Holiday is like our guy to watch
this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But
the guy who he actually it's actually his son, doesn't
have to adopt him, is Matt Holiday, and he joins
us now on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Matt, how are you.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
How we doing?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Good man?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
What is that like to watch your son play in
the bigs?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Well, it's really exciting.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
It was, you know, I expected it at some point
this year, obviously didn't didn't know when and So when
he called me a couple of nights ago and said
he was he was.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Headed to Boston, pretty cool, pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
Feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we immediately
pivoted and tried to figure out how we were going
to get to Boston the next day and get to
the game and uh try to get everybody that wanted
to be there, uh to the game.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
And uh so it was. It was pretty exciting. Obviously.
Fenway Park is a is a historic.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
Venue for baseball and and a lot of things up.
You know, I had a chance to play in a
couple of World Series is there and a really cool place,
uh to make your debut and and to uh get
a chance to go and watch him fulfill his dream
of playing in the major leagues and uh do it
on a really good team and in a really cool environment.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Uh it's a lot of fun. So we we had
a great.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Time and and now we just landed in Baltimore's catch
a catch there his first game as an oriole in
Baltimore tonight. Uh so that's exciting too. So it's a
it's a fun time, uh, and really enjoy watching him
pursue uh, you know, his passion and what he loves
to do, and that's play baseball.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I know, oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,
but you talk about us kind of it's it's gonna happen.
The day he was drafted, what did you think that
the plan was. I don't know things a given, but
in your mind, what are you thinking of, like, all right,
this is when we're going to see him in the bigs.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Well you know that that I understand how challenging baseball
is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly for
a kid coming out of high school, you know, can
be can be a challenge, and so uh, my expectations.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
I think at the.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Press conference he said his goal was to be there
within two years, and I would to myself was thinking, geege,
actually like that, that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Quick, Like you're you know, this is a hard deal.
This is a hard game.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
And so I don't think that, you know, particularly with him,
when he puts his mind to something, he's he's pretty
relentless and and pretty uh you know, he's he's done,
done what he said he's he's going to do and
and so uh, to make it this fast has been
pretty remarkable, Uh, to be, you know, twenty years old
and in the Major league, Uh, after being drafted less
(36:49):
than two years ago. And you know, I'm I'm really
proud of him. He puts in the work and and
he's mentally very tough and very focused, and uh, he
does everything right as far as eating and sleeping and
watches you know how much make sure he's doing everything
he can.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Have success on the field.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
So I didn't really know to answer your question how
long it would take, I would have gets probably a
little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how
focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't know if you ever shared this story, but
it's when I remember Matt Holliday is our guest. Of course,
his son, Jackson, the number one overall pick of the
Orioles a year and a half ago, just got called
up to the Bigs as the Orioles were playing in
Boston now now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven
time All Star in his own rights, won a couple
of World Series as well. Okay, so when he was
(37:41):
younger and people ask all the time, like, no, how
what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?
And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid.
And I remember this story and some if I'm wrong,
you guys used to when he was little and Leslie
would go to Target. She would do a deal where
(38:02):
she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,
they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer
that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it
to go through, right?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Do am I remembering the story?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Ride? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (38:17):
He yeah, they He and Ethan were always concerned that, uh,
you know, the Target trips when the basket would get
too full, that if if we'd have enough money to
uh to get the to get all the things that
were in the basket. So I don't I don't know
if we how much money things were in those baskets,
but yeah, they were. They were concerned, uh that the
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that the credit card wouldn't be able to cover it.
And so let's we just played along and she'd be like,
I don't know, we'll see. I mean, if not, we're
gonna have to start taking back.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,
how do you guys, how do you guys do it
like Ethan's going to be a star as well. Still
out of high school. He's in somebody's number one rate
to prospect in his class. But how do you do
how do you as a major leaguer and an All
Star when you have so many things that other people want?
How do you do it to where you do? You
(39:11):
have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry
for more. That's really the thing that so many of
us who have young athletes that we want, and when
you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going
to have that hunger.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
I don't know what the I don't know if there's
a magic bullet on that. I think just you know,
I think them understanding what it took and getting a
chance to be around me in my career and getting
a chance to watch all my teammates, and I think
then identifying the level of work that it takes to
play at the highest level and for them to see
(39:46):
you know, the best players and what they you know,
the work that's put in, I think was really good
for them to understand. And I think it also it
h it created a passion I think for the game
and were wanting to do that for a living, and
for them wanting to be pro baseball players. I think
being around it and it's you know, it kind of
(40:09):
provoked them to want to want to do that. And
so I always told them, you know, I would throw
to them or hit them ground balls or whatever they
wanted to do all day if if it was their
idea that I wasn't going to force them that I
wasn't going to make them go practice that in baseball.
You really, you know, in all sports, as you know,
you have to have a passion for the practice, and
you have to love the behind the scenes work, and
(40:31):
you have to love the the the skill development just
as much as you love the game in front of
the fun of people and and the the four for
fours and the highs of of of winning and and
and and being you know, the sort of the star player.
You have to love all of the process just as
much because that's how hard, you know, the sport is
(40:53):
at the highest level that you have to continue to
work and and and and fight for every day that
that every day is competitions and challenge and if you don't,
you can get embarrassed.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
I mean, it really is. And in the major leagues.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
Nine you're playing the best, bringing it both mentally and physically. Uh,
I mean, you have to have to bring it on
hundred every night. And so I think that's the fact
that they were raised in that environment really, you know,
helped them understand what it took and and then, like
I said, to develop their passion for the practice.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
Quick one for you men, holiday before we let you go.
When Doug Gotland stays with you, does he also put
his feet on your furniture like he does sometimes at work?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (41:38):
Yeah, but that's really invited in our house. Okay, all right,
we have four dogs and and we have you know,
it's it's uh yeah, so it's it's it's uh everyone
puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh, it's it's right up.
He probably learned that at our house and now.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
He doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
You have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody nobody, nobody,
nobody likes No we likes Trooper. Hey man, I'm so happy.
I can't wait to see Jackson he comes out to
the Big a h next week. Safe travels for you guys,
and let's see if Jackson get his first home runn
night off Peralta.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
That was good, all right, thanks, all.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a real
close friend of mine.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
But can you imagine, like you strip it all away,
you've you've done all that stuff yourself, and you know
they work literally every day in the barn at Matt's
house on hitting. And to see your twenty year old
kid like get called up, I don't know. That's I've
had a lot of dad moments. That's a pretty good one.
(42:38):
Pretty good, pretty good one.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
All right.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
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