April 12, 2024 • 36 mins
In The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show, Jason Fitz in in for Doug Gottlieb and reacts to Kentucky hiring Mark Pope! Shohei Ohtani's former interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, has surrendered to authorities this morning and is due in court. AND why did the 76ers make Allen Iverson statue so TINY!
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As you just heard, Mark Pope is the new coach
for Kentucky men's basketball. Think about what you've seen in
the last week. You've seen one of the biggest names
in college basketball walk away from one of the biggest
brands in all of sports, and you've seen that sport
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desperately cling to try and find a coach to replace him.
And through all of that, what have we learned? College
sports are better than ever. It's a Doug Gottlieb Show.
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tire buying should be. Think about what it's been in
college sports, in college basketball for a generation, what's a
blue blood? Who's a blue blood and what's it mean
to be one? Well, what it's meant for an entire
generation is that if you were one of the select few,
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you got what you wanted, If you were one of
the few schools that had that brand equity, you got
who you wanted, You got the players you wanted, you
got the coaches you wanted, you had the money you wanted,
You always had the facilities you wanted. You wanted for nothing,
And as a result, what do we see year in
and year out. This isn't even just a college basketball conversation.
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This is a college sports conversation because if we now
live in a world where a coach at Kentucky will
leave by choice to go to Arkansas for basketball, and
then Kentucky will be left scrambling backing up a Brinks
truck to a Connecticut coach just says nah, I'm good,
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I don't want anything to do with that. Then taking
that Brinks cut truck all the way down to Baylor
and saying please, sir, we want you to come, and
somebody's saying, no, I'm happy at Baylor. I don't need Kentucky.
They had to go through the list. We're not talking
about Kentucky's first choice, we're not talking about their second choice,
might not even be talking about their third choice. And
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what we're reminded through in all of that, you can
have all the money in the world, you can have
all the brand equity in the world. You can be
the blue blood that everybody resonates with. And in today's
college basketball that doesn't necessarily give you an edge up
to everybody's sitting here telling you why college sports are dying.
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Everybody's sitting here telling you why the model's not sustainable.
Everybody wants to tell you it's killing the game that
we love, is it? Because let's look at college basketball
right now. Who are the three most dominant teams in
college basketball this year throughout the course of the entire
regular season. Houston, Purdue, Connecticut. You know what name I
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didn't say there. I didn't say North Carolina, I didn't
say Duke, I didn't say Kentucky, didn't say Kansas. We're
talking about non traditional powerhouses rising and how do they rise?
Because in today's college sports world, it's finally going to
be the type of world where if you want it,
you can get it. Because Nils and collectives for all
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the conversation we want to have of how bad it is,
and oh my god, I can't believe amateurism is lost
in sports like it ever really existed. But furthermore, I
don't care. Can't take the toothpaste to put it back
in the tube. It's out. So now what Now every
single school that wants to be competitive can be. Now
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every single school that wants to find the money to
put themselves in the class of the elite can do it.
And now all of a sudden, talent is spread out.
Look at college football. If you look at the top
recruits in college football over the course of the last
two years, we've seen those recruits spread out to more
schools than ever each of the last two years. Why
because now you can go a million different places. We
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get college football coaches. Nick Saban leaves all of a sudden,
Alabama scrambles to figure out what's gonna happen there, and
Washington figures out what they got to scramble to figure
out what's gonna happen there. Happen to be good buddies
with Lance Lightpol, the Kansas football head coach. I watched
all of that from the sides with my fingers just dancing, thinking, Oh,
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I'm gonna watch my buddy go wherever he wants. What
do you do, stay of Kansas? Why? Because you don't
have to go somewhere else now to make it to
the big time. Every school can make a decision to compete.
Every school can make a decision to become involved in
investing in players. Every school can decide every single year
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how much they're willing to put in. And every school
on their own can decide if the rate of investment,
the return I should say of investment, is worth it.
To Doug Gottlieb Show, I'm Jason fitz filling in for Doug,
and think about this. Think about what we're saying here.
I grew up a UNLV basketball fan. I'm sitting here
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in a UNLV hoodie doing this with the Larry Johnson
jersey behind me right like, UNLV is in my blood,
always has been now. When I was a little kid
in the late eighties early nineties, the concept that UNLV
would ever not be competitive, it just seems like it
is far fetched. There's no way, there's no way. Well,
UNLV hasn't been sustainably good for a long time. Can
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they be sure? Now? You can get what you want.
You just got to find a way to earn it.
You just got to find a way to put it together.
If you're in a shiny city like Vegas, you gotta
go to all the casinos, you gotta go to all
the Muluf family, the rich money that's in that city.
And you got to figure out if people want to
make basketball a priority. And I say figure out because
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that's part of the gold in all of this. Each
school can figure out what they give a damn about.
I lived in Nashville for more than twenty years, and
my first gig in this business was doing morning radio
on an ESPN radio affiliate in Nashville, Tennessee. And I
remember talking at the time to Vanderbilt's athletic director and
asking when Vandy was going to invest in football, and
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the answer I got, I'll never forget. The athletic director
looked at me without hesitation at the time and said, never,
Our kids don't care. And there was a real poignant
moment to that of saying, Hey, if the kids going
to school here don't really care about football, then why
should I put all of these resources towards it. Now
we don't like that as a fan, like everybody's fan
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sits back. Well, you have to invest in it, No,
you don't. Now every school can decide. And now just
being a brand isn't good enough. Coach Cow's going to
go to Arkansas. He's taking his entire coaching staff with him.
So what does that mean? Means Arkansas is about to
get very good, But it also means that Arkansas is
not going to be good enough to win an Addie
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because we all realize that's part of the conversation of
why he wore outhers welcome in Kentucky, but also he's
in Arkansas. I've spent time around Arkansas. It's different there.
Basketball hits different there. Basketball it's okay to say basketball
hits different in different schools. I'll go back to Connecticut.
Hurley just wins the national championship. The name of the
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restaurant he goes to in Hartford as Sally leaders goes
there all the time after Big wins, gets himself with Margarita.
When I was with ESPN, I lived about ten minutes
from Sally Leda's. You could stand outside the door on
a regular weeknight, stand outside waiting to get a table
for an hour. Hurley's there stand outside waiting to get
a regular table for an hour doesn't make a difference,
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right Like, he can sit there with his family, unbothered,
have a meal. He's dirty rich doing it. He can
be a national championship coach with a national championship team,
and he can get back to titles. He become only
the third team ever to win back to back championship
games by fifteen or more points. He can sit there
and build on a back to back with a realistic
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shot at a three peat. And he can do it
all without having to worry about what anybody says to
him when he's walking down the street, because I'm telling you,
they're not bothering herly in Kentucky. You think that's the case,
You think being good is good enough for Kentucky. No,
it isn't. But guess what now Coaches have options, Now,
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players have options. Now they can go wherever they want,
to do whatever they want, and they can make it
however they want. And that, my friends, is a golden
age for college sports where you can't simply rely on
the fact that your big blue nation nobody gives a
damn anymore. Think about that. You can't walk into the
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room to a recruit and just swag around and say
we're Kentucky Basketball walking into the living room like you're
Vince McMahon walking down the aisle for wwe ain't nobody
blinking an eye of that. You can't walk in the
room and say, well, we've got more money, because what
if we just learned even if you have more money,
not everybody wants it. Whether you're a player or a coach.
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You're looking around and saying, nah, I got other options.
I can get to the NBA a lot of ways.
I can get to a national championship a lot of ways.
And if the objective is to win and to do
it with quality of life, you absolutely can do that,
possibly easier. You can do that anywhere not named Kentucky.
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You can't tell me, at the end of the day
that monotony doesn't get boring at some point, knowing which
brands are going to be in it, wowing which brands aren't,
at some point, looking around the entire landscape and saying, oh,
college football, here we go again. This year. Coming into
the season, everybody thought college football is going to be
boring because we always get the same couple of teams
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fighting for a championship. Where's the drama, right right? At
some point, So many of the people that are screaming
from the mountaintops about the death of college sports are
not acknowledging the actual facts in this situation. The actual
facts or their ratings are up everywhere. The actual facts
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are that money is up everywhere, and the actual facts
show you more players have better opportunities to play than ever.
They have agency to invest in themselves and do it
however they want to, whenever they want to, wherever they
want to, and they can win doing it. If you're
telling me college sports are dying, and I'm fully aware,
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I am not stupid. I listen to Doug. I am
aware of the fact that I am on the exact
opposite side of what you usually hear from Doug Gottlieb
on this show, in this timeslop. And I'm telling you
Doug is wrong, because if you're telling me that college
sports has an issue, you're not looking at the fact
that more people are consuming it. You're not looking at
the fact that more people are making money off of it.
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You're not looking at the fact that more people are
getting opportunity, and for the first time, we're getting unprecedented
results that are not predictable. That's what people want sports
with the original reality TV show, right and what happens
on reality TV shows. Everybody wants drama. Sure, you want
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a star that after a while, You want drama. You
don't want your stars get along. You want your stars
arguing with each other. You want something you can flock to.
You want to see Katelyn versus Angel We all saw it.
You want to see Katelyn versus Don Staley, we all
saw it. You want to see drama. You want to
see unpredictability. You want to see all of these things
that for a period of time college sports wasn't given us.
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But giving it to us now, they're giving it to
us in the results that we see on the field.
They're giving it to us in the results we see
on the court. I was there. I stood on that
court after Connecticut won the championship. I stood in that
stadium and I watched Purdue fans for the first time
in fifty five years, watch their team going for a
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national championship. I talked to them afterwards and hearing the
joy in their voice for a magical season, knowing that
they were taken down by a juggernaut, and that juggernaut
wasn't named Duke, that juggernaut wasn't named Kansas, that juggernaut
wasn't named Kentucky. Zukon, I'm looking around at a landscape
in college sports, and I'm telling you right now, if
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it's less predictable than ever, if players are going to
more places than ever to play, that means more great
athletes are getting a shot to be their best. If
coaches are deciding that they'd rather not leave different places,
if coaches are deciding that they're comfortable where they are,
all of a sudden, it's no longer just a race
to try and get to second best, knowing full well
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that the blue bloods will always win, because at the
end of the day, the blue blood that we know.
We can argue whether Connecticut's of blue blood now, but
the blue blood that we know, the brands that we
acknowledge all the time, didn't win that championship. That brand
that gets whatever they want didn't keep their coach, and
that brand when they went back to market to try
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and replace, didn't get their first option, didn't get their
second option. Maybe didn't even get their third option. And
maybe it works out. But the one thing we know
without question is that right now, college sports are better
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Trust is incredibly difficult to get. It's incredibly easy to lose,
and it makes transparency more and more important, especially when
we talk about difficult issues around gambling in sports. And
we have to remember through all of this there are
different layers and benefit of the doubt is something that
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maybe Major League Baseball doesn't deserve, but last time I check,
the Department of Justice does and that is key for
every conversation we have about show heyl Toani. It's the
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a rush to judgment. Stop me if you've heard this
before in life, A rush to form opinions, a rush
how could he? Well, he had to have It must
mean The amount of times that we simply decide what
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makes sense because we're using our own life, our own experiences,
and our own logic, and then we're wrong is stunning,
but it never stops us from doing it. It's called
confirmation bias. It's something that if you talk to prosecutors
at a high level, you talk to juris, you talk
to people around legal issues, they'll tell you all the time.
The confirmation bias is essentially saying, this is the outcome
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I think makes the most sense, so I'm going to
stack all the bricks to make that outcome happen because
it's what makes the most sense to me. And it's
exactly what we've been dealing with from day one. When
it comes to show Hey, everybody heard the same thing.
Oh my gosh, this translator, well he must be taking
the fall. There's no way a translator was taking money
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from him. There's no way the money could leave his accountant.
He wouldn't know. There's absolutely no way any of this
could be true based on what How often do we see, unfortunately,
seniors that are taken advantage of by con artists that
take all of their money and leave them with absolutely nothing.
And we sit there and we say, how could you
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what happens all the time? We can't make it make sense.
I can tell you fairly, definitively. I've been lucky enough
in my life to interact with people that have made
a lot of money, and almost every one of those
people has a small group that does have access to accounts.
They would have the ability if they wanted to do
terrible things to do them. But we never wanted to
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pause and at least figure out if that made sense.
And even from the outset, it was, well, how can
they let show Hey get near the pitcher's Mountain? How
can they let him get near baseball? How can we
let him have a single atpat You can't let him
have anything to do with the game. He certainly must
have bet on it, at least on what How many
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times do we have to sit down and have the
same conversation as a society about maybe it's better to
get it right and then get it first. How many
times do we have to sit down as a society
and say, hey, let's let this play out before we
make big, sweeping generalizations. And now, how many times do
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we have to turn around and beg people, beg people
to listen to actual information when they made up their mind. See,
here's the thing. Conspiracy theorists all these things like, look,
I'll be loud and proud on this. I don't give
a damn about your conspiracy theories. I don't care if
we never walked on the moon. Doesn't it change my Friday?
I don't. I don't care if you believe all of
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these things. The government's up to this and they're trying
to take that I'd like, I don't care, y'all. Nothing
I'm gonna do is gonna change any of that. Nothing
I'm gonna do is gonna impact any of that, And
whatever any of that means isn't gonna change my Friday.
So my reality is my reality. I'm just gonna live it.
You can call a blind ignorance if you want. I
don't care. But where I'm right and where it affords
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me more luxury is that when information starts to come out,
I don't immediately have to make somebody the bad guy.
How many people from the outset we're convinced to show,
Hey did everything wrong, and the Major League Baseball would
just cover it all up. That's why I'm glad personally
that the Department of Justice got involved. That's why I'm
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glad this became a criminal investigation. And then thinking all
the people that from the beginning said, well, show Hey
won't answer these questions. I mean, have they brought charges
or they doing these things. I don't know if anybody's
ever been involved in criminal investigations before. But less is more,
the less you say, the better look. I watch Law
and Order all the time. Now, there's from a personal
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life standpoint, my brother served seven years for possession with
the intent to distribute, So certainly I grew up around
understanding the way the prison system works and understanding somewhat
some of the legal system. But let's just go all
the way down to just law and order. Right. I
watched Law and Order all the time. That's the first
thing you learn if you're watching Law and Order. Don't
say anything nothing. There is not a like. Look, I'm
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just telling you. If everybody I love disappeared and the
cops walked into my house and said where are they,
the first thing I'd say is lawyer, Why? Because I've
watched enough Law and Order. I just don't want to
get some pend on me. It's not even a conspiracy there.
I don't want to say the wrong thing. I don't
want to do the wrong thing. I want to get
a lawyer and then have a lawyer help me through everything.
That doesn't mean I'm inn is. It doesn't mean I'm guilty.
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It just means that I watched enough Law and Order
to be scared of everything. I'm a coward. Okay, see
your show. Hey, you just found out the person you
trust the most is taking millions of dollars from you.
Not uncommon in the acting world, not uncommon in the
entertainment world, but seems uncommon in sports. He's taking millions
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of dollars from you. The person you trusted the most
has stolen from you, and not just a little bit
of money, a lot of money. Now, all of a sudden,
we're analyzing everything he says, everything he does, everything he did,
everything he didn't do, all for what. As you heard
in the beginning, the former interpreter Ebey, accused of stealing
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more than sixteen million dollars over two years, has been booked.
Federal authorities are involved, and that's where this becomes important,
because he's being charged with the actual real crimes. Bank
fraud carries a maximum fine of up to a million
dollars and over up to thirty years in prison, according
to federal sentencing guidelines. Also, US Attorney Martin Estrada said Thursday,
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there's no evidence so Toani had any knowledge of Missouri's
gambling activities or his use of his bank account to
pay his bills. Imagine that, Imagine everything that we have
wasted time saying, presuming that absolutely it must be this,
Only to find out that the US Attorney and that
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you think they're protecting baseball. You think the Department of
Justice is out here worried about what happens to a
baseball star. No, they're not. They're just doing their jobs.
At this point, they're just doing their jobs. And so
what do we know? We know according to the charges
at this point that from all of the evidence they've
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been able to find, which includes taxt and phone calls,
it includes all sorts of information from coding. If you
go out and I read the whole affidavit, and it's
pretty alarming when you start to read it, how much
encrypted technology was used and how much they're actually analyzing
all of the communication that was happening. And from everything
they've analyzed, they can find no indication that Epay bet
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on any baseball number one. They can also find no
indication that sho Hey had any idea. So, now what
do you have? One of the greatest stars of his
current generation in sports, all of sports, not just baseball.
You just had somebody incredibly close to him take massive
amounts of money, massive amounts of money. It's not uncommon
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for many musicians when they're starting to make it to
sort of get a business manager, and that business manager
helps you through everything. It's not uncommon that business manager
has access to your accounts and then every few months
you sit down with that business account a business manager,
and you go over your accounts you're supposed to. I
know a lot of guys that aren't great at that.
It gets really confusing and complicated when you start talking
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about financials on all these things, and you sort of
got to trust the people that you hire. So what
do you do if the person you trust the most,
because you're just not good with handling all that, is
the one that's out here doing all this behind your back.
You feel stupid, You feel used, You feel like the
person that you relied on the most is let you down.
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And through all of it, now everybody that watches your sport,
covers your sport, thinks about your sport, has decided that
you're actually a bad guy doing the one thing that
you can do. You're betting on your sport. We spent
weeks saying the name Pete Rose and show Hey Otani
in the same sentence, with absolutely no evidence. We spent
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weeks associating one of the worst things you can do
in sports, specifically in sports particularly. We all know there
are plenty of people in sports that have done terrible
things in life, but when it comes to just on
the field, betting on sports when you're an athlete gives
everybody the hebe chiepis, and we immediately presume the worst,
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the sort of offense that would keep show Hay off
of a baseball field, keep show Hay out of our content,
of our concepts of baseball. We presumed the absolute worst
at every step. Why because we applied our own personal
logic to a situation we knew nothing about. Yet we've
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learned nothing from it because we'll do it again next time.
And I'm not lecturing. I'm not talking down to anybody.
I've been part of the problem, certainly, we all have.
I guess the question is when do we just default
to being human beings in these situations? When do we
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default to letting things play out? When as a culture
do we actually decide that we believe in innocent until
proven guilty. When do we decide that the information we
have today doesn't have to create a hot take, it
doesn't have to create a news story. It can simply
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create analysis based solely on what we know right now.
I say it all the time. One of the most
interesting things about what we do in sports talk is
we are asked genuinely to write a book report after
every chapter of a book. The thing of it is,
I can't come on radio or do any of my
work with Yahoo Sports and decide that I'm not going
to say anything about football season or college football until
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it's over. That would make me bad at my job.
So as a result, I have to take the information
we have week one results figure out what we're gonna
talk about for the next thirty forty hours of content
we're making that week. What are our takeaways right after
two weeks might look a little different. What are our
takeaways after five weeks? What are our takeaways? This is
a process, so we're forced to write a book report
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every single week when it comes to what we're seeing
on the field, which means we might after two chapters
say Wow, this is best book I've ever read, and
by the time you get to the end of it,
you're like, man, this thing sucked. How many times have
you watched a movie and if they stop the movie
fifteen minutes and you'd be like, Oh, this thing's great,
And by the time you get to the end of it,
you're like, it's trash. I hated the ending. Right. We
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don't have that luxury in sports when it comes to
the product we see on the field. Our jobs in
sports media is to talk about things every single day
that they're happening. Our joy as fans is about talking
about things every single day that they're happening. The question is,
when are we as a society going to establish some
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level of guidelines on how we approach the things that
aren't just about what's happening on the field. When are
we as a society going to decide that we're not
going to approach everything like we know everything because we
don't have to. All we had to do when everything
broke with show, he was say this is worth keeping
an eye on, and as we get more information, we
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will let you know what we find out. That's what
we should have done, that's what we didn't do. And now,
because so many people made up their mind, and because
as a society we don't like to say, whoop's my bad.
As a society, we've already decided innocence or guilt, and
there's not a fact that we'll let get in the
way of that. It's unfortunate because the one thing I
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know is I'll always stand up and say, man, I
was wrong about that. I do it about my takes.
I do it when I analyze people the wrong way,
I do it in my personal life, and I do
it in front of a microphone. Maybe we could do
it a little less if we took this Dodgers example
as one more reason that the best thing we can
do is hold off on the sweeping generalized statements until
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we get all the information. So, Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio, I'm Jason fitz filling in. All right,
we're gonna get to some of this draft talk because
you've heard a ton of it, and I'm telling you
there is one rumor happening around the NFL Draft right
now that is absolutely mind blowing that you should not
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for Doug. We'll get to Tom Brady in a little bit.
I don't want to cram that conversation in here and
not give it to justice. I'm just saying, everybody, get
ready to roll your eyes a bunch. In the meantime,
I'm still rolling my eyes. Monsey brought it up a
minute ago. I want to bring everybody in on this, Shay.
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I always say, we've got a crossover statue at this
point of Allen iverson the first part of this to
me is like you got to ask ourselves what's the
point of a statue? Right like? Because to me, the
point of a statue is I want to make sure
that every generation of fan that ever walks into this
arena or around this stadium, or around this team is
going to know who this person was and why it's significant.
(29:23):
Right Like, there's a there's a moment in the stadium
for my beloved Raiders in an Allegiance stadium. They've got the
eternal flame at the end of it that signifies al Davis. Well,
it's huge, it's massive anybody that comes to the stadium
for the first time. At the bottom of it, there's
a whole statement about it. If you know we're going
to reach a generation someday where fans don't remember who
Ale Davis was, it's a great way, Like I understand
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why they do that. It makes a statement and it
lets future generations of fans understand the impact prior players
or people in power had. I don't understand what you're
doing with the like Heisman sized crossover trophy right like
MANSI tell me I'm wrong here, But this the more
I look at it, the smaller kids. You know. It's
actually quite funny.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
In fact, Carrie Rhodes, who is a former NFL safety
and fills in from time to time as a as
a co host here at FSR, he tweeted, AI statue
is smaller than the charm he wears on his necklace.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And it's so true. I mean no, but yes, it's
so small.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Why it does look like a Hei slight the size
of a hisband trophy.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I mean, listen, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
It's still an honor, but why, I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Thing is like a bad statue. What's worse no statue
or a bad statue?
Speaker 8 (30:39):
I don't know, Like, I mean, hold on, I was
just gonna say what we've seen bad statues where they
mess up the face and you know, or like like
what was there.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Was a one?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Yes, Ronaldo was the one. There's been several others. But
I think I don't know if this was a cost
issue or they don't do it. They were just going
with a different mindset of like not all statues have
to either be life size or larger than life.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I don't have a problem with it so much.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yes, maybe it won't be noticed as much, but Ai
is one of the greatest players in seventy six ers history.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
But he never won an NBA title with them.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
He's memorable and no, listen, I'm coming from the Caitlin
Clark camp, and so I don't think that that's always like,
you know, you're never one of the greatest of all time.
He is one of the greatest sixers of all time.
I just think they went with a different mindset, a
little different idea of where he's just gonna make a
little smaller. It's gonna be a little bit more personal.
You can go up to it and look at it
a little closer.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's just it.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
They ran out of money. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
They sent the drawings to like a team you or
sine or like wish and they're like, I need a statue,
and they're like, no worries, We're gonna have this one
mini me for six weeks. It's like six weeks later,
like I did this once where like because you know,
I like huge Halloween displays and like Christmas displays. And
one year I was like, okay, like I saw this
add on some random website. You never go from the
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random website, and it was for like this what looked
like a massive Grinch that was like moved and like
made all these noises and it was wild cheap, and
I was like, I don't know why this is cheap
and I'm buying it. Turns out, you know, then there
was much credit card fraud on that. I actually got
this tiny like it didn't look like the Grinch. It
looked like somebody had melted the Grinch, and like it
was a weird deformed thing that was like I don't know,
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maybe four inches tall, like the picture made it look
like it was six feet. Like this is what I
think happened. I think they ordered a regular size, normal statue.
They got it, and they're like, well, nobody tell AI,
and we'll just hope this thing works out. That's that's
the only way I think this works.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I'm comparing it to the Rocky statue. Have you seen that.
It's it's like yeah, I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and it's fictional.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Yeah, but I mean, how much do you think that
statue weighs like his statue? Not rocky statue? I know
what you can think about this? When when but in
your bucket?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yause?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
When when when I was played, he weighed one sixty
you know what I mean? So I think it has
something to do with the weight. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I don't know what's more ridiculous masters being over rated?
Are you thinking that this statue weighs one hundred and
sixty pounds?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Because that's what AI.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
No, man, I'm trying to He's like, I'm trying to
make sense to it.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I love the concept of the pitch meeting, and I'm
just saying, if I'm sitting if Shay, if you're the artist,
and I'm sitting at the table at the pitch meeting,
and you walk in and you've got this tiny, tiny, tiny,
tiny little statue, and I'm like, I don't get it.
It's so small. And then you look at me and
this in the sales pitchway you wink and you're like,
but the statue weighs exactly as much as a I
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did when he played. If that's the thing that makes
me say yes to tiny statue. I'm out like I
should fire.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Too when you put it that way. Yeah, I'm just
honestly trying to make sense of it, because.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Have you seen the video of him looking at his statue.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
He has to look down, he's yeah, he's he's I'm
double the size of his statue.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Right, Yeah, He's literally looking down at his own statue.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
He has to crouch a little.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Bit six listen though, you could tell Ai it meant
a lot to him. He was emotional after he watched it,
So that's I think that's the most important thing is
that he looks at that and he just feels the
reverence coming from the organization, and he was all choked up.
And to me, that's what's the most important, is that
he was just like, Wow, I feel honored to be
here today.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So let's right and let's just be honest. Though. That
shows you that Ai is a former athlete that has
done really well in life. Because I have this opinion
that the more successful athletes, actors, musicians get because everybody
that's around them in some capacities typically getting paid, nobody
around them will actually say anything. So everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, no,
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I love it, love it, you know full well, Iowa Sam.
If all of us walked up and Fox Sports Radio
was putting a statue of me outside, right, and it's like,
finally I have made it. I've got a statue of five.
It would take you thirty seconds after that, fifteen seconds
after the unveiling before you just started busting my chops
like never before at a tiny statue, like if you
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are the normal spot in life most of us are
at and you're like, guys, come look, they've got this statue.
And then it gets unveiled and you realize that you
really have to get like your phone out and zoom
in on the picture to see the details on the eyes,
because it's too small to get a picture.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
It's a glorified g I Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, you'd be mocking. There would be tons of mockery.
I'd be mocked openly.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
As long as they get the face and the body
right and don't pull a rinaldo where it looks like
a weird uh, like a weird clay. Someone did some
some sculpting and it came out with like they smudged
the face or something.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I think that's what's important. But yeah, it is. It
is kind of comically small. It's an oversized g I
Joe essentially.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
So you're telling me also because he didn't win a
championship that when eventually they put a Caitlin Clark's.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Statue, No, no, I really did, tey kit. I think
a tiny Caitlin right under uh, right under Dan Gable
or who's right outside carved rock area.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I think that'd be kind of cool. Tiny Caitlyn r
with me.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You there is not a chance in hell that you
would look if Caitlyn Clark was standing in the room
next to you. You look at it and be like,
you know what you need tiny statu.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
I think it's just a mindset, you know, you know,
it's it's uh you can have. They don't always have
to be the same six feet which is Kaitlyn Clark.
That doesn't have to be twelve feet. I'm just I'm
just saying it's a different approach here.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I would implore everybody go look at the social media
pictures of the statue. Like I said earlier, it looks
like somebody went to Funko Pop and said, can you
make me a funko of a statue? Of an NBA player,
and that's what we got. Super collectible looks super collectible,
just doesn't necessarily have the awe, especially in a city
that decided. And Anthony Gargana will crush me for saying this,
(36:28):
but my co host An The Fellas on Saturday Morning, like,
I mean, you gave a fictional movie character a life size,
massive statue, and that's what you gave an actual human being.
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As you just heard, Mark Pope is the new coach
for Kentucky men's basketball. Think about what you've seen in
the last week. You've seen one of the biggest names
in college basketball walk away from one of the biggest
brands in all of sports, and you've seen that sport
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desperately cling to try and find a coach to replace him.
And through all of that, what have we learned? College
sports are better than ever. It's a Doug Gottlieb Show.
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college sports, in college basketball for a generation, what's a
blue blood? Who's a blue blood and what's it mean
to be one? Well, what it's meant for an entire
generation is that if you were one of the select few,
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you got what you wanted, If you were one of
the few schools that had that brand equity, you got
who you wanted, You got the players you wanted, you
got the coaches you wanted, you had the money you wanted,
You always had the facilities you wanted. You wanted for nothing,
And as a result, what do we see year in
and year out. This isn't even just a college basketball conversation.
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This is a college sports conversation because if we now
live in a world where a coach at Kentucky will
leave by choice to go to Arkansas for basketball, and
then Kentucky will be left scrambling backing up a Brinks
truck to a Connecticut coach just says nah, I'm good,
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I don't want anything to do with that. Then taking
that Brinks cut truck all the way down to Baylor
and saying please, sir, we want you to come, and
somebody's saying, no, I'm happy at Baylor. I don't need Kentucky.
They had to go through the list. We're not talking
about Kentucky's first choice, we're not talking about their second choice,
might not even be talking about their third choice. And
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what we're reminded through in all of that, you can
have all the money in the world, you can have
all the brand equity in the world. You can be
the blue blood that everybody resonates with. And in today's
college basketball that doesn't necessarily give you an edge up
to everybody's sitting here telling you why college sports are dying.
(02:49):
Everybody's sitting here telling you why the model's not sustainable.
Everybody wants to tell you it's killing the game that
we love, is it? Because let's look at college basketball
right now. Who are the three most dominant teams in
college basketball this year throughout the course of the entire
regular season. Houston, Purdue, Connecticut. You know what name I
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didn't say there. I didn't say North Carolina, I didn't
say Duke, I didn't say Kentucky, didn't say Kansas. We're
talking about non traditional powerhouses rising and how do they rise?
Because in today's college sports world, it's finally going to
be the type of world where if you want it,
you can get it. Because Nils and collectives for all
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the conversation we want to have of how bad it is,
and oh my god, I can't believe amateurism is lost
in sports like it ever really existed. But furthermore, I
don't care. Can't take the toothpaste to put it back
in the tube. It's out. So now what Now every
single school that wants to be competitive can be. Now
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every single school that wants to find the money to
put themselves in the class of the elite can do it.
And now all of a sudden, talent is spread out.
Look at college football. If you look at the top
recruits in college football over the course of the last
two years, we've seen those recruits spread out to more
schools than ever each of the last two years. Why
because now you can go a million different places. We
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get college football coaches. Nick Saban leaves all of a sudden,
Alabama scrambles to figure out what's gonna happen there, and
Washington figures out what they got to scramble to figure
out what's gonna happen there. Happen to be good buddies
with Lance Lightpol, the Kansas football head coach. I watched
all of that from the sides with my fingers just dancing, thinking, Oh,
(04:38):
I'm gonna watch my buddy go wherever he wants. What
do you do, stay of Kansas? Why? Because you don't
have to go somewhere else now to make it to
the big time. Every school can make a decision to compete.
Every school can make a decision to become involved in
investing in players. Every school can decide every single year
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how much they're willing to put in. And every school
on their own can decide if the rate of investment,
the return I should say of investment, is worth it.
To Doug Gottlieb Show, I'm Jason fitz filling in for Doug,
and think about this. Think about what we're saying here.
I grew up a UNLV basketball fan. I'm sitting here
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in a UNLV hoodie doing this with the Larry Johnson
jersey behind me right like, UNLV is in my blood,
always has been now. When I was a little kid
in the late eighties early nineties, the concept that UNLV
would ever not be competitive, it just seems like it
is far fetched. There's no way, there's no way. Well,
UNLV hasn't been sustainably good for a long time. Can
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they be sure? Now? You can get what you want.
You just got to find a way to earn it.
You just got to find a way to put it together.
If you're in a shiny city like Vegas, you gotta
go to all the casinos, you gotta go to all
the Muluf family, the rich money that's in that city.
And you got to figure out if people want to
make basketball a priority. And I say figure out because
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that's part of the gold in all of this. Each
school can figure out what they give a damn about.
I lived in Nashville for more than twenty years, and
my first gig in this business was doing morning radio
on an ESPN radio affiliate in Nashville, Tennessee. And I
remember talking at the time to Vanderbilt's athletic director and
asking when Vandy was going to invest in football, and
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the answer I got, I'll never forget. The athletic director
looked at me without hesitation at the time and said, never,
Our kids don't care. And there was a real poignant
moment to that of saying, Hey, if the kids going
to school here don't really care about football, then why
should I put all of these resources towards it. Now
we don't like that as a fan, like everybody's fan
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sits back. Well, you have to invest in it, No,
you don't. Now every school can decide. And now just
being a brand isn't good enough. Coach Cow's going to
go to Arkansas. He's taking his entire coaching staff with him.
So what does that mean? Means Arkansas is about to
get very good, But it also means that Arkansas is
not going to be good enough to win an Addie
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because we all realize that's part of the conversation of
why he wore outhers welcome in Kentucky, but also he's
in Arkansas. I've spent time around Arkansas. It's different there.
Basketball hits different there. Basketball it's okay to say basketball
hits different in different schools. I'll go back to Connecticut.
Hurley just wins the national championship. The name of the
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restaurant he goes to in Hartford as Sally leaders goes
there all the time after Big wins, gets himself with Margarita.
When I was with ESPN, I lived about ten minutes
from Sally Leda's. You could stand outside the door on
a regular weeknight, stand outside waiting to get a table
for an hour. Hurley's there stand outside waiting to get
a regular table for an hour doesn't make a difference,
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right Like, he can sit there with his family, unbothered,
have a meal. He's dirty rich doing it. He can
be a national championship coach with a national championship team,
and he can get back to titles. He become only
the third team ever to win back to back championship
games by fifteen or more points. He can sit there
and build on a back to back with a realistic
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shot at a three peat. And he can do it
all without having to worry about what anybody says to
him when he's walking down the street, because I'm telling you,
they're not bothering herly in Kentucky. You think that's the case,
You think being good is good enough for Kentucky. No,
it isn't. But guess what now Coaches have options, Now,
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players have options. Now they can go wherever they want,
to do whatever they want, and they can make it
however they want. And that, my friends, is a golden
age for college sports where you can't simply rely on
the fact that your big blue nation nobody gives a
damn anymore. Think about that. You can't walk into the
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room to a recruit and just swag around and say
we're Kentucky Basketball walking into the living room like you're
Vince McMahon walking down the aisle for wwe ain't nobody
blinking an eye of that. You can't walk in the
room and say, well, we've got more money, because what
if we just learned even if you have more money,
not everybody wants it. Whether you're a player or a coach.
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You're looking around and saying, nah, I got other options.
I can get to the NBA a lot of ways.
I can get to a national championship a lot of ways.
And if the objective is to win and to do
it with quality of life, you absolutely can do that,
possibly easier. You can do that anywhere not named Kentucky.
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You can't tell me, at the end of the day
that monotony doesn't get boring at some point, knowing which
brands are going to be in it, wowing which brands aren't,
at some point, looking around the entire landscape and saying, oh,
college football, here we go again. This year. Coming into
the season, everybody thought college football is going to be
boring because we always get the same couple of teams
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fighting for a championship. Where's the drama, right right? At
some point, So many of the people that are screaming
from the mountaintops about the death of college sports are
not acknowledging the actual facts in this situation. The actual
facts or their ratings are up everywhere. The actual facts
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are that money is up everywhere, and the actual facts
show you more players have better opportunities to play than ever.
They have agency to invest in themselves and do it
however they want to, whenever they want to, wherever they
want to, and they can win doing it. If you're
telling me college sports are dying, and I'm fully aware,
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I am not stupid. I listen to Doug. I am
aware of the fact that I am on the exact
opposite side of what you usually hear from Doug Gottlieb
on this show, in this timeslop. And I'm telling you
Doug is wrong, because if you're telling me that college
sports has an issue, you're not looking at the fact
that more people are consuming it. You're not looking at
the fact that more people are making money off of it.
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You're not looking at the fact that more people are
getting opportunity, and for the first time, we're getting unprecedented
results that are not predictable. That's what people want sports
with the original reality TV show, right and what happens
on reality TV shows. Everybody wants drama. Sure, you want
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a star that after a while, You want drama. You
don't want your stars get along. You want your stars
arguing with each other. You want something you can flock to.
You want to see Katelyn versus Angel We all saw it.
You want to see Katelyn versus Don Staley, we all
saw it. You want to see drama. You want to
see unpredictability. You want to see all of these things
that for a period of time college sports wasn't given us.
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But giving it to us now, they're giving it to
us in the results that we see on the field.
They're giving it to us in the results we see
on the court. I was there. I stood on that
court after Connecticut won the championship. I stood in that
stadium and I watched Purdue fans for the first time
in fifty five years, watch their team going for a
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national championship. I talked to them afterwards and hearing the
joy in their voice for a magical season, knowing that
they were taken down by a juggernaut, and that juggernaut
wasn't named Duke, that juggernaut wasn't named Kansas, that juggernaut
wasn't named Kentucky. Zukon, I'm looking around at a landscape
in college sports, and I'm telling you right now, if
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it's less predictable than ever, if players are going to
more places than ever to play, that means more great
athletes are getting a shot to be their best. If
coaches are deciding that they'd rather not leave different places,
if coaches are deciding that they're comfortable where they are,
all of a sudden, it's no longer just a race
to try and get to second best, knowing full well
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that the blue bloods will always win, because at the
end of the day, the blue blood that we know.
We can argue whether Connecticut's of blue blood now, but
the blue blood that we know, the brands that we
acknowledge all the time, didn't win that championship. That brand
that gets whatever they want didn't keep their coach, and
that brand when they went back to market to try
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and replace, didn't get their first option, didn't get their
second option. Maybe didn't even get their third option. And
maybe it works out. But the one thing we know
without question is that right now, college sports are better
than ever. Coming up next to on the Fox Live
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we talk about difficult issues around gambling in sports. And
we have to remember through all of this there are
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makes sense because we're using our own life, our own experiences,
and our own logic, and then we're wrong is stunning,
but it never stops us from doing it. It's called
confirmation bias. It's something that if you talk to prosecutors
at a high level, you talk to juris, you talk
to people around legal issues, they'll tell you all the time.
The confirmation bias is essentially saying, this is the outcome
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I think makes the most sense, so I'm going to
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the fall. There's no way a translator was taking money
(16:51):
from him. There's no way the money could leave his accountant.
He wouldn't know. There's absolutely no way any of this
could be true based on what How often do we see, unfortunately,
seniors that are taken advantage of by con artists that
take all of their money and leave them with absolutely nothing.
And we sit there and we say, how could you
(17:14):
what happens all the time? We can't make it make sense.
I can tell you fairly, definitively. I've been lucky enough
in my life to interact with people that have made
a lot of money, and almost every one of those
people has a small group that does have access to accounts.
They would have the ability if they wanted to do
terrible things to do them. But we never wanted to
(17:34):
pause and at least figure out if that made sense.
And even from the outset, it was, well, how can
they let show Hey get near the pitcher's Mountain? How
can they let him get near baseball? How can we
let him have a single atpat You can't let him
have anything to do with the game. He certainly must
have bet on it, at least on what How many
(17:56):
times do we have to sit down and have the
same conversation as a society about maybe it's better to
get it right and then get it first. How many
times do we have to sit down as a society
and say, hey, let's let this play out before we
make big, sweeping generalizations. And now, how many times do
(18:16):
we have to turn around and beg people, beg people
to listen to actual information when they made up their mind. See,
here's the thing. Conspiracy theorists all these things like, look,
I'll be loud and proud on this. I don't give
a damn about your conspiracy theories. I don't care if
we never walked on the moon. Doesn't it change my Friday?
I don't. I don't care if you believe all of
(18:38):
these things. The government's up to this and they're trying
to take that I'd like, I don't care, y'all. Nothing
I'm gonna do is gonna change any of that. Nothing
I'm gonna do is gonna impact any of that, And
whatever any of that means isn't gonna change my Friday.
So my reality is my reality. I'm just gonna live it.
You can call a blind ignorance if you want. I
don't care. But where I'm right and where it affords
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me more luxury is that when information starts to come out,
I don't immediately have to make somebody the bad guy.
How many people from the outset we're convinced to show,
Hey did everything wrong, and the Major League Baseball would
just cover it all up. That's why I'm glad personally
that the Department of Justice got involved. That's why I'm
(19:22):
glad this became a criminal investigation. And then thinking all
the people that from the beginning said, well, show Hey
won't answer these questions. I mean, have they brought charges
or they doing these things. I don't know if anybody's
ever been involved in criminal investigations before. But less is more,
the less you say, the better look. I watch Law
and Order all the time. Now, there's from a personal
(19:44):
life standpoint, my brother served seven years for possession with
the intent to distribute, So certainly I grew up around
understanding the way the prison system works and understanding somewhat
some of the legal system. But let's just go all
the way down to just law and order. Right. I
watched Law and Order all the time. That's the first
thing you learn if you're watching Law and Order. Don't
say anything nothing. There is not a like. Look, I'm
(20:08):
just telling you. If everybody I love disappeared and the
cops walked into my house and said where are they,
the first thing I'd say is lawyer, Why? Because I've
watched enough Law and Order. I just don't want to
get some pend on me. It's not even a conspiracy there.
I don't want to say the wrong thing. I don't
want to do the wrong thing. I want to get
a lawyer and then have a lawyer help me through everything.
That doesn't mean I'm inn is. It doesn't mean I'm guilty.
(20:30):
It just means that I watched enough Law and Order
to be scared of everything. I'm a coward. Okay, see
your show. Hey, you just found out the person you
trust the most is taking millions of dollars from you.
Not uncommon in the acting world, not uncommon in the
entertainment world, but seems uncommon in sports. He's taking millions
(20:51):
of dollars from you. The person you trusted the most
has stolen from you, and not just a little bit
of money, a lot of money. Now, all of a sudden,
we're analyzing everything he says, everything he does, everything he did,
everything he didn't do, all for what. As you heard
in the beginning, the former interpreter Ebey, accused of stealing
(21:16):
more than sixteen million dollars over two years, has been booked.
Federal authorities are involved, and that's where this becomes important,
because he's being charged with the actual real crimes. Bank
fraud carries a maximum fine of up to a million
dollars and over up to thirty years in prison, according
to federal sentencing guidelines. Also, US Attorney Martin Estrada said Thursday,
(21:40):
there's no evidence so Toani had any knowledge of Missouri's
gambling activities or his use of his bank account to
pay his bills. Imagine that, Imagine everything that we have
wasted time saying, presuming that absolutely it must be this,
Only to find out that the US Attorney and that
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you think they're protecting baseball. You think the Department of
Justice is out here worried about what happens to a
baseball star. No, they're not. They're just doing their jobs.
At this point, they're just doing their jobs. And so
what do we know? We know according to the charges
at this point that from all of the evidence they've
(22:23):
been able to find, which includes taxt and phone calls,
it includes all sorts of information from coding. If you
go out and I read the whole affidavit, and it's
pretty alarming when you start to read it, how much
encrypted technology was used and how much they're actually analyzing
all of the communication that was happening. And from everything
they've analyzed, they can find no indication that Epay bet
(22:45):
on any baseball number one. They can also find no
indication that sho Hey had any idea. So, now what
do you have? One of the greatest stars of his
current generation in sports, all of sports, not just baseball.
You just had somebody incredibly close to him take massive
amounts of money, massive amounts of money. It's not uncommon
(23:09):
for many musicians when they're starting to make it to
sort of get a business manager, and that business manager
helps you through everything. It's not uncommon that business manager
has access to your accounts and then every few months
you sit down with that business account a business manager,
and you go over your accounts you're supposed to. I
know a lot of guys that aren't great at that.
It gets really confusing and complicated when you start talking
(23:29):
about financials on all these things, and you sort of
got to trust the people that you hire. So what
do you do if the person you trust the most,
because you're just not good with handling all that, is
the one that's out here doing all this behind your back.
You feel stupid, You feel used, You feel like the
person that you relied on the most is let you down.
(23:51):
And through all of it, now everybody that watches your sport,
covers your sport, thinks about your sport, has decided that
you're actually a bad guy doing the one thing that
you can do. You're betting on your sport. We spent
weeks saying the name Pete Rose and show Hey Otani
in the same sentence, with absolutely no evidence. We spent
(24:15):
weeks associating one of the worst things you can do
in sports, specifically in sports particularly. We all know there
are plenty of people in sports that have done terrible
things in life, but when it comes to just on
the field, betting on sports when you're an athlete gives
everybody the hebe chiepis, and we immediately presume the worst,
(24:38):
the sort of offense that would keep show Hay off
of a baseball field, keep show Hay out of our content,
of our concepts of baseball. We presumed the absolute worst
at every step. Why because we applied our own personal
logic to a situation we knew nothing about. Yet we've
(25:01):
learned nothing from it because we'll do it again next time.
And I'm not lecturing. I'm not talking down to anybody.
I've been part of the problem, certainly, we all have.
I guess the question is when do we just default
to being human beings in these situations? When do we
(25:21):
default to letting things play out? When as a culture
do we actually decide that we believe in innocent until
proven guilty. When do we decide that the information we
have today doesn't have to create a hot take, it
doesn't have to create a news story. It can simply
(25:42):
create analysis based solely on what we know right now.
I say it all the time. One of the most
interesting things about what we do in sports talk is
we are asked genuinely to write a book report after
every chapter of a book. The thing of it is,
I can't come on radio or do any of my
work with Yahoo Sports and decide that I'm not going
to say anything about football season or college football until
(26:05):
it's over. That would make me bad at my job.
So as a result, I have to take the information
we have week one results figure out what we're gonna
talk about for the next thirty forty hours of content
we're making that week. What are our takeaways right after
two weeks might look a little different. What are our
takeaways after five weeks? What are our takeaways? This is
a process, so we're forced to write a book report
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every single week when it comes to what we're seeing
on the field, which means we might after two chapters
say Wow, this is best book I've ever read, and
by the time you get to the end of it,
you're like, man, this thing sucked. How many times have
you watched a movie and if they stop the movie
fifteen minutes and you'd be like, Oh, this thing's great,
And by the time you get to the end of it,
you're like, it's trash. I hated the ending. Right. We
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don't have that luxury in sports when it comes to
the product we see on the field. Our jobs in
sports media is to talk about things every single day
that they're happening. Our joy as fans is about talking
about things every single day that they're happening. The question is,
when are we as a society going to establish some
(27:08):
level of guidelines on how we approach the things that
aren't just about what's happening on the field. When are
we as a society going to decide that we're not
going to approach everything like we know everything because we
don't have to. All we had to do when everything
broke with show, he was say this is worth keeping
an eye on, and as we get more information, we
(27:30):
will let you know what we find out. That's what
we should have done, that's what we didn't do. And now,
because so many people made up their mind, and because
as a society we don't like to say, whoop's my bad.
As a society, we've already decided innocence or guilt, and
there's not a fact that we'll let get in the
way of that. It's unfortunate because the one thing I
(27:52):
know is I'll always stand up and say, man, I
was wrong about that. I do it about my takes.
I do it when I analyze people the wrong way,
I do it in my personal life, and I do
it in front of a microphone. Maybe we could do
it a little less if we took this Dodgers example
as one more reason that the best thing we can
do is hold off on the sweeping generalized statements until
(28:12):
we get all the information. So, Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio, I'm Jason fitz filling in. All right,
we're gonna get to some of this draft talk because
you've heard a ton of it, and I'm telling you
there is one rumor happening around the NFL Draft right
now that is absolutely mind blowing that you should not
take any weight to. We'll tell you about it next
on The Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So, Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, the Tirack dot
Com Studios, Coming at your lab. I'm Jason fitz in
for Doug. We'll get to Tom Brady in a little bit.
I don't want to cram that conversation in here and
not give it to justice. I'm just saying, everybody, get
ready to roll your eyes a bunch. In the meantime,
I'm still rolling my eyes. Monsey brought it up a
minute ago. I want to bring everybody in on this, Shay.
(29:01):
I always say, we've got a crossover statue at this
point of Allen iverson the first part of this to
me is like you got to ask ourselves what's the
point of a statue? Right like? Because to me, the
point of a statue is I want to make sure
that every generation of fan that ever walks into this
arena or around this stadium, or around this team is
going to know who this person was and why it's significant.
(29:23):
Right Like, there's a there's a moment in the stadium
for my beloved Raiders in an Allegiance stadium. They've got the
eternal flame at the end of it that signifies al Davis. Well,
it's huge, it's massive anybody that comes to the stadium
for the first time. At the bottom of it, there's
a whole statement about it. If you know we're going
to reach a generation someday where fans don't remember who
Ale Davis was, it's a great way, Like I understand
(29:44):
why they do that. It makes a statement and it
lets future generations of fans understand the impact prior players
or people in power had. I don't understand what you're
doing with the like Heisman sized crossover trophy right like
MANSI tell me I'm wrong here, But this the more
I look at it, the smaller kids. You know. It's
actually quite funny.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
In fact, Carrie Rhodes, who is a former NFL safety
and fills in from time to time as a as
a co host here at FSR, he tweeted, AI statue
is smaller than the charm he wears on his necklace.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And it's so true. I mean no, but yes, it's
so small.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Why it does look like a Hei slight the size
of a hisband trophy.
Speaker 6 (30:25):
I mean, listen, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
It's still an honor, but why, I mean, the.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Thing is like a bad statue. What's worse no statue
or a bad statue?
Speaker 8 (30:39):
I don't know, Like, I mean, hold on, I was
just gonna say what we've seen bad statues where they
mess up the face and you know, or like like
what was there.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Was a one?
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Yes, Ronaldo was the one. There's been several others. But
I think I don't know if this was a cost
issue or they don't do it. They were just going
with a different mindset of like not all statues have
to either be life size or larger than life.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
I don't have a problem with it so much.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
Yes, maybe it won't be noticed as much, but Ai
is one of the greatest players in seventy six ers history.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
But he never won an NBA title with them.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
He's memorable and no, listen, I'm coming from the Caitlin
Clark camp, and so I don't think that that's always like,
you know, you're never one of the greatest of all time.
He is one of the greatest sixers of all time.
I just think they went with a different mindset, a
little different idea of where he's just gonna make a
little smaller. It's gonna be a little bit more personal.
You can go up to it and look at it
a little closer.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
That's just it.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
They ran out of money. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
They sent the drawings to like a team you or
sine or like wish and they're like, I need a statue,
and they're like, no worries, We're gonna have this one
mini me for six weeks. It's like six weeks later,
like I did this once where like because you know,
I like huge Halloween displays and like Christmas displays. And
one year I was like, okay, like I saw this
add on some random website. You never go from the
(31:51):
random website, and it was for like this what looked
like a massive Grinch that was like moved and like
made all these noises and it was wild cheap, and
I was like, I don't know why this is cheap
and I'm buying it. Turns out, you know, then there
was much credit card fraud on that. I actually got
this tiny like it didn't look like the Grinch. It
looked like somebody had melted the Grinch, and like it
was a weird deformed thing that was like I don't know,
(32:13):
maybe four inches tall, like the picture made it look
like it was six feet. Like this is what I
think happened. I think they ordered a regular size, normal statue.
They got it, and they're like, well, nobody tell AI,
and we'll just hope this thing works out. That's that's
the only way I think this works.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
I'm comparing it to the Rocky statue. Have you seen that.
It's it's like yeah, I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and it's fictional.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Yeah, but I mean, how much do you think that
statue weighs like his statue? Not rocky statue? I know
what you can think about this? When when but in
your bucket?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yause?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
When when when I was played, he weighed one sixty
you know what I mean? So I think it has
something to do with the weight. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I don't know what's more ridiculous masters being over rated?
Are you thinking that this statue weighs one hundred and
sixty pounds?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Because that's what AI.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
No, man, I'm trying to He's like, I'm trying to
make sense to it.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I love the concept of the pitch meeting, and I'm
just saying, if I'm sitting if Shay, if you're the artist,
and I'm sitting at the table at the pitch meeting,
and you walk in and you've got this tiny, tiny, tiny,
tiny little statue, and I'm like, I don't get it.
It's so small. And then you look at me and
this in the sales pitchway you wink and you're like,
but the statue weighs exactly as much as a I
(33:30):
did when he played. If that's the thing that makes
me say yes to tiny statue. I'm out like I
should fire.
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Too when you put it that way. Yeah, I'm just
honestly trying to make sense of it, because.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Have you seen the video of him looking at his statue.
Speaker 9 (33:44):
He has to look down, he's yeah, he's he's I'm
double the size of his statue.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Right, Yeah, He's literally looking down at his own statue.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
He has to crouch a little.
Speaker 8 (33:52):
Bit six listen though, you could tell Ai it meant
a lot to him. He was emotional after he watched it,
So that's I think that's the most important thing is
that he looks at that and he just feels the
reverence coming from the organization, and he was all choked up.
And to me, that's what's the most important, is that
he was just like, Wow, I feel honored to be
here today.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So let's right and let's just be honest. Though. That
shows you that Ai is a former athlete that has
done really well in life. Because I have this opinion
that the more successful athletes, actors, musicians get because everybody
that's around them in some capacities typically getting paid, nobody
around them will actually say anything. So everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, no,
(34:32):
I love it, love it, you know full well, Iowa Sam.
If all of us walked up and Fox Sports Radio
was putting a statue of me outside, right, and it's like,
finally I have made it. I've got a statue of five.
It would take you thirty seconds after that, fifteen seconds
after the unveiling before you just started busting my chops
like never before at a tiny statue, like if you
(34:54):
are the normal spot in life most of us are
at and you're like, guys, come look, they've got this statue.
And then it gets unveiled and you realize that you
really have to get like your phone out and zoom
in on the picture to see the details on the eyes,
because it's too small to get a picture.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
It's a glorified g I Joe.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I mean, you'd be mocking. There would be tons of mockery.
I'd be mocked openly.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
As long as they get the face and the body
right and don't pull a rinaldo where it looks like
a weird uh, like a weird clay. Someone did some
some sculpting and it came out with like they smudged
the face or something.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I think that's what's important. But yeah, it is. It
is kind of comically small. It's an oversized g I
Joe essentially.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
So you're telling me also because he didn't win a
championship that when eventually they put a Caitlin Clark's.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Statue, No, no, I really did, tey kit. I think
a tiny Caitlin right under uh, right under Dan Gable
or who's right outside carved rock area.
Speaker 7 (35:44):
I think that'd be kind of cool. Tiny Caitlyn r
with me.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You there is not a chance in hell that you
would look if Caitlyn Clark was standing in the room
next to you. You look at it and be like,
you know what you need tiny statu.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
I think it's just a mindset, you know, you know,
it's it's uh you can have. They don't always have
to be the same six feet which is Kaitlyn Clark.
That doesn't have to be twelve feet. I'm just I'm
just saying it's a different approach here.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I would implore everybody go look at the social media
pictures of the statue. Like I said earlier, it looks
like somebody went to Funko Pop and said, can you
make me a funko of a statue? Of an NBA player,
and that's what we got. Super collectible looks super collectible,
just doesn't necessarily have the awe, especially in a city
that decided. And Anthony Gargana will crush me for saying this,
(36:28):
but my co host An The Fellas on Saturday Morning, like,
I mean, you gave a fictional movie character a life size,
massive statue, and that's what you gave an actual human being.
All Right, we'll get back to sports. We're gonna give
you the latest and greatest news from the from the
Dodgers and everything was show. Hey, you'll be surprised by
the latest development. We'll tell you about it next
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