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April 15, 2024 48 mins

On this edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug lays out what the NBA Post-season looks like as the NBA regular season has come to an end, and he asks an important question about the Lakers and whether or not they should lose their first play-in game on purpose.  

Doug and the crew share what they loved most about the sports weekend and what they hated most.  

Doug and Dan Beyer give their biggest takeaways from The Masters. Doug welcomes FSR NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the NBA's final weekend of their regular season and how the play-in games stack up. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:24):
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(00:45):
feel bad. I'm not wanting to diminish the masters. And
we'll talk about this a little bit more later. But
isn't there a way in which tonight's the WNBA draft
And rightfully we're going to make a huge thing over
Caitlin Clark comingto the w NBA. But uh, don't we
very much run the risk of you know, like Tiger

(01:08):
finished dead last yesterday of the of the guys that
made the cut, and you know, it's hard to see
a path to him winning a major, especially with this
at as at elite afield as you'll see at the Masters,
no matter how well he knows and has played that course.

(01:28):
But what's left is scottis Shuffler is an amazing golfer,
like an amazing, unflappable golfer, And yet most mainstream were like,
eh not, Tiger don't care. And it reflects as much
in the ratings, and I think that's what's going to
happen in the in college women's college basketball. Did did

(01:52):
golf grow because of Tiger, Yes, but it didn't grow
to a system. It was unsustainable the popularity there for
a while, and it does not feel like there's any
sort of next wave of that anytime in the future.
Let's get to the NBA, though, because it was a
wild weekend. Friday Night gave us some results that made

(02:18):
Sunday seem like can't miss TV, and the Pelicans went
from the sixth seed to the seventh seed, now playing
the playing game. And oh yeah, by the way, the
team to play in the playing game was the team
that just smoked him yesterday in the Lakers. The Lakers
have this interesting kind of conundrum, right if they win,
Say so, here's how it works for the playing game.

(02:39):
If you're the seven or the eighth seed, if you
win that first game, you don't have to play a
second game. You win, you're in. Whereas the Kings and Warriors,
they have to win two in order to get in two.
So the Lakers lose and they still get another opportunity,

(03:02):
and that if they win the congratulations, you get the
Denver Nuggets. And because the Oaklahoma City Thunder, how they
you know, because of how it all went down, they
end up getting the one seed, So the Nuggets get
the two seed, so the seventh seed, the seventh seed
gets the Nuggets. But if they lose and then they win,

(03:25):
they get the one seed, which is the Thunder. And
everyone knows they match up better with the Thunder. Plus
the Thunder young haven't done the playoffs, and the Lakers
are team built, and we're on their size. The size
and physicality will likely affect the Thunder more in the
playoffs than it does the Nuggets, who are a bigger
team anyway. They start six ten six ten seven foot
across the front line. So what do you do, right,

(03:50):
if you're this, and this does come down to what
type of person you are. If your risk averse, you're like,
does go out beat the Pelicans again, get to the playoffs.
We'll worry about the Nuggets when we're in it. But
if you don't, it's crazy. You have a very likely
better chance of advancing out of the first round and
who knows how far else because you don't know right now.

(04:11):
We believe the Nuggets will be at full strength for
Game one and have Jamal Murray back, but as games
get played, then there's the opportunity for them to get injuries,
You to get injuries. Anything can happen. So it is
different to play the Nuggets in the in the conference
finals than it is to play the Nuggets in the
first because you might not play the Nuggets in the

(04:33):
conference finals, but you might not get to the playoffs
if you lose the first game. That's a hard one.
That does come down to are you are risking. If
you're a risk averse person, you just go for it,
go all in and win Tuesday night. If you're not,
you roll the dice and look, there is some of this,
Some of this is not really up to your discretion,

(04:54):
right some of it is to the Pelicans decide, hey,
we don't want to win or we want to go
get this thing. I think normally I would do everything
in my power to avoid the Nuggets in this scenario
because you have an older team, you want to play
less games. I win that first game, make sure that

(05:15):
I'm in. Make sure I'm in, Jay Stu, what would
you do? You're in this situation of the LA Lakers.
If they lose, they can play and play for a
chance to play the one seed as the eighth seed
and take on the oaklham Sea Thunder. If they win,
they just get the Denver Nuggets who dominated them last year.
And common conception is the dominique begin this year?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm going to pull you, Doug, and I'm gonna I'm
going to say a Coiner phrase And I don't know
where it came from, and I frankly don't even know
what it means, but I'm going to just say it.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Maybe it applies.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I never devil into the I never whisper into the
devil's ear. You know what that means?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I think I do. I think it means, Okay, I
think it means why would I take the risk of losing,
of not making the playoffs because I want to avoid
somebody who's in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, saying something out loud or overtly trying to do
something to try to gain a result, I think is
just a dangerous way to do it in sports and
in life.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Okay, what about you? What about you there? Sam? What
would you do?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And Dan Byer you too?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Sam.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
You're gonna go ahead and you want me to take
this all right, it's gonna allow me to pass the
hot potato. I just play it out as it is
to If that's Jason's point. Listen, there's a lot of
things that have to go right for the Lakers to
be able to make a run. And if you start

(06:48):
trying to set it up in a way where like, okay,
we win here, we'd lose here. It's just it's not
going to work out. Take your medicine, try to win
the game. If you got Denver, you got Denver. But
I would I would not try to try to game
any system for what you feel would be a quote
unquote better matchup.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Sam, Where are you on it?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:14):
What Dan said?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So, every everybody's in the going for a thing. Right,
go for it, Go win the game. I think the
problem is you fear the Warriors and the Kings as
much as you fear the Pelicans, because if you want
to get out of the playoff, you want to get
out the first round of playoffs. The Nuggets are not
the path. So it is a little bit of damned

(07:36):
if you do, damned if you don't. But I definitely
try and win that game knowing that the second game
would not be just if the SEC game was it
was a cinch. If it was the Hawks without Trey Young,
then yeah, absolutely. But those those other those two teams
are good and they present a very different matchup. They're

(07:57):
better than the Warriors, but the Warriors are still the Warriors.
And you know what would the league do? Like, imagine
if you have Lebron and Steph facing off, the loser
goes home like the league. If the league you go like,
is the way we can create more playoff spots. I
think it's smart to whisper in the devil's ear. I

(08:20):
just think in the context of this particular one, because
the Lakers are older, they need less games. You know,
I don't think they have a particular I do think
they have a shot against Oklahoma City, But man, is
that risky and they may end up there's a chance
that Pelicans win that game anyway, and then if they win,
you can just play it off and go like now,
we weren't trying.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
We were waiting for the next game.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
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Speaker 6 (08:45):
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Speaker 5 (08:52):
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Speaker 1 (08:54):
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you all had a great weekend. I mean I had

(09:22):
an interesting weekend.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
My daughters turned eighteen years old, which is just it's
so crazy. So I was talking to one of my
daughters yesterday and I was like, you know, eighteen, it's
pretty cool birthday. She's like, yeah, I can. She went
through all the things she can do. You know. She
can buy SIGs, not that she smokes SIGs. She can vote,

(09:45):
she can drink in Mexico but not here anyway. And
then and then the interesting one is, you know one
of my daughters drives, one of them does not, and
she's like, hey, now I got to do take the
driving test. I don't have to take the written portion
of it. Like really, yeah, aids out of that sucker.

(10:09):
So they are a happy birthday, both my daughters, Harper
and Grace, and yesterday was her birthday. Pretty awesome. Although
then you go back through and you know, her friends
encourage me to post funny videos over Harper because she
has a lot of them because she's hysterical. But then
you start going through the videos and you're like, man,

(10:29):
I literally remember that, like it was yesterday. She was
seven and she was doing this. The days are long,
but the years are quick.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Days long.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Beer. Let's have some nostalgia for the weekend, shall we
What we loved? What we hated? You can chime into
at Gotlieb Show on Instagram at gatlib show on Twitter.
Let's play the game.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
What did you love?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
God? I love you?

Speaker 6 (10:54):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 7 (10:56):
These play hays?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Okay there, Let's start with Dan Beyer. You're a loving mood?
Would you love on the Weekend.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Prize, Doug.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
No surprise, Doug that the Masters would highlight my love
of this weekend. I was locked in and not only Thursday,
but Friday as well Saturday and Sunday. And I know
it didn't live up to everyone's expectations, but I love
how the pond on eleven came into play on Sunday,

(11:42):
with Colin Morikawa and Ludwig Obert ending up in that
pond because for a while, a lot of players want
to play away from it. I liked at one point
we had six players tied from the lead in the
final round. I know it didn't end how many would
have hoped, with a lot of drama, but I just
Master's Weekend. In fact, I didn't even work yesterday. It's

(12:04):
a it's a tradition unlike any other where. I'm usually
off Master's Weekend because I want to soak it all in.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's what I love this weekend.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
All right, Jason's true would you love at the beginning?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
This is what I enjoyed. I didn't see it when
it aired, but I watched the Saturday Night Live of
Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark was on Saturday Night Live. I'm
sure everybody saw it, and she was on the uh
what is that portion of the new the News Update,
Weekend End Update, And I guess Michael Chase had some

(12:37):
real negative things to say about women's basketball, a lot
of them I share. I think he's very funny about it.
And then Kaitlyn Cark kind of called him out on
the mat and uh. And it was a good bit,
you know, and it was very scripted, but it was
a good bit. But what I loved about it. If
you've got that sound of what she said on the show, Sam,

(12:58):
that would be great.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
So hold on, I think.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
You're a great basketball player.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I mean I can't play like you do.

Speaker 9 (13:04):
Yeah, we know. And obviously I can't tell jokes like
you do.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 9 (13:09):
But I did write some jokes and it would mean
a lot to me if you read some of them
just right over there on the carts.

Speaker 8 (13:14):
Well, the Indiana Fever have the first pick in this
Monday's draft. A reminder that Indiana Fever is a w
NBA team and not what Michael cha gave to dozens
of women at for junior university.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
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Speaker 6 (13:56):
Special Shade is up.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
I hope you have a great first season.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Thanks.

Speaker 9 (14:01):
I'm sure will be a big first step for me,
but it's just one step for the WNBA. Thanks to
all the great players like Cheryl Swoops, Lisa Leslie, Cynthia Cooper,
the great Don Staley, and my basketball hero Maya Moore.
These are the women that kicked down the door so
I could walk inside.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
So if you noticed, Caitlin Clark took time out of
her comedy bit to thank the players of the past
that helped pave the way for her. A couple of
those names that she mentioned have taken direct shots at
her over the last few weeks. So Caitlin Clark for
taking the high road for having the cachet to be

(14:39):
on SNL. I think the first women's or WNBA player
to be on SNL. I loved it. I love the
whole thing. So Caitlin Clark, congratuation.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's amazing that she was on there and it wasn't
It didn't seem like a bad fit, right, it didn't
seem forced some of the other women's basketball step previously
seem forced.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
It didn't.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Frankly, I'm sure SML benefited greatly from it. All Right,
till about you, Sammy.

Speaker 10 (15:07):
Well, it's gonna be more the same Kaitlyn Clark. But
I loved the weekend that Kaitlyn Clark had. All Right,
fly out to La Friday night, pick up your Wooden Award.
You got Jason sudeikis there in your corner, give give
them a little speech to the audience. Had all kinds
of stars there, coaches, and we maxed out on him
yet because I kind.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Of aw yep, tell me why he's not really a coach,
and yet he continues to play the role of like
the world's most beloved coach.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
Listen, I get it. But it's also he's he's a
big star. He's in your corner.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
I like it.

Speaker 10 (15:39):
I think it's great that he sort of he's gone
to games there at Carver Hawckey Arena. But anyway, that's
just only a little part of her stellar weekend. So
had today is there you're taking pictures of Zach Edy
who won the Men's Wooden Award. All right, then fly
out to New York City, go on Saturday Night Live.
That's something that you know, like last time some from

(16:00):
Iowa did that, maybe Ashton Kutcher.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
That's a pretty big deal. That was awesome.

Speaker 10 (16:04):
And then of course tonight you have the WNBA Draft
and you're a front and center for that. So I
loved Caitlin Clark's weekend. That's what I loved.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Okay, I love the fact that Jackson Holliday got his
first hit yesterday. His whole family was there, and I
was actually texting Matt, who came on with us and
The Dan Patrick Show on Friday, and he's like, yeah,
he's got to get one today because we're going home
after today, right, he's off on his own. And sure enough,
he did get one. But I mean, I think you
can all. I think it was first thirteen of bats,

(16:33):
he had eleven strikeouts, like just trying too hard, swinging
and everything, and he got one, and it feels it
feels like the rest, I don't know, be easy, but
he get back to being who he is. He's like
our player that we've adopted as a show. And I
did feel the struggles and all the strikeouts and now
he's off the Schneide and oh yeah, by the way,
it helped the Orioles come from behind and get a

(16:55):
win on a Sunday. That's what I loved.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
And though it's one of those things too that once
you get that first one, then that's the floodgates. I
just have a feeling he's gonna have a bunch of
extra base hits this week. He's just gonna get back
to just raking the ball like he always has like that,
and that entire first thirteen at bats, Like you said,
I think nerves and also I think pictures take it

(17:18):
a little bit more personally, like, oh, you're the number
one prospect in baseball. Okay, well how about this slider
piece on the on the on the black. But no,
I think I loved I loved watching him get that
first hit, and I think he's gonna have a big
next couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
All right, we'll see, He'll be in Anaheim next week.
Let's get to what we hated from the weekend. We
got to start with a resident hater. That's Jason Stewart.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know what my uh my hate actually is, like
the I guess afterthought of my love. If you guys
remember right, I'm asking that the listeners are stretcher. But
three minutes ago, my love was Caitlin Clark and the
appearance on SNL, And I for you what was really
cool about it. She took the high road and she

(18:04):
you know, basically paid an ode to the players before her.
What I did appreciate was the reaction of the Kitlin
Clark SNL appearance on Twitter. On Twitter, So I don't
know what you call this kind of twitter SNL Twitter,
WNBA Twitter, But just to give you one example, here's

(18:27):
one big vanilla funny rights. Yeah, let's celebrate the losers
of the National Championship Game and back to back years
by double digits. Was Angel Reeson last year and Camella
Cardosa this year. Oh wait, that's right. They wanted to
invite the loser to the White House as well, right,
But I'm sure it's not the media. I think the

(18:50):
implication here is that Caitlin Clark's stardom is a media
creation and it's not a something that she earned, or
there's no merit to it, or she wasn't like one
of the most unique players we've ever seen in the
college of basketball. There's there's a lot of hater, Ray,
there's a lot of like resentment that I just don't get.

(19:12):
I don't forget where that's coming from. I never have
understood the resentment of Caitlin Clark taking the game to
the next level. It's almost like a lot of you
people would rather the game not get bigger than to
have it get bigger with Caitlin Clark. It's very strange
to me, and I can't stand that.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Okay, I agree with you. I mean that the HiT's hysterical,
but the problem is that people don't even know what's
good for them, right, They don't know what's good for him, Like, look,
this helps everybody. Rising tide lifts all ships, and they
can't get out of their own way in their competitive nature.
Although also it's also a league that has played the

(19:53):
victim for a long time too, so it's you know,
no one can take a compliment. They just can't. Dan
Byers be a hater from the weekend.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
This may be a shock to some, but a run
mid February, when my team's not in the Super Bowl,
I kind of get a little exhausted of football, you know,
like when we we're a super Bowl week, you know,
at that point it's.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Like, let's get the game. Let's get the game here.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
And I'm kind of ready to have football not in
my life for you know, like it dominates from August
all the way to February. And one of the things
that I have to look forward to is this four
week stretch of college basketball and Championship Week into the
NCAA Tournament. And then the NCAA Tournament ends on a Monday,

(20:41):
and what do you know, that's the first day of
Masters Week. And now that's over, and it's a sad time.
Not that there aren't things that I won't look forward to,
like the PGA Championship next month or football. Yes, and
it's but it's also it's also a break from football
because football is so so dominates our lives in the fall,

(21:05):
and so now that time, and so now I'm looking
ahead the summer. But the worst day of the sporting
calendar for me is the day after the Masters, because
then I got to wait another whole year for it
to come along. So I'm I know, they say, smile
that it happened, don't cry that it ended, but still
still difficult on this sort of day.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Okay, what about you there, Sammy?

Speaker 10 (21:29):
I am going to co sign Jason Stewart's hate topic
for the week. I'm co signing on that. I'm not
co signing on what Jill Biden did last year saying, hey,
the loser, come on out too. I don't I don't
endorse that, but I will endorse the words to Jason
Stewart here. And here's kind of a something that was
I hated, but it was also amusing. Yesterday, I think

(21:52):
it was yesterday, Manny Machado hit a home run. Former
Dodger hit a home run into the crowd at Dodger Stadium,
and one a guy who caught the ball, he threw
it back or did he He actually had a decoy
ball in his pocket and threw it back on the
field so he could keep the Machado home run ball,
which is you know, he's going to get a lot
of flak for that, but it is.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
It's funny.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
It's it's it's something I'm like, oh man, that's lame,
but it's also kind of amusing.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
So wait, did you hate it or did you like it?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
All right?

Speaker 5 (22:21):
I kind of liked it.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Did the Dodgers then try to shake him down for
the real ball so that he went out to the
padres and hell, here's a box.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Of chocolates and that's it. That's all you get, some
buzz the peanuts.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
The funny thing about that whole thing is the guy
says that he has caught more than twenty balls in
his life. And as a person who's spent fifty one
years on this planet and has gone to hundreds of
Major League Baseball games, I've never once caught a ball
at a baseball game.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I haven't either, I haven't attend as many baseball games yet.
Now I will tell you that a good portion of
it is strategic planning. And I believe I could be wrong, Jason,
but you have reached the sneak seat snobbery moment of
your life. And here's the thing. The better the seats,
the least likely you already get a ball.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
I wouldn't say that, I will.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
I would net above you. There's a net in front
of you. When was the last time you sat in
the bleachers?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
No? No, I haven't in quite some time.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, so there you go.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Remember Kendrick Klamar sat in the bleachers a couple of
years ago. If Kendrick Calmark and I can I mean you're.

Speaker 10 (23:31):
Going to fry in the sun, but you have a
better chance of catching a meaningful ball.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Well, the sun's not that hot out here in southern
California just yet. Well you're supposed to have a couple
of nice days.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
In the middle of the week in July and.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
That sure, but you sa also afternoon night games. Okay,
I'll get to what I what I hate it was
I there were so many games which I were told
were important on Sunday, and yet some teams didn't even
try on Sunday in the I'm talking about the NBA, right,
The NBA was it was this, oh my god, biggest

(24:03):
Sunday and there's so many moving parts. I literally needed
somebody to explain to me before and during every game
what was taking place. And I couldn't get that. There's
just too many things working in real time, and so
I had to shut it off. I went back to
the Masters, I went outside. I did some stuff with
my kids, because you know, I told you my daughter's birthday.

(24:24):
Then I was like, you know, I just tell me
what happened when it's over, So who plays who? Because
I had no concept of what was going on. And
then you know, like you we're told these games matter.
And then Oklahoma City was they had what did they
have at halftime? They had like eighty two at the half.
It was like eighty two to forty at a half

(24:46):
or something like that against Dallas. I'm like, wait, are
we taking these games seriously or not? And apparently the
answer for Oklahoma City was yes. For Dallas was now.
So Sunday was really confusing for me, and then now
that the does settles, it's a little bit less confusing.
And that's love and hay.

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Speaker 1 (25:18):
One up Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, Rick Bucker
in a couple minutes. So The Masters was this weekend. Okay, buyer,
please don't be alarmed at our answers. And I bring
it up because Dan is he's more than an avid

(25:39):
golf fan like he is. He loves this stuff and
follows it. Plus he has this Sunday show too, so
I know he's watching on Sunday. Jay s dou how
much did you watch.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Of the Masters?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Exactly zero? I followed The Masters on Twitter, So it
was like after it happened, I think the handshake by
Tiger and Vern one Quist was made into an amusing
meme because you couldn't see Vern behind the tree, so
Tiger was shaking the hands of the tree. Yes, and

(26:13):
the most comical meme of the weekend was some kind
of a reference to the tree that he hit with
his car, which is yes, dark humor, but.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
I love dark.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
It was well, nobody was killed. Tiger was hurt pretty badly,
but nobody's killed, right, So I like that. That's it's acceptable.
Dark humor, acceptable dark humor. Okay, Iowa, Sam, how many
minutes of the of the Masters did you watch?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Probably about ten to fifteen minutes via highlights.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
So you didn't watch any of the Masters not live? No, Okay,
you see what he tried to do there, Guys, you
saw that, right.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
I mean I saw footage of it. So it's not
like I you.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Know that that again, just so you know, Sam, that
is like if you have a layover in Salt Lake City,
you can't say I went to Utah.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Yeah no, no, right, no I didn't. I didn't watch
it like I go to Dallas over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Really, what you do.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
I had a layover in Dallas and I was on
my way.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
To you know, that's fair, that's fair, That's the same thing,
totally far.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Buyer most memorable part of the Masters, the twenty twenty
four Masters as.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
What Scotti Scheffler's shot on nine, second shot on nine.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That really kind of made it. Then it was like, oh,
Scotti Scheffler's winning this thing. I was watching it on
my phone and all of a sudden, all my friends
who are avid golfers were texting me like, all right, boys,
what are we doing the rest of the afternoon? Because
it felt like that was right around nine, ten eleven.

(27:50):
That's when it became all right, this thing's over in
in comparison to the other Masters years and other Masters's moments,
will Scotty Scheffler stand up the test of time?

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Dan Byer, I don't think that his story is finished.
I don't think that he will be done after two
Masters victories. I think he could win another. I think
he could possibly win two. I don't think this one
will stand the test of time.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, ye did. Look the juxtaposition of Scotty Scheffler, who
is dominating, and Tiger Woods, who is struggling, and yet
the attention and the energy we spend to Tiger. Some
of it obviously this is his greatness, but a lot
of it is, you know that that we're just trying to,
you know, just trying to figure out who we can

(28:42):
who we can next turn our attention to, and do
we even take the Tiger Woods thing seriously anymore?

Speaker 4 (28:49):
But it is go ahead, I know, I because I've
got I got a lot to say about what happened
with Scheffler and what happens with the Masters. But I
also think there's a whole separate Tiger conversation, So we
could go down the Tiger conversation, if you will. What
I thought happened with Tiger was what Tiger had at
stake this past week was breaking Fred Couples and Gary

(29:13):
Players consecutive cuts made streak at Augusta National. At the Masters,
they all were tied with twenty three straight cuts. Tiger,
as we know, like a lot of the field were
affected by the weather on Thursday, but Tiger had to
come back and play five early holes on Friday morning
when we were in for Dan Patrick. Tiger was on

(29:34):
the course at that time, then had about an hour
turnaround and had to go and play eighteen holes, which
he made the cut comfortably, very comfortably. But what I
think happened Doug was the main goal for Tiger this
week who again, he's teed it up once in twenty
twenty four, that was at the Genesis where he had

(29:56):
to withdraw because he was ill. I think Tiger put
everything he had into making the cut and making sure
that he was there for the weekend, and having the
additional five holes I don't think was ideal with him,
but I don't think that's like the ultimate game breaker,
game changer. I think his ultimate goal was to make

(30:18):
the weekend, to have the record by himself, because we're
not going to remember, you know, him shooting in the eighties.
What we're going to remember is that now Tiger Woods
holds the Augusta record for most consecutive cuts made at
twenty four. And I think he put everything that he
had into it to make sure that he played the weekend,
and then because of his lack of reps and where

(30:39):
he is, he didn't have anything to show.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
For it when you played on Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, it's a great it's a great, great way looking
at it. I think again, I think as a super
in depth and interesting way of looking at that you
and I are interested in. I think Jason Stewart's of
the world, and Jason, if I'm if I'm speaking out
a turn, you let me know. It's like I used

(31:06):
to be in the Tiger. Now there's just a bunch
of guys, and then every time I hear that a
guy is going to be the next guy, he's not
the next guy, you know. Is that is so I'm
not really that super into golf. I was super into
Tiger Woods.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I'll tell you this much. I typically watch Sundays. I
typically watch a good portion of the leaders on Sunday,
and once Tiger had that Saturday, it took away my
interest in watching on Sunday. And I think I'm not
alone on that one. As far as the casual.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I think that, I think I think you're You're completely
not alone. I think that you nailed the issue. And
it's not to say that like Cheffler's been awesome and
and this is I mean baseball has the same thing
as well. Obviously basketball has it, but I mean, how
many players out there are incredible young players in the NBA,

(31:59):
But like we're still paying attention to Steph and uh
and to Lebron, you know, and they're still playing. But
if they're easily like, watch what happens with the NBA's
ratings when one of those two gets eliminated in the play,
and like it's going to be different.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
You know, I I know, like if we talk about
it as a whole, and I'll just say, I'll say
this about The Masters. We all have a favorite TV show,
right right, we all Doug Seinfeld, I think the Cheers.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Sure, Cheers actually mine cheers than Seinfeld. But you're you're, you're,
you're on it.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
What's you?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
What's yours?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
King of Queens it's probably my all time favorite. And
there are some episodes of King of Queens that I
absolutely love and there are some that I'm like, all right, okay,
I don't need to watch this one again. And I
would feel that it's the same thing with with Cheers.
Every episode is not going to be the magnificent, drop
dead funny one. Some are better than others, and I
think that I think that that is that is the

(32:57):
case with this Masters.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
It just is one of those that, all right.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Maybe it's not as good as it was in ninety
seven or in other great years, it will fall into
to the role of that. I do think that there
are bigger problems. But it's not just with Tiger Woods.
It has to do with live it has to do
with Scotty Scheffler's personality. It's got to do with a

(33:22):
lot of it. And it's funny on how like we've
gotten to this point because I think there's been live
is not a paper cut. But if you want to
take the splitting of live golf, even just away from this,
I think there have been other paper cuts along the
way that have ended up hurting the sport and not
allowing us to be as involved as maybe we once

(33:43):
would be if Tiger Woods wasn't. I mean Jordan speedth
and Justin Thomas. Justin Thomas was like seven over par
in his final four holes to miss the cut. Speith
was all over the place, he didn't make the cut.
They're not like cashing in on their ability to capitalize
on their stardom. The rival the Scotti Scheffler is in
live golf, the guy that gave him the green jacket yesterday.

(34:05):
Rory was mediocre over the weekend. There's a lot to
go with it as well. I would even say this
if you remember back when Phil won the PGA Championship
at Kiowa, and this was in twenty twenty one. This
was before the whole Live thing happened, and we touched
a little bit about this on Friday. But you know
what else was going on aside from Michelson winning the

(34:26):
Masters when he was fifty, brooks Kopka was a badass.
Brooks Kepka couldn't stand Bryce and de Shambo because bryceon
Deshamba was trying to be the hulk okay and trying
to do everything. All of those stories were actually interesting.
We were watching bay Hill because Deshamba was trying to
drive the par five sixth hole, cutting over ninety percent

(34:46):
of a lake like that was interesting. He's not into
that anymore. There's no rivalry between him and brooks Kopka,
and if there was, we wouldn't know about it because
it's at Live like there are all these things that
could have gained interest. John Ram may not move the
needle for everybody, but if he was a rival to
Scotti Scheffler and he had two of the world's best
going at it, I think that would be very, very compelling.

(35:09):
And instead you had Scotty Scheffler, who's hohum ludvig Oldberg,
who's playing in his first Masters, and as a you
know what, twenty one to twenty two year old Swede
Colin Morikawa doesn't oose flashiness. It's a lot of this
stuff that has added up and played in it. Because
I thought a lot about that, because I saw I
did this weekend is you know, watch all of this.

(35:30):
But I think a lot of that stuff is what
plays into it if live, and I think live is
huge because if Live doesn't come along, we're still like
familiar with these guys, and cam Smith and Bryson de Shamble,
we're on the leader board. We probably didn't care as
much because kind of forgotten about them, and Bryson isn't
the bad boy that he was three years ago, and
there isn't the rivalry with Brooks's. So a lot of

(35:53):
that stuff is kind of fallen by the wayside, and
golf's never going to be the same and it hasn't
had a lot of momentum, and I think people were
hoping that the Masters was going to save that and
try to bring that back, and I'm not sure if
it did this past weekend.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
I didn't think it brought it back. I agree with
you on rivalries. I honestly agree with you on it's
not just rivalries. It's like the the infighting within the family.
As much as it's a bad look, you know, maybe
throughout the year, it would be a good look at
the end of these tournaments if we had lived versus

(36:29):
PGA and they would embrace that. But the nice plane, Jane, guys,
it's really hard.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Sure.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Can I tell you the one problem with the rivalry
of the live versus the PGA tour is that the
live players because we don't care and I don't think
that there's enough like there. It's just it's different of
being on that tour. If they were all on the
PGA Tour and battling week in and week out, then
we've got something. But here they go away for three

(37:00):
or four weeks, then they show up again. Then they're
all together, and they go away for three or four weeks,
and they show up at the US Open. There's just
no way to get momentum, there's no way to carry
anything over.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
It's just it.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
It's really fractured the game. But there were other issues
with it. As well, and I just yeah, it's it's
it's really too bad. I mean, as a golf fan.
As much as it pains mean that have people comment
on the Masters who don't comment the other three hundred
and sixty four days of the year, I also don't
like to hear people being like, yeah, I didn't watch,
I didn't care, you know, like that actually stinks.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
That's not good. I think there's a lot of reasons
for it.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I would say the difference for me is I watched,
but I was I was. I wasn't to the level
of Jason Stewart where I was completely turned off when
Tiger didn't win. But it was not it was no
longer appointment sitting down on my casch viewing. It was
on my phone while doing some other things, well, having
a nice other day that I happen to watch it.

(38:00):
And I saw the turn of events in the middle
of you know, right at the turn, and I was like, yep,
gonna be Scotty Scheffler. And then I just started kind
of indulging a little bit on Scotty Scheffler info and
why he's been so good and where it turned his
career and all that, all that other stuff. It's the
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So pleased to
be joined Eric Buker Fox Sports dot Com and Fox

(38:23):
Sports One, and of course joining us now on Fox
Sports Radio. U buke It was a wild and kind
of confusing last weekend between the Friday games and the
Sunday games. Put it together for me. What happened this weekend, Well.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
We had a little bit of jockeying, I believe, certainly
the Cleveland Cavaliers looked like they did that. And then
we've just had some questions raised about exactly who is what,
starting with the Golden State Warriors and a home loss
to the New Orleans Pelicans that they cly very much

(39:03):
hope to win to avoid having to now win what
two road playoff games in order to h to make
the playoffs. So, uh, it's what. It's why I love
the play in to be honest with you, because I
think it's one it's done a great job of curbing tanking,

(39:23):
and two it's I mean, we've we've been looking at
the prospect of what the Warriors and the Lakers and
the Sixers and the Heat all already having been eliminated,
and so now we have this intrigue of young teams
that showed what they're capable of in the regular season,
but we're still waiting to see exactly, you know, can

(39:45):
they take the next step in the postseason. And we
have some veteran teams that are now in position to
still test that and see if they have one more
run in them. So, you know, the the short answer
is like, there were a few things that were settled
over the weekend, but there was there's more that's still

(40:06):
yet to be to be settled in the next couple
of days.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
You know what, It's so okay. Will the Lakers lose
in the first playing game to avoid the Nuggets?

Speaker 7 (40:22):
I I have a hard time believing that they would
do that for a couple of reasons. One, they're they're
the early game, so they don't know whom they would
be playing in the second game, and they got what.
They went zero to four against the Sacramento Kings during

(40:42):
the regular season and lost by an average of eleven points. Now,
I know the playoffs are different, but the fact of
the matter is they have not looked like they're capable
of competing with the Kings, getting up and down and
playing their style and I would still think that that
would give you thoughts about dropping a game against the
New Orleans Pelicans, and even against the World of Warriors,

(41:05):
they lost, if I'm correct, they lost three or four.
So I just think it's a dangerous, dangerous proposition. I
understand the idea that you're going to, uh, you haven't
had a whole lot of success against Denver and you
would be avoiding them. But it's not as if the
Lakers have been some unbelievable juggernaut and injury was just

(41:27):
the only thing that kept them from being, you know,
a fifty five win team or whatever. I just you're
gonna have to face if you if you think of
yourself as having a chance at winning a championship, you're
going to have to face Denver Nuggets at some point.
And it's not I mean, I just I do not

(41:48):
believe in this idea that let's find a road where
we can avoid them for as long as possible and
extend our playoffs, when you're in no way guarantee that
that's actually going to happen.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
All Right, Phoenix comes from the play in to swoop
in and grab that six spot. How do they match
up with Minnesota?

Speaker 7 (42:11):
Ah, what interesting, interesting matchup because obviously Minnesota has the
size that I don't know how Phoenix is going to
handle that. But in talking to execs and scout about
upset potential after the Milwaukee Buck, the feeling was that
the Minnesota Timberwolves where the next likeliest top team among

(42:37):
the top three in either conference that was susceptible to
to getting upset. So, I that's a tough one. I
wouldn't I'm I'm thinking of the Phoenix Sun are are
on a little bit of a roll here and are
going to that their their experience and their firepower is

(42:59):
going to win out. But they're going up against the
number one defense in the league for a reason. And
my question is does Minnesota like I'm not a believer
that Anthony Edwards is the anointed star that everybody is
making him out to be. I think he's got a great,

(43:19):
great talent, but he hasn't demonstrated to me that he's
ready to be the go to player on a team
that goes to the next level in the postseason.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, no, I hear you. Dallas and the Clippers. Wow, Yeah,
I mean, I don't know anybody's playing better than Dallas,
but there have been times when the Clippers look like
the best team league and one of them is going
to be home after the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (43:45):
Yeah, yeah, I'm I am. I got off the Clippers
train at the beginning of the season, and there's nothing
that has happened during the course of this year that
has convinced me to get back on it. Because they'll
question of Kawhi Leonard and his health. But I just

(44:06):
when things go a little sideways, who are you relying
on to study the ship? Certainly not Paul George. I
just I've been just appalled at how talented he is.
And yet you see and need situations they'll turn over
the ball not once but twice, forcing things that aren't there,

(44:28):
and that's been just a regular occurrence. No, there's been
no evolution there and so and I can't. I don't
know what I'm going to get from James Harden on
night tonight. I just I don't. It's the same reason
that I have questions about the Boston Celtics. For as
great as their regular season record is, it's like, who's

(44:49):
the leader, who's the guy, who's the who's the player,
who's the person who studies the ship who says this
is you know, let's go, this is what we have
to do in this particular situation in order to get
through it. I don't see that player. I mean, I
would say, you like, who's the leader of the Los

(45:11):
Angeles Clippers. Who's the leader of the Boston Celtics. I
don't really know who that is. I know who people
say it is, but I don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Yeah, No, it's It's an incredible question. Incredible question. Okay,
So who's who's actually uh? Who do you think gives
the Nuggets the toughest time?

Speaker 7 (45:35):
I actually think that the Phoenix Suns have the capability
of giving them the toughest time because of the matchup
with UH, with nurk and and and Yokic, he's the
one he's the one body, the one guy who has
a familiarity with him, and I think we've seen this
in a couple of matchups during the regular season that

(45:56):
can at least make him work a little bit. What
I've really liked about Jokic and and one of the
reasons why he's going to be at the top of
my MVP ballot ballot for the first time ever this
year is because I've seen him impose his will. I've
seen him bully people. I've seen one of one of
the you know, one of the classic plays they have

(46:18):
is is he just pounds his way to the middle
of the paint, draws that second defender and then he's
just thrown up a lot for for Aaron Gordon to finish.
I didn't always see him do that consistently in the past,
and I always thought it was there for him to
do it, and I thought that that would just wilt

(46:39):
opposing teams. Uh, not only that, but just take it
out of uh front lines of the opposition. Nurk is
the one guy who who is able to deal with
that at least a little bit. And then obviously you
have all that all that scoring on the perimeter. I
still think that they you know, they need to it'd

(47:01):
be better if they had a true point guard somewhere
on that roster. But just in terms of matchups, the
Phoenix Suns can present some wrinkles that force the Denver
Nuggets to make adjustments to their game in a way
that I'm not sure that anybody else does.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Great point that's actually a really good yeah. The question
with the Phoenix Suns is can they stop anybody? And
can they get there to even play play the Denver
Nuggets in the meantime? Man, it's the gaps.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
I mean, so much of this playoffs is going to
be who you see and when when you see them,
And it's why the whole question of the Lakers avoiding
Denver has come up. I understand why it's being posed.
I just I don't think the Lakers are so good,
so much better than everybody and anybody that they would
face in manipulating this situation.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Sure that it's worth.

Speaker 7 (47:59):
The role of the dice.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Sure that makes that makes complete sense? Beute, great stuff.
Can't wait to see what happens with the play in games.
We'll talk again next week. Thanks for being our guest
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
My pleasure talking
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