April 23, 2024 • 42 mins
On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug breaks down game two of the Lakers-Nuggets series as L.A. gave up a 20 point lead to lose, and Doug explains what happened.
Former NBA Champion and NBA Analyst Antonio Daniels joins Doug to cover all of the major headlines in the NBA playoffs right now.
Doug dissects the criticism that quarterback Caleb Williams has received coming into the draft, and explains why Williams acts and thinks the way he does.
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In two games decided by essentially two different shots, Dante DiVincenzo,
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Why Dante, as he's remembered from his star days at Villanova,
hitt a big three to bring the Knicks back. We'll
get to that one. And then Jamaal Murray with a
step back jump shot over extended hand of Anthony Davis
and the Nuggets complete a come back from down twenty
in the fourth quarter to win Game two and take
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a commanding two games to none lead. Welcome, in this
is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byers here, Jason Stewart
is year, I was same here. Even Elijah's here as
he's fixing the cameras in studio, part of our our
great digital team. So a lot to get to. I
think we focus on the Lakers Nuggets just because what
was at stake. And I had told you last year
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that I thought, I mean last week that I thought
the Lakers would be more competitive this year than they
were last year. With the Nuggets. They kind of figured
out how to guard him. They've gotten a little bit better.
And the Nuggets, I don't think their benches as good.
And the Nuggets are a dominant team at home, I
mean dominant, so to have them down twenty at their
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place had to put the fear of God in the
hearts of the Nuggets. But I want you to think
about this for a second, you know, really think about
it for a second. How would the world look today
if the Lakers had closed that game out? To think
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about that and what we do. And this is I
understand how sports work. I understand we all have add
We're always on to the next game and it's not
supposed to matter. But The reality is the Lakers are
very unlikely to make this a seven game series. It good, okay,
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And so let's say they lose in five or six
or maybe even four. You can sit there and go like, hey,
games three and games four they weren't that close, so
game two is the outlier. But yeah, when you have
a deem down twenty at their place and they don't
ever lose at home and they can't figure out how
to stop you when they can't and you then you
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can't close them out, it feels like a loss and
a half as opposed to a win. Feels like a
win and a half. Here's Lebron James talking about the
officiating after the game.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't understand what's going on in a replay center,
to be honest, I said it. I think I said
it this year or last year, whatever. Delo clearly gets
hit in a face on a drive. We have a
replay centers. This is going to go that doesn't It
doesn't make sense to me. It makes no sense to me.
It bothers me. I'm sorry to ask you a question,
but that is like, and then I just saw what
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happened with the Sixers nickname too. What are we what
are we doing?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And look, I get it, I'm against clearly blown calls,
and the D'Angel Russell one was a blown call. But
I also tell you that there is there's something about
this sport that you actually need real aau to prepare
you for. So this is kind of an interesting aside,
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at least to me. And if you guys don't follow
or don't find an interest, that's fine. But you sports
in our country have a tendency to get a bad rap,
and some of it is accurate basketball, especially because we
have so many foreign players coming in and starring in
quote unquote our game. So it must be how we're
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teaching it, and on some levels it is. We don't
have enough practices. We have way too many games, and
the games don't matter that much. If you lose, you
already have a schedule. Some of the circuits you play
in four games in a weekend, regardless of how way
you win or you lose, whatever, and you still get
to advance. And if you lose in bracket play, in
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bracket play, you often get a constellation bracket and then
another game guaranteed a number of games. That's not how
life works. But there is something to the flimsy officiating,
full court pressure, hand to hand combat, because it's a
weeding out process. Either you learn to win games that
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way or you don't get to play in the big
games in front of all of the college scouts, in
front of all the now NBA scouts. You have to
find a way to win those games. There's a tenacity
and aggressiveness. There's a hand to hand, hand in hand
combat to it. It's even Lebron James who can plain
he drove in and he missed a layup, thought he
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got fouled late in the game, Like, hey, dude, dunk
the ball. Don't get even when you don't make your
dunks or you get it blocked, oftentimes they call that
a foul, especially when you're Lebron James, when you're the
New York Knicks and you're taking you're Philadelphia seventy six ers.
You have to go and get the ball, and look,
there's an art to it. They're holding your jersey. You
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have to knock their hands off and push off without
getting called for a push off, and get open and
secure the ball and hold the ball as they're fouling
the crap out of you trying to steal the ball.
You have to do that. You learn that when you
play AAU basketball. You learn that in fifth and sixth
and seventh grade. If you can't do it, you will
not play the high level AAU. And what I think
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you end up getting is you get dudes that are
junkyard dogs, and at the end of these games they
just find a way to push a shove and make plays.
And look, if you go to the Sixers game, right,
the Sixers are at the free throw line up five,
a chance to make it six. And if you're a
baseball fan, you know this to be true. Right in baseball,
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all of those late inning rallies, anytime a closer comes
in and clunks it up and blows the safe, what
almost always starts those innings. Almost always what starts those
innings is when you walk the first batter, right, you
go back and it doesn't matter it was I'll bet
I haven't even looked I was. I was doing a podcast,
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doing some other things. I haven't even looked, but I
will guess that Mariano Rivera, remember when he blew a
save against the Arizona Diamondbacks in the Was that two
or three on a one World Series? Yep, somebody checked
that inning, and see did he walk the first batter?
They almost always walked the first batter, right, That's how
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all of these rallies start. You know, he walked the
first batter. He can't walk the first batter. That's what happens.
And in basketball, when it inevitably happens, when you when
you have some great finish, some great comeback, there was
always like, well, you missed a free throw. They were
up five, up six still would have been a two
possession game. But it's a completely different game if it's
up five as opposed up six. Last thing, we had
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a lot to talk about women's basketball, the WNBA and
Kaitlyn Clark in the last three weeks. I want you,
I want you to be honest any this even you, Sam?
Is there any world where you would honestly rather watch
a women's game than watch either of those two games
last night? Sam? No, okay, I just let's let's let's
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if we're all gonna be friends here, let's all be
real here we can say, like, hey, I like watching
Kaitlyn Clark play like it's awesome. I love how she plays.
Whatever would you rather watch? And again, I would never watch.
There's no college basketball game. I'd rather watch them last night.
Those are the best players in the world. They make
crazy shots because they're crazy talented. Do they complain about
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the officiating? Yes? Is it is it grab and hold fast? Sure,
but fans are into it. The skill levels incredible, the
athleticism miss incredible, the comebacks were remarkable. The whole thing
was awesome. And so if anybody wants to go like, well,
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I don't watch the NBA, like, okay, so you missed
the best of the best. Here's Anthony Davis last night
after the game.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Can he tickets through that last play and just what
happened and what unfolded and what was I don't know
if you were screened or what happened at last play?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Jamalmoreon Radershot, Jamal Murray made a shot and he did
the Kobe mic drop.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah.
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in the fourth quarter. And that's not bad defense. That's
why you have a mismatch of a guard on a
big where the only thing you can do when you
have a guy that big is you know, trying out
quick them to the basket or out quit them to
a spot and then get to a step back. But
they lost. When you have a twenty point lead, you lose,
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not because of the runs you're giving up. You can't
give up threes supposed to twos, but you stop scoring,
stop executing offensively. You got to keep scoring, gotta keep
find ways to keep getting points. And if you get
to the free throw line, even better because that lets
you set your defense and catch your breath. But we
all point to the defensive breakdowns and Barkley and Kenny
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Smith and they were talking about why are you doubling
Jokics late in the game, now a sudden you're giving
up three pointers. Those are fair and but the reality
is if you're up twenty and Anthony Davis stops getting
the ball, stops getting shots, you stop scoring. That's why
he lost twenty point lead.
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Of course, he played thirteen years in the league. He's
a member of the Spurs NBA champion team in ninety nine.
Of course, he's a coloradus for the Pelicans and the
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Pels lost Game one great game, well played, close game.
They lose to the Oklahoma City Thunder and Tone joins
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What's it likely we see Zion in the series?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I have no idea. I mean, obviously, two weeks from
the injury would be May first, right, And he spoke
to the media for the first time today, and he
has to test that he has to pass. So two
weeks from reevaluation, right, simple will reevaluation would be May first.
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And I'm unsure, but we know how this works. You know,
there's if by some chance he gets clear, there there
are tests that he has to pass. You know, there's
a ramp up that have to happen. So I have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, it feels like again outside, it feels like
you get kind of one chance at a road win, right,
you get one chance. The Lakers sort of had a
chance the game one. Game two had a legit shot.
I don't know if the Sons have a shot in
game two. They definitely didn't in game one. What about
the Pels? How likely are we to see as competitive
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game too as we were in Game one.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The thing is there's not a team in this league,
doug that have more road wins than the Pelicans do.
That's where they have sales all year. And I can't
even explain to you why, because usually younger teams tend
to play better at home, but this Pelicans team, it
was almost an anomaly. They're younger, a little more inexperienced,
so to speak, but they played better on the road.
They had the best road record, the most road wins
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in the league this year. So I mean this thing.
Leading up to that game on some leading up to
the game on Sunday, they had won six previous road games.
They won their last six row games. That would have been
a second time this year they have won seven road
games in a row. So I have confidence in the
team on the road. I have a lot of confidence
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in the team on the road for whatever reason, a
reason I can't explain, and they have an issue explaining
they played better on the road this year than they have.
They performed better on the road this year than.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They have at home, I thought, and like, you've been
on a championship team, right, And so the questions about
the thunder we sort of had answered in Game one,
because at the end of the day, no matter what
everybody else does in the regular season. Shay's really your
your guy to carry you in the postseason. And though
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he hit you know, his two big shots, you know
he's still he's not a three point shooter. And it
doesn't feel like they have anybody else who can create
for himself and create for others. Am I am I missing?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Is that an unfair determination to make based on one
game played in playoffs?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Here's my thing. I don't like making determinations on one
game anyway. This is always a We had this conversation
on my Terris XIM show yesterday. It's always funny to
me too. During this time of the year, people are
swayed so easily by one performance, by one game. Like
there's different interviews that I've done where somebody will pick
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a team prior to the interview, and after one game
they're ready to switch what they said after one game.
And here's the thing. When you're on the roads, when
you're the road team, even though there hasn't been a
road victory yet in these playoffs, you're only going for
a split. Yep, it's a blessing to win both. That's
very rare. But no matter how bad you play in
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game one. Think about how bad Dallas looked in game one.
Think about how bad Phoenix looked in game one. If
Dallas wins in game two, if Phoenix wins in game two,
that's the sole purpose of going on the road for you,
stolen back on court. So for me, it's I don't
like making determinations on because things the narrative switches so quick, Doug,
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It switches so quickly, So we say things like, well,
I think I've seen all I need to see from
the thunder lo and behold something happens where they lose
three games in a row. Then the thought processes all
where I knew they were too young to win, So
the narratives changed too much, And for me, I kind
of like to sit back and watch things play themselves out.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, what about the Mavericks. How fixable were their issues
from game one?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
For me, it was weird. For me. That was the
most disappointing performance for me, just because I felt like Dallas, honestly,
with the most dangerous Western Conference team coming into the playoffs.
By the way they were playing, they were extremely dangerous
when you have Kyrie and Luca, and they won the
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trade deadline by getting Daniel Gaffer, they upgraded PJ. Washington
from Grant Williams. They upgrade to Daniel Gaffer and Dereck
Rively as opposed to Matsy Cleban Dwhite pal They've upgraded,
and then to go out in the game of that
magnitude and then say after the game, well, Kawhi Leonard
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wasn't playing, so we let our guard down. They came
out with zero energy, zero energy, which was surprising to me.
But it was also surprising to me to watch the
Dallas Maverick at we have home court like they did.
It was almost like there's a I don't know if
you want to call it organizational confidence or organizational arrogance
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that we don't need home courts. We don't need home
court to beat the LA Clippers, because throughout the course
of the regular season they had an opportunity to secure
home court and they chose not to. So then for
them to come out in Game one and play with
that little amount of energy was disappointing and somewhat surprising
to me.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Doug Antonio Daniels joining us, of course, he's the lead
analyst for the New Orleans Pelicans. He's got his own
show covering the NBA on Serious Sex Sem and then,
of course he played thirteen years in the league, was
the NBA champion with the Spurs. He joins in the
Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you
talk about disappointed, for instance, I mean, we thought that
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the Heat would give us some fight. Of course, Jimmy
Butler's hurt, it doesn't appear to be a fight. But
give me your thoughts on what we've seen from the
Celtics so far in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think we've seen exactly who we thought the Celtics were.
And this is no disrespect to the Miami Heat, but
when you don't have Jimmy Butler, and when you don't
have Terry Rosier, it's a daunting cask, it's a daunting cast.
And they did show fight. They did show fight, honestly,
even though there were times where the game looked completely
out of hand. The mini Heat will never stop playing,
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and there was a point in that fourth quarter would
actually cut the lead down and Boston had to put
their starters back in the game. I think Boston for me,
it's clearcut the best team in the Eastern Conference. Kirkutt
the best team, and they have been throughout the course
of the seasons. And what helps Boston is the fact
that Giannis isn't healthy in Milwaukee, Joel Embiid's not healthy
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in Philadelphia, Julius Randall's not present in New York. So
it's it's and I mean this is because this is
this isn't Boston's fault. This is not their fault. You
play whoever is in front of you. But I don't
want to say they had a have a easier, easy road,
but they have a much easier road than the East
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than any team does coming out of the West.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would totally agree Sixers lose a game up five
at the freezing line, chance to make it six complaints
about the officiating. As a guy who's been in those
games in those situations, what did you see?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Okay? Okay, I'm a firm believer, Doug, that two things
can be true at the same time. Was there a
miscall at the end of the game? There was, But
did the Philadelphia seventy six Ers do what they could
have done to prevent that call from impacting the outcome?
They didn't. Kyle Lowry split two free throws, and here's
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my biggest issue with the game yesterday. When that ball
goes through Jalen Brunton gets that kind bounce from that corner,
Why not call a timeout when the ball goes through
in advance to basketball? That's my question. But why the
wait for Listen, Doug, You've been in this position before,
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You've been in this position numerous times. Where's the worst
place to inbound the basketball at the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Underneath the basket. If you don't have a.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Plan right into dat Man's corner, it's to dat Man's corner.
So you basically put Terse Maxi in a position where
he's being double teemed, and he's also had the sideline
and the baseline as a defender. You have an opportunity
to prevent all of that the moment that ball goes
through caught timeout, Like, why be apprehensive about calling a
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timeout in that you can call a timeout in advance
to basketball. Now you come to the side you script
up and out of bounds play. Now we're not even
talking about the officiating. We're not even talking about the
fact that Teres Maxie's jersey got held or that Josh
Hart knocked him off of his spot. We're not even
having that discussion, the two things could be true at
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the same time. Did the officials myth two calls at
the end of the game yet? But did the Philadelphia
seventy six ers do all that they could have done
to prevent those myth calls from impacting the outcome? I
don't think they did. That's last year. The officials are
not why the New York Knicks won that game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
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best man. Really appreciate join.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Us for sure, appreciate you though, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Antonio Danis played third teen years in the NBA, member
of the Spurs championship team in ninety nine. I'll add
to this. I don't agree actually with the now part
of it is again, I am playing the NBA as
much I did. I've played NBA rules, played international rules,
and I know you can advance the ball, getting the
ball in bounds when you have the full court, and
you can run the baseline on a made shot, you
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can run up and down the baseline. That's absolutely I
think that's the best place to get it in. Now
he's talking about the what did he call it? The
what corner of the dead man's corner. That's when you
throw it in. Dead Man's corner is actually right in
front of if you're taking the ball out, you don't
take the ball out underneath the basket. Do you know
why Jays do when? Yet? I don't because there have
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been times in which guys go to throw a baseball
pass and they hit the backboard. If you hit the
back of the backboard, it's out of bounds. So you're
taught to never take the ball out of out of
bounds on any So dead man's corner, you're off to
a side just to the side of the hoop. That
side of the court is where you're not supposed to
throw the ball into because the guy guarding you can
then turn in double team the ball and there's no
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space to get the ball back to you. But there's
a million different inbounds options. I just thought, I thought,
I agree that Nick Nurse did a bad job, but
they should have a set inbounds play or series of
them to get the ball inbounds, and once you do,
you hold the ball and you get foult or you
have easy options. And if Joelan beats a good free
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throw sho to which he is, that should be the
number one guy you get the ball to because he's
the biggest target. But all these things you used you
usually learn growing up. That's like aau inbounds one on one,
just get it, get open and get the ball.
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eight million dollars deal with Nike and what I'm sure
will come out of that conversation. But I did want
to talk about this KAYLEA Williams thing because the quotes
about KAYLEB Williams, so many of them are man is
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he confident?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Is he arrogant?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Does he act entitled? And some of it does revolve
around anil. Have you ever heard this quote before? Hard
times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good
times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
Has ever heard that? So everybody I know apparently grew
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up poor. How do I know that? Ask anybody? Oh
I grew up poor? Really? Yeah? Yeah? I walked barefoot
uphill to school, uphill home. Right, it's uphill both ways.
It's really a hard route to go to you ask anybody.
No one goes like, yeah, I kind of grew up
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like upper middle class, Like we belonged to a country club.
You know, my dad had a good job, My mom
had a good job. Nobody's in trouble with love. Everyone's
like dude. My mom and dad before they got divorced,
they fired weaponry at each other, the knives across and
then we lived in the toughest part of town, and
nobody spoke English or Spanish or French. It was all
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everybody spoke gibberish, you know, like you name it. There
is some form of tough upbringing that we all had,
and we want to prove. I think by saying that
that we're tougher than this generation, it does stand a reason.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's like, I give you an example. My son last
Wednesday night, I'm take him to basketball practice and the
basketball workout. It's only like fifteen minutes away, but at
that time of night, it takes like forty five minutes
to get there. So we get there and we had
a little miscommunication about his basketball bag. He asked if
I had his bag, and I was like, yeah, I
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picked you up from school. We went and got something
to eat, we hung out a little bit, and then
we went to your basketball practice. I didn't know he
didn't bring his basketball back to school, so we didn't
have his shoes. So he's like, hey, could you just
go over to Dixon buy me a pair? Like, think
about saying that to your parents, Like, hey, I forgot
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my shoes for a practice, can you just go buy
me a pair? Now, the reality is he's growing like
a weed, so he always goes out of his shoes.
He did kind of need like a practice pair. They're
not like crazy expenses like he needs like the nicest
or best or whatever. And we did drive forty five
minutes one way, it's thirty five minutes back, Like we're
really going to go there and not and just sit
there and not practice. That seems very as opposed to
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I can go get a pair of shoes and in
ten minutes he can be practicing. Right, But think about
how our parents would respond to that, right, Like do
you remember when you went shopping for shoes with your
folks and trying to talk them into buying a you know,
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the the nicest sneakers and then you would do you
wear them home? Right? Do you wear them home? And
then you put the old sneakers in the into the box.
I bring this up because the question about Kayleb Williams,
the questions about these players they have buy and large
very few of them will have played. This is Marvin
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Harrison played at one school, Kayleb Williams at two. Most
of these guys that play at one or two schools,
but this is the last year or two that you're
gonna have that. You're gonna start to have a litany
of three four school guys. Why is that important. Well,
if you haven't been in one place for more than
a year or two years, you don't know anything about
relationship building and culture building. You haven't been through the
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tough times. Now, if a kid goes to a school
during his freshman year and he doesn't play well, then
he leaves and goes to another program where he can
play immediately correct. So you haven't done the I was
a backup for two years, then a spot starter, then
became an All League guy, and now I got a
chance to make some money. Like, they haven't been through that.
(28:42):
They haven't been through the hard times, which creates strong men,
and then the strong men create the good times. They've
been in the good times, which create the weak men,
and weak men create hard times. This is it's a
real thing. There was the Josh Rosen. When Josh Rosen
(29:03):
was drafted, you know, there was a lot of Josh
Rosen in the personality. Both his parents were Ivy League educated,
and the thought was that Josh Rosen because one of
his parents, I believe is some sort of brain doctor.
Like the second he gets concussion, his mom's going to
come and go, like, what are we doing? Shut this
thing down. We got plenty of money, we don't need it.
(29:24):
That turned out Josh Rosen wasn't good enough to hang
out and be in the league long enough. But again,
the reality is, or the perception which becomes the reality,
is that Josh Rosen, because he came from affluence, because
his parents were educated, because he was educated, he didn't
really need football. So if the going got tough, he
would get going. That's the same thing we think about
(29:48):
all these quarterbacks now. Yes, Amy a.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Similar quote, Doug that is so sort of runts parallel
to the weak men's strong men quote you just shared.
I actually learned this from a John Adams miniseries with
Paul Jamonti. But John Quincy Adams former president, actually said this,
I have to study politics and war so that my
sons can study mathematics, commerce and agriculture, so their sons
(30:17):
can study poetry, painting and music. Yeah, it's a good quote, yes,
the accurate And look, yeah, all of my friends that
were better than not as good as for light years
better than in terms of players, Like it's really interesting
on what their kids are like almost all of them.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The kids are just amazing kids. Some of them are
spoiled brats, most of them are like amazing kids, you know,
and you always want to send your kid to a
better school than Like I went to public schools. You know,
my first three years of education in California K through three,
I was it was at a school that was bilingual,
(30:59):
and it was not It was not a great school,
so I had to go. I had to go up
levels for math and for English classes until I went
to a different program like four through six and then
high school. I went to a public school, so I
didn't want my school. There was a big shooting on
the tennis courts during my senior year, Like, you don't
want that for your kid, right you want to. On
(31:21):
the other hand, when you go to a school of affluence,
there's all kinds of other issues. And everyone I know
who's quote unquote made it on some level financially, they
all like, how do you get your kid to be
as wanted as bad as we wanted it, And we
wanted it because whether it was real or imagine, we
thought this was our only way to get it to
get out. Honestly, Like, I'll tell you another part to it,
(31:45):
and you tell me if you guys, tell me if
I'm crazy. A motivator for many kids, and I would
say myself included, right is you'd watch a college game
be like, man, don't you want to be on TV?
Don't you want to be somebody? It wasn't the money.
It was I love the sports. I love competing, and
you could become somebody. And I became somebody because of it.
(32:08):
But now you can become somebody just commenting on other
people on your phone without ever leaving your home. I
don't know who's in the Phase clan, but my son does.
He can name everybody in Phase clan.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Who.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
There's also something that migos right, obviously they lost, uh
the take off?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
What died?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's take off right? Alrp to takeoff. They're apparently arguing
about who's better in basketball when he got shot, always
a smart reason for an argument. But there's another group.
I'll have to tell. I'll text him he's home sick
that he's like, oh Dad, you don't know about the
Fox group or something like that. Here's all the people
(32:58):
that are in it. I like all the rap. The
point is like you don't actually have to accomplish anything.
You can just find ways know the algorithm, have a
YouTube page and comment on people that have accomplished things,
and that is your that could be your startup. So
we've taken away the energy some kids have to win financially.
(33:27):
We've taken away that some have to make it in
terms of into a broader platform where you can become
a star outside of your chosen field. And we have
all these talented kids that have been talented, have been revered,
have been on top ten lists, top one hundred lists,
and getting paid at a lower level. Now they get
(33:48):
to the NFL where they made it, but in many ways,
their locker rooms, stadiums, and some even their salaries were
better at the college level. I just think it's a
fascinating experience, experiment into what will life look like now
that we have players that have been in college when
(34:10):
they went through COVID and then they went through you know,
all this online stuff which keeps people away from each other,
which makes them it and the cell phones make it
harder to have them have regular discussions with each other.
And then you threw it throw in the fact that
they're already famous and they're already wealthy and they don't
need it. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create
(34:36):
good times. Good times create week ben, and week ben
create hard times. It's going to be interesting to see
if that quote proves accurate as this year's draft class
matriculates into the NFL.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hey, Doug, next time your son forgets his shoes, yeah,
just remind him that Jim Thorpe won two gold medals
after you fished a mismatched pair of shoes out of
the trash, So you can do that too.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So Jim Thorpe, Jim Thorpe. You think Jim Thorpe, when
he chose Syracuse worried about what the nil was going
to be. I don't know. I don't know. You only
knew nil as nil. Caitlin Clark Sigmer. Was it twenty
eight million?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Jay stew Is that it twenty million over eight years,
or could be. It's also says it could be worth
up to eight twenty eight million dollars. We have no
idea the actual value of it. My guess is some
of it's time to sal tied to sales. My other
guess is going to be that they'll probably put it
in a really, really good shoe so that they can
(35:36):
sell it a lot like the Sabrina. How do you
pronounce it? They're an escue escue, en escue, yes, to go?
Why en escue?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Okay, her shoes are crazy popular, but really, in truth,
I believe those are actually the Kyriees, and so when
they stopped doing business with Kyrie, they just moved those
over to hers and they made them the team shoe.
So it's in play the sales, but it's a gigantic
success as a shoe, so it could be up to
twenty eight million. That's a lot of money. So do
(36:15):
we still think Nike's racist because they don't have a
black woman with her own shoe yet like basketball play women,
because that's what social media thought right.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
That to me is the most interesting part of this
entire thing. I don't care about the shoe, what it
looks like. I don't even care about how much she makes.
I do like the fact that in the wake of
this being reported last week, someone put out a news
report I think it was a sporting news and they
had three pictures and all three women that have signature
shoes from I think Puma, Adidas, and Nike are white
(36:52):
and for some reason that means that Nike is against
black people.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yes, even though Nike is synonymous with Tiger Woods, I
know they're not in business anymore. Michael Jordan, Serena Williams,
Venus Williams as well Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick, Yeah, I
just I will tell you this for the the I'll
(37:20):
use the term mob because it is it becomes like
a Twitter mob mob mentality sort of thing. Not the mob,
not the Italian a and not that mob, but to
the Twitter mob out there. The point is this actually
makes a great point, which is it is never enough.
There's no amount that will ever be enough. You have
(37:43):
to if you want in on that line of thinking,
it has to be the first thing you think of
every day and every night before you go to bed.
And no one decision can be made without taking that
into account. Right, And I listen, I understand if we
(38:05):
go back sixty seventy and some place even forty years ago,
there are parts of society which it's disgraceful how they
treated people who if their skin wasn't white. But we
have gotten to a point where there is that It's like,
(38:28):
how many times can you take out past vengeance on
every white human being, especially when a corporation like do
they have their own issues with how the clothing and
shoes are made overseas? Sure, okay, but in an effort
to whether it's cover up for or make good on.
(38:50):
I mean, remember, this is an organ based company that
has supported every different part of women's rights, well you
know women's rights.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Or uh.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Or even you know, minority hiring practices whatever. Like, literally
they have. Nike is not someone who anyone's ever pointed
at as going like hey, man, like what's going on
with Nike? And this is like the most obvious signing
ever ever ever, And I believe and again this is
(39:29):
based upon reading. I don't know this from firsthand knowledge
like having talked to an agent about it. But the
three players to have a signature shoe, right, one is Sabrina,
one is Caitlin Clark. Who's the other one it's what's
her name that played at Yukon, won four national titles, right,
Brianna Stewart Is that Brianna Stord? Yeah, Brita Stewart I
(39:51):
think has a shoe with Puma. And the reason she
has a shoe with Puma was Nike wasn't going to
give her a signature shoe, so she left. Because here's
a weird thing about Nike. They like to make money.
And the other part that's really interesting is, how do
you say Jah Wilson, Asia Asia Wilson, Asia Wilson. Asia
(40:16):
Wilson doesn't have her own shoe, but she had her
own shoe kind of colored design on a shoe that's
been out there. What does that feel like? That feels
like dipping the toe into Hey, let's just see how
popular she is. Are you guys familiar with the cactus
(40:36):
jack shoes at all? I am not anybody, because Travis
Scott has his own shoes, right, but their version of
Nikes and the reason that he has his own version
of Nikes that are tailor made and specifically and they
(41:00):
are up to one thousand dollars a pair. Do you
know why? Because they sellay Because they sell And we
talked about this Monday, or we talked about this last week,
and we'll talk about it forever. Right, If Nike can
sell Asia Wilson's shoes and get a return and increase
(41:24):
on shoe sales, that I think I think twelve percent
is their minimum. At twelve percent per year, they will
design her shoes because that covers all the marketing, the
R and D, everything that takes place. If they don't,
they won't. We do this in every other business. It's like,
(41:44):
why did the Longhorn Network fail? You know why long
Horn network fail? Well, they did a study and the
study showed that the Big twelve did not have enough
people to watch their games on TV. They couldn't form
a network. And the research show that the only two
brands in that league that could together form a network
(42:05):
where Texas and Texas A and M. Well A and
M left and went to the SEC. So Texas tried
to have one by themselves and guess what did It failed?
And the same thing happened with the Pac twelve. That's
why they had all those dumb regional networks because everyone said, like,
this won't work as one network. There's just not enough
people that care enough about all the Olympic sports in
(42:25):
the football and guess what. It worked for a period
of time, but it didn't generate enough buzz and enough
money and that's why it's going away. Here's the biggest problem.
We have non business people trying to say that businesses
are making decisions about something that has nothing to do
with business,
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In two games decided by essentially two different shots, Dante DiVincenzo,
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Why Dante, as he's remembered from his star days at Villanova,
hitt a big three to bring the Knicks back. We'll
get to that one. And then Jamaal Murray with a
step back jump shot over extended hand of Anthony Davis
and the Nuggets complete a come back from down twenty
in the fourth quarter to win Game two and take
(01:08):
a commanding two games to none lead. Welcome, in this
is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Dan Byers here, Jason Stewart
is year, I was same here. Even Elijah's here as
he's fixing the cameras in studio, part of our our
great digital team. So a lot to get to. I
think we focus on the Lakers Nuggets just because what
was at stake. And I had told you last year
(01:30):
that I thought, I mean last week that I thought
the Lakers would be more competitive this year than they
were last year. With the Nuggets. They kind of figured
out how to guard him. They've gotten a little bit better.
And the Nuggets, I don't think their benches as good.
And the Nuggets are a dominant team at home, I
mean dominant, so to have them down twenty at their
(01:53):
place had to put the fear of God in the
hearts of the Nuggets. But I want you to think
about this for a second, you know, really think about
it for a second. How would the world look today
if the Lakers had closed that game out? To think
(02:15):
about that and what we do. And this is I
understand how sports work. I understand we all have add
We're always on to the next game and it's not
supposed to matter. But The reality is the Lakers are
very unlikely to make this a seven game series. It good, okay,
(02:38):
And so let's say they lose in five or six
or maybe even four. You can sit there and go like, hey,
games three and games four they weren't that close, so
game two is the outlier. But yeah, when you have
a deem down twenty at their place and they don't
ever lose at home and they can't figure out how
to stop you when they can't and you then you
(03:08):
can't close them out, it feels like a loss and
a half as opposed to a win. Feels like a
win and a half. Here's Lebron James talking about the
officiating after the game.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't understand what's going on in a replay center,
to be honest, I said it. I think I said
it this year or last year, whatever. Delo clearly gets
hit in a face on a drive. We have a
replay centers. This is going to go that doesn't It
doesn't make sense to me. It makes no sense to me.
It bothers me. I'm sorry to ask you a question,
but that is like, and then I just saw what
(03:40):
happened with the Sixers nickname too. What are we what
are we doing?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And look, I get it, I'm against clearly blown calls,
and the D'Angel Russell one was a blown call. But
I also tell you that there is there's something about
this sport that you actually need real aau to prepare
you for. So this is kind of an interesting aside,
(04:10):
at least to me. And if you guys don't follow
or don't find an interest, that's fine. But you sports
in our country have a tendency to get a bad rap,
and some of it is accurate basketball, especially because we
have so many foreign players coming in and starring in
quote unquote our game. So it must be how we're
(04:34):
teaching it, and on some levels it is. We don't
have enough practices. We have way too many games, and
the games don't matter that much. If you lose, you
already have a schedule. Some of the circuits you play
in four games in a weekend, regardless of how way
you win or you lose, whatever, and you still get
to advance. And if you lose in bracket play, in
(04:56):
bracket play, you often get a constellation bracket and then
another game guaranteed a number of games. That's not how
life works. But there is something to the flimsy officiating,
full court pressure, hand to hand combat, because it's a
weeding out process. Either you learn to win games that
(05:17):
way or you don't get to play in the big
games in front of all of the college scouts, in
front of all the now NBA scouts. You have to
find a way to win those games. There's a tenacity
and aggressiveness. There's a hand to hand, hand in hand
combat to it. It's even Lebron James who can plain
he drove in and he missed a layup, thought he
(05:38):
got fouled late in the game, Like, hey, dude, dunk
the ball. Don't get even when you don't make your
dunks or you get it blocked, oftentimes they call that
a foul, especially when you're Lebron James, when you're the
New York Knicks and you're taking you're Philadelphia seventy six ers.
You have to go and get the ball, and look,
there's an art to it. They're holding your jersey. You
(06:00):
have to knock their hands off and push off without
getting called for a push off, and get open and
secure the ball and hold the ball as they're fouling
the crap out of you trying to steal the ball.
You have to do that. You learn that when you
play AAU basketball. You learn that in fifth and sixth
and seventh grade. If you can't do it, you will
not play the high level AAU. And what I think
(06:23):
you end up getting is you get dudes that are
junkyard dogs, and at the end of these games they
just find a way to push a shove and make plays.
And look, if you go to the Sixers game, right,
the Sixers are at the free throw line up five,
a chance to make it six. And if you're a
baseball fan, you know this to be true. Right in baseball,
(06:46):
all of those late inning rallies, anytime a closer comes
in and clunks it up and blows the safe, what
almost always starts those innings. Almost always what starts those
innings is when you walk the first batter, right, you
go back and it doesn't matter it was I'll bet
I haven't even looked I was. I was doing a podcast,
(07:10):
doing some other things. I haven't even looked, but I
will guess that Mariano Rivera, remember when he blew a
save against the Arizona Diamondbacks in the Was that two
or three on a one World Series? Yep, somebody checked
that inning, and see did he walk the first batter?
They almost always walked the first batter, right, That's how
(07:32):
all of these rallies start. You know, he walked the
first batter. He can't walk the first batter. That's what happens.
And in basketball, when it inevitably happens, when you when
you have some great finish, some great comeback, there was
always like, well, you missed a free throw. They were
up five, up six still would have been a two
possession game. But it's a completely different game if it's
up five as opposed up six. Last thing, we had
(07:59):
a lot to talk about women's basketball, the WNBA and
Kaitlyn Clark in the last three weeks. I want you,
I want you to be honest any this even you, Sam?
Is there any world where you would honestly rather watch
a women's game than watch either of those two games
last night? Sam? No, okay, I just let's let's let's
(08:29):
if we're all gonna be friends here, let's all be
real here we can say, like, hey, I like watching
Kaitlyn Clark play like it's awesome. I love how she plays.
Whatever would you rather watch? And again, I would never watch.
There's no college basketball game. I'd rather watch them last night.
Those are the best players in the world. They make
crazy shots because they're crazy talented. Do they complain about
(08:50):
the officiating? Yes? Is it is it grab and hold fast? Sure,
but fans are into it. The skill levels incredible, the
athleticism miss incredible, the comebacks were remarkable. The whole thing
was awesome. And so if anybody wants to go like, well,
(09:10):
I don't watch the NBA, like, okay, so you missed
the best of the best. Here's Anthony Davis last night
after the game.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Can he tickets through that last play and just what
happened and what unfolded and what was I don't know
if you were screened or what happened at last play?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Jamalmoreon Radershot, Jamal Murray made a shot and he did
the Kobe mic drop.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
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Davis was awesome, and then he didn't get the ball
(10:00):
in the fourth quarter. And that's not bad defense. That's
why you have a mismatch of a guard on a
big where the only thing you can do when you
have a guy that big is you know, trying out
quick them to the basket or out quit them to
a spot and then get to a step back. But
they lost. When you have a twenty point lead, you lose,
(10:21):
not because of the runs you're giving up. You can't
give up threes supposed to twos, but you stop scoring,
stop executing offensively. You got to keep scoring, gotta keep
find ways to keep getting points. And if you get
to the free throw line, even better because that lets
you set your defense and catch your breath. But we
all point to the defensive breakdowns and Barkley and Kenny
(10:41):
Smith and they were talking about why are you doubling
Jokics late in the game, now a sudden you're giving
up three pointers. Those are fair and but the reality
is if you're up twenty and Anthony Davis stops getting
the ball, stops getting shots, you stop scoring. That's why
he lost twenty point lead.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
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Of course, he played thirteen years in the league. He's
a member of the Spurs NBA champion team in ninety nine.
Of course, he's a coloradus for the Pelicans and the
(12:12):
Pels lost Game one great game, well played, close game.
They lose to the Oklahoma City Thunder and Tone joins
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What's it likely we see Zion in the series?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I have no idea. I mean, obviously, two weeks from
the injury would be May first, right, And he spoke
to the media for the first time today, and he
has to test that he has to pass. So two
weeks from reevaluation, right, simple will reevaluation would be May first.
(12:50):
And I'm unsure, but we know how this works. You know,
there's if by some chance he gets clear, there there
are tests that he has to pass. You know, there's
a ramp up that have to happen. So I have
no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
You know, it feels like again outside, it feels like
you get kind of one chance at a road win, right,
you get one chance. The Lakers sort of had a
chance the game one. Game two had a legit shot.
I don't know if the Sons have a shot in
game two. They definitely didn't in game one. What about
the Pels? How likely are we to see as competitive
(13:28):
game too as we were in Game one.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The thing is there's not a team in this league,
doug that have more road wins than the Pelicans do.
That's where they have sales all year. And I can't
even explain to you why, because usually younger teams tend
to play better at home, but this Pelicans team, it
was almost an anomaly. They're younger, a little more inexperienced,
so to speak, but they played better on the road.
They had the best road record, the most road wins
(13:54):
in the league this year. So I mean this thing.
Leading up to that game on some leading up to
the game on Sunday, they had won six previous road games.
They won their last six row games. That would have been
a second time this year they have won seven road
games in a row. So I have confidence in the
team on the road. I have a lot of confidence
(14:15):
in the team on the road for whatever reason, a
reason I can't explain, and they have an issue explaining
they played better on the road this year than they have.
They performed better on the road this year than.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They have at home, I thought, and like, you've been
on a championship team, right, And so the questions about
the thunder we sort of had answered in Game one,
because at the end of the day, no matter what
everybody else does in the regular season. Shay's really your
your guy to carry you in the postseason. And though
(14:47):
he hit you know, his two big shots, you know
he's still he's not a three point shooter. And it
doesn't feel like they have anybody else who can create
for himself and create for others. Am I am I missing?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Is that an unfair determination to make based on one
game played in playoffs?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Here's my thing. I don't like making determinations on one
game anyway. This is always a We had this conversation
on my Terris XIM show yesterday. It's always funny to
me too. During this time of the year, people are
swayed so easily by one performance, by one game. Like
there's different interviews that I've done where somebody will pick
(15:24):
a team prior to the interview, and after one game
they're ready to switch what they said after one game.
And here's the thing. When you're on the roads, when
you're the road team, even though there hasn't been a
road victory yet in these playoffs, you're only going for
a split. Yep, it's a blessing to win both. That's
very rare. But no matter how bad you play in
(15:45):
game one. Think about how bad Dallas looked in game one.
Think about how bad Phoenix looked in game one. If
Dallas wins in game two, if Phoenix wins in game two,
that's the sole purpose of going on the road for you,
stolen back on court. So for me, it's I don't
like making determinations on because things the narrative switches so quick, Doug,
(16:07):
It switches so quickly, So we say things like, well,
I think I've seen all I need to see from
the thunder lo and behold something happens where they lose
three games in a row. Then the thought processes all
where I knew they were too young to win, So
the narratives changed too much, And for me, I kind
of like to sit back and watch things play themselves out.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, what about the Mavericks. How fixable were their issues
from game one?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
For me, it was weird. For me. That was the
most disappointing performance for me, just because I felt like Dallas, honestly,
with the most dangerous Western Conference team coming into the playoffs.
By the way they were playing, they were extremely dangerous
when you have Kyrie and Luca, and they won the
(16:53):
trade deadline by getting Daniel Gaffer, they upgraded PJ. Washington
from Grant Williams. They upgrade to Daniel Gaffer and Dereck
Rively as opposed to Matsy Cleban Dwhite pal They've upgraded,
and then to go out in the game of that
magnitude and then say after the game, well, Kawhi Leonard
(17:14):
wasn't playing, so we let our guard down. They came
out with zero energy, zero energy, which was surprising to me.
But it was also surprising to me to watch the
Dallas Maverick at we have home court like they did.
It was almost like there's a I don't know if
you want to call it organizational confidence or organizational arrogance
(17:36):
that we don't need home courts. We don't need home
court to beat the LA Clippers, because throughout the course
of the regular season they had an opportunity to secure
home court and they chose not to. So then for
them to come out in Game one and play with
that little amount of energy was disappointing and somewhat surprising
to me.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Doug Antonio Daniels joining us, of course, he's the lead
analyst for the New Orleans Pelicans. He's got his own
show covering the NBA on Serious Sex Sem and then,
of course he played thirteen years in the league, was
the NBA champion with the Spurs. He joins in the
Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, you
talk about disappointed, for instance, I mean, we thought that
(18:15):
the Heat would give us some fight. Of course, Jimmy
Butler's hurt, it doesn't appear to be a fight. But
give me your thoughts on what we've seen from the
Celtics so far in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think we've seen exactly who we thought the Celtics were.
And this is no disrespect to the Miami Heat, but
when you don't have Jimmy Butler, and when you don't
have Terry Rosier, it's a daunting cask, it's a daunting cast.
And they did show fight. They did show fight, honestly,
even though there were times where the game looked completely
out of hand. The mini Heat will never stop playing,
(18:48):
and there was a point in that fourth quarter would
actually cut the lead down and Boston had to put
their starters back in the game. I think Boston for me,
it's clearcut the best team in the Eastern Conference. Kirkutt
the best team, and they have been throughout the course
of the seasons. And what helps Boston is the fact
that Giannis isn't healthy in Milwaukee, Joel Embiid's not healthy
(19:10):
in Philadelphia, Julius Randall's not present in New York. So
it's it's and I mean this is because this is
this isn't Boston's fault. This is not their fault. You
play whoever is in front of you. But I don't
want to say they had a have a easier, easy road,
but they have a much easier road than the East
(19:30):
than any team does coming out of the West.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I would totally agree Sixers lose a game up five
at the freezing line, chance to make it six complaints
about the officiating. As a guy who's been in those
games in those situations, what did you see?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Okay? Okay, I'm a firm believer, Doug, that two things
can be true at the same time. Was there a
miscall at the end of the game? There was, But
did the Philadelphia seventy six Ers do what they could
have done to prevent that call from impacting the outcome?
They didn't. Kyle Lowry split two free throws, and here's
(20:13):
my biggest issue with the game yesterday. When that ball
goes through Jalen Brunton gets that kind bounce from that corner,
Why not call a timeout when the ball goes through
in advance to basketball? That's my question. But why the
wait for Listen, Doug, You've been in this position before,
(20:33):
You've been in this position numerous times. Where's the worst
place to inbound the basketball at the end of the game.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Underneath the basket. If you don't have a.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Plan right into dat Man's corner, it's to dat Man's corner.
So you basically put Terse Maxi in a position where
he's being double teemed, and he's also had the sideline
and the baseline as a defender. You have an opportunity
to prevent all of that the moment that ball goes
through caught timeout, Like, why be apprehensive about calling a
(21:06):
timeout in that you can call a timeout in advance
to basketball. Now you come to the side you script
up and out of bounds play. Now we're not even
talking about the officiating. We're not even talking about the
fact that Teres Maxie's jersey got held or that Josh
Hart knocked him off of his spot. We're not even
having that discussion, the two things could be true at
(21:27):
the same time. Did the officials myth two calls at
the end of the game yet? But did the Philadelphia
seventy six ers do all that they could have done
to prevent those myth calls from impacting the outcome? I
don't think they did. That's last year. The officials are
not why the New York Knicks won that game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
He's Antonio Daniels. Of course, if you enjoy him, you
can hear him on serious sex sem or check him
out when he calls the Pelicans game, telling you the
best man. Really appreciate join.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Us for sure, appreciate you though, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Antonio Danis played third teen years in the NBA, member
of the Spurs championship team in ninety nine. I'll add
to this. I don't agree actually with the now part
of it is again, I am playing the NBA as
much I did. I've played NBA rules, played international rules,
and I know you can advance the ball, getting the
ball in bounds when you have the full court, and
you can run the baseline on a made shot, you
(22:20):
can run up and down the baseline. That's absolutely I
think that's the best place to get it in. Now
he's talking about the what did he call it? The
what corner of the dead man's corner. That's when you
throw it in. Dead Man's corner is actually right in
front of if you're taking the ball out, you don't
take the ball out underneath the basket. Do you know
why Jays do when? Yet? I don't because there have
(22:43):
been times in which guys go to throw a baseball
pass and they hit the backboard. If you hit the
back of the backboard, it's out of bounds. So you're
taught to never take the ball out of out of
bounds on any So dead man's corner, you're off to
a side just to the side of the hoop. That
side of the court is where you're not supposed to
throw the ball into because the guy guarding you can
then turn in double team the ball and there's no
(23:04):
space to get the ball back to you. But there's
a million different inbounds options. I just thought, I thought,
I agree that Nick Nurse did a bad job, but
they should have a set inbounds play or series of
them to get the ball inbounds, and once you do,
you hold the ball and you get foult or you
have easy options. And if Joelan beats a good free
(23:25):
throw sho to which he is, that should be the
number one guy you get the ball to because he's
the biggest target. But all these things you used you
usually learn growing up. That's like aau inbounds one on one,
just get it, get open and get the ball.
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It's an upgrade. We don't have the excuse of well
being bad. We'll get to Kaitlin Clark signing a twenty
eight million dollars deal with Nike and what I'm sure
will come out of that conversation. But I did want
to talk about this KAYLEA Williams thing because the quotes
about KAYLEB Williams, so many of them are man is
(24:38):
he confident?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Is he arrogant?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Man?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Does he act entitled? And some of it does revolve
around anil. Have you ever heard this quote before? Hard
times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good
times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.
Has ever heard that? So everybody I know apparently grew
(25:08):
up poor. How do I know that? Ask anybody? Oh
I grew up poor? Really? Yeah? Yeah? I walked barefoot
uphill to school, uphill home. Right, it's uphill both ways.
It's really a hard route to go to you ask anybody.
No one goes like, yeah, I kind of grew up
(25:30):
like upper middle class, Like we belonged to a country club.
You know, my dad had a good job, My mom
had a good job. Nobody's in trouble with love. Everyone's
like dude. My mom and dad before they got divorced,
they fired weaponry at each other, the knives across and
then we lived in the toughest part of town, and
nobody spoke English or Spanish or French. It was all
(25:51):
everybody spoke gibberish, you know, like you name it. There
is some form of tough upbringing that we all had,
and we want to prove. I think by saying that
that we're tougher than this generation, it does stand a reason.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's like, I give you an example. My son last
Wednesday night, I'm take him to basketball practice and the
basketball workout. It's only like fifteen minutes away, but at
that time of night, it takes like forty five minutes
to get there. So we get there and we had
a little miscommunication about his basketball bag. He asked if
I had his bag, and I was like, yeah, I
(26:30):
picked you up from school. We went and got something
to eat, we hung out a little bit, and then
we went to your basketball practice. I didn't know he
didn't bring his basketball back to school, so we didn't
have his shoes. So he's like, hey, could you just
go over to Dixon buy me a pair? Like, think
about saying that to your parents, Like, hey, I forgot
(26:51):
my shoes for a practice, can you just go buy
me a pair? Now, the reality is he's growing like
a weed, so he always goes out of his shoes.
He did kind of need like a practice pair. They're
not like crazy expenses like he needs like the nicest
or best or whatever. And we did drive forty five
minutes one way, it's thirty five minutes back, Like we're
really going to go there and not and just sit
there and not practice. That seems very as opposed to
(27:14):
I can go get a pair of shoes and in
ten minutes he can be practicing. Right, But think about
how our parents would respond to that, right, Like do
you remember when you went shopping for shoes with your
folks and trying to talk them into buying a you know,
(27:35):
the the nicest sneakers and then you would do you
wear them home? Right? Do you wear them home? And
then you put the old sneakers in the into the box.
I bring this up because the question about Kayleb Williams,
the questions about these players they have buy and large
very few of them will have played. This is Marvin
(27:56):
Harrison played at one school, Kayleb Williams at two. Most
of these guys that play at one or two schools,
but this is the last year or two that you're
gonna have that. You're gonna start to have a litany
of three four school guys. Why is that important. Well,
if you haven't been in one place for more than
a year or two years, you don't know anything about
relationship building and culture building. You haven't been through the
(28:20):
tough times. Now, if a kid goes to a school
during his freshman year and he doesn't play well, then
he leaves and goes to another program where he can
play immediately correct. So you haven't done the I was
a backup for two years, then a spot starter, then
became an All League guy, and now I got a
chance to make some money. Like, they haven't been through that.
(28:42):
They haven't been through the hard times, which creates strong men,
and then the strong men create the good times. They've
been in the good times, which create the weak men,
and weak men create hard times. This is it's a
real thing. There was the Josh Rosen. When Josh Rosen
(29:03):
was drafted, you know, there was a lot of Josh
Rosen in the personality. Both his parents were Ivy League educated,
and the thought was that Josh Rosen because one of
his parents, I believe is some sort of brain doctor.
Like the second he gets concussion, his mom's going to
come and go, like, what are we doing? Shut this
thing down. We got plenty of money, we don't need it.
(29:24):
That turned out Josh Rosen wasn't good enough to hang
out and be in the league long enough. But again,
the reality is, or the perception which becomes the reality,
is that Josh Rosen, because he came from affluence, because
his parents were educated, because he was educated, he didn't
really need football. So if the going got tough, he
would get going. That's the same thing we think about
(29:48):
all these quarterbacks now. Yes, Amy a.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Similar quote, Doug that is so sort of runts parallel
to the weak men's strong men quote you just shared.
I actually learned this from a John Adams miniseries with
Paul Jamonti. But John Quincy Adams former president, actually said this,
I have to study politics and war so that my
sons can study mathematics, commerce and agriculture, so their sons
(30:17):
can study poetry, painting and music. Yeah, it's a good quote, yes,
the accurate And look, yeah, all of my friends that
were better than not as good as for light years
better than in terms of players, Like it's really interesting
on what their kids are like almost all of them.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The kids are just amazing kids. Some of them are
spoiled brats, most of them are like amazing kids, you know,
and you always want to send your kid to a
better school than Like I went to public schools. You know,
my first three years of education in California K through three,
I was it was at a school that was bilingual,
(30:59):
and it was not It was not a great school,
so I had to go. I had to go up
levels for math and for English classes until I went
to a different program like four through six and then
high school. I went to a public school, so I
didn't want my school. There was a big shooting on
the tennis courts during my senior year, Like, you don't
want that for your kid, right you want to. On
(31:21):
the other hand, when you go to a school of affluence,
there's all kinds of other issues. And everyone I know
who's quote unquote made it on some level financially, they
all like, how do you get your kid to be
as wanted as bad as we wanted it, And we
wanted it because whether it was real or imagine, we
thought this was our only way to get it to
get out. Honestly, Like, I'll tell you another part to it,
(31:45):
and you tell me if you guys, tell me if
I'm crazy. A motivator for many kids, and I would
say myself included, right is you'd watch a college game
be like, man, don't you want to be on TV?
Don't you want to be somebody? It wasn't the money.
It was I love the sports. I love competing, and
you could become somebody. And I became somebody because of it.
(32:08):
But now you can become somebody just commenting on other
people on your phone without ever leaving your home. I
don't know who's in the Phase clan, but my son does.
He can name everybody in Phase clan.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Who.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
There's also something that migos right, obviously they lost, uh
the take off?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
What died?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
It's take off right? Alrp to takeoff. They're apparently arguing
about who's better in basketball when he got shot, always
a smart reason for an argument. But there's another group.
I'll have to tell. I'll text him he's home sick
that he's like, oh Dad, you don't know about the
Fox group or something like that. Here's all the people
(32:58):
that are in it. I like all the rap. The
point is like you don't actually have to accomplish anything.
You can just find ways know the algorithm, have a
YouTube page and comment on people that have accomplished things,
and that is your that could be your startup. So
we've taken away the energy some kids have to win financially.
(33:27):
We've taken away that some have to make it in
terms of into a broader platform where you can become
a star outside of your chosen field. And we have
all these talented kids that have been talented, have been revered,
have been on top ten lists, top one hundred lists,
and getting paid at a lower level. Now they get
(33:48):
to the NFL where they made it, but in many ways,
their locker rooms, stadiums, and some even their salaries were
better at the college level. I just think it's a
fascinating experience, experiment into what will life look like now
that we have players that have been in college when
(34:10):
they went through COVID and then they went through you know,
all this online stuff which keeps people away from each other,
which makes them it and the cell phones make it
harder to have them have regular discussions with each other.
And then you threw it throw in the fact that
they're already famous and they're already wealthy and they don't
need it. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create
(34:36):
good times. Good times create week ben, and week ben
create hard times. It's going to be interesting to see
if that quote proves accurate as this year's draft class
matriculates into the NFL.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Hey, Doug, next time your son forgets his shoes, yeah,
just remind him that Jim Thorpe won two gold medals
after you fished a mismatched pair of shoes out of
the trash, So you can do that too.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
So Jim Thorpe, Jim Thorpe. You think Jim Thorpe, when
he chose Syracuse worried about what the nil was going
to be. I don't know. I don't know. You only
knew nil as nil. Caitlin Clark Sigmer. Was it twenty
eight million?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Jay stew Is that it twenty million over eight years,
or could be. It's also says it could be worth
up to eight twenty eight million dollars. We have no
idea the actual value of it. My guess is some
of it's time to sal tied to sales. My other
guess is going to be that they'll probably put it
in a really, really good shoe so that they can
(35:36):
sell it a lot like the Sabrina. How do you
pronounce it? They're an escue escue, en escue, yes, to go?
Why en escue?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Okay, her shoes are crazy popular, but really, in truth,
I believe those are actually the Kyriees, and so when
they stopped doing business with Kyrie, they just moved those
over to hers and they made them the team shoe.
So it's in play the sales, but it's a gigantic
success as a shoe, so it could be up to
twenty eight million. That's a lot of money. So do
(36:15):
we still think Nike's racist because they don't have a
black woman with her own shoe yet like basketball play women,
because that's what social media thought right.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
That to me is the most interesting part of this
entire thing. I don't care about the shoe, what it
looks like. I don't even care about how much she makes.
I do like the fact that in the wake of
this being reported last week, someone put out a news
report I think it was a sporting news and they
had three pictures and all three women that have signature
shoes from I think Puma, Adidas, and Nike are white
(36:52):
and for some reason that means that Nike is against
black people.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yes, even though Nike is synonymous with Tiger Woods, I
know they're not in business anymore. Michael Jordan, Serena Williams,
Venus Williams as well Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick, Yeah, I
just I will tell you this for the the I'll
(37:20):
use the term mob because it is it becomes like
a Twitter mob mob mentality sort of thing. Not the mob,
not the Italian a and not that mob, but to
the Twitter mob out there. The point is this actually
makes a great point, which is it is never enough.
There's no amount that will ever be enough. You have
(37:43):
to if you want in on that line of thinking,
it has to be the first thing you think of
every day and every night before you go to bed.
And no one decision can be made without taking that
into account. Right, And I listen, I understand if we
(38:05):
go back sixty seventy and some place even forty years ago,
there are parts of society which it's disgraceful how they
treated people who if their skin wasn't white. But we
have gotten to a point where there is that It's like,
(38:28):
how many times can you take out past vengeance on
every white human being, especially when a corporation like do
they have their own issues with how the clothing and
shoes are made overseas? Sure, okay, but in an effort
to whether it's cover up for or make good on.
(38:50):
I mean, remember, this is an organ based company that
has supported every different part of women's rights, well you
know women's rights.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Or uh.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Or even you know, minority hiring practices whatever. Like, literally
they have. Nike is not someone who anyone's ever pointed
at as going like hey, man, like what's going on
with Nike? And this is like the most obvious signing
ever ever ever, And I believe and again this is
(39:29):
based upon reading. I don't know this from firsthand knowledge
like having talked to an agent about it. But the
three players to have a signature shoe, right, one is Sabrina,
one is Caitlin Clark. Who's the other one it's what's
her name that played at Yukon, won four national titles, right,
Brianna Stewart Is that Brianna Stord? Yeah, Brita Stewart I
(39:51):
think has a shoe with Puma. And the reason she
has a shoe with Puma was Nike wasn't going to
give her a signature shoe, so she left. Because here's
a weird thing about Nike. They like to make money.
And the other part that's really interesting is, how do
you say Jah Wilson, Asia Asia Wilson, Asia Wilson. Asia
(40:16):
Wilson doesn't have her own shoe, but she had her
own shoe kind of colored design on a shoe that's
been out there. What does that feel like? That feels
like dipping the toe into Hey, let's just see how
popular she is. Are you guys familiar with the cactus
(40:36):
jack shoes at all? I am not anybody, because Travis
Scott has his own shoes, right, but their version of
Nikes and the reason that he has his own version
of Nikes that are tailor made and specifically and they
(41:00):
are up to one thousand dollars a pair. Do you
know why? Because they sellay Because they sell And we
talked about this Monday, or we talked about this last week,
and we'll talk about it forever. Right, If Nike can
sell Asia Wilson's shoes and get a return and increase
(41:24):
on shoe sales, that I think I think twelve percent
is their minimum. At twelve percent per year, they will
design her shoes because that covers all the marketing, the
R and D, everything that takes place. If they don't,
they won't. We do this in every other business. It's like,
(41:44):
why did the Longhorn Network fail? You know why long
Horn network fail? Well, they did a study and the
study showed that the Big twelve did not have enough
people to watch their games on TV. They couldn't form
a network. And the research show that the only two
brands in that league that could together form a network
(42:05):
where Texas and Texas A and M. Well A and
M left and went to the SEC. So Texas tried
to have one by themselves and guess what did It failed?
And the same thing happened with the Pac twelve. That's
why they had all those dumb regional networks because everyone said, like,
this won't work as one network. There's just not enough
people that care enough about all the Olympic sports in
(42:25):
the football and guess what. It worked for a period
of time, but it didn't generate enough buzz and enough
money and that's why it's going away. Here's the biggest problem.
We have non business people trying to say that businesses
are making decisions about something that has nothing to do
with business,
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