May 9, 2024 • 27 mins
Doug riffs on game two of the Knicks-Pacers series and how bad the officiating was. Doug chooses among deserving candidates who Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Doug reacts to what James Jones said about Austin Rivers claiming 30 NBA players could play in the NFL right now. Plus, Doug gives out his Pick Of The Day.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Doug Gottli Show. Heres in the bonus
with Doug Gottli.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What do the bonus? Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome
in Man. There's so much to get to here, but
I want to start with this. Last night, the Knicks
beat the Indiana Pacers for the second consecutive time to
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take a commanding two games to none lead in the
best of seven n be A Eastern Conference semifinal series,
and Rick Carlisle said basically said, like, hey, all these miscalls,
it's about small market teams. And there's one very very
obvious guy who's responsible for this. Do you know what
it is. It's Tim Donaghe. This is what Tim donaghe
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has done. Okay, Tim Doneghie's actions are so reprehensible, so
reprehensible that they need they badly, badly, badly need to
be pointed out as the reason behind it. Because what
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Tim Doneghey allowed us to believe was that the NBA
could predetermine who would win a game. And I thought
the officiating was it was dog shit. I by the way,
the officiating the first half of the thunder Mavericks series
was equally dog shit. Similar type of place shake Guildess.
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Alexander drives to the basket, Daniel Gafford picks him up,
got both hands in the air, shake Guildess. Alexander creates contact,
shoots the basketball and there's a foul on Daniel Gaffert
and Daniel Gafferd's playing perfect defense, without reaching in, without jumping,
without nothing. Okay, But you know, equally, the Mavericks felt
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like they were getting bodied, they were getting pushed, they
were getting shoved, and calls were not being made. Matter
of fact, the Thunder had twenty two, twenty two free
throws in the first half of Game one, stock shit officiating.
It's inarguable, inarguable, So I don't but I don't think
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it's about big market. I do think it's about just
the olden days of home team gets calls and I look,
the energy in MSG is unbelievable. It's a vicious atmosphere.
Somehow it's okay for them to say FU to Reggie Miller. Right,
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It's just it's a nasty, nasty place to go and play.
It's a swamp. It's what, frankly, on many levels, makes
basketball the best. It's the best sport. You don't get
that in football. Sort of, but not really proximity to
the sport. You know, there's no you know, you just
don't get it. Places now are too quiet to take
the dog pound. And back when Candlestick Park used to
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chuck batteries at people, right, that used to be the
nastiest atmospheres in the in those sports. But even that
can't compare to Madison Square Garden. You got a bunch
of New York East Coast complete fucking assholes who haven't
won shit in fifty fucking years, and they're taking it
out on the other team. It's a reality of it,
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and refs are human beings and they get caught up
in it. But I mean, there's no way, no other
way to say than they got fucking screwed last night,
and they got screwed. I mean game one, you're gonna
call a moving screen at the end of a game
when every screen people move on every fucking screen, crazy crazy,
crazy crazy. I think Rick Carlisle's right, but I think
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he's wrong about it being about small market teams.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
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Speaker 2 (04:09):
Let's find out who were what? What isn't maybe annoying
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All right, Jay Stu, what's annoying you today?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Rules for roasts? I don't think roast should have rules.
I think by definition celebrity roasts should be everything's in play,
and if not everything's in play, then you shouldn't agree
to be roasted. It was my speculation on Monday that
I think that his bastard child that he had alongside
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his current child was off limits because nobody touched on that.
That's good comic fodder. And then we learned today by
comedian Andrew Schultz learned this.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
When Tom checked Jeff Ross.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I think that was one undercent real. Oh yeah, so,
jif so.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think he got cut from the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I'll tell you alls, because the reason why I think
it's real is because they told us no jokes about
happy endings with Bob Crafts. Because I had a Bob
Kraft tag. I had that joke about Randy Moss. I
was like, Randy Mars, you made on Super Bowl Sunday.
It's the only people celebrating a happy ending with a priest.
Oh yeah, and and then the tag was and by
and of course Bob Krafts and they're like Tom asked
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us not to do anything with the massage ship with
I was like, all right, cool, Like the guy's coming
here for this thing, like whatever, he's not getting roasted.
He's sitting in the fucking stands like.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then Jeff did it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And then Tom walks up and he goes, yo, cut
that ship out or don't do that again, don't but
think about it like this is the first comic that
goes on a live roast and it's your night. Yeah,
he was ready to shut the whole thing down. That's
an alpha ass move, right, yere.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No rules for rows stuck. I don't want there being
any parameters.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, especially that one that it's just a weird one, right,
it's a it's a very very strange one that somehow
that was off limits, like of all the things to
be off limits, right, I mean, that's the one you
got too, because there was a comedian who came up
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and said that there's a black lesbian comedian who said
that Tom Brady like liking Tom Brady to other black
athletes and like the things that she said were unbelievably offensive,
one the black people and two to Tom Brady. And
yet that's okay, but not to I think the one
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part is it is catching strays when he's not on
the dais. That's probably the only defense I would have
of it, right, like, if you're up there, it's open game.
But yeah, I don't know. To me, it signifies that
he didn't Bob Kraft didn't want to go, and he
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kind of had to talk him into going. That's what
it feels like to me. So I agree with you
in premise. I mean, I completely agree with you, Like
what are we doing? Like there are some of the
raunchiest nassists And by the way, like one of the
things that we've seen roast before, do you remember when
I think that was a roast of Whoopee Goldberg and
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her Ted Danson. Are they still together? It's been her
partner for a long time, like never been married. It's
one of those life partner deals.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Do you remember this well?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I remember Ted Danson in Blackface, right Ted Danson?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That was at a roast, famous Hollywood roast, And the
difference was that wasn't supposed to be publicized that's private
like this is, and it was you know, it's supposed
to be the raunch. So that's where you're absolutely right.
I mean, the only thing I can think of was
Tom begged him to come and said, hey, look, you're
not gonna be part of this deal.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The you talked about this on the radio show. But
I have I have an angle on this, Okay. Shaquille
O'Neill had Nicola Yokit on inside the NBA last night
right after he won the MVP, and he said this
to him.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Uh, you know, I love you, the best player in
the league. I want to congratulate you, but I want
you to hear from me first. I thought the SGA
should have been the MVP. There's no disrespect to you,
but congratulations and what do you guys have to do
to get back on track versus Minnesota? Thank you shame.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We don't judge people here, you know, So that's fine opinion.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Joking, Hey all good. I love you, I love your brothers.
One thing we always going to do is keep it
real with each other. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I think wrong place and time, and there's a
whole conversation out there, but I will say this as
a huge Jokich fan. I wonder why there's so much
disrespect for the guy openly. I wonder how why do
people feel empowered to dismiss this guy or disrespect him.
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The Kendrick Perkins saying from a year ago that you
talked about at length that probably led to Embiid winning
the MVP. JJ Reddick literally called him out for racial
comments on the air. That is a racist comment, he
said to Kendrick Perkins as he's talking about Nikola Jokic.
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Gilbert Arenas, I don't know if you followed this timeline,
but Gilbert Arena says has said on his podcast, we
should get rid of all the euros. When Draymond Green punched,
I think Nurkic he celebrated it. Draymond Green is doing
the job that the NBA should do, which is get
rid of the euro Euros is code for white players,
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white heroes. And then Shacks does this to his face.
I don't know why people are feeling empowered to be
so blatantly disrespectful to now a three time MVP.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I I'd like to think it's not racist from Shack's perspective. Okay,
because look the issue with Shaq is that is about
as every part about it is fucking awful broadcasting. Okay,
play it for me one more time so I can
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go through how fucking bad this is because the MVP
part has no place in it. I get what Shaq
was was trying to do, Like you know what I mean.
He's trying to go like, look, I'm not gonna sit
here and be phony about it and say that I
thought you should be MVP, which is I actually kind
of respect. The problem is it's not mere right, It's
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not needed there and then like the question is dog
shit kind of Let me let me let me hear
one more time.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Uh, you know, I love you, the best player in
the league. I want to congratulate you, but I want
you to hear from me.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
First.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I thought the SGA should have been the MVP. There's
no disrespect to you, but congratulations And what do you
guys have to do to get back on track versus Minnesota?
Thank you, Shav.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We don't judge people here, you know, so that's fine opinion.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Hey all good. I love you, I love your brothers.
One thing we always going to do is keep it
real with each other. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Uh, what are you going to do to get back
on track. Is actually not a terrible question, not a
terrible question, could have been could have been better, not
a terrible question. The problem is there's like no transition
between the two, right, and Yeah, I just it's it's
such a weird one. The whole thing is weird, especially
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because Shaq is like, mister defend the big guy, and
he got a big guy and he's killing the big guy.
You're the best player in the league, but SG, it
doesn't make any fucking sense, right, It's yeah, contradictionary, it's like,
but part of it is some of these guys aren't.
Shaq's actual point is that this is his I guess
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his personal criteria is fine, right, His personal criteria is
they finished with the one seed. He averaged thirty a game.
It's he's super young team, they won, he shot whatever
fifty three percent from the field. Like the numbers, Shack's
actually doing the numbers thing and kind of doing the
raw data thing.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Which is fine. It's kind of departure from who he's
always been. He's always been defended. But as far as
why there's so much negativity towards towards Jokic and not
towards Embiid. I do think there's I don't think it
has to do with the skin color. I'd like to think,
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especially with basketball players outside of I can't tell if
that's a Gilbert thing, but I do think that I've
gotten this before. Of course, there's a racial connotation to
a lot of things that because stereotypes in basketball have
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been earned, right it is. Larry Bird said it best,
like basketball has been a black man's sport, and the
ability to overcome that perception and win three MVPs and
in an era where the big guy has been marginalized,
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I think I think speaks even more highly of it.
I think Jokic won the MVP because of how he
played in the playoffs and the finals last year. I
think that's an indelible image. Just like if Shaye plays great,
they get to the finals, or they win the championship
this year, he'll win it next year, even if he
doesn't have as good as season next year. That's the
reality of we're a year late on almost all of
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this shit. Embiids should have won it the year before
he actually won it. Like that's how it actually works.
We're so delayed on stuff we don't realize it. The
other part to the Shay thing, which is kind of
comical to me, is everybody likes to point out that
that Jokic isn't a particularly good defender. He's not a
good rim protector. Okay, but what are Shae's numbers defensively?
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Do we actually watch Shae? Gildessoux said, he's not hardened,
but he's also not Michael Cooper. He's not climbing into people.
It's a fascinating dynamic though, the fact that the europe
player by and large is dominating the NBA, the form
players dominating the NBA, and the amount of respect that
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they don't get from current and former players is really
really interesting. I think it's about the country of origin.
I don't think it's about I don't think it's about
anything else, because, honestly, like Jiannie has gotten some of
the same. Now, Giannis doesn't shoot the ball well and
his team wasn't good this year, but Giannis has suffered
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some of that as well.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
What else, Uh, The NBA has just given Patrick Beverly
four games for throwing ball.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Fuck you, NBA, You're such a bunch of fucking puss.
You're such a bunch of fucking pussies. Hey, put this
on Instagram. Adam Silver grows some balls. He threw a
basketball into the stands twice. He threw a basketball. If
somebody of a fan threw a ball at a player twice,
he would never be allowed in NBA. You do it once,
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he would never be allowed in an NBA game ever again. Ever,
you have a player who threw a ball into the stands,
not once, but twice during a game. And it wasn't
like he just flipped it. He threw that shit hard.
You're the collectively in New York. You need to grow
some balls. Okay, grow some balls for fucking games four games?
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Are you kidding me? Patrick Beverly's an asshole? Okay, that
shit is asshole thing. It's not the first time he's
been an asshole. This is just the first time he's
been an asshole. That could have hurt a fan and
could have cost you millions of dollars. You guys are pussies.
Fucking grow a pair. Put that shit on Instagram. That's annoying.
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It's the lack of the lack of lower intestinal fortitude,
the lack of balls. Okay. From the Commissioner's Office in
this particular instance is not it's annoying. It's annoying, it's embarrassing.
You have just embarrassed yourself. Congratulates and Adam silver Is
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he's one of those smartest guy in the room. He's
supposedly behind closed doors. You know, he's he's a really
he's a tough dude. Right, This shit is bullshit. Four
games he threw a fucking ball twice into the stands.
I am stunned at how big of a softy those
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people are. That's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Why are we doing this? Why do.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Because we can?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Looks like TN two Sports is gonna lose the NBA, right,
so I think they're gonna have to pay like an
FCC fine out the door here and thanks to Josh Hart.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The next score thirty nine points, the No. Thirty four
are just winners.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
What do you think June right to say, right, here's.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
My boys, Reggie, they're telling you fuck you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Josh Hart honestly is I know people who have been
on his team, and I get it. He's one of
those guys that like that. We create this. You have
to have a guy like that. But like, dude, what
are you doing again? What are you doing. I mean, like, look,
Nick fans, hate to break it to you. Reggie Miller
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lives in your head, rent free. And I've said this
for a long time. The reason that so many have
tried and taken that Knixt job is what you've been
seeing in the playoffs is whoever conquers the invisible monster
of being the Knicks guy who leads them to a championship,
there will be a victory parade. Beyond victory parades, like
New York is only a Yankee town because they've been winning.
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It was a Giants town because they're winning. If the
Knicks win, it's a basketball See they love basket ball.
I'd love bath It's a great sports town. But those
are all the asshole Syracuse fans. Those are all the
asshole Yukon fans. Those are all the asshole old school
Nick fans. And he lives in your head, rent free,
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rent free, you're chanting, fuck you, Reggie. How long ago
was the Reggie Miller play? By the way, that's the
only reason Reggie Miller's in the Hall of Fame. You're like, what,
go look it up. Reggie Miller was never first or
second team All NBA. Ever, do you know, I want
to know what's most amazing about Reggie Miller. Okay, prime
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Reggie Miller. Do you know, in like the prime years
of his life, the prime years of his career came
into the league in nineteen eighty seven, so his prime
was essentially ninety to like ninety six ninety seven. Right.
You realize Reggie Miller wasn't on the Dream Team. And look,
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I love Reggie Miller, and I'd be fast to see
what his style of play would be like now because
he was an elite jump shooter. Elite jump shooter, and
now with the volume of threes that guys take, it
stands the reason. Instead of averaging about twenty a game,
he probably averaged twenty five a game. But he was
not an elite defender. He was not Frankly, he was
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not as good a player as Klay Thompson. Kay, Reggie
Miller owes the fact that he owns New York City
for twelve seconds. That's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
It made everything for Reggie. Yeah, he went to an
NBA Finals, he stayed on one team. Reggie is an
all time great human being. He's a great dude. Okay,
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and he lives rent free, Knicks fans rent free. Huh right,
if you'd if you'd rent free in New York. Fuck amazing.
That steal lives in your head, Knicks fans, So that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
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Speaker 2 (21:18):
Let's get to what the Fox said and now here
a James Jones take on Austin Rivers take that there's
thirty NBA players that can play in the NFL, but
no NFL players that can play in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Let's just get this straight.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Number one.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
They put in a flop role in the NBA because
you guys are soft.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh see, now you guys started.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I started a trend of rest games.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
That's what y'all started.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And now y'all want be extra.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Votes and all that type of stuff to win the
MVP because you only play twenty two games out of
eighty two. Y'all started that, So y'all all start number two.
You said thirty dudes, if you want to say it,
one dude, maybe Anthony Edwards could play safety or something
out of listen to you or something like that. You said,
thirty dudes, no, Number one, put respect on our sports.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That's number one.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
It is not just run and catch the ball and
turn around. It ain't just hand the ball off and
do that. It takes a lot of work at your
craft to do what we do on the football field
and Austin Rivers, if you stepped on the football field, homeboy,
you wouldn't make it. We know that right now because
you barely made it in the NBA, and I'm just
keeping it abuck. Football is not an easy game, dog.
That's why a lot of football players basketball players have
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stepped on the football field. Step right back on the
basketball court, because it's not an easy game. It's a
lot that goes in.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
To the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And you're not.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
About to walk into the NFL and think you're just
about to catch and turn around. Try again, homeboy, do
your research on the NFL. Man, watch some football games,
old games, new games, whatever you want to watch, and
catch up on a man. Because thirty dudes in the
NFL and the NBA.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And the home boy, I like James. I've actually played basketball,
James pretty good, pretty good. Here's the deal. Astin Rivers
just close to being accurate than he is to be inaccurate.
The point actually, James Jones kind of started to making
the point there. It's like, well, you know, Anthony Edwards
might be able to play safety. Well, lou Dort might
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be able to make a Like, right, there's thirty teams,
he's saying, of the fifteen guy roster, there might be
there's probably a guy right thirty maybe a lot And
by the way, I think there's a lot more than
play college basketball they could but NFL guy, and he's right,
there is a lot of technique. And as you guys know,
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I've told you, I've said this before. I have a
good friend who's a GM in the NFL, and every
year he's like, listen every game you go to, if
you see one, send me, send me his name, and
then find out if he played football growing up. He
played football growing up, got a chance if he didn't
play football growing up. It's like James Jones said, too
much to learn. This is Colin Cowhard doubling down on
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his criticism of JJ Reddick wearing his hat backwards on
his podcast with Lebron James.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
If we can't just keep lowering our state or pretty
soon had on backwards becomes flip flops and board shorts
to work. If I have to be the mean guy
that starts the national dialogue on I don't know standard,
so be it. We can't trust our politicians. Have you
seen the three people running for president? Yikes, I won't
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be part of that. As America's honesty broker, sometimes I
talk about stuff you don't want to hear but need
to hear, and I'm sad to say I'm getting a
lot of pushback on this as Lebron and JJ Riddick
blashed out at me, Okay, I'll take it. That's fine,
go ahead, standards or standards. If not me, then who
raises this serious issue. Somebody's got to I've started a
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national dialogue. We'll go back and forth on this. God
bless me and God bless America. Steve Kerr, one of
the smartest people I've ever covered and one of the
smartest people in league history, went from a very very funny, sardonic,
witty broadcaster an hour later he was a general manager.
But JJ Reddick's got a great future. I am to
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turn your life around, you have to first turn your
hat around. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I hope people appreciate the art of what Colin Cowhert says.
Right and by the way, like Colin and I have
been friends for twenty one years, the hat on backwards
is a lot like the don't do meth. It's a staple.
Of course, it's sort of bizarre. Of course, it's old man,
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get off my lawn. Of course it's indefensible, especially when
you see the best and the brightest all wear their
hat backwards. Way worse than wearing your hat backwards is
wearing your hat on top of your hair. That's the
worst look possible. That's the can't be in front of
a room, can't get laid, can't ever take a picture
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of a guy that does not know how to wear
a baseball hat. Okay, on top of your hat, on
top of your hair, with your hair shit, front of
your hair showing. Okay, you look like a dipshit. But
Colin getting the attention of Lebron and the rest of
America with the simple hat on backwards, which has been
a staple of the Herd since back in the ESPN days.
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That is art, my friends, and Colin Cowhard is Picasso
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
What does the fuck say?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Head to our pick of the day.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Okay, sir, le bet is to you call in baby,
it's time for the Pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Pick of the day comes to us, comes to us
from the NBA. Tonight's schemes. There's too Oklahoma City taken
on Dallas or four and a half point favorite, and
Boston taken on Cleveland. I ain't touched that clear. I
don't think Cleveland's very good, but thirteen and a half
does feel like a lot of points. Oklahoma, say, is
a four and a half point favorite against Dallas. Dallas
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not having Maxi Cleeber really helped hurts them. But I
do think that four and a half considering how big
a blowout it was game one, but like game two
is going to be tight, and the officiating was shitty
towards Dallas in the first half. Twenty two free throws.
I like Dallas tonight, plus the four and a half
you meet Dallas and the points, that's the pick of
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the day. All right, that's it for the Doug Gottlieb Show.
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(27:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
What do the bonus? Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app Welcome
in Man. There's so much to get to here, but
I want to start with this. Last night, the Knicks
beat the Indiana Pacers for the second consecutive time to
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take a commanding two games to none lead in the
best of seven n be A Eastern Conference semifinal series,
and Rick Carlisle said basically said, like, hey, all these miscalls,
it's about small market teams. And there's one very very
obvious guy who's responsible for this. Do you know what
it is. It's Tim Donaghe. This is what Tim donaghe
(00:53):
has done. Okay, Tim Doneghie's actions are so reprehensible, so
reprehensible that they need they badly, badly, badly need to
be pointed out as the reason behind it. Because what
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Tim Doneghey allowed us to believe was that the NBA
could predetermine who would win a game. And I thought
the officiating was it was dog shit. I by the way,
the officiating the first half of the thunder Mavericks series
was equally dog shit. Similar type of place shake Guildess.
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Alexander drives to the basket, Daniel Gafford picks him up,
got both hands in the air, shake Guildess. Alexander creates contact,
shoots the basketball and there's a foul on Daniel Gaffert
and Daniel Gafferd's playing perfect defense, without reaching in, without jumping,
without nothing. Okay, But you know, equally, the Mavericks felt
(01:58):
like they were getting bodied, they were getting pushed, they
were getting shoved, and calls were not being made. Matter
of fact, the Thunder had twenty two, twenty two free
throws in the first half of Game one, stock shit officiating.
It's inarguable, inarguable, So I don't but I don't think
(02:21):
it's about big market. I do think it's about just
the olden days of home team gets calls and I look,
the energy in MSG is unbelievable. It's a vicious atmosphere.
Somehow it's okay for them to say FU to Reggie Miller. Right,
(02:41):
It's just it's a nasty, nasty place to go and play.
It's a swamp. It's what, frankly, on many levels, makes
basketball the best. It's the best sport. You don't get
that in football. Sort of, but not really proximity to
the sport. You know, there's no you know, you just
don't get it. Places now are too quiet to take
the dog pound. And back when Candlestick Park used to
(03:04):
chuck batteries at people, right, that used to be the
nastiest atmospheres in the in those sports. But even that
can't compare to Madison Square Garden. You got a bunch
of New York East Coast complete fucking assholes who haven't
won shit in fifty fucking years, and they're taking it
out on the other team. It's a reality of it,
(03:28):
and refs are human beings and they get caught up
in it. But I mean, there's no way, no other
way to say than they got fucking screwed last night,
and they got screwed. I mean game one, you're gonna
call a moving screen at the end of a game
when every screen people move on every fucking screen, crazy crazy,
crazy crazy. I think Rick Carlisle's right, but I think
(03:55):
he's wrong about it being about small market teams.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
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Radio and The iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Let's find out who were what? What isn't maybe annoying
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And now it's your annoying.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
All right, Jay Stu, what's annoying you today?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Rules for roasts? I don't think roast should have rules.
I think by definition celebrity roasts should be everything's in play,
and if not everything's in play, then you shouldn't agree
to be roasted. It was my speculation on Monday that
I think that his bastard child that he had alongside
(04:48):
his current child was off limits because nobody touched on that.
That's good comic fodder. And then we learned today by
comedian Andrew Schultz learned this.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
When Tom checked Jeff Ross.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I think that was one undercent real. Oh yeah, so,
jif so.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think he got cut from the broadcast.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I'll tell you alls, because the reason why I think
it's real is because they told us no jokes about
happy endings with Bob Crafts. Because I had a Bob
Kraft tag. I had that joke about Randy Moss. I
was like, Randy Mars, you made on Super Bowl Sunday.
It's the only people celebrating a happy ending with a priest.
Oh yeah, and and then the tag was and by
and of course Bob Krafts and they're like Tom asked
(05:32):
us not to do anything with the massage ship with
I was like, all right, cool, Like the guy's coming
here for this thing, like whatever, he's not getting roasted.
He's sitting in the fucking stands like.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then Jeff did it.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And then Tom walks up and he goes, yo, cut
that ship out or don't do that again, don't but
think about it like this is the first comic that
goes on a live roast and it's your night. Yeah,
he was ready to shut the whole thing down. That's
an alpha ass move, right, yere.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
No rules for rows stuck. I don't want there being
any parameters.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, especially that one that it's just a weird one, right,
it's a it's a very very strange one that somehow
that was off limits, like of all the things to
be off limits, right, I mean, that's the one you
got too, because there was a comedian who came up
(06:30):
and said that there's a black lesbian comedian who said
that Tom Brady like liking Tom Brady to other black
athletes and like the things that she said were unbelievably offensive,
one the black people and two to Tom Brady. And
yet that's okay, but not to I think the one
(06:52):
part is it is catching strays when he's not on
the dais. That's probably the only defense I would have
of it, right, like, if you're up there, it's open game.
But yeah, I don't know. To me, it signifies that
he didn't Bob Kraft didn't want to go, and he
(07:15):
kind of had to talk him into going. That's what
it feels like to me. So I agree with you
in premise. I mean, I completely agree with you, Like
what are we doing? Like there are some of the
raunchiest nassists And by the way, like one of the
things that we've seen roast before, do you remember when
I think that was a roast of Whoopee Goldberg and
(07:36):
her Ted Danson. Are they still together? It's been her
partner for a long time, like never been married. It's
one of those life partner deals.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Do you remember this well?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I remember Ted Danson in Blackface, right Ted Danson?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That was at a roast, famous Hollywood roast, And the
difference was that wasn't supposed to be publicized that's private
like this is, and it was you know, it's supposed
to be the raunch. So that's where you're absolutely right.
I mean, the only thing I can think of was
Tom begged him to come and said, hey, look, you're
not gonna be part of this deal.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
The you talked about this on the radio show. But
I have I have an angle on this, Okay. Shaquille
O'Neill had Nicola Yokit on inside the NBA last night
right after he won the MVP, and he said this
to him.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Uh, you know, I love you, the best player in
the league. I want to congratulate you, but I want
you to hear from me first. I thought the SGA
should have been the MVP. There's no disrespect to you,
but congratulations and what do you guys have to do
to get back on track versus Minnesota? Thank you shame.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
We don't judge people here, you know, So that's fine opinion.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Joking, Hey all good. I love you, I love your brothers.
One thing we always going to do is keep it
real with each other. Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I think wrong place and time, and there's a
whole conversation out there, but I will say this as
a huge Jokich fan. I wonder why there's so much
disrespect for the guy openly. I wonder how why do
people feel empowered to dismiss this guy or disrespect him.
(09:18):
The Kendrick Perkins saying from a year ago that you
talked about at length that probably led to Embiid winning
the MVP. JJ Reddick literally called him out for racial
comments on the air. That is a racist comment, he
said to Kendrick Perkins as he's talking about Nikola Jokic.
(09:39):
Gilbert Arenas, I don't know if you followed this timeline,
but Gilbert Arena says has said on his podcast, we
should get rid of all the euros. When Draymond Green punched,
I think Nurkic he celebrated it. Draymond Green is doing
the job that the NBA should do, which is get
rid of the euro Euros is code for white players,
(10:03):
white heroes. And then Shacks does this to his face.
I don't know why people are feeling empowered to be
so blatantly disrespectful to now a three time MVP.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I I'd like to think it's not racist from Shack's perspective. Okay,
because look the issue with Shaq is that is about
as every part about it is fucking awful broadcasting. Okay,
play it for me one more time so I can
(10:40):
go through how fucking bad this is because the MVP
part has no place in it. I get what Shaq
was was trying to do, Like you know what I mean.
He's trying to go like, look, I'm not gonna sit
here and be phony about it and say that I
thought you should be MVP, which is I actually kind
of respect. The problem is it's not mere right, It's
(11:02):
not needed there and then like the question is dog
shit kind of Let me let me let me hear
one more time.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Uh, you know, I love you, the best player in
the league. I want to congratulate you, but I want
you to hear from me.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
First.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I thought the SGA should have been the MVP. There's
no disrespect to you, but congratulations And what do you
guys have to do to get back on track versus Minnesota?
Thank you, Shav.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We don't judge people here, you know, so that's fine opinion.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Hey all good. I love you, I love your brothers.
One thing we always going to do is keep it
real with each other. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Uh, what are you going to do to get back
on track. Is actually not a terrible question, not a
terrible question, could have been could have been better, not
a terrible question. The problem is there's like no transition
between the two, right, and Yeah, I just it's it's
such a weird one. The whole thing is weird, especially
(12:06):
because Shaq is like, mister defend the big guy, and
he got a big guy and he's killing the big guy.
You're the best player in the league, but SG, it
doesn't make any fucking sense, right, It's yeah, contradictionary, it's like,
but part of it is some of these guys aren't.
Shaq's actual point is that this is his I guess
(12:28):
his personal criteria is fine, right, His personal criteria is
they finished with the one seed. He averaged thirty a game.
It's he's super young team, they won, he shot whatever
fifty three percent from the field. Like the numbers, Shack's
actually doing the numbers thing and kind of doing the
raw data thing.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Which is fine. It's kind of departure from who he's
always been. He's always been defended. But as far as
why there's so much negativity towards towards Jokic and not
towards Embiid. I do think there's I don't think it
has to do with the skin color. I'd like to think,
(13:13):
especially with basketball players outside of I can't tell if
that's a Gilbert thing, but I do think that I've
gotten this before. Of course, there's a racial connotation to
a lot of things that because stereotypes in basketball have
(13:39):
been earned, right it is. Larry Bird said it best,
like basketball has been a black man's sport, and the
ability to overcome that perception and win three MVPs and
in an era where the big guy has been marginalized,
(13:59):
I think I think speaks even more highly of it.
I think Jokic won the MVP because of how he
played in the playoffs and the finals last year. I
think that's an indelible image. Just like if Shaye plays great,
they get to the finals, or they win the championship
this year, he'll win it next year, even if he
doesn't have as good as season next year. That's the
reality of we're a year late on almost all of
(14:22):
this shit. Embiids should have won it the year before
he actually won it. Like that's how it actually works.
We're so delayed on stuff we don't realize it. The
other part to the Shay thing, which is kind of
comical to me, is everybody likes to point out that
that Jokic isn't a particularly good defender. He's not a
good rim protector. Okay, but what are Shae's numbers defensively?
(14:48):
Do we actually watch Shae? Gildessoux said, he's not hardened,
but he's also not Michael Cooper. He's not climbing into people.
It's a fascinating dynamic though, the fact that the europe
player by and large is dominating the NBA, the form
players dominating the NBA, and the amount of respect that
(15:08):
they don't get from current and former players is really
really interesting. I think it's about the country of origin.
I don't think it's about I don't think it's about
anything else, because, honestly, like Jiannie has gotten some of
the same. Now, Giannis doesn't shoot the ball well and
his team wasn't good this year, but Giannis has suffered
(15:31):
some of that as well.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
What else, Uh, The NBA has just given Patrick Beverly
four games for throwing ball.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Fuck you, NBA, You're such a bunch of fucking puss.
You're such a bunch of fucking pussies. Hey, put this
on Instagram. Adam Silver grows some balls. He threw a
basketball into the stands twice. He threw a basketball. If
somebody of a fan threw a ball at a player twice,
he would never be allowed in NBA. You do it once,
(16:01):
he would never be allowed in an NBA game ever again. Ever,
you have a player who threw a ball into the stands,
not once, but twice during a game. And it wasn't
like he just flipped it. He threw that shit hard.
You're the collectively in New York. You need to grow
some balls. Okay, grow some balls for fucking games four games?
(16:28):
Are you kidding me? Patrick Beverly's an asshole? Okay, that
shit is asshole thing. It's not the first time he's
been an asshole. This is just the first time he's
been an asshole. That could have hurt a fan and
could have cost you millions of dollars. You guys are pussies.
Fucking grow a pair. Put that shit on Instagram. That's annoying.
(16:50):
It's the lack of the lack of lower intestinal fortitude,
the lack of balls. Okay. From the Commissioner's Office in
this particular instance is not it's annoying. It's annoying, it's embarrassing.
You have just embarrassed yourself. Congratulates and Adam silver Is
(17:11):
he's one of those smartest guy in the room. He's
supposedly behind closed doors. You know, he's he's a really
he's a tough dude. Right, This shit is bullshit. Four
games he threw a fucking ball twice into the stands.
I am stunned at how big of a softy those
(17:31):
people are. That's fucking annoying.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Why are we doing this? Why do.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Because we can?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Looks like TN two Sports is gonna lose the NBA, right,
so I think they're gonna have to pay like an
FCC fine out the door here and thanks to Josh Hart.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The next score thirty nine points, the No. Thirty four
are just winners.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
What do you think June right to say, right, here's.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
My boys, Reggie, they're telling you fuck you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Josh Hart honestly is I know people who have been
on his team, and I get it. He's one of
those guys that like that. We create this. You have
to have a guy like that. But like, dude, what
are you doing again? What are you doing. I mean, like, look,
Nick fans, hate to break it to you. Reggie Miller
(18:32):
lives in your head, rent free. And I've said this
for a long time. The reason that so many have
tried and taken that Knixt job is what you've been
seeing in the playoffs is whoever conquers the invisible monster
of being the Knicks guy who leads them to a championship,
there will be a victory parade. Beyond victory parades, like
New York is only a Yankee town because they've been winning.
(18:54):
It was a Giants town because they're winning. If the
Knicks win, it's a basketball See they love basket ball.
I'd love bath It's a great sports town. But those
are all the asshole Syracuse fans. Those are all the
asshole Yukon fans. Those are all the asshole old school
Nick fans. And he lives in your head, rent free,
(19:15):
rent free, you're chanting, fuck you, Reggie. How long ago
was the Reggie Miller play? By the way, that's the
only reason Reggie Miller's in the Hall of Fame. You're like, what,
go look it up. Reggie Miller was never first or
second team All NBA. Ever, do you know, I want
to know what's most amazing about Reggie Miller. Okay, prime
(19:37):
Reggie Miller. Do you know, in like the prime years
of his life, the prime years of his career came
into the league in nineteen eighty seven, so his prime
was essentially ninety to like ninety six ninety seven. Right.
You realize Reggie Miller wasn't on the Dream Team. And look,
(19:58):
I love Reggie Miller, and I'd be fast to see
what his style of play would be like now because
he was an elite jump shooter. Elite jump shooter, and
now with the volume of threes that guys take, it
stands the reason. Instead of averaging about twenty a game,
he probably averaged twenty five a game. But he was
not an elite defender. He was not Frankly, he was
(20:19):
not as good a player as Klay Thompson. Kay, Reggie
Miller owes the fact that he owns New York City
for twelve seconds. That's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
It made everything for Reggie. Yeah, he went to an
NBA Finals, he stayed on one team. Reggie is an
all time great human being. He's a great dude. Okay,
(20:44):
and he lives rent free, Knicks fans rent free. Huh right,
if you'd if you'd rent free in New York. Fuck amazing.
That steal lives in your head, Knicks fans, So that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Let's get to what the Fox said and now here
a James Jones take on Austin Rivers take that there's
thirty NBA players that can play in the NFL, but
no NFL players that can play in the NBA.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Let's just get this straight.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Number one.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
They put in a flop role in the NBA because
you guys are soft.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Oh see, now you guys started.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
I started a trend of rest games.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
That's what y'all started.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And now y'all want be extra.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Votes and all that type of stuff to win the
MVP because you only play twenty two games out of
eighty two. Y'all started that, So y'all all start number two.
You said thirty dudes, if you want to say it,
one dude, maybe Anthony Edwards could play safety or something
out of listen to you or something like that. You said,
thirty dudes, no, Number one, put respect on our sports.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That's number one.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
It is not just run and catch the ball and
turn around. It ain't just hand the ball off and
do that. It takes a lot of work at your
craft to do what we do on the football field
and Austin Rivers, if you stepped on the football field, homeboy,
you wouldn't make it. We know that right now because
you barely made it in the NBA, and I'm just
keeping it abuck. Football is not an easy game, dog.
That's why a lot of football players basketball players have
(22:28):
stepped on the football field. Step right back on the
basketball court, because it's not an easy game. It's a
lot that goes in.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
To the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
And you're not.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
About to walk into the NFL and think you're just
about to catch and turn around. Try again, homeboy, do
your research on the NFL. Man, watch some football games,
old games, new games, whatever you want to watch, and
catch up on a man. Because thirty dudes in the
NFL and the NBA.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And the home boy, I like James. I've actually played basketball,
James pretty good, pretty good. Here's the deal. Astin Rivers
just close to being accurate than he is to be inaccurate.
The point actually, James Jones kind of started to making
the point there. It's like, well, you know, Anthony Edwards
might be able to play safety. Well, lou Dort might
(23:11):
be able to make a Like, right, there's thirty teams,
he's saying, of the fifteen guy roster, there might be
there's probably a guy right thirty maybe a lot And
by the way, I think there's a lot more than
play college basketball they could but NFL guy, and he's right,
there is a lot of technique. And as you guys know,
(23:31):
I've told you, I've said this before. I have a
good friend who's a GM in the NFL, and every
year he's like, listen every game you go to, if
you see one, send me, send me his name, and
then find out if he played football growing up. He
played football growing up, got a chance if he didn't
play football growing up. It's like James Jones said, too
much to learn. This is Colin Cowhard doubling down on
(23:53):
his criticism of JJ Reddick wearing his hat backwards on
his podcast with Lebron James.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
If we can't just keep lowering our state or pretty
soon had on backwards becomes flip flops and board shorts
to work. If I have to be the mean guy
that starts the national dialogue on I don't know standard,
so be it. We can't trust our politicians. Have you
seen the three people running for president? Yikes, I won't
(24:19):
be part of that. As America's honesty broker, sometimes I
talk about stuff you don't want to hear but need
to hear, and I'm sad to say I'm getting a
lot of pushback on this as Lebron and JJ Riddick
blashed out at me, Okay, I'll take it. That's fine,
go ahead, standards or standards. If not me, then who
raises this serious issue. Somebody's got to I've started a
(24:42):
national dialogue. We'll go back and forth on this. God
bless me and God bless America. Steve Kerr, one of
the smartest people I've ever covered and one of the
smartest people in league history, went from a very very funny, sardonic,
witty broadcaster an hour later he was a general manager.
But JJ Reddick's got a great future. I am to
(25:03):
turn your life around, you have to first turn your
hat around. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
I hope people appreciate the art of what Colin Cowhert says.
Right and by the way, like Colin and I have
been friends for twenty one years, the hat on backwards
is a lot like the don't do meth. It's a staple.
Of course, it's sort of bizarre. Of course, it's old man,
(25:33):
get off my lawn. Of course it's indefensible, especially when
you see the best and the brightest all wear their
hat backwards. Way worse than wearing your hat backwards is
wearing your hat on top of your hair. That's the
worst look possible. That's the can't be in front of
a room, can't get laid, can't ever take a picture
(25:53):
of a guy that does not know how to wear
a baseball hat. Okay, on top of your hat, on
top of your hair, with your hair shit, front of
your hair showing. Okay, you look like a dipshit. But
Colin getting the attention of Lebron and the rest of
America with the simple hat on backwards, which has been
a staple of the Herd since back in the ESPN days.
(26:17):
That is art, my friends, and Colin Cowhard is Picasso
that's what the Fox said.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
What does the fuck say?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Head to our pick of the day.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Okay, sir, le bet is to you call in baby,
it's time for the Pick of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Pick of the day comes to us, comes to us
from the NBA. Tonight's schemes. There's too Oklahoma City taken
on Dallas or four and a half point favorite, and
Boston taken on Cleveland. I ain't touched that clear. I
don't think Cleveland's very good, but thirteen and a half
does feel like a lot of points. Oklahoma, say, is
a four and a half point favorite against Dallas. Dallas
(26:57):
not having Maxi Cleeber really helped hurts them. But I
do think that four and a half considering how big
a blowout it was game one, but like game two
is going to be tight, and the officiating was shitty
towards Dallas in the first half. Twenty two free throws.
I like Dallas tonight, plus the four and a half
you meet Dallas and the points, that's the pick of
(27:18):
the day. All right, that's it for the Doug Gottlieb Show.
You're on Fox Sports Radio, make sure be sure, I'll
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