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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's a Monday. Thank you so much for joining us,
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out to think of those that gave the ultimate sacrifice
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Speaker 2 (00:50):
We are going to debut a new segment here on
The Doug Gottlieb Show in about twenty minutes, and that
new segment is called who Said What About Caitlin Clark
because because a lot of people continue to talk about
Caitlin Clark all day. As the Fever got their first
win of the season on Friday against the LA Sparks.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, you know, I really wanted to go to that game.
So originally they were supposed to play a long Beach
at the Pyramid, and the tickets just to get your
foot in the door was like three hundred dollars. You know,
I was talking to Brie here Iowa Sam about going,
and then they moved the game, and obviously it's a
holiday weekend, so Bree was scheduled and all of this
was last minute, and then Iowa Sam did go, but
by the time, you know, I nobody wanted to go
(01:34):
with me at this point anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Iowa Sam off on this Memorial Day because of the
in depth reporting that he did do at the Sparks
Fever game. And now this may not be fair because
Iowa Sam is not here, but I believe that there
were a total of eight tweets. One of those included
(01:56):
a picture with Sam and market Mintina.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I was going to say that the report are you're
talking about the pictures?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, actually, I take this back. I think there were
six tweets, including that one seven seven that's I doubled
up on one seven tweets from Iowa Sam Jason Stewart
in your media career, which is spanned a quarter of
a century, does that suffice to you meet like covering
the game the seven the seven tweets and taking a
(02:27):
picture with Mark Medina of covering an event.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You're asking me if it justifies the credential? Yes, I
think I think the sparks would be like, Okay, seven
tweets is enough, But then the sparks would go to
how many followers he has, and I think they might
be like, I don't know if he's getting the second credential.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I will.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I want to give the behind the scenes story though. Yes,
Iowa Sam sends a group text to Doug, which is
funny me and Dan saying I think I just saw
Mark Medina. He's in the other room. I will try
to confirm. I honestly couldn't breathe. I held my breath
until he could get back to us and say that
(03:05):
he did indeed run into Mark Mendena. So and then
he tweeted about it.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So here's the other thing on the on the on
the text and again, this is not fair because Sam.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Is not it is fair.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Is fair?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
He sent the picture with Medina, and Jason's response was
so snarky, like thanks so much for clearing that up,
something like along those lines where he knew he was
being completely sarcastic.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Did you probably made him cry? So Caitlin Clark's game.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So yeah, So like I think, like ioa, Sam is
kind of like getting some heat. So you know what
I tried to do in the group text. I try
to soften the blow, but I'm like, hey man, remember
no cheering in the press box, you know, like kind
of like you know, like you know, like, yeah, have
a good time. And he responds, Dan, I know the
media rules. Like so he totally overlooked his sarcasm and
(03:58):
then thought that I was actually giving him a tip
or like or not even a tip, but like a
direct order of do not sacrifice our media criticals or.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Mocking him or something. Oh you definitely both made him cry.
He shut it to here with Marktina by the crypto.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
By the way, if Iowa Sam comes on this program
and talks, which by the way, would have been great.
We love having Chris Preffett here. Do not get me wrong,
but like the first day you're back is usually like
when he comes back on Tuesday, it's so old news,
like it happened four days ago. It would be great
to have heard his experience, but we did not get that.
(04:34):
But a in a world where credentials are are handed
out to any website or blog, but for some reason,
over the air broadcast where by the way, you can
listen to us on our hundreds of affiliates across the country,
and if you're out of the country, you could still
listen to us on the the you know, iHeartRadio app.
So literally we're worldwide. If we spend ten minutes talking
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about our experience at a game or what we saw
and what that's, that to me fulfills the credential, just
because my duties at that point aren't maybe as immediate
as as a newspaper would be, or as a ten
o'clock newscast, and sometimes actually, Manzi, they're more immediate when
you're like, hey, can you come on Fox Sports Radio
and talk about this right after the game? That's we're live,
(05:18):
like we are always live, and so I feel like
that sort of like a credential doesn't mean you have
to sit there and write a you know, a ten
paragraph article on what just happened that night. There are
a lot of different ways we.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Bring us in. Yes, yeah, absolutely, we're trying to bring
us in and I agree with you real quick. Mark
Medino was on my show Saturday with Steve Hartman since
you've plugged your show on Sunday. Yes, on Saturday show,
I did ask him about being at Kaitlyn Clark's game.
Remember she was cold most of the game and then
at the end hit big threes one to put them
up and then want to secure it. He said he's
(05:51):
never heard the crowd roar the way they did for
Kaitlin Clark in that moment compared to a Clippers game.
He's like, no Clippers game I've ever heard a roar
the way I heard the roar at Crypto last night.
Isn't that sad?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean they're basically going to play forty one home games, right,
I mean because every like for the people that are
that are going there, like there's just a large contingent
of people that are there to see Caitlyn Clark. Yep
hasn't helped as much, but they didn't get that first
win on Friday, But Anyway, our new segment coming up
in now about fifteen minutes. Who said, what about Caitlyn Clark?
(06:27):
It is Monday, it is just past four o'clock Eastern time.
It's time for love and hate.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
What did you love?
Speaker 6 (06:33):
God?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
I love you? And what did you hate? These player?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Hay Is, Jason Stewart, what did you love from this
past weekend?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I'm just gonna pick it up where you left off there, Dan,
I loved those two shots at Monty just referenced. So
I watched the whole Kaitlyn Clark game and then at
the end they needed buckets from her and they got
buckets from her. And it's not that you just scored,
it's the way she did it. She did it with
those like logo threes that we've that we have come
(07:08):
to love, and with Moxie and a fist bump, and like,
to me, that's what I tune in for, Like I
want to see that like her just being an average
WNBA player is probably not going to cut it for
most of us. But when I tune in to see her,
I want to see those buckets.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
That makes sense, not Moxie Bilanos. What did you love
from this weekend?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Well, What I love from this weekend, honestly, is the
MAVs killing it. Because I said about a month ago
they would be winning the whole thing, and so I'm
just happy that they're proving me right. I said this
about four weeks ago, they're gonna win the whole thing.
So watching them, I'm just like, I was right. I
was right, Go MAVs.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
What was the context of that, like, you were just well.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, because Steve Hartman asked me to go on air,
and after they basically, you know, beat my Clippers, I
was like, no, MAVs, look good. They're gonna win the
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
This wasn't your video when you around to twenty eight
people at Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Radio, it's not that. No, this is not that where
I picked the Clippers. No, no, different, that's different.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I was number twenty seven of the twenty eight on that.
People were getting their picks two days before. They're like, yeah,
I did the Manzi thing, you know, Rich Davis, you
know talking Yeah. No, I made the picture with Monty
on Wednesday, and then on Friday, Monty's like I need
your NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Pick, Chris, were you in it or were you not?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Well?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I did, Yeah, Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I was, I was, and I just picked Bucks. Yeah,
and just.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
So you know, you didn't come out earlier in the
video because nobody else said Bucks. Do you not see
that there's rhyme or reason to my videos. I try
to keep all the same answers together. You were the
only one that set the Bucks with your banana.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
In your hand. And then I see a tweet that
the more ripe the banana is, or the longer it is,
the worse it is for you. It's totally ruined my weekend.
But that's my hate later, Yeah it does, Yes, christ.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
This was a huge weekend for racing, both good and bad.
But I'm going to start with my favorite thing in
that morning, which was Monaco. Formula one's been having its
moment for a while. My sister is into it, and
this is the biggest race of the year. Me and
our producer Ian Roddy was here. We were all over
Monaco this morning. That morning. On Sunday, Charles Leclerk, theone
who went, wins Monaco, native of the very small country.
(09:26):
Very big win for him and just something he's been
chasing for a very long time in an age either
dominated first by Lewis Hamilton or Max for Stoppin. So
good to see the native boy get a win in
his city, in his country.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I have a sense, Automobiles, that won't be the first
time we hear that in this segment. You know what
I loved, what I loved this weekend. I think we
can all we can all appreciate this, even if Manzi
is a vegetarian. Yes, there was a spot on Yelp
that I looked up and looked really good, good and
(10:01):
was even better than the pictures advertised. It was a
hot chicken place in Burbank in Burbank and went there
and lived up to all of the expectation of flavor
of We even got some nuggets and we got some
you know, bone in pieces. We got a half chicken
(10:22):
and it was delicious. So to have that not like
be a spot where you go. I'm a spot guy,
Like I want to find a spot and then I'll
just keep going there. I'm not gonna let's try a
bunch of different places. So when you actually hit on
a place that you like to go and that there
is something good, that's what I love this past weekend.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Are you purposely not giving out the name are you
securing some kind of an endorsement deal before you actually
say the name on.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The air, you know what they deserve it. It was
the humble Bee. That's what it was called. It was
very very good. Well they don't have anything for you
on the menu at all. Well, yeah they do, Actually
they do have a side.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yes, that's all I need. Happy.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I was a big, big fan. It took their time
in doing doing the work. Yeah, it was uh yeah,
it was very good. I enjoyed it. O. Wait, sorry,
it was the humble Bird. Maybe I should get it right,
the humble Bird. I wonder what Bee had to do
with any of that. There is there is it was.
There was a different spot in Northridge, that's all. And
the colors were black and yellow, so that's why. So
(11:27):
the humble bird gotcha, the humble Bird. That's what I loved,
all right, Kevin Wire, Do you have something that you
loved this weekend?
Speaker 8 (11:33):
Something that I love this weekend? Well, the Dodgers took
away whatever joy I had this weekend, losing to a
last place team that had lost twelve of their previous
fifteen games. But looking at the right side, I was
here a lot and actually I like being here, so
all right, yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Right, I like that. All right, Well, let's get to
the hates of the week. Kevin may have still the
thunder of one. Jason Stewart, Jason Stewart, what did you hate? No?
I love that.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
In our love portion, Kevin gave away my hate, which
is the Dodgers losing five in a row. And just
to put a button on it, Montsi already mentioned it,
but over twenty eight with runners in scoring position. This
team has been throughout the Freedman years, throughout the Freedman administration,
(12:27):
has not been a clutch team. They've always played very
good from ahead. They win a lot of games in
the regular season. They beat teams are supposed to beat.
Then it gets to crunch time in October and things
start to shrivel up because they're not clutch. And even
the even Shoho Tani's not changing that. So it's frustrating.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It is, it really is, And even though we're used
to it, it doesn't make it any easier.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The same old song and dance. It's just me again.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
They knocked me out of the survivor pool. So my
inks are the Dodgers at an all time high and
even just tried to text me about the survivor poblem like,
I'm not really in the mood to talk about it
because that was kind of rude. I ended up knocking
me out. Jason also loves to tell me how all
of his teams are still alive in these pools when
I'm eliminated, and it's just a constant reminder of how
bad I am in picking teams and games. That's why
(13:17):
I you know, I'd never be a good gambler. I'd
never be a Jared Smith. Yeah, I'd never be able
to do that, you know. That's just we just have
to do.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
The bets he does because he's been on a rolls. Yes,
he's been on a roll.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Would you hate this weekend?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Me?
Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Let me tell you guys what happened to me last night.
So we're at a stop light in a city, not LA,
but a city near LA, and there's a green light,
and the car in front of us is not moving,
neither is the car next to me on either side.
On the car turning left, not the two lanes going straight,
just the full green light. We're honking, there's no movement.
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Then we see a couple of people congregate across the
street at the corner and things start to look weird,
and I start to get nervous, like I just am like,
something is happening, but I can't figure out what it is. Finally,
I decided to call nine one one because I was like,
something is going on an entire green light. Nobody is
moving yet nothing seems to be happening, but you know,
something weird. I call nine one one and I'm like,
(14:17):
I'm on this street, in this street. Something is happening,
but I don't know what. And she's like, yeah, we
got a call that there's a street takeover, so just
be careful. So they took over the street and they
started doing what are the eight the circles like around people?
What donuts? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I was hungry.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I was on my way to have a dinner in
a cocktail and you do this. I was so annoyed.
Everybody got out of their car. They all got right
up close. They were so close to this car that
was doing what did you say? Donuts?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Donuts?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
And I was like, how are you not afraid that
you are gonna be hit? That's how close these people were.
Everybody's recording this I was so annoyed. There was a
guy behind this got out of his car. I wanted
us to move the car so he could get his
car in there, and I was like, dude, there's nowhere
for you to go. What are you talking about? Anyway,
what felt like eternity was rarely, just like ten minutes,
but still I was so annoyed. I can't believe I
(15:08):
was a part of a street takeover.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So that's illegal. And do the cops come?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, they come, But there was so much already, so
much built up traffic right that they're at the back
unless they were coming on motorcycles, which they didn't. So
the lights showed up and then everybody left and everyone
scattered and nothing happened.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Let it leads me to my hate because I was
at a street takeover the other night and these this
couple ahead of me would not move their car even
though everybody else was getting out of their cars. I'm like, hey,
I'm trying to get through here, and this couple would
not do it. This guy's like, nah, dude, you're not
going to be able to get through. Thought it was
complete bs. Really no, no, that's no, that's what happened
(15:45):
to you some guy went up to Monsis. Wow, I
did not like. Yeah, me and the street with the
child seat in the back seat.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I just just months.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, that would be that?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What really?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, put Brody to bed. I'm going to a street
takeover down in Cerritos.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
That I was wondering. You've always said your favorite movie
of all Thomas Tokyo Drift. You have a thing about street.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Rac Yes, goodness, it was awful. You guys, awful and
annoying more than anything.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I'll give you my quick hate and then profet you're
going up on the heels of not being able to
take part in the street takeover. I hate that the
Pacers blue Game three, and I hate that it was
Drew Holiday that made them do it because it's another
reminder as a Bucks fan and how the Damian Lillard
trade didn't work out, at least work out this year.
And if it helps Boston win a title because they
(16:39):
have Drew Holiday, listen, Milwaukee wasn't gonna win a title
if Drew Holiday was on that roster, but he had
to be the one that left and had to go,
and Boston is now reaping the benefits of Milwaukee's urgency
to try to bring in another superstar with Giannis, and
it just it really burns me because he is such
a good He's a great player, yeah, on both ends.
(17:02):
And so the three point play, the steal, all of
that happening, and then now that series is going to
be over, So who really cares about tonight's Game four?
To be honest with you, I hated that from this weekend.
Chris Purfett. I hate weather. I hate weather because it
seems like we've been having gloomy weather in California. Somehow
that got transported over to North Carolina to Indiana and
(17:26):
shortened two races. Me and Steve Hartman bringing up his
name again here we're geeking out all day about the
Indy five hundred. We both enjoy IndyCar and instead it
gets a rain short and they end up having the
race about one hundred and one laps versus the two hundred.
But it's still it's it's annoying, And what I hate
about it is that NBC decided to go to last
year's race to fill the time, which is just beyond confusing.
(17:51):
If you're someone coming in from the cold to trying
to watch this, You're like, Hey, what's going on here
Joseph Nugard and I guess he's gonna win. The spoilers
he won again this year, but still it's like, this
isn't the race I came to watch. This is last year's.
It's tough because you have nothing to put in that way, Well,
you have nothing you can't fill. This happened on Fox
probably about a decade ago, and people were tweeting that
(18:12):
Jimmy Johnson won because didn't realize it was the actual
race in the year before. You really have to have
that bug on the screen to tell you that this
is from a year ago.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
And speaking of that, the Coca Cola six hundred also
got races shortened to like this was the day I
was loving Monaco to Indy Car to the Coca Cola
six hundred and just two of those races completely short.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, I had more time to go out and do donuts, right,
you know, I'll just go, yeah, take over a couple
of streets there. It is love and hate on the
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, I really did hate it. But it took a
lot of work, Like it required fifteen different cars to
pull this off and block traffic so it sounds like
a whole Yes, No, it was incredible. I just I
was like, I can't believe how many people actually plan
this out and we're like, all right, you're gonna be here,
You're gonna be here, to be right here all at
the same time and not let anyone drive Like Wow,
(19:05):
So were.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
All the cars like ducked up, like like the spoilers
and stuff ohel Reunion.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It did not look like that at all.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
No, they looked they were both like it was two
cars and they were black, dark looking cars. It was
at night, but nothing flashy. They were loud, but nothing
flashy visually or anything like that. Really.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
I was like, it's just a regular car street takeover
one of the this.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
This I don't think happens in every city in America.
I don't think very la sort of thing. Yeah, she's
Monty Belaanios. I'm Dan Byer. We are navigating through traffic
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Thanks to Chris Purfett, Kevin Wyer, and Jason Stewart for
their input.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
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Speaker 2 (20:03):
Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Belanos,
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today. Jason Stewart's here,
Chris Burfett, Kevin Wyre. Kevin's gonna give us an update,
and what's happening busy day and baseball on this Memorial Day,
we ask again you take time out to remember those
that we've lost gave the ultimate sacrifice for us, and
(20:24):
it is a it is a heavy, heavy day as
well with the news of the passing of Bill Walton.
So if you want to hear Rick Buker's thoughts, our FSR,
NBA Insider, all of us sharing our own stories, we
did that a little bit earlier in the show. You
can always go to Fox Sports Radio dot com and
click on podcast and find the Doug Gottlieb Show, and
that's where you can hear our thoughts. Is there showing
(20:44):
Bill Walton right now on ESPN doing yes, the games
that he did with Dave Pash, Yes in the Pac
twelve and all the different stuff. Yes, a very very
tough day for so many who loved Bill Walton as
he passed away at the age of seventy one. We
are going to debut a brand new segment right now
(21:05):
on Fox Sports Radio. It's a soft launch, and by that, Manzi,
we don't have imaging yet because we don't know if
it's gonna work. But you know, like our restaurants have
soft launches coming here on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Our big
opening day is Friday, but we want to make sure
that everything is working well. So because you and I
are here on a Monday, on a holiday, I figured
it's the perfect time to soft launch a segment. We're
(21:28):
gonna call who said what about Caitlin Clark? Because everybody
seems to talk about Caitlin Clark all day every day. Now. Now,
the first the first cut is Becky Hammond, the head
coach of the Las Vegas Aces who beat Caitlin Clark
and the Fever on Saturday night. But it was more
a clarification on comments that she had made during a
(21:49):
shoot around prior to their game, with Asia Wilson by
her side, saying like nobody here is hating on Caitlin Clark.
She was asked a little bit more to clarify her response.
This is what Becky Hammond had to say, on Saturday Night. Well,
I think it's construed as some of our minority black
and brown women are hating on her because.
Speaker 7 (22:08):
She's white, and that is not the case.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Let's say Caitlin out of the picture. What I think
is up saying this is not about Kaitlyn.
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Kaitlyn giving her her flowers.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
She's tone stuff that no man or woman, black or
white has ever.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Done in college basketball.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Give that moment her flowers.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
But what it does is it has highlighted how black
and brown greatness has not been celebrated or valued as much.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
That's what I was talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
So that was Becky Hammond's point of view. And I
don't think that you know, in her words to say
that it's black and brown players who are being critical.
I think a lot of people were being critical from
all facets of the world, not even in the WNBA,
but obviously just in the regular world as well. Her
point about the highlights of players, this is the part
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that maybe other players weren't getting as much attention. One
of the arguments that we had in college in talking
about Katelyn Clark, especially in the latter part of her career,
was this talk about is she the greatest of all time,
and then the conversation was like, well no, and then
people would bring up comparisons. They would say, well, Brianna
Stewart's the greatest of all time and Brandon Stewart's white.
Branda Stewart came into the NBA he WNBA in my mind,
(23:20):
with a little fanfare. For as dominant of a player
as she was and as great of a player as
she was, it wasn't something that reached out to all
different aspects of this sporting world like Caitlin Clark has
since she started ragning threes her freshman season in Iowa.
So she is that comment, She is that meteor. We
(23:40):
hadn't seen this in the women's game before. We had
seen post players dominate. Asia Wilson had twenty nine points
and fifteen rebounds against the Fever on Saturday night, completely
kicked the crap out of Indiana. But we've also seen
that before, and for as great as she is, I
think Caitlin Clark brought something to the game that we
had never seen seen before and that's why it's taken
(24:02):
off like it has. And maybe some of it is unfair,
but I just don't. It's it's why Steph Curry took
off in the NBA and completely changing the game. Now
you just have to wonder, is this going to change
the WNBA's game is going to move away from players
who are getting twenty nine points and fifteen rebounds or
Branna Stewart dominating in the post. That's what now you
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wonder if there's going to be a Kitlyn Clark effect
moving on. I'm glad Becky Hammond cleared, you know, at
least made it clear on what she was talking about
that I just I don't think that that we've ignored
other players and focusing on Kate and Clark just because
she's white.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I agree with you, there's a lot of factors as
to why she has been like this lightning in a bottle.
As you say, I I'm not gonna lie. I didn't
watch a lot of WNBA, but I did. I actually
was at the Sparks Mercury game when Diana ta Rossi
broke the scoring record.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I was there.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I've been to several, like like five Sparks games over
the course of my life. I went to the Vegas
Aces game last year. Asian Wilson is a beast. I
swear it looked like she was fixing her eyelash and
then she blocked a girl like seconds later. It was unbelievable.
A beast. But her style of play, Kaitlyn Clark's is
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way different than what we've watched over the years in
the WNBA. I always thought the WNBA was a little
bit boring. It's a lot of fundamental basketball, a lot
of layups, a lot of you know what I'm saying,
Like the fundamental basketball is how the women tend to play.
They are not as explosive as the NBA, And so
seeing Kaitlyn Clark be this flashy player like a Steph
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Curry was very appealing. It drew in a lot of
people and also social media because nowadays you can see
what when you're like, oh, look at this Kaylyn Clark,
you're like, who is that? Just watch watch your shoot
from the logo, and then you can have this whole
highlight reel of her shooting ridiculous threes. All of a sudden,
you're like, I want to see this girl. Unfortunately, for
Breonna Stewart, for Diana Tarassi, all of these other players,
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Candice Parker, who was also amazing, the videos weren't easily
accessible to watch, but now you know what I'm saying,
Like we can watch a highlight reel of Kaitlin Clark
and it is exciting, very exciting. The highlight reels before
weren't as flashy and not easily accessible.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes, And you know, it's funny because TV ratings as
well are brought up, and I understand that TAV ratings
in the past, we were different because of how we
now consume our sports, But there were TV WNBA games
that were getting two million viewers in the late nineties
when the WNBA was, you know, at its advent. There's
so there's there's some of that as well. Like we
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talked about like the most recent history with players, but
when you go back to the launch of it, and
you remember the Houston comment teams that were dominant in
the NBA with Cynthia Cooper and Cheryl Swoops, and I
know Swoops, you know, has kind of gotten into this
with some media stuff that she's done. But you know,
like there have been great players that have carried a
towards Lisa Leslie. I think many people feels maybe the
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great player to ever play in the w NBA. And
for what she's done, there there there are names out there.
There are great, great players, some for some reason carry
a little bit more weight than others. And I think
Katelan Clark is just so different by the way, to
the point of people are pointing out that Diana Tarassi
was correct in saying that you know, she's going to
learn real quick, and I think she is, and I
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think now there there is some truth to that, and
it's going to be up to Kaitlin Clark in the
off season to figure out a way. All right, how
do I how do I get better? How how am
I going to be able to sustain in a w
NBA when there are players who are quicker, you know,
are just as quick, more physical. You're going to have
to figure that out as well if you're a professional.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Caitlin Clark, Yeah, and her coach also has to let
her play her way, Like there's a reason why you
head back to back number one overall picks. You are
not a good team. It's not like Caitlyn coming in
there and being Kaitlyn is disrupting anything. So don't change
her style. Figure out how you can make her style
work with your team. That's like Jason Stewart said, like
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her two shots against the sparks were not just because
they put them up and they won the game. It
was because of the style of the shot. Everything you
wanted to see Caitlin do, she did it, and she
did it when it mattered the most. In the fourth quarter,
at the end of the game, we were talking about
Anthony Edwards his layup in the last five minutes against
the Maps. It's like, that's not exciting, we don't care
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about that. In fact, the exact opposite with Kaitlyn Clark.
Literally what you go to see is what she did
when it mattered the most, and so you have to
I think that the Fever need to figure out a
way to let her be Caitlin, and they haven't done that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's I think. I think that's that's that's fair. I
think it's also a little unfair where there is work
that she needs to do, sure like, like there is
she she does. She does not look this polished in
the w NBA game, not at all, because the defenses
are better, players are better, and there may be that
you know, stepped up sort of thing to you're amped up,
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you're ready to play the Indiana Fever now. But there
are times where I do think that she not that
she looks overmatched, but that it just isn't as easy
as it obviously was in.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
College, of course, and that has to do with her
surrounding teammates like Iowa seemed like a well oiled machine
by her senior year. This is not what the Fever
look like. And when they play the Liberty, when they
play the Aces, they look like well oiled.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
But ninety seven ninety nine percent of the competition that
she played against aren't going on to play another level
of basketball, you know, and this is these are all
professional women playing in the WNBA. Jason Stewart, our executive producer.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And just in the format of the segment here. A
couple of weeks back, Colin cow Heard on This network
opened his show with Caitlin Quark, which is that's impressive
on to itself, but he said it was after I
think she was owed to that the WNBA needed or
needs to do something to make it a little less
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hard to schedule against worse opponents, or they need to
do something because this needs to work. And I really
do agree with that last part. It needs to work
for the WNBA. She just can't be an average to
above average player. It's going to turn that the people
that weren't watching it are just going to continue to
go on and find other things. But I think that
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was a little bit patronizing to say that the WNBA
needs to like manipulate the schedule and make it easier
on her. I have a question for both of you.
Do you think that there was a memo that went
out maybe on Friday from the WNBA to teams, like
we need to start reversing this narrative of players complaining
about Caitlin And do you think that maybe there's kind
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of like a gag order of saying negative things about
Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I don't think so either, And the.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Reason why is because I think two reasons. Number One,
I think that that we would have heard about that memo.
There's no way that that state is private. Number Two,
in our segment of who said what about Kaitlyn Clark,
this wasn't directly at Caitlin Clark, but this was a passive,
aggressive way of talking about Caitlyn Clark. And it actually
comes from Angel Reese, her rival in college at LSU
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and now a member of the Chicago Sky. Reese received
a hard follow in a game against the Connecticut Sun
this past weekend. She was asked about it in the
post game on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
It's not just because I'm a rookie. I'm a player.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
I'm a basketball player. They don't give a damn if
I'm a rookie. I mean, I want them to come
at me every day. I want them to come at everybody.
I mean, they're not supposed to be nice to me.
I hope y'all know that they're not supposed to be
nice to me or lay down because I'm injuries who
or because I'm a rookie, Like thank you at per
cent of the message to me because I got back
up and I kept going to and kept pushing like
me and at have been cool since we were in Marlan,
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So I know it's not no Hark in this, and
I appreciate it for going.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
At me every day.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
What you did that was one hundred percent directed at
anybody who said they should ease up on Caitlin Clark
or on Kaitlyn Clark herself. Angel Race responding in that
sort of fashion, by the way, I took a tweet down.
She did take a tweet you the leader to tweet
that it did criticize Kitlin Clark at one point. So
that's why I don't think that there was a memo
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at all, because if so, Angel Reese did not get
the memo.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And also, I you know, there's no publicity is bad
public or what's the expression?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
No such thing as bad publicity?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, and so this even though this is a divisive
conversation when it comes to Kitlin Clark, everybody wants to
fight about Kaitlin Clark. They don't want to discuss Kitlink Clark.
They don't have a conversation. They just want to fight.
But in the end, you're talking about the WNBA, which
is a good thing, you know, Like overall we're talking
about the WNBA, we are seeing updates on the biggest
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sports sites. When it comes to what Angel Reese is doing,
what Kaitlin Clark is doing, what the Sparks are doing
with Cameron Brink. That's that's why I don't think there
was a memo about that. They're like, let's let's keep
this going.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Monty Blago. So I'm dan Byer Kevin Wyatt waiting patiently
as we wrap up our new segment, who said, what
about Caitlin Clark? There it was soft Launch.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
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Speaker 2 (33:19):
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. As we
try to squeeze the rest of the juice out of
this sports weekend, She's monte Blago. So I'm Dan Byer
in for Doug. Two bits of information want to pass
along that occurred this weekend. The Pioneer Press in the
Twin Cities reported something that Pro Football Talk had said
that they had heard around the NFL Draft. At the
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Minnesota Vikings, we're trying to trade up to draft LSU's
Malik Neighbors. And if that would have been the case,
they then would have tried to trade Justin Jefferson. So
the Pioneer Press reports that that was a plan for Minnesota.
They were unable to do so the Giants end up
taking Neighbors. And this is a team that again drafted
Jordan Adison in the first round last year. But Justin
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Jefferson wants a new contract. There's hasn't shown up to
the to the you know, workouts this offseason. The OTAs
and Apparently Minnesota was planning life without Justin Jefferson. So
that was an interesting tibet backed up by things that
Mike Floria and Pro Football Talk had heard. So there's
there's your little NFL tidbit.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So they were ready to start over. Yeah, they're ready
to start over if it would have gone their.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Way, and it would have been when you when you
have a young quarterback, I think that it really helps
to have your star wide receiver right there. Even though
maybe it's not great for the star wide receiver, it's
good for your quarterback. I actually think it worked out
well for Minnesota in that case because if, by the way,
if you're drafting Leak Navis, that means you're not drafting
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JJ McCarthy exactly. So that was that was the plan
of Minnesota. And then apparently Lebron James is a free agent.
Did you know this?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yes? No, I mean that's what I heard told.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
The Alternative broadcast over the weekend. That kind of let
it slip out that Lebron was a free agent. And
now there are rumblings that he could be going to
Phoenix to be a member of the Phoenix Sons if
he ops out of his contract. And then the Suns
then would draft Bronnie James with the twenty second overall pick,
so Lebron would not only go to the Phoenix Suns
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get the minimum, but it'd also get a chance to
play with his son.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I cannot believe that this is an actual thing. What
is going to happen when it's Bryce? Is he just
gonna pick whatever team he wants and all three of
them are going to play together?
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Well, yes, and they would have it. They would go
to Phoenix and then they would change the spelling of
their name to Sons. That's what they would do. They
would be the Phoenix Suns. They would be the Phoenix Suns,
but it would just be s o Ns instead of Suns.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I am going to take part credit for that because
I think I set you up because that was nice.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
It was actually the only reason I wanted to do
that story was because of that joke. That was that
was That was truly it. The Sons Phoenix Suns starring Lebron.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
James and his son. What is happening?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
His wife may have to be on the bench because
they couldn't afford any other players, so she'd have to
be there as well. And you know what, I'll tell
you when they would host that playing game for the
seventh seed. Boy, Phoenix is going to be rocking. The
Phoenix is going to be rocking, oh man, because I'll
tell you what, You're not getting past Dallas or Denver,
Minnesota or the Spurs with that lineup.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
So so what do they keep Kevin Durant, Booker or Well,
they'd all be there.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It'd be the whole deal. Yeah, maybe, yeah, why not.
Brianni would start She's Moncey Milanos, I'm Dan Byer Cave
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