June 3, 2024 • 35 mins
Doug riffs on the Justin Jefferson deal. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take on Caitlin Clark. Doug chooses among deserving candidates that Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Tommy Pham makes today's edition of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottli Show. Here's in
the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
What I'm about it Iver Radio. How you doing. You
have a good weekend? Great, that's good. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast, hope you're doing well.
You know, I personally personally love this topic. Okay, so
justin Jefferson's now the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL.
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And you know, I don't want to get caught up
in the numbers the thirty five minutes. We don't know
what the real numbers are, how it all works, but
I do think this portion of it is interesting in
quase Adelpha Mensa is their gentle manager. He came in
with with the San Francisco forty nine ers. He came
to the Vikings from the San Francisco forty nine ers,
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and if you haven't paid attention, what he's trying to
create is what the San Francisco forty nine ers had.
And oh yeah, by the way, again it's kind of
the same thing at quarterback. Remember they had they had
Jimmy Garoppolo, who was a stabilizing, good solid took him
to a super Bowl, but good to a point. And
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you look at the Vikings and again he inherited it.
But Kirk Cousins was there who was good, got him
to the playoffs, took him to a point. Now they
want to take that next step and they're going to
do it by drafting a quarterback. And of course we
know that that the Niners actually missed on Trey Lance
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as their top quarterback, but they ended up, you know,
getting Brock Purty as a seventh rap pick who made
no money. And while they had, why you have brock
perty not making any money, you load up the rest
of your roster and maybe even overpay guys like a
while receiver Deebo Samuel for example. And it makes sense, right,
(02:07):
what do you do when you're starting a business. So
I'm starting a basketball team. So now the difference is
I didn't come from obviously we had at oklhom State.
We did it one way. But I'm going to take
the things that I learned that I like from other
like programs and try to put it in to Green Bay. Right,
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how we recruit, how we staff, how we practice, how
we play, same sort of formula. You copy where you've
won previously or what you've been through previously, or things
you like, and you go, oh, I want to take that.
That's you're a lot. What is it? The uh uh
amateurs borrow? Professional steal? That's what? What's the lead singer
(02:49):
of aerosmith? Uh? Samue? What's the lead singer of Aerosmith's name?
Why am I? Why am I blanking? Oh? My goodness.
Steven Tyler, he's quoted saying that, right. They asked them
about like sounds and riffs and where you guys got some,
and he said, amateur's borough, professional steal. That's all Adelphamnson
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is doing. He's stealing from the Niners plan. And the
Niners plan is not only one that's taken them to
NFC Championship Games and Souper Bowls, but it's a sustainable model.
Sustainable model, and that's what you want. That's what all
these you guys are searching for. You may hit or
miss on quarterback, but what you can do is while
you're trying to figure out if that's the guy, we
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want to give the second big contract to the Josh
Allens of the world, the Pat Mahomes of the world, etc.
Justin Herbert's of the world, you got it while they're
under that rookie deal. You got to build up your
entire roster. And of course, if you come from San Francisco,
you're gonna do what San Francisco did, because why wouldn't you.
It's worked, it'll continue to work.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
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Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's get to what the Fox sat and now every day,
this time on The Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
we play for you a portion of a previous show
on FSRFS one. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about Kaylin Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Everybody's freaking out. Where is the protection boy? Once again,
the media fans protecting somebody that doesn't need protecting. When
Tony ku Coach came from Europe to play with the Bulls,
MJ and Scottie Pippen, this is what they did to
their own teammate. In practice. Sports is tribal, it's intimidating,
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it's physical, and it's proven those who aren't tough don't
make it. She is Kennedy Carter is the Patrick Beverly
of the WNBA. She's on her third team. Feisty as hell, tough,
intimidating and physical. She is there to provoke. Like Pat
(05:00):
Trick Beverley, who I ran into the gym recently got
a chip, little anger, tough, wouldn't want to mess with them.
And that's what Kennedy Carter is. The NHL, the NBA,
they've always had enforcers. They don't always have to be
the biggest player on the fourth floor. They've got to
be scrappy and defiant, sometimes bordering on unfair, physical, inappropriate.
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That's all that happened. My only issue in that entire weekend,
all these hard fouls, Why didn't one of Kaitlin Clark's
teammates defender?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Where are your teammates? It's the weirdest shit ever. And
so the question becomes is it Are they jealous of her?
Is it just terrible culture? And that hasn't these women
don't know it? Hey, what could it possibly be? Or
could she just rub them the wrong way? Like we
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only know the front facing Kaitlin Clark, who seems to
handle all of this with kind of grace and ease.
But is this something she's done? It is absolutely definitely weird.
And I've had a bunch of NBA people like, dude,
what college people like? What you know, the the hip
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check stuff that happens, Usually you're more discreet about it.
We talked about this a little bit on radio, Like
the difference is that that these things that are usually
subtle are not subtle in the w NBA. Right, the
trash talk in the NBA is usually subtle. You can't
see it, hear it, like you see a little bit,
(06:38):
I can't define it. Where in the the WNBA is
like they they just don't know how to be subtle.
Like I remember when I was first playing college basketball.
My my first coach was John McCloud Lake John McCloud,
and of course he coached what's what's called the NBA's
greatest game, the NBA Finals game that went was five
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zero times with the Phoenix Suns in Boston Celtics for
a long time, and he said, like, look, his deal
was one if a big guy on the other team,
I'll never forget this, and the big guy in the
other team hammers one of our guards. The next time
down the court when the officials not looking, you were
to hammer that big guy. And in our first exhibition
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game of my college career, we played some German pro
team and they had a big seven footer and he
Ryan Hoover drove the lane. He just clubbed him, clubbed him,
and we had to get up and come to practice
and we lost the exhibition game. We came to practice
the next day, we watched film and I'll never get
a job. Look at you, Marcus Young Matt gotch like
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a couple of cows in the pasture, just chewing your cud.
And we went out there and we practiced, and you know,
they got those guys so riled up that they squared
off to fight. And of course, you know when you
do that right after you got yelled at, then the
coach's like, oh now you want to fight last night.
You don't want to protect your teammate. So yeah, it's
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it's always taught in any team I've been that you
protect your guys, especially your stars and your young and
your little ones. That's the job of But to no
one to pick her up, no one to be there
for something's off there, Something is off. Here's Dan Patrick
talking about the breaking news that Justin Jefferson had signed
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extension making him the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Part of his job is not just to be great,
but to make sure that he elevates his quarterback. He's
got to make JJ McCarthy better. Jordan Addison, they have
to make him better because I don't know when he starts.
They have Sam Dornold. But part of your job is
going to be usually you know, you want your quarterback
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to make your wide receivers better. Mahomes when he lost
Tyreek Hill, people didn't panic. He was going to make
whoever he had along with Travis Kelcey better. How many
wide receivers? You know, Tyreek Hill makes Tua better. Jalen
Wattle makes to a better. I don't think it's the
other way around. The wide receivers with San Francisco make
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Brock Purty better. I think the receivers in Philadelphia make
Jalen Hurts better. I don't think it's the other way around.
And I think that's the tricky part. When you're paying
Joe Burrow, that's probably reciprocal with his receivers and Joe
they both make each other better. Can you think of
Josh Allen is going to have to make some receivers
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better this year, No, Stefan Diggs. You're gonna have to
make them better. But when you're signing somebody giving them
that amount of money, like does Dak Prescott make CD
Lamb or does Ceedee Lamb make Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's really interesting because I look at this similarly. But
also you have to remember what happens when you have
quarterbacks not making a lot of money? Is it a lot?
Allows you to build a roster around them? And Justin
Jefferson is an elite wide receiver and did they overpay
I don't know. Maybe we don't. We also don't know
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the details. We just know that it's the highest amount ever.
But there's got to be some grand leader details which
are at least slightly team friendly. Right, But this is
what the Vikings have decided to do, which is, hey,
we're just going to get solid quarterbacks, just like the
San Francisco forty nine ers and Quasi Delfamenza came from
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the San Francisco forty nine ers, right, So they got
Sam Donald and they drafted a guy in JJ McCarthy
who will probably take over who knows at what time
during the year, and if he doesn't he you know,
he's not gonna be making any money for four years,
and during those four years, you can go and spend
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money on the guys that you want to keep and
then keep drafting dudes and you got plenty of money
to spend that. That's the game plan. That's how it works.
And yes, Jefferson is going to have to pick up
the slack considering he doesn't have Kirk Cousins anymore. Here's
Brady Quinn LeVar Arrington talking about Lamar Jackson missing OTAs
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and forfeitting seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in bonus pay.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
When you add it all up within his contract, he's
got a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus for
showing up for the offseason workouts, which I mean you
were talking about seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. As an
earner in America, that puts you in a minimum the
top two percent. There's a lot of people out there
who would love to say, yeah, I would love to
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show up and be present to at least make the
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and look as a quarterback. Obviously,
there's a little bit more involved than that. It's more
than just showing up. But for the most part, he
could take a limited reps. As long as you are present,
as long as you're there at meetings, as long as
you're working out a little bit, they're gonna give it
to you. Like they're gonna give you that money, that bonus.
(12:06):
I've seen other players do this where they do even
less than that, but they're present and they've got to
work out bonus and they want to make sure that
they get that money. Does it surprise you to hear
that that's how much his workout bonus is and he's
just willing to say, no, I'm good, I'm gonna go
ahead and do my own thing for a little bit.
You know, I'm curious to as to why you would
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have it in your contract if you're not planning on
getting it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Thank you. I mean what LeVar said, I mean, what
they both said was really interesting, obviously because they both
lived that life. But what LaVar said was the one
that jumps out to me, like, wait, why did you
put this in your deal? If you're just gonna leave there?
Why would you hold out hold out? But why would
you go and try and get every last penny in
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the contract, which I me it shows you how Lamar's
really wired. That it's not necessarily even about every last dollar.
It's about how it looks. It's like a respect thing
to him, which is comical. You know, Like, dude, if
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you if if getting all that money and getting all
that respect was really important and all you got to
do is show up and you don't show up, I
just it doesn't feel like it's about the right things,
especially when you're the quarterback of the of the Baltimore Ravens.
I don't know. I don't. I don't understand that. Wait,
all I got to do is show up and I
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get seven or fifty thousand dollars. I don't. That's a
weird one. That's what the Fox said. Do say Ready
for Buke? All right, here we go coming down in
three two one. Let's welcome him in. He's the man,
the myth, the legend. He's Rick Buker from Foxsports dot
(13:59):
Com and Sports one. But like, I actually want to
work backwards here. Your expectations for this series are.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
What I expect the Mavericks to win the series. I
would expect that it's going to be in five or
six games. The big question is going to be the
availability and ability of Christopsperzingis. I think that can make
(14:29):
it a much more interesting series. I don't really know
how to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's what the Fox set.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
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Speaker 2 (14:49):
Let's find out Who's annoying Jason Stewart, And now it's
your annoying. You know, we haven't talked in a couple
of days, which means there's a lot of things that
have been ticking you off. Right. You got that pent
up weekend of negative energy and I just love it.
(15:10):
Let's harness it. What's annoying you today, Jase do Let's.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
See well, an annoying part of the weekend was that
the all of the to do about Caitlin Clark and
the Chrennity Kennedy would however you want to pronounce her
name incident took away from the fact that she scored
three points on Sunday and was like the fourth best
player on her own team, which is the opposite of transcendent.
(15:34):
But I won't even start there. Let's just go El Duncan.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
El is the opposite of transcendent, just sending.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Yeah, it's just sendent. She's the fourth best player on
our team. El Duncan is a big w NBA supporter advocate.
She might even do some broadcasts because she seems to
take ownership and the fact that she's been covering it
and you haven't. So she's talking to you, Doug. She's
talking to white men that are weighing in on Caitlin Clark,
(16:05):
and she went on Bemani Jones's podcast to talk about it.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
If you are new and you don't have the capacity
yet to talk about storylines within the W because you
just don't.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Know enough, that's okay.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
But what you shouldn't do is because you just want
to lend your voice to the conversation in general, keep
rehashing the same tired, boring, dumb ass, fabricated storyline that
all of these women are bitter and can't stand. Caitlin Clark.
I'm frustrated because the only time that we hear the
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newbies or the outsiders refer to any storylines inside the W,
it is essentially putting mostly black and brown women in
a place where the miscreants then get to slide into
their dms undeservingly and attack them.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh my god. L Duncan is the like, well, she's
such like, first of all, let me let me start
with this. I actually think she's a marvelous talent.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
There have been several times in which I've been trying
to craft like a show, a different show whatever, I've said, like, man,
I'd like to work with L. Duncan, Like, I think
she's a super talented lady. Okay, but she has lost
her fucking mind here. She sounds like the most the
most woke, defensive person in in maybe an ESPN history.
(17:31):
She has a podcast that they're trying to make into
a big deal and this is a great way to
make your podcast go away. And of course she's playing
to her audience with Bamani Jones, who suddenly now is
covering the NBA when like that that dude, everything is
everything comes down to race with him, and you knew
she was getting there, right, And I know this is
what pisses you off, Like, Okay, so here's the thing.
(17:54):
WNBA people, and we like you actually kind of cracked
the because it's such a clown show. We're gonna We're
still talking about it even though we don't actually give
a shit about the games. So I guess in terms
of in terms of if if any publicity is good publicity,
the WNBA is doing a great job in keeping themselves
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part of this discussion. And here's the problem. He's like,
if you're new to this, we know it's existed for
twenty five years, Okay, and the reason, and again I'm
going to say this that I know it to be true,
there's no nobody gives a flying fuck. They don't and
please don't make that the oh so you don't. I
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had somebody slide into my Twitter like, oh, oh, what
does that say about women's basketball at Green Bay? Kayle's
right down the hall from me, And if you asked
her truth be told, she would say the same thing, like,
the problem isn't pee how people are now covering it.
The problem is the bitterness in that nobody covered it
for twenty five years. I understood. There's lots of things
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that exist for twenty five years. Ok not that don't
make money. That they didn't make money for a long time,
but they completely changed. You remember they used to be
owned by NBA owners and the NBA owners like, dude,
I'm done losing money on this bullshit. That's what happened.
They used to be an NBA arenas and they dial
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back to smaller arenas and got better deals, right, And look,
they've survived twenty five years. Now they have a chance
to thrive, thrive. But it's like, you're still bitter that
nobody cares covered you for twenty five years, dude, nobody.
We cover what people care about. And in all honesty,
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if Elle was really honest with herself, she would know
that the only reason for years that ESPN covered the
WNBA was because they had the fucking contract. When I
was there, we never talked hockey ever. It was barely
on Sports Center. Why did that change because they got
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the NHL because they're promoting their own sport, right the
hockey department when I was there was Barry Melrose and
Steve Levy. That was it. And there's more way more
hockey fans, way more fervent hockey fans than they're WNBA fans.
And so hockey guy could sit there and be like,
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all right, I can't right right now, TNT covering it
and ESPN cover like, oh you guys, didn't cover it
for years. Well no, shit, they didn't have the rights.
But like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Like, so.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I I I can't. I need someone to explain, like
if El Duncans is there, what has nothing to do
with them being bitter and jealous? And what the fuck's
it about? What's it about? It's kind of painfully obvious. Now,
I don't think it has to do with racism. Is
there a tinge of the fact that she's the white
girl that people like? Sure, but Sabrina was like that
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a couple of years ago. She had a shoe deal,
she was everybody loved her. She's super talented, Kelsey Plump
same thing. Right, These are two super super talented women
from the Pacific Northwest, and Sabrina got a big time
Nike shoe deal. I think it's their number one selling shoe.
And again, I know a little bit more about the
shoe industry than all these other fucking clowns because I'm
friends with these guys. They're like, look, they made her
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shoe the team shoe. It's a great shoe. It was
supposed to be the Kyrie shoe, and said, now it's
her shoe. Right. The obvious and the Kyrie shoe sold
well because it was the team shoe as well. Team
shoe means if your team orders some Nike, they have
to order that those are their first kind of base model.
And then sometimes you get the let you got your
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kids a variety of options if you will. But the
point is that, like, what are you talking about, ell
like we're clown is because we didn't cover the sport. No,
nobody fucking cared. The only thing we are our only
premise on this radio show. Okay, And I learned this
when I was at ESPN. Don't talk about what you
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give a shit about. Talk about what other people give
a shit about. And this is the first time in
the history of my radio career where people actually give
a shit about the WNBA. And I honestly think what
they're what they've done is they've gotten a taste. And
because these women are not capable of handling all that
goes with this attention, Like you want it both ways.
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We want to be judged as women as ladies, right,
and there a lot of these women are dressing, you know,
getting dressed up for their walkthrough whatever. Oh, but we
don't want to be sexualized. Okay, Okay, you can't cover
this league in these tired storylines. It's not a tired storyline.
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It just fucking happened the other day. This is the
only reason people are paying attention to your sport, the
only reason. And they're like, no, that's not true. The
numbers bear it. The numbers tell you all you need
to know, the numbers to steal from the past, show
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that I think Mamani was on. The numbers, never lie.
The numbers don't have your feelings. The numbers don't have
your tinges of racism or wokeism or whatever it is.
The numbers tell you that the only reason people are
now paying attention to the WNBA is because of Caitlin Clark.
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That's not an old story, that's a current story. And
all of these ladies sound like they're the most jealous
hacks ever ever. And the fact that you're so defensive
about it and define about it, and the fact that
it always has to come back to racism, and oh yeah,
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by the way, like it's not just the woke side
that claims racism, it's also now now we got people
who are white people like, well, the only reason they're
picking on her is because she's white. I don't think
that's what it's about. I think they're just jealous of
the attention she's gotten. So yeah, she annoys me too.
And the sad thing is, like, again, I think she's
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a crazy talented broadcaster, crazy talented broadcaster, but she's lost
her fucking mind on this one.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Yeah, no, no, I like the if I'm to judge
her on her delivery and how articulate she is, I
really like her presentation, but the content, there's just so
much to argue with her.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's the same thing as Bemani. It's no, no, no, it's
the same thing as money. Like look, Bimoni Jones took
over my time slot at the ESPN Radio. It failed,
miserably lost affiliate after affiliate after affiliate. It's not because
Butmani's not interesting. It's because the topics that he picks
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are on our like it would be like him he
used to he would talk about the w NBA. He
would talk about kind of nichey things and and things that. Like, again,
this is sports radio. In sports radio, people want to
know about Justin Jefferson and how that affects all the
rest of their wide receiver contracts. Is this going to
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dramatically change the market and dramatically change my team's ability.
What happens now with since Andy Bengals to Higgins because
to Higgins like I want Justin Jefferson money, and I
know T. Higgins is not Justin Jefferson. I'm not an idiot.
The point is that's not how it works in the NFL.
Like this is sports radio. Most of us listen to
by dudes or women that are huge sports fans, and
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they want to tell they want to know about topics
that they give a shit about. And they haven't given
a shit about the there's no metric that said people
cared about it until now. And the defiance over that
is almost comical, almost comical.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
And don't get me started on whoever chose to name
her Chnity Carter. Nobody's ever been named Chnity in the
history of humans. I need an explanation on that one.
So so CJ. Stroud, I don't know if you saw this,
but he felt the need to list the top his
top five quarterbacks.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
I know what I'm doing, mahmes lamar myself, Dak do
we be that that boy?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
So I just wrote down what I think is the
top five quarterbacks and I think these are arguable. But
mahomes Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and if Stroud wants
to put himself in there, that's cool. Mahomes Burrow, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson. Who are you? Who are you kicking out to?
Put Dak in? Doug? Who who goes?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, I I don't know anybody who would have
Dak as a top five quarterback. But he's all He's
allowed his he's allowed his opinion as a quarterback. Who
am I kicking out?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I just want to I want to hear the argument
that he has against If you're not including Burrow, give
me the argument against Burrow and put him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You know, Prescott, he said that Burrow didn't play much
last year. That was his argument about Burrow.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Oh okay, but I didn't hear that part.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Really, Yeah, played again.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
I don't know what I'm doing. Mahons lamar myself, Dak
do we be he hurts that that boy?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Okay? So he includes.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Hurts, He includes Hurts and Dak.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And no Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
No Josh Allen and no no Burrow.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
That's I mean, that's that's not that's not very good
list And then Lebron James, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Part of the Hurts thing. And this is where I
would I would I would guess Stroud is going for it.
The year before, his numbers were spectacular, but Jalen Hurts
was absolutely positively not a top five quarterback. By the way,
Joe Burrow did play did play ten games last year.
So you know, look, I give CJ a little bit
of a pass only that he's young. These are guys
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that he probably knows and likes, and there are guys
that he vials as his contemporaries. But not having Josh
Allen on there is laughable laughable.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
This is great. You know, we've caught Lebron James in
a lot of wives. We have the media and his
you know, contemporaries, but he actually caught himself into a lot.
On his most recent podcast with J. J. Reddick, it
went like this, I.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Play a lot of chess.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Not in real life.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I've actually, you know a lot of people have told
me you should, look, you should play chess because you'll
be great.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I've never played chess, but in my mind I feel
like I played chess on the floor.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Yeah, I play a lot of chess. Pause and I
think in that pause, he's like, oh, wait, if JJ
asked me about chess, I can't. So he checked himself
and then he's like, a lot of people think I
should play chess. And then he said, but you know
I play chess on the court. Well, if you've never
played chess, how do you know you're playing it on
the court. Just just he caught himself, And now now
(29:27):
we could be like, Okay, so when you said that
your favorite movie is a Godfather and someone asked you,
just what's your favorite line from the Godfather, and you
said all of them? You know, there's so many of them.
So at this point, I think in his mind he said,
I play a lot of chess, and then he paused
and then like if JJ were like, hey, what's your
favorite piece or what's your favorite chess opened, you know,
(29:49):
he'd be like, all of them, there's so many. I
can't I can't choose. Like I could see that, I
could see his mind working, the hamster wheel in his
mind working, and that kind of leads to what I'm
annoyed by. It's not enough for Lebron James to be
world famous, one of the best athletes we've ever seen
on the planet. It's not enough for him. He needs
(30:10):
to prove to us that he's sophisticated, right, And I
think there's an old rule. If you have to prove
to me that you're sophisticated, then you're not. Then you're
You think that there's an insecurity there that he's trying
to overcome, And to me, that's annoying. It's like, I
like Lebron, He's a real cool guy. He stays out
of trouble, seems to be a good family guy. He
(30:31):
but this need to prove to us that he's more
sophisticated than he already is. I think that's what's annoying
to me.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's really really really interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I play a lot of chess. Yeah yeah, not in
real life, you know, not in real life.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah. I just what happens when you surrounded yourself with
sick evans for a long time is you're able to
get away with saying shit that everybody knows it's not
totally true. And he's not the only one, right, Most
of these dudes that are, I mean, I mean quite obviously,
(31:12):
like Donald Trump and his braggadocious statements that are just
patently false. I like Biden does the same thing. Right,
they all do the same thing. They all say shit,
They're like it's not really true, Like I just roll
with it. He's on a roll. Was it over when
the Germans bro bomb Pro Harbor? Hell? No, right, goes
back to Blue Tarski in Animal House. But yeah, that
(31:35):
was a That was a funny one that he caught
himself in a little bit of a lie. By the way,
I I like chess. I really do like chess, but
it's one of those games where you got to get
somebody at your level. Otherwise it is it is exhausting,
or it's over really quick and embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I play. If you were to Christina, my super hot girlfriend,
if you were to ask her right now, what annoys
you most about your living boyfriend, she would say, he
plays too much chess. When there is a spare couple
of minutes or whatever. I'm online playing chess, I'm playing
(32:18):
somebody you know at chess dot com. You play live
people around the world. I played too much chess, and
the best way that I have come to play it
is the bullet chess. You have a minute to make
all your moves you can. You can get a game
done in two minutes. So if patience is your thing
(32:39):
and your a d d adhd speed chess, I recommend
that it's a great way to spend some time.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Speed chess is crazy crazy, crazy crazy. What else is
annoying you?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
That's it? So Lebron for catching himself in a lie
L Duncan and J Strow But you've already given the
CJ pass.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, I think I think El Duck is it?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Why are we doing this? Why do I because we can?
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Like every time Tommy Fam gets into something, gets into
an altercation, it's the favorite. It's my favorite thing of
that week or month, Like he is amazing. So he
got thrown out at home this week on a play
that was he was out by a mile okay, but
I guess the catcher turned around or the other dugout
you know, was yelling at him after they tagged him
(33:39):
out at home. This is a great SoundBite from Tommy
Fam who's now in the White Sox, the worst team
in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
One round ball game. Close play at the play and
I actually wasn't even fucking close. This is a shallow
fly ball to left field. You you would expect the
left fielder to throw the base runner out on that play.
But this situation of the game, you know, I third
base coach sends you, you gotta go. I'm nailed out
(34:08):
at at home by a mile. I'm going to the dugout.
Then you know, I hear the tough guy with all
the hoho roh ship. You know. So I'll never start anything,
but I'll be prepared to finish it. There's a reason
why you know, I do all kinds of fighting in
the off season because I'm prepared to fuck somebody up.
(34:29):
So you can take it as what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Tommy, Tommy Fam wants to be a badass. I do
all kinds of fighting, so it is what it is. Wow,
that's that's that's awesome. Well, you can always count on
Tommy Fam to be one of the least like guys
in Major League Baseball, but at least he can defend
himself when ship goes down. Why can we play it
for you? Because we can't. That's it for the end
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
What I'm about it Iver Radio. How you doing. You
have a good weekend? Great, that's good. This is the
Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus podcast, hope you're doing well.
You know, I personally personally love this topic. Okay, so
justin Jefferson's now the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL.
(00:43):
And you know, I don't want to get caught up
in the numbers the thirty five minutes. We don't know
what the real numbers are, how it all works, but
I do think this portion of it is interesting in
quase Adelpha Mensa is their gentle manager. He came in
with with the San Francisco forty nine ers. He came
to the Vikings from the San Francisco forty nine ers,
(01:05):
and if you haven't paid attention, what he's trying to
create is what the San Francisco forty nine ers had.
And oh yeah, by the way, again it's kind of
the same thing at quarterback. Remember they had they had
Jimmy Garoppolo, who was a stabilizing, good solid took him
to a super Bowl, but good to a point. And
(01:26):
you look at the Vikings and again he inherited it.
But Kirk Cousins was there who was good, got him
to the playoffs, took him to a point. Now they
want to take that next step and they're going to
do it by drafting a quarterback. And of course we
know that that the Niners actually missed on Trey Lance
(01:46):
as their top quarterback, but they ended up, you know,
getting Brock Purty as a seventh rap pick who made
no money. And while they had, why you have brock
perty not making any money, you load up the rest
of your roster and maybe even overpay guys like a
while receiver Deebo Samuel for example. And it makes sense, right,
(02:07):
what do you do when you're starting a business. So
I'm starting a basketball team. So now the difference is
I didn't come from obviously we had at oklhom State.
We did it one way. But I'm going to take
the things that I learned that I like from other
like programs and try to put it in to Green Bay. Right,
(02:28):
how we recruit, how we staff, how we practice, how
we play, same sort of formula. You copy where you've
won previously or what you've been through previously, or things
you like, and you go, oh, I want to take that.
That's you're a lot. What is it? The uh uh
amateurs borrow? Professional steal? That's what? What's the lead singer
(02:49):
of aerosmith? Uh? Samue? What's the lead singer of Aerosmith's name?
Why am I? Why am I blanking? Oh? My goodness.
Steven Tyler, he's quoted saying that, right. They asked them
about like sounds and riffs and where you guys got some,
and he said, amateur's borough, professional steal. That's all Adelphamnson
(03:09):
is doing. He's stealing from the Niners plan. And the
Niners plan is not only one that's taken them to
NFC Championship Games and Souper Bowls, but it's a sustainable model.
Sustainable model, and that's what you want. That's what all
these you guys are searching for. You may hit or
miss on quarterback, but what you can do is while
you're trying to figure out if that's the guy, we
(03:31):
want to give the second big contract to the Josh
Allens of the world, the Pat Mahomes of the world, etc.
Justin Herbert's of the world, you got it while they're
under that rookie deal. You got to build up your
entire roster. And of course, if you come from San Francisco,
you're gonna do what San Francisco did, because why wouldn't you.
It's worked, it'll continue to work.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
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Speaker 2 (04:00):
Let's get to what the Fox sat and now every day,
this time on The Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
we play for you a portion of a previous show
on FSRFS one. Here's Colin Cowhert talking about Kaylin Clark.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Everybody's freaking out. Where is the protection boy? Once again,
the media fans protecting somebody that doesn't need protecting. When
Tony ku Coach came from Europe to play with the Bulls,
MJ and Scottie Pippen, this is what they did to
their own teammate. In practice. Sports is tribal, it's intimidating,
(04:38):
it's physical, and it's proven those who aren't tough don't
make it. She is Kennedy Carter is the Patrick Beverly
of the WNBA. She's on her third team. Feisty as hell, tough,
intimidating and physical. She is there to provoke. Like Pat
(05:00):
Trick Beverley, who I ran into the gym recently got
a chip, little anger, tough, wouldn't want to mess with them.
And that's what Kennedy Carter is. The NHL, the NBA,
they've always had enforcers. They don't always have to be
the biggest player on the fourth floor. They've got to
be scrappy and defiant, sometimes bordering on unfair, physical, inappropriate.
(05:23):
That's all that happened. My only issue in that entire weekend,
all these hard fouls, Why didn't one of Kaitlin Clark's
teammates defender?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Where are your teammates? It's the weirdest shit ever. And
so the question becomes is it Are they jealous of her?
Is it just terrible culture? And that hasn't these women
don't know it? Hey, what could it possibly be? Or
could she just rub them the wrong way? Like we
(05:55):
only know the front facing Kaitlin Clark, who seems to
handle all of this with kind of grace and ease.
But is this something she's done? It is absolutely definitely weird.
And I've had a bunch of NBA people like, dude,
what college people like? What you know, the the hip
(06:16):
check stuff that happens, Usually you're more discreet about it.
We talked about this a little bit on radio, Like
the difference is that that these things that are usually
subtle are not subtle in the w NBA. Right, the
trash talk in the NBA is usually subtle. You can't
see it, hear it, like you see a little bit,
(06:38):
I can't define it. Where in the the WNBA is
like they they just don't know how to be subtle.
Like I remember when I was first playing college basketball.
My my first coach was John McCloud Lake John McCloud,
and of course he coached what's what's called the NBA's
greatest game, the NBA Finals game that went was five
(06:59):
zero times with the Phoenix Suns in Boston Celtics for
a long time, and he said, like, look, his deal
was one if a big guy on the other team,
I'll never forget this, and the big guy in the
other team hammers one of our guards. The next time
down the court when the officials not looking, you were
to hammer that big guy. And in our first exhibition
(07:20):
game of my college career, we played some German pro
team and they had a big seven footer and he
Ryan Hoover drove the lane. He just clubbed him, clubbed him,
and we had to get up and come to practice
and we lost the exhibition game. We came to practice
the next day, we watched film and I'll never get
a job. Look at you, Marcus Young Matt gotch like
(07:42):
a couple of cows in the pasture, just chewing your cud.
And we went out there and we practiced, and you know,
they got those guys so riled up that they squared
off to fight. And of course, you know when you
do that right after you got yelled at, then the
coach's like, oh now you want to fight last night.
You don't want to protect your teammate. So yeah, it's
(08:04):
it's always taught in any team I've been that you
protect your guys, especially your stars and your young and
your little ones. That's the job of But to no
one to pick her up, no one to be there
for something's off there, Something is off. Here's Dan Patrick
talking about the breaking news that Justin Jefferson had signed
(08:25):
extension making him the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Part of his job is not just to be great,
but to make sure that he elevates his quarterback. He's
got to make JJ McCarthy better. Jordan Addison, they have
to make him better because I don't know when he starts.
They have Sam Dornold. But part of your job is
going to be usually you know, you want your quarterback
(08:50):
to make your wide receivers better. Mahomes when he lost
Tyreek Hill, people didn't panic. He was going to make
whoever he had along with Travis Kelcey better. How many
wide receivers? You know, Tyreek Hill makes Tua better. Jalen
Wattle makes to a better. I don't think it's the
other way around. The wide receivers with San Francisco make
(09:13):
Brock Purty better. I think the receivers in Philadelphia make
Jalen Hurts better. I don't think it's the other way around.
And I think that's the tricky part. When you're paying
Joe Burrow, that's probably reciprocal with his receivers and Joe
they both make each other better. Can you think of
Josh Allen is going to have to make some receivers
(09:34):
better this year, No, Stefan Diggs. You're gonna have to
make them better. But when you're signing somebody giving them
that amount of money, like does Dak Prescott make CD
Lamb or does Ceedee Lamb make Dak Prescott?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's really interesting because I look at this similarly. But
also you have to remember what happens when you have
quarterbacks not making a lot of money? Is it a lot?
Allows you to build a roster around them? And Justin
Jefferson is an elite wide receiver and did they overpay
I don't know. Maybe we don't. We also don't know
(10:10):
the details. We just know that it's the highest amount ever.
But there's got to be some grand leader details which
are at least slightly team friendly. Right, But this is
what the Vikings have decided to do, which is, hey,
we're just going to get solid quarterbacks, just like the
San Francisco forty nine ers and Quasi Delfamenza came from
(10:35):
the San Francisco forty nine ers, right, So they got
Sam Donald and they drafted a guy in JJ McCarthy
who will probably take over who knows at what time
during the year, and if he doesn't he you know,
he's not gonna be making any money for four years,
and during those four years, you can go and spend
(10:55):
money on the guys that you want to keep and
then keep drafting dudes and you got plenty of money
to spend that. That's the game plan. That's how it works.
And yes, Jefferson is going to have to pick up
the slack considering he doesn't have Kirk Cousins anymore. Here's
Brady Quinn LeVar Arrington talking about Lamar Jackson missing OTAs
(11:18):
and forfeitting seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in bonus pay.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
When you add it all up within his contract, he's
got a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars bonus for
showing up for the offseason workouts, which I mean you
were talking about seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. As an
earner in America, that puts you in a minimum the
top two percent. There's a lot of people out there
who would love to say, yeah, I would love to
(11:43):
show up and be present to at least make the
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars and look as a quarterback. Obviously,
there's a little bit more involved than that. It's more
than just showing up. But for the most part, he
could take a limited reps. As long as you are present,
as long as you're there at meetings, as long as
you're working out a little bit, they're gonna give it
to you. Like they're gonna give you that money, that bonus.
(12:06):
I've seen other players do this where they do even
less than that, but they're present and they've got to
work out bonus and they want to make sure that
they get that money. Does it surprise you to hear
that that's how much his workout bonus is and he's
just willing to say, no, I'm good, I'm gonna go
ahead and do my own thing for a little bit.
You know, I'm curious to as to why you would
(12:27):
have it in your contract if you're not planning on
getting it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Thank you. I mean what LeVar said, I mean, what
they both said was really interesting, obviously because they both
lived that life. But what LaVar said was the one
that jumps out to me, like, wait, why did you
put this in your deal? If you're just gonna leave there?
Why would you hold out hold out? But why would
you go and try and get every last penny in
(12:54):
the contract, which I me it shows you how Lamar's
really wired. That it's not necessarily even about every last dollar.
It's about how it looks. It's like a respect thing
to him, which is comical. You know, Like, dude, if
(13:17):
you if if getting all that money and getting all
that respect was really important and all you got to
do is show up and you don't show up, I
just it doesn't feel like it's about the right things,
especially when you're the quarterback of the of the Baltimore Ravens.
I don't know. I don't. I don't understand that. Wait,
all I got to do is show up and I
(13:37):
get seven or fifty thousand dollars. I don't. That's a
weird one. That's what the Fox said. Do say Ready
for Buke? All right, here we go coming down in
three two one. Let's welcome him in. He's the man,
the myth, the legend. He's Rick Buker from Foxsports dot
(13:59):
Com and Sports one. But like, I actually want to
work backwards here. Your expectations for this series are.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
What I expect the Mavericks to win the series. I
would expect that it's going to be in five or
six games. The big question is going to be the
availability and ability of Christopsperzingis. I think that can make
(14:29):
it a much more interesting series. I don't really know
how to.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That's what the Fox set.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Sad. Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on
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Speaker 2 (14:49):
Let's find out Who's annoying Jason Stewart, And now it's
your annoying. You know, we haven't talked in a couple
of days, which means there's a lot of things that
have been ticking you off. Right. You got that pent
up weekend of negative energy and I just love it.
(15:10):
Let's harness it. What's annoying you today, Jase do Let's.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
See well, an annoying part of the weekend was that
the all of the to do about Caitlin Clark and
the Chrennity Kennedy would however you want to pronounce her
name incident took away from the fact that she scored
three points on Sunday and was like the fourth best
player on her own team, which is the opposite of transcendent.
(15:34):
But I won't even start there. Let's just go El Duncan.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
El is the opposite of transcendent, just sending.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Yeah, it's just sendent. She's the fourth best player on
our team. El Duncan is a big w NBA supporter advocate.
She might even do some broadcasts because she seems to
take ownership and the fact that she's been covering it
and you haven't. So she's talking to you, Doug. She's
talking to white men that are weighing in on Caitlin Clark,
(16:05):
and she went on Bemani Jones's podcast to talk about it.
Speaker 8 (16:10):
If you are new and you don't have the capacity
yet to talk about storylines within the W because you
just don't.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Know enough, that's okay.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
But what you shouldn't do is because you just want
to lend your voice to the conversation in general, keep
rehashing the same tired, boring, dumb ass, fabricated storyline that
all of these women are bitter and can't stand. Caitlin Clark.
I'm frustrated because the only time that we hear the
(16:39):
newbies or the outsiders refer to any storylines inside the W,
it is essentially putting mostly black and brown women in
a place where the miscreants then get to slide into
their dms undeservingly and attack them.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh my god. L Duncan is the like, well, she's
such like, first of all, let me let me start
with this. I actually think she's a marvelous talent.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
There have been several times in which I've been trying
to craft like a show, a different show whatever, I've said, like, man,
I'd like to work with L. Duncan, Like, I think
she's a super talented lady. Okay, but she has lost
her fucking mind here. She sounds like the most the
most woke, defensive person in in maybe an ESPN history.
(17:31):
She has a podcast that they're trying to make into
a big deal and this is a great way to
make your podcast go away. And of course she's playing
to her audience with Bamani Jones, who suddenly now is
covering the NBA when like that that dude, everything is
everything comes down to race with him, and you knew
she was getting there, right, And I know this is
what pisses you off, Like, Okay, so here's the thing.
(17:54):
WNBA people, and we like you actually kind of cracked
the because it's such a clown show. We're gonna We're
still talking about it even though we don't actually give
a shit about the games. So I guess in terms
of in terms of if if any publicity is good publicity,
the WNBA is doing a great job in keeping themselves
(18:17):
part of this discussion. And here's the problem. He's like,
if you're new to this, we know it's existed for
twenty five years, Okay, and the reason, and again I'm
going to say this that I know it to be true,
there's no nobody gives a flying fuck. They don't and
please don't make that the oh so you don't. I
(18:40):
had somebody slide into my Twitter like, oh, oh, what
does that say about women's basketball at Green Bay? Kayle's
right down the hall from me, And if you asked
her truth be told, she would say the same thing, like,
the problem isn't pee how people are now covering it.
The problem is the bitterness in that nobody covered it
for twenty five years. I understood. There's lots of things
(19:04):
that exist for twenty five years. Ok not that don't
make money. That they didn't make money for a long time,
but they completely changed. You remember they used to be
owned by NBA owners and the NBA owners like, dude,
I'm done losing money on this bullshit. That's what happened.
They used to be an NBA arenas and they dial
(19:24):
back to smaller arenas and got better deals, right, And look,
they've survived twenty five years. Now they have a chance
to thrive, thrive. But it's like, you're still bitter that
nobody cares covered you for twenty five years, dude, nobody.
We cover what people care about. And in all honesty,
(19:48):
if Elle was really honest with herself, she would know
that the only reason for years that ESPN covered the
WNBA was because they had the fucking contract. When I
was there, we never talked hockey ever. It was barely
on Sports Center. Why did that change because they got
(20:08):
the NHL because they're promoting their own sport, right the
hockey department when I was there was Barry Melrose and
Steve Levy. That was it. And there's more way more
hockey fans, way more fervent hockey fans than they're WNBA fans.
And so hockey guy could sit there and be like,
(20:29):
all right, I can't right right now, TNT covering it
and ESPN cover like, oh you guys, didn't cover it
for years. Well no, shit, they didn't have the rights.
But like, what are we talking about?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
Like, so.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I I I can't. I need someone to explain, like
if El Duncans is there, what has nothing to do
with them being bitter and jealous? And what the fuck's
it about? What's it about? It's kind of painfully obvious. Now,
I don't think it has to do with racism. Is
there a tinge of the fact that she's the white
girl that people like? Sure, but Sabrina was like that
(21:07):
a couple of years ago. She had a shoe deal,
she was everybody loved her. She's super talented, Kelsey Plump
same thing. Right, These are two super super talented women
from the Pacific Northwest, and Sabrina got a big time
Nike shoe deal. I think it's their number one selling shoe.
And again, I know a little bit more about the
shoe industry than all these other fucking clowns because I'm
friends with these guys. They're like, look, they made her
(21:29):
shoe the team shoe. It's a great shoe. It was
supposed to be the Kyrie shoe, and said, now it's
her shoe. Right. The obvious and the Kyrie shoe sold
well because it was the team shoe as well. Team
shoe means if your team orders some Nike, they have
to order that those are their first kind of base model.
And then sometimes you get the let you got your
(21:49):
kids a variety of options if you will. But the
point is that, like, what are you talking about, ell
like we're clown is because we didn't cover the sport. No,
nobody fucking cared. The only thing we are our only
premise on this radio show. Okay, And I learned this
when I was at ESPN. Don't talk about what you
(22:11):
give a shit about. Talk about what other people give
a shit about. And this is the first time in
the history of my radio career where people actually give
a shit about the WNBA. And I honestly think what
they're what they've done is they've gotten a taste. And
because these women are not capable of handling all that
goes with this attention, Like you want it both ways.
(22:35):
We want to be judged as women as ladies, right,
and there a lot of these women are dressing, you know,
getting dressed up for their walkthrough whatever. Oh, but we
don't want to be sexualized. Okay, Okay, you can't cover
this league in these tired storylines. It's not a tired storyline.
(22:57):
It just fucking happened the other day. This is the
only reason people are paying attention to your sport, the
only reason. And they're like, no, that's not true. The
numbers bear it. The numbers tell you all you need
to know, the numbers to steal from the past, show
(23:19):
that I think Mamani was on. The numbers, never lie.
The numbers don't have your feelings. The numbers don't have
your tinges of racism or wokeism or whatever it is.
The numbers tell you that the only reason people are
now paying attention to the WNBA is because of Caitlin Clark.
(23:41):
That's not an old story, that's a current story. And
all of these ladies sound like they're the most jealous
hacks ever ever. And the fact that you're so defensive
about it and define about it, and the fact that
it always has to come back to racism, and oh yeah,
(24:02):
by the way, like it's not just the woke side
that claims racism, it's also now now we got people
who are white people like, well, the only reason they're
picking on her is because she's white. I don't think
that's what it's about. I think they're just jealous of
the attention she's gotten. So yeah, she annoys me too.
And the sad thing is, like, again, I think she's
(24:24):
a crazy talented broadcaster, crazy talented broadcaster, but she's lost
her fucking mind on this one.
Speaker 7 (24:32):
Yeah, no, no, I like the if I'm to judge
her on her delivery and how articulate she is, I
really like her presentation, but the content, there's just so
much to argue with her.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
It's the same thing as Bemani. It's no, no, no, it's
the same thing as money. Like look, Bimoni Jones took
over my time slot at the ESPN Radio. It failed,
miserably lost affiliate after affiliate after affiliate. It's not because
Butmani's not interesting. It's because the topics that he picks
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are on our like it would be like him he
used to he would talk about the w NBA. He
would talk about kind of nichey things and and things that. Like, again,
this is sports radio. In sports radio, people want to
know about Justin Jefferson and how that affects all the
rest of their wide receiver contracts. Is this going to
(25:29):
dramatically change the market and dramatically change my team's ability.
What happens now with since Andy Bengals to Higgins because
to Higgins like I want Justin Jefferson money, and I
know T. Higgins is not Justin Jefferson. I'm not an idiot.
The point is that's not how it works in the NFL.
Like this is sports radio. Most of us listen to
by dudes or women that are huge sports fans, and
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they want to tell they want to know about topics
that they give a shit about. And they haven't given
a shit about the there's no metric that said people
cared about it until now. And the defiance over that
is almost comical, almost comical.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
And don't get me started on whoever chose to name
her Chnity Carter. Nobody's ever been named Chnity in the
history of humans. I need an explanation on that one.
So so CJ. Stroud, I don't know if you saw this,
but he felt the need to list the top his
top five quarterbacks.
Speaker 9 (26:24):
I know what I'm doing, mahmes lamar myself, Dak do
we be that that boy?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
So I just wrote down what I think is the
top five quarterbacks and I think these are arguable. But
mahomes Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and if Stroud wants
to put himself in there, that's cool. Mahomes Burrow, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson. Who are you? Who are you kicking out to?
Put Dak in? Doug? Who who goes?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I mean, I I don't know anybody who would have
Dak as a top five quarterback. But he's all He's
allowed his he's allowed his opinion as a quarterback. Who
am I kicking out?
Speaker 7 (27:10):
I just want to I want to hear the argument
that he has against If you're not including Burrow, give
me the argument against Burrow and put him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You know, Prescott, he said that Burrow didn't play much
last year. That was his argument about Burrow.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Oh okay, but I didn't hear that part.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Really, Yeah, played again.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
I don't know what I'm doing. Mahons lamar myself, Dak
do we be he hurts that that boy?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Okay? So he includes.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Hurts, He includes Hurts and Dak.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And no Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
No Josh Allen and no no Burrow.
Speaker 10 (27:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
That's I mean, that's that's not that's not very good
list And then Lebron James, you know, well.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Part of the Hurts thing. And this is where I
would I would I would guess Stroud is going for it.
The year before, his numbers were spectacular, but Jalen Hurts
was absolutely positively not a top five quarterback. By the way,
Joe Burrow did play did play ten games last year.
So you know, look, I give CJ a little bit
of a pass only that he's young. These are guys
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that he probably knows and likes, and there are guys
that he vials as his contemporaries. But not having Josh
Allen on there is laughable laughable.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
This is great. You know, we've caught Lebron James in
a lot of wives. We have the media and his
you know, contemporaries, but he actually caught himself into a lot.
On his most recent podcast with J. J. Reddick, it
went like this, I.
Speaker 9 (28:49):
Play a lot of chess.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Not in real life.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
I've actually, you know a lot of people have told
me you should, look, you should play chess because you'll
be great.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I've never played chess, but in my mind I feel
like I played chess on the floor.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Yeah, I play a lot of chess. Pause and I
think in that pause, he's like, oh, wait, if JJ
asked me about chess, I can't. So he checked himself
and then he's like, a lot of people think I
should play chess. And then he said, but you know
I play chess on the court. Well, if you've never
played chess, how do you know you're playing it on
the court. Just just he caught himself, And now now
(29:27):
we could be like, Okay, so when you said that
your favorite movie is a Godfather and someone asked you,
just what's your favorite line from the Godfather, and you
said all of them? You know, there's so many of them.
So at this point, I think in his mind he said,
I play a lot of chess, and then he paused
and then like if JJ were like, hey, what's your
favorite piece or what's your favorite chess opened, you know,
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he'd be like, all of them, there's so many. I
can't I can't choose. Like I could see that, I
could see his mind working, the hamster wheel in his
mind working, and that kind of leads to what I'm
annoyed by. It's not enough for Lebron James to be
world famous, one of the best athletes we've ever seen
on the planet. It's not enough for him. He needs
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to prove to us that he's sophisticated, right, And I
think there's an old rule. If you have to prove
to me that you're sophisticated, then you're not. Then you're
You think that there's an insecurity there that he's trying
to overcome, And to me, that's annoying. It's like, I
like Lebron, He's a real cool guy. He stays out
of trouble, seems to be a good family guy. He
(30:31):
but this need to prove to us that he's more
sophisticated than he already is. I think that's what's annoying
to me.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's really really really interesting.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
I play a lot of chess. Yeah yeah, not in
real life, you know, not in real life.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah. I just what happens when you surrounded yourself with
sick evans for a long time is you're able to
get away with saying shit that everybody knows it's not
totally true. And he's not the only one, right, Most
of these dudes that are, I mean, I mean quite obviously,
(31:12):
like Donald Trump and his braggadocious statements that are just
patently false. I like Biden does the same thing. Right,
they all do the same thing. They all say shit,
They're like it's not really true, Like I just roll
with it. He's on a roll. Was it over when
the Germans bro bomb Pro Harbor? Hell? No, right, goes
back to Blue Tarski in Animal House. But yeah, that
(31:35):
was a That was a funny one that he caught
himself in a little bit of a lie. By the way,
I I like chess. I really do like chess, but
it's one of those games where you got to get
somebody at your level. Otherwise it is it is exhausting,
or it's over really quick and embarrassing.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I play. If you were to Christina, my super hot girlfriend,
if you were to ask her right now, what annoys
you most about your living boyfriend, she would say, he
plays too much chess. When there is a spare couple
of minutes or whatever. I'm online playing chess, I'm playing
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somebody you know at chess dot com. You play live
people around the world. I played too much chess, and
the best way that I have come to play it
is the bullet chess. You have a minute to make
all your moves you can. You can get a game
done in two minutes. So if patience is your thing
(32:39):
and your a d d adhd speed chess, I recommend
that it's a great way to spend some time.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Speed chess is crazy crazy, crazy crazy. What else is
annoying you?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
That's it? So Lebron for catching himself in a lie
L Duncan and J Strow But you've already given the
CJ pass.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, I think I think El Duck is it?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Why are we doing this? Why do I because we can?
Speaker 7 (33:18):
Like every time Tommy Fam gets into something, gets into
an altercation, it's the favorite. It's my favorite thing of
that week or month, Like he is amazing. So he
got thrown out at home this week on a play
that was he was out by a mile okay, but
I guess the catcher turned around or the other dugout
you know, was yelling at him after they tagged him
(33:39):
out at home. This is a great SoundBite from Tommy
Fam who's now in the White Sox, the worst team
in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 10 (33:47):
One round ball game. Close play at the play and
I actually wasn't even fucking close. This is a shallow
fly ball to left field. You you would expect the
left fielder to throw the base runner out on that play.
But this situation of the game, you know, I third
base coach sends you, you gotta go. I'm nailed out
(34:08):
at at home by a mile. I'm going to the dugout.
Then you know, I hear the tough guy with all
the hoho roh ship. You know. So I'll never start anything,
but I'll be prepared to finish it. There's a reason
why you know, I do all kinds of fighting in
the off season because I'm prepared to fuck somebody up.
(34:29):
So you can take it as what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Tommy, Tommy Fam wants to be a badass. I do
all kinds of fighting, so it is what it is. Wow,
that's that's that's awesome. Well, you can always count on
Tommy Fam to be one of the least like guys
in Major League Baseball, but at least he can defend
himself when ship goes down. Why can we play it
for you? Because we can't. That's it for the end
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