June 6, 2024 • 28 mins
Doug Gottlieb reacts to the major news of the day that the Lakers are targeting UConn HC Dan Hurley. The Field of 68 Co-Founder Jeff Goodman joins Doug to highlight potential replacements for Hurley if he were to leave UConn. Plus, has the NBA found a way to make both NBC and TNT happy?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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have here? A bit of a plot twist. I woke
up today from a crazy number of uh of text messages,
a crazy number of text messages from friends in the
basketball industry, crazy number, and they're all like, is this real?
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Is this real? Is this real? Like, I don't know
what you're talking about? And then I turned on the
Twitter machine. It was very early and I saw Woja's
tweet and I'm like, wait a second, didn't Shams just
say JJ Reddick? And I had heard that JJ Reddick
was or they were the Lakers are trying to reach
out to find staffing. So for JJ, so what possibly
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could happen? Well, I can tell you what I have
a These are just this is just guesses, maybe educated guesses.
So the thing about trying to get a head coaching job,
and it took me a long time. The first time
I interviewed for a head coaching job was two thousand
and eight. It's twenty twenty four I got a head
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coaching job. So I can tell you unequivocally that if
you are joined a discussion about becoming a head coach,
do you know what else you need? You need a
plan of execution, right first thirty days, first sixty days,
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first nine days. Who are you gonna hire? And what
I had heard in regards in regards to JJ Reddick
was people around the Lakers were reaching out to see
who was interested in being on his staff. And you
had heard about the makeup potentially of the staff. So
here's my guess. Here's my guess is that there was
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a good number of people that were like, you know,
what this might work? What's the plan? And JJ's plan
was like, I'll just we'll hire guys we'll hire a staff,
you know, we'll put it together. And I'm sure you
reach out to a couple of coaches. You know, James Barrego,
who's up to being potentially being a head coach, maybe
in Cleveland, doesn't want to be the assistant at a
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place that he wanted to be the head coach, and
maybe he said no thanks, and at some point they said, wait,
this is not really a plan. This is an idea.
The idea is great. You gotta have the plan. You
have to you have to give people the view of
what it's gonna look like. You do it in recruiting.
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I have to do it in recruiting. And last night
I was at this amazing dinner, and you know, I'm
constantly stepping out to make recruiting calls. And in recruiting
I don't have I mean, I can show people film
of my AAU team's playing, or my team's in Israel playing,
but I don't have this long resume. So what I
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have to do is let me paint the picture of
what it's going to look like for you. Here's the
guys on my staff, here's the guys on my team.
Here's how we're going to play you have to project
this imaginary visual image of what it's going to be like.
And for JJ, he had an idea, of course, I
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can coach. And the truth is that in coaching, I
have no doubt that JJ Reddick could coach tomorrow in
the NBA and he'd be fine. He'd probably be really good.
But it's all of the other parts of coaching that
is missing, because you have to take people from the
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place of hey, that's an interesting idea to what it
actually looks like and feels like and what the how
it's gonna all work together. So while that's taking place,
I'm sure there's the like, guys, what are we doing here?
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You know, what are we doing here? And hey, did
you know Danny Hurley's new contract hasn't yet made? Did
you know that Lebron James supposedly this from Brian Wyndhorse
earlier today, told the Lakers don't pick a coach because
of me. Pick a coach for Anthony Davis and for beyond.
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But Lebron wants to be coached. Anthony Davis wants to
be coached. And while you don't have an NBA championship
in your resume, the fact is that in order to
win in the NBA, you have to have the respect
of the locker room. To have the respect of the
locker room, you have to have won. And while most
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college coaches haven't done well stepping up to the NBA,
Larry Brown has. There have been others, but Danny has
only been truly successful the last two or three years.
Danny is still not Still he's over himself. He's never
been about him or about acting like his pen is
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some magic pen. He knows how to give credit to
the players and to the other coaches, and to just
be a facilitator for this great program and kind of
be the entertainer on the sidelines. Danny, you can sit
with and say what would it look like for you
to be the head coach? And he because he's recruited,
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because he's done it, because he sold the vision before,
that's an easy vision to sell in the future. My guess,
and again just a guess, is that JJ hiring JJ
was an idea, but there wasn't a vision for what
it would look like provided with that idea, he didn't
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have the plan a place. I'm gonna hire this coach
and that coach and this coach, and here's we're going
to bring in personnel wise, and here's what we're going
to do for that other guy. JJ was like, I
want to coach Lebron likes me, He's got my respect.
You guys fill out that. You guys fill out the
coaching staff will make it work. What's it going to
look like? Just a guess, But my guess is that
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this feels like there's something to it. And oh yeah,
by the way, that doesn't mean this is a done deal.
You know, coaches have gone all the way to the
finish line. Coaches have taken jobs before. The one difference
is for Danny is he did tell his Yukon team
today that he was talking with the Lakers, and when
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you do that, you're opening up the potential for Pandora's
box because they got done with their workouts today and
I'm sure their phones are blowing up because you have
thirty days if your coach leeds to be in the portal,
and then they got to figure out who gets the job.
Probably somebody who's on staff, either Kamani Young or Luke Murray,
who gets to come with him, who stays, because those
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are outside of the those two those are hardcore Yukon
guys that probably stay, and then what's Danny's vision for
his own staff? What does that look like? But we
have said that college basketball is more reflective of the
NBA now than it ever has been. And you have
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a former player who does I understand when you look
him in the sideline you think he's a crazy person.
He's not that way towards his players. Towards his players
players is very different, demanding, but very different. And I'm
guessing that the vision is far easier to sell than
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Speaker 1 (09:37):
Let's welcome in Jeff Goodman. He joins us here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course
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You can see him on Stadium Sports as well. Jeff,
let's your reaction to the news.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I was shocked, like everybody. I mean I just saw
them coupleicio in India. I've been texted with him and nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So I was surprise because again, I mean, Tom's.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Just put out the three couple of days ago that
and everybody kind of thought it was just JJ Reddick
and that's why nothing had been done, right. They had
to wait for the NBA Finals to finish, for JJ
to finish doing his job, and then they were going
to announce JJ Redick as the next head coach of
the Lakers, and uh, you know this one's a little
bit shocking, only because I've always said, Doug, I don't
(10:25):
know if Dan Hurley translates to the NBA, and not
because of the ex's and o's. I mean, he's terrific
at that, we know that, but more because of the
ego involved and the fact that ken NBA guys handled
Dan Hurley. You know, like again, the college game, it's
all about the players in the in the in the
college game, it's all about the coaches. In the NBA game,
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it's all about the players. I just don't know, like
Brad Stevens worked right, no ego, low key all that
he worked for a while in the NBA. I don't
know if Dan and again respect the hell out of Dan,
I don't know if he's gonna be able to change
enough to whereas he's going to be able to coach
these guys the way he wants to coach him.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
See my my, My perception of Dan at Yukon especially
recently is yes, he coaches them hard, but he's not
a crazy person. You know, Uh, he's not crazy for.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The the when the part, Doug is the part with
the fans in the in the in the officials like
that part of it is going to have to calm down.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like he can't be doing some of the stuff. Of course,
to Tony Brothers.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Tony Brothers will honestly toss him out of the game
in about three minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I don't think there's
any doubt that he's going to have to tone that down.
Can he can he handle a groom full of men?
Can he is Danny? Is Danny over himself enough to
where he can make it about them not about him?
That's the that's the biggest question. I think the answer
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is yes.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I'm man, he's smart dude. And again, you get
him off the court. You know this, Doug Like, is there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
A better guy to deal with like off the court
in terms of just having fun like like Lebron will
love him. They love Dan Hurley off the court because
you can you can screw around them, you can have
fun with him, you can you know, you can rip
on him, He'll rip on on your back all that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I just think you know, some of that stick has
the he's got to tone it down. And the other part,
for you know, the problem is no matter who that
is going to get that job. Doug Like, I just
don't know how how you can succeed with a forty
year old Lebron. But you're going to worry about whether
he's going to be healthy enough to make it through
the year. At some point, his body's probably gonna fail him.
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And Anthony Davis, whose body I know it's been better
the last couple of years, but whose body isn't exactly
you know, it's failed him plenty over the years. And
then you've got a bunch of just role players. So
I but but haven't said all that. If I'm Dan Hurly,
I take a shot off this thing, I absolutely take
a shot.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I would two wig the Lakers. You've won two two
titles and you have basically a whole new team for
next year. So it's not like he's leaving these kids.
That ers Caravan is the one kid He's like, man,
that would really suck. And I'm and I'm guessing though,
that they probably keep it in that in that same
family of all those guys on the bench.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm not so sure of that. I was with you
this morning on that I'm not so sure that they're
going to keep it in the family just to keep the.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Players Okay, I think would Kimani get it or who
would have the best shot? Kimani, I'm just telling you,
I don't I don't know. I understand, I understand. Who
of those two do you think would have the better shot?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Kime On he would have the better shot for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
He's the associate. He's been with Dan longer. Kimani Young
would be to me, if you're going to keep it
in house. But listen, if I'm a betting man, I'm
saying that, I'm now thinking they're probably not going to
keep it in house. If I had to guess, who
would it be?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The news the first call that that would make sense.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So my first call is Bruce Pearl. That's my first call.
New England guy, got the personality, got the fight.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Now, I don't know how old's Bruce? Now?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What's Bruce sixty three? That's the only worry, right, The
only worry is number one? How much does Bruce have
left in the tank to do this through David bennettict
the A d You don't want to have to make
another higher in three years. You don't really and I
don't know if Bruce has got more than three or
five left to do this and does Bruce really want
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to come up to Yukon and and deal with that?
Like he's got a good thing going to Auburn, He's
got a son there.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't know if you can get Steven the job
at Auburn yet.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'm not sure the deal.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
He's not written in the contract is the next head
coach yet. Maybe he can use it as leverage. Bruce
would be one Sean Miller, one.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
B for me.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay. I don't know if they go to Sean Miller out,
but okay, who else?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I mean, I can't come up with other names.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I don't know, Like there aren't a lot because most
of these guys they know it's his biot to seventeen
million Scott. There is not going from Baylor to stores.
We know that there's no shot of that one. You know,
Billy Donovan last I checked, he's still employed, And.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Uh, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
What about what about Speedy Claxton?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, I mean it's a jump, like you're not winning?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean I love Speedy, but that's a jump.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's a I mean you're gonna go speeding. You might
as well in Holloway.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, that's the other one.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, Like Shaheen would be good. I like Shaheen. Hehen's
done a good job. He'd be solid.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, again, it would be hard to leave your
alma mater and go in conference. I don't think it's
incredibly hard to leave your all moner because they're not
as well funded, but in conference that could be.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, harder, harder, harder, but you're gonna be My thought.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
My thought is though that that Danny and look, Danny
is a bit of a force of nature, but Danny was.
It wasn't like he was he did well at Rhode Island.
He wasn't killing the world at Rhode Island. But it
was more here's a Northeast guy. He's got that edge
to him. Four player in the Big East gets it.
Like I think she Heen and Speedy are those two
type of guys that that they that they could circle
(16:32):
in on. Obviously it would be completely different than how
Danny's done it, but they've both both been very successful
in their own right.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Totally totally. I just think those are those are second.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Tier sure, sure, but you're also doing the go after
the name thing, right. Bruce is a name, Bruce's a right,
Whereas don't.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You have to, don't you you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Did they go after her name when they hired Danny?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
They couldn't. There were the American that funny association.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I understand, I understand, I get I get that it's
different now, but you know.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The top five job again it is now. Dan Hurley
has elevated this thing where there probably aren't five more
sought after jobs in America right now? Now again follow.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now do you want to?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Do you want to follow a guy who went back
to back national titles?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean you got to find the right guy, right
like the right personality has the guy who's been again
at Auburn at Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh no, no, if you get Bruce, you get Bruce because
he's gonna he's he gets everybody into it. I just
don't know if Bruce, if that's what he wants.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
To do, Well, you can win a title at you can't?
Can you win a title at Auburn? I mean you've
gone to the final four?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Why can't you win a title at Auburn?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm asking you, I'm saying it's harder, it's harder to win.
But could you yes, this is always your thing when
I asked you, right like, can can they Yes, they can,
will they?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't think so fair fair, No, it's a it's
a fair point, real quick. Let's Celtics maps and I.
Jeff Goodman joined us year on the Doug Otlib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What's your level of faith that
Jason Tatum can play to the top level of his
(18:20):
game in this series?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Eleven of ten eleven of ten.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I'm not worried about.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Him at all at all. Seriously, I'm not worried about
Jason Tatum at all. I'm more worried about Jalen Brown.
Although I will say this, it's going to be really
interesting to see who Derek Jones is going to.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Be on who?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Because Derek Jones is an elite defender, right elite?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So do you throw him on? You start him on Tatum?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I assume you start PJ. Washington on Tatum, you start
Derek Jones on Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown hasn't seen anybody
even bad in the postseason this year, so that's going
to be the interesting one to me is Jalen Brown
Does he continue his play from last series?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
If he does, this is a rap.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
There's no way Dallas beats Boston if Jalen Brown plays
the way he did last series. I don't worry about Tatum.
The thing with Tatum that everybody needs to get over
is the dude just makes the right play so often.
Now Boston fans are never happy with what he does right.
And a couple of years ago is ah, he took
bat shots, didn't pass the ball enough, didn't find his teammates.
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Now that's all he does, and they yell at him
for not being as assertive. So he'll shoot the ball
better from three. But Jason Jana, I think the Celtics
win this and seven and Tatum wins MVP and showing
his all round game and condescending Kyrie, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you're just you're still better about Kyrie. Still better.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He is, Hey, Doug, Doug, I'm gonna give him the
credit he deserves. He actually guards now he doesn't. He
looked like for years he didn't guard anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, no, but now he all says Derek, Lively and
Gafford behind him, So that that helps you as it
helps you as well. Goodie. All right, Well we'll probably
touch basically again. If this happens, it becomes a real thing.
But right now, it's just preliminary stages. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Don's good nus.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's such. By the way, Jeff could have been not
calling me, coach. What's the deal? Did you good? Call?
Our best guess I'm kidding. Thanks for listening to The
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seem to be hot to trot in the possibility of
hiring Danny Hurley as their their deck's head coach. But
I was thinking about this, So the NBA is gonna
do something really really smart, right, TNT has been a
(21:21):
good partner. TNT doesn't have the money to go above
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so just like the NFL, it doesn't have to be exclusive,
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and you know, sit right behind the bench or sit
on the bench. I don't care. And then what you
can do is you get to where people get it
bit up. They were like, why don't we just split it?
You guys have been doing auction before. When people do that,
let's just split it's let me deal. Why make you know,
(22:53):
why make six thousand dollars on an auction item when
you can split it and make ten thousand dollars and
set them sell them both for for five or if
they both get to five in terms of the bidding, Hey,
hold on, let's just do this. Let's keep it at
five and we'll split it. We'll have two packages. That's
what the NBA is doing. If they break something off
to TNT, which is smart, you keep inside the NBA,
(23:16):
You keep t Turner, all their broadcasters, those people, they
do a really good job. You generate more money for
UH for the league. And oh yeah, by the way,
it doesn't really coroach on the other deals. The only
issue would be potentially is you know, like if you're
ESPN and you or your NBC or your Amazon, and
you want to develop a basketball show, that one's going
(23:39):
to outshine you because it's the best sports show on TV.
It's best sports you on TV. But I think that's brilliant, brilliant,
and it's a very easy solution. Uh. Danny Hurley's name
is all throughout the news. Danny's a friend, Danny's been
on the show. Danny's the head coach of the kott
(24:02):
Husky's they went back to back national titles, and apparently
now he's the main focus of the Lakers coaching search. Ironically,
this is Danny Hurley. He was on with Mike Francessa,
who's literally part of the most famous sports radio show
in the history of the industry. He was on Francessa
just yesterday in regards to the NBA.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I do aspire, you know, one day, if the if
the right NBA situation were to come along, I do aspire.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
To really really okay, you'd you'd like to take a
shot at the NBA if.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Right the right situation where an organization wants a tone
center to to to to come in and uh, you know,
and still a culture, you know, young players and an
organization that wants to pursue championships.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Have to be in the Northeast with your wife. And
would she I don't know if she'd go all over
the country.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Would she?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
She's the boss.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I mean again, he's now part of it is. We
don't know where they were in the discussions with it,
but yeah, I mean, if you want to come in
and bring a culture, if you're gonna let me coach,
why can't I do it? Well, we make it out
and it's so funny. So I've it's interesting the words
that he talked about culture. I'm not going to name
the name of where I am, but I'm in a
(25:25):
really really cool spot in wine country and I've gotten
to do this. I would say. The easiest way to
talk about is like a symposium and there's all these
wildly successful champions of business that were part of this thing,
and it was all talking about culture and how culture
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and purpose and when you're running organizations or you're starting
a new one, or how to fix organizations, and so
much of the breakdown is based upon their culture. And
it's interesting, you know, like the people who have been
here and it's all kind of wrapped up are all
successful and many of them been successful in different business ventures,
(26:08):
but all using the same aspects of how they build culture.
Like I say this all the time, it's really funny
because when I say it, there was actually a rocket scientist,
a man who had led NASA and he's built these
incredible telescopes and now he's just he's literally a rocket scientist.
(26:30):
And I always say that if basketball was rocket science,
they would be rocket scientists coaching it. But there is,
they're not. It isn't and I think that's you know,
and if you're Danny, you know, the only two jobs,
maybe three jobs you'd want won't be the Knicks, you know,
(26:50):
he's a Jersey kid who don't want to coach the Knicks,
and then Celtics and Lakers and nothing else really exists.
The rest are just NBA jobs. The Lakers that's different,
and there's a certain amount of I don't want to
say desperation, but there's a reality to the Lakers that, Okay,
(27:11):
post Lebron, it's going to be interesting. You got to
have like a legit coaching vision and culture and purpose
and way in which you do things. Instead, it's just
been hodgepodge for so long, right, just been a hodgepodge,
so instead go all in on somebody. But by going
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all in, they have to be proven as a coach,
as a communicator, as somebody who in this new kind
of era of player empowerment and enlightenment, you got to
be able to function well. College basketball, in many ways
is more difficult. You have lesser talented players, lesser educated players,
and shorter contracts, if you will, we're talking about one
(27:53):
year deals. Suppose to the NBA, the NBA would be
more stable than college basketball. And the big question is,
and you get over yourself, can you make it about
the players. I think Danny can. I think I think
Danny can
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have here? A bit of a plot twist. I woke
up today from a crazy number of uh of text messages,
a crazy number of text messages from friends in the
basketball industry, crazy number, and they're all like, is this real?
(01:10):
Is this real? Is this real? Like, I don't know
what you're talking about? And then I turned on the
Twitter machine. It was very early and I saw Woja's
tweet and I'm like, wait a second, didn't Shams just
say JJ Reddick? And I had heard that JJ Reddick
was or they were the Lakers are trying to reach
out to find staffing. So for JJ, so what possibly
(01:33):
could happen? Well, I can tell you what I have
a These are just this is just guesses, maybe educated guesses.
So the thing about trying to get a head coaching job,
and it took me a long time. The first time
I interviewed for a head coaching job was two thousand
and eight. It's twenty twenty four I got a head
(01:55):
coaching job. So I can tell you unequivocally that if
you are joined a discussion about becoming a head coach,
do you know what else you need? You need a
plan of execution, right first thirty days, first sixty days,
(02:15):
first nine days. Who are you gonna hire? And what
I had heard in regards in regards to JJ Reddick
was people around the Lakers were reaching out to see
who was interested in being on his staff. And you
had heard about the makeup potentially of the staff. So
here's my guess. Here's my guess is that there was
(02:40):
a good number of people that were like, you know,
what this might work? What's the plan? And JJ's plan
was like, I'll just we'll hire guys we'll hire a staff,
you know, we'll put it together. And I'm sure you
reach out to a couple of coaches. You know, James Barrego,
who's up to being potentially being a head coach, maybe
in Cleveland, doesn't want to be the assistant at a
(03:04):
place that he wanted to be the head coach, and
maybe he said no thanks, and at some point they said, wait,
this is not really a plan. This is an idea.
The idea is great. You gotta have the plan. You
have to you have to give people the view of
what it's gonna look like. You do it in recruiting.
(03:30):
I have to do it in recruiting. And last night
I was at this amazing dinner, and you know, I'm
constantly stepping out to make recruiting calls. And in recruiting
I don't have I mean, I can show people film
of my AAU team's playing, or my team's in Israel playing,
but I don't have this long resume. So what I
(03:50):
have to do is let me paint the picture of
what it's going to look like for you. Here's the
guys on my staff, here's the guys on my team.
Here's how we're going to play you have to project
this imaginary visual image of what it's going to be like.
And for JJ, he had an idea, of course, I
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can coach. And the truth is that in coaching, I
have no doubt that JJ Reddick could coach tomorrow in
the NBA and he'd be fine. He'd probably be really good.
But it's all of the other parts of coaching that
is missing, because you have to take people from the
(04:33):
place of hey, that's an interesting idea to what it
actually looks like and feels like and what the how
it's gonna all work together. So while that's taking place,
I'm sure there's the like, guys, what are we doing here?
(04:57):
You know, what are we doing here? And hey, did
you know Danny Hurley's new contract hasn't yet made? Did
you know that Lebron James supposedly this from Brian Wyndhorse
earlier today, told the Lakers don't pick a coach because
of me. Pick a coach for Anthony Davis and for beyond.
(05:19):
But Lebron wants to be coached. Anthony Davis wants to
be coached. And while you don't have an NBA championship
in your resume, the fact is that in order to
win in the NBA, you have to have the respect
of the locker room. To have the respect of the
locker room, you have to have won. And while most
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college coaches haven't done well stepping up to the NBA,
Larry Brown has. There have been others, but Danny has
only been truly successful the last two or three years.
Danny is still not Still he's over himself. He's never
been about him or about acting like his pen is
(06:01):
some magic pen. He knows how to give credit to
the players and to the other coaches, and to just
be a facilitator for this great program and kind of
be the entertainer on the sidelines. Danny, you can sit
with and say what would it look like for you
to be the head coach? And he because he's recruited,
(06:21):
because he's done it, because he sold the vision before,
that's an easy vision to sell in the future. My guess,
and again just a guess, is that JJ hiring JJ
was an idea, but there wasn't a vision for what
it would look like provided with that idea, he didn't
(06:44):
have the plan a place. I'm gonna hire this coach
and that coach and this coach, and here's we're going
to bring in personnel wise, and here's what we're going
to do for that other guy. JJ was like, I
want to coach Lebron likes me, He's got my respect.
You guys fill out that. You guys fill out the
coaching staff will make it work. What's it going to
look like? Just a guess, But my guess is that
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this feels like there's something to it. And oh yeah,
by the way, that doesn't mean this is a done deal.
You know, coaches have gone all the way to the
finish line. Coaches have taken jobs before. The one difference
is for Danny is he did tell his Yukon team
today that he was talking with the Lakers, and when
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you do that, you're opening up the potential for Pandora's
box because they got done with their workouts today and
I'm sure their phones are blowing up because you have
thirty days if your coach leeds to be in the portal,
and then they got to figure out who gets the job.
Probably somebody who's on staff, either Kamani Young or Luke Murray,
who gets to come with him, who stays, because those
(07:59):
are outside of the those two those are hardcore Yukon
guys that probably stay, and then what's Danny's vision for
his own staff? What does that look like? But we
have said that college basketball is more reflective of the
NBA now than it ever has been. And you have
(08:20):
a former player who does I understand when you look
him in the sideline you think he's a crazy person.
He's not that way towards his players. Towards his players
players is very different, demanding, but very different. And I'm
guessing that the vision is far easier to sell than
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Let's welcome in Jeff Goodman. He joins us here on
the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Of course
you can hear Field of sixty eight where every download podcast.
You can see him on Stadium Sports as well. Jeff,
let's your reaction to the news.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I was shocked, like everybody. I mean I just saw
them coupleicio in India. I've been texted with him and nothing, nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
So I was surprise because again, I mean, Tom's.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Just put out the three couple of days ago that
and everybody kind of thought it was just JJ Reddick
and that's why nothing had been done, right. They had
to wait for the NBA Finals to finish, for JJ
to finish doing his job, and then they were going
to announce JJ Redick as the next head coach of
the Lakers, and uh, you know this one's a little
bit shocking, only because I've always said, Doug, I don't
(10:25):
know if Dan Hurley translates to the NBA, and not
because of the ex's and o's. I mean, he's terrific
at that, we know that, but more because of the
ego involved and the fact that ken NBA guys handled
Dan Hurley. You know, like again, the college game, it's
all about the players in the in the in the
college game, it's all about the coaches. In the NBA game,
(10:47):
it's all about the players. I just don't know, like
Brad Stevens worked right, no ego, low key all that
he worked for a while in the NBA. I don't
know if Dan and again respect the hell out of Dan,
I don't know if he's gonna be able to change
enough to whereas he's going to be able to coach
these guys the way he wants to coach him.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
See my my, My perception of Dan at Yukon especially
recently is yes, he coaches them hard, but he's not
a crazy person. You know, Uh, he's not crazy for.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The the when the part, Doug is the part with
the fans in the in the in the officials like
that part of it is going to have to calm down.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like he can't be doing some of the stuff. Of course,
to Tony Brothers.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Tony Brothers will honestly toss him out of the game
in about three minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, look, I don't think there's
any doubt that he's going to have to tone that down.
Can he can he handle a groom full of men?
Can he is Danny? Is Danny over himself enough to
where he can make it about them not about him?
That's the that's the biggest question. I think the answer
(12:00):
is yes.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
But I'm man, he's smart dude. And again, you get
him off the court. You know this, Doug Like, is there.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
A better guy to deal with like off the court
in terms of just having fun like like Lebron will
love him. They love Dan Hurley off the court because
you can you can screw around them, you can have
fun with him, you can you know, you can rip
on him, He'll rip on on your back all that.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
I just think you know, some of that stick has
the he's got to tone it down. And the other part,
for you know, the problem is no matter who that
is going to get that job. Doug Like, I just
don't know how how you can succeed with a forty
year old Lebron. But you're going to worry about whether
he's going to be healthy enough to make it through
the year. At some point, his body's probably gonna fail him.
(12:48):
And Anthony Davis, whose body I know it's been better
the last couple of years, but whose body isn't exactly
you know, it's failed him plenty over the years. And
then you've got a bunch of just role players. So
I but but haven't said all that. If I'm Dan Hurly,
I take a shot off this thing, I absolutely take
a shot.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I would two wig the Lakers. You've won two two
titles and you have basically a whole new team for
next year. So it's not like he's leaving these kids.
That ers Caravan is the one kid He's like, man,
that would really suck. And I'm and I'm guessing though,
that they probably keep it in that in that same
family of all those guys on the bench.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm not so sure of that. I was with you
this morning on that I'm not so sure that they're
going to keep it in the family just to keep the.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Players Okay, I think would Kimani get it or who
would have the best shot? Kimani, I'm just telling you,
I don't I don't know. I understand, I understand. Who
of those two do you think would have the better shot?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Kime On he would have the better shot for sure.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
He's the associate. He's been with Dan longer. Kimani Young
would be to me, if you're going to keep it
in house. But listen, if I'm a betting man, I'm
saying that, I'm now thinking they're probably not going to
keep it in house. If I had to guess, who
would it be?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
The news the first call that that would make sense.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So my first call is Bruce Pearl. That's my first call.
New England guy, got the personality, got the fight.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Now, I don't know how old's Bruce? Now?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What's Bruce sixty three? That's the only worry, right, The
only worry is number one? How much does Bruce have
left in the tank to do this through David bennettict
the A d You don't want to have to make
another higher in three years. You don't really and I
don't know if Bruce has got more than three or
five left to do this and does Bruce really want
(14:46):
to come up to Yukon and and deal with that?
Like he's got a good thing going to Auburn, He's
got a son there.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I don't know if you can get Steven the job
at Auburn yet.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I'm not sure the deal.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
He's not written in the contract is the next head
coach yet. Maybe he can use it as leverage. Bruce
would be one Sean Miller, one.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
B for me.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Okay. I don't know if they go to Sean Miller out,
but okay, who else?
Speaker 4 (15:17):
I mean, I can't come up with other names.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I don't know, Like there aren't a lot because most
of these guys they know it's his biot to seventeen
million Scott. There is not going from Baylor to stores.
We know that there's no shot of that one. You know,
Billy Donovan last I checked, he's still employed, And.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Uh, what do you got?
Speaker 1 (15:37):
What about what about Speedy Claxton?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Oh, I mean it's a jump, like you're not winning?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean I love Speedy, but that's a jump.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
That's a I mean you're gonna go speeding. You might
as well in Holloway.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, that's the other one.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, Like Shaheen would be good. I like Shaheen. Hehen's
done a good job. He'd be solid.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know, again, it would be hard to leave your
alma mater and go in conference. I don't think it's
incredibly hard to leave your all moner because they're not
as well funded, but in conference that could be.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, harder, harder, harder, but you're gonna be My thought.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
My thought is though that that Danny and look, Danny
is a bit of a force of nature, but Danny was.
It wasn't like he was he did well at Rhode Island.
He wasn't killing the world at Rhode Island. But it
was more here's a Northeast guy. He's got that edge
to him. Four player in the Big East gets it.
Like I think she Heen and Speedy are those two
type of guys that that they that they could circle
(16:32):
in on. Obviously it would be completely different than how
Danny's done it, but they've both both been very successful
in their own right.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Totally totally. I just think those are those are second.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Tier sure, sure, but you're also doing the go after
the name thing, right. Bruce is a name, Bruce's a right,
Whereas don't.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You have to, don't you you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Did they go after her name when they hired Danny?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
They couldn't. There were the American that funny association.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I understand, I understand, I get I get that it's
different now, but you know.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The top five job again it is now. Dan Hurley
has elevated this thing where there probably aren't five more
sought after jobs in America right now? Now again follow.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now do you want to?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Now?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Do you want to follow a guy who went back
to back national titles?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean you got to find the right guy, right
like the right personality has the guy who's been again
at Auburn at Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh no, no, if you get Bruce, you get Bruce because
he's gonna he's he gets everybody into it. I just
don't know if Bruce, if that's what he wants.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
To do, Well, you can win a title at you can't?
Can you win a title at Auburn? I mean you've
gone to the final four?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Why can't you win a title at Auburn?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
I'm asking you, I'm saying it's harder, it's harder to win.
But could you yes, this is always your thing when
I asked you, right like, can can they Yes, they can,
will they?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I don't think so fair fair, No, it's a it's
a fair point, real quick. Let's Celtics maps and I.
Jeff Goodman joined us year on the Doug Otlib Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What's your level of faith that
Jason Tatum can play to the top level of his
(18:20):
game in this series?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Eleven of ten eleven of ten.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I'm not worried about.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Him at all at all. Seriously, I'm not worried about
Jason Tatum at all. I'm more worried about Jalen Brown.
Although I will say this, it's going to be really
interesting to see who Derek Jones is going to.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Be on who?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Because Derek Jones is an elite defender, right elite?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So do you throw him on? You start him on Tatum?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I assume you start PJ. Washington on Tatum, you start
Derek Jones on Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown hasn't seen anybody
even bad in the postseason this year, so that's going
to be the interesting one to me is Jalen Brown
Does he continue his play from last series?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
If he does, this is a rap.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
There's no way Dallas beats Boston if Jalen Brown plays
the way he did last series. I don't worry about Tatum.
The thing with Tatum that everybody needs to get over
is the dude just makes the right play so often.
Now Boston fans are never happy with what he does right.
And a couple of years ago is ah, he took
bat shots, didn't pass the ball enough, didn't find his teammates.
(19:27):
Now that's all he does, and they yell at him
for not being as assertive. So he'll shoot the ball
better from three. But Jason Jana, I think the Celtics
win this and seven and Tatum wins MVP and showing
his all round game and condescending Kyrie, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you're just you're still better about Kyrie. Still better.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
He is, Hey, Doug, Doug, I'm gonna give him the
credit he deserves. He actually guards now he doesn't. He
looked like for years he didn't guard anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
No, no, but now he all says Derek, Lively and
Gafford behind him, So that that helps you as it
helps you as well. Goodie. All right, Well we'll probably
touch basically again. If this happens, it becomes a real thing.
But right now, it's just preliminary stages. Thanks for our guest.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Don's good nus.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's such. By the way, Jeff could have been not
calling me, coach. What's the deal? Did you good? Call?
Our best guess I'm kidding. Thanks for listening to The
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go to live auctions or you ever a place there's
a live auction. I was thinking about this, and we'll
get to the news of the day, which is Lakers
seem to be hot to trot in the possibility of
hiring Danny Hurley as their their deck's head coach. But
I was thinking about this, So the NBA is gonna
do something really really smart, right, TNT has been a
(21:21):
good partner. TNT doesn't have the money to go above
the NBC bid, above the ESPN bid, above the Amazon bid. Okay,
so just like the NFL, it doesn't have to be exclusive,
like break them off a little piece. You know, have
your have the NBA basketball on a bunch of different places,
and this way you keep inside the NBA brilliant. But
(21:44):
this is a lot like have you ever seen this
with auction items? And I know this because you guys
have marked your calendar. I believe it's July twenty second,
we have our first we have our golf tournament at
I think it's a rebake country club, and you know
we'll have We're gonna have unbelievable things to auction off,
(22:07):
like for example, and I don't think we've talked about
this the show. Our first game is going to be
November fourth against my old modern Okle mistake. Like that's
pretty cool, So you know you want to come on there.
We got like, hey, we're going to auction off a
trip for two people. You get to ride with me
and do whatever I do. We have a dinner the
(22:29):
night before the game. We'll probably do more than that,
and you know, sit right behind the bench or sit
on the bench. I don't care. And then what you
can do is you get to where people get it
bit up. They were like, why don't we just split it?
You guys have been doing auction before. When people do that,
let's just split it's let me deal. Why make you know,
(22:53):
why make six thousand dollars on an auction item when
you can split it and make ten thousand dollars and
set them sell them both for for five or if
they both get to five in terms of the bidding, Hey,
hold on, let's just do this. Let's keep it at
five and we'll split it. We'll have two packages. That's
what the NBA is doing. If they break something off
to TNT, which is smart, you keep inside the NBA,
(23:16):
You keep t Turner, all their broadcasters, those people, they
do a really good job. You generate more money for
UH for the league. And oh yeah, by the way,
it doesn't really coroach on the other deals. The only
issue would be potentially is you know, like if you're
ESPN and you or your NBC or your Amazon, and
you want to develop a basketball show, that one's going
(23:39):
to outshine you because it's the best sports show on TV.
It's best sports you on TV. But I think that's brilliant, brilliant,
and it's a very easy solution. Uh. Danny Hurley's name
is all throughout the news. Danny's a friend, Danny's been
on the show. Danny's the head coach of the kott
(24:02):
Husky's they went back to back national titles, and apparently
now he's the main focus of the Lakers coaching search. Ironically,
this is Danny Hurley. He was on with Mike Francessa,
who's literally part of the most famous sports radio show
in the history of the industry. He was on Francessa
just yesterday in regards to the NBA.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I do aspire, you know, one day, if the if
the right NBA situation were to come along, I do aspire.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
To really really okay, you'd you'd like to take a
shot at the NBA if.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
Right the right situation where an organization wants a tone
center to to to to come in and uh, you know,
and still a culture, you know, young players and an
organization that wants to pursue championships.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Have to be in the Northeast with your wife. And
would she I don't know if she'd go all over
the country.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Would she?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
She's the boss.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I mean again, he's now part of it is. We
don't know where they were in the discussions with it,
but yeah, I mean, if you want to come in
and bring a culture, if you're gonna let me coach,
why can't I do it? Well, we make it out
and it's so funny. So I've it's interesting the words
that he talked about culture. I'm not going to name
the name of where I am, but I'm in a
(25:25):
really really cool spot in wine country and I've gotten
to do this. I would say. The easiest way to
talk about is like a symposium and there's all these
wildly successful champions of business that were part of this thing,
and it was all talking about culture and how culture
(25:46):
and purpose and when you're running organizations or you're starting
a new one, or how to fix organizations, and so
much of the breakdown is based upon their culture. And
it's interesting, you know, like the people who have been
here and it's all kind of wrapped up are all
successful and many of them been successful in different business ventures,
(26:08):
but all using the same aspects of how they build culture.
Like I say this all the time, it's really funny
because when I say it, there was actually a rocket scientist,
a man who had led NASA and he's built these
incredible telescopes and now he's just he's literally a rocket scientist.
(26:30):
And I always say that if basketball was rocket science,
they would be rocket scientists coaching it. But there is,
they're not. It isn't and I think that's you know,
and if you're Danny, you know, the only two jobs,
maybe three jobs you'd want won't be the Knicks, you know,
(26:50):
he's a Jersey kid who don't want to coach the Knicks,
and then Celtics and Lakers and nothing else really exists.
The rest are just NBA jobs. The Lakers that's different,
and there's a certain amount of I don't want to
say desperation, but there's a reality to the Lakers that, Okay,
(27:11):
post Lebron, it's going to be interesting. You got to
have like a legit coaching vision and culture and purpose
and way in which you do things. Instead, it's just
been hodgepodge for so long, right, just been a hodgepodge,
so instead go all in on somebody. But by going
(27:32):
all in, they have to be proven as a coach,
as a communicator, as somebody who in this new kind
of era of player empowerment and enlightenment, you got to
be able to function well. College basketball, in many ways
is more difficult. You have lesser talented players, lesser educated players,
and shorter contracts, if you will, we're talking about one
(27:53):
year deals. Suppose to the NBA, the NBA would be
more stable than college basketball. And the big question is,
and you get over yourself, can you make it about
the players. I think Danny can. I think I think
Danny can
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Doug Gottlieb
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