June 10, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug reacts to the breaking news that UConn head coach Dan Hurley is staying at Uconn and turning down the chance to coach the Los Angeles Lakers. Doug gives his thoughts on game two of the NBA Finals. Doug welcomes NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to give his reaction to Dan Hurley turning down the Lakers to stay at UConn. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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be I picture Danny Hurley walking in doing the Wolf
of Wall Street thing. I'm not leaving right. The show
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goes on, and here's the thing. Do you know what
maturity really is? Like how you would define mature. There's
a lot of different ways to do it. I've often
said that that when you mature is when you stop
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pointing fingers outward and you start pointing the fingers inward.
I screwed that up. That's me and you actually mean it.
You don't say it just so to get people off
your back. You're like, yeah, by butchered that. I don't
know what I was thinking. I screwed that one up, right,
Immature people blame everybody else. That's what children do, and
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Johnny was doing it now the cop was well, the
cop pulled me over. Everybody was speeding, like no, no, no,
you were you speeding? Yes? But everybody no, no, no, but
what are you speeding? Yes? They put me over. Well,
But another part of maturity is understanding that you're not
for everybody right, and even the people you used to
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be four maybe they've gone a different way. It's a
hard concept to accept because we all instinctively want to
be liked, like I'm somebody who I make no bones
about it, Like I don't truly truly care about if
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everybody likes me. But I don't want to be disliked
by a lot of people. I like to be liked,
but I like to be like for who I am.
I don't want to be fake about it. I don't
have to be nice. I don't have to change the
way I drive or the way I dress. I want
to be me and authentically me, But I still want
people to like, respect and appreciate me. But here's the
sentence that you need to know if you want to
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be somebody who I view as mature. I'm not for everybody.
That's okay. It doesn't always feel good sometimes it feels
like rejection, but not for everybody. And you know what,
Danny Earley's not for everybody. He's probably not really for
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thekers now. Danny Hurley is a great basketball coach. He's
also a really good person and friend. Right, Like, if
I get fired next year from Green Bay and I
want to keep coaching, like I'll call Danny and Danny
will be like, you know what, I'll get your job,
or my brother gets you a job, or somebody gets
your job, because that's they take good people, take care
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of good people. Danny's a great coach, he's a good
person and a good friend. Lebron James and I understand
that there's some all there's plenty of things that we
could pick apart about Lebron that we don't like, and
he does do the I didn't get anybody fired when
it did. But Lebron James wants to be coach and
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he's a great player, and the opportunity there was to
be his last coach. The Lakers are historically the greatest
basketball franchise in the history of the NBA. The Celtics
may win. Title number was eighteen, but like, and the
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Celtics is sit there, go like, well, hold on how
many of those titles were in Minnesota and how many
were Okay, fine, but in the modern era of the NBA,
since Larry Bird is not walking through that door, and
Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert
Parris is not walking you got one NBA title.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Larry Bird's not walking through that door.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, he's not.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The Lakers are the greatest organization, historic organization in the
history of the sport, in the number two media market,
in one of, if not the greatest city in the world.
And I love New York and I love Boston. I'm
sending a daughter to go to to go to school
in Boston. I love it. But let's be honest, New
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York for about two three weeks in the summer is
uninhabitable because it's so hot and humid. And about two
or three weeks in the winter uninhabitable. It's because it's
so cold. Same thing you can say for the cold
in Boston. The heat's not really a problem. It's beautiful
in the summer, incredible in the fall, but the cold
is ridiculous. There's not a day that's uninhabitable in Los Angeles.
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And you can tell me all this stuff about taxes.
I've lived in Connecticut. The taxes are hefty there too.
He's not taking that job because of one reason doesn't fit.
Of course, the Lakers screwed up. You can't let him
walk out that door. He comes into La he comes
to negotiate, he doesn't walk out that door. Any of
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you who are listening, who are in sales, especially car sales,
you're sitting there, not in your head, you know the
deal that you walk out of the dealership, good luck
while you have him sitting there. Whatever it takes to
get them to agree to that deal. He goes to
New York to Madison Square Garden to a Billy Joel show.
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It was over right then and there, over right then there.
Did you know I don't know what, miss Did you
know that Billy Joel has his number retired? Not just
in Madison Square Garden, but I believe, I believe, and
I used to be called the Excel Center. I don't
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know what it's called in Hartford because he's played there
that many times. Billy Joel is New York, he is
Long Island, he is East Coast, and so is Danny
Hilt And he goes into the garden. Once you go
into the garden, you're like, dude, it's the garden and
the tirades on the sidelines, the back and forth with
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the fans, the making of the faces. His dad's a
legend in Jersey. He's a Jersey shore guy in the summer.
This is not that hard to track. It ain't about money. Well,
the Lakers only offered him seventy million dollars, just to
you know, the Lakers traditionally like to offer three year
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contracts the head goaes. They offered him six. They extended themselves.
And no, the Lakers are not a perfect organization. They're
incredibly cheap to people who aren't the players. But they're
trying to combat that. And six years, seventy million dollars
is that's money you can retire on. And he could
have come back and coached in college or whatever you
want it afterwards. It wasn't about the money. You don't
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turn down or take a job simply because of the money.
It's the where do I fit? Where do I fit?
And Danny Hurley's a guy that's been overlooked and made
to feel as though he's not as good as his
brother or wasn't as special as his dad. And he's
at a school that embraces that. He's in a league
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in the Big East that embraces that they embrace all
the uniqueness that is Danny. He's not for everybody, but
he's for Yukon and he's for the Big East, and
it fits. I don't know what my I mean. Like, Listen,
I grew up in Los Angeles. I didn't necessarily even
like the Lakers, but the Lakers called tomorrow like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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take that one. But that's because I grew up in
Southern California. I've lived in Southern California the last seven years.
I lived between the ages of six and nineteen, right
and then one year in between. So I mean, you
do the math. Probably twenty years of my life I've
lived in Southern California. I'm super comfortable with it. I
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like New York. New York's great energy to me, but
and I would go back there every summer. But I
can't tell you that I'm like a New Yorker. I
can fake it. I don't like the Yankees, I don't
like the Rangers. I know this world is about fit.
Maturity is about knowing that you're not for everybody, and
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lean into the people who get you, who like you.
Surround yourself with those people. And when you're Danny Hurley,
who's gone from high school to Wagner to Rhode Island
to Yukon to back to back national titles, I get it. Like, look,
he's gonna have to create a whole new team next year.
He's got like one starter back, two rotation guys back.
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If there's ever a chance to leave, now's the chance.
The Lakers call. That's a hard it's a hard phone
call to put down, Like the Lakers just called and
offered me a job. And then you go there and
you walk down the hallway, and you see a hallway
when you walk into the Lakers facility and there's a
picture of George Miken and Will Chamberlain and Kareem and
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Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Magic Johnson,
Big Game, James Worthy and Byron Scott and Michael Cooper,
and then you walk further down the hallway, and you
see Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neil and Derek Fisher with
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point seven seconds to go, and Pau Gasol and Lebron
James and seventeen banners of their own, and Phil Jackson's
coach there, and pat Riley's coach there, and you're sitting
there going, wait, this could all be mine, It's gonna
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all be yours. But he's from Jersey Lake, her guy, right.
And when you catch your breath and you check yourself
and you find out where you fit, you go. You
know what, Let me lean into people who get me,
let me lean into where I fit. I think that's
why Danny Stamm give me your thoughts at Gottlieb Show,
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Speaker 1 (10:54):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Speaking of Billy Joel, Uh,
we were talking about Billy Joel because Bobby Hurley went
to Bobby. Danny Hurley went to the Billy Joel concert
was that Saturday night or after meet with the Lakers
on Friday. Favorite Billy Joel song.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Sam I'd have to save my life.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, let me alone about you there? Uh, Dan Byer
favorite Billy Joel song, Allanown, Allentown, great song, Allentown. Uh,
Jason Stewart, we did that.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
We did this exact exchange about three weeks ago. Mine
has not changed. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah,
we did. Dan, was it three or four weeks ago? Yeah,
something like that. It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'll tell you DejaVu, DejaVu you uh do you remember
what mine was?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I don't. Piano man, no, that's too.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Obten no, No, New York state of mind, New York
state of Mine, and Anthony song which is moving out
would be would be number two. So uh, but I
mean there's an Uptown girls great. Piano Man's great. He
actually wrote I believe he wrote Shameless, which is my
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favorite Garth Brooks song. Anyway, Billie Joel pretty good. Celtics
also pretty good. They're up two games none on the
Dallas Mavericks. I would say disappointing series too. You know
last night's game was competitive, really competitive and compelling. Game
one was it got competitive in the second half. But man,
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when you're just when you're getting sillacked at the end
of the first quarter into halftime, it's really hard, you know,
especially in a weekday game, to really pay attention to it.
I do think that it's one of those deals where
for so long, one we considered the Eastern Conference weaker,
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but two we've come to believe that the regular season
doesn't really matter. That we shouldn't have seen this coming.
But the South is for the best team in the
regular season, and when they had Persingis and they may
not have Persingis hooping forwards, he's having as you heard
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from Dan Byer, some was it not preliminary precautionary examination.
But when they have prezingis like, that's the best roster
and the best team in the NBA shouldn't be a surprise.
But man, have they defended and have they figured out
ways to attack Luca on defense and then not let
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anybody else going on offense. Here's just Joe Mizoula talking
about Jason Tatum's impact on the team.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Jason makes greatness look easy. He does it in a
lot of different ways. He does it in defense, does
it rebounding, does it on passing, does it on screening.
He's a tremendous player. Hard to coach him, and he
has the ability to affect a game in different ways.
We're a different team, but it takes everybody to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Here's Jason Tatum on how he's played so far.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
I've been here before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
for my need to score all the points to get
in the way of that. There are going to be
times where you know, I need to score and obviously
I need to shoot better. Yeah, Lee, But we always
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talk about, dude, whatever it takes, for however long it takes.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, I think like, look, we're making Jason Tatum and
his assists last night to be heroic. He was six
of twenty two from the field. Right, He's still but
maybe that makes it more impressive. The Celtics have played
really well and he hasn't shot the ball well yet
at all. Hasn't shot the ball well yet at all.
And I've said that previously about series where Hey, there's
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gonna be a game where Luka Doncik wins a game
on his own. There'll be a game which Jason Tatum
breaks through. This one feels a lot like the Warriors series.
You know, the Warriors had a couple of series like
this with you know, before they had KD and then
when they went last time to beat the Celtics, where
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first a couple of games you keep Steph in check
and people are like, wholla, can Steph Curry even be
the MVP? And then all of a sudden he breaks
out of it, like, Okay, Steph Curry is amazing and
that's happened previously. I feel like we're gonna have that.
But how can he not be impressed by what the
Celtics are doing at both ends of the floor. And
then you got to point out Luca. I get that
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you're all banged up and bandaged up and you look
like the human bruised and Tom Peabody, but man, he
hadn't guarden anybody at all in this series and they're
picking on him. That's what they do in the NBA.
All right, s Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
We'll get with Rick Buker in moments he'll join us.
I'm sure he's got a ton of work to do
with the with the news that Danny Hurley is not
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going to be the Lakers head coach, and so the
question becomes, do they turn back to JJ Reddick Let me,
let's welcome him in. It's covered the NBA for as
long as I've been in the profession. He's Rick Buker.
He works for Fox Sports one and Fox Sports dot Com. Buke,
what's what's your reaction to Danny Hurley turning down a
reported six years, seventy million dollars deal to be the
Lakers head coach.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
My first thought is, man, does this look bad for
the Lakers? And that but that they lived up to
their reputation of low balling coaches and not spending on
the staff, and you know, where they go from here
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is going to feel like a Plan CD or F.
When you think about the Los Angeles Lakers and how
iconic that franchise is, it's it's a little it's a
little mind boggling. But for six I think the offer
was six years, seventy million, eleven million, while you know
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it was reported that that would put him in the
top six. It's about the overall average of what NBA
coaches are making, and for Hurley to make the leap
from Yukon to LA and all that he would have
to deal with, I just felt it was going to
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have to be a can't refuse type number. And that
was the number that was being thrown around in a
lot of places, talking closer to one hundred milie and so,
you know, without that not really when I saw the
when I saw the number that there was offered, I
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was like, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that Hurley
didn't go for that. Yukon, he had a deal sitting
on the table that he had not signed. I'm told
that the deal that he is going to sign now
has been sweetened that puts him more in line with
Bill self, who's who's making ten mil and you know,
the top two or three guys. So I feel like
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this is a gambit that I'm not sure it was
going to work, but the Lakers needed to make it happen.
That they needed this to happen because anything else, any
other candidate they've had, I'm not sure that Dan Hurley
would have worked, but I could have made a case
where it's had far better chance of working than any
of the other names that I've heard so far.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, there's a lot there. Let's let's and look, I
did the Laker No, No, but I mean, like I
agree and I disagree on some level, Okay, I agree
in that. Yeah, you got to give him an offer
you can't refuse, right, you go to the Godfather. On
the other hands, like normally they were doing three year
deals and four year deals, six years to them. That's
a big thing, right, that's that's a big thing. So
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in the Lakers, percidors like dude, like this guy has
never coached today in the NBA, and and it was
a curious fit. Right. It's one of those where all
these things can be. Lebron can want to be coached,
and the Lakers want a legit coach and they want
somebody to take them into the next century as a coach.
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But Guinny does not feel like the Lakers head coach,
nor does he feel like a guy, nor does his
offense or style feel like it. Really joss with with
with with Lebron.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Dred percent olderess. But my thought always was was is
that the long term deal? Because you were going to
have him, you know, usher you through the remainder of
the Lebron era, and then this was really about post
Lebron and I was told that Lebron was infatuated with
the idea of of Hurley coaching Broni, and that that
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was one of the the attractive elements to it. I agree.
I agree with you, like I'm watching Pate of Yukon
and not one of his players. It's like a cattle product.
If you dribbled the ball three times.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You're the map.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Its almost look like a team rule. We don't dribble
the ball more than three times. Nobody stands still more
than a second. Like and being able to find the
players to be able to play that system effectively at
the NBA level, it's generally you don't. You don't come
in with a system in the NBA. You come in
and you look at the personnel that you can hand
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it and you figure out what system you can play
with that. And I don't know that. I mean, Dan's
to this point has not demonstrated that he can do that.
He's very good at finding the players to make his
system work. I don't know that that would work at
the NBA level. But let's stop and take a step back.
If you're the Lakers and you're saying, yeah, we don't
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think that's going to work, why are you even entertaining?
Why are you going down this road?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, so let me let me ask you this. Are
we to buy the story that this was their plan
a all along? Because because I gotta tell you last week,
at the start of the week, I was told by
I was called by a couple of people who are
assistant coaches who are out of work. They're like, hey,
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do you know JJ, because I heard they're trying to
find assistance to fit with to fit with him, And
then all of a sudden Friday, it's like, this is
their plan all along. So what happened with the JJ thing.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Well, they were they What I understand is that they
were struggling to find the coaching staff. They knew that
they needed to find the right coaching staff for this
to work with JJ, and they weren't able to find
the kind of guys getting My understanding is with James Borrego,
the guys who had the experiences they felt comfortable, could
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could be his, could be the cabbies, could be could
make this work, and so they got stuck and they
started looking, Okay, so what else can we do? And
they got word that Hurley had a offer on his
desk that he had not signed, and they had not.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's exactly what I thought. This is exactly this is
exactly what I was told happened. Which is which is
they thought, Hey, like the JJ thing, this fight work.
Who else is available? Like you know, I heard Bobby Hurley,
I'm Danny Hurley unsigned his deal like really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
And so and so that's what led them down that
road to to explore that. And then you know, I'm
not going to get into the ins and outs of
how our league is reported on these days. But then
it became a matter of trying to make somebody look
bad for saying that they were zeroing in on JJ Reddick.
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And and so let's take it another level and say
he was never the case when or he was never
the primary target. When if that was the case, then
then it should have somebody should have been reporting that
Dan Hurley was plan A and that didn't happen until
what like three four days ago. So I just there's
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a lot of machinations behind the scenes on as there
always are with the with the Lakers that have colored
how this story has gone. But for me, the bottom
line is like the Lakers are just too storied of
a franchise to be sitting here in June with not
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I mean, it's one thing for Cleveland not to have
their head coach. It's completely other thing for the Lakers
to have explored various options and not have a ready made,
like obvious choice that that they should be going after
and that should want to coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So is it now JJ's job?
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I wish I could tell you. I Mean, it just
seems like can they That's such a face planned if
you have to turn back to that and then make
the best of it that you can. And then there's
the weird there's the whole weird thing of JJ, you know,
coming after the report that uh you know that they
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were zeroing in on him, and it, uh, it just
gets really murky. So like I have not heard another name,
I have not heard who the target is at this point,
so by default, I mean the only other name I've
heard is like, are they going to go after Jay Wright? Now?
And but I mean that's the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Only guy likes the Jersey Shore more than Danny Hurley
is Jay Wright.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, So I'm not giving that any crazies. I'm
just telling you, like, that's where we are. Like I
think people are just throwing names at the wall to
say hey, but again, that's kind of how we got
to Danny Hurley. So who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I mean, I just I just still bother with my mind.
We're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers, I know, and
and we're in this place where it's like who can
we get to coach? Just think about this, this is
what we are talking about. Who can we get to
coach the Los Angeles Lakers? And it's an extraordinary place
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to be that would be one thing. Or like who
can who would be willing to coach the Charlotte Hornets?
How much are we gonna have to pay them? That
that the separation for those who may are listening and
may not understand, Los Angeles Lakers shouldn't have to be
scrambling to find somebody to take their job, and yet
it feels like that is exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How much blame do we put on lebron.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Uh? I mean I can't, I can't in this case
just because whatever blame you would put on him, he
is being he is being afforded that influence by the Lakers,
and uh and so I'm not. And from what I
know of how Lebron approaches these things is it's a
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very passive, aggressive approach. He's not going to tell you
who he wants specifically or whatever. He's not going to say, hey,
get this guy and I'll be happy. You just find out,
like he's gonna let you hire you want to hire,
and then when it doesn't work, he'll let you know
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or he'll let the world know. But it's never it's
never an overt conversation about this is the guy that
I want. He'll he'll give you, he'll he'll give you
a sense of where he wants you to go, but
it's not it's not definitive. And then he's got plausible
deniability when it's when it doesn't work. So in all
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of this, I just I don't like whatever Lebron has
done over the course of his career, in whatever places
he's done it. I always look at management and say, well,
you you gave him that cachet, You gave him that
ability to tell you raide the farm for Anthony Davis. So,
am I really gonna Am I going to blame Lebron
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when it's it's ultimately you that are pulling the trigger?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No? I I look, I wouldn't blame him for the
Hurley thing, but the fact that it's going to be
really hard for them to find a coach I do
think is he's he's a huge factor in that.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Well, now that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, I understand, I understand, Like I'm not. I'm not
I'm not in any way, uh, diminishing your answer on
the Hurley thing. I'm simply voarding the conversation.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
No. But but I'm I'm not blaming Lebron for whatever
happens in terms of who they hire as a head coach,
because ultimately it's the Lakers, not Lebron, hiring that head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yes, but and and yes, but but it's the do
you do you want to deal with the Lebronny thing?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Like, well, do you now?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's that's all you got to do with lebron thing?
Like like you said, like I he's not going to
move on offense, right, that's a hard one. You know,
his agency, his agency, reps, you know, kind of half
the team, he's wieled his power and then like you're
gonna have to know only bring his son up and
then play him.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah, well this was the thing for me. It was
it was like when I was talking to a bunch
of different people in the league about like, do you
think that this Hurly thing could work? And they were like,
you know what what happens? Like one executives like I'm
just waiting for the time when you know, Hurley's drawing
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something on the clipboard and Lebron rips it out of
his hands, And I was like, I'm waiting for the
times that Lebron doesn't rotate on defense and he's coming
off the floor and Hurley's yelling at him, Like because
all of that, if Hurley stays true to form and
Lebron stays two to deform, all of those things were
going to happen eventually. And then you throw the whole
Bronny thing in. Yeah, no, I'm not I'm not saying
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that it's I think this job is not as attractive
because of the Lebron Bronni factor that anybody coming in
is going to have to handle. But that's different than
do I blame Lebron for the fact that they haven't
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been able to hire a head coach yet. There's a
distinction for me between the question no question.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Last thing is just kind of a quick one. Who
do we give the most credit on the Celtics too?
Does that have to be a player to be coach?
I would give it to Brad. I think it's an
incredibly put together roster. But I don't want to diminish Missoula.
He's done a great job with them, and I think
they have really, really good players. I think I think
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the Drew Holiday, for example, is somebody who like, statistically
you don't understand basketball, but he's better than Lillard. He's
a better basketball player. He helps the affects winning more.
But again, I think that's Brad. But what about you?
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Yeah, well, look, he put the ideal pieces around his
core of Brown and Tatum. With Drew Holiday and christophs
porzingis just filled two massive holes and personality wise, they
were perfect editions. But I think this is the difficulty
is like trying to the pinpoint one particular person, because
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I think what has made the Celtics so strong is
that everybody is willing to take a part and not
be the guy Mizula has been shrewd in this series.
I give him that he's made some really deaf moves
and how he's he's handled things, and he's done a
couple of simple things that previous coaches, supposedly more experience,
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did not do. But hatum being happy. You know, like, Okay,
I go six for twenty two. But I will, I
will continue to be aggressive and I'll it looks clunky.
He's not a natural passer, but he's giving up the
ball and he's finding guys and he's got guys who
can knock down. So I just credit I credit them
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across the board. I think it has been a collective effort.
It's really hard for me to take one person and
put them above the rest. If you did that with anybody,
who probably would be brat because he's put this whole
conglomer together.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Awesome stuff. Buke, good Mark, thanks for joining us. Really
appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
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He joined us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
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we handed over to Dan Byer. He gets us through
all the stories today by playing the game.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Dan Buyer, what's the game today, Doug?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The game is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That's
Celtics for Christops Porzingis is getting some imaging done. Hons
is your leg that forced him to leave last night's
game with about five minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think it's a big deal. I just do because
I think what happens is inevitably you get it checked
out and then you probably shut them down for a
game and say we're up two games none. They're not
the same team without Prazingis, They're just not. So I
think it's a big.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All right, Moving on more Game two stuff though, big deal,
a little dealer no deal that no follow is called
on Jalen Brown against PJ. Washington late in last night's
Game two.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The push yes, uh, that's a big deal. Camas that one,
Camas that one. Now. The other part, too, is he's
being celebrated as a block but he he got hung
he hit the front rim, and he probably hit the
front rim. It's like, oh he got got Yeah, he
got pushed in the back. That's why. That's why sure
that that'll that'll do it. That'll cause you to miss
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that shot. So it was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And there's there's no guarantee, by the way that the
Mavericks PJ. Washington would make the free throws, considering this
a bit of a bugaboo last night for him. But
uh but yeah, still in that would have made it
a three point game. Yeah, pretty big deal, all right,
big deal, little dealer, no deal, Doug that Darvin Ham
is back to being an assistant coach again as he's
going back to Milwaukee to be the lead assistant for
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Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Uh, it's a big deal. I'm not going to diminish that.
I think it's a pretty big deal. Like it's a
weird fit too, because he's not going back to Bud
He's going to Uh, he's going to Doc Rivers. So
it feels like the organization wanted him back and then
took him back like that. One's it's weird. Yeah, did
not receive rave reviews from people I know with the Lakers.
(34:18):
In terms of the actual coaching, he's just more of
a like motivational, play hard kind of guy. And I
don't know what that brings to Milwaukee, but maybe because
it worked before, because he was well regarded there before,
maybe it works now.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Maybe the case is well of who knows if you'll
get another head coaching opportunity, But you know, sometimes those
coaches you know will move on to another head coaching
gig or move back to the Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
The hardest thing is, and like everybody knows this for
any job they apply to, right, but the hardest thing
to get when you apply for head coach job is
do you have head coaching experience? Yes? I do, so
I think there's a chance, yeah, a good chance he
gets another coaching job, you know, especially how many guys
have tried to coach Lebron and have it worked out,
and so there'd be some sort of pass given there.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Sure, big deal, little dealer, no deal that the Pittsburgh
Steelers gave Mike Tomlin a three year extension that now
goes through the twenty twenty seventh season.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's big because you know, we the Tomlin could retire,
could do TV, could get fired, thing has been kind
of two years of talk in the making. So yeah,
I think I feel like that's a big story, big deal.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He's the longest tenured coach in the NFL now with
Bill Belichick no longer employed. So he's about to enter
his eighteenth season, the next longest.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Oh wait, wit can I guess?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah? Yeah, go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay, this is okay, So my brain works, I go
east to west. It's going to take a sa.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Wait does I always say do you know the answer? Iowa, Sam,
don't say it, but if.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You know it, the second longest tenure in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yes, I know the answer. But okay, so you don't. No,
that's okay, Doug scanning my brain.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But go Aheadah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Kyle Shanahan, Okay, are you guys good with that?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You guys, I didn't really go through the whole league
like it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
How about to Andy and Kansas City? Okay? You like
Andy Reid?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah? Andy Reed has been there longer.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Both are wrong answers. Andy has been there longer.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, hold, hold le let's see here. Okay, So AFC East,
hold on NFC East Cowboys, No, Washington no Giants, no Eagles, No,
I don't know. Give it to me.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I don't have John Harbaugh. I'd go to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh, I forgot. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wow. Andy Reid's third. And then actually there's a bunch
of twenty seventeen hires and it all depends on when
you were actually hired. But that would be McDermott, Sean McVay,
and Kyle Shanahan. All of that's like, yeah, all right,
big deal, little deal or no deal, Doug. That Darren
Waller announced his retirement from the NFL this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's like a big deal. It's like a big deal, right,
he went like, super disappointing season. Uh well, married, super
disappointing season, divorced rap song and retired. That's that's a
that's a very interesting thirteen months or so.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And that's game time.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
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goes on, and here's the thing. Do you know what
maturity really is? Like how you would define mature. There's
a lot of different ways to do it. I've often
said that that when you mature is when you stop
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pointing fingers outward and you start pointing the fingers inward.
I screwed that up. That's me and you actually mean it.
You don't say it just so to get people off
your back. You're like, yeah, by butchered that. I don't
know what I was thinking. I screwed that one up, right,
Immature people blame everybody else. That's what children do, and
(01:29):
Johnny was doing it now the cop was well, the
cop pulled me over. Everybody was speeding, like no, no, no,
you were you speeding? Yes? But everybody no, no, no, but
what are you speeding? Yes? They put me over. Well,
But another part of maturity is understanding that you're not
for everybody right, and even the people you used to
(01:55):
be four maybe they've gone a different way. It's a
hard concept to accept because we all instinctively want to
be liked, like I'm somebody who I make no bones
about it, Like I don't truly truly care about if
(02:16):
everybody likes me. But I don't want to be disliked
by a lot of people. I like to be liked,
but I like to be like for who I am.
I don't want to be fake about it. I don't
have to be nice. I don't have to change the
way I drive or the way I dress. I want
to be me and authentically me, But I still want
people to like, respect and appreciate me. But here's the
sentence that you need to know if you want to
(02:38):
be somebody who I view as mature. I'm not for everybody.
That's okay. It doesn't always feel good sometimes it feels
like rejection, but not for everybody. And you know what,
Danny Earley's not for everybody. He's probably not really for
(02:59):
thekers now. Danny Hurley is a great basketball coach. He's
also a really good person and friend. Right, Like, if
I get fired next year from Green Bay and I
want to keep coaching, like I'll call Danny and Danny
will be like, you know what, I'll get your job,
or my brother gets you a job, or somebody gets
your job, because that's they take good people, take care
(03:21):
of good people. Danny's a great coach, he's a good
person and a good friend. Lebron James and I understand
that there's some all there's plenty of things that we
could pick apart about Lebron that we don't like, and
he does do the I didn't get anybody fired when
it did. But Lebron James wants to be coach and
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he's a great player, and the opportunity there was to
be his last coach. The Lakers are historically the greatest
basketball franchise in the history of the NBA. The Celtics
may win. Title number was eighteen, but like, and the
(04:05):
Celtics is sit there, go like, well, hold on how
many of those titles were in Minnesota and how many
were Okay, fine, but in the modern era of the NBA,
since Larry Bird is not walking through that door, and
Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert
Parris is not walking you got one NBA title.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Larry Bird's not walking through that door.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, he's not.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
The Lakers are the greatest organization, historic organization in the
history of the sport, in the number two media market,
in one of, if not the greatest city in the world.
And I love New York and I love Boston. I'm
sending a daughter to go to to go to school
in Boston. I love it. But let's be honest, New
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York for about two three weeks in the summer is
uninhabitable because it's so hot and humid. And about two
or three weeks in the winter uninhabitable. It's because it's
so cold. Same thing you can say for the cold
in Boston. The heat's not really a problem. It's beautiful
in the summer, incredible in the fall, but the cold
is ridiculous. There's not a day that's uninhabitable in Los Angeles.
(05:12):
And you can tell me all this stuff about taxes.
I've lived in Connecticut. The taxes are hefty there too.
He's not taking that job because of one reason doesn't fit.
Of course, the Lakers screwed up. You can't let him
walk out that door. He comes into La he comes
to negotiate, he doesn't walk out that door. Any of
(05:33):
you who are listening, who are in sales, especially car sales,
you're sitting there, not in your head, you know the
deal that you walk out of the dealership, good luck
while you have him sitting there. Whatever it takes to
get them to agree to that deal. He goes to
New York to Madison Square Garden to a Billy Joel show.
(05:53):
It was over right then and there, over right then there.
Did you know I don't know what, miss Did you
know that Billy Joel has his number retired? Not just
in Madison Square Garden, but I believe, I believe, and
I used to be called the Excel Center. I don't
(06:14):
know what it's called in Hartford because he's played there
that many times. Billy Joel is New York, he is
Long Island, he is East Coast, and so is Danny
Hilt And he goes into the garden. Once you go
into the garden, you're like, dude, it's the garden and
the tirades on the sidelines, the back and forth with
(06:35):
the fans, the making of the faces. His dad's a
legend in Jersey. He's a Jersey shore guy in the summer.
This is not that hard to track. It ain't about money. Well,
the Lakers only offered him seventy million dollars, just to
you know, the Lakers traditionally like to offer three year
(06:56):
contracts the head goaes. They offered him six. They extended themselves.
And no, the Lakers are not a perfect organization. They're
incredibly cheap to people who aren't the players. But they're
trying to combat that. And six years, seventy million dollars
is that's money you can retire on. And he could
have come back and coached in college or whatever you
want it afterwards. It wasn't about the money. You don't
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turn down or take a job simply because of the money.
It's the where do I fit? Where do I fit?
And Danny Hurley's a guy that's been overlooked and made
to feel as though he's not as good as his
brother or wasn't as special as his dad. And he's
at a school that embraces that. He's in a league
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in the Big East that embraces that they embrace all
the uniqueness that is Danny. He's not for everybody, but
he's for Yukon and he's for the Big East, and
it fits. I don't know what my I mean. Like, Listen,
I grew up in Los Angeles. I didn't necessarily even
like the Lakers, but the Lakers called tomorrow like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(08:01):
take that one. But that's because I grew up in
Southern California. I've lived in Southern California the last seven years.
I lived between the ages of six and nineteen, right
and then one year in between. So I mean, you
do the math. Probably twenty years of my life I've
lived in Southern California. I'm super comfortable with it. I
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like New York. New York's great energy to me, but
and I would go back there every summer. But I
can't tell you that I'm like a New Yorker. I
can fake it. I don't like the Yankees, I don't
like the Rangers. I know this world is about fit.
Maturity is about knowing that you're not for everybody, and
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lean into the people who get you, who like you.
Surround yourself with those people. And when you're Danny Hurley,
who's gone from high school to Wagner to Rhode Island
to Yukon to back to back national titles, I get it. Like, look,
he's gonna have to create a whole new team next year.
He's got like one starter back, two rotation guys back.
(09:12):
If there's ever a chance to leave, now's the chance.
The Lakers call. That's a hard it's a hard phone
call to put down, Like the Lakers just called and
offered me a job. And then you go there and
you walk down the hallway, and you see a hallway
when you walk into the Lakers facility and there's a
picture of George Miken and Will Chamberlain and Kareem and
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Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Magic Johnson,
Big Game, James Worthy and Byron Scott and Michael Cooper,
and then you walk further down the hallway, and you
see Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neil and Derek Fisher with
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point seven seconds to go, and Pau Gasol and Lebron
James and seventeen banners of their own, and Phil Jackson's
coach there, and pat Riley's coach there, and you're sitting
there going, wait, this could all be mine, It's gonna
(10:16):
all be yours. But he's from Jersey Lake, her guy, right.
And when you catch your breath and you check yourself
and you find out where you fit, you go. You
know what, Let me lean into people who get me,
let me lean into where I fit. I think that's
why Danny Stamm give me your thoughts at Gottlieb Show,
(10:39):
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Speaker 2 (10:43):
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Speaker 1 (10:54):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Speaking of Billy Joel, Uh,
we were talking about Billy Joel because Bobby Hurley went
to Bobby. Danny Hurley went to the Billy Joel concert
was that Saturday night or after meet with the Lakers
on Friday. Favorite Billy Joel song.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Sam I'd have to save my life.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, let me alone about you there? Uh, Dan Byer
favorite Billy Joel song, Allanown, Allentown, great song, Allentown. Uh,
Jason Stewart, we did that.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
We did this exact exchange about three weeks ago. Mine
has not changed. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah,
we did. Dan, was it three or four weeks ago? Yeah,
something like that. It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'll tell you DejaVu, DejaVu you uh do you remember
what mine was?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I don't. Piano man, no, that's too.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Obten no, No, New York state of mind, New York
state of Mine, and Anthony song which is moving out
would be would be number two. So uh, but I
mean there's an Uptown girls great. Piano Man's great. He
actually wrote I believe he wrote Shameless, which is my
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favorite Garth Brooks song. Anyway, Billie Joel pretty good. Celtics
also pretty good. They're up two games none on the
Dallas Mavericks. I would say disappointing series too. You know
last night's game was competitive, really competitive and compelling. Game
one was it got competitive in the second half. But man,
(12:47):
when you're just when you're getting sillacked at the end
of the first quarter into halftime, it's really hard, you know,
especially in a weekday game, to really pay attention to it.
I do think that it's one of those deals where
for so long, one we considered the Eastern Conference weaker,
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but two we've come to believe that the regular season
doesn't really matter. That we shouldn't have seen this coming.
But the South is for the best team in the
regular season, and when they had Persingis and they may
not have Persingis hooping forwards, he's having as you heard
(13:28):
from Dan Byer, some was it not preliminary precautionary examination.
But when they have prezingis like, that's the best roster
and the best team in the NBA shouldn't be a surprise.
But man, have they defended and have they figured out
ways to attack Luca on defense and then not let
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anybody else going on offense. Here's just Joe Mizoula talking
about Jason Tatum's impact on the team.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Jason makes greatness look easy. He does it in a
lot of different ways. He does it in defense, does
it rebounding, does it on passing, does it on screening.
He's a tremendous player. Hard to coach him, and he
has the ability to affect a game in different ways.
We're a different team, but it takes everybody to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Here's Jason Tatum on how he's played so far.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
I've been here before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
for my need to score all the points to get
in the way of that. There are going to be
times where you know, I need to score and obviously
I need to shoot better. Yeah, Lee, But we always
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talk about, dude, whatever it takes, for however long it takes.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, I think like, look, we're making Jason Tatum and
his assists last night to be heroic. He was six
of twenty two from the field. Right, He's still but
maybe that makes it more impressive. The Celtics have played
really well and he hasn't shot the ball well yet
at all. Hasn't shot the ball well yet at all.
And I've said that previously about series where Hey, there's
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gonna be a game where Luka Doncik wins a game
on his own. There'll be a game which Jason Tatum
breaks through. This one feels a lot like the Warriors series.
You know, the Warriors had a couple of series like
this with you know, before they had KD and then
when they went last time to beat the Celtics, where
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first a couple of games you keep Steph in check
and people are like, wholla, can Steph Curry even be
the MVP? And then all of a sudden he breaks
out of it, like, Okay, Steph Curry is amazing and
that's happened previously. I feel like we're gonna have that.
But how can he not be impressed by what the
Celtics are doing at both ends of the floor. And
then you got to point out Luca. I get that
(15:44):
you're all banged up and bandaged up and you look
like the human bruised and Tom Peabody, but man, he
hadn't guarden anybody at all in this series and they're
picking on him. That's what they do in the NBA.
All right, s Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
We'll get with Rick Buker in moments he'll join us.
I'm sure he's got a ton of work to do
with the with the news that Danny Hurley is not
(16:05):
going to be the Lakers head coach, and so the
question becomes, do they turn back to JJ Reddick Let me,
let's welcome him in. It's covered the NBA for as
long as I've been in the profession. He's Rick Buker.
He works for Fox Sports one and Fox Sports dot Com. Buke,
what's what's your reaction to Danny Hurley turning down a
reported six years, seventy million dollars deal to be the
Lakers head coach.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
My first thought is, man, does this look bad for
the Lakers? And that but that they lived up to
their reputation of low balling coaches and not spending on
the staff, and you know, where they go from here
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is going to feel like a Plan CD or F.
When you think about the Los Angeles Lakers and how
iconic that franchise is, it's it's a little it's a
little mind boggling. But for six I think the offer
was six years, seventy million, eleven million, while you know
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it was reported that that would put him in the
top six. It's about the overall average of what NBA
coaches are making, and for Hurley to make the leap
from Yukon to LA and all that he would have
to deal with, I just felt it was going to
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have to be a can't refuse type number. And that
was the number that was being thrown around in a
lot of places, talking closer to one hundred milie and so,
you know, without that not really when I saw the
when I saw the number that there was offered, I
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was like, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised that Hurley
didn't go for that. Yukon, he had a deal sitting
on the table that he had not signed. I'm told
that the deal that he is going to sign now
has been sweetened that puts him more in line with
Bill self, who's who's making ten mil and you know,
the top two or three guys. So I feel like
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this is a gambit that I'm not sure it was
going to work, but the Lakers needed to make it happen.
That they needed this to happen because anything else, any
other candidate they've had, I'm not sure that Dan Hurley
would have worked, but I could have made a case
where it's had far better chance of working than any
of the other names that I've heard so far.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, there's a lot there. Let's let's and look, I
did the Laker No, No, but I mean, like I
agree and I disagree on some level, Okay, I agree
in that. Yeah, you got to give him an offer
you can't refuse, right, you go to the Godfather. On
the other hands, like normally they were doing three year
deals and four year deals, six years to them. That's
a big thing, right, that's that's a big thing. So
(18:57):
in the Lakers, percidors like dude, like this guy has
never coached today in the NBA, and and it was
a curious fit. Right. It's one of those where all
these things can be. Lebron can want to be coached,
and the Lakers want a legit coach and they want
somebody to take them into the next century as a coach.
(19:18):
But Guinny does not feel like the Lakers head coach,
nor does he feel like a guy, nor does his
offense or style feel like it. Really joss with with
with with Lebron.
Speaker 7 (19:30):
Dred percent olderess. But my thought always was was is
that the long term deal? Because you were going to
have him, you know, usher you through the remainder of
the Lebron era, and then this was really about post
Lebron and I was told that Lebron was infatuated with
the idea of of Hurley coaching Broni, and that that
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was one of the the attractive elements to it. I agree.
I agree with you, like I'm watching Pate of Yukon
and not one of his players. It's like a cattle product.
If you dribbled the ball three times.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
You're the map.
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Its almost look like a team rule. We don't dribble
the ball more than three times. Nobody stands still more
than a second. Like and being able to find the
players to be able to play that system effectively at
the NBA level, it's generally you don't. You don't come
in with a system in the NBA. You come in
and you look at the personnel that you can hand
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it and you figure out what system you can play
with that. And I don't know that. I mean, Dan's
to this point has not demonstrated that he can do that.
He's very good at finding the players to make his
system work. I don't know that that would work at
the NBA level. But let's stop and take a step back.
If you're the Lakers and you're saying, yeah, we don't
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think that's going to work, why are you even entertaining?
Why are you going down this road?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, so let me let me ask you this. Are
we to buy the story that this was their plan
a all along? Because because I gotta tell you last week,
at the start of the week, I was told by
I was called by a couple of people who are
assistant coaches who are out of work. They're like, hey,
(21:23):
do you know JJ, because I heard they're trying to
find assistance to fit with to fit with him, And
then all of a sudden Friday, it's like, this is
their plan all along. So what happened with the JJ thing.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Well, they were they What I understand is that they
were struggling to find the coaching staff. They knew that
they needed to find the right coaching staff for this
to work with JJ, and they weren't able to find
the kind of guys getting My understanding is with James Borrego,
the guys who had the experiences they felt comfortable, could
(21:57):
could be his, could be the cabbies, could be could
make this work, and so they got stuck and they
started looking, Okay, so what else can we do? And
they got word that Hurley had a offer on his
desk that he had not signed, and they had not.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's exactly what I thought. This is exactly this is
exactly what I was told happened. Which is which is
they thought, Hey, like the JJ thing, this fight work.
Who else is available? Like you know, I heard Bobby Hurley,
I'm Danny Hurley unsigned his deal like really, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
And so and so that's what led them down that
road to to explore that. And then you know, I'm
not going to get into the ins and outs of
how our league is reported on these days. But then
it became a matter of trying to make somebody look
bad for saying that they were zeroing in on JJ Reddick.
(22:55):
And and so let's take it another level and say
he was never the case when or he was never
the primary target. When if that was the case, then
then it should have somebody should have been reporting that
Dan Hurley was plan A and that didn't happen until
what like three four days ago. So I just there's
(23:18):
a lot of machinations behind the scenes on as there
always are with the with the Lakers that have colored
how this story has gone. But for me, the bottom
line is like the Lakers are just too storied of
a franchise to be sitting here in June with not
(23:41):
I mean, it's one thing for Cleveland not to have
their head coach. It's completely other thing for the Lakers
to have explored various options and not have a ready made,
like obvious choice that that they should be going after
and that should want to coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So is it now JJ's job?
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I wish I could tell you. I Mean, it just
seems like can they That's such a face planned if
you have to turn back to that and then make
the best of it that you can. And then there's
the weird there's the whole weird thing of JJ, you know,
coming after the report that uh you know that they
(24:30):
were zeroing in on him, and it, uh, it just
gets really murky. So like I have not heard another name,
I have not heard who the target is at this point,
so by default, I mean the only other name I've
heard is like, are they going to go after Jay Wright? Now?
And but I mean that's the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Only guy likes the Jersey Shore more than Danny Hurley
is Jay Wright.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, yeah, So I'm not giving that any crazies. I'm
just telling you, like, that's where we are. Like I
think people are just throwing names at the wall to
say hey, but again, that's kind of how we got
to Danny Hurley. So who knows?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:12):
I mean, I just I just still bother with my mind.
We're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers, I know, and
and we're in this place where it's like who can
we get to coach? Just think about this, this is
what we are talking about. Who can we get to
coach the Los Angeles Lakers? And it's an extraordinary place
(25:36):
to be that would be one thing. Or like who
can who would be willing to coach the Charlotte Hornets?
How much are we gonna have to pay them? That
that the separation for those who may are listening and
may not understand, Los Angeles Lakers shouldn't have to be
scrambling to find somebody to take their job, and yet
it feels like that is exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
How much blame do we put on lebron.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Uh? I mean I can't, I can't in this case
just because whatever blame you would put on him, he
is being he is being afforded that influence by the Lakers,
and uh and so I'm not. And from what I
know of how Lebron approaches these things is it's a
(26:26):
very passive, aggressive approach. He's not going to tell you
who he wants specifically or whatever. He's not going to say, hey,
get this guy and I'll be happy. You just find out,
like he's gonna let you hire you want to hire,
and then when it doesn't work, he'll let you know
(26:47):
or he'll let the world know. But it's never it's
never an overt conversation about this is the guy that
I want. He'll he'll give you, he'll he'll give you
a sense of where he wants you to go, but
it's not it's not definitive. And then he's got plausible
deniability when it's when it doesn't work. So in all
(27:07):
of this, I just I don't like whatever Lebron has
done over the course of his career, in whatever places
he's done it. I always look at management and say, well,
you you gave him that cachet, You gave him that
ability to tell you raide the farm for Anthony Davis. So,
am I really gonna Am I going to blame Lebron
(27:27):
when it's it's ultimately you that are pulling the trigger?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No? I I look, I wouldn't blame him for the
Hurley thing, but the fact that it's going to be
really hard for them to find a coach I do
think is he's he's a huge factor in that.
Speaker 7 (27:43):
Well, now that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
No, I understand, I understand, Like I'm not. I'm not
I'm not in any way, uh, diminishing your answer on
the Hurley thing. I'm simply voarding the conversation.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
No. But but I'm I'm not blaming Lebron for whatever
happens in terms of who they hire as a head coach,
because ultimately it's the Lakers, not Lebron, hiring that head coach.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yes, but and and yes, but but it's the do
you do you want to deal with the Lebronny thing?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Like, well, do you now?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's that's all you got to do with lebron thing?
Like like you said, like I he's not going to
move on offense, right, that's a hard one. You know,
his agency, his agency, reps, you know, kind of half
the team, he's wieled his power and then like you're
gonna have to know only bring his son up and
then play him.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah, well this was the thing for me. It was
it was like when I was talking to a bunch
of different people in the league about like, do you
think that this Hurly thing could work? And they were like,
you know what what happens? Like one executives like I'm
just waiting for the time when you know, Hurley's drawing
(29:01):
something on the clipboard and Lebron rips it out of
his hands, And I was like, I'm waiting for the
times that Lebron doesn't rotate on defense and he's coming
off the floor and Hurley's yelling at him, Like because
all of that, if Hurley stays true to form and
Lebron stays two to deform, all of those things were
going to happen eventually. And then you throw the whole
Bronny thing in. Yeah, no, I'm not I'm not saying
(29:23):
that it's I think this job is not as attractive
because of the Lebron Bronni factor that anybody coming in
is going to have to handle. But that's different than
do I blame Lebron for the fact that they haven't
(29:43):
been able to hire a head coach yet. There's a
distinction for me between the question no question.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Last thing is just kind of a quick one. Who
do we give the most credit on the Celtics too?
Does that have to be a player to be coach?
I would give it to Brad. I think it's an
incredibly put together roster. But I don't want to diminish Missoula.
He's done a great job with them, and I think
they have really, really good players. I think I think
(30:10):
the Drew Holiday, for example, is somebody who like, statistically
you don't understand basketball, but he's better than Lillard. He's
a better basketball player. He helps the affects winning more.
But again, I think that's Brad. But what about you?
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Yeah, well, look, he put the ideal pieces around his
core of Brown and Tatum. With Drew Holiday and christophs
porzingis just filled two massive holes and personality wise, they
were perfect editions. But I think this is the difficulty
is like trying to the pinpoint one particular person, because
(30:45):
I think what has made the Celtics so strong is
that everybody is willing to take a part and not
be the guy Mizula has been shrewd in this series.
I give him that he's made some really deaf moves
and how he's he's handled things, and he's done a
couple of simple things that previous coaches, supposedly more experience,
(31:06):
did not do. But hatum being happy. You know, like, Okay,
I go six for twenty two. But I will, I
will continue to be aggressive and I'll it looks clunky.
He's not a natural passer, but he's giving up the
ball and he's finding guys and he's got guys who
can knock down. So I just credit I credit them
(31:29):
across the board. I think it has been a collective effort.
It's really hard for me to take one person and
put them above the rest. If you did that with anybody,
who probably would be brat because he's put this whole
conglomer together.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Awesome stuff. Buke, good Mark, thanks for joining us. Really
appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
My pleasure.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Rick Bucker joined us Fox Sports One and Foxsports dot Com.
He joined us in the Doug Gottlieb Show here on
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
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we handed over to Dan Byer. He gets us through
all the stories today by playing the game.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Dan Buyer, what's the game today, Doug?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The game is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
All right, big deal, little deal or no deal. That's
Celtics for Christops Porzingis is getting some imaging done. Hons
is your leg that forced him to leave last night's
game with about five minutes to go.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think it's a big deal. I just do because
I think what happens is inevitably you get it checked
out and then you probably shut them down for a
game and say we're up two games none. They're not
the same team without Prazingis, They're just not. So I
think it's a big.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All right, Moving on more Game two stuff though, big deal,
a little dealer no deal that no follow is called
on Jalen Brown against PJ. Washington late in last night's
Game two.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The push yes, uh, that's a big deal. Camas that one,
Camas that one. Now. The other part, too, is he's
being celebrated as a block but he he got hung
he hit the front rim, and he probably hit the
front rim. It's like, oh he got got Yeah, he
got pushed in the back. That's why. That's why sure
that that'll that'll do it. That'll cause you to miss
(33:30):
that shot. So it was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
And there's there's no guarantee, by the way that the
Mavericks PJ. Washington would make the free throws, considering this
a bit of a bugaboo last night for him. But
uh but yeah, still in that would have made it
a three point game. Yeah, pretty big deal, all right,
big deal, little dealer, no deal, Doug that Darvin Ham
is back to being an assistant coach again as he's
going back to Milwaukee to be the lead assistant for
(33:53):
Doc Rivers.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Uh, it's a big deal. I'm not going to diminish that.
I think it's a pretty big deal. Like it's a
weird fit too, because he's not going back to Bud
He's going to Uh, he's going to Doc Rivers. So
it feels like the organization wanted him back and then
took him back like that. One's it's weird. Yeah, did
not receive rave reviews from people I know with the Lakers.
(34:18):
In terms of the actual coaching, he's just more of
a like motivational, play hard kind of guy. And I
don't know what that brings to Milwaukee, but maybe because
it worked before, because he was well regarded there before,
maybe it works now.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Maybe the case is well of who knows if you'll
get another head coaching opportunity, But you know, sometimes those
coaches you know will move on to another head coaching
gig or move back to the Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
The hardest thing is, and like everybody knows this for
any job they apply to, right, but the hardest thing
to get when you apply for head coach job is
do you have head coaching experience? Yes? I do, so
I think there's a chance, yeah, a good chance he
gets another coaching job, you know, especially how many guys
have tried to coach Lebron and have it worked out,
and so there'd be some sort of pass given there.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Sure, big deal, little dealer, no deal that the Pittsburgh
Steelers gave Mike Tomlin a three year extension that now
goes through the twenty twenty seventh season.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
That's big because you know, we the Tomlin could retire,
could do TV, could get fired, thing has been kind
of two years of talk in the making. So yeah,
I think I feel like that's a big story, big deal.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
He's the longest tenured coach in the NFL now with
Bill Belichick no longer employed. So he's about to enter
his eighteenth season, the next longest.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Oh wait, wit can I guess?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah? Yeah, go right ahead.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay, this is okay, So my brain works, I go
east to west. It's going to take a sa.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Wait does I always say do you know the answer? Iowa, Sam,
don't say it, but if.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You know it, the second longest tenure in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yes, I know the answer. But okay, so you don't. No,
that's okay, Doug scanning my brain.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
But go Aheadah, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Kyle Shanahan, Okay, are you guys good with that?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You guys, I didn't really go through the whole league
like it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
How about to Andy and Kansas City? Okay? You like
Andy Reid?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yeah? Andy Reed has been there longer.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Both are wrong answers. Andy has been there longer.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Okay, hold, hold le let's see here. Okay, So AFC East,
hold on NFC East Cowboys, No, Washington no Giants, no Eagles, No,
I don't know. Give it to me.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
I don't have John Harbaugh. I'd go to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh, I forgot. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Wow. Andy Reid's third. And then actually there's a bunch
of twenty seventeen hires and it all depends on when
you were actually hired. But that would be McDermott, Sean McVay,
and Kyle Shanahan. All of that's like, yeah, all right,
big deal, little deal or no deal, Doug. That Darren
Waller announced his retirement from the NFL this past weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
It's like a big deal. It's like a big deal, right,
he went like, super disappointing season. Uh well, married, super
disappointing season, divorced rap song and retired. That's that's a
that's a very interesting thirteen months or so.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
And that's game time.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
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