June 10, 2024 • 49 mins
On a Monday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug reacts to the breaking news that UConn head coach Dan Hurley is staying at Uconn and turning down the chance to coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
Doug and the crew share what they loved most and what they hated most about the sports weekend.
Doug gives his thoughts on game two of the NBA Finals. Doug welcomes NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to give his reaction to Dan Hurley turning down the Lakers to stay at UConn
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not leaving right. The show goes on, and here's the thing.
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Do you what maturity really is? How you would define maturity?
There's a lot of different ways to do it. I've
often said that when you mature is when you stop
pointing fingers outward and you start pointing the fingers inward.
I screwed that up. That's me and you actually mean it.
You don't say it just so to get people off
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your back. You're like, yeah, I by butchered that. I
don't know what I was thinking. I screwed that one up, right,
Immature people blame everybody else. That's what children do, and
Johnny was doing it now the cop was well, the
cop pulled me over. Everybody was speeding, like no, no, no,
were you speeding? Yes? But everybody no, no, no, but what
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are you speeding? Yes? They put me over. Well. But
another part of maturity is understanding that you're not for
everybody right, and even the people you used to be
four maybe they've gone a different way. It's a hard
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concept to accept because we all instinctively want to be liked,
Like I'm somebody who I make no bones about it,
Like I don't truly truly care about if everybody likes me.
But I don't want to be disliked by a lot
of people. I like to be liked, but I like
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to be liked for who I am. I don't want
to be fake about it. I don't have to be nice.
I don't have to change the way I drive or
the way I dress. I want to be me and
authentically me. But I still want people to like, respect
and appreciate me. But here's the sentence that you need
to know if you want to be somebody who I
view as mature. I'm not for everybody. That's okay. It
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doesn't always feel good sometimes it feels like rejection, but
not for everybody. And you know what, Dannie Earley is
not for everybody. He's probably not really for the Lakers now.
Danny Hurley is a great basketball coach. He's also a
really good person and friend. Right Like, if I get
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fired next year from Green Bay and I want to
keep coaching, like I'll call Danny and Danny will be like,
you know what, I'll get your job, or my brother
gets you a job, or somebody get your job, because
that's they take good people, take care of good people.
Danny's a great coach, he's a good person and a
good friend. Lebron James and I understand that there's some
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all there's plenty of things that we could pick apart
about Lebron that we don't like, and he does do
the I didn't get anybody fired when it did. But
Lebron James wants to be coach and he's a great player,
and the opportunity there was to be his last coach
the Lakers are historically the greatest basketball franchise in the
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history of the NBA. The Celtics may win title number
was eighteen, but like and the Celtics sit there, go like, well,
hold on how many of those titles were in Minnesota
and how many were Okay, fine, but in the modern
era of the NBA, since Larry Bird is not walking
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through that door, and Kevin McHale is not walking through
that door, and Robert Paris is not walking you got
one NBA title. Larry Bird's not walking through that door. No,
he's not. The Lakers are the greatest organization, historic organization
in the history of the sport, in the number two
media market, in one of, if not the greatest city
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in the world. And I love New York and I
love Boston. I'm sending a daughter to go to to
go to school in Boston. I love it. But let's
be honest, New York for about two three weeks in
the summer is uninhabitable because it's so hot and humid,
and about two or three weeks in the winter uninhabitable
it is so cold. Same thing you can say for
the cold in Boston. That heat's not really a problem.
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It's beautiful in the summer, incredible in the fall, but
the cold is ridiculous. There's not a day that's uninhabitable
in Los Angeles. And you can tell me all this
stuff about taxes. I've lived in Connecticut. The taxes are
hefty there too. He's not taking that job because of
one reason doesn't fit. Of course, the Lakers screwed up.
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You can't let him walk out that door. He comes
into La he comes to negotiate, he doesn't walk out
that door. Any of you who are listening, who are
in sales, especially car sales, you're sitting there, notine in
your head. You know the deal that you walk out
of the dealership, good luck while you have him sitting there.
Whatever it takes to get them to agree to that deal.
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He goes to New York to Madison Square Garden to
a Billy Joel show. It was over right then and there,
over right then there. Did you know? I don't know,
miss Did you know that Billy Joel has his number retired?
Not just in Madison Square Garden, but I believe, I believe,
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and I used to be called the Excel Center. I
don't know what it's called in Hartford because he's played
there that many times. Billy Joel is New York, he
is Long Island, he is East Coast, and so is
Danny Hilt and he goes into the garden. Once you
go into the garden, you're like, dude, it's the garden
and the tirades on the sidelines, the back and forth
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with the fans, the making of the faces. His dad's
a legend in Jersey. He's a Jersey shore guy in
the summer. This is not that hard to track. It
ain't about money. Well, the Lakers only offered him seventy
million dollars, just to you know, the Lakers traditionally like
to offer three year contracts. There head coach offered him six.
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They extended themselves, And no, the Lakers are not a
perfect organization. They're incredibly cheap to people who aren't the players,
but they're trying to combat that. And six years, seventy
million dollars is that's money you can retire on. And
he could have come back and coached in college or
whatever you want it afterwards. It wasn't about the money.
You don't turn down or take a job simply because
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of the money. It's the where do I fit? Where
do I fit. And Danny Hurley is a guy that's
been overlooked and made to feel as though he's not
as good as his brother, or wasn't as special as
his dad, or and he's at a school that embraces
that he's in a league in the Big East that
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embraces that they embrace all the uniqueness that is Danny.
He's not for everybody, but he's for Yukon and he's
for the Big East, and it fits. I don't know
what my I mean. Like, listen, I grew up in
Los Angeles. I didn't necessarily even like the Lakers, but
the Lakers well tomorrow like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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to take that one. But that's because I grew up
in Southern California. I've lived in Southern California the last
seven years. I lived between the ages of six and nineteen, right,
and then one year in between. So I mean, you
do the math. Probably twenty years of my life I've
lived in Southern California. I'm super comfortable with it. I
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like New York. New York's great energy to me, but
and I would go back there every summer. But I
can't tell you that I'm like a New Yorker, I
can fake it. I don't like the Yankees, I don't
like the Rangers. I know this world is about fit.
Maturity is about knowing that you're not for everybody, and
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lean into the people who get you, who like you.
Surround yourself with those people. And when you're Danny Hurley,
who's gone from high school to Wagner to Rhode Island
to Yukon to back to back national titles, I get it. Like, look,
he's gonna have to create a whole new team next year.
He's got like one starter back, two rotation guys back.
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If there's ever a chance to leave, now's the chance.
The Lakers call. That's a hard it's a hard phone
call to put down, Like the Lakers just called and
offered me a job. And then you go there and
you walk down the hallway, and you see a hallway
when you walk into the Lakers facility and there's a
picture of George Miken and Will Chamberlain and Kareem and
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Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Magic Johnson,
Big Game, James Worthy and Byron Scott and Michael Cooper.
And then you walk further down the Hallway, and you
see Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neil and Derek Fisher with
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point seven seconds to go, and Pau Gasol and Lebron
James and seventeen banners of their own and Phil Jackson's
coach there and pat Riley's coach there, and you're sitting
there going, wait, this could all be mine. It's gonna
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all be yours. But he's from Jersey Lakeer guy right.
And when you catch your breath and you check yourself
and you find out where you fit, you go. You
know what, Let me lean into people who get me,
Let me lean into where I fit. I think that's
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haven't talked about Caitlin Clark's snub of not being on
the Olympic team. Maybe that's part of the discussion, maybe
it's not. We'll get to an upcoming fifteen minutes. My
guy Jeff Goodman will join us. He's really close with
the Hurlies, and we'll get his reaction to Danny Hurley
remaining at Yukon and spurning spurning the Lakers. But before
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we get to all that, it was a good weekend,
summer weekend, right, was the second full summer weekend, So
lots to get to that we loved, lots to get
to we hate. Let's play a little love and hate.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Meet these player? Hay is all right, I'm gonna start.
I love the Yankees Dodgers series. I just did little
Dodgers take over there? Huh Dodger fans traveling out to
New York to check it out.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Walking down the street, Yeah, walking.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Down the street, taking the subway, taking the seventh train
out there. I loved it. Like I love the Dodger takeover.
It's like, you know, LA sports fans so oftentimes get
a bad rap like the yank the Angels stink, and
three million people watch them, four million people watch the
watch the Dodgers, and of course soccer teams draw. But
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how about traveling with your baseball team to see the Yankees?
And what I think we can only hope if you're
a baseball fan is a precursor to the World Series.
I just loved it. I love the energy of a
baseball series. And while interleague play is part of every
series now, because you got fifteen on each side, that
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was one that was totally worthwhile. Let me go to Dan,
would you love for the weekend? Did he? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Doug? It is all golf related on my end because.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Scheffler, I mean, how good is that guy?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Amazing end ends up holding on and winning at the Memorial,
doing so in some drama at the end, Kalin Morra
Cowell was right on the heels, but Scheffler ends up prevailing.
That leads into the US Open, and it does provide
me with a dilemma because I am super stoked. US
Open is at Pinehurst number two and I am curious
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on your guys thoughts on this because I'm excited for
the week because I've played Pinehurst number two twice, most
recently in twenty twenty two, so just two years ago
was in the area. Do I do the social media
post my pictures from two years ago because it's that week?
Or is that coming off as bragging because it's not
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really for any journalistic No one's going to look at
my pictures and be like, thanks, I know more about
the US Open now because as of that picture you posted.
But should I post any picks from my trip to
Pinehurst two years ago this week? Because the US Open
is there just looking for something?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're like doing the Tim Brando. Something happens and you
have to somehow make it about yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Like somebody dies, then everybody puts a picture
of them with that person.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yep. And I don't know, like, listen, you do you
have a good pick of yourself at Pinehurst?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I you know, I don't know if I do. I
think I've got good picture of the course, but I
don't think of any of me swinging. I don't think
my buddy took any So yeah, so maybe not. Maybe
that's the answer. Right there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I just think you do. I don't think it's humble brag.
You don't do it all the time. You're not that
guys all the time. Yeah, I think you're good.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I think if you have any hesitation about it, then
you should not do it. I think your hesitation is
probably the answer to your question. And to say, does
it come off as bragging if I put some on
social media, that's almost like a redundancy. What ninety percent
of social media is bragging. Ninety percent of social media
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is making something that everyone relates to about yourself. So
I mean, if you're not comfortable doing it, don't do
it fair enough?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Good with that, I'll just text them to you guys instead,
kind of like gets my fix. But then answers the question.
All right, that was my love though, I'm excited for
US Open Week.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's really good. It's a good one. Jason Stewart, usually
the hater give me sent me you up.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well, first of all, I loved my most recent love is.
I love the restraint that Iowa Sam showed just now
because Doug came out and he said, hey, the second
full weekend of the summer just happened, and Iowa Sam
knows this because he said it on the air I
think ten days ago, and he showed restraint. He did
not correct you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
He did not say summer doesn't actually start.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Jill, consider yourself lucky Doug, because I was corrected a
couple of weeks ago by Sam what's that one?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But it was my mistake because you did say unofficial
or either Doug or dancing and officially the start of summer.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That summer starts in late June. We found out in
first grade.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Twentieth right, But summer for most human beings starts at
the end of the world. Do we get right?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yep, I'm just going by the.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
By the way, the white hands were okay then until
Labor Day. I was twll of those.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I loved how Joe Mizzoulla handled a specific question over
the weekend. This question is coming at you from Vince
Goodwill of Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Hey, Joe Vin School or Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
For the first time since nineteen seventy five, this is
the NBA Finals where you have two black head coaches
given the plight sometimes with black head coaches in the NBA.
Do you think this is a significant moment? Do you
take pride in this? How do you view this or
do you not see it at all?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I wonder how many of those are being Christian coaches.
David Olridge.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That David Aldridge is the best part, David. Please.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
The reason why I love that exchange is because Goodwill
really thought he was teeing up something for Missoula there,
and that Missoula was going to give this amazing answer
about race and coaches and the plight, and Goodwill was
going to get all the attention for asking that amazing question,
and it was just thrown back in his face. Joe
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Mizzoula in that moment made me a huge fan of him.
I just love what he did right there. He went
against the narrative and it was amazing. And you know me,
if you've worked with me long enough, you know I
love when things are awkward. I love when people are awkward.
I like discomfort. And that was a discomfort moment. Nobody
was able to respond. My moment of the weekende so good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
David als was so good. David Aldridge, David Alders, what
about you there? I was shy.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I'm gonna love the even though they split the series
with the Mets, I'm gonna love the Phillies. Time in
London over the weekend. A hell of a team. The
Phillies are. I think that they I want to say
that they are tied with the Yankees for the best
record in baseball. Bryce Harper is star. He's the star
of Major League Baseball in my opinion outside of show
Hey a Tani.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Really that's your opinion that Bryce Harper is a star.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He is the star. Him and show Hey, I think
are the top I mean top guys. He did a
little soccer slide to appease some of the the Brits
there at the at the game. Great crowd. It's a
great time to visit London in late May and early June.
It's finally warming up. It's pretty chilly there in earlier
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in May. I was there about a year ago at
this time. And yeah, so I love the love the
weekend that the Phillies had over there in London, the
London Series.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right, yeah, so we got to anybody else, got
anything else you want to say you loved? I mean
there's other stuff I love, but I you know, I'm
gonna show some restraint.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Because oh go ahead, keep it positive, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I actually loved all of the people pointing out what
I pointed out about Caitlin Clark not making the team.
She's like, we're all thinking the same thing. Sometimes I
feel like I'm a I just don't want to be
a contrarian. To be a contrarian, I'm like, am I
missing something here? Was this really that hard a call?
And it's like, gosh, women's basketball is so strewed up?
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Like this is a gift. What's the what was the
Rob Polinka thing? When they signed? I forget who they signed,
maybe D'Angelo Russell or something. It's a gift from Hannah
or something super cheesy over the top, forget who he signed,
but like, that's what this is. This is a gift
from above. And I just I actually was you know,
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It's like I want to make sure it wasn't a
hot take, but like, are we were crazy? And yeah,
So I actually liked everybody's reaction kind of being in unison.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
With this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Liked it a lot, a lot, a lot. Let's get
the way hated all. When we start with hatred, we
start with Jason Stewart because it he exudes things he hates.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
The ironic thing is David.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
David Aldrich.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
The ironic thing is that the thing that you loved
is what my hate was. And there's like nineteen layers
to the Caitlin Clark not making the Olympic team. There's
nineteen layers. Here's one that I can't stand. All of
the NOA dolls that have been following the WNBA for
a long time, all of the women's sports reporters on
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Twitter over the weekend. You know what a great way
to get me to know for a fact that you're
too close to something to be objective. This is my
new way of knowing, Dan Bayer. If you say something
to me that I know you're too close to something
to be objective. Hey, if you put Kaitlyn Clark on,
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who do you take off? Okay? How about the I
looked at the roster, and it's my job to know
sports for a living. There are six women on that
roster that I've never heard of. They could be the
most amazing basketball players in the world. Why don't you
pick one of those and then put Kaitlin Clark on it?
How about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I do get a kick out of people. And my
apologies to Dan Patrick. He loved Dan Patrick, but he
wasn't the only one who said, like I mean, if
anybody got snub it was a rique at Gumbal Walley.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
By the way, oh of course, yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Of course. By the way, Dan, here here's the that's
going off of Twitter. She is a chucker, her team
never wins, and that's no one knows who areque.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah yeah, but that was that was their point.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He actually said that, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I think so yeah, yeah, And I don't want to
name names.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I can't. Can't said that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here's the other thing Jason's talking about personal in the break,
I said that. I said to Sam, I'm like, my
love and hate is going to be personal, and Sam goes,
mine too, Mine's going to be about Kaitlyn Clark. And
mine was about my golf game on Saturday. I didn't
say mine's gonna be personal today. Yeah, you said mine too,
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And I don't said. I don't know if Jason heard
him or not, but I said, mine's going to be
personally like, yeah, mine too, it's gonna be about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And I said, well, okay, I was perfect night, remember,
so you might be right, but I don't. I don't
think I said that, Tug.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was a perfect night. The call, and I just
I wish I was one of those people who could
just turn it off and accept the night for what.
It was a beautiful night in the seventies in southern
California with you know, a beautiful late evening sun, and
I just could not hit the ball with crap. And
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then the driver comes around a little bit, and then
your wedge game just stinks. So even if you hit
a great drive, you can't do anything with it, and
if you hit a great chip, it doesn't matter because
you've been a mess all the way getting there. It
was just one of those things I think for all
of us who love the game of golf hopefully can
relate with. But I couldn't even couldn't even put aside.
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My neighbor was playing with me, so it wasn't even
just me and him out having a you know, a
great time, but I was playing awful golf and it
still bothered me. So that was my hate from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yes, I am going to take the hanging fruit, and
it's fruit that might not have any juice left in it.
But the snub the Olympic team snub Kaitlyn Clark sitting
at home. I'll take that as my hate for the weekend.
My thought is this, like, even if she doesn't play
very much, if she were on the roster, let's say
she's like tenth to twelfth in the rotation, she gets
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in on mop up time, like they've already won it
seven times in a row. Like she's not gonna cost
them a gold medal. She's not gonna If she's gonna
be playing, it's gonna be like, you know, when the
games are already decided, and I think she would go
in there. I think she'd be great. Like she's she's
already played against WNBA players. If they're playing against like
some team from you know, Slovakia or something or Chile, like,
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she's probably gonna dominate, cause like they that the women's
you know, women's basketball in this country dominates all the time.
So if you take her an up and coming player,
she's gonna get in there. She's not gonna cost a
team anything. It would have been nothing but good publicity.
But alas she is not. So yeah, but who do
you take off?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Who do you take off? What about just.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Whoever is tenth eleventh? But yeah, goom, their play will
be inconsequential, like they'll be just getting in. We know
he's kidding, No, I know, I know, Sam, he's kidding.
I really just didn't want to try to repeat her,
you know, pronounce her name. I would have butchered it. So, yeah,
that's my eight for the weekend. Should have put her on,
but she'll have to wait four years from now. We
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could all be dead by then. Geez, that was dark.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wow, that wasn't really we're all dead in four years.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
We could be That's what I'm saying. Ye, I was
like next week, I could be dead by then. Supposed
to be a joke.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
No, it went over well yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, clearly we all not on the outside and maybe
not on the inside.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
We have a new intern, Dean, and it's Dean's first
day and Dean goes to see you Boulder. Sam dropped,
Uh was it a Dean on? Like it was trying
to be a Deon? Sanders pund Was that what it was?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Dean?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It should be in podcast called Dean on Dion. How
about that?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, that wasn't the joke you were, Yeah, yeah, it's
not been a good day for Sam's jokes.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
How about this hasn't how about when I have an
awkward joke like this, I play.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
This David Oldridge.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That saves me a little bit, David David Aldrich. Uh,
I got one something I hate. Steve Lets's new head
coach at Mile Montern, Oklahoma State, and he was on
John Rothstein's podcast and he said that Oklahoma State's gonna
play Oklahoma Bedlam at the pay Com Center, which is
in oklaham City where the Thunder play. And so most
people go, like, that's awesome. You know, Oklahoma leaves for
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the SEC in Oklahoma State stays in the Big Twelve,
and hey, the rivals still keep this rivalry going. I
hate it. I hate it because what is the I
don't know. I don't know if there's punishment, but there's
cause and effect. Mike Gundy, who's the head coach of
Oklahoma State, as a former Oaklhama State quarterback and alumni,
and uh, I think the longest ten year head coach
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in the Big Twelve, was like, that series is over.
You didn't want to stay in the league. Series is over.
The basketball program still playing them? Why And the answer
is quite obvious. It's because of money, right, And they
make some money on a game playing a neutral site.
Get some people in pay coon. But you know, considering
what the University of Oklahoma did to their fellow Oklahoma
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school's only two public Division one institutions in the state
of Oklahoma, Okay, they had been tied the hip, competed
in football every year on longest uninterrupted series in all
of college football, and because they wanted the financial gain
of the SEC, they left their brethren school behind and
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did so. And remember they did so well negotiating with
their Big twelve brethren the new TV deal and didn't
tell anybody, and then they go, hey, by the way,
you know deal, we're out to the SEC. So yeah,
I just I cannot believe that, Like, you didn't let
it go a year or two years or three years
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to where there was kind of a build up of, hey,
we'd like to see that series back and maybe have
it on your terms more. Feel like he acquiesced to
the almighty dollar. Don't love it hate it in fact,
h right, that's a little love and hate from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
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Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Speaking of Billy Joel. Uh,
we were talking about Billy Joel because Bobby Hurley went
to Dan Bobby Danny Hurley went to the Billy Joel concert.
Was that Saturday night or after a meeting with the
Lakers on Friday. Favorite Billy Joel song, Sam.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I'd have to save my life?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, leave me alone? About you there, Dan Byer, favorite
Billy Joel song, Alan Town, Allentown, great song Allentown. Uh,
Jason Stewart, we did that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
We did this exact exchange about three weeks ago. Mine
has not changed. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah,
we did, Dan, was it three or four weeks ago? Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It was.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'll tell you DejaVu, DejaVu you Uh, I do you
remember what mine was?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Piano man, No.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's too obvious.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No. No, New York State of Mine, New York State
of Mine. And uh, Anthony's song, which is moving out
would be would be number two. So uh, but I
mean there's an Uptown girls. Great piano man's great. He
actually wrote I believe he wrote Shameless, which is my
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favorite Garth Brooks song. Anyway, I belie Joel pretty good.
Celtics also pretty good. They're up two games none on
the Dallas Mavericks. I would say disappointing series too. You know,
last night's game was competitive, really competitive and compelling. Game
one was it got competitive in the second half. But man,
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when you're just when you're getting selecked at the end
of the first quarter into halftime, it's really hard, you know,
especially in a weekday game, to really pay attention to it.
I do think that it's one of those deals where
for so long, one we've considered the Eastern Conference weaker,
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but two we've come to believe that the regular season
doesn't really matter. That we shouldn't have seen this coming.
But the Celtics were the best team in the regular season,
and when they had Prizingis and they not have Perzingis
moping forwards. He's, as you heard from Dan Byer, some
(31:07):
was it not preliminary, precautionary examination. But when they have Perzingis, like,
that's the best roster and the best team in the
NBA shouldn't be a surprise. But man, have they defended
and have they figured out ways to attack? Luca on
defense and then not let anybody else going on offense.
Here's just Joe Mizoula talking about Jason Tatum's impact on
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the team.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Jason makes greatness look easy. He does it in a
lot of different ways. He does it on defense, does
it on rebounding, does it on passing, does it on screening.
He's a tremendous player. Hard to coach him, and he
has the ability to affect the game in different ways.
We're a different team, but it takes everybody to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Here's Jason Tatum on how he's played so far.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I've been here before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
for my need score all the points to get in
the way of that. There are going to be times
where you know, I need to score and obviously I
need to shoot better. Yeah, Lee, But we always talk about, dude,
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whatever it takes, for however long it takes.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, I think like, look, we're making Jason Tatum and
his assists last night to be heroic. He was six
of twenty two from the field.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He's still but maybe that makes it more impressive. The
Celtics have played really well and he hasn't shot the
bawa yet at all, hasn't shout the bow yet at all.
And I've said this previously about series where hey, there's
gonna be a game where Luka Doncik wins a game
on his own. There'll be a game which Jason Tatum
breaks through. This one feels a lot like the Warriors series.
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You know, the Warriors had a couple of series like
this with you know, before they had KD and then
when they went last time to beat the Celtics, where
first couple of games you keep f in check and
people are like, well, can Steph Curry even be the MVP?
And then all of a sudden he breaks out of
me like, Okay, Steph Curry's amazing, and that's happened previously.
I feel like we're gonna have that. But how can
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he not be impressed by what the Celtics are doing
at both ends of the floor. And then you got
to point out Luca. I get that you're all banged
up and bandaged up and you you look like the
human bruised and Tom Peabody, but man, he hadn't guarded
anybody at all in this series, and they're picking on him.
That's what they do in the NBA. All right, So
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, we'll get
with Rick Buker in moments as he'll join us. I'm
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sure he's got a ton of work to do with
the with the news that Danny Hurley is not going
to be the Lakers head coach, and so the question becomes,
do they turn back to JJ Reddick? Let me, let's
welcome him in. He's covered the NBA for as long
as I've been in the profession. He's Rick Buker. He
works for Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com. Buke,
What's what's your reaction to Danny Hurley turning down a
(33:57):
reported six years, seventy million dollars deal to be Lakers
head coach.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
My first thought is, man, does this look bad for
the Lakers? And that but that they lived up to
their reputation of low balling coaches and not spending on
the staff, and you know, where they go from here
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is going to feel like a Plan CD or F.
When you think about the Los Angeles Lakers and how
iconic that franchise is it's it's a little it's a
little mind boggling. But for six I think the offer
was six years, seventy million, eleven million. While you know
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it was reported that that would put him in the
top six, it's it's about the overall average of what
NBA coaches are making and for Hurley to make the
leap from Yukon to LA and all that he would
have to to deal with. I just felt it was
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going to have to be a can't refuse type number,
and that that was the number that was being thrown
around in a lot of places, talking closer to one
hundred milie and so you know, without that, uh not
really when I saw the when I saw the number
that that was offered, I was like, I'm not surprised.
(35:27):
I'm not surprised that Hurley didn't go for that. Yukon,
he had a deal sitting on the table that he
had not signed. I'm told that the deal that he
is going to sign now has been sweetened. It puts
him more in line with Bill self, who's who's making
ten mil and you know, the top two or three guys.
So uh, I feel like this is a gambit that
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I'm not sure it was going to work, but the
Lakers needed to make it happen. That they needed this
to happen because anything else, any other candidate they've had,
I'm not sure that Dan Hurley would have worked, but
I could have made a case where it's had far
better chance of working than any of the other names
that I've heard so far.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, there's a lot there. Let's let's and look, I
did the Laker No. No, but I mean, like I agree,
and I disagree on some level. Okay, I agree in that, Yeah,
you got to give him an offer you can't refuse, right,
you go to the Godfather. On the other hands, like
normally they were doing three year deals and four year deals,
six years. To them, that's a big thing, right, that's
(36:30):
that's a big thing. So to in the Lakers perceptors
like dude, like this guy has never coached today in
the NBA, and and it was a curious fit. Right.
It's one of those where all these things can be
Lebron can want to be coached, and the Lakers want
a legit coach and they want somebody to take them
into the next century as a coach. But Danny does
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not feel like the Lakers head coach. Nor does he
feel like a guy, and nor does his offense or
style feel like really josh with with with with Lebron.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Uh one hundred percent on over this. But I my
thought always was was is that the long term deal?
Because you were going to have him, you know, usher
you through the remainder of the Lebron era and then
this was really about post Lebron. And I was told
that Lebron was infatuated with the idea of of Hurley
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coaching Broni and that that was one of the the
attractive elements. I agree. I agree with you, like I'm
watching Tate of of Yukon and not one of his players.
It's like a cattle protu. If you've dribbled the ball
three times.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're the map.
Speaker 10 (37:48):
It was almost almost looked like a team rule. We
don't dribble the ball more than three times. Nobody stands
still more than a second. Like and being able to
find the players to be able to play that system effectively.
At the NBA level, it's generally you don't you don't
come in with a system in the NBA. You come
in and you look at the personnel that you can
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hand it and you figure out what system you can
play with that. And I don't know that. I mean,
Dan to this point has not demonstrated that he can
do that. He's very good at finding the players to
make his system work. I don't know that that would
work at the NBA level. But let's stop and take
a step back. If you're the Lakers and you're saying, yeah,
(38:29):
we don't think that's gonna work, why are you even entertaining?
Why are you going down this road?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay, so let me let me ask you this. Are
we to buy the story that this was their plan
a all along? Because because I gotta tell you last week,
at the start of the week, I was told by
I was called by a couple of people who are
assistant coaches who are out of work. They're like, hey,
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do you know JJ, because I heard they're trying to
find assistance to fit with to fit with them. And
then all of a sudden Friday, it's like, this is
their plan all along. So what happened with the JJ thing.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Well, they were they What I understand is that they
were struggling to find the coaching staff. They knew that
they needed to find the right coaching staff for this
to work with JJ, and they weren't able to find
the kind of guys getting my understanding is with James Barrego.
The guys who had the experiences they felt comfortable, could
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could be his could be the caddies, could be could
make this work. And so they they got stuck and
they started looking, Okay, so what else can we do?
And they got word that Hurley had a offer on
his desk that he had not signed, and they.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Had not It's exactly what I thought. This is exactly
this is exactly what I was told happened, which is
which is they thought, Hey, like the JJ thing, this
find work. Who else is available? Like you know, I
heard Bobby Hurley, I'm Danny Hurley on signed his deal
Like really.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so and so that's what led
them down that road to to explore that. And then
you know, I'm not going to get into the ins
and outs of how our our league is reported on
these days. But then it became a matter of trying
to make somebody look bad for saying that they were
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zeroing in on JJ Reddick. And and so let's take
it another level and say he was never the candidate
when or he was never the primary target. When if
that was the case, then then it should have somebody
should have been reporting that Dan Hurley was Plan A
and that didn't happen until what like three or four
days ago. So I just there's a lot of machinations
(40:54):
behind the scenes on as there always are with the
with the Lakers, that have colored how this story has gone.
But for me, the bottom line is like the Lakers
are just too storied of a franchise to be sitting
here in June with not I mean, it's one thing
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for Cleveland not to have their head coach. It's completely
other thing for the Lakers to have explored various options
and not have a ready made, like obvious choice that
they should be going after and that should want to
coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
So is it's job?
Speaker 10 (41:41):
I wish I could tell you. I Mean, it just
seems like can they That's such a face plant if
you have to turn back to that and then make
the best of it that you can. And then there's
the weird there's the whole weird thing of JJ you know,
coming after the report that uh you know that they
(42:05):
were zeroing in on him, and it uh it just
gets really murky. So I like, I have not heard
another name. I have not heard who the target is
at this point, so by default, I mean, the only
other name I've heard is like, are they going to
go after Jay Wright?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Now?
Speaker 10 (42:24):
And but I mean that's all.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
The only guy likes the Jersey Shore more than Danny
Hurley is Jay Wright. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:30):
Yeah, So I'm not giving that any creedis I'm just
telling you, like, that's where we are, Like, I think
people are just throwing names at the wall to say, hey,
but again, that's kind of how we got to Danny Hurley.
So who knows?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Wow?
Speaker 10 (42:47):
I mean, I just I can still bog with my mind.
We're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers, I know, And
and we're in this place where it's like, who can
we get to coach? Just about this? This is what
we are talking about. Who can we get to coach
the Los Angeles Lakers? It's an extraordinary place to be.
(43:12):
It would be one thing is like who can who
would be willing to coach the Charles Hornets? How much
are we gonna have to pay them? That that that
the separation for those who may are listening and may
not understand Los Angeles Lakers shouldn't have to be scrambling
to find somebody to take their job, and yet it
feels like that is exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
How much blame do we put on Lebron?
Speaker 10 (43:39):
Uh? I mean I can't. I can't in this case,
just because whatever blame you would put on him, he
is being uh, he is being afforded that influence by
the Lakers and uh, and so I'm not. And from
what I know of how Lebron approached these things is
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it's a very passive, aggressive approach.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
He's not going to.
Speaker 10 (44:04):
Tell you who he wants specifically or whatever. He's not
going to say, hey, get this guy and I'll be happy.
You just find out like he's gonna let you hire
or you want to hire, and then when it doesn't work,
he'll let you know or he'll let the world know.
But it's never it's never overt conversation about this is
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the guy that I want. He'll he'll give you, he'll
he'll give you a sense of where he wants you
to go, but it's not it's not definitive. And then
he's got plausible deniability when it's when it doesn't work.
So in all of this. I just I don't like
whatever Lebron has done over the course of his career,
in whatever places he's done it. I always look at
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management and say, well, you you gave him that cachet,
You gave him that ability to tell you raide the
farm for Anthony Davis. So am I really gonna Am
I gonna blame Lebron when it's it's ultimately you that
are pulling the triggers.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
No? I I look, I wouldn't blame him for the
Hurley thing, but the fact that it's going to be
really hard for them to find a coach I do
think is he's he's a huge factor in that.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
Well, now that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
No, I understand, I understand, like I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not in any way, uh diminishing your answer on
the Hurley thing. I'm simply voting the conversation.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
No. But but I'm I'm not blaming Lebron for whatever
happens in terms of who they hire as a head coach,
because ultimately it's the Lakers, not Lebron, hiring that head coach.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, but and and yes, but but it's the do
you do you want to deal with the Lebronny thing, like.
Speaker 10 (45:52):
Well, do you now that's that's all.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You got to do with lebron thing? Like like you said, like,
I he's not going to move on offense, right, that's
a hard one. You know, his agency, his agency reps,
you know, kind of half the team, he's wheeled his power,
and then like you're gonna have to knowly bring his
son up and then play him.
Speaker 10 (46:14):
Yeah, well this was the thing for me. It was
it was like when I was talking to a bunch
of different people in the league about like do you
think that this Hurley thing could work? And they were like,
you know what what happens? Like one executives like I'm
just waiting for the time when you know, Hurley's drawing
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something on the clipboard and Lebron rips it out of
his hands. And I was like, I'm waiting for the
times that Lebron doesn't rotate on defense and he's coming
off the floor and Hurley's yelling at him, like like
because all of that, if Hurley stays true to form
and Lebron stays two toform, all of those things were
going to happen eventually. And then you throw the whole
Bronni thing in. Yeah, No, I'm not. I'm not saying
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that it's a I think the job is not as
attractive because of the Lebron Browny factor that anybody coming
in is going to have to handle. But that's different
than do I blame Lebron for the fact that they
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haven't been able to hire a head coach yet. There's
a distinction for me between no.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Question, no question. Last thing is just kind of a
quick one. Who do we give the most credit on
the Celtics too? Doesn't have to be a players to
be coach, could be Brad. I would give it to Brad.
I think it's an incredibly put together roster. But I
don't want to diminish Missoula. He's done a great job
with them, and I think they have really, really good players.
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I think I think there Drew Holiday, for example, is
somebody who like, statistically you don't understand basketball, but he's
better than Lillard. He's a better basketball player. He helps,
he affects winning more. But again, I think that's Brad.
But what about you?
Speaker 10 (47:58):
Yeah, well, look, he but the ideal pieces around his
core of Brown and Tatum, with Drew Holliday and christopsporzingis
just filled two massive holes, and personality wise, they were
perfect editions. But I think this is the difficulty is
like trying to the pinpoint one particular person, because I
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think what has made the Celtics so strong is that
everybody is willing take a part and not be the guy.
Mizula has been shrewd in this series. I give him
that he's made some really deft moves and how he's
he's handled things, and he's done ample a couple of
simple things that previous coaches, supposedly more experienced, did not do.
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But Tatum being had you know, like, okay, I go
six or twenty two. But I will, I will continue
to be aggressive and I'll it looks clunky. He's not
a natural passer, but he's he's giving up the ball
and he's finding guys and he's got guys who can
knock down. So I just I credit I credit them
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across the board. I think it has been a collective effort.
It's really hard for me to take one person and
put them above the rest. If you if you did
that with anybody, probably would be brad because you've put
this whole conglomer.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Together awesome stuff, Buke, good work. Thanks for joining us.
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So ay, tire buying should be I picture Danny Hurley
walking in doing the Wolf of Wall Street thing. I'm
not leaving right. The show goes on, and here's the thing.
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Do you what maturity really is? How you would define maturity?
There's a lot of different ways to do it. I've
often said that when you mature is when you stop
pointing fingers outward and you start pointing the fingers inward.
I screwed that up. That's me and you actually mean it.
You don't say it just so to get people off
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your back. You're like, yeah, I by butchered that. I
don't know what I was thinking. I screwed that one up, right,
Immature people blame everybody else. That's what children do, and
Johnny was doing it now the cop was well, the
cop pulled me over. Everybody was speeding, like no, no, no,
were you speeding? Yes? But everybody no, no, no, but what
(01:39):
are you speeding? Yes? They put me over. Well. But
another part of maturity is understanding that you're not for
everybody right, and even the people you used to be
four maybe they've gone a different way. It's a hard
(02:02):
concept to accept because we all instinctively want to be liked,
Like I'm somebody who I make no bones about it,
Like I don't truly truly care about if everybody likes me.
But I don't want to be disliked by a lot
of people. I like to be liked, but I like
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to be liked for who I am. I don't want
to be fake about it. I don't have to be nice.
I don't have to change the way I drive or
the way I dress. I want to be me and
authentically me. But I still want people to like, respect
and appreciate me. But here's the sentence that you need
to know if you want to be somebody who I
view as mature. I'm not for everybody. That's okay. It
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doesn't always feel good sometimes it feels like rejection, but
not for everybody. And you know what, Dannie Earley is
not for everybody. He's probably not really for the Lakers now.
Danny Hurley is a great basketball coach. He's also a
really good person and friend. Right Like, if I get
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fired next year from Green Bay and I want to
keep coaching, like I'll call Danny and Danny will be like,
you know what, I'll get your job, or my brother
gets you a job, or somebody get your job, because
that's they take good people, take care of good people.
Danny's a great coach, he's a good person and a
good friend. Lebron James and I understand that there's some
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all there's plenty of things that we could pick apart
about Lebron that we don't like, and he does do
the I didn't get anybody fired when it did. But
Lebron James wants to be coach and he's a great player,
and the opportunity there was to be his last coach
the Lakers are historically the greatest basketball franchise in the
(03:58):
history of the NBA. The Celtics may win title number
was eighteen, but like and the Celtics sit there, go like, well,
hold on how many of those titles were in Minnesota
and how many were Okay, fine, but in the modern
era of the NBA, since Larry Bird is not walking
(04:20):
through that door, and Kevin McHale is not walking through
that door, and Robert Paris is not walking you got
one NBA title. Larry Bird's not walking through that door. No,
he's not. The Lakers are the greatest organization, historic organization
in the history of the sport, in the number two
media market, in one of, if not the greatest city
(04:42):
in the world. And I love New York and I
love Boston. I'm sending a daughter to go to to
go to school in Boston. I love it. But let's
be honest, New York for about two three weeks in
the summer is uninhabitable because it's so hot and humid,
and about two or three weeks in the winter uninhabitable
it is so cold. Same thing you can say for
the cold in Boston. That heat's not really a problem.
(05:04):
It's beautiful in the summer, incredible in the fall, but
the cold is ridiculous. There's not a day that's uninhabitable
in Los Angeles. And you can tell me all this
stuff about taxes. I've lived in Connecticut. The taxes are
hefty there too. He's not taking that job because of
one reason doesn't fit. Of course, the Lakers screwed up.
(05:28):
You can't let him walk out that door. He comes
into La he comes to negotiate, he doesn't walk out
that door. Any of you who are listening, who are
in sales, especially car sales, you're sitting there, notine in
your head. You know the deal that you walk out
of the dealership, good luck while you have him sitting there.
Whatever it takes to get them to agree to that deal.
(05:50):
He goes to New York to Madison Square Garden to
a Billy Joel show. It was over right then and there,
over right then there. Did you know? I don't know,
miss Did you know that Billy Joel has his number retired?
Not just in Madison Square Garden, but I believe, I believe,
(06:14):
and I used to be called the Excel Center. I
don't know what it's called in Hartford because he's played
there that many times. Billy Joel is New York, he
is Long Island, he is East Coast, and so is
Danny Hilt and he goes into the garden. Once you
go into the garden, you're like, dude, it's the garden
and the tirades on the sidelines, the back and forth
(06:37):
with the fans, the making of the faces. His dad's
a legend in Jersey. He's a Jersey shore guy in
the summer. This is not that hard to track. It
ain't about money. Well, the Lakers only offered him seventy
million dollars, just to you know, the Lakers traditionally like
to offer three year contracts. There head coach offered him six.
(07:00):
They extended themselves, And no, the Lakers are not a
perfect organization. They're incredibly cheap to people who aren't the players,
but they're trying to combat that. And six years, seventy
million dollars is that's money you can retire on. And
he could have come back and coached in college or
whatever you want it afterwards. It wasn't about the money.
You don't turn down or take a job simply because
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of the money. It's the where do I fit? Where
do I fit. And Danny Hurley is a guy that's
been overlooked and made to feel as though he's not
as good as his brother, or wasn't as special as
his dad, or and he's at a school that embraces
that he's in a league in the Big East that
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embraces that they embrace all the uniqueness that is Danny.
He's not for everybody, but he's for Yukon and he's
for the Big East, and it fits. I don't know
what my I mean. Like, listen, I grew up in
Los Angeles. I didn't necessarily even like the Lakers, but
the Lakers well tomorrow like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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to take that one. But that's because I grew up
in Southern California. I've lived in Southern California the last
seven years. I lived between the ages of six and nineteen, right,
and then one year in between. So I mean, you
do the math. Probably twenty years of my life I've
lived in Southern California. I'm super comfortable with it. I
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like New York. New York's great energy to me, but
and I would go back there every summer. But I
can't tell you that I'm like a New Yorker, I
can fake it. I don't like the Yankees, I don't
like the Rangers. I know this world is about fit.
Maturity is about knowing that you're not for everybody, and
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lean into the people who get you, who like you.
Surround yourself with those people. And when you're Danny Hurley,
who's gone from high school to Wagner to Rhode Island
to Yukon to back to back national titles, I get it. Like, look,
he's gonna have to create a whole new team next year.
He's got like one starter back, two rotation guys back.
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If there's ever a chance to leave, now's the chance.
The Lakers call. That's a hard it's a hard phone
call to put down, Like the Lakers just called and
offered me a job. And then you go there and
you walk down the hallway, and you see a hallway
when you walk into the Lakers facility and there's a
picture of George Miken and Will Chamberlain and Kareem and
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Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Magic Johnson,
Big Game, James Worthy and Byron Scott and Michael Cooper.
And then you walk further down the Hallway, and you
see Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neil and Derek Fisher with
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point seven seconds to go, and Pau Gasol and Lebron
James and seventeen banners of their own and Phil Jackson's
coach there and pat Riley's coach there, and you're sitting
there going, wait, this could all be mine. It's gonna
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all be yours. But he's from Jersey Lakeer guy right.
And when you catch your breath and you check yourself
and you find out where you fit, you go. You
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Let me lean into where I fit. I think that's
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haven't talked about Caitlin Clark's snub of not being on
the Olympic team. Maybe that's part of the discussion, maybe
it's not. We'll get to an upcoming fifteen minutes. My
guy Jeff Goodman will join us. He's really close with
the Hurlies, and we'll get his reaction to Danny Hurley
remaining at Yukon and spurning spurning the Lakers. But before
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we get to all that, it was a good weekend,
summer weekend, right, was the second full summer weekend, So
lots to get to that we loved, lots to get
to we hate. Let's play a little love and hate.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
God? I love you?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And what did you hate?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Meet these player? Hay is all right, I'm gonna start.
I love the Yankees Dodgers series. I just did little
Dodgers take over there? Huh Dodger fans traveling out to
New York to check it out.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Walking down the street, Yeah, walking.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Down the street, taking the subway, taking the seventh train
out there. I loved it. Like I love the Dodger takeover.
It's like, you know, LA sports fans so oftentimes get
a bad rap like the yank the Angels stink, and
three million people watch them, four million people watch the
watch the Dodgers, and of course soccer teams draw. But
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how about traveling with your baseball team to see the Yankees?
And what I think we can only hope if you're
a baseball fan is a precursor to the World Series.
I just loved it. I love the energy of a
baseball series. And while interleague play is part of every
series now, because you got fifteen on each side, that
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was one that was totally worthwhile. Let me go to Dan,
would you love for the weekend? Did he? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Doug? It is all golf related on my end because.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Scheffler, I mean, how good is that guy?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Amazing end ends up holding on and winning at the Memorial,
doing so in some drama at the end, Kalin Morra
Cowell was right on the heels, but Scheffler ends up prevailing.
That leads into the US Open, and it does provide
me with a dilemma because I am super stoked. US
Open is at Pinehurst number two and I am curious
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on your guys thoughts on this because I'm excited for
the week because I've played Pinehurst number two twice, most
recently in twenty twenty two, so just two years ago
was in the area. Do I do the social media
post my pictures from two years ago because it's that week?
Or is that coming off as bragging because it's not
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really for any journalistic No one's going to look at
my pictures and be like, thanks, I know more about
the US Open now because as of that picture you posted.
But should I post any picks from my trip to
Pinehurst two years ago this week? Because the US Open
is there just looking for something?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're like doing the Tim Brando. Something happens and you
have to somehow make it about yourself.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah. Yeah, Like somebody dies, then everybody puts a picture
of them with that person.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yep. And I don't know, like, listen, you do you
have a good pick of yourself at Pinehurst?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
I you know, I don't know if I do. I
think I've got good picture of the course, but I
don't think of any of me swinging. I don't think
my buddy took any So yeah, so maybe not. Maybe
that's the answer. Right there.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I just think you do. I don't think it's humble brag.
You don't do it all the time. You're not that
guys all the time. Yeah, I think you're good.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
I think if you have any hesitation about it, then
you should not do it. I think your hesitation is
probably the answer to your question. And to say, does
it come off as bragging if I put some on
social media, that's almost like a redundancy. What ninety percent
of social media is bragging. Ninety percent of social media
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is making something that everyone relates to about yourself. So
I mean, if you're not comfortable doing it, don't do
it fair enough?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Good with that, I'll just text them to you guys instead,
kind of like gets my fix. But then answers the question.
All right, that was my love though, I'm excited for
US Open Week.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's really good. It's a good one. Jason Stewart, usually
the hater give me sent me you up.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Well, first of all, I loved my most recent love is.
I love the restraint that Iowa Sam showed just now
because Doug came out and he said, hey, the second
full weekend of the summer just happened, and Iowa Sam
knows this because he said it on the air I
think ten days ago, and he showed restraint. He did
not correct you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
He did not say summer doesn't actually start.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Jill, consider yourself lucky Doug, because I was corrected a
couple of weeks ago by Sam what's that one?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
But it was my mistake because you did say unofficial
or either Doug or dancing and officially the start of summer.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That summer starts in late June. We found out in
first grade.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Twentieth right, But summer for most human beings starts at
the end of the world. Do we get right?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yep, I'm just going by the.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
By the way, the white hands were okay then until
Labor Day. I was twll of those.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I loved how Joe Mizzoulla handled a specific question over
the weekend. This question is coming at you from Vince
Goodwill of Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Hey, Joe Vin School or Yahoo Sports.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
For the first time since nineteen seventy five, this is
the NBA Finals where you have two black head coaches
given the plight sometimes with black head coaches in the NBA.
Do you think this is a significant moment? Do you
take pride in this? How do you view this or
do you not see it at all?
Speaker 7 (16:52):
I wonder how many of those are being Christian coaches.
David Olridge.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That David Aldridge is the best part, David. Please.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
The reason why I love that exchange is because Goodwill
really thought he was teeing up something for Missoula there,
and that Missoula was going to give this amazing answer
about race and coaches and the plight, and Goodwill was
going to get all the attention for asking that amazing question,
and it was just thrown back in his face. Joe
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Mizzoula in that moment made me a huge fan of him.
I just love what he did right there. He went
against the narrative and it was amazing. And you know me,
if you've worked with me long enough, you know I
love when things are awkward. I love when people are awkward.
I like discomfort. And that was a discomfort moment. Nobody
was able to respond. My moment of the weekende so good.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
David als was so good. David Aldridge, David Alders, what
about you there? I was shy.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I'm gonna love the even though they split the series
with the Mets, I'm gonna love the Phillies. Time in
London over the weekend. A hell of a team. The
Phillies are. I think that they I want to say
that they are tied with the Yankees for the best
record in baseball. Bryce Harper is star. He's the star
of Major League Baseball in my opinion outside of show
Hey a Tani.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Really that's your opinion that Bryce Harper is a star.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
He is the star. Him and show Hey, I think
are the top I mean top guys. He did a
little soccer slide to appease some of the the Brits
there at the at the game. Great crowd. It's a
great time to visit London in late May and early June.
It's finally warming up. It's pretty chilly there in earlier
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in May. I was there about a year ago at
this time. And yeah, so I love the love the
weekend that the Phillies had over there in London, the
London Series.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
All right, yeah, so we got to anybody else, got
anything else you want to say you loved? I mean
there's other stuff I love, but I you know, I'm
gonna show some restraint.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Because oh go ahead, keep it positive, because yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I actually loved all of the people pointing out what
I pointed out about Caitlin Clark not making the team.
She's like, we're all thinking the same thing. Sometimes I
feel like I'm a I just don't want to be
a contrarian. To be a contrarian, I'm like, am I
missing something here? Was this really that hard a call?
And it's like, gosh, women's basketball is so strewed up?
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Like this is a gift. What's the what was the
Rob Polinka thing? When they signed? I forget who they signed,
maybe D'Angelo Russell or something. It's a gift from Hannah
or something super cheesy over the top, forget who he signed,
but like, that's what this is. This is a gift
from above. And I just I actually was you know,
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It's like I want to make sure it wasn't a
hot take, but like, are we were crazy? And yeah,
So I actually liked everybody's reaction kind of being in unison.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
With this thing.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Liked it a lot, a lot, a lot. Let's get
the way hated all. When we start with hatred, we
start with Jason Stewart because it he exudes things he hates.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
The ironic thing is David.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
David Aldrich.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
The ironic thing is that the thing that you loved
is what my hate was. And there's like nineteen layers
to the Caitlin Clark not making the Olympic team. There's
nineteen layers. Here's one that I can't stand. All of
the NOA dolls that have been following the WNBA for
a long time, all of the women's sports reporters on
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Twitter over the weekend. You know what a great way
to get me to know for a fact that you're
too close to something to be objective. This is my
new way of knowing, Dan Bayer. If you say something
to me that I know you're too close to something
to be objective. Hey, if you put Kaitlyn Clark on,
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who do you take off? Okay? How about the I
looked at the roster, and it's my job to know
sports for a living. There are six women on that
roster that I've never heard of. They could be the
most amazing basketball players in the world. Why don't you
pick one of those and then put Kaitlin Clark on it?
How about that?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I do get a kick out of people. And my
apologies to Dan Patrick. He loved Dan Patrick, but he
wasn't the only one who said, like I mean, if
anybody got snub it was a rique at Gumbal Walley.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
By the way, oh of course, yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Of course. By the way, Dan, here here's the that's
going off of Twitter. She is a chucker, her team
never wins, and that's no one knows who areque.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah yeah, but that was that was their point.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
He actually said that, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I think so yeah, yeah, And I don't want to
name names.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I can't. Can't said that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Here's the other thing Jason's talking about personal in the break,
I said that. I said to Sam, I'm like, my
love and hate is going to be personal, and Sam goes,
mine too, Mine's going to be about Kaitlyn Clark. And
mine was about my golf game on Saturday. I didn't
say mine's gonna be personal today. Yeah, you said mine too,
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And I don't said. I don't know if Jason heard
him or not, but I said, mine's going to be
personally like, yeah, mine too, it's gonna be about Kaitlyn Clark.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And I said, well, okay, I was perfect night, remember,
so you might be right, but I don't. I don't
think I said that, Tug.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It was a perfect night. The call, and I just
I wish I was one of those people who could
just turn it off and accept the night for what.
It was a beautiful night in the seventies in southern
California with you know, a beautiful late evening sun, and
I just could not hit the ball with crap. And
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then the driver comes around a little bit, and then
your wedge game just stinks. So even if you hit
a great drive, you can't do anything with it, and
if you hit a great chip, it doesn't matter because
you've been a mess all the way getting there. It
was just one of those things I think for all
of us who love the game of golf hopefully can
relate with. But I couldn't even couldn't even put aside.
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My neighbor was playing with me, so it wasn't even
just me and him out having a you know, a
great time, but I was playing awful golf and it
still bothered me. So that was my hate from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Okay, what about you there?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yes, I am going to take the hanging fruit, and
it's fruit that might not have any juice left in it.
But the snub the Olympic team snub Kaitlyn Clark sitting
at home. I'll take that as my hate for the weekend.
My thought is this, like, even if she doesn't play
very much, if she were on the roster, let's say
she's like tenth to twelfth in the rotation, she gets
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in on mop up time, like they've already won it
seven times in a row. Like she's not gonna cost
them a gold medal. She's not gonna If she's gonna
be playing, it's gonna be like, you know, when the
games are already decided, and I think she would go
in there. I think she'd be great. Like she's she's
already played against WNBA players. If they're playing against like
some team from you know, Slovakia or something or Chile, like,
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she's probably gonna dominate, cause like they that the women's
you know, women's basketball in this country dominates all the time.
So if you take her an up and coming player,
she's gonna get in there. She's not gonna cost a
team anything. It would have been nothing but good publicity.
But alas she is not. So yeah, but who do
you take off?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Who do you take off? What about just.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Whoever is tenth eleventh? But yeah, goom, their play will
be inconsequential, like they'll be just getting in. We know
he's kidding, No, I know, I know, Sam, he's kidding.
I really just didn't want to try to repeat her,
you know, pronounce her name. I would have butchered it. So, yeah,
that's my eight for the weekend. Should have put her on,
but she'll have to wait four years from now. We
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could all be dead by then. Geez, that was dark.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wow, that wasn't really we're all dead in four years.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
We could be That's what I'm saying. Ye, I was
like next week, I could be dead by then. Supposed
to be a joke.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
No, it went over well yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, clearly we all not on the outside and maybe
not on the inside.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
We have a new intern, Dean, and it's Dean's first
day and Dean goes to see you Boulder. Sam dropped,
Uh was it a Dean on? Like it was trying
to be a Deon? Sanders pund Was that what it was?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Dean?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
It should be in podcast called Dean on Dion. How
about that?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, that wasn't the joke you were, Yeah, yeah, it's
not been a good day for Sam's jokes.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
How about this hasn't how about when I have an
awkward joke like this, I play.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
This David Oldridge.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That saves me a little bit, David David Aldrich. Uh,
I got one something I hate. Steve Lets's new head
coach at Mile Montern, Oklahoma State, and he was on
John Rothstein's podcast and he said that Oklahoma State's gonna
play Oklahoma Bedlam at the pay Com Center, which is
in oklaham City where the Thunder play. And so most
people go, like, that's awesome. You know, Oklahoma leaves for
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the SEC in Oklahoma State stays in the Big Twelve,
and hey, the rivals still keep this rivalry going. I
hate it. I hate it because what is the I
don't know. I don't know if there's punishment, but there's
cause and effect. Mike Gundy, who's the head coach of
Oklahoma State, as a former Oaklhama State quarterback and alumni,
and uh, I think the longest ten year head coach
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in the Big Twelve, was like, that series is over.
You didn't want to stay in the league. Series is over.
The basketball program still playing them? Why And the answer
is quite obvious. It's because of money, right, And they
make some money on a game playing a neutral site.
Get some people in pay coon. But you know, considering
what the University of Oklahoma did to their fellow Oklahoma
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school's only two public Division one institutions in the state
of Oklahoma, Okay, they had been tied the hip, competed
in football every year on longest uninterrupted series in all
of college football, and because they wanted the financial gain
of the SEC, they left their brethren school behind and
(27:44):
did so. And remember they did so well negotiating with
their Big twelve brethren the new TV deal and didn't
tell anybody, and then they go, hey, by the way,
you know deal, we're out to the SEC. So yeah,
I just I cannot believe that, Like, you didn't let
it go a year or two years or three years
(28:04):
to where there was kind of a build up of, hey,
we'd like to see that series back and maybe have
it on your terms more. Feel like he acquiesced to
the almighty dollar. Don't love it hate it in fact,
h right, that's a little love and hate from the weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
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Speaker 1 (28:29):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Speaking of Billy Joel. Uh,
we were talking about Billy Joel because Bobby Hurley went
to Dan Bobby Danny Hurley went to the Billy Joel concert.
Was that Saturday night or after a meeting with the
Lakers on Friday. Favorite Billy Joel song, Sam.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
I'd have to save my life?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, leave me alone? About you there, Dan Byer, favorite
Billy Joel song, Alan Town, Allentown, great song Allentown. Uh,
Jason Stewart, we did that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
We did this exact exchange about three weeks ago. Mine
has not changed. It's still rock and roll to me. Yeah,
we did, Dan, was it three or four weeks ago? Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It was.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'll tell you DejaVu, DejaVu you Uh, I do you
remember what mine was?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Piano man, No.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's too obvious.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No. No, New York State of Mine, New York State
of Mine. And uh, Anthony's song, which is moving out
would be would be number two. So uh, but I
mean there's an Uptown girls. Great piano man's great. He
actually wrote I believe he wrote Shameless, which is my
(29:59):
favorite Garth Brooks song. Anyway, I belie Joel pretty good.
Celtics also pretty good. They're up two games none on
the Dallas Mavericks. I would say disappointing series too. You know,
last night's game was competitive, really competitive and compelling. Game
one was it got competitive in the second half. But man,
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when you're just when you're getting selecked at the end
of the first quarter into halftime, it's really hard, you know,
especially in a weekday game, to really pay attention to it.
I do think that it's one of those deals where
for so long, one we've considered the Eastern Conference weaker,
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but two we've come to believe that the regular season
doesn't really matter. That we shouldn't have seen this coming.
But the Celtics were the best team in the regular season,
and when they had Prizingis and they not have Perzingis
moping forwards. He's, as you heard from Dan Byer, some
(31:07):
was it not preliminary, precautionary examination. But when they have Perzingis, like,
that's the best roster and the best team in the
NBA shouldn't be a surprise. But man, have they defended
and have they figured out ways to attack? Luca on
defense and then not let anybody else going on offense.
Here's just Joe Mizoula talking about Jason Tatum's impact on
(31:30):
the team.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Jason makes greatness look easy. He does it in a
lot of different ways. He does it on defense, does
it on rebounding, does it on passing, does it on screening.
He's a tremendous player. Hard to coach him, and he
has the ability to affect the game in different ways.
We're a different team, but it takes everybody to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Here's Jason Tatum on how he's played so far.
Speaker 9 (31:48):
I've been here before and we didn't win, and it's
just like, you know, we're so close to what we're
trying to accomplish. Why would I let my ego or
for my need score all the points to get in
the way of that. There are going to be times
where you know, I need to score and obviously I
need to shoot better. Yeah, Lee, But we always talk about, dude,
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whatever it takes, for however long it takes.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, I think like, look, we're making Jason Tatum and
his assists last night to be heroic. He was six
of twenty two from the field.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
He's still but maybe that makes it more impressive. The
Celtics have played really well and he hasn't shot the
bawa yet at all, hasn't shout the bow yet at all.
And I've said this previously about series where hey, there's
gonna be a game where Luka Doncik wins a game
on his own. There'll be a game which Jason Tatum
breaks through. This one feels a lot like the Warriors series.
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You know, the Warriors had a couple of series like
this with you know, before they had KD and then
when they went last time to beat the Celtics, where
first couple of games you keep f in check and
people are like, well, can Steph Curry even be the MVP?
And then all of a sudden he breaks out of
me like, Okay, Steph Curry's amazing, and that's happened previously.
I feel like we're gonna have that. But how can
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he not be impressed by what the Celtics are doing
at both ends of the floor. And then you got
to point out Luca. I get that you're all banged
up and bandaged up and you you look like the
human bruised and Tom Peabody, but man, he hadn't guarded
anybody at all in this series, and they're picking on him.
That's what they do in the NBA. All right, So
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, we'll get
with Rick Buker in moments as he'll join us. I'm
(33:36):
sure he's got a ton of work to do with
the with the news that Danny Hurley is not going
to be the Lakers head coach, and so the question becomes,
do they turn back to JJ Reddick? Let me, let's
welcome him in. He's covered the NBA for as long
as I've been in the profession. He's Rick Buker. He
works for Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com. Buke,
What's what's your reaction to Danny Hurley turning down a
(33:57):
reported six years, seventy million dollars deal to be Lakers
head coach.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
My first thought is, man, does this look bad for
the Lakers? And that but that they lived up to
their reputation of low balling coaches and not spending on
the staff, and you know, where they go from here
(34:24):
is going to feel like a Plan CD or F.
When you think about the Los Angeles Lakers and how
iconic that franchise is it's it's a little it's a
little mind boggling. But for six I think the offer
was six years, seventy million, eleven million. While you know
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it was reported that that would put him in the
top six, it's it's about the overall average of what
NBA coaches are making and for Hurley to make the
leap from Yukon to LA and all that he would
have to to deal with. I just felt it was
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going to have to be a can't refuse type number,
and that that was the number that was being thrown
around in a lot of places, talking closer to one
hundred milie and so you know, without that, uh not
really when I saw the when I saw the number
that that was offered, I was like, I'm not surprised.
(35:27):
I'm not surprised that Hurley didn't go for that. Yukon,
he had a deal sitting on the table that he
had not signed. I'm told that the deal that he
is going to sign now has been sweetened. It puts
him more in line with Bill self, who's who's making
ten mil and you know, the top two or three guys.
So uh, I feel like this is a gambit that
(35:50):
I'm not sure it was going to work, but the
Lakers needed to make it happen. That they needed this
to happen because anything else, any other candidate they've had,
I'm not sure that Dan Hurley would have worked, but
I could have made a case where it's had far
better chance of working than any of the other names
that I've heard so far.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Well, there's a lot there. Let's let's and look, I
did the Laker No. No, but I mean, like I agree,
and I disagree on some level. Okay, I agree in that, Yeah,
you got to give him an offer you can't refuse, right,
you go to the Godfather. On the other hands, like
normally they were doing three year deals and four year deals,
six years. To them, that's a big thing, right, that's
(36:30):
that's a big thing. So to in the Lakers perceptors
like dude, like this guy has never coached today in
the NBA, and and it was a curious fit. Right.
It's one of those where all these things can be
Lebron can want to be coached, and the Lakers want
a legit coach and they want somebody to take them
into the next century as a coach. But Danny does
(36:54):
not feel like the Lakers head coach. Nor does he
feel like a guy, and nor does his offense or
style feel like really josh with with with with Lebron.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
Uh one hundred percent on over this. But I my
thought always was was is that the long term deal?
Because you were going to have him, you know, usher
you through the remainder of the Lebron era and then
this was really about post Lebron. And I was told
that Lebron was infatuated with the idea of of Hurley
(37:28):
coaching Broni and that that was one of the the
attractive elements. I agree. I agree with you, like I'm
watching Tate of of Yukon and not one of his players.
It's like a cattle protu. If you've dribbled the ball
three times.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
You're the map.
Speaker 10 (37:48):
It was almost almost looked like a team rule. We
don't dribble the ball more than three times. Nobody stands
still more than a second. Like and being able to
find the players to be able to play that system effectively.
At the NBA level, it's generally you don't you don't
come in with a system in the NBA. You come
in and you look at the personnel that you can
(38:09):
hand it and you figure out what system you can
play with that. And I don't know that. I mean,
Dan to this point has not demonstrated that he can
do that. He's very good at finding the players to
make his system work. I don't know that that would
work at the NBA level. But let's stop and take
a step back. If you're the Lakers and you're saying, yeah,
(38:29):
we don't think that's gonna work, why are you even entertaining?
Why are you going down this road?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay, so let me let me ask you this. Are
we to buy the story that this was their plan
a all along? Because because I gotta tell you last week,
at the start of the week, I was told by
I was called by a couple of people who are
assistant coaches who are out of work. They're like, hey,
(38:58):
do you know JJ, because I heard they're trying to
find assistance to fit with to fit with them. And
then all of a sudden Friday, it's like, this is
their plan all along. So what happened with the JJ thing.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Well, they were they What I understand is that they
were struggling to find the coaching staff. They knew that
they needed to find the right coaching staff for this
to work with JJ, and they weren't able to find
the kind of guys getting my understanding is with James Barrego.
The guys who had the experiences they felt comfortable, could
(39:32):
could be his could be the caddies, could be could
make this work. And so they they got stuck and
they started looking, Okay, so what else can we do?
And they got word that Hurley had a offer on
his desk that he had not signed, and they.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Had not It's exactly what I thought. This is exactly
this is exactly what I was told happened, which is
which is they thought, Hey, like the JJ thing, this
find work. Who else is available? Like you know, I
heard Bobby Hurley, I'm Danny Hurley on signed his deal
Like really.
Speaker 10 (40:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and so and so that's what led
them down that road to to explore that. And then
you know, I'm not going to get into the ins
and outs of how our our league is reported on
these days. But then it became a matter of trying
to make somebody look bad for saying that they were
(40:29):
zeroing in on JJ Reddick. And and so let's take
it another level and say he was never the candidate
when or he was never the primary target. When if
that was the case, then then it should have somebody
should have been reporting that Dan Hurley was Plan A
and that didn't happen until what like three or four
days ago. So I just there's a lot of machinations
(40:54):
behind the scenes on as there always are with the
with the Lakers, that have colored how this story has gone.
But for me, the bottom line is like the Lakers
are just too storied of a franchise to be sitting
here in June with not I mean, it's one thing
(41:17):
for Cleveland not to have their head coach. It's completely
other thing for the Lakers to have explored various options
and not have a ready made, like obvious choice that
they should be going after and that should want to
coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
So is it's job?
Speaker 10 (41:41):
I wish I could tell you. I Mean, it just
seems like can they That's such a face plant if
you have to turn back to that and then make
the best of it that you can. And then there's
the weird there's the whole weird thing of JJ you know,
coming after the report that uh you know that they
(42:05):
were zeroing in on him, and it uh it just
gets really murky. So I like, I have not heard
another name. I have not heard who the target is
at this point, so by default, I mean, the only
other name I've heard is like, are they going to
go after Jay Wright?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Now?
Speaker 10 (42:24):
And but I mean that's all.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
The only guy likes the Jersey Shore more than Danny
Hurley is Jay Wright. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (42:30):
Yeah, So I'm not giving that any creedis I'm just
telling you, like, that's where we are, Like, I think
people are just throwing names at the wall to say, hey,
but again, that's kind of how we got to Danny Hurley.
So who knows?
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Wow?
Speaker 10 (42:47):
I mean, I just I can still bog with my mind.
We're talking about the Los Angeles Lakers, I know, And
and we're in this place where it's like, who can
we get to coach? Just about this? This is what
we are talking about. Who can we get to coach
the Los Angeles Lakers? It's an extraordinary place to be.
(43:12):
It would be one thing is like who can who
would be willing to coach the Charles Hornets? How much
are we gonna have to pay them? That that that
the separation for those who may are listening and may
not understand Los Angeles Lakers shouldn't have to be scrambling
to find somebody to take their job, and yet it
feels like that is exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
How much blame do we put on Lebron?
Speaker 10 (43:39):
Uh? I mean I can't. I can't in this case,
just because whatever blame you would put on him, he
is being uh, he is being afforded that influence by
the Lakers and uh, and so I'm not. And from
what I know of how Lebron approached these things is
(44:01):
it's a very passive, aggressive approach.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
He's not going to.
Speaker 10 (44:04):
Tell you who he wants specifically or whatever. He's not
going to say, hey, get this guy and I'll be happy.
You just find out like he's gonna let you hire
or you want to hire, and then when it doesn't work,
he'll let you know or he'll let the world know.
But it's never it's never overt conversation about this is
(44:28):
the guy that I want. He'll he'll give you, he'll
he'll give you a sense of where he wants you
to go, but it's not it's not definitive. And then
he's got plausible deniability when it's when it doesn't work.
So in all of this. I just I don't like
whatever Lebron has done over the course of his career,
in whatever places he's done it. I always look at
(44:50):
management and say, well, you you gave him that cachet,
You gave him that ability to tell you raide the
farm for Anthony Davis. So am I really gonna Am
I gonna blame Lebron when it's it's ultimately you that
are pulling the triggers.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
No? I I look, I wouldn't blame him for the
Hurley thing, but the fact that it's going to be
really hard for them to find a coach I do
think is he's he's a huge factor in that.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
Well, now that's a different question.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
No, I understand, I understand, like I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not in any way, uh diminishing your answer on
the Hurley thing. I'm simply voting the conversation.
Speaker 10 (45:33):
No. But but I'm I'm not blaming Lebron for whatever
happens in terms of who they hire as a head coach,
because ultimately it's the Lakers, not Lebron, hiring that head coach.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Yes, but and and yes, but but it's the do
you do you want to deal with the Lebronny thing, like.
Speaker 10 (45:52):
Well, do you now that's that's all.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
You got to do with lebron thing? Like like you said, like,
I he's not going to move on offense, right, that's
a hard one. You know, his agency, his agency reps,
you know, kind of half the team, he's wheeled his power,
and then like you're gonna have to knowly bring his
son up and then play him.
Speaker 10 (46:14):
Yeah, well this was the thing for me. It was
it was like when I was talking to a bunch
of different people in the league about like do you
think that this Hurley thing could work? And they were like,
you know what what happens? Like one executives like I'm
just waiting for the time when you know, Hurley's drawing
(46:36):
something on the clipboard and Lebron rips it out of
his hands. And I was like, I'm waiting for the
times that Lebron doesn't rotate on defense and he's coming
off the floor and Hurley's yelling at him, like like
because all of that, if Hurley stays true to form
and Lebron stays two toform, all of those things were
going to happen eventually. And then you throw the whole
Bronni thing in. Yeah, No, I'm not. I'm not saying
(46:58):
that it's a I think the job is not as
attractive because of the Lebron Browny factor that anybody coming
in is going to have to handle. But that's different
than do I blame Lebron for the fact that they
(47:18):
haven't been able to hire a head coach yet. There's
a distinction for me between no.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Question, no question. Last thing is just kind of a
quick one. Who do we give the most credit on
the Celtics too? Doesn't have to be a players to
be coach, could be Brad. I would give it to Brad.
I think it's an incredibly put together roster. But I
don't want to diminish Missoula. He's done a great job
with them, and I think they have really, really good players.
(47:44):
I think I think there Drew Holiday, for example, is
somebody who like, statistically you don't understand basketball, but he's
better than Lillard. He's a better basketball player. He helps,
he affects winning more. But again, I think that's Brad.
But what about you?
Speaker 10 (47:58):
Yeah, well, look, he but the ideal pieces around his
core of Brown and Tatum, with Drew Holliday and christopsporzingis
just filled two massive holes, and personality wise, they were
perfect editions. But I think this is the difficulty is
like trying to the pinpoint one particular person, because I
(48:20):
think what has made the Celtics so strong is that
everybody is willing take a part and not be the guy.
Mizula has been shrewd in this series. I give him
that he's made some really deft moves and how he's
he's handled things, and he's done ample a couple of
simple things that previous coaches, supposedly more experienced, did not do.
(48:43):
But Tatum being had you know, like, okay, I go
six or twenty two. But I will, I will continue
to be aggressive and I'll it looks clunky. He's not
a natural passer, but he's he's giving up the ball
and he's finding guys and he's got guys who can
knock down. So I just I credit I credit them
(49:04):
across the board. I think it has been a collective effort.
It's really hard for me to take one person and
put them above the rest. If you if you did
that with anybody, probably would be brad because you've put
this whole conglomer.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Together awesome stuff, Buke, good work. Thanks for joining us.
Really appreciate it, my pleasure. Rick Bucker joined us Fox
Sports One and Foxsports dot Com. He joined us in
the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tradit
Host
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