June 11, 2024 • 31 mins
Doug riffs on Danny Hurley and his decision to stay at UConn. Doug reacts to Joy Taylor's take about Caitlin Clark's omission from the US National Team. Doug chooses among deserving candidates who Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. Plus, Charles Barkley makes today's installment of "Because We Can".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What it it's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio.
What's good? How you doing? You do it? How you
doing so? My mom has an expression, your brom probably
has the same which goes, my mom didn't raise stupid kids,
(00:33):
and you can't be. You shouldn't be stupid either, right,
And I like to I do dumb things. I'm not
going to sit here and lie to you and act
like I've been perfect in my life or I haven't
made some silly mistakes or just some dumb mistakes. But
my mom did not raise stupid kids. And uh, one
thing you need to always have is leverage. Okay, leverage
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and careful way to use it too much. Don't ever
leverage something that you're not willing to take. But there's
all different sorts of business aspects to the Danny Hurley
turning down the Lakers, and I'll get to the leverage
aspect of it, to the car sales aspect of it,
(01:21):
but I do want to start with this. I'm not
a sky as falling guy. The Lakers still have Lebron.
They still have Anthony Davis. There's still the Los Angeles Lakers,
this stuff, the Laker Girls, Laker Lighting. Next year, Crypto
will be completely theirs as a basketball which is good
and is bad, but it does have a ton of
(01:42):
recent Laker history in it, and they get LA Live
that goes with it. So I'm not sitting here telling
you the Lakers brand is dead or maybe not even
diminished as some have reported it. But I will tell
you that there's a scenario, Okay, there's a reasonable scenario
(02:03):
where the Clippers, who can't get out of their own way,
could own the city. The likelihood is small, but it
is increasing by the day. Keep in mind, the Clippers
have moved into Inglewood. Inglewood is the former home of
the Lakers. Inglewood is a city known as City of Champions.
(02:24):
And even though there is not the infrastructure in the
city the way there is in downtown la with LA
Live and with all the high rises. I mean, just
so you know, twenty five years ago where La Live
is now, where Staples is now, was skid row. It
was one of the worst places in the country to
be around. It does have some homeless but all those
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high rises people have moved into downtown and it's a
legit spot to go out see a concert. That got
the Nokia Theater right next to it. So Fi is
in Inglewood, but also the YouTube Theater, which is within Sofi.
Like people don't know, this was a five thousand seat
indoor concert venue inside Sofi. And then right next door
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is into a dome where the Clippers are building what
they believe is the nicest said vi arena in the country.
So there's a world there where if the Lakers don't
fix this thing, and of course the Clippers would actually
have to win in the postseason. I don't think it
ever becomes a Clippers town, But man, does it flip
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things really really quickly in terms of who runs a town.
Who doesn't. But but there's so much history, there's so
much tradition, and again they still have Anthony Davis and
Lebron James. It's gonna be hard to screw it up.
So did they screw it up? Did Danny Hurley actually
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legitimately want the job? And was he originally their primary candidate?
I told you yesterday I didn't believe he was their
primary candidate. What I think happened is what and I
said this previously, is that they thought they were trying
to get a deal done with JJ. They started calling
around to assistant coaches and they got a very lukewarm
response in terms of who wanted to work with JJ.
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And when they decided, you know, we're not really into that,
what else do you have? I would guess, again, this
is just guessing because I haven't spoken to Brett just
who's the agent for James Barrego but also the agent
for Danny Hurley. He's probably the most powerful basketball agent.
There's a couple guys there. But when I found out
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he was the agent, I was like, huh, So when
you're talking to the Lakers, and the Lakers clearly didn't
love the idea of Barrego. You talked to Barrego's agent
and he's like, you know, well, I do have who
hasn't signed his deal as Danny Hurley, And they said,
is he interested? And he said, I don't know, I'll ask,
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And so he asked, and he was interested. Was he
really interested or did he simply want to get a
big offer so it could increase the offer of Yukon
And oh yeah, by the way, also make Yukon look
better by turning down an NBA j own with the
Lakers in order to remain at Yukon. It does feel
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somewhat likely, does feel so unlikely, and had he stayed
at Yukon, that marriage still would have fit and it
would have made sense, and you could have seen him
potentially go into the NBA, which you can you can now.
But it's a crazy thing that's happened. Where now the
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Lakers because they had turned so much attention to Danny
Hurley because the numbers got out, You're JJ Reddick and
you're sitting there going like, wait a second, now, I'm
not just a second choice, but you moved heaven and
Earth to get somebody else who wasn't in the conversation
when we were talking about the job. It feels like
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they both kind of moved on, and the question becomes
did Danny Hurley really want the job to just do
it to get his deal done at Yukon. I think
the answer is a little bit of both. I truly do.
I think it's a little bit of both. And the
big element to it that's interesting is did Danny Hurley
want the job if it was one hundred million dollars?
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And do the Lakers try and come in. What's not cheap? Right?
Six years seventy million dollars is not cheap. But when
you saw that number being floated around, that was the ask,
and the fact that they wouldn't get to the ask
allowed him to walk out the door. And here's where
it's just like buying a car once you want, Once
the guy walks out the door, you probably nelse ever
sell that car. That's just a reality to it. So
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do I think Danny used his leverage? Hell yeah, why
wouldn't he do? I think he wanted the job. He
probably did if it was fuck you money, and one
hundred million dollars is fuck you money. It's twice what
Yukon was willing to go to. Twice is okay that
I'll do it for, you know that I'll do it for.
And the Lakers refuse. And so now the Lakers they
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look worse off than they probably are. You know, to
think about the list of people who are potential candidate.
Jay Wright's not leaving what he's doing, you know, He's
just not He doesn't want to do it anymore. He
likes doing television, he likes doing corporate speaking, he likes
not having the pressure. He likes having a life. So
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everybody else has some sort of notable flaw, and none
of them are worth more than seventy million dollars, and
many of them aren't worth seventy million dollars. But once
you extended yourself to that level, that's what the going
rate is going to be if you want to find
the next Laker coach. So, yeah, they're little screwed, so
it works. My mom didn't raise stupid children. That's what
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my mom always said. So if you're Rob Polinka and
you're going to go all in and it's going to
become as public as it was with Danny Hurley, you
got to get the guy, and you got to be
willing to overpay. And once you saw that number in
one hundred million dollars, you can't have the meeting unless
you're willing to go there.
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Fox Sports One, we call it what does the Fox Say?
Here's Joy Taylor talking about Kaitlin Clark's omission from the
Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, I don't think it was disrespectful to leave Caitlin
Clark off the Olympic rosser. She is not one of
the twelve best professional basketball players in the United States
of America right now. The goal of the US women's
basketball team is to win a gold medal.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is to win.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That is their goal. That is the goal of the
people that put this team together. That is the goal
of the team heading to Paris, and that should be
their only goal. Ratings is somebody else's problem, and that
is not the priority, nor should it be even considered
when you're talking about putting together a roster that is
going to compete at the highest level at the biggest
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stage in the world, which is the Olympics. Remember how
salty we got when the men weren't winning the goal.
That was a problem. We're not getting involved in this.
This is the best team in the world. It is
a very hard team to make. They take a lot
of considerations for who makes this team. Not just who
the best players are, but how they're going to play together,
because they aren't just assembling an all star group, They're
putting together a team of players that have to play together.
(09:44):
Caitlin is going to have an incredible career. She will
have an opportunity to go to the Olympics, she will
have an opportunity to develop as a player.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think she is.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Going to be one of the greatest players that the
game has ever seen. I've enjoyed watching her start in
the WNBA. But all of those factors, the ratings, the
popular already people paying attention to it, growing the game.
That's not the responsibility of the US women's national team.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Joy makes a lot of good points she misses on
a lot of other ones. The first thing is she says, well,
she compares it to the men. The first thing is
the women have never really been challenged, right and by
the way, I'd even know because I had to look
it up, because nobody gives a shit until Caitlin Clark.
But we'll get to that point in the second. First
of all, they've never really been challenged. But the point
(10:28):
that she made about the goal is to build the
best team. I agree the best team does not always
have the twelve best players. It doesn't, doesn't. You have
to have probably two, if not three players on your
roster who are gonna be okay, not playing very much.
(10:49):
That's the reality in the game. Is that matter? That's
the reality. Actually, if you'd like, let's do a little
homework assignment. Okay, this is a real quick one. The
year is two thousand and Uh, the year is two
thand and twenty one. Remember the COVID Olympics were pushed
back a year. So the twelve players that were selected included, Okay,
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Kevin Love, right, Kevin Love, Keldon Johnson, Bam out of Bio,
and Chris Middleton. Now, some of it was because, like
Lebron James didn't play a right some of who's because
(11:35):
Lebron James didn't play. Uh, Drew Holiday was on that team.
No one considered Drew Holiday, Kevin Love, Kelden Johnson, Bam
out of Bayo, one of the twelve best players in
the world and definitely twelve best Americans playing in the NBA.
Did they know. Here's the thing, Okay, I is this
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not out of a lack of respect for Joy, but
she's directly contradicted herself. If the goal is to build
the best team, then you build the best team. Secondly,
bullshit in it. It's not to It's not about fucking ratings.
Nobody cares about women's basketball. Nobody ever cared. The reason
that every ratings record has been changed is because of
one fucking person. And is she the twelfth best or
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the twenty fifth best? I don't fucking care. Can she
be the twelfth person on the roster? Of course she can? Like,
what are we doing when you have to come up
with the logical solusion as to what they haven't been challenged.
They're not gonna lose. The last three spots on the
roster don't really matter as long as she's not gonna
be a pain the fucking ass about playing time. She's great.
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Let her play. The problem is they don't want to
cut one of these other women. Why is Diana Tarassi
still on the roster? Explain that one to me? Is
she one of the twelve best persons historically? She's an
all time great? But you have her on the roster? Why?
Because she's Dinah Tiraze. This same reason that Diane Ttrassi
was on the team when she was a rookie, Like wait, what, Yeah,
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she was on her team as a rookie. Now she's
one of the greatest women's basketball players ever, one of
the greatest college basketball players ever. But she can't tell
me she was one of the best twelve best Americans
on earth when she was on the Now I don't
know because I didn't watch. You know why, because nobody
fucking watched. There is zero difference in the likelihood of
them winning a gold medal if she's honor off the team.
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If you put together the best team, it does not
always have the twelve best players. And it's a sport
that no one's given a shit about until this very moment.
And she's the reason I didn't see you starter her
and player thirty five minutes? Did you? Did you? Did
anybody know but this, like oh my god, we have
have the to best players or else like no, you didn't.
People are on for political reasons and oh yeah, by
the way, like let's not act like she's not a
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winning player. Coming going back to the college years, even
if you go to the dream team, like Larry Bird
was a shell of himself, He wasn't the best player.
Why did they include Isaiah Thomas because Isaiah Thomas is
an asshole. Everybody fucking hated Isaiah Thomas. Don't believe me,
Google search for a second. Okay. He made it out
that Magic Johnson, his best friend, was gay. He said
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Larry Bird was only viewed as one of the all
time greats because he was whitey. He didn't pass. He
froze out Michael Jordan in the All Star Game. Michael
hated him, Larry hated him, Magic hated him. That the
three most powerful players in the history of USA basketball,
and they all said, fuck you. I don't want you
want me to go travel for a month, leave my
family and play these bullshit games. All right, Fine, I
(14:31):
don't want Isaiah Thomas with me. So they took Christian Layner.
So this idea that, oh, you have to deliy, you
have to have the twelve best players I'm making This
is the national commentary that people are like, shut the
fuck up. Reality is. Of course, politics play a part.
You're trying to grow the game. She's an unbelievable and yes,
she's gonna have a great career. And you know what,
you're gonna miss this window. You're gonna fuck it up,
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which is what they're doing. They're all fucking this thing up.
It's a gold mine. Everybody wins. Everybody wins. And now
what you've done is you've made out. There's going to
be a portion of people that believe the reason she's
not on the team is the other women are jealous,
and that may be a portion of it. The other
woman of jealous. What's that gonna do. It's gonna turn
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this entire movement of basketball fans against this team, Like, man,
fuck them. They don't even know what they got when
they got it. Here's Dan Patrick talk about Dan Hurley
turned down the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Did you pay enough? Could you have paid him more?
Dan Hurley wanted security, he wanted money, but I think
in the end he was going to get both at Connecticut.
Now it's not going to be on the level of
what he was going to have with the Lakers. But
with the Lakers going into a tricky situation, Lebron ad
maybe you have to bring in Brownie and you have
(15:47):
to learn that job. You know, the NBA, you have
to learn. You have to adapt to that. The players,
the amount of money that they make, they can say
no to you. They don't want to play tonight. There's
load management. There's a lot going on now. There's a
lot going on in college basketball as well. But it
feels like, as I said earlier, Dan Hurley has cracked
the code a little bit here. Now you'd go after
(16:09):
a couple of big names. He gets transfers in there,
and he's also getting recruits that may not be five star.
You got some nil money to play with here. He
has a system in place. Now, how does this sound
Dan Hurley? We reached out, he can't join us today's
on the recruiting trail. If he goes into a recruits
home today and says the following, I'd rather coach you
(16:32):
than I would Lebron.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Of course. I mean that's the essence of recruiting, is
you turn anything into a positive. We talked about this
a lot early on the pod. I think there was
some leverage to it. I definitely think he can turn
it into the I'd rather be at Yukon than coaching
and the Lakers. That's how great Yukon is. The reality is,
if the Lakers would have offered him a hundred million dollars,
he'd be the Lakers head coach. Here's LeVar Arrington talk
(17:03):
about Mike Tomlin's extension with the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I'm happy to hear it. I know there's probably just
knowing how our culture is, you know, we always want
coaches gone, like the entire state, right, We're like that
in Philly, We're like that in Pittsburgh. For one reason
or another. We always find the negatives and things and
always want something different, want something new. You know, sometimes
(17:28):
the worst thing that you can do is be a
knowledgeable sports fan, because when you have the knowledge of
understanding sports and like simplicities of what go into some
of the aspects of it, you use those aspects to
create narratives and judgments. And I feel like Mike Tomlin
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has been victimized by that. Now I'm not saying he's
a victim. I'm just saying the way that he's been
talked about in the media, you know, in Pittsburgh locally,
the way he's been talked about by fans some fans locally,
And I never understood it, you know, I just never
understood why that's the approach. Why there's so much you know,
(18:12):
kind of like intensity towards when Mike Tomlin isn't as
successful as the fans would like.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Look I think Mike Tomlin made some really bad decisions
in the offensive side of the football. Some are his
some are his old general managers, some of his current
general managers. But the ability to stay at or above
five hundred for the life of his career is remarkable.
Is that the standard for the Pittsburgh Steelers. No, but
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without finding the next Ben Roethlisberger, it's actually pretty damn impressive.
The issue with the Steelers is that if you broom Tomlin,
you have to have the next guy ready to go.
You have to have the right guy ready to go.
And I don't think that they're there. I don't think
they know who that replacement is. So you stick with
the guy who brought you, knowing he's plenty good enough
(19:08):
if you can figure out the quarterback situation. That's what
the Fox said same.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
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annoying Jason Stewart and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Hey, Doug Lebron James was recently featured in this segment,
and my point about Lebron is always this. He wants
to give the perception that he's sophisticated. Like it's not
just good enough to be a famous person that's wildly rich.
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He needs to also be perceived sophisticated. Case in point,
he sends out this tweet last night. I'm guessing he
was paid by the movie company, but he says movie
is so damn good. He's referring to Bad Boys RD
or Die. Movie is so damn good. The cinematography is insane.
(20:18):
Will and Marty maher connection is undefeated, action packed, funny
as hell, and simply just a great watch. Now, my
guess is that last part action packed, funny as hell,
and simply a great watch is what he thinks about
the movie. That's like, that's a really good thing to
say from somebody who just enjoys going to movies. That's
(20:38):
a very simple way of putting it. It's to the
point I think he called up one of his filmmaking
buddies for this part. The cinematography is insane. I don't
nobody mentions the cinematography other than filmmakers and like movie critics.
I think he went to one of his filmmaking buddies
and said, you know, I've got this tweet, but it's
(20:59):
just isn't sophisticated enough. What's so like a buzz term
that I could use to show that I'm really smart?
And his buddies like could go with cinematography?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, going solid solid. Does his film studio own any
piece of that production?
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Maybe? Maybe? I don't know. It made one hundred and
four million dollars worldwide over the weekend. That's pretiod.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Noh.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I was thinking about going and seeing it. You know,
it's like it's a Will Smith movie. I do think
it's interesting that they released a Will Smith movie. It
didn't do the fourth of July.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Weird.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh, that reminds me of Stephen A. Smith did. He's
still I think he doubled down on his rent the
other day. He was like, I'm not gonna go watch
a Will Smith movie until he sits down with the
black community and explains why he slapped Chris Rock And meanwhile,
ABC and at ESPN are running bad boys. Rider Die
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adds the entire finals. Oh man, that was good. Okay,
So what annoys me most about this Danny Hurley story
is the Woje' part the Adrian roj Narowski part of this.
So remember last Thursday, I want to say it was
(22:19):
the world was shocked when woj sent out a tweet
saying that the Lakers are circling Danny Hurley, and then
he made the mistake of saying he has been their
number one choice from the very beginning, and that just
truck everybody is odd because the Lakers can't keep a
secret worth a shit, and you're telling me they've gone
(22:40):
weeks of this and nobody heard anything about it, and
that was just strange. And then you hear Shaan's that
went on i think his stadium show today and said.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
This, he met with JJ Reddick, once, he met with
James Brigo a summertime solo, and then James Brigo came
into the facility, met with everyone, met with ownership, and
then the last week on Wednesday turned their attention. I'm
told to Dan Hurley and he was not the number
one candidate, the number one guy.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
To go pursue from the start, from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So if you're if you're Adrian Wojanowski and you're the
greatest newsbreaker in the world and you have all this credibility,
I don't know why you would compromise that because I
because of a relationship. Somebody pointed this out on Twitter.
Each time that WOJ does one of those spots on
ESPN to break news and talk about news that he broke,
there's a book on the shelf right behind him. It's
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the only book he's ever written, is about Danny Hurley's dad.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's called The Miracle of Saint Anthony. I read it.
It's very good.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
So it almost to me proves that this was boj
was used as a vehicle to leverage Yukon for more
money the entire time or else you don't you don't
write that word, that phrase that he has been the
number one guy from the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Here's me. Let me offer up what I think. There's
there's some sort of hybrid between where you are and
that story. Okay, I think there's a probably a pretty
good chance. So Brett just is the agent for James Barrego,
he's also the agent for Bobby Hurley. Brett is I
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don't think I'm overstating it what I'd say he's probably
the biggest college basketball agent in the country, and he's
pretty good obviously in an NBA agent circles, and so
my guess is that probably came from Brett, and this
is a very likely thing that happened was they probably
asked about Bobby Hurley a long time ago, okay, and
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it was Bobby's got the Kentucky thing and he's staying
and he's got a new deal coming. So when Barrego
goes in and meets with the Lakers breast and they're like,
when we think of him more as an assistant coach,
doesn't really fit what we need. Brett just says, you know,
Danny's deal never got done, and here's where they were financially, right,
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there's probably somewhere in the in the forties. So they
turned their attention to Danny Hurley. It gets out and yeah,
they I mean, this is this obviously a relationship piece.
How he got the story getting it from the Hurleyes.
And then of course the there was a tweet Friday
(25:33):
or maybe it was late Thursday in the expectations were
of one hundred million dollar offer. That also is very
likely to be a plant from the Hurleyes. If you
want to get this thing done, that's the number. And
they we found out offered him seventy he ended up
he ended up signing for for fifty to remain with Yukon.
(25:54):
So I agree with you that he was quote unquote used.
That's part of the job, part of the business. I
think there's also the various distinct possibility that way back
when the job opened, there was we'd love to have
Daniel Hue, like, yeah, he just agreed to a new deal.
He turned down Kentucky and then they circled back. That's
what I think happened. But you're absolutely right. He was
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up until late last week he was not a candidate
and they were you know, I was told they were
calling around trying to find assistant coaches for JJ Redick
and when people were kind of passing on it. When
people were passing on it, then they decided to try
and find other candidates.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, in your theory kind of confirmed Shams's role in
this the entire time, because I know there's this cold
war between Shams and Wojan and it's real interesting to watch.
But Sham's I think has been correct the whole time.
I think they really wanted Hurley, I mean Reddick, and
then it played out I think the way you thought.
So Anyways, Christy Sides as the head coach of the
(26:59):
Indiana Fever. I would have never known that. I would
have never known that in West Caitlin Clark played on
the NL Fever. Christy Sides is a second year head coach.
I looked at her IMDb. I mean, I'm sorry her
Wikipedia last night and she's been an assistant on all levels,
and then she's spent the last two years as a
head coach of the Fever. I think this is her
(27:20):
last stop. This might be her last week. She said
this after the Fever were embarrassed last night by Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm going to start with, you can't at this level
coach effort.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I feel like we were just trying to as them
to keep playing hard play.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
You can't start there.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You can't play in this league. That's where you have
to coach.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
It's just too harm Now. I know you have a
take on the on the comment you can't coach effort,
but you combine this, which just kind of looks like
she's throwing her team under the Whenever you you basically
say it's not my fault, it's the team's fault, you're
throwing the team under the bus. But you combine that
with just twenty four hours earlier, her betraying her star
(28:01):
player by giving the details of a private text message.
And I just think she's at the very least annoying,
at the most probably terminated soon.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well. I hadn't known this until you mentioned her name
when we were talking, so I looked it up. Do
you know she'd never been a head coach before, and
she's the head coaching And if you're no part of it,
is like, if you think the players weren't making a
lot of money, the coaches also haven't made a lot
of money. They haven't. Nikki Collins a dear friend of mine.
(28:38):
She was the head coach of the Atlanta team and
she left to go to Baylor, and it was like,
you know, I mean the increase in salary was crazy,
So I mean, you kind of do get what you
pay for. Here's the coaching thing. I've heard other coaches
say you can't coach effort. I think that's bullshit. The
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effort is the number one thing. You coach effort and
everything they do you can. You can mask it in
the word competitiveness, But you know, what do you tell
a kid in terms of what you want from I
want you to have great effort every day or I
want you to compete. I want you compete in the classroom,
want you compete in every drill. I want you to
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try and win every shooting drill, every box out drill,
every game. Wants to compete, that's coaching effort. Fuck, dude,
I played for Eddie Sutton. If you didn't bring effort,
just get out the fucking door. He did. He didn't
coach it, he demanded it. But I have. And this
is where I'll let her off the hook from the
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from where your perspective is. I have heard other coaches,
and I think Mike Mike Krzyzewski has said like, we
can't coach effort, Like actually, that's all you coach, and
even coach K knows that. But for whatever reason that's
been a popular narrative. Is that it anybody else annoying you?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Nope, Christy Sides Woj and woj Sham's cold war, and
then Lebron James always trying to be sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Oh, Lebron James trying to be sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Because we can.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Hey, last night, I don't know what Charles bronckwi. I
don't know what he likes about hockey, but he likes hockey.
I'm gonna choose to not hold it against him. I
don't know what he sees in hockey. I have a
bunch of hockey friends that are like, all you gotta
do is see it live and it'll change your life.
And I've seen it live and it didn't change my life.
I don't watch hockey, but Charles does. He was at
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the Stanley Cup finals game last night and they caught
him on in a live interview. I think he had
a couple of cocktails in him.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The oilers were your pick from the outset? What do
you think of them so far?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, they played grade in game one but they didn't win.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
But Votsky was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who's sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
He was freaking amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He is he is lit. He was lit. That's amazing.
Here's the thing about Charles when he's drunk, there's no
bigger smile in the world, right, And what do they
always say? Who you are when you're drunk is who
you are inside you? Why can we play it for you?
Because we can. That's it for In the bonus, check
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out the radio show every day three to five Eastern time,
two two Pacific, Fox Sports, trader of the iHeartRadio app,
I'm Doug Gotlib
All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in
the bonus with Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What it it's the Doug Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio.
What's good? How you doing? You do it? How you
doing so? My mom has an expression, your brom probably
has the same which goes, my mom didn't raise stupid kids,
(00:33):
and you can't be. You shouldn't be stupid either, right,
And I like to I do dumb things. I'm not
going to sit here and lie to you and act
like I've been perfect in my life or I haven't
made some silly mistakes or just some dumb mistakes. But
my mom did not raise stupid kids. And uh, one
thing you need to always have is leverage. Okay, leverage
(00:58):
and careful way to use it too much. Don't ever
leverage something that you're not willing to take. But there's
all different sorts of business aspects to the Danny Hurley
turning down the Lakers, and I'll get to the leverage
aspect of it, to the car sales aspect of it,
(01:21):
but I do want to start with this. I'm not
a sky as falling guy. The Lakers still have Lebron.
They still have Anthony Davis. There's still the Los Angeles Lakers,
this stuff, the Laker Girls, Laker Lighting. Next year, Crypto
will be completely theirs as a basketball which is good
and is bad, but it does have a ton of
(01:42):
recent Laker history in it, and they get LA Live
that goes with it. So I'm not sitting here telling
you the Lakers brand is dead or maybe not even
diminished as some have reported it. But I will tell
you that there's a scenario, Okay, there's a reasonable scenario
(02:03):
where the Clippers, who can't get out of their own way,
could own the city. The likelihood is small, but it
is increasing by the day. Keep in mind, the Clippers
have moved into Inglewood. Inglewood is the former home of
the Lakers. Inglewood is a city known as City of Champions.
(02:24):
And even though there is not the infrastructure in the
city the way there is in downtown la with LA
Live and with all the high rises. I mean, just
so you know, twenty five years ago where La Live
is now, where Staples is now, was skid row. It
was one of the worst places in the country to
be around. It does have some homeless but all those
(02:47):
high rises people have moved into downtown and it's a
legit spot to go out see a concert. That got
the Nokia Theater right next to it. So Fi is
in Inglewood, but also the YouTube Theater, which is within Sofi.
Like people don't know, this was a five thousand seat
indoor concert venue inside Sofi. And then right next door
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is into a dome where the Clippers are building what
they believe is the nicest said vi arena in the country.
So there's a world there where if the Lakers don't
fix this thing, and of course the Clippers would actually
have to win in the postseason. I don't think it
ever becomes a Clippers town, But man, does it flip
(03:30):
things really really quickly in terms of who runs a town.
Who doesn't. But but there's so much history, there's so
much tradition, and again they still have Anthony Davis and
Lebron James. It's gonna be hard to screw it up.
So did they screw it up? Did Danny Hurley actually
(03:54):
legitimately want the job? And was he originally their primary candidate?
I told you yesterday I didn't believe he was their
primary candidate. What I think happened is what and I
said this previously, is that they thought they were trying
to get a deal done with JJ. They started calling
around to assistant coaches and they got a very lukewarm
response in terms of who wanted to work with JJ.
(04:18):
And when they decided, you know, we're not really into that,
what else do you have? I would guess, again, this
is just guessing because I haven't spoken to Brett just
who's the agent for James Barrego but also the agent
for Danny Hurley. He's probably the most powerful basketball agent.
There's a couple guys there. But when I found out
(04:40):
he was the agent, I was like, huh, So when
you're talking to the Lakers, and the Lakers clearly didn't
love the idea of Barrego. You talked to Barrego's agent
and he's like, you know, well, I do have who
hasn't signed his deal as Danny Hurley, And they said,
is he interested? And he said, I don't know, I'll ask,
(05:00):
And so he asked, and he was interested. Was he
really interested or did he simply want to get a
big offer so it could increase the offer of Yukon
And oh yeah, by the way, also make Yukon look
better by turning down an NBA j own with the
Lakers in order to remain at Yukon. It does feel
(05:21):
somewhat likely, does feel so unlikely, and had he stayed
at Yukon, that marriage still would have fit and it
would have made sense, and you could have seen him
potentially go into the NBA, which you can you can now.
But it's a crazy thing that's happened. Where now the
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Lakers because they had turned so much attention to Danny
Hurley because the numbers got out, You're JJ Reddick and
you're sitting there going like, wait a second, now, I'm
not just a second choice, but you moved heaven and
Earth to get somebody else who wasn't in the conversation
when we were talking about the job. It feels like
(06:04):
they both kind of moved on, and the question becomes
did Danny Hurley really want the job to just do
it to get his deal done at Yukon. I think
the answer is a little bit of both. I truly do.
I think it's a little bit of both. And the
big element to it that's interesting is did Danny Hurley
want the job if it was one hundred million dollars?
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And do the Lakers try and come in. What's not cheap? Right?
Six years seventy million dollars is not cheap. But when
you saw that number being floated around, that was the ask,
and the fact that they wouldn't get to the ask
allowed him to walk out the door. And here's where
it's just like buying a car once you want, Once
the guy walks out the door, you probably nelse ever
sell that car. That's just a reality to it. So
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do I think Danny used his leverage? Hell yeah, why
wouldn't he do? I think he wanted the job. He
probably did if it was fuck you money, and one
hundred million dollars is fuck you money. It's twice what
Yukon was willing to go to. Twice is okay that
I'll do it for, you know that I'll do it for.
And the Lakers refuse. And so now the Lakers they
(07:12):
look worse off than they probably are. You know, to
think about the list of people who are potential candidate.
Jay Wright's not leaving what he's doing, you know, He's
just not He doesn't want to do it anymore. He
likes doing television, he likes doing corporate speaking, he likes
not having the pressure. He likes having a life. So
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everybody else has some sort of notable flaw, and none
of them are worth more than seventy million dollars, and
many of them aren't worth seventy million dollars. But once
you extended yourself to that level, that's what the going
rate is going to be if you want to find
the next Laker coach. So, yeah, they're little screwed, so
it works. My mom didn't raise stupid children. That's what
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my mom always said. So if you're Rob Polinka and
you're going to go all in and it's going to
become as public as it was with Danny Hurley, you
got to get the guy, and you got to be
willing to overpay. And once you saw that number in
one hundred million dollars, you can't have the meeting unless
you're willing to go there.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
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Speaker 2 (08:23):
App Let's Let's get to the Fox Says and now
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Fox Sports One, we call it what does the Fox Say?
Here's Joy Taylor talking about Kaitlin Clark's omission from the
Olympic team.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
No, I don't think it was disrespectful to leave Caitlin
Clark off the Olympic rosser. She is not one of
the twelve best professional basketball players in the United States
of America right now. The goal of the US women's
basketball team is to win a gold medal.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Is to win.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That is their goal. That is the goal of the
people that put this team together. That is the goal
of the team heading to Paris, and that should be
their only goal. Ratings is somebody else's problem, and that
is not the priority, nor should it be even considered
when you're talking about putting together a roster that is
going to compete at the highest level at the biggest
(09:21):
stage in the world, which is the Olympics. Remember how
salty we got when the men weren't winning the goal.
That was a problem. We're not getting involved in this.
This is the best team in the world. It is
a very hard team to make. They take a lot
of considerations for who makes this team. Not just who
the best players are, but how they're going to play together,
because they aren't just assembling an all star group, They're
putting together a team of players that have to play together.
(09:44):
Caitlin is going to have an incredible career. She will
have an opportunity to go to the Olympics, she will
have an opportunity to develop as a player.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think she is.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Going to be one of the greatest players that the
game has ever seen. I've enjoyed watching her start in
the WNBA. But all of those factors, the ratings, the
popular already people paying attention to it, growing the game.
That's not the responsibility of the US women's national team.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Joy makes a lot of good points she misses on
a lot of other ones. The first thing is she says, well,
she compares it to the men. The first thing is
the women have never really been challenged, right and by
the way, I'd even know because I had to look
it up, because nobody gives a shit until Caitlin Clark.
But we'll get to that point in the second. First
of all, they've never really been challenged. But the point
(10:28):
that she made about the goal is to build the
best team. I agree the best team does not always
have the twelve best players. It doesn't, doesn't. You have
to have probably two, if not three players on your
roster who are gonna be okay, not playing very much.
(10:49):
That's the reality in the game. Is that matter? That's
the reality. Actually, if you'd like, let's do a little
homework assignment. Okay, this is a real quick one. The
year is two thousand and Uh, the year is two
thand and twenty one. Remember the COVID Olympics were pushed
back a year. So the twelve players that were selected included, Okay,
(11:14):
Kevin Love, right, Kevin Love, Keldon Johnson, Bam out of Bio,
and Chris Middleton. Now, some of it was because, like
Lebron James didn't play a right some of who's because
(11:35):
Lebron James didn't play. Uh, Drew Holiday was on that team.
No one considered Drew Holiday, Kevin Love, Kelden Johnson, Bam
out of Bayo, one of the twelve best players in
the world and definitely twelve best Americans playing in the NBA.
Did they know. Here's the thing, Okay, I is this
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not out of a lack of respect for Joy, but
she's directly contradicted herself. If the goal is to build
the best team, then you build the best team. Secondly,
bullshit in it. It's not to It's not about fucking ratings.
Nobody cares about women's basketball. Nobody ever cared. The reason
that every ratings record has been changed is because of
one fucking person. And is she the twelfth best or
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the twenty fifth best? I don't fucking care. Can she
be the twelfth person on the roster? Of course she can? Like,
what are we doing when you have to come up
with the logical solusion as to what they haven't been challenged.
They're not gonna lose. The last three spots on the
roster don't really matter as long as she's not gonna
be a pain the fucking ass about playing time. She's great.
(12:41):
Let her play. The problem is they don't want to
cut one of these other women. Why is Diana Tarassi
still on the roster? Explain that one to me? Is
she one of the twelve best persons historically? She's an
all time great? But you have her on the roster? Why?
Because she's Dinah Tiraze. This same reason that Diane Ttrassi
was on the team when she was a rookie, Like wait, what, Yeah,
(13:06):
she was on her team as a rookie. Now she's
one of the greatest women's basketball players ever, one of
the greatest college basketball players ever. But she can't tell
me she was one of the best twelve best Americans
on earth when she was on the Now I don't
know because I didn't watch. You know why, because nobody
fucking watched. There is zero difference in the likelihood of
them winning a gold medal if she's honor off the team.
(13:26):
If you put together the best team, it does not
always have the twelve best players. And it's a sport
that no one's given a shit about until this very moment.
And she's the reason I didn't see you starter her
and player thirty five minutes? Did you? Did you? Did
anybody know but this, like oh my god, we have
have the to best players or else like no, you didn't.
People are on for political reasons and oh yeah, by
the way, like let's not act like she's not a
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winning player. Coming going back to the college years, even
if you go to the dream team, like Larry Bird
was a shell of himself, He wasn't the best player.
Why did they include Isaiah Thomas because Isaiah Thomas is
an asshole. Everybody fucking hated Isaiah Thomas. Don't believe me,
Google search for a second. Okay. He made it out
that Magic Johnson, his best friend, was gay. He said
(14:09):
Larry Bird was only viewed as one of the all
time greats because he was whitey. He didn't pass. He
froze out Michael Jordan in the All Star Game. Michael
hated him, Larry hated him, Magic hated him. That the
three most powerful players in the history of USA basketball,
and they all said, fuck you. I don't want you
want me to go travel for a month, leave my
family and play these bullshit games. All right, Fine, I
(14:31):
don't want Isaiah Thomas with me. So they took Christian Layner.
So this idea that, oh, you have to deliy, you
have to have the twelve best players I'm making This
is the national commentary that people are like, shut the
fuck up. Reality is. Of course, politics play a part.
You're trying to grow the game. She's an unbelievable and yes,
she's gonna have a great career. And you know what,
you're gonna miss this window. You're gonna fuck it up,
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which is what they're doing. They're all fucking this thing up.
It's a gold mine. Everybody wins. Everybody wins. And now
what you've done is you've made out. There's going to
be a portion of people that believe the reason she's
not on the team is the other women are jealous,
and that may be a portion of it. The other
woman of jealous. What's that gonna do. It's gonna turn
(15:14):
this entire movement of basketball fans against this team, Like, man,
fuck them. They don't even know what they got when
they got it. Here's Dan Patrick talk about Dan Hurley
turned down the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Did you pay enough? Could you have paid him more?
Dan Hurley wanted security, he wanted money, but I think
in the end he was going to get both at Connecticut.
Now it's not going to be on the level of
what he was going to have with the Lakers. But
with the Lakers going into a tricky situation, Lebron ad
maybe you have to bring in Brownie and you have
(15:47):
to learn that job. You know, the NBA, you have
to learn. You have to adapt to that. The players,
the amount of money that they make, they can say
no to you. They don't want to play tonight. There's
load management. There's a lot going on now. There's a
lot going on in college basketball as well. But it
feels like, as I said earlier, Dan Hurley has cracked
the code a little bit here. Now you'd go after
(16:09):
a couple of big names. He gets transfers in there,
and he's also getting recruits that may not be five star.
You got some nil money to play with here. He
has a system in place. Now, how does this sound
Dan Hurley? We reached out, he can't join us today's
on the recruiting trail. If he goes into a recruits
home today and says the following, I'd rather coach you
(16:32):
than I would Lebron.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Of course. I mean that's the essence of recruiting, is
you turn anything into a positive. We talked about this
a lot early on the pod. I think there was
some leverage to it. I definitely think he can turn
it into the I'd rather be at Yukon than coaching
and the Lakers. That's how great Yukon is. The reality is,
if the Lakers would have offered him a hundred million dollars,
he'd be the Lakers head coach. Here's LeVar Arrington talk
(17:03):
about Mike Tomlin's extension with the Steelers.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
I'm happy to hear it. I know there's probably just
knowing how our culture is, you know, we always want
coaches gone, like the entire state, right, We're like that
in Philly, We're like that in Pittsburgh. For one reason
or another. We always find the negatives and things and
always want something different, want something new. You know, sometimes
(17:28):
the worst thing that you can do is be a
knowledgeable sports fan, because when you have the knowledge of
understanding sports and like simplicities of what go into some
of the aspects of it, you use those aspects to
create narratives and judgments. And I feel like Mike Tomlin
(17:50):
has been victimized by that. Now I'm not saying he's
a victim. I'm just saying the way that he's been
talked about in the media, you know, in Pittsburgh locally,
the way he's been talked about by fans some fans locally,
And I never understood it, you know, I just never
understood why that's the approach. Why there's so much you know,
(18:12):
kind of like intensity towards when Mike Tomlin isn't as
successful as the fans would like.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Look I think Mike Tomlin made some really bad decisions
in the offensive side of the football. Some are his
some are his old general managers, some of his current
general managers. But the ability to stay at or above
five hundred for the life of his career is remarkable.
Is that the standard for the Pittsburgh Steelers. No, but
(18:46):
without finding the next Ben Roethlisberger, it's actually pretty damn impressive.
The issue with the Steelers is that if you broom Tomlin,
you have to have the next guy ready to go.
You have to have the right guy ready to go.
And I don't think that they're there. I don't think
they know who that replacement is. So you stick with
the guy who brought you, knowing he's plenty good enough
(19:08):
if you can figure out the quarterback situation. That's what
the Fox said same.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
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Speaker 6 (19:35):
Hey, Doug Lebron James was recently featured in this segment,
and my point about Lebron is always this. He wants
to give the perception that he's sophisticated. Like it's not
just good enough to be a famous person that's wildly rich.
(19:57):
He needs to also be perceived sophisticated. Case in point,
he sends out this tweet last night. I'm guessing he
was paid by the movie company, but he says movie
is so damn good. He's referring to Bad Boys RD
or Die. Movie is so damn good. The cinematography is insane.
(20:18):
Will and Marty maher connection is undefeated, action packed, funny
as hell, and simply just a great watch. Now, my
guess is that last part action packed, funny as hell,
and simply a great watch is what he thinks about
the movie. That's like, that's a really good thing to
say from somebody who just enjoys going to movies. That's
(20:38):
a very simple way of putting it. It's to the
point I think he called up one of his filmmaking
buddies for this part. The cinematography is insane. I don't
nobody mentions the cinematography other than filmmakers and like movie critics.
I think he went to one of his filmmaking buddies
and said, you know, I've got this tweet, but it's
(20:59):
just isn't sophisticated enough. What's so like a buzz term
that I could use to show that I'm really smart?
And his buddies like could go with cinematography?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, going solid solid. Does his film studio own any
piece of that production?
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Maybe? Maybe? I don't know. It made one hundred and
four million dollars worldwide over the weekend. That's pretiod.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Noh.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I was thinking about going and seeing it. You know,
it's like it's a Will Smith movie. I do think
it's interesting that they released a Will Smith movie. It
didn't do the fourth of July.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Weird.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Oh, that reminds me of Stephen A. Smith did. He's
still I think he doubled down on his rent the
other day. He was like, I'm not gonna go watch
a Will Smith movie until he sits down with the
black community and explains why he slapped Chris Rock And meanwhile,
ABC and at ESPN are running bad boys. Rider Die
(21:57):
adds the entire finals. Oh man, that was good. Okay,
So what annoys me most about this Danny Hurley story
is the Woje' part the Adrian roj Narowski part of this.
So remember last Thursday, I want to say it was
(22:19):
the world was shocked when woj sent out a tweet
saying that the Lakers are circling Danny Hurley, and then
he made the mistake of saying he has been their
number one choice from the very beginning, and that just
truck everybody is odd because the Lakers can't keep a
secret worth a shit, and you're telling me they've gone
(22:40):
weeks of this and nobody heard anything about it, and
that was just strange. And then you hear Shaan's that
went on i think his stadium show today and said.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
This, he met with JJ Reddick, once, he met with
James Brigo a summertime solo, and then James Brigo came
into the facility, met with everyone, met with ownership, and
then the last week on Wednesday turned their attention. I'm
told to Dan Hurley and he was not the number
one candidate, the number one guy.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
To go pursue from the start, from the beginning.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
So if you're if you're Adrian Wojanowski and you're the
greatest newsbreaker in the world and you have all this credibility,
I don't know why you would compromise that because I
because of a relationship. Somebody pointed this out on Twitter.
Each time that WOJ does one of those spots on
ESPN to break news and talk about news that he broke,
there's a book on the shelf right behind him. It's
(23:34):
the only book he's ever written, is about Danny Hurley's dad.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
It's called The Miracle of Saint Anthony. I read it.
It's very good.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
So it almost to me proves that this was boj
was used as a vehicle to leverage Yukon for more
money the entire time or else you don't you don't
write that word, that phrase that he has been the
number one guy from the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Here's me. Let me offer up what I think. There's
there's some sort of hybrid between where you are and
that story. Okay, I think there's a probably a pretty
good chance. So Brett just is the agent for James Barrego,
he's also the agent for Bobby Hurley. Brett is I
(24:20):
don't think I'm overstating it what I'd say he's probably
the biggest college basketball agent in the country, and he's
pretty good obviously in an NBA agent circles, and so
my guess is that probably came from Brett, and this
is a very likely thing that happened was they probably
asked about Bobby Hurley a long time ago, okay, and
(24:45):
it was Bobby's got the Kentucky thing and he's staying
and he's got a new deal coming. So when Barrego
goes in and meets with the Lakers breast and they're like,
when we think of him more as an assistant coach,
doesn't really fit what we need. Brett just says, you know,
Danny's deal never got done, and here's where they were financially, right,
(25:13):
there's probably somewhere in the in the forties. So they
turned their attention to Danny Hurley. It gets out and yeah,
they I mean, this is this obviously a relationship piece.
How he got the story getting it from the Hurleyes.
And then of course the there was a tweet Friday
(25:33):
or maybe it was late Thursday in the expectations were
of one hundred million dollar offer. That also is very
likely to be a plant from the Hurleyes. If you
want to get this thing done, that's the number. And
they we found out offered him seventy he ended up
he ended up signing for for fifty to remain with Yukon.
(25:54):
So I agree with you that he was quote unquote used.
That's part of the job, part of the business. I
think there's also the various distinct possibility that way back
when the job opened, there was we'd love to have
Daniel Hue, like, yeah, he just agreed to a new deal.
He turned down Kentucky and then they circled back. That's
what I think happened. But you're absolutely right. He was
(26:17):
up until late last week he was not a candidate
and they were you know, I was told they were
calling around trying to find assistant coaches for JJ Redick
and when people were kind of passing on it. When
people were passing on it, then they decided to try
and find other candidates.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Yeah, in your theory kind of confirmed Shams's role in
this the entire time, because I know there's this cold
war between Shams and Wojan and it's real interesting to watch.
But Sham's I think has been correct the whole time.
I think they really wanted Hurley, I mean Reddick, and
then it played out I think the way you thought.
So Anyways, Christy Sides as the head coach of the
(26:59):
Indiana Fever. I would have never known that. I would
have never known that in West Caitlin Clark played on
the NL Fever. Christy Sides is a second year head coach.
I looked at her IMDb. I mean, I'm sorry her
Wikipedia last night and she's been an assistant on all levels,
and then she's spent the last two years as a
head coach of the Fever. I think this is her
(27:20):
last stop. This might be her last week. She said
this after the Fever were embarrassed last night by Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm going to start with, you can't at this level
coach effort.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I feel like we were just trying to as them
to keep playing hard play.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
You can't start there.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
You can't play in this league. That's where you have
to coach.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
It's just too harm Now. I know you have a
take on the on the comment you can't coach effort,
but you combine this, which just kind of looks like
she's throwing her team under the Whenever you you basically
say it's not my fault, it's the team's fault, you're
throwing the team under the bus. But you combine that
with just twenty four hours earlier, her betraying her star
(28:01):
player by giving the details of a private text message.
And I just think she's at the very least annoying,
at the most probably terminated soon.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well. I hadn't known this until you mentioned her name
when we were talking, so I looked it up. Do
you know she'd never been a head coach before, and
she's the head coaching And if you're no part of it,
is like, if you think the players weren't making a
lot of money, the coaches also haven't made a lot
of money. They haven't. Nikki Collins a dear friend of mine.
(28:38):
She was the head coach of the Atlanta team and
she left to go to Baylor, and it was like,
you know, I mean the increase in salary was crazy,
So I mean, you kind of do get what you
pay for. Here's the coaching thing. I've heard other coaches
say you can't coach effort. I think that's bullshit. The
(29:00):
effort is the number one thing. You coach effort and
everything they do you can. You can mask it in
the word competitiveness, But you know, what do you tell
a kid in terms of what you want from I
want you to have great effort every day or I
want you to compete. I want you compete in the classroom,
want you compete in every drill. I want you to
(29:21):
try and win every shooting drill, every box out drill,
every game. Wants to compete, that's coaching effort. Fuck, dude,
I played for Eddie Sutton. If you didn't bring effort,
just get out the fucking door. He did. He didn't
coach it, he demanded it. But I have. And this
is where I'll let her off the hook from the
(29:42):
from where your perspective is. I have heard other coaches,
and I think Mike Mike Krzyzewski has said like, we
can't coach effort, Like actually, that's all you coach, and
even coach K knows that. But for whatever reason that's
been a popular narrative. Is that it anybody else annoying you?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Nope, Christy Sides Woj and woj Sham's cold war, and
then Lebron James always trying to be sophisticated.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Oh, Lebron James trying to be sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
And why are we doing this?
Speaker 6 (30:17):
I do.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Because we can.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Hey, last night, I don't know what Charles bronckwi. I
don't know what he likes about hockey, but he likes hockey.
I'm gonna choose to not hold it against him. I
don't know what he sees in hockey. I have a
bunch of hockey friends that are like, all you gotta
do is see it live and it'll change your life.
And I've seen it live and it didn't change my life.
I don't watch hockey, but Charles does. He was at
(30:45):
the Stanley Cup finals game last night and they caught
him on in a live interview. I think he had
a couple of cocktails in him.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The oilers were your pick from the outset? What do
you think of them so far?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Well, they played grade in game one but they didn't win.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
But Votsky was.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Who's sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
He was freaking amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He is he is lit. He was lit. That's amazing.
Here's the thing about Charles when he's drunk, there's no
bigger smile in the world, right, And what do they
always say? Who you are when you're drunk is who
you are inside you? Why can we play it for you?
Because we can. That's it for In the bonus, check
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