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On a Monday edition of The Best of The Doug Gottlieb Show:  Doug talks about what happened in the final round of the US Open on Sunday as Rory McIlroy collapsed on the back nine and allowed Brysan DeChambeau to win the major.

Doug and the crew share what they loved and hated from the sports weekend. 

Doug gives his take on what happened in game four of the NBA Finals. Doug welcomes NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the NBA Finals, the Lakers, and all of the other major headlines around basketball.

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more than a That's more than Rory McElroy would get today.

(00:47):
The collapse at the end of the US Open was
epic and Bryson Deshamba ends up getting the win, and
you know, it leads to the question of did Rory
lose it or did Bryce did win it? And I
would say yes, yes, but what an absolute disaster down

(01:08):
the stretch. And look, it's fair to say those Greens
were ridiculously difficult to pun out. But whatever their level
of difficulty, it's made worse when you get tight and
you're under pressure, and it's really he pulled the opposite
of a Tiger Woods. You know, Tiger used to get
a lead and then on Sunday, you know he would

(01:29):
just shoot for even and then people are trying to
make up shots, make up strokes, and they choked behind
him for that one. What a week for Roy McElroy
where it's announced right before you know, he teas off
on Thursday that he's reconciled his marriage and then he's
on this dream run and then he's likely to win
a US Open, and then he's not, and Bryson to

(01:51):
Shambeau ends up coming from behind to get the win.
That's that's a crazy week. And then of course afterwards
he speeds off in his car and doesn't want to
talk to any reporters, which we can get to a
little bit later on the show. But I find it
to be fascinating that, you know, I'm one of those

(02:11):
guys and I've I've told you before there's three types
of people in this world. The ones that look that
don't want to ever see a limb breaking, you know,
a bone breaking or anything. Uh, there's there's some that
don't want to see it, and then there's some that like,
we'll see it just once, and then there's others that

(02:31):
want to see it over and over and over again.
I'm usually that type three. You would think that when
it when it comes to collapsing, when it comes to
collapsing down to stretch, I mean, it's a lot like
a car wreck. Some people don't want to see it.
Some people want to see it once, some people want
to watch it over and over and over again. That
one I'm a little squeamish about. Like I'm more squeamish

(02:54):
about watching somebody completely gag away up a historic major win.
Then I am watching somebody's leg break in half when
they're playing soccer, Like that just feels uncomfortable. And yeah,
if you don't like Rory, but I don't know, if
there's this anti Rory sort of sentiment, it could be wrong.

(03:15):
And Rory's the guy who remember he said so many
glowing things about the PGA tour and crushed the idea
of going to live, so he would have been everybody
wants to celebrate, and yet he couldn't close and one
leg and a day like Sunday that finishes that way,
you feel like you don't ever get back. And I

(03:37):
know I've said it before and then been proven wrong
that eventually athletes do get over the hump. But man
an individual sport like golf, when you have only yourself
and your clubs and maybe your lie to blame that
it doesn't usually work out well. I feel legitimate empathy
for Roy McElroy today, legit because watching that collapse was

(04:00):
painful to watch painful, and then you're trying to convince yourself, no,
you can still get it together. He's still get it. No,
you can't. That train came off the rails and it
hit every part of the cars, the train cars that
are next to it, every part Dan Byra, Did you

(04:20):
do you enjoy watching that? I mean, I know you
love the sport of golf. I know it, and I
know from going to us opens with you how intrigued
you are. I know how much you know about that course.
Was that enjoyable to watch him collapse down the stretch?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
I he did collapse. He folded. I think is the
word that I would use. I think it's a little
less harsh, but I still agree with your sentiment of
the shots that you need to make. But I was
enthralled with the whole afternoon, to be honest, because I

(04:56):
actually felt that the week was really good, and then
to have it build up the way that it did
and to have it come down to Bryson and Rory
and there were other players, you know, Patrick Cantley was there,
but it really was kind of this two horse race
that you just watched unfold for the final, you know,
two or three hours of it. I thought it was
I thought it was magnificent. And for Rory to have

(05:18):
a two shot lead when he did and to not
be able to capitalize and to miss the putts that
he missed on sixteen and eighteen, yeah, I mean it
was tough. But I enjoyed the entire afternoon of golf.
I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean, it was a great afternoon golf. But man,
that's hard to watch, that's right, especially because you know,
anyone who's gone through marital strife, whether you've been divorced,
whether you reconciled, you know, been divorced and been remarried,
you know, whatever, you just when that becomes public it's
more than a little uncomfortable, right, and then you know

(05:56):
it's and all of a sudden he reconciles. You're like, wow,
Like what an amazing week. You reconcile with your wife,
and now you're you're back playing great golf and you're
you're gonna win the US Open. And then again, it's
one thing to not win the US Open. Happens to
all the other competitors. It's another thing to to collapse,
to fold, fold up shop. However you want to deem it.

(06:21):
That was Oh god, I just can't now. I will
tell you that I think the speeding away and he
didn't like speed away, wasn't like you anybody was in danger.
But he definitely didn't stop. Uh, he didn't stop to
answer questions.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, and didn't help.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah. I just it's a terrible look. But it also
speaks to what we've how we've changed how we viewed
the media. Right, how have you the media? I do
think you have to do that. I do you know,

(07:02):
take us through what happened. We're not the reason that
you lost, We're not the reason that you pulled it
up shop. You are, And I think it's honestly very
human to kind of just be defeated and deflated, like
I get it, but just the speeding off thing is

(07:22):
such a bad look. There was.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
There was so much in terms of the two players
and who they are, because if you go back three
years ago, there maybe wasn't a more disliked person on
tour than Bryson to Shamba, who would be heckled by fans.
And then you have the obviously the obvious live PGA
Tour rivalry. Whereas you mentioned, Rory was very outspoken, outspoken

(07:48):
at one point in favor of the PGA Tour. He
is backed off quite a bit from that and doesn't
nearly engage in that as much as he once did.
And then you have Bryson being the actual fan favorite
and you have Chance of USA. It was just it
was so different than maybe what you would have gotten

(08:08):
if it was two or three years ago. And to
see Rory do that, and to see then how Bryson
handled himself afterwards, and I don't know if he saw
in Golf Channel where you know Bryson not only joined
them on the desk but then went on the course
when Johnson Wagner was trying to replicate Bryson shot like
it was.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
It was.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, the Bryson de Shambeau meter is like at
twelve right now, Like there's just so much goodwill. And
then you compare it to Rory driving off after another
heartbreak he finished second last year, you know, so like
this is the second straight year where he's he's come
up short in a completely different fashion.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
By the way than he did a year ago.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
But he just couldn't catch Wyndom Clark because he had
sixteen pars on a scorecard. Bertie the first hole and
didn't birdie another hole the rest of the round last year,
and this was more of a more of a roller coaster.
Still shot sixty nine, you know in the final run
when you entered, you know, trailing by by three shots.
But it's tough tough to take when you're when you're down,

(09:07):
or when you're up two strokes playing the back nine
on Sunday and then to drive off like he did. Yeah,
it was not a good look.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No, not a good look in any sort of way.
So Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio as
we were reminiss and it's interesting like here Bryson de
Shambo ends up winning the US open, But I would
say I think Rory's collapse gets rightfully more of the attention,
more of the attention.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, you have to also look at how many more
times will this It's crazy to think of because of
how on top of his game Rory is. But if
now you know, Bryson's on top of his Scottie Scheffler's
been dominant through most of the season, Like these things
don't grow on trees. And so now the further you

(09:52):
go without winning in a decade, the more it's going
to build up with Rory and now you're gonna want
it the next time he's you know, he's in the
in the lead in the final round. How much do
those two footers and four footers from Pinehurst and during
into his mind again?

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And it's interesting too because he actually, you know, technically
had a better round uh than than Bryson. Right, he
shoots sixty nine, Bryson shoots seventy one. But it's it's
how it ended, right, you under you end, you know,
bogie bogie par bogie.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like, yeah, you missed it and that was the two footer.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, you know, you know, Bryson may have gotten a
bit lucky on his web shot, but he still had
to hit the shot. Even said last night, like four,
you know, four out of one hundred, he'd be able
to hit like that. He thought four or five. But yeah,
the the you know, Bryson missed a short putt on
the on the back nine as well at one point,

(10:47):
but he didn't miss two of them.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
No, no, and he finished par bogee par par par
and it's enough to win the tournament.

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you get into June, we're creeping closer to fourth of July.

(11:28):
NBA season still going, but winding down, winding down. NBA
Draft next week. I cannot believe how much we're talking
about the WNBA. That still blows my mind. If you
actually look at it, step outside of self. We'll get
to some of that. Mooky Bets is injured, that's I
may be a little point of contention or point that's

(11:50):
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the Bonus. But every Monday we kind of recap our weekend,

(12:11):
our sports viewing and sometimes non sports viewing weekend. We
do so by playing a little love and hate?

Speaker 4 (12:18):
What did you love?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
God? I love you?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
And what did you hate?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
These? Clarey is all right, little love and hate for
the weekend Here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. M Doom Doo, doom, Doom, Doom, doom doom.
So I will start kids, I'll start with something my love.

(12:47):
My son's favorite artist is Playboy CARTI Playboy CARDI quick
shout out to my man Josh Shaft who hooked us
up and I took him to uh Summer, I think
it's Summer Smash in Chicago. Now, there was I mean,
Kodak Black was terrible. There were some other acts that

(13:11):
were questionable. There's some good ones as well. And I'm
not like I like some Playboy Cardi songs. I'm not
gonna tell you. I can quote him chapter and verse
and and the way. The presentation is definitely dark, definitely different.
But man, twenty thousand people, mostly young people, cameras out

(13:31):
in Unison jumping around, smashing each other like it was.
It's kind of cool. And to the you know, the
day before Father's Day, to for my son for his
first concert to be at his favorite artist and for
it to be I mean, just an absolute zoo where
he turned to me, He's like, Dad, are all concerts
like this? I was like, No, I loved it. It

(13:52):
was an amazing experience. It was cool. Dan Byer, what'd
you love for the weekend?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I love the US Open And it's funny because we
have a promo playing here on Fox of Dan Patrick.
And while I completely appreciate Dan's opinion on it, I
actually liked that Rory McElroy and Bryson to Shamba weren't
playing in the same group because it added this other drama.
It was almost layered in the way of like, Okay,
could Rory take an opportunity, Well, you know Bryson's going

(14:19):
to have a chance to counter. So it was kind
of funny that I actually appreciated that Rory was in
the group ahead and was able to pull ahead, and
then you still knew Bryson had some chances. I get
the one on one stuff and can totally appreciate. I
think a lot of people probably felt like Dan did.
But I like the setup. I love the weekend of

(14:40):
the US Open. I loved the way that Pinehurst number
two was presented. You didn't have the carnage that you thought,
yet you still had enough trouble. Maybe they could have
tightened the screws a little bit tighter, but then when
you do that, it could get away from you. And
I just thought it was a great, great weekend. And
I don't love that the USGA is going to these

(15:01):
basically anchored sites is what they call them. So they'll
be back at Pinehurst in five years. They'll go to
Pebble a bunch. I love Oakmont. They'll go there quite
a bit, but it's great to see Pinehurst shine and
they'll be back there in five years in twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Ford that you like them spreading around.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I like it spread around because I think that there's
parts of the country that really deserve to see the championship,
specifically the Midwest. And when you have a lot of
Great West Coast sites where the weather is much more
controllable on a golf course, you're gonna have those sites.
And then there's so many sites up in the northeast, Shinnecock, Wingfoot.

(15:40):
Now you go to Pittsburgh and Oakmont. Like I mentioned,
I just don't think it gets spread around as much,
and I just think it's a great event. You really
can't go in the south, he king, like, go to
Texas for a US Open, way too hot. But I
like it when you can move it different places. They'll
go to Oakland Hills, you know, in a decade or
so outside of Detroit.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
But yeah, I kind of kind of bum that Southern
Hills isn't getting another shot. Yeah, yeah, of course it's
it's really hot. But but again, if you're gonna do
it in June, it's not you know, it's not crazy there.
It can be bad, but sure, I mean how different
is that? Like, you know, next year and they're at
Oakmont and Pennsylvania, you're gonna get real humidity there, very likely. Yeah,

(16:21):
So I'm with you. I love wing Foot. Uh, it
is really hard to get to Pebble obviously, is like
it wins all the visual awards and you know what
the weather's going to be. Yes, but it's it's weird.
It is weird that the Midwest. You know, if Pennsylvania
is and there's I think Oakland Hills is in like

(16:41):
thirty four, but nowhere in the South, nowhere in the
true Midwest until there.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So that's the only that's the thing that I don't
necessarily like about it. Plus they're going to a lot
of private or high end public courses and so you know,
there's no more, no more of the Beth Plage, Bethpage Black.
You're not gonna you're not gonna see that in a
US open anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
I have a question about Bryson, So you kept hearing
about this. He wasn't popular at some point and now
he is popular and all that stuff. How much of
his lack of popularity were his tightness with Trump back
in the day. Does that have something to do with it?

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I don't think so, because honestly, I think a lot
of those guys are tight with Trump. I think most
golfers are Republicans and top end golfers, so you'll see
a lot of big names play with Trump and obviously
Trump's connection to the game. It was just more of Bryson,
and I think his attitude very fiery. You know, he

(17:50):
tried to bulk up he was and he did balk up.
He was enormous, but he was just kind of like
the I don't want to just say that the outcast
of him, maybe trying to sound like the smartest guy
in the room. And I think that there's there's now
some some levity to him. He talked a lot about
his YouTube page and getting comfortable with that. He does
seem like a different, different guy, But previously I think

(18:13):
he was because he just tried to always sound like
he was super duper smart, and that's why Ko would
roll his eyes at him.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I was Sam sent me love from the weekend.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
My love from the weekend. The Indiana fever are starting
to gel. We all know about the disastrous zero to
five start then one in eight, but This team's actually
won four of their last six, and Sunday they got
their second win over the Chicago Sky. Kaylen Clark had
a nice game seven to eleven from the field, twenty
three points, eight rebounds, and nine assists. But even more

(18:47):
encouraging Kaylen Clark in her six ' five forward Eliah Boston.
They are approaching some Walter White Jesse Pinkman.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Chemistry, same my name. I love it.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
And the thing about it is the Fever can also
win when Caitlyn Clark is not even having a great game.
In their win over the Atlanta Dream last week, Clark
had just seven points, but Aliah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell
went off for twenty seven and twenty four respectively. They
got the win. Here's the kicker, guys. The Fever currently
hold the last playoff spot with a record of five

(19:21):
and ten because eight of the twelve WNBA teams go
to the playoffs. This team still can't beat the best,
but they're winning against the rest.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
That's my love of the weekend, all right.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Not surprising. That's, by the way, the least surprising love
of the weekend possible. I had written now what I
thought everybody's gonna love Buyer went with golf and you
went with the Indiana fever, which brings us to Jason Stewart,
would you love for the weekend?

Speaker 6 (19:46):
I liked after Game four when the Mavericks just got
done wipe in the flour with the Celtics and Jason
kidds said this about.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Him, it's real simple. We don't have to complicate this.
This isn't you know, Surge. Our group was ready to go.
They were ready to celebrate.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Our team was ready to play. Their team was ready
to celebrate. That's an amazing comment and went to those
of you thinking, man, why would you want to do that?
Why would you want to get you know, put what
do you call that bulletin board material for the Celtics.
I'll tell you why, because Jason Kidd knows exactly who
he's talking to. He's talking to the epitome of gen

(20:27):
z Soft with Jason Tatum and those folks. Very underreported
aspect of these NBA Finals was when kid I think
said in passing at some point that he thinks Jason
Tatum is a better player than than who am I
thinking of Guys Brown or the other way around, and
Tatum was like, he's just trying to get in between us,

(20:50):
like a real gen z soft response to it. He
knows that he can't beat this team in the matchup physically,
the MAVs can't beat the Celtics, but I think Kid
in that comment's like, maybe I could beat them mentally
Like him saying that in that moment was strategic. I
think it was impactful and if they win tonight, I

(21:11):
think you can credit him for getting in the heads
of the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
H Okay, let's get to what you hated from the weekend.
I hated what Charles Barkley said after a game for
the NBA Finals. Charles Barkley said he's going to retire

(21:36):
from broadcasting after twenty five years at the end of
next year. Now, look, I viewed Chuck as one of one.
He's the greatest studio analyst in the history studio personality, right, Like,
let's just be honest. He's a studio personality in the
history of the medium. He can get away with anything,
he can say anything, and he does and it's awesome

(21:56):
and it's entertaining, and he's been He's absolutely he's a
better person than he has a watch on TV. He's
a great person. I will point out that I think
I think that I'm not gonna say it was forced retirement,
but I definitely think there's some other weird stuff here

(22:17):
at play.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Remember there's talk of TNT losing the package. He called
out his bosses at TNT. That never goes well. That
just does not go well when you do that, And
it leads me to believe that there's a decent chance
that Turner isn't getting it and he doesn't want to
work for anybody else, or that he doesn't want to

(22:40):
work for He can't really leave if Turner has the
package and he doesn't want to work for Turner anymore
after the things he said about them, And maybe that's
how he feels. Remember they canceled like six weeks in
his CNN talk show, So I might be more to
it than just hey, I'm done, I want to retire.
But nonetheless, Charles Barkley not doing TV for the NBA

(23:02):
after next year. I just hate it.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
You guys believe him and you think this is it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yes, Yes, I think he's made a ton of money.
I think you'll still see him on a ton of ads.
I still think you'll see him. He'll pop into different
different things. But I think he's done.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I actually think that the media world changes so quickly
that if it's not in that form, that there will
be some other form that we will see him appearing
on in the short future, if that is, If that
is actually the.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Case, Yeah, something just doesn't ring final about that whole
thing to me.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
We'll see they can't you know, they can't do it forever.
You know, at some point you do have to, you know,
you have to move on. And he's just doing it
earlier than rather than later.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Would you hate Dan Byer?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
So two quick things.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Number one, you know, Jason was talking about the Jason
Kidd comments, and it made me think of when teams
are about to clinch a championship, like they have champagne
in the arena, they've got streamers. I hate it when
other teams use that as motivations, Like they thought there
was going to be a celebration tonight. They were planning

(24:22):
for it. Yeah duh, Like what were they supposed to do?
Go buy all the champagne with ten seconds left on
the clock, Like there's there's planning. If you are going
to win now, it may not happen. So if you
see any of that. If Dallas wins tonight and you're like, yeah,
we knew they were planning, We saw the we saw
the champagne in the hallways. Well yeah, well what were
they supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Right? Am? I correct? Like that's that that annoys me.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
The opposite end of that is when like ten seconds
after a team wins a championship, there's a TV ad
to buy T shirts and hats that say championship, and
you're always like, how did they print those so fast? Like, honestly,
it's the opposite of what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yes, but there was a great scene yesterday of Bryson
to Shambo signing a fan's hat as he was playing
the back nine. I believe it was between the tenth
and eleventh hole that got a lot of run as
the fan was confined to a wheelchair and just saying
like how great it was. If people were watching golf,
they also would have seen Rory McElroy addressed that same

(25:24):
fan ten to fifteen minutes earlier. But none of that
gets any pub of you know, in this back and
forth of Rory versus Bryson and Rory being the bad sport,
Rory didn't sign the fans hat, but I think he
gave him a golf ball, to be honest with you,
but you know, addressed and talked to the fan and

(25:45):
then went on his way. So I thought it was
awesome what Bryson did. I don't want that to take
anything away. But Rory also did it as well, but
nobody talked about that.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Dan Buyer great golfer, by the way, Jason Stewart, there's
a long laundry list of things that you hate, but
just from this weekend, pick one or two.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Let's see. So Yamamoto goes down on I think it
was Saturday or Friday night. He left the game earlier.
Now they've determined that the I think the picture that
makes the most money of any pitcher in baseball is
now on the shelf with a rotator cuff injury. They're
not saying this is a season ending thing, but I

(26:28):
don't know. Rotator cuffs and pictures, that's not a good mix.
And then yesterday I'm watching the game and Mookie goes down.
He takes like a ninety five hour pitch to the wrist,
fractures a bone. He says he's not having surgery, so
he's going to be back, But I don't know how
good you could be coming back from a fractured wrist.
And what you do for a living is swing a bat.

(26:50):
That's not great. I haven't really been happy with the
season to begin with. I think they have like the
six or seventh best record in baseball. They've been inconsistent
at best, so this is only going to make that
a little bit more difficult. So I hated that. That's
what I hate.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Kind of amazing, right, like everybody is on on task,
on par right, what we thought? We knew that that
Jason would complain about the Dodgers, right all right, Iowa,
sam My hate? Is there another Caitlin Clark take another
no or a Chicago Sky Take what'd you hate from
the weekend?

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Fresh pivot? Here might hate from the weekend? Teams up
three to zero getting blown out? Happened to the Celtics,
happened to the Florida Panthers. You know, the Mavericks, We
saw them wax the Celtics. The Edmonton Oilers big stars
finally showed up. But honestly, for what to give the
home fans? That to give the home fans of the

(27:45):
team down O three a little taste of success in
what is overall a miserable series. It's a little too little,
too late here, guys, and we know the outcome, we
didn't why didn't you show up in the previous three games?
Reality sets in just delaying the inevitable. So blowing out
a team might be fun in the moment, but honestly,

(28:06):
what do you really have to feel good about when
you're down three to.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
One in uh?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Your rather than lay down and and end the season.

Speaker 7 (28:14):
But there's something about weird about the optics of like
seeing a team just go off and totally unload when
it's the out. The the series outcome is pretty much
you know, etched in fate.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That is uh strange. That's a little game of eleven eight.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
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Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. How you doing,
how's your weekend? Eh? You get the the Is it
called a heat dome? Is that what it is? A
heat dome in the Northeast. So here's my thing, guys,
and you can appreciate this obviously. I'm now in the
northern part of Wisconsin, which is just spectacular, just spectacular.

(29:03):
We got little heat, little humidity. It is a beautiful,
beautiful summer day. Uh in Suran Oaks, California. Let's go
to weather on the Ones, Jason Stewart, what's the weather
like today? Perfect?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Right, Yeah, it's nice here. It's not ideal, but it's nice.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
What do you mean not ideal?

Speaker 6 (29:22):
Well, I mean I just I want I want seventy
five and sunny and you know, with a little bit
of a breeze.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
What is it there?

Speaker 6 (29:28):
It's a little muggy, a little too muggy for my taste.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Well, we got we had, we had a lot more
muggy than you do. And of course the East Coast
super muggy, nineties hundreds and humid just just kind of
grows My argument against like when people go New York's
the greatest city in the world, right, is that there's
I don't know, probably three weeks in the summer, maybe more,
and three weeks in the winter when it's uninhabitable. So

(29:54):
it doesn't mean that New York's not a great place
and doesn't have a lot to offer, But when your
city is uninhabitable for three, Like, it's not just that
it's hot and muggy. It's hot muggy combined with whatever
layers of urine or on the pavement. That that's what
New York smells like when it's hot and muggy. He's like,
did somebody just go right there? In right? Right? Anybody

(30:18):
who's been or listening to us in the city's like,
you know what, He's right? The kid is right, kid
is right. Speaking of hot and Muggy, it's spending hot
and Muggy in Boston all day. Tonight's Game five of
the NBA Finals. Rick Bucker will join us momentarily. I
don't know if you heard this. This was Jason Kidds

(30:39):
summing up what happened in Game four kind of nicely.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
It's real simple. We don't have to complicate this. This
isn't you know, surgery. Our group was ready to go,
They were ready to celebrate, and understand we made a stand.
We were desperate and we got to continue to keep
playing that way. Understand that they're trying to find the
close the door. The hardest thing in this league is
the close the door. When you have a group that
has nothing to lose.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Hardest thing to do is to close the door when
you have a group that what was it? The group
doesn't doesn't want to lose, No, no doubt. It is hard.
Those last three outs of the Yankee Stadium hard. We
saw the last three holes four holes at the US
Open Heart and of course the last game on the
road in NBA Finals, often times are difficult. Tim Hardaway
Junior making a bunch of threes. Granted it was a blowout.

(31:26):
Luca looked incredible. And look, here's the obvious. This is
a captain obvious statement. If there is some way in
which the Mavericks can win tonight, I mean, the pressure
gets squarely on the Boston Celtics, right they can you know,
they can play perzingis, they can dominate at home, they

(31:48):
can be the better team. I just there's a world
there where if the Mavericks can win tonight, and they're
fully capable. If the Mavericks can win tonight, even though
there's still two games left, you don't want to be
that first team to lose after being up three to
zero and no one's even forced to game seven. All right,

(32:10):
let's welcome in Rick Bucker from Foxsports one and foxsports
dot Com and let's start with the NBA Finals. Bukee,
you tell me what's the likelihood that Dallas extends the
series tonight.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
It's a tough one because I believe that Dallas discovered
something in going back to Game three when they made
that twenty to two run in the fourth quarter in
terms of how they have to play. I do believe
that they've made an adjustment as far as realizing that
without christophspersingus, Boston is relatively small and pounding the paint

(32:54):
and crashing the board.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
They should be.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Winning the board. Maybe not as definitively as they did
in Game four, but they certainly should be winning the
battle of the paint and the boards. But my hesitation
to say that they're going to push it to a
game six is because all of the role players, along

(33:17):
with Kyrie Irvings, were simply different players in Dallas both
games in Dallas than they were in Boston. And I
don't know that I can count on a Derek Lively
to be the same player that he was in Boston
that he was in Dallas. I don't know whether Kyrie
has gotten passed the Gremlins and the goblins that he's

(33:38):
that he clearly was still battling. He didn't play five
guys in Boston. He played eighteen thousand or whatever. The
attendance was, so not knowing if those guys are ready
to replicate what they did in Dallas, my inclination is
to say that Boston gets this done tonight.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
What do you make of ky These comments about the
Celtics being a.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
Cult Everything was Kyrie in terms of, look, they have
a they have a passionate, passionate fan base, one of
a unique fan base, and Kyrie is a different thinker

(34:23):
when it comes to basketball and life, and so it
doesn't it doesn't surprise me that those two don't exactly jive.
In fact, it was why I was somewhat surprised from
the very beginning that Boston was a place that when

(34:45):
he left Lake Cleveland, but that was a place that
he intended to go to. I just I always thought
that it was an odd fit.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, so helped me out when I I look at
the stories of JJ Bregg. Now he's interviewing with the
Lakers kin, where does where does that stand?

Speaker 8 (35:08):
You know, it's so funny because like I think about
what I've heard behind the scenes and how the reporting
has gone out, and the everybody was saying that Chams
was taking a victory lap because we're back to JJ
Reddick now, and multiple things can be true. There was
a point in this process where JJ they wanted to

(35:31):
see if they could make the JJ thing work, and
I think you and I have talked about this, and
then it was like, can we get the assistant coaches
the staff that is necessary for this to work? And
they couldn't, and they were what other options do we have?
And that the whole Dan Hurley thing came up, and
so they weren't They weren't zeroing in on Ja Ja.

(35:52):
I mean they were at one point, but when this
whole thing happened with Dan, it was because they we're
trying to find another option again, and so the Dan
Hurley thing doesn't happen, and now we're back to, well,
can we make the JJ Reddick thing work? And it's

(36:12):
still going to come down to who are they able
to add to his staff in order to make it
to make it work. And what I don't know is
whether they've made any more progress on that front, whether
they have found anybody that is willing to take the
job at the prices that they're offering in order to

(36:34):
make it work. So I fully believe that they're still
exploring the JJ Reddick thing. From what I've been told,
it's they like the way that he thinks out that
he's an out of the box thinker, and that's why
they're intrigued by him, and it's also why they're not
sure that it would work as being the head coach

(36:56):
of the Lakers is you can be creative and you
can look at things in a different way, but you
still have to have the rudiments of how the job
works and how you work within a culture. And they're
not looking to recreate their culture. They're not looking to
create a different culture. They're looking to find somebody that

(37:16):
they can plug in that will make what they have work.
And the attraction to JJ is he comes in with
ideas outside of that.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Fair enough, I would I would agree there's definitely ideas
outside of that. How they execute that would be fascinating.
Caitlin Clark with a flagrant foul on Angel Reese, and
there's lots of discussion about you. You're the father of
a hunt me sorry, Angel reached for a flagrant fowl
and Kaitlin Clark apologize. What do you think of the

(37:50):
emergence of the WNBA, which, look, it's obviously doing much better,
but you know, some of it is also our reaction
to social media and media maybe more so than the
actual numbers of who's paying attention. But the Kalin Clark
thing is a real deal. What do you think of
her versus Angel Reese?

Speaker 8 (38:11):
Uh, Well, the whole thing has been conflated into something
outside of basketball, and I feel like it's been conslated
by you know, people that were never paying attention to
the w n b A and it never really paid
attention to women's basketball because women's basketball has sort of
a physical side to it. It has I've always felt

(38:36):
like the officials and UH and the people running the
league don't quite know what to do with uh, where
to draw the lines for women when it comes to
physicality or it going going after referees. I'm still going
back to Stanford, the camera brink at Stanford, who's yelling

(39:02):
f you at a referee as she's walking off the
court because she's fouled out or she picked up a
fowl or whatever. And I'm like, that would never happen
instant and in men's collegiate basketball.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
I said, by the way, I said the exact same
thing at the time, exact same thing. It would never happen.
It's like, this is where I say, it's like a
caricature of what happens in the men's game, right, Like
the trash talk that happens in the men's game is
subtle and kind of under the surface, and you got
to read their lips and whatever. Whereas with them it's

(39:37):
so over the top, flamboyant. The criticism officials again is
real and happens, but it's more subtle or more whining
and complaining with the women is completely over the top,
and it's amazing. It's like they're copying. It's honestly, it's
a little bit like a Japanese game show, right where
the game shows are like our's, only so much more dramatic,

(39:59):
in over the top, a cartoonish. That's what it feels
like to me.

Speaker 8 (40:03):
Yeah, And so when I look at the actual basketball
and part of this, my daughter's a collegiate hooper. And
so I've been watching a lot of that, a lot
of women's basketball at both levels, collegiate and pro, for
probably the last eight nine years, ten years, maybe more
so than I had ever previously. And so what I

(40:26):
see with Caitlin and with with Angel, I just don't.
I don't see any of its being that extraordinary as
far as the actual basketball is concerned. I think you
just have you have two very disparate approaches to the

(40:46):
game and skill and skills and and and how they
utilize them, and that creates a natural sort of ruckus
or or or conflict. But everything else feels like it's
being conflated into something else. And is there like is
there a certain amount of jealousy from the league about

(41:09):
about Caitlin. I think it's more like everybody's making her
out to be something. And if I'm a pro and
she's coming into my league and I've been here for
however long, or I competed against her in in in college,
and everybody's making a big deal out of so and so, like,
does that put a target on her back?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (41:27):
I mean that's that's with anybody. That's with anybody who
gets the accolades and the and the attention that Caitlyn
is getting. And so especially when you have somebody who's
not physically imposing what's going to happen, they're they're they're
going to be physically tested. I mean, I've seen that
in every sport, uh, and particularly in basketball at every level,

(41:48):
UH since since I've been covering the show in the
game or playing it. And so I just the fact
that it's being banded into all of these cultural statements
and the reason Caitlin's being treated the way she is
is because of the color of her skin I wish

(42:10):
she's coming from or any of that. I just look,
there are degrees of truth in what people are saying,
but then they're just taking it and they're expanding it
from two percent to the entire story. And that's the
issue that I have with whether it's Angel and Caitlin.
I think they're just at the center of all this, right.

(42:31):
Angel's really just an emblem of the other side, and
people literally trying to make this a black and white argument,
and I just I've refuse to believe that.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
That's the case.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Awesome, awesome stuff. Look, man, I'd love having you join us.
I hope the NBA season doesn't end, but we know
the drama continues. By the way, I can't let you go.
Is Paul George gonna walk from the Clippers?

Speaker 8 (42:59):
He will he's certainly willing to which comes to shove.
Balmer has the money to pay him. What I don't
know is does he and he doesn't have a way
to replace that talent. So if he if he walks,
I mean I would I would think that Balmer's not

(43:22):
just going to let him walk. That if they did anything,
it would be a sign in trade so that they
get something back. And I think that that's a very
real possibility.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
M that's fascinating, fascinating. All right, Buke, we'll talk to
you man. Enjoy the game tonight. Thanks for joining us
on Fox Sports Radio. Yep, Doug Gotlieb Show here on
Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from the tiraq dot
com studios. You know, it's interesting he talked about how
people are making out to be racial, Like, did you
guys hear what Steven A. Smith said in regards to

(43:51):
JJ Reddick exocuse me Lebron doing JJ Reddick's podcast.

Speaker 6 (43:57):
Oh yeah, that was great that he's heard from other coaches,
namely black coaches, that have an issue with it.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, let me state this really really carefully. Okay, Stephen A.
Smith is a race bader. Okay, he is disgraceful saying
that on National TV disgraceful. So JJ Reddick and Lebron
James are clearly friends, they have a relationship, they have

(44:24):
mutual respect for one another. The only one who's making
it out to be a racial thing is Steven A. Smith,
which he's making the he is creating this. This is
honestly pure evil. That's what That's what bad people do.
So bad people.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Do you know?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Steve A. Smith had COVID really really bad, was in
the hospital. I texted him three or four times wishing
him well because I'm a good human being. I don't
believe I believe he has switched over whenever he thinks
has been done to him or to black people like
he's this is. This is just as bad as the
perception that President Trump stokes the white nationalists flame same thing.

(45:10):
There's no difference, there's no difference none making it out
to be somehow that like a racial thing. How could
you have a do a podcast with JJ Reddick because
they're friends and he respects him, right? Lebron James also

(45:34):
friends and respects Tyleru, who coached him to an NBA championship.
That one's okay because Tylu former NBA player is black.
JJ Redick form NBA player is white. How is that
any different? You're not allowed to be friends with the
white person like the race bating has to stop. It's
disgraceful and ESPN allowing him to do it because they're

(45:59):
scared that he may walk out the door. Goodbye, good riddance.
He's no different than the Glenn Beck's of the world.
He's no different than any of these other guys. None.
And what it does is you benefit financially from it. Great,
How is that any different than being a drug dealer
benefiting off the sorrow of others. That's what he's doing.

(46:24):
I am done with that. I'm done with the people
go in line with this because they're scared that Steven A.
Smith will cross them off some sort of list. You
want to know the truth, Hey, when they hired Max Kellerman,
there were two people up for that job, me and
Max Kellerman and Steven A. Smith didn't want to have
me on that set, probably because I would call this

(46:46):
bull that he's doing. We didn't have any negative relationship.
I had no negative feelings towards him none. But this
stuff gross and we're doing it with the Caitlin Clark thing.
Like again, the people who are making this out to

(47:07):
be some sort of racism deal are are one people.
They just haven't paid attention to women's basketball. I've put
it out multiple times, Kelsey Plumb, Sabria, Sabrina Yescu. Okay,
Sabrina has I believe the number one selling Nike shoe
she's white. Nobody said a word when she got a shoe.

(47:29):
So they're just joeous of the shine that she's getting.
And now they're making it. People are making it out
to be some sort of racist thing, which is a joke.
But again, this is his job. He is the foremost
known broadcaster at ESPN. Colin's the number one guy at Fox.
He's the number one guy at ESPN, and staking the

(47:49):
stoking the racial flame is disgraceful. It is race baiting,
and yet they let it happen time and again. It's
so gross, it's so disgraceful. Oh, I'm sorry, he's a journalist.
Where's your journalist's integrity there
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