June 20, 2024 • 45 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug opens the show reacting to the breaking news that JJ Redick will be the next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Doug welcomes LA Times NBA writer Dan Woike onto the show to talk about JJ Redick getting hired as the next Lakers' head coach.
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there's an expression that so many of us use, and
it becomes tiresome, it becomes overused, it really does. It
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goes like this, Chess not checkers, right, Chess not checkers,
And we all use it because it's smart and it's
the assumption that chess is a smarter game than checkers,
is right. Do you remember the last time you played
checkers or the last time you played chess? And by
the way, even suggesting that you played chess is like
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saying the word sofa instead of saying couch, which brings
to mind we were discussing before the show the Donald
Sutherland passed away today. Donald Sutherland, one of my favorite
roles with him in movies is six degrees of separation, Right,
you remember six degrees of separation. Will Smith essentially plays
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a con man and oops. If you not haven't seen it,
then you're like, wait. But the idea of six degrees
separation is there's you could put six degrees between any
two people and you find a connection anyway. One of
the other parts to it was the connection in the
word in how we associate words with your level of education, right,
don't say don't say beer, say bottle of beer. Don't
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say couch, say sofa. Right, elite people say sofas, they
don't say couch. That's why we say chess not checkers.
It's the illusion of sophistication. I think that's what's that
case here with Rich Paul. It's the illusion of sophistication.
It's the attempt to play chess not checkers, when really
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you can play chess and just be a bad chess player.
All right, stick with me now, because there's a couple
of different stories that come into one. I remember yesterday
we shared with you these quotes of Rich Paul saying,
like Bronny and Lebron not tied at the hip at all.
Lebron's not going to sign for the minimum. No one
ever said Lebron would sign for the minimum. It's beyond
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stupid to ever try and dumb down any sort of
package deal and think Lebron James would sign for anything
less than the max. But when you say that, you're like, well,
I signed for the minimum. No one said that, but
it was this, Hey, listen, Toronto could take him. Dallas
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Cooe Harrison, who used to run Nike, he used to
be Lebron's right hand man, would like you. He's like
an uncle to Bronni. Why would Dallas want Bronnie James? Like,
when I say Bronnie James can't play, I don't mean
he actually can't play basketball. I just mean he can't
play in the NBA this year, couldn't play in college
this year. And when I say can't play in college,
it means he could. You couldn't play him extended minutes
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and hope to actually win basketball games. And that's not
a complete knock on him. Most freshmen. You couldn't play.
He doesn't have a position. He's a good player, he's
a good human. He has a chance to maybe eventually,
maybe be an NBA end of the bench player. But
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right now, no, And if you the Dallas Mavericks and
you just reached the NBA Finals, you're not drafting a
guy who may be somewhere down the road, Oh my gosh,
could be an NBA player, unless you're gonna get lebron
champs with him. We're playing chess, not checkers. Let me
come the two stories. Here's a story from Vince Goodwill.
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James Morego could be a name to watch, league sources
told Yahoo Sports as well as ESPN analyst JJ Reddick.
And we're talking about the Detroit Pistons. Reddick is currently
the prime candidate for the Lakers job, so it isn't
known how much traction Detroit could actually gain. Reddick and
Langdon have a duke connection. They were in New Orleans
when Reddick signed there as a free agent before the
pandemic short in twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. Ooh, we
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got a connection. But why would JJ Reddick? Let's that
was the story. Okay, I believe that story is bunk bunk. Okay,
Here's what I think is at play. What I believe
is at play is that the story of yesterday and
this story is one and the same. It's that you
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got to create some sort of idea that JJ Reddick
needs to be had by the Lakers. Otherwise you're gonna
lose Lebron, just like if you don't draft Bronnie, you're
gonna lose Lebron. Oh, we got breaking news. Here's Moncey
blagyas MONSI.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Hey, Doug, you couldn't have been more on top of
the topic. But according to ESPN, Adrian war Janowski has
just tweeted, JJ Reddick has agreed on a four year
contract to become the next head coach of the Lakers.
Rob Polinka offered the job this morning. Reddick has already
started working on his staff to surround himself with experience.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
There you go, There you go, easy chest, not checkers.
All they're trying to do is get this deal finished.
How do you get the deal finished by getting a
little leverage? Hey, you know it could be up with
the Piston job. Piston. You know what could happen is
JJ Duke ties. He could work with Trajan Langdon Duke family.
Why would they hire him, Why would he take the
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Pistons job? No, No, that's that doesn't fit. That doesn't
fit JJ Reddick. And you can't go from wanting to
coach lebron James and taking a ready made team to
a complete rebuild with the Detroit Pistons when you're a
sitting analyst calling the NBA finals. JJ's not an idiot,
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not an idiot. So you look at that story and
it signified to me that they wanted to push to
get the deal done with JJ. Hey, you could lose
JJ here if you don't get this thing done. Detroit
could be interested in him because of Duke Ties. By
the way, JJ Reddick will tell you he has said
publicly he was miserable in New Orleans, miserable. So that
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snapshot of JJ being some connector with Trajan Langdon, I
don't buy that one either, just like I don't buy
the look Bronni on his own merits could be like, no,
he's not. I mean, you're not even this is You're
not a Picasso in terms of being a BS artist.
You're more of a paint by numbers Lebron does that
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want to leave LA isn't going to leave the Lakers,
but wants to control who's his head coach, and that
Bronni ends up being there. I don't believe for one
second that Lebron is off of the idea of playing
with Bronnie. That's dumb. That's not believable. It's not believable.
If Bronnie James is drafted somehow by another franchise, there
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is less than five percent chance he gets a call
up in your one, Why would Lebron James when he
can have him with the Lakers and have him with
the South Bay Lakers and get him a call up,
why would he do that? Like, he's not staying around
the NBA for his health. He wants to compete for
a championship, but he also wants to play with his son.
He stated that as his goal this is do not
fall for really, really, really bad leverage plays. You know,
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I got a guy in their line that wants to
buy this car. But if you want to pay over sticker,
it's yours right now. Like, why would I pay oversticker? Well,
there's a limited number of these cars. Okay, My guess
is you can go find another one, and if you can't,
that's gonna be tough. I just again, I think this
is a guy who plays checkers and he's trying to
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play chess. And just because you play chess does not
mean that you're sophisticated. Just because you say the words
so far and bottle of beer does not mean I
have to fall for the idea that you know what
you're doing here. I've seen it with bad leverage plays
for Lebron in the past. Right when he was getting
ready to go to the Lakers, they leaked out, Hey,
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he could go to the Spurs. We do know that
the San Antonio Spurs, Hey, their mantra is get over yourself.
Lebron James is a lot of things, Okay, good human being,
great basketball player, good solid teammate, one of the greats
of all times. Over himself is not one of those things.
I don't believe for one second that Lebron is going
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to go to Dallas, is going to go to New Orleans,
and neither does anybody else. I also don't believe those
teams have any interest in drafting him unless they could
get Lebron James. Why would they? Why would they?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So? What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What I think about JJ Redick?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, JJ Reddick going from the broadcast booth to UH,
from podcast to head coach. And there was that little
thing in between about Danny Hurley being considered more than
JJ Reddick. No hurt feelings there, no awkwardness. Was this
going to be JJ rehck the entire time? Was the
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Dan Hurley thing a huge ruse? All these questions need answers.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I believe that JJ was the prime candidate. I believe
they struggled to fill out of staff and that that
the the Danny Hurley thing was somebody coming in going like,
how do we who else is out there? Like you know,
Danny Hurley hasn't signed his contract. Really let's bring him
in and they want to move heaven and Earth? I
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think a big question how many years and how much
money they gave to JJ? But yeah, this was probably there.
This was their plan sort of all along, and the
Danny Hurley thing was more of a did you know
that he was available? And I can tell you that
that happens like in my job and what I do
in terms of signing players is that you have guys
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and then somebody calls you or sends you a video
and says what do you think? And you end up
going like, hey, I don't know what do I What
do I think here? Huh? And then you kick it
around and then you circle back to the guys that
you were honed in on to begin with, honed it
on to begin with. So that's my genuine belief. Will
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it work? I got no idea. Let's see what they
do with the roster. But I don't think there's any
way in which JJ Reddick is a head coach unless
Lebron James. Okay, tod, Lebron James isn't going anywhere. You
don't hire JJ Reddick, who does podcasts with Lebron James,
unless you've gotten a guarante he that Lebron James wants
JJ Reddick to be his head coach and they're going
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to pitch it to you as in so would I.
As Steve Kirk came right out of the broadcast booth,
had never coached a day in his life, and pat
Riley had sort of been an assistant. But pat Riley
basically came from the broadcast booth and became arguably, or
maybe you know, arguably the greatest coach in Lakers history,
he and Phil Jackson. So I don't think he was
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ever in play in Detroit. I just think that was
some sort of bluff, probably coming from Lebron's camp in
order to make sure the deal got made, just like
Rich Paul with the sort of bluff. Hey, listen, Nicol
Harrison loves loves Bronnie James great, doesn't mean he wants
him on his roster.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show
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Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dan Wicky's going to
join us and a bit he covers the NBA for
the La Times as the news of the day is
the LA Lakers have hired JJ Reddick, and I don't think. Look,
the hire is unique as we've seen, you know, Kevin McHale,
Vinnie del Negro, Mark Jackson, Jason Kids, Steve Kerr, Derek Fisher,
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Steve Nash. I'll be hired without being coaches previously. That
of course myself in college as well. Fred Hoiberg's been
hired in college without having previously been a coach. Chris Mullen.
Heiberg great success, Chris Mullen not great success. So there's
been a variance of it, but really really interesting that
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the Lakers process which seemed to be honing in on
JJ Reddick and then all of a sudden it was
Danny Hurley. Now it's back to JJ Redick. Tug Gotlib
show Fox Sports trader Dan Wike joins us he covers
the NBA for the La Times. Dan that the process
was weird, at least publicly, And look, I'm sure we'll
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know more and more in the coming days, weeks, maybe
even months, but what do you know about what really
happened that led JJ Reddick to be a leading candidate
then suddenly Dan Hurley now was apparently being the head
coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So this is I would say some level of like
informed speculation, Doug, right, like, because I've been working this story.
You know, I was in Chicago at the combine and
everything I heard from people was JJ Redick. You know,
that was the name. When I would stop and get
stopped by bribal gms, I know, by different people around
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the NBA who would say, you know, like who's going
to be the coach? Or you know, it's good, why
are they going to hire JJ Redick? They're going to
hire JJ Reddick, you know, and it really really picked
up a lot of steam, right. I can't also say that,
you know, internally the conversations I was having, you know,
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like this was a pretty close search, right. It was
Rob Polinka and Genbus we're basically, like, you know, the
only two people who really knew what was going on.
And you know, as I was doing my reporting, I
was hearing things like, you know, the messaging internally being
like this is more open than you realize. This is
an open process. You know, don't believe what you're hearing. Necessarily,
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it's a lot of noise. Now. It was never like
openly refuted as to like, you know, we've got this
grand plan with Dan Hurley. So I was always being
kind of fed parallel pieces of information throughout the search
and tried to put that as much in my reporting. Yes,
JJ Redick, people everywhere on the leaf when JJ Rerick
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was the front runner, no one you know, potentially outside
of Adrian Rosnerowski knew about Dan Hurley until we all
knew about Dan Hurley. That was kind of very quiet,
and I think it was a scenario where maybe both
things were true. I mean, definitely people believed I can
tell you for sure people thought but this process began
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and would end with Jji Reddick. You know, six weeks
ago there was a huge Kurk ball in the middle
of it, and so I guess like everybody was simultaneously
right and wrong. Doug, how that's one played out? It
is really bizarre.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It is really bizarre. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
coming to you from the tyraq dot com studios. Okay,
is the staff set by your estimation?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
No? Not not fully said. I mean I think I
can speak to some of the names that I've heard,
you know, and reported throughout the process. I mean, I
think they want experience on the bench. Scott Brooks, Southern
California native, Doug that you know well is a name
that has come up a lot in this process. We
hurder John Rondo's name, you know, as a guy that
I think people view as being, you know, really smart
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and and potential as a coach, certainly you know, played
with Lebron James and Anthony Davis as well. And then
and then I think you add in the other factor
in this. You know, this is a guy like Kara Dudley.
But look, Kara Dudley has a job. He has a
good job. Sam can sell as a player they like.
He's got a job, I'm sorry, a coach that they
like and it is about probably to get promoted. Filling
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out of staff is hard, but but I think experience
and lockerroom relatability will be the keys. Do you know
this this process, like you know, figuring out who's going
to be with you and who's going to do what?
It is so critical. It's critical for everybody. It's especially
critical for a first time as coach.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No question about it. You got to have people that
know what you don't what what you don't know, and
empower them to do their job. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dan Wiki is
our guest. The kids in the background smack them around
me on the Doug Got Joe.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Doug, Doug, I tell producer Jason this literally potty training
this week. By the way, it's great, great planning on
our U and I say that my son dropped some
real big newsfore us.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The nice nice can I can I share you with
you a potty training story? I have them so when
I when I was at ESPN, my my house when
my son was potty training, had a basement and then
had a playroom upstairs, so there's like three different levels
and so they get to the point to where they
can go in the toilet. But the wiping part is
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you don't want a two or two year old or
three year old piping right right, So they're not really
self sufficient. So you get the debt. And it became
like we got it, dude. So we would tell our son, Hayes,
okay to clap ten times. Okay, clap ten times, and
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we'd come find you, and we'd come we'd wipe your bottom.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Horror.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
No, the problem is that the house was rather large,
a bit echoey, and you're doing and something else and
you hear this and you're like, what bathroom is that in?
Somebody find that kids.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Like The Conjuring, Doug that that's also the plot of
the movie The Conjuring. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I have not I have not seen The Conjuring man.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I had no people clapping, just just just the image
of clapping, and sure to find horror behind it. Yeah,
it's a real it's a real treat. But hey, lucky
to be able to do with my kids.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's fun, no, no question about it. Okay. So you
said you're out the combine, okay, and Rich Paul's telling
people like, not a package deal, not a package deal,
all these coop these guys clamoring for Bronnie James. Uh,
you talk to real people, real gym. What what's the
real feeling on Brownie the prospect?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Well? Two things, right, I mean I think you know,
we reported after the combine that despite like that messaging,
right like, there were teams that were going to have
conversations and have meetings that say, like if we Brownnie, like,
does this like does this make lebron think about it?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Right? Like?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And I think it's important Doug to realize that it's
like the session that people out there like, oh, like
they're going to waste a draft pick. And I mean
this as respectfully that any player who gets drafted like
thirty five to forty draft picks functionally get wasted every draft,
right Like, the further away from number one you are,
historically speaking, the less likely you have a chance you
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have to succeed. Now that doesn't mean you should draft
me at at fifty one, because why not, you know,
but but I do think like some of the pearl
clutching over the notion of a team using a draft
pick for reasons other than potentially the prospect is one thing. Now,
I do think that they've separated to whatever extent they can,
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you know, Bronnie James from his father's future destinations, right
like the again the wild.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But if they do that has what value? Does he
really have?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
This?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
This is so, this would be the argument for Brownie James.
And this is an argument I've had some talent and
value talent evaluators make to me, right, which is that
his tremendous athlete. He plays the right way.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Not okay, The first thing is he's not a tremendous athlete,
he just ca Yeah, but tremendous athlete. Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
So he plays keep like he has the sort of
wingspan and a vertical leap to make up for some
of his size deficiencies. The shot, the shot is a
work in progress, but he shot it really well in Chicago.
He shot it well in some workouts, and and then
I and then I think, like, honestly, like it's the
feeling as like, is he a player? This is the
question that I many teams are ask themselves. Is he
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a player who's thinking like the things that he does well,
the extra pass like that, that that type of stuff
does that play better around better players. And I think
the notion is right is like you're not drafting Brownie James.
You shouldn't be drafting Bronnie James to play basketball for
you next year. Like he's you know, I mean needs
a second round pick, I think or undrafted based on
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everybody out there. I don't know anybody who has the first.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Round great on him.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
But you know, I I think if you're picking fiftieth,
you know, you look at a player and you say, like, Okay,
he wants to play the right way, he wants to
he wants to do the things that quote unquote winning
basketball players do. He's willing.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I think the thing he said, Doug that was really smart.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The combine.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
That's what he talked about, you know, like Davion Mitchell,
you know what I mean, and looks.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, But here's here's the thing. Okay, let's okay, Let's
let's do the Davion Mitchell comparison. Okay, let's do the
davi On Mitchell comparis tailor. Let's look like he is
Davian Mitchell won a national championship. His nickname was off
Night because everybody got okay to call him Davion Mitchell
is an affront to Davian Mitchell, who, by the way,
Davion Mitchell can't stay in the league and he's an
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unbelievable defender.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And second, he has some real job, right like, he
has one job. He doesn't have a night to night
roll right like, because he's limited and what he's able
to do.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Correct. I mean, I agree, he's a blend player you're
not gonna with And you're right, second round picks, there's
a reason that they're there, but there's.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
That's the argument.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
But you know he is that kind of a player,
and you know you can you're you're if you're going
to be drafting question marks in the mid forties to
the end of the to the end of the you know,
you look at your situation, you look at your developmental system,
and you say, do we think we can improve the shot?
Do we think that you know, this is a player
who will perform better with better teammates and stuff like
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that in a better situation, and sug honestly, here's the
other part of it. Do we think that this is
just a kid who needs a little more time removed
from a heart attack. That's like I think he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
He wasn't a dominant player before the heart attack, correct,
you know. It's like it's like we're acting like he
was a good player.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Though he was a good player.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He had elevated shouldn't been a McDonald's all American, like,
let's not kid ourselves.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
But he had elevated him. I mean, he had elevated
himself at least especially My understanding was like between the
summers of his junior and his senior season, and Doug,
you know this scene much better than I do. But
like that that he taken a real step.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It did not translate. And I went to watch him
in high school basketball. He was just another guy in
high school basketball. I just I can't. I mean, like
looks and you're talking about the other second round picks
are guys like PJ. Hall and Kevin mccullor and Pella
Larson and Tristan Newton. Tristan, like Tristan Newton went back
to back national titles, is an elite defensive player. An
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elite he's I mean, like that's who we're matching up
against It's not it's it's is he all the things
you're talking about? Yes? Is are are all these guys
missing something? Yes? But he's missing so much I just can't.
And then you separate him from the idea of getting
his father along with it, and there's just not a
lot of value there, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
And and Doug, I mean, I think that is sort
of you know, I think you're I think you're right,
and a lot of what you're saying, and I with you.
I mean I think that in the second round, like
you are, You're you're basically like what you're you're doing
two things right. You're drafting for the skills that you
love and the weaknesses that you can accept, right, Like,
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I mean, that's really yea. And if he was six
foot seven to write like, I mean, here's like and
he's not like this was one thing that Scott told
Scout told me about him was like in a Scott
and I trust experience guy. It's like, you know, obviously
if if Bronnie six foot five, like, the conversations around
Brownie are very different. I think you can look at
a player that you know Rich Paul represented last year
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and Chris Livingston, you know, who got a guaranteed deal
with Milwaukee Bucks picked at the end of the second round.
Chris Livingston's NBA body is vastly different than Bronnie James's.
But it wasn't like Chris Livingston had an amazing season
from college basketball despite you know, entering at a five
star prospect and all that stuff. I mean, like, this
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isn't This is not the first time some version of
this has happened, where you look at a situation, look
at an opportunity, and you say, and if it sounds
like I'm arguing for Ronnie, it's that's not it. I
don't really know. I'm just telling you the people that
I some of the people that I trust who like him,
this is what they like about him, right?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is that last thing? Dan? You know the Clippers really
really well, what has led Paul George to have such
a level of discontent with the Clippers?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I mean, I would think he'd want his contract, you know,
or would have wanted it like, you know, a while ago.
And I think this is sort of one of the realities, Doug,
of the second apron and the fear of it and
the fear of the consequences of it. You know, where
if you invest heavily into players that you don't believe
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or you don't know can get you. I mean, it's
so prohibitive. And what you can do in terms of
trades is so prohibitive, and what you can do in
terms of the types of players you can sign, the exceptions,
you have access to all of that stuff. And then
I think, you know, the Clippers have a ton of
smart people working in the organization. You know, you look
around and you see the teams and the way teams
are built, and like that that's you know, one hundred
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and fifty million to three players has not been a
viable pathway. You know, you've got to kind of if
you're going to like go outside your organization for these
sets of stars. The way the clip the Clippers have had
to like, that's not a viable way forwards. It hasn't
worked for anyone, you know, really, So I think that
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the clippers hesitation on that front has opened the door
to speculation. And look, he is going to be heavily
sought after in free agency, you know, despite his limitations,
because this isn't bad free agency, you know, it really is.
And I think Paul George, by the way, is the
kind of guy you know you talk about wanting to
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do things the right way and different things like that.
I mean, Paul George plays the right way when he's
on the court. You'd like to see him play with
more fire, I think, but but look, people are who
they are. He has the skill. Doug Is, I watched
these playoffs, like one of the things like, obviously, right,
it's complicated team building, but in some ways it's really simple.
It's you know, dribble, pass, shoot, defend. It'd be big
(27:15):
like is really like a good and that's what Boston
did excellently, Like they do all of those things. Paul
George does a lot of those things, and I think
he's I mean, he's a fantastic tough shot maker. You
saw that, you know against Dallas at times, but obviously
not the guy that I think. You know, if you
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were looking at the Clippers and saying like, okay, well
we need Kawhi Leonard to we know Kawhi Leonard can
win US Finals games, right, because that's happened before. If
you're picking secondary people, like maybe maybe you just want
to change it up and maybe you think James Harden's
durability during the regular season matters more than Paul George's.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
S Doug Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio. That's
the voice of Dan Wiki. Uh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna
sneak in one more even though I were I love
a dog.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I got time, Doug dry try, we got time.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh I'm getting the wave off from from from Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, we gotta go, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thanks you all right, Dan, we have we have to
do it again. Makes you go get Logan, go hook
him up. Tell me he's the best, big boy, big girl.
Bet is the next? Is next? Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1 (28:34):
S Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Jj Reddick is
the new head coach of the LA Lakers parage in Wargonowski.
Here's Jj and Lebron having this exchange on their podcast
three days before Darvin Ham was fired.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Has any coach, front office person analytics person like on
staff Have they ever came to you and talked to
you about analytics and shot profile with you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Never had that discussion, No, what I mean, they've never
had that discussion with you. That's funny, that's laughable. How
could you do that? Right, that's what that That's what
that felt like, didn it I feel like that to
anybody else? Sure felt like that to me. So uh
(29:22):
it it appears pretty obvious, And it appears pretty obvious
that lebron James wanted this to happen, right, He wanted
this to happen. And I think all these things are connected.
I don't think there's there's just no doubt in my
mind that all of this stuff has some level of
(29:44):
connection in that hey, Bronnie's out there, it's all part
of the drug. Like, he's not gonna come off of
the I I just I find when people lie to me,
and it's really it has no no version of it
could ever be the truth. Like I just sit there
and go like, why why are you trying so hard
(30:04):
to lie to me? What did you actually gain out
of that lie? That's a terrible, terrible lie. Terrible It
isn't close to being true, not even in the in
the in the in the in any way in the
window of having any sort of moder cum of truth
(30:26):
and you sit there and try and bs me like, no, thanks,
no thanks. If you don't think Lebron James is staying
with the Lakers now they hired JJ Reddick, I can't
help you. The two guys did a podcast together and
they're not keeping Lebron James Like, oh yeah, YOI this
(30:47):
is just trying to leverage something. But when it's so
obvious that it's not true, it's like, and I don't
know if it still works this way with uh with
car dealers, but you know, I'm anytime you ever, but well,
hold on, I got to go back to my sales
manager and find out if we can we can do that.
Mister Gottlieb, give me a second, Like, no, that's not
(31:09):
how it works. You know, it's not how it works.
I think it's pretty simple. I mean the car that
I'm currently driving, I want to buy it. I call
I call my guy and it's like, uh, yeah, how
much is it? Okay? Do I want to pay it?
Pretty simple? I call my guy Ryan and Ryan says
(31:29):
this is the price, and then I decide it's not.
I got to go back to my sales manager and
see if we can see what we can do for you.
We can throw in some mudflaps. No, you know, no,
let's make it sense, keep it simple, stupid, I want
the car. I don't want the car, period stop. End
of story. Let's get to Monty Blancos with the news.
(31:51):
Monty Doug.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
I was gonna say, you're just being too logical about this,
but keep it simple.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Stupid was perfect, does it?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean, do you think there's there's no right there's
like again, this whole idea, like I don't mind doing
the agent thing. I get it, okay, but you sit
there and tell me, like Lebron's a free agent. They
just hired JJ Reddick. He's not going anywhere right, His
son's in high school, his daughters in elementary school. He's
building a gigantic mansion. He's not going to Phoenix. Yes,
(32:21):
he's not going to Dallas. He's staying with the Lakers.
And all they're trying to do is get it the
way they want to get it, you know, and threatening
to leave town when they're not leaving town.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, I mean that's exactly what is happening. And you've
laid it out perfectly. I one percent agree with you.
There are no further details as to JJ Reddick's four
year contract to become the next coach of the Lakers.
According to ESPN, Rob Palinka offered the job this morning.
They're already working on a staff to surround Reddick with
more experience. Pelinka became sold on Reddick's ability to connect
(32:53):
with players and his basketball IQ and believe surrounding him
with an elite coaching staff will help to shorten the
learning curve in his first coaching job. This was tweeted
by or Janowski of ESPN. So again, we were we
knew this, We knew this. It was happening.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Stuck Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did you
guys hear this? This is one of those those those stories. Uh.
By the way, Colin Cowhard uh said that earlier today
that the Lakers clearly do not value coaches. They view
(33:31):
them as very disposable. Uh So, I don't. I don't
think of that as as anyway true. I think they
think of all of it being connected and all of
it being related. I do think they value coaches, and
you know, part of it is, you know they I
(33:51):
know that they didn't they didn't offer Danny Hurley one
hundred million dollars and a hundred million dollars would have
been a ridiculous sum of money, but even offering six
years seventy million dollars was above and beyond anything they
normally would have offered to a coach on his first
professional contract NBA contract. So that just shows how they
cheap they've been. But cheap financially does not mean they
(34:13):
necessarily value or don't value somebody. I think those two
things are different. Those two things are different. Did do
you guys hear this Kelly Stafford her podcast? Like, I
don't know, guys, probably not when I want the mother
(34:36):
of my kids sharing on a podcast which has now
gone viral. Guys, do we have the sound of this?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
So?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Kelly Stafford was college sweethearts with Matt Stafford. They're married happily,
so she has had a podcast. She's outspoken, she said
some things as stepped in the holes before, but yet
the pod cast remains. Here's Kelly Stafford on how she
motivated Matt Stafford to locking her up to a lifetime contract.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Wait, so was he trying to casually date? And you
were all yeah, girl? Anyways, long story short, it wasn't
that cute of a relationship. At first, I hated him,
I loved him. I dated the backup to piss him off,
which yes, he was like, that'll do it.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
He was a bad boy too, like Matthew's so sweet
and southern gentleman and all that stuff, and the backup was.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
The complete opposite. Yeah, yeah, ooh, and it upset him.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
So they lived in the same dorm because athletes lived
in the same dorm, and he would see my car
there and so at one point he waited and fought
and followed me out and got in my car and
wouldn't get out up and he was like, this is
so hot.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was like, this is working.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Yeah, I was get out of my car and he's like,
I don't He's not right for you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
And I was like, you can't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Again. All of this might sound really good to tell
a girlfriend and somebody you're really close to. You know,
when it's not really good is when you share it
with the rest of the free world.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, that's a h Let's let's bring in Monsy Belanos again.
I understand, you know, she basically leveraged this other relationship.
This is kind of all what we're talking about Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I had not heard that until this moment in my
jock kept dropping further and further.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I would not.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Say that out loud, but it seems as though she
is very comfortable with how it went down and how
she got her man, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
She just wants to share that information.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh yeah on the podcast, you said? What on the podcast?
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah? I just you know, I feel like Kelly Stafford.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
She seems like a like, like a very nice lady.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
But I think she doesn't you don't think so.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now listen, let me just tell you what the rest
of the guys think. Okay, you want to know you like,
I want what girls think. I'll tell you what guys think.
Guys like, are you a kidding? Right? Like, Hey, Kelly,
you've been along for the ride with the guy worth
about you know, five hundred million dollars. We don't ask
a whole hell of a lot of you. But not
sharing your sexual history with this backup quarterback probably one
(37:20):
of those things that I'm not sure it has to
be a spoken rule, but it's definitely an unspoken rule
that is incredibly uncool. Yeah, so I and then the
backup's a bad boy. Oh my gosh, the things. Wait, Dad,
al Taddy, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And this isn't the first time that we've had a
conversation of something she has said that has affected him.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, And what that is is it's an incredible insecurity, right,
that's all. This is the only reason you would share
that is if you're remarkably insecure as a person that
you had to know everybody that he chased me. I
didn't chase him. I'm not a gold digger.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And it could have been saud just like that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Or what are you doing? And I don't. I don't
have it again, I'm not a double standard, dude, Okay,
I understand that we're all allowed to be humans. We're
all you know, you're a college student, You're gonna have
a past, You're gonna have a history, like we all
got stuff. What I do know is nobody wants that share.
There's not a human being that wants that share.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah. No, I would not be happy.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I would share that about my ex wife, let alone
my wife.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes, good yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It is what world is that? Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 7 (38:29):
What was the goal here to make yourself look cooler?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Because that's not what you got.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's exactly what that's exactly the goal, right, And it's
just like like when you talk to people about you know,
you don't actually have to look cool. You know, it's
really cool just being a good person and having a
great family. And but this is you know, she wants
she wants to make headlines. Congress, you got headlines? I
think that's Jayce. Do help me out here are you
(38:59):
signing off on?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Well? I think it makes great content for something, uh,
you know, for what I do for a living. But
you have to you have to admit, like this tactic
is as old as humans, right. I cave people were
making the other jealous to secure the their their relationship.
This is a a tried and true, tested way to
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secure something that a relationship that you think might be
getting out of hand a little bit. If you if
you sense that your bow is is wandering. This is
something that both male and female have been doing for centuries.
The fact that it's his backup, that that's a little
more what would you call it salacious? Yeah, it couldn't
(39:45):
have been the right guard or even like a defensive lineman.
It had to be the backup. He's got to share
the quarterback room with this guy. The rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That malicious.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That's a little bit more dirty for me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Mons. You do know what the term is, right?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The term what term?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
When you are you and another have been with the
same woman.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't think I do. Maybe I do, and I
just can't think of it at the moment. You can
tell you with Sam have an idea you are something buddies.
Is that what we're going with.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, but it's not it's not a bad word.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It's not about then.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
I yeah, I can't think of it, but I feel like, yeah,
you're gonna tell me.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
To be like, oh no, Sam, No, I don't know
at this point, like this, what about you? What about you?
Jace Jason knows what it is, but he's like, are
you afraid to say it?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
And you're not going for the alliteration term that starts
with swappy?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Right, No, that's what I thought originally, But.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, eskimo bros. That's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Oh yeah, I have heard that expression.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I just again imagine like Matt Stafford is going to
be welcome back to Georgian see had his number retired yet?
Like and there's like there's the backup like aw we're
super awkward, like and then everybody and like, dudes, kind
of no, but now everybody.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Knows what are you doing so terrible?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
How is that? I get like, and she thinks and
it's one of those things where she goes skipping home
thinking the babe best podcast ever, can't wait wait to
hear the numbers, like, yeah, that's that's not really cool.
We have kids, we have kids.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
And also don't say that that's a did.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You did you have to have to say not to
say that? Again? I get Monsie. Maybe I'm more asking here,
does that have to is it something that needs to
be stated? Hey, by the way, how about we don't
talk about the fact that you used to sleep with
my backup?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, I thought that she could sit there.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And go like, no, I never said I didn't sleep
with him like you said he was a bad boy.
You said you were at the same dorm. We've all
been to college before. You know, you didn't tutor him. Yes,
had you not thrown it yet, you could have left
it up for to be you know, a little ambiguous,
if you would have just said, hey, we just went
(42:12):
out a couple of times. Once you said he was
a bad boy, he was the difference. You know this
guy's a Southern gentleman, that guy. Oh yeah, we did
some things.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Again, it's not our first time doing something like this,
saying something like a lot of things are.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Not her first time. No, you know, I were white
on my wedding day. Just to keep everybody happy, That's
what we did. And again like, I'm not a super
Bowl judgment ole guy. I understand it sucks that women
are judged, you know what they do and men do,
you know, roughly the same thing, but publicly.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Hard past kind of sounds like the plot of a
John Hughes movie, you know, like an eighties John Hughes
movie where the ring wald sleeps with the backup with
the quarterback on her sixteenth birthday and she's wearing pink
and they have detention on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah. That there's definitely some tension there. There is no
doubt about it. None, none, none, none, oh yeah yo
yeah yo stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I just don't even like, what is what is dinner conversation?
Like when your wife shares her sexual exploits before you
(43:33):
became husband and wife with the entire world, including with
your children. Everybody always says like I'm gonna be honest
with my kids. Really. Oh, we're gonna tell my kids truth? Really?
How much of the truth are you gonna tell them? Well,
I'm gonna tell my I just I don't want to
(43:53):
lie to my kids. Okay, tell them the whole thing. Tell
them about that time in Mexico you had too much tequila? Right,
tell him at that time? You remember that time?
Speaker 7 (44:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Do you remember that time we were out? It was late? Yeah,
you're not being you know, it's like full honesty. No.
There there's something called privacy. Uh, what's what's it? And look,
I struggle with this one. There's something called boundaries. I'm
not really a big boundary person, like people are, Like,
(44:25):
I have people, they stay at my house. I let
people into my life, you know, people in my life
at times that probably should have been like, but there
are certain boundaries my my personal text life. There's a
boundary there. What I hear that, I mean, I can
just Matt Stafford has to be absolutely mortified, absolutely mortified.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
You do wonder what she's referring to when she says
that this backup was the opposite of Matt and upset him.
What what's the opposite that he did. Who was the
backup by the way, Oh no, it'll take a while,
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I mean, every human being on earth this is has googled.
Who's heard this has been googling, you know, Georgia backup
quarterback Bat Stafford.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Let me tell you he was a bad boy. He
was a bad boy. I'm sure that will that will
come out as well. That guy is having himself a day.
That guy's sitting there going like, eh, up top, Yeah,
that was a bad boy in college stuck otleb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. I mean, am I am?
(45:32):
I dead am? If I'm wrong, I feel free. You
guys tell me I'm wrong. I just don't think I'm
wrong on this one. This one, I'm pretty sure I'm
dead to rights accurate on that. That is that is
a Are you kidding me? Did you think what? At
what point did you think this was a good idea
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goes like this, Chess not checkers, right, Chess not checkers,
And we all use it because it's smart and it's
the assumption that chess is a smarter game than checkers,
is right. Do you remember the last time you played
checkers or the last time you played chess? And by
the way, even suggesting that you played chess is like
(01:06):
saying the word sofa instead of saying couch, which brings
to mind we were discussing before the show the Donald
Sutherland passed away today. Donald Sutherland, one of my favorite
roles with him in movies is six degrees of separation, Right,
you remember six degrees of separation. Will Smith essentially plays
(01:29):
a con man and oops. If you not haven't seen it,
then you're like, wait. But the idea of six degrees
separation is there's you could put six degrees between any
two people and you find a connection anyway. One of
the other parts to it was the connection in the
word in how we associate words with your level of education, right,
don't say don't say beer, say bottle of beer. Don't
(01:53):
say couch, say sofa. Right, elite people say sofas, they
don't say couch. That's why we say chess not checkers.
It's the illusion of sophistication. I think that's what's that
case here with Rich Paul. It's the illusion of sophistication.
It's the attempt to play chess not checkers, when really
(02:16):
you can play chess and just be a bad chess player.
All right, stick with me now, because there's a couple
of different stories that come into one. I remember yesterday
we shared with you these quotes of Rich Paul saying,
like Bronny and Lebron not tied at the hip at all.
Lebron's not going to sign for the minimum. No one
ever said Lebron would sign for the minimum. It's beyond
(02:38):
stupid to ever try and dumb down any sort of
package deal and think Lebron James would sign for anything
less than the max. But when you say that, you're like, well,
I signed for the minimum. No one said that, but
it was this, Hey, listen, Toronto could take him. Dallas
(03:00):
Cooe Harrison, who used to run Nike, he used to
be Lebron's right hand man, would like you. He's like
an uncle to Bronni. Why would Dallas want Bronnie James? Like,
when I say Bronnie James can't play, I don't mean
he actually can't play basketball. I just mean he can't
play in the NBA this year, couldn't play in college
this year. And when I say can't play in college,
it means he could. You couldn't play him extended minutes
(03:23):
and hope to actually win basketball games. And that's not
a complete knock on him. Most freshmen. You couldn't play.
He doesn't have a position. He's a good player, he's
a good human. He has a chance to maybe eventually,
maybe be an NBA end of the bench player. But
(03:43):
right now, no, And if you the Dallas Mavericks and
you just reached the NBA Finals, you're not drafting a
guy who may be somewhere down the road, Oh my gosh,
could be an NBA player, unless you're gonna get lebron
champs with him. We're playing chess, not checkers. Let me
come the two stories. Here's a story from Vince Goodwill.
(04:04):
James Morego could be a name to watch, league sources
told Yahoo Sports as well as ESPN analyst JJ Reddick.
And we're talking about the Detroit Pistons. Reddick is currently
the prime candidate for the Lakers job, so it isn't
known how much traction Detroit could actually gain. Reddick and
Langdon have a duke connection. They were in New Orleans
when Reddick signed there as a free agent before the
pandemic short in twenty nineteen twenty twenty season. Ooh, we
(04:25):
got a connection. But why would JJ Reddick? Let's that
was the story. Okay, I believe that story is bunk bunk. Okay,
Here's what I think is at play. What I believe
is at play is that the story of yesterday and
this story is one and the same. It's that you
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got to create some sort of idea that JJ Reddick
needs to be had by the Lakers. Otherwise you're gonna
lose Lebron, just like if you don't draft Bronnie, you're
gonna lose Lebron. Oh, we got breaking news. Here's Moncey
blagyas MONSI.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Hey, Doug, you couldn't have been more on top of
the topic. But according to ESPN, Adrian war Janowski has
just tweeted, JJ Reddick has agreed on a four year
contract to become the next head coach of the Lakers.
Rob Polinka offered the job this morning. Reddick has already
started working on his staff to surround himself with experience.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
There you go, There you go, easy chest, not checkers.
All they're trying to do is get this deal finished.
How do you get the deal finished by getting a
little leverage? Hey, you know it could be up with
the Piston job. Piston. You know what could happen is
JJ Duke ties. He could work with Trajan Langdon Duke family.
Why would they hire him, Why would he take the
(05:53):
Pistons job? No, No, that's that doesn't fit. That doesn't
fit JJ Reddick. And you can't go from wanting to
coach lebron James and taking a ready made team to
a complete rebuild with the Detroit Pistons when you're a
sitting analyst calling the NBA finals. JJ's not an idiot,
(06:15):
not an idiot. So you look at that story and
it signified to me that they wanted to push to
get the deal done with JJ. Hey, you could lose
JJ here if you don't get this thing done. Detroit
could be interested in him because of Duke Ties. By
the way, JJ Reddick will tell you he has said
publicly he was miserable in New Orleans, miserable. So that
(06:37):
snapshot of JJ being some connector with Trajan Langdon, I
don't buy that one either, just like I don't buy
the look Bronni on his own merits could be like, no,
he's not. I mean, you're not even this is You're
not a Picasso in terms of being a BS artist.
You're more of a paint by numbers Lebron does that
(07:00):
want to leave LA isn't going to leave the Lakers,
but wants to control who's his head coach, and that
Bronni ends up being there. I don't believe for one
second that Lebron is off of the idea of playing
with Bronnie. That's dumb. That's not believable. It's not believable.
If Bronnie James is drafted somehow by another franchise, there
(07:22):
is less than five percent chance he gets a call
up in your one, Why would Lebron James when he
can have him with the Lakers and have him with
the South Bay Lakers and get him a call up,
why would he do that? Like, he's not staying around
the NBA for his health. He wants to compete for
a championship, but he also wants to play with his son.
He stated that as his goal this is do not
fall for really, really, really bad leverage plays. You know,
(07:49):
I got a guy in their line that wants to
buy this car. But if you want to pay over sticker,
it's yours right now. Like, why would I pay oversticker? Well,
there's a limited number of these cars. Okay, My guess
is you can go find another one, and if you can't,
that's gonna be tough. I just again, I think this
is a guy who plays checkers and he's trying to
(08:11):
play chess. And just because you play chess does not
mean that you're sophisticated. Just because you say the words
so far and bottle of beer does not mean I
have to fall for the idea that you know what
you're doing here. I've seen it with bad leverage plays
for Lebron in the past. Right when he was getting
ready to go to the Lakers, they leaked out, Hey,
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he could go to the Spurs. We do know that
the San Antonio Spurs, Hey, their mantra is get over yourself.
Lebron James is a lot of things, Okay, good human being,
great basketball player, good solid teammate, one of the greats
of all times. Over himself is not one of those things.
I don't believe for one second that Lebron is going
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to go to Dallas, is going to go to New Orleans,
and neither does anybody else. I also don't believe those
teams have any interest in drafting him unless they could
get Lebron James. Why would they? Why would they?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So? What do you think about this?
Speaker 1 (09:09):
What I think about JJ Redick?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, JJ Reddick going from the broadcast booth to UH,
from podcast to head coach. And there was that little
thing in between about Danny Hurley being considered more than
JJ Reddick. No hurt feelings there, no awkwardness. Was this
going to be JJ rehck the entire time? Was the
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Dan Hurley thing a huge ruse? All these questions need answers.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I believe that JJ was the prime candidate. I believe
they struggled to fill out of staff and that that
the the Danny Hurley thing was somebody coming in going like,
how do we who else is out there? Like you know,
Danny Hurley hasn't signed his contract. Really let's bring him
in and they want to move heaven and Earth? I
(09:59):
think a big question how many years and how much
money they gave to JJ? But yeah, this was probably there.
This was their plan sort of all along, and the
Danny Hurley thing was more of a did you know
that he was available? And I can tell you that
that happens like in my job and what I do
in terms of signing players is that you have guys
(10:19):
and then somebody calls you or sends you a video
and says what do you think? And you end up
going like, hey, I don't know what do I What
do I think here? Huh? And then you kick it
around and then you circle back to the guys that
you were honed in on to begin with, honed it
on to begin with. So that's my genuine belief. Will
(10:44):
it work? I got no idea. Let's see what they
do with the roster. But I don't think there's any
way in which JJ Reddick is a head coach unless
Lebron James. Okay, tod, Lebron James isn't going anywhere. You
don't hire JJ Reddick, who does podcasts with Lebron James,
unless you've gotten a guarante he that Lebron James wants
JJ Reddick to be his head coach and they're going
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to pitch it to you as in so would I.
As Steve Kirk came right out of the broadcast booth,
had never coached a day in his life, and pat
Riley had sort of been an assistant. But pat Riley
basically came from the broadcast booth and became arguably, or
maybe you know, arguably the greatest coach in Lakers history,
he and Phil Jackson. So I don't think he was
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ever in play in Detroit. I just think that was
some sort of bluff, probably coming from Lebron's camp in
order to make sure the deal got made, just like
Rich Paul with the sort of bluff. Hey, listen, Nicol
Harrison loves loves Bronnie James great, doesn't mean he wants
him on his roster.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dan Wicky's going to
join us and a bit he covers the NBA for
the La Times as the news of the day is
the LA Lakers have hired JJ Reddick, and I don't think. Look,
the hire is unique as we've seen, you know, Kevin McHale,
Vinnie del Negro, Mark Jackson, Jason Kids, Steve Kerr, Derek Fisher,
(12:15):
Steve Nash. I'll be hired without being coaches previously. That
of course myself in college as well. Fred Hoiberg's been
hired in college without having previously been a coach. Chris Mullen.
Heiberg great success, Chris Mullen not great success. So there's
been a variance of it, but really really interesting that
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the Lakers process which seemed to be honing in on
JJ Reddick and then all of a sudden it was
Danny Hurley. Now it's back to JJ Redick. Tug Gotlib
show Fox Sports trader Dan Wike joins us he covers
the NBA for the La Times. Dan that the process
was weird, at least publicly, And look, I'm sure we'll
(12:59):
know more and more in the coming days, weeks, maybe
even months, but what do you know about what really
happened that led JJ Reddick to be a leading candidate
then suddenly Dan Hurley now was apparently being the head
coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
So this is I would say some level of like
informed speculation, Doug, right, like, because I've been working this story.
You know, I was in Chicago at the combine and
everything I heard from people was JJ Redick. You know,
that was the name. When I would stop and get
stopped by bribal gms, I know, by different people around
(13:37):
the NBA who would say, you know, like who's going
to be the coach? Or you know, it's good, why
are they going to hire JJ Redick? They're going to
hire JJ Reddick, you know, and it really really picked
up a lot of steam, right. I can't also say that,
you know, internally the conversations I was having, you know,
(13:57):
like this was a pretty close search, right. It was
Rob Polinka and Genbus we're basically, like, you know, the
only two people who really knew what was going on.
And you know, as I was doing my reporting, I
was hearing things like, you know, the messaging internally being
like this is more open than you realize. This is
an open process. You know, don't believe what you're hearing. Necessarily,
(14:19):
it's a lot of noise. Now. It was never like
openly refuted as to like, you know, we've got this
grand plan with Dan Hurley. So I was always being
kind of fed parallel pieces of information throughout the search
and tried to put that as much in my reporting. Yes,
JJ Redick, people everywhere on the leaf when JJ Rerick
(14:40):
was the front runner, no one you know, potentially outside
of Adrian Rosnerowski knew about Dan Hurley until we all
knew about Dan Hurley. That was kind of very quiet,
and I think it was a scenario where maybe both
things were true. I mean, definitely people believed I can
tell you for sure people thought but this process began
(15:01):
and would end with Jji Reddick. You know, six weeks
ago there was a huge Kurk ball in the middle
of it, and so I guess like everybody was simultaneously
right and wrong. Doug, how that's one played out? It
is really bizarre.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It is really bizarre. Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio,
coming to you from the tyraq dot com studios. Okay,
is the staff set by your estimation?
Speaker 6 (15:29):
No? Not not fully said. I mean I think I
can speak to some of the names that I've heard,
you know, and reported throughout the process. I mean, I
think they want experience on the bench. Scott Brooks, Southern
California native, Doug that you know well is a name
that has come up a lot in this process. We
hurder John Rondo's name, you know, as a guy that
I think people view as being, you know, really smart
(15:52):
and and potential as a coach, certainly you know, played
with Lebron James and Anthony Davis as well. And then
and then I think you add in the other factor
in this. You know, this is a guy like Kara Dudley.
But look, Kara Dudley has a job. He has a
good job. Sam can sell as a player they like.
He's got a job, I'm sorry, a coach that they
like and it is about probably to get promoted. Filling
(16:16):
out of staff is hard, but but I think experience
and lockerroom relatability will be the keys. Do you know
this this process, like you know, figuring out who's going
to be with you and who's going to do what?
It is so critical. It's critical for everybody. It's especially
critical for a first time as coach.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
No question about it. You got to have people that
know what you don't what what you don't know, and
empower them to do their job. This is the Doug
Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Dan Wiki is
our guest. The kids in the background smack them around
me on the Doug Got Joe.
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Doug, Doug, I tell producer Jason this literally potty training
this week. By the way, it's great, great planning on
our U and I say that my son dropped some
real big newsfore us.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The nice nice can I can I share you with
you a potty training story? I have them so when
I when I was at ESPN, my my house when
my son was potty training, had a basement and then
had a playroom upstairs, so there's like three different levels
and so they get to the point to where they
can go in the toilet. But the wiping part is
(17:26):
you don't want a two or two year old or
three year old piping right right, So they're not really
self sufficient. So you get the debt. And it became
like we got it, dude. So we would tell our son, Hayes,
okay to clap ten times. Okay, clap ten times, and
(17:49):
we'd come find you, and we'd come we'd wipe your bottom.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Horror.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
No, the problem is that the house was rather large,
a bit echoey, and you're doing and something else and
you hear this and you're like, what bathroom is that in?
Somebody find that kids.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Like The Conjuring, Doug that that's also the plot of
the movie The Conjuring. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
I have not I have not seen The Conjuring man.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I had no people clapping, just just just the image
of clapping, and sure to find horror behind it. Yeah,
it's a real it's a real treat. But hey, lucky
to be able to do with my kids.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's fun, no, no question about it. Okay. So you
said you're out the combine, okay, and Rich Paul's telling
people like, not a package deal, not a package deal,
all these coop these guys clamoring for Bronnie James. Uh,
you talk to real people, real gym. What what's the
real feeling on Brownie the prospect?
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Well? Two things, right, I mean I think you know,
we reported after the combine that despite like that messaging,
right like, there were teams that were going to have
conversations and have meetings that say, like if we Brownnie, like,
does this like does this make lebron think about it?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Right? Like?
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And I think it's important Doug to realize that it's
like the session that people out there like, oh, like
they're going to waste a draft pick. And I mean
this as respectfully that any player who gets drafted like
thirty five to forty draft picks functionally get wasted every draft,
right Like, the further away from number one you are,
historically speaking, the less likely you have a chance you
(19:25):
have to succeed. Now that doesn't mean you should draft
me at at fifty one, because why not, you know,
but but I do think like some of the pearl
clutching over the notion of a team using a draft
pick for reasons other than potentially the prospect is one thing. Now,
I do think that they've separated to whatever extent they can,
(19:45):
you know, Bronnie James from his father's future destinations, right
like the again the wild.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
But if they do that has what value? Does he
really have?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
This?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
This is so, this would be the argument for Brownie James.
And this is an argument I've had some talent and
value talent evaluators make to me, right, which is that
his tremendous athlete. He plays the right way.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Not okay, The first thing is he's not a tremendous athlete,
he just ca Yeah, but tremendous athlete. Okay.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
So he plays keep like he has the sort of
wingspan and a vertical leap to make up for some
of his size deficiencies. The shot, the shot is a
work in progress, but he shot it really well in Chicago.
He shot it well in some workouts, and and then
I and then I think, like, honestly, like it's the
feeling as like, is he a player? This is the
question that I many teams are ask themselves. Is he
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a player who's thinking like the things that he does well,
the extra pass like that, that that type of stuff
does that play better around better players. And I think
the notion is right is like you're not drafting Brownie James.
You shouldn't be drafting Bronnie James to play basketball for
you next year. Like he's you know, I mean needs
a second round pick, I think or undrafted based on
(21:04):
everybody out there. I don't know anybody who has the first.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Round great on him.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
But you know, I I think if you're picking fiftieth,
you know, you look at a player and you say, like, Okay,
he wants to play the right way, he wants to
he wants to do the things that quote unquote winning
basketball players do. He's willing.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
You know.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I think the thing he said, Doug that was really smart.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
The combine.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
That's what he talked about, you know, like Davion Mitchell,
you know what I mean, and looks.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Okay, But here's here's the thing. Okay, let's okay, Let's
let's do the Davion Mitchell comparison. Okay, let's do the
davi On Mitchell comparis tailor. Let's look like he is
Davian Mitchell won a national championship. His nickname was off
Night because everybody got okay to call him Davion Mitchell
is an affront to Davian Mitchell, who, by the way,
Davion Mitchell can't stay in the league and he's an
(21:53):
unbelievable defender.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
And second, he has some real job, right like, he
has one job. He doesn't have a night to night
roll right like, because he's limited and what he's able
to do.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Correct. I mean, I agree, he's a blend player you're
not gonna with And you're right, second round picks, there's
a reason that they're there, but there's.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
That's the argument.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Is that right?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
But you know he is that kind of a player,
and you know you can you're you're if you're going
to be drafting question marks in the mid forties to
the end of the to the end of the you know,
you look at your situation, you look at your developmental system,
and you say, do we think we can improve the shot?
Do we think that you know, this is a player
who will perform better with better teammates and stuff like
(22:33):
that in a better situation, and sug honestly, here's the
other part of it. Do we think that this is
just a kid who needs a little more time removed
from a heart attack. That's like I think he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
He wasn't a dominant player before the heart attack, correct,
you know. It's like it's like we're acting like he
was a good player.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Though he was a good player.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
He had elevated shouldn't been a McDonald's all American, like,
let's not kid ourselves.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
But he had elevated him. I mean, he had elevated
himself at least especially My understanding was like between the
summers of his junior and his senior season, and Doug,
you know this scene much better than I do. But
like that that he taken a real step.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
It did not translate. And I went to watch him
in high school basketball. He was just another guy in
high school basketball. I just I can't. I mean, like
looks and you're talking about the other second round picks
are guys like PJ. Hall and Kevin mccullor and Pella
Larson and Tristan Newton. Tristan, like Tristan Newton went back
to back national titles, is an elite defensive player. An
(23:33):
elite he's I mean, like that's who we're matching up
against It's not it's it's is he all the things
you're talking about? Yes? Is are are all these guys
missing something? Yes? But he's missing so much I just can't.
And then you separate him from the idea of getting
his father along with it, and there's just not a
lot of value there, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
And and Doug, I mean, I think that is sort
of you know, I think you're I think you're right,
and a lot of what you're saying, and I with you.
I mean I think that in the second round, like
you are, You're you're basically like what you're you're doing
two things right. You're drafting for the skills that you
love and the weaknesses that you can accept, right, Like,
(24:13):
I mean, that's really yea. And if he was six
foot seven to write like, I mean, here's like and
he's not like this was one thing that Scott told
Scout told me about him was like in a Scott
and I trust experience guy. It's like, you know, obviously
if if Bronnie six foot five, like, the conversations around
Brownie are very different. I think you can look at
a player that you know Rich Paul represented last year
(24:36):
and Chris Livingston, you know, who got a guaranteed deal
with Milwaukee Bucks picked at the end of the second round.
Chris Livingston's NBA body is vastly different than Bronnie James's.
But it wasn't like Chris Livingston had an amazing season
from college basketball despite you know, entering at a five
star prospect and all that stuff. I mean, like, this
(24:56):
isn't This is not the first time some version of
this has happened, where you look at a situation, look
at an opportunity, and you say, and if it sounds
like I'm arguing for Ronnie, it's that's not it. I
don't really know. I'm just telling you the people that
I some of the people that I trust who like him,
this is what they like about him, right?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Is that last thing? Dan? You know the Clippers really
really well, what has led Paul George to have such
a level of discontent with the Clippers?
Speaker 6 (25:24):
I mean, I would think he'd want his contract, you know,
or would have wanted it like, you know, a while ago.
And I think this is sort of one of the realities, Doug,
of the second apron and the fear of it and
the fear of the consequences of it. You know, where
if you invest heavily into players that you don't believe
(25:47):
or you don't know can get you. I mean, it's
so prohibitive. And what you can do in terms of
trades is so prohibitive, and what you can do in
terms of the types of players you can sign, the exceptions,
you have access to all of that stuff. And then
I think, you know, the Clippers have a ton of
smart people working in the organization. You know, you look
around and you see the teams and the way teams
are built, and like that that's you know, one hundred
(26:10):
and fifty million to three players has not been a
viable pathway. You know, you've got to kind of if
you're going to like go outside your organization for these
sets of stars. The way the clip the Clippers have had
to like, that's not a viable way forwards. It hasn't
worked for anyone, you know, really, So I think that
(26:31):
the clippers hesitation on that front has opened the door
to speculation. And look, he is going to be heavily
sought after in free agency, you know, despite his limitations,
because this isn't bad free agency, you know, it really is.
And I think Paul George, by the way, is the
kind of guy you know you talk about wanting to
(26:51):
do things the right way and different things like that.
I mean, Paul George plays the right way when he's
on the court. You'd like to see him play with
more fire, I think, but but look, people are who
they are. He has the skill. Doug Is, I watched
these playoffs, like one of the things like, obviously, right,
it's complicated team building, but in some ways it's really simple.
It's you know, dribble, pass, shoot, defend. It'd be big
(27:15):
like is really like a good and that's what Boston
did excellently, Like they do all of those things. Paul
George does a lot of those things, and I think
he's I mean, he's a fantastic tough shot maker. You
saw that, you know against Dallas at times, but obviously
not the guy that I think. You know, if you
(27:36):
were looking at the Clippers and saying like, okay, well
we need Kawhi Leonard to we know Kawhi Leonard can
win US Finals games, right, because that's happened before. If
you're picking secondary people, like maybe maybe you just want
to change it up and maybe you think James Harden's
durability during the regular season matters more than Paul George's.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
S Doug Gottlieb Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio. That's
the voice of Dan Wiki. Uh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna
sneak in one more even though I were I love
a dog.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I got time, Doug dry try, we got time.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Oh I'm getting the wave off from from from Jason Stewart.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, we gotta go, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Thanks you all right, Dan, we have we have to
do it again. Makes you go get Logan, go hook
him up. Tell me he's the best, big boy, big girl.
Bet is the next? Is next? Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Thanks, I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
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Speaker 1 (28:34):
S Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. Jj Reddick is
the new head coach of the LA Lakers parage in Wargonowski.
Here's Jj and Lebron having this exchange on their podcast
three days before Darvin Ham was fired.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Has any coach, front office person analytics person like on
staff Have they ever came to you and talked to
you about analytics and shot profile with you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Never had that discussion, No, what I mean, they've never
had that discussion with you. That's funny, that's laughable. How
could you do that? Right, that's what that That's what
that felt like, didn it I feel like that to
anybody else? Sure felt like that to me. So uh
(29:22):
it it appears pretty obvious, And it appears pretty obvious
that lebron James wanted this to happen, right, He wanted
this to happen. And I think all these things are connected.
I don't think there's there's just no doubt in my
mind that all of this stuff has some level of
(29:44):
connection in that hey, Bronnie's out there, it's all part
of the drug. Like, he's not gonna come off of
the I I just I find when people lie to me,
and it's really it has no no version of it
could ever be the truth. Like I just sit there
and go like, why why are you trying so hard
(30:04):
to lie to me? What did you actually gain out
of that lie? That's a terrible, terrible lie. Terrible It
isn't close to being true, not even in the in
the in the in the in any way in the
window of having any sort of moder cum of truth
(30:26):
and you sit there and try and bs me like, no, thanks,
no thanks. If you don't think Lebron James is staying
with the Lakers now they hired JJ Reddick, I can't
help you. The two guys did a podcast together and
they're not keeping Lebron James Like, oh yeah, YOI this
(30:47):
is just trying to leverage something. But when it's so
obvious that it's not true, it's like, and I don't
know if it still works this way with uh with
car dealers, but you know, I'm anytime you ever, but well,
hold on, I got to go back to my sales
manager and find out if we can we can do that.
Mister Gottlieb, give me a second, Like, no, that's not
(31:09):
how it works. You know, it's not how it works.
I think it's pretty simple. I mean the car that
I'm currently driving, I want to buy it. I call
I call my guy and it's like, uh, yeah, how
much is it? Okay? Do I want to pay it?
Pretty simple? I call my guy Ryan and Ryan says
(31:29):
this is the price, and then I decide it's not.
I got to go back to my sales manager and
see if we can see what we can do for you.
We can throw in some mudflaps. No, you know, no,
let's make it sense, keep it simple, stupid, I want
the car. I don't want the car, period stop. End
of story. Let's get to Monty Blancos with the news.
(31:51):
Monty Doug.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
I was gonna say, you're just being too logical about this,
but keep it simple.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Stupid was perfect, does it?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I mean, do you think there's there's no right there's
like again, this whole idea, like I don't mind doing
the agent thing. I get it, okay, but you sit
there and tell me, like Lebron's a free agent. They
just hired JJ Reddick. He's not going anywhere right, His
son's in high school, his daughters in elementary school. He's
building a gigantic mansion. He's not going to Phoenix. Yes,
(32:21):
he's not going to Dallas. He's staying with the Lakers.
And all they're trying to do is get it the
way they want to get it, you know, and threatening
to leave town when they're not leaving town.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, I mean that's exactly what is happening. And you've
laid it out perfectly. I one percent agree with you.
There are no further details as to JJ Reddick's four
year contract to become the next coach of the Lakers.
According to ESPN, Rob Palinka offered the job this morning.
They're already working on a staff to surround Reddick with
more experience. Pelinka became sold on Reddick's ability to connect
(32:53):
with players and his basketball IQ and believe surrounding him
with an elite coaching staff will help to shorten the
learning curve in his first coaching job. This was tweeted
by or Janowski of ESPN. So again, we were we
knew this, We knew this. It was happening.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Stuck Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Did you
guys hear this? This is one of those those those stories. Uh.
By the way, Colin Cowhard uh said that earlier today
that the Lakers clearly do not value coaches. They view
(33:31):
them as very disposable. Uh So, I don't. I don't
think of that as as anyway true. I think they
think of all of it being connected and all of
it being related. I do think they value coaches, and
you know, part of it is, you know they I
(33:51):
know that they didn't they didn't offer Danny Hurley one
hundred million dollars and a hundred million dollars would have
been a ridiculous sum of money, but even offering six
years seventy million dollars was above and beyond anything they
normally would have offered to a coach on his first
professional contract NBA contract. So that just shows how they
cheap they've been. But cheap financially does not mean they
(34:13):
necessarily value or don't value somebody. I think those two
things are different. Those two things are different. Did do
you guys hear this Kelly Stafford her podcast? Like, I
don't know, guys, probably not when I want the mother
(34:36):
of my kids sharing on a podcast which has now
gone viral. Guys, do we have the sound of this?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
So?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Kelly Stafford was college sweethearts with Matt Stafford. They're married happily,
so she has had a podcast. She's outspoken, she said
some things as stepped in the holes before, but yet
the pod cast remains. Here's Kelly Stafford on how she
motivated Matt Stafford to locking her up to a lifetime contract.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Wait, so was he trying to casually date? And you
were all yeah, girl? Anyways, long story short, it wasn't
that cute of a relationship. At first, I hated him,
I loved him. I dated the backup to piss him off,
which yes, he was like, that'll do it.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
He was a bad boy too, like Matthew's so sweet
and southern gentleman and all that stuff, and the backup was.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
The complete opposite. Yeah, yeah, ooh, and it upset him.
Speaker 9 (35:32):
So they lived in the same dorm because athletes lived
in the same dorm, and he would see my car
there and so at one point he waited and fought
and followed me out and got in my car and
wouldn't get out up and he was like, this is
so hot.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I was like, this is working.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Yeah, I was get out of my car and he's like,
I don't He's not right for you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
And I was like, you can't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Again. All of this might sound really good to tell
a girlfriend and somebody you're really close to. You know,
when it's not really good is when you share it
with the rest of the free world.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, that's a h Let's let's bring in Monsy Belanos again.
I understand, you know, she basically leveraged this other relationship.
This is kind of all what we're talking about Yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
I had not heard that until this moment in my
jock kept dropping further and further.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I would not.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Say that out loud, but it seems as though she
is very comfortable with how it went down and how
she got her man, and.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
She just wants to share that information.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Oh yeah on the podcast, you said? What on the podcast?
Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah? I just you know, I feel like Kelly Stafford.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
She seems like a like, like a very nice lady.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
But I think she doesn't you don't think so.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now listen, let me just tell you what the rest
of the guys think. Okay, you want to know you like,
I want what girls think. I'll tell you what guys think.
Guys like, are you a kidding? Right? Like, Hey, Kelly,
you've been along for the ride with the guy worth
about you know, five hundred million dollars. We don't ask
a whole hell of a lot of you. But not
sharing your sexual history with this backup quarterback probably one
(37:20):
of those things that I'm not sure it has to
be a spoken rule, but it's definitely an unspoken rule
that is incredibly uncool. Yeah, so I and then the
backup's a bad boy. Oh my gosh, the things. Wait, Dad,
al Taddy, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 7 (37:36):
And this isn't the first time that we've had a
conversation of something she has said that has affected him.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yes, And what that is is it's an incredible insecurity, right,
that's all. This is the only reason you would share
that is if you're remarkably insecure as a person that
you had to know everybody that he chased me. I
didn't chase him. I'm not a gold digger.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
And it could have been saud just like that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Or what are you doing? And I don't. I don't
have it again, I'm not a double standard, dude, Okay,
I understand that we're all allowed to be humans. We're
all you know, you're a college student, You're gonna have
a past, You're gonna have a history, like we all
got stuff. What I do know is nobody wants that share.
There's not a human being that wants that share.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah. No, I would not be happy.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I would share that about my ex wife, let alone
my wife.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes, good yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
It is what world is that? Okay?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Right?
Speaker 7 (38:29):
What was the goal here to make yourself look cooler?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Because that's not what you got.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That's exactly what that's exactly the goal, right, And it's
just like like when you talk to people about you know,
you don't actually have to look cool. You know, it's
really cool just being a good person and having a
great family. And but this is you know, she wants
she wants to make headlines. Congress, you got headlines? I
think that's Jayce. Do help me out here are you
(38:59):
signing off on?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Well? I think it makes great content for something, uh,
you know, for what I do for a living. But
you have to you have to admit, like this tactic
is as old as humans, right. I cave people were
making the other jealous to secure the their their relationship.
This is a a tried and true, tested way to
(39:23):
secure something that a relationship that you think might be
getting out of hand a little bit. If you if
you sense that your bow is is wandering. This is
something that both male and female have been doing for centuries.
The fact that it's his backup, that that's a little
more what would you call it salacious? Yeah, it couldn't
(39:45):
have been the right guard or even like a defensive lineman.
It had to be the backup. He's got to share
the quarterback room with this guy. The rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That malicious.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
That's a little bit more dirty for me.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Mons. You do know what the term is, right?
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The term what term?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
When you are you and another have been with the
same woman.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't think I do. Maybe I do, and I
just can't think of it at the moment. You can
tell you with Sam have an idea you are something buddies.
Is that what we're going with.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, but it's not it's not a bad word.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It's not about then.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
I yeah, I can't think of it, but I feel like, yeah,
you're gonna tell me.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
To be like, oh no, Sam, No, I don't know
at this point, like this, what about you? What about you?
Jace Jason knows what it is, but he's like, are
you afraid to say it?
Speaker 4 (40:41):
And you're not going for the alliteration term that starts
with swappy?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Right, No, that's what I thought originally, But.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Well, eskimo bros. That's what it's called.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Oh yeah, I have heard that expression.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I just again imagine like Matt Stafford is going to
be welcome back to Georgian see had his number retired yet?
Like and there's like there's the backup like aw we're
super awkward, like and then everybody and like, dudes, kind
of no, but now everybody.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Knows what are you doing so terrible?
Speaker 1 (41:10):
How is that? I get like, and she thinks and
it's one of those things where she goes skipping home
thinking the babe best podcast ever, can't wait wait to
hear the numbers, like, yeah, that's that's not really cool.
We have kids, we have kids.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
And also don't say that that's a did.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
You did you have to have to say not to
say that? Again? I get Monsie. Maybe I'm more asking here,
does that have to is it something that needs to
be stated? Hey, by the way, how about we don't
talk about the fact that you used to sleep with
my backup?
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, I thought that she could sit there.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
And go like, no, I never said I didn't sleep
with him like you said he was a bad boy.
You said you were at the same dorm. We've all
been to college before. You know, you didn't tutor him. Yes,
had you not thrown it yet, you could have left
it up for to be you know, a little ambiguous,
if you would have just said, hey, we just went
(42:12):
out a couple of times. Once you said he was
a bad boy, he was the difference. You know this
guy's a Southern gentleman, that guy. Oh yeah, we did
some things.
Speaker 7 (42:22):
Again, it's not our first time doing something like this,
saying something like a lot of things are.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Not her first time. No, you know, I were white
on my wedding day. Just to keep everybody happy, That's
what we did. And again like, I'm not a super
Bowl judgment ole guy. I understand it sucks that women
are judged, you know what they do and men do,
you know, roughly the same thing, but publicly.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Hard past kind of sounds like the plot of a
John Hughes movie, you know, like an eighties John Hughes
movie where the ring wald sleeps with the backup with
the quarterback on her sixteenth birthday and she's wearing pink
and they have detention on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah. That there's definitely some tension there. There is no
doubt about it. None, none, none, none, oh yeah yo
yeah yo stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
I just don't even like, what is what is dinner conversation?
Like when your wife shares her sexual exploits before you
(43:33):
became husband and wife with the entire world, including with
your children. Everybody always says like I'm gonna be honest
with my kids. Really. Oh, we're gonna tell my kids truth? Really?
How much of the truth are you gonna tell them? Well,
I'm gonna tell my I just I don't want to
(43:53):
lie to my kids. Okay, tell them the whole thing. Tell
them about that time in Mexico you had too much tequila? Right,
tell him at that time? You remember that time?
Speaker 7 (44:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
Do you remember that time we were out? It was late? Yeah,
you're not being you know, it's like full honesty. No.
There there's something called privacy. Uh, what's what's it? And look,
I struggle with this one. There's something called boundaries. I'm
not really a big boundary person, like people are, Like,
(44:25):
I have people, they stay at my house. I let
people into my life, you know, people in my life
at times that probably should have been like, but there
are certain boundaries my my personal text life. There's a
boundary there. What I hear that, I mean, I can
just Matt Stafford has to be absolutely mortified, absolutely mortified.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
You do wonder what she's referring to when she says
that this backup was the opposite of Matt and upset him.
What what's the opposite that he did. Who was the
backup by the way, Oh no, it'll take a while,
little bit of.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I mean, every human being on earth this is has googled.
Who's heard this has been googling, you know, Georgia backup
quarterback Bat Stafford.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Let me tell you he was a bad boy. He
was a bad boy. I'm sure that will that will
come out as well. That guy is having himself a day.
That guy's sitting there going like, eh, up top, Yeah,
that was a bad boy in college stuck otleb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. I mean, am I am?
(45:32):
I dead am? If I'm wrong, I feel free. You
guys tell me I'm wrong. I just don't think I'm
wrong on this one. This one, I'm pretty sure I'm
dead to rights accurate on that. That is that is
a Are you kidding me? Did you think what? At
what point did you think this was a good idea
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