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June 21, 2024 44 mins

On a Friday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about all of the news surrounding the Los Angeles Lakers right now and warns you to not believe what is coming out of Lebron's camp concerning his future and playing with Bronny. 

Doug welcomes NBA Insider Marc Stein onto the show to talk about the Lakers, Thunder and all of the other major headlines around the NBA.

Doug and the crew crack open a cold one and chat about what they are looking forward to this weekend. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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my mom didn't raise a fool, right, And obviously I

(00:47):
think all of us on some level have been duped
for something before. You could be duped by somebody you dated,
somebody you married, somebody you worked for, somebody you invested with,
somebody you voted for president. You could be duped. You
thought it was one thing and it's really another. And

(01:08):
it's not that I am not a trustworthy fella. For
the most part, I trust people too much, not too little.
That being said, I didn't buy. And this was going
into yesterday's show in the day before, didn't buy for
one second this Rich Paul idea that Ronnie James could
go somewhere on his own outside of where his dad

(01:30):
would go, and that his dad is a free agent
and could go anywhere to just play basketball. They hire
his podcast partner, who I think most people believe he's
advocated on some level. Four And look, I don't know
what happens in a lot of people's future. I just don't.

(01:54):
I don't think anybody can. But I do know that
Lebron James would bearn a Laker uniform next year. I mean,
if he's not, then what are the Lakers doing? How
disconnected are that that they don't know? They're star enough
to know. But if Lebron swears by a guy, your
team hires that guy. And there's all these other things
that tell us you're not you're not going anywhere, like

(02:18):
daughter and elementary school, son in high school, brand new,
big mansion. You're still building, like you're not going to
another city. So now you build up a kind of
a base of where they can where a Bronni can
can go and can potentially develop and they're just trying
to leverage that relationship, which is all that we've been

(02:42):
talking about, and it all is interrelated, right, lebron wants
to play with Bronni. His best way to do so
is to do it with the Lakers, and his best
way to do it with the Lakers is somebody he
can work with and maybe quasi control in a JJ
b Reddick. It all makes way, way, way too much sense.

(03:04):
And if you're denying that, well then you're just denying
all of the past history and what it would lead
you to believe. I don't think drafting or playing Bronny
gets you any close to an championship. I do agree
with the idea that it's going to be hard to
win a championship in your first year, and you're talking
about two more years with lebron. But if youre JJ

(03:25):
b Redt and Lakers come calling, you got to pick
up the phone. You got to pick up the phone.
I don't see how you don't pick up the phone.
If that, you know, maybe that's maybe that should be.
Like they did a pole question today on Dan Patrick,
who's going to have a better year me or JJ Reddick. Hey, look,

(03:46):
if I can have Lebron and Anthony Davis. I'll definitely
have a better year. I love my guys now. But
Anthony Davis and Lebron James. You can't win, you know,
fifty plus games with those two and Austin reives, then
there's something wrong with you. But the difference is in
college basketball, people have to like it and be into it.

(04:07):
You got to raise BOOSTERR money, you got to raise nil,
you got to get along on campus. You have other
professors that are coming to see you. You got the lum's
coming to see you. You know, these are all real
things that you really have to do. When you're in
the NBA. All you got to do is manage personalities
and coach ball in that order, in that order. Will

(04:28):
it succeed or will it fail? I guess part of
it is what are you determine to be success? What
are you determine to be a failure? And then we
don't know what his team fully looks like. I mean,
obviously you have to make the playoffs. You got to
get out of the first round, and if you do
in your first year, like then you just kind of
see what happens. But to me, you've tried everything for

(04:54):
Lebron to give him a head coach, you go back
to Cleveland to Miami. There's been a lot of different
people that of coach this guy. And again just to
guess is he likes Smart. He thinks JJ is among
the smartest dudes in the sport. So he wanted to
hire smart. And if that's who your dad says to hire,
and he's the best player in the Lakers and one

(05:16):
of the greatest players of all time, then by all means,
if he wants to get picked up in Green Bay
as supposed to Appleton, you pick him up in Green
Bay as supposed Appleton. I don't think I'm stating anything
that anybody doesn't know to be unequivocally the truth the truth. Uh,
Jay Stu, Are you yearning to see Lebron and Bronnie

(05:39):
Lebron and Bronnie play in the Lakers' uniform?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, I'll tune in. That'll be interesting. It's kind
of the side show, right. I don't think that it's
going to equal winning, but the side show of any
player playing with the son is kind of cool. We
all remember, can least I do? Yeah? K Griffy and
Kon Griffy Junior playing in the same game. That was memorable.

(06:04):
But yeah, the sideshow of it, that's that's all it
would be. I'm interested, though, in what the Rich Paul
strategy is. It seems like he's he's thrown out all
the stuff, I think with the hopes that the Lakers
take him with that seventeenth pick, and.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
He's seventeenth pick on a guy he's not raised.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Exactly at all. But that's obviously that's obvious a strategy
here that he doesn't want to settle for being a
second round pick. In my theory is that this speaks
to Lebron's ego, like I'm not going to have a
son that isn't a first rounder, you know. I think
that rich Paul is under a mandate to get Brownie
drafted with that seventeenth pick, and he's just going to

(06:46):
try all the stops before the draft.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm sure he wants to do. I mean, it's like
anything any parent, you're blinded by love. It is interesting
that one of the great players of all time, he
obviously clearly thinks way more highly of a son than
most people do. But what is rich Paul trying to do?
He's trying to do, but right, buy his client. But
it does sound it does sound kind of circus acting

(07:13):
when there I just I don't buy for one minute
that he would go anything other than the fifties. And
oh yeah, by the way, they basically said, hey, it's
not a package deal. If it's not a package deal,
why would you draft Bronnie James? Makes no sense? Yes,
I was Sam all right.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Back to JJ Reddick for a moment. Darvin Ham's two
teams both went to the playoffs, including his first year
to the conference finals. Where does that set set the
expectations for you with JJ Reddick.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
The same place as those two teams. I mean, you
got to get to the playoffs. You have lebron James,
you have Anthony Davis. If they're healthy, you got They
got to be in the playoffs, no question. If they're healthy.
If those two are healthy, you got to be in
the playoffs. How far you go in the playoffs? Again, like,
and maybe this doesn't matter to the masses, but I

(08:06):
mean you'll be able to know by watching them play
how they're coached. Again, I don't think it's rocket science.
There's no rocket scientists on the sideline. Is it similar
to me? Is it the same as me. It's similar.
You know, JJ wasn't out of he was in the
NBA far, you know, a lot longer than I played
professional basketball. And if you play in the NBA eighty

(08:29):
two games for these good coaches, you learn a ton,
a ton of different sets and whatever, and you know,
finding your own coaching voice and your go and coaching
strategy and how you do things like remember, like I
have coached like a thousand AAU games and I've coached
other games with professionals before, so I do have some
sense of dealing with it. Now he's played in NBA

(08:50):
games and he has a different skill set there. But
it's not an impossible task. It's just you're gonna have
to learn a lot and you have eighty two games
and you're still playing coaching Lebron James Nanthony Davis, and
you're they're the Lakers, So you get everybody's best game,
and everybody's gonna want to want to run it up
on you. There's a lot of challenges there, a lot

(09:10):
of challenges. You know.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
What I find interesting is just the comparison of the
two head coaching moves that were made in the NBA
this week, where you have the worst team in the
NBA and the most storied franchise in the NBA, making
two moves that are completely opposite of each other in
so many different ways, in terms of Monty Williams being

(09:33):
ousted by the Pistons after just one year and sixty
five million dollars left on his contract and the Lakers
then hiring JJ Reddick to this point, which had been
rumored for about a month. With Reddick obviously for reasons
why he wouldn't be under consideration for other head coaching jobs.

(09:57):
He probably wouldn't be interested in those jobs. But it
wasn't like other people were knocking down their doors to
try to just get an interview with JJ Reddick. We've
heard nothing of Charlotte of Cleveland, of any of these teams,
Detroit when it opened for the day that it was
before JJ got the job coming open, and it just

(10:19):
to me, it's it's just odd that the Pistons are
saying we're willing to eat sixty five million dollars with
Manti Williams, who was loved by everybody of the league,
and the Lakers are like, you know what, JJ Reddick's
going to be our guy.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
It just it's.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
And by saying all of that, what I'm saying is
I don't think it's a great look for the Lakers.
That's just the point. The Pistons, well just of the Pistons,
are willing to get rid of a veteran coach and
pay sixty five million dollars to do so because they
feel that it's going to be right for their organization
under the new president of basketball operations. And the Lakers

(10:59):
again are hiring a guy who wasn't under consideration for
any other jobs because it's you know, Lebron's boy is buddy,
no question.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Doug Gottlieb show here a Fox Sports trader that's the
voice of Dan Byer giving us his sense of the
Lakers and hiring excuse me, hiring JJ Reddick as their
as their head coach. Yeah, I mean, look, it does
make the dynamic different because you have a pre existing
more than friendly relationship with the superstar on the team.

(11:34):
But again, I don't think makes his job more difficult.
In order to get that, In order to get the
Lakers to work, Lebron has to buy into everything you're saying, period.
And to the people who say, well, Lebron will be different.
Nobody will talk around him because he's in the locker room. Like,
do you really think Lebron is hanging with those guys
in the locker room when you're forty years old and
you got a kid who's going to be playing professional basketball,

(11:56):
another one playing high school and a daughter. He's not
like he's hanging out and doing locker room chatter. I
think they could be fine, So I'll get it based
on personnel.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Isn't it going to be interesting though, to listen to
Rob Palinka explain the higher I'm looking forward to that
because I don't know how disingenuine or how genuine he'll be.
But it just I don't know if you've seen, like
the story kind of making the rounds that the Lakers
basically listen to the podcast and a lot of their

(12:25):
opinions about JJ Redick are based on what he said
in the podcast to Lebron. I don't know how truthful
that is. There's this like sequence, this timeline that's been
laid out in the last day where remember that time
that JJ Reddick had it out. He was talking to
Steven A and he's like, you know, I do I
do a video on Zion on wine and I get

(12:46):
like ten thousand views, and then I go off on
doc Rivers and I get millions of views. Do people
really want to be educated about the sport? A week later,
he and Lebron have a deal for a podcast. Then
they start talking inside basketball, and then there's that clip
that we've played on this show a couple of times
where JJ Reddick basically says, has anybody ever sat you
down and talked about shooting and analytics? And then the

(13:08):
Lebron's like, hell no, it just I want Polinka to
tell us that this just wasn't him listening to Reddick
do a podcast with Lebron.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
No, I think they convinced themselves he could be pat Riley,
you know, he can be Steve Kerr. I think it's
a bit of a stretch, but I'm definitely willing to
hear it out. So I think that's going to be interesting.
I don't know if it was because of listen to
a podcast as much as the overwhelming support of pod

(13:39):
and the thought that here's a brilliant basketball mind and
that'll be easy, but yeah, it's going to be fascinating.
I do think you could. I could get you five
minutes on his calendar, both of my boss. You get
five minutes in the calendar and see what he thinks
if you like. After the show.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
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Speaker 1 (14:04):
I can't believe I blew it. I can't believe I
blew it. Guys, I'm so sorry. I that segment was
so good and I was so into my the the
auto shop conversation, the beer conversation. I forgot what I'm
doing Saturday night. I have a better weekend than I thought.
Tell us, Okay, so I was going to go. I

(14:26):
was going to go to Boston and recruit. And then
Darius is playing with Hooting the Blowfish at at Fenway
last year, Darius opened for Caine Brown at at Fenway.
That was one of the all time nights because we
got a chance to just hang out the whole night
on his in his in his bus. But I felt like,

(14:48):
you know, I got to meet the local high school
coaches here. So Chesney is at what is Miller Park
now known as America Something Something Buyer.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
America Good Family Insurance Field.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
American Family Insurance Field. So it's who Who's It's Zach
Brown Band and Kenny Chesney Zach Brown Band and Kenny
Chesney at American Family Financial Field Stadium Arena on Saturday,

(15:22):
so Hoop all day concert at night, Hoop the next day,
golf at golf and some shandies. I think I went.
I think I went the weekend. I think I went
the weekend. Yeah, I did. Mark stein joins us NBA Inside.
He published a substack called The Steinlein co host of
the podcast This League Uncut with fellow insider Chris Haynes.

(15:45):
Find it where you find podcasts. Am I supposed to
believe what is coming out of Lebron's agent's mouth that
they're not tied together and lots of teams are interested
on Bronnie James by himself, I don't.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
I don't think they're tied together in terms of if
you draft Brownie, you're going to get Lebron. I actually
think that is there a team or two out there
that thinks that. I suppose that's possible. But I think
if you asked most front offices, and I think if
they were handed with you, they would say they expect

(16:26):
Lebron to stay a Laker. And I do think that's
the expectation around the league. And I do think that
Bronni's going to get drafted, I really do. I just
you know that this is a draft that obviously all
the draft experts in the world will tell you there's

(16:48):
no clear cut number one. There don't appear to be
any surefire franchise players anywhere near When Ben Yama's zip
code from last season, would le bron would would Lebron would?
Would Bronny be drafted in the second round because a
team wants to take a chance on him and see
if he grows into his potential and becomes a good

(17:14):
NBA role player. Yes, I think so.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I agree with you, though, and especially in regards to
the first part, which is, uh, if you'd if you'd
hired JJ Redick, lebron James isn't going anywhere, right.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
But the other thing is, it's just it's just is
Lebron gonna go somewhere?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, no, no, mid I don't think he was going
anywhere anyway, right, Like, he's got one in high school,
he's got one elementary school. He's being building a colossal mansion, Like,
I don't think he's not He wasn't going anywhere. But
then you hire JJ Redick, and like, let's just stop
the nonsense and get a new contract and figure out
who you want to go and bring in, if you
if you're going to make a move, or what you're
gonna do with the with the money that's that's freed

(17:58):
up in the cap, right.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
I understand the skepticism much more when people say, does
Lebron really want us to believe that he had no
input on this coaching search and was never and never
discunt her coaching job with a guy he does the
podcast with that more than you know, uh, you know,

(18:20):
more than suggesting, oh, no, you know, teams want Bronnie
because they think they're getting Lebron. No. I just you know,
I just don't see it that way.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Stug got lib show here on Fox Sports Radio. What
am I missing about this Caruso Caruso trade? I feel
like they, you know, the Thunder once again fleece the bulls,
and the bulls are just trying to blow things up.
I mean like Josh Kiddy's a talented guy but can't shoot,
whereas Caruso is kind of the perfect consonant backup guard

(18:53):
that the Thunder seemed to need.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
I'm completely with you for the price tag that the
had on Caruso as the trade deadline, the offers, they
turned down the tick call they wanted at the time
to just trade him for Giddy. I don't think anybody

(19:15):
outside of Chicago understands this. The thunder have more picks
than anyone who couldn't get the worst first rounder they
have attached to this trade. You couldn't get two future
seconds attached to this trade. And the stats making the
rounds today that Giddy shot something like nineteen percent this

(19:39):
season from three when a defender was within six feet. Like,
I don't you know, it's way too soon to write
him off these young but you know they're talking about
all star potential. I mean, he has made you work
to do on his game to get back just to
where he was. And look, take the advanced statistics out

(20:02):
of it. I saw it with my own eyes in
the Dallas series. I mean, the mass plates the court
and just to you know, the Bowls are super high
on him. And I think another thing you can question
is what is the fit there. You know, by all accounts,

(20:23):
they want to bring back to Margaro's and Kobe White
had a fantastic season, So does Diddy fit seamlessly with
those guys? I think that's a fair question too. So
obviously they haven't had Lonzo Ball on the floor a
long time. I guess that means they need a point guard.
But you are certainly not alone in raising this question.

(20:45):
It's astonishing to me that a player is coveted as Caruso,
who was born to play for the Thunder, and let's
not forget he started his pro career playing in their
geniue system. I mean, what if they're gonna look there
by no means the finished product, But you know what
it's like to play lead ard for a team. Do

(21:06):
you want to go up against a team that has
Caruso and Dort and Wallace. I mean, They're not going
to be fun to play against next season.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I've been close to being fun to play against. Mark
stein who publishes a substack called the Steinlein Plus. It's
part of a podcast called This League Uncut with fellow
insider Chris Haynes. He joins us every week on the
Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Trey Young
did the hour Glass tweet. Everybody's discussing what's it mean.
I've heard Orlando, I've heard San Antonio. Some people want

(21:37):
to say the Lakers. He lives out in LA in
the offseason. What are you hearing as far as where
Trey Young ends up?

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Now, we're still trying to determine. I mean, I sab
the tweet and beta mode gets people excited every time
it emerges. Are the Hawks definitively trading Trey Young? I
don't think we have that answer yet. There's a lot
of mystery about what a Hawk might do. They have
the number one pick. They've been trying to convince people

(22:05):
that they're keeping the number one pick, and I don't
know that they've fully convinced rival teams of that whether
they're trading Trey Young or de Jontay Murray. I have
thought for now that their preference would be moving Pray
because Dejontay Murray is on such a more favorable contract,

(22:25):
and you know, they actually got to look at the
end of the season of what it was like to
play with only Dejonte and no Tray because Trey had
the hand injury. But at this point, I would say,
I don't think there's a clear indication about it going

(22:46):
to be moved. But look, it's it's fascinating because you
are is it at the top of a lot of
draft boards, but he has not worked out for Atlanta.
He has you know, I don't think we see that
too often that a player who could go number one
is not visiting with the team that has number one picks.

(23:09):
So there's this great expectation around the league at this
point that Star is going to end up going number
two to Washington and the Hawks, if they keep number one,
are are choosing between Bretha sat and Clinging at the
top spot, and so Fos really want to make it.
Are they going to trade to pick down to take
some pressure off themselves? A zillion questions in Atlanta right now,

(23:32):
Trey Young's future is only one of them.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Why did the Pistons move off Manty Williams despite that
sixty five million dollars buyout?

Speaker 6 (23:40):
The timing of it is, I mean, the why you
can understand why after the season they had, but you
would understand it a lot better if this happened a
month ago. To do this a week before the draft,
the Pets have so many other things to look at,
Robster wise, They've got a top five pick, you know,

(24:01):
these are the things they should be focused on. So
to see this decision made now that's really what was baffling.
And look, as late as last week, the signals were
kind of suggesting that, okay, Monty Williams is going to
be okay because they made they were very clear about
agent Langdon is the new president of basketball operations, and

(24:23):
he's going to evaluate things. They're not just a rubber
stamp that Moni stays, even with five years and more
than sixty million left on the contract. But the signals
were piling up that, you know what, they are going
to bring many back. Fred Vinson, who was on Moni's
staff in New Orleans. The Pistons hired him away from

(24:45):
the Pelicans, and this got a lot less attention, but
I wrote about it earlier this week. They also hired
Moni's strength coach from Phoenix, who had been with Mani
for a few years there in the Desert, took a
one year detour to college, and the Pistons hired him
as well to lead their performance staff. But you see
these hires and you're thinking, Okay, Money's gonna he's going

(25:07):
to stay there at least going to bring him back
to start next season. But by all accounts, Todd Lows
as the owner, he decided this week. No, I'm going
to eat the money. And look, I guess you have
to give him the credit on that point of it,
that he's willing to eat a contract that has more
than sixty million left on it. I don't know that
we've ever seen that in the NBA. But it's really

(25:30):
the time. It's just now in late June. The Calves
are nearing the end of their search. So the only
open job in the league is going to be Detroit.
But you know, we're the draft is here, Summer League
is almost here. I mean it's late in the game.
So that's what I think has people most confused.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Stein
joining us. The steinline is the sub stack. You got
to read that. And of course this League Uncut is
the podcast he and Chris ain't He joined us every
week here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Radio.
So the MAVs get to the finals, obviously, Lucas banged up.
I'm sure there's another discussion about Luca and his weight.

(26:10):
But what else, what is what do they do to
take the next step, Because let's just be honest, this
was a surprise how they finished, and they got to
be careful of thinking that's where they are as a team,
that they're really the second best team in the NBA.
How do you think they Nico Harrison moves forward well.

Speaker 6 (26:28):
Nico Harrison at a press conference today in Dallas, and
he described finding a way to re sign Derek Jones junior.
He called it Priority one A and one B. So
that's obviously at the top of their list. But I
think if you really study in Nico Harrison's few years here,
he has been very aggressive. He's made major moves at

(26:49):
every trade deadline. So I think they will explore and
see what's out there. If there is a roster upgrade
that they can make via trade, I think they will
at least look into it. But I think something else
they're counting on hugely is that Lively takes another big step.
I mean, Lively was so far ahead this season of

(27:11):
what they were planning on. I mean, if we rewind
to last July one, after the draft, all the talk
in Dallas was that Olivier Maxens Prosper was the more
NBA ready of the Mavericks two first round draft picks.
That was the thought that Prosper would be the guy
in the rotation, not Lively, and Lively became indispensable very quickly.

(27:33):
Opening night, I was in San Antonio. We were all
there to see Wembley. We Wembley. We were all there
to see Wenby. The best seven foot rookie on Opening
night in that game was Lively. Obviously, I'm not suggesting
he's on par with Webbin Yama, but Lively became a
very good NBA player right away. And I think they're

(27:55):
hoping that he just continues to progress and can take
on me even larger role next season. But I think
you're what you're getting at is right. You know, they
you know, just bringing back the same team, even if
they do find a way financially to create the flexibility
to keep Derek Jones junior, that doesn't just fix everything.
And in this West, I mean, look that the Thunder

(28:17):
just raised the stakes yesterday by getting Caruso. The Thunder
are going to be better, The Nuggets are going to
be back. We'll see what the Clippers look like. The
Kings are keeping Malik Monk. I mean, I can go on,
is Memphis is going to bounce back? San Antonio will
surely be better. I mean, we could just go through the
whole West, and it's only going to get tougher.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Mark Stein he buss that substack called the Steinline You
Gotta Read. Plus he co hosts the podcast This League
Uncut with fellow insider Chris Haynes Steiny. You are the best, man,
Have a great weekend. We'll talk next week.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Sounds good man.

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day from Well what if I told you? Can I can?
I tell people where I am? I think I can.
I want to tell then exact location. But we're broadcast
live from the tyret dot com studio. Is tyret dot
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(29:24):
dot com is the way tire buying should be. Okay,
So people have asked all the time, like how are
you going to be able to do both jobs? And
I don't know if you guys know about the recruiting
calendar in basketball, but this weekend is an open period.
It started today on a Friday, but players have to
play with their high schools. I actually love this. Right,

(29:45):
there's an event in Arizona. Not at that event called
Section seven. Those are high school teams from Arizona and
from New Mexico, and from Nevada and from California, all
playing at is that still University of Phoenix Stadium, right
where the Arizona Cardinals play. They had the national championship
game this year in basketball as well. So what they

(30:07):
do is they on the floor there, they lay out
like ten courts and all the high school teams, the
high high level high school teams play againstch other. So
I'm at a high school in Chicago, Illinois, and the
way our way we can broadcast is you basically need
an ethernetline. And so in working ahead or this week,

(30:28):
I said I'd like to go to this event because
a coach in Green Bay and Chicago's a really important region.
I have some friends in the au world, I have
some friends in the high school world. And there's there's
two main events at these high schools, and these high
schools are gigantic, so I don't know I did. If

(30:48):
you guys heard me tell you where I am byer,
did you hear me say where I'm.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I'm like a shop, classroom or something?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah? Did they? Apparently they still have auto shop? Right,
they got like the tire lits.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I thought it was just like a wood shop, you know,
where you make a lamb or do stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
No, I'll send you guys a picture like I'm in
like the classroom and it looks out over the shop
and they have four bay doors and there's a f
one fifty in there, and yeah, apparently learned how to
fix a pickup truck, which is pretty awesome. Yeah, I
don't know. I used to love now metal shop in
wood shop. I like metal shop more than wood shop.
I don't know about you guys.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Do they even have those anymore?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I was asking that about auto shop. Apparently they do.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
They absolutely better. I mean, yeah, they think they did
away with them in California. The auto shop that I
think the budget was too.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
You talk about you talk about regrets that you have
like when you were younger. I wish i'd known this.
I wish I would have known that I didn't take
any of those courses like our school, you know, you
build a house like in senior year, like if you've
made it through, then they actually go and they sell
the house. It's pretty pretty cool. I did none of that,
and I wish I did all of that.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
That totally one d and learn how to do your
taxes in high school. That would have been awesome.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Well, I mean, I think you should learn that in college,
but I guess.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Well, yeah, yeahlutely. And like learn how to fix like
a really simple like lawnmower engine, you know, or like
those simple engines that would be nice just get like
an understanding of how it works instead taking it into
home depot or minards or something farm and fleet and
then paying a hundred bucks or someone just to change
a gas get or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
So it's interesting, Doug that you you started the hour
with what you're going to be doing this weekend, because
I was. I was thinking about doing something that would
just be kind of waid back and fun for the listeners.
Always thinking about the listeners that I wake up thinking
about them and go to sleep, And I'm thinking, maybe
we could do because I love a literation so much,
we could do something called Frosty Friday, so I had

(32:53):
veto put together something like this.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
I got some beers. They strike them us. It's that
time of the week to crack open a cool beverage.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's frosty Friday.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And I was thinking maybe we could just kind of
talk about the weekend, what we're looking forward to, maybe
on the sports calendar or personally, and just kind of
laid buck stuff. So it sounds like you're going to
be spending a lot of time watching some high school hoops.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, I am, I I have some. There's some other
things that I'm I'm I'm doing as well. But go ahead,
if you guys want to share, like like share, that'd
be great. Let's let's start with you, Dan Byer, like you,
I know you have to work on Sunday. You are
working on a Sunday.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yes noon eastern nine Pacific carry Roads and myself on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Okay, is that all you're looking forward to?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I am looking forward to that. I think what I've
got on my plate this weekend TV viewing wise, sports wise,
maybe a little off of off of the mark, but
the Women's PGA Championship is at Sahali in the Pacific
Northwest on the Seattle area, a tree lined course that

(34:09):
to me is just visually striking and imposing on TV.
It was the home to the nineteen ninety eight PGA
Championship won by VJ. Singh, his first major that he won.
But it is it just it is so unique with
the size of the trees that we only see in
a few parts of the of the country, and they've

(34:30):
carved out a golf course, narrow fairways. Sports wise, that
is probably what I'm looking forward to the most is
to watch that this weekend golf.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
By the way, Dan, what are you drinking right now?
What did you just crack open right now? That's a
nice That's a nice mountain dew he loves looks refreshing.
It really is refreshing.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
You can still see some of the dew on the
can from the refrigeration.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
It really looks good golf. Yes, I'm going to be
I'm traveling to Vegas on tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
This is why we're doing this on the podcast right
about how much money you can just spend in Vegas
without even thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, exactly. And it's one of those things where and
Doug brought up. I think Doug actually resolved it, like
he has a theory that's hard.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
To hold on. But before you get to the theory,
state the problem, and then I'll state the theory and
then let them discuss whether that the theory has validity.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It's a weird thing that the second you step into town,
into Vegas, like money for whatever reason, means a lot
less to you than it ever does. Like just for example,
we went there for the Super Bowl, right, and every
day on the way after the show, on the way
back to my hotel room, I'd get a bottle of
water and like a sandwich from just the little market downstairs,

(35:48):
and it was thirty dollars and I didn't even think
twice about it. And like money just evaporates in that
city when you're not even gambling, Like everything is so
like overly expensive, but for whatever reason, like it's something
in the air or something, you just don't worry about it.
And what's your theory about?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
So my theory is that for as long as I
can remember going to Vegas, people who lose money in
Vegas and they lose somewhere, you know, short of one
thousand dollars, they'll go entertainment money. Right, how'd you do?
Did you win? You lose, like, wow, yeah broke even
like you lost eight hundred bucks like us entertainment val

(36:27):
You're like, you know, so it's like you make an
excuse to yourself that the losing money is actually just
the entertainment of Vegas. Like you came in knowing you
were going to lose money, and you're you're fine with it,
and so you use that you like you're mentally you
make that switch anyway that this was money that you
didn't expect it to go home with, So it's okay

(36:48):
that you're overspending on it.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I think that's exactly what. That's exactly it, because you overbudget,
you waste it and whatever you spent it on, whether
it be craps or a turkey sandwich. But the reason
I'm going to Vegas this week and I'm real excited.
It's one of those proud dad moments. My son, who
I taught to play poker, taught him from scratch to

(37:11):
play poker. When he was eight years old. He won
his poker league in Orange County and the winner of
that poker league gets a free buy in to a
World Series of Poker event. He's got fifteen hundred bucks
to spend On Sunday, he will enter a World Series
of Poker event and play No More Hold Him And

(37:31):
I'm going to be there cheering him on like a
proud father and it's going to be amazing. So and
by the way, I'm I'm drinking an Anchor steam bottle
of Anchor steam beer as I think about my weekend here.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's delicious.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Are you going to be able to take pictures like
our cameras or is there like is that prohibited because
of the steaks? Impossible broadcast?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Or I think that the only pictures are not supposed
to take are like when cards are live at the table.
But as far as like the periphery of tables, you know,
taking them on the side and taking pictures, I'll take
plenty of those. So it's gonna be amazing and wishless walk.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Uh okay, So so my weekend actually, I think, Daniel,
you'll like this this weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
But drinking.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Probably a shandy. This is definitely shandy weather. Yeah, probably
a summer shandy. I mean you also make your own shandy,
but yeah, I'll probably do it lighty and it just
feels right when you're in the Midwest, because the Midwest
is so much hotter and more humid than obviously it
is where you guys are. I know it's hot where
you live dan Byer, and it's obviously gonna be hot

(38:42):
in Vegas for you, but the humidity really zaptious. So
you got to get a shandy anyway. Yeah, hoops all
day to all night tonight. Then I'll head back up
to the Bay. Then we'll go to Appleton. There's a
big event tomorrow and into Sunday and then Sunday afternoon.
Uh my, my, my realder RB and I and Scott

(39:02):
Perry who owns uh a lot. I think it's a
lot they do there. They sell high, high quality meats
to restaurants. Uh, there's we have a big golf match
so at at the country club that I took the
picture of at No Naida. So there's a money golf match.
And I've not played a lot of golf, but I

(39:23):
did play the other day, so I do have I
don't have the excuse of well I haven't played ones.
So I did play, and we'll see if I can
I can hack that thing around and not do what
Jason's going to do, which is just lose lots of
money in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
That sounds like a good time, Doug, sounds like you
got a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I do.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
A lot going on, pretty good, Sam, thank you?

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Thank you simply doesn't have a rim shot for his
own jokes. I just want to be cheap in his
own humor.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
No, it was a cheap that's a cheap one.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Oh okay, what do you doing this weekend? Sam? First
of all, what are you drinking? While you explained? All right,
let's see.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
Uh, I'll probably be having I'm an IPA guy, but
I'm trying to avoid gluten, so I'm looking for a
gluten free ipa, which there are plenty of those, you know.
And I'm also working, though, so I gotta be up
at like four forty five each day, so I'm not
going too crazy. But tonight we got obviously the Stanley Cup,
and we have also the Fever. At Dream is the

(40:19):
start of a long road trip for the fever. So
I'll be on tonight and I'm working this weekend. I'll
get to see people like Steve Hartman, Rich Hornberger, Dan
Byer on Sunday, my buddy Jonas Knox tomorrow, and then
on Sunday we got fever at Sky We got Angel
Reese and Caitlin Clark squaring off again. This is the
big game one o'clock Pacific four Eastern time on ESPN,

(40:40):
So we got a lot of to look forward to.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
So nobody's doing anything. I mean, Jason seems like he's
having the most fun this weekend. Yes, absolutely, but he's
not actually playing in the World Series of Poker tournament.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
His son is, exact.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
That's gotta be way way harder. Watching your kid do
something as opposed to do it yourself is so much
more difficult.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
It is, And there's a part of that as inevitably
he's going to be eliminated, and like that heartbreak and
some it sucks to watch that. Yeah, if he isn't,
that's a good problem to have. By the way, it's
a three day tournament. If he isn't eliminated and he
plays for a million bucks, I'm probably going to miss
work a couple more days of work next week because.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Your retirement could be riding on his winnings.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
There you go, that would be smart planning for Vegas. Okay,
so here's just a random question. How much does it
cost to get into the tournament?

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Fifteen hundred bucks and they'll probably upwards of I don't know,
three thousand players or something, a ridiculous amount of players
to get through. These are long days of poker. Yeah,
to ten pm every day.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Have I told you guys the first time I really
enjoyed beer. It's a real story. So when I was
a junior going to be a senior at Oklahoma State,
I stayed for a summer session. Oh oh, and I
did I didn't know. I did demo. I did demo

(42:13):
for a guy in town. It's like ten dollars an hour,
and I mean it was a fun job. Like you
had to wear boots and jeans and like coveralls. And
keep in mind, it's like one hundred and ten degrees
every day in Oklahoma, and if you're doing demo, that
means the air's not on right. But you're just in
there kicking the crap out of you know, cabinets and whatever,
and there's dust everywhere, and you're wearing a mask and

(42:35):
you're wearing goggles and it was a lot of fun,
and you know, you're just flop sweat and I'll never
forget the first first day Monday I got done. I'd
never worked that hard in my life ever, and I
walk outside. I'm sitting on the front stoop, and the
guys that had been working with us, they went down
the street to the Get and Gallop and they came
back with a case of beer, and I was like, yeah,

(42:56):
I want to just and then you drink a beer,
a cold beer when it's hot, human you've been working
all day. You're like, Okay, I get it. I do
understand this. This because you know high school or even
at Notre Dame, when you're drinking we do forties at
four on a Friday, you know of old English. I
mean it's not or Saint Id's. I mean it is not.

(43:17):
That is not the Champagne of beers. It does not
taste the same when you've been doing real, real man's
work for a couple hours in the heat of Oklahoma.
Like it goes down, it hits what's the kid saying?
It hits different? It hits different.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Oh yeah, no, I think you did tell this recently,
and it's like, I think the topic was when does
beer taste best and after a long work day or
even like when you've been skiing or hiking, a beer
taste back.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Most people say shower beer is the best beer.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, I've never done that.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well, I mean, listen, you want to start your weekend.
I mean, this is this is what you can do.
You get to Vegas. Are you driving or flying to Vegas?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I'm driving?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, So you get done driving to Vegas and then
he's he's so he's going tonight, So it starts tonight.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
No, no, no, We're going to arrive tomorrow when he
enters Sunday morning.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And it's three days, so it goes Monday and Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
If he stays around, I mean, the likelihood is that
he gets eliminated on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
You ever noticed that when you go to Vegas people
always ask where you stayed? Like why do you actually care?
And then you have to figure out, like what am
I really going to say? Here? I stayed, I stayed.
Are you going to judge me based upon where I stayed?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Pretty much? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, And we judge everything about you based upon where
you stayed where you stay. Frosty Friday our first installment
of Frosty Friday
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