June 26, 2024 • 45 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos, in for Doug Gottlieb, react to a wild coaching story in college baseball involving Texas and Texas A&M. The crew look back on NBA Draft memories in this week's edition of The Midway. Plus, Monse believes Team USA Women's Basketball should be following the Women's Soccer Team's lead with their decision to not roster Alex Morgan.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Uh don't get Schlasnagels on this Wednesday, right, don't do it?
Don't do it? We got a midway coming up, the
difference between US soccer and US basketball. Monty's got something
to say about that. She also got something to say
about college baseball. I do as well, and tonight it's
(00:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Again, zacher Ah. Yes, you do not have to worry
about saying Brownie James tonight. Just focus me.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
If we do hear that name tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I still don't think he is the biggest headline in
this NBA draft. You know who I think is Zachary?
Zacharya is a sche.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's just gonna be his answer for everything for the
last two hours.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yes, what did you have for breakfast?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No? I did not, I had zach All right, let's
get into it. Maybe the all times scumbag move? Is
that what we're talking about, and it happened in college baseball.
This is this is one where I don't think everybody
can agree on anything. This may be the one thing
that everybody agrees on. But then you have the University
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of Texas Longhorn fan base that maybe sees nothing wrong
with what has transpired over the last four forty eight hours, Monsei,
But college baseball, he's gotten everyone's eye on loyalty, the truth,
and so much more.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You hit it right on the money. You're right. The
Longhorns are like, what, it's business, this is how it works.
It's sports.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Everyone else is like, no, that was a douche she
move done by the coach.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Like from beginning to end, all of it, I can't
even believe how quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It all really went bad. It went terrible in a
matter of what twenty four hours if.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Not, yes, and it was. It went bad because of
what happened on Monday night. And for those that that
may not know exactly what we're talking about, the University
of Texas today hired Jim Schlosnagel is their new head
coach of their men's baseball program, their baseball program in Austin.
He comes over from Texas A and M. We're just
forty eight hours ago they were prepping for a Game
three in the College World Series in Omaha against Tennessee,
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playing for a national championship. But it's what Schlasnagel said
after the loss to Tennessee that grabbed a lot of
headlines and that was even magnified more with his decision
to leave the school today. If you need a refresher,
that's what we're here for. This was Jim's Jim schlost
Mangel on Monday when he was the head coach at
Texas A and M.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I think it's pretty selfish of you to ask me
that question, to be honest with you, but I left
my family to be the coach at Texas A and M.
I took the job at Texas A and m to
never take another job again, and that hasn't changed in
my mind. That's unfair to talk about something like that.
That'd be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to
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sign in the draft. But I understand you got to
ask the question. But I gave up a big part
of my life to come take this job, and I've
poured every ounce of my soul in this job, and
I've given this job every single ounce I can possibly
give it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To write that, you know, it's funny, I just I
want to quick say something about that, because yesterday this
could have been brought up on our show. But I
almost feel like it was the attack on the attack
on the reporter. And sometimes in the media efic, we're
more narrow minded. We look at our own world. So
while I can relate to maybe what the reporter is feeling,
I don't know if anybody else could really relate to that.
But there just seemed to be shots that were seemed
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to be there were there were blatant shots taken at
the question of the reporter. When if you actually took
out those shots, shelos Nagel's answer actually probably would have
sufficed for the question that was asked, but I just
felt he was out of line in terms of the
way that he treated the reporter who asked the question.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
One thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And when I first heard it, I didn't know the
details right, And at this point he hadn't left, he
had just answered the question, and I was with you.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was like, you know, he just lost. He's probably
in like a bad.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Mood and he didn't mean to come off that means,
so I didn't even really think twice about it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But man, why did you have to lie so hard?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Why'd you have to cap on top of cap on
top of cap? He like tripled down and everything he said,
I took this job, I left my family. I never
want to go anywhere else. Why did you say so much?
What did you answer like that? Because obviously this did
it happened all in a matter of twenty four hours,
so we can all only assume that this was something
on the mind of yours and everybody around you that
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you had spoken to for more than twenty four hours.
But like, why did you have to lie so hard
in that moment? I feel like you easily could have
dismissed the question where we maybe would feel a little
bit differently of the decisions that you made and how
you chose to go about this.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
There was more cap. If there was more cap, there
would have been a lids, right, that's my line. If
there was more cap, you could have opened the lids.
And that's what Jim Schlosnagel could have done with everything
that he said in those comments.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Literally, we needed the big you know, those big hats.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That he thought it exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, that's the type of cap that guy was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
On top of it. I just could not believe it.
Why did you have to answer like that? I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
There are certain routes that you, I think that you
have to take in that situation, and the route that
he took in criticizing the reporter was not the route
that you should have taken. No comment would have opened
it up to more speculation about what was actually going on.
I'm not focused, but his comment of giving his his
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dedication to Aggie Land and Texas A and M at
the time sounds like a commitment to Texas A and M.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It sounds like it. No, that's what he said. Yes, yeah,
we're not misconstruing what he's.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, what we are because he knew all along that
he wasn't it was a farewell letter. That's what that
was the problem with it is that it wasn't a
this is my commitment to you. This is my dear
John goodbye letter to you. And that is what he
was saying, and that's laying the groundwork of it. And
this isn't you know, this isn't the necessarily the first time.
Nick Cope, our news anchor who's the voice of UCLA Baseball.
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So Nick is familiar with the collegiate baseball world. Schlos
Nagles made his way around the Lone Star State previously
as well.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yes, Rick, so he was at TCU for a little while,
and that's part of the connection with this whole thing.
Chris del Conte, the current ad at Texas, He's been
there a couple of years. He was at TCU for
a while. So del Conti and Schlasnagel go back away.
And so that's why when David Pierce, who was in
this position for Texas and Texas' season ended weeks ago.
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So that's why this all blew up. On Monday, Pearson
Texas part weighs mysteriously hours before the final game of
the College World Series Schlasnagel and del Conti's connection. That's
why that question even comes in the post game because
of all that history.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Nothing had happened aside from the history for that question.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
To pop up.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think just rumors started, Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
As soon as Texas the Texas job came open, his
name was immediately connected.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
There's also there's also the scenario of it's a postgame
press conference after they just lost a national championship game.
And I understand how it may sound insensitive at the
time of asking that question, but to Nick's timeline of
the rumors that were out there, it's also the availability
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of the coach to ask a question. He's not going
to be available the next day. He's not going to
be so that is out there. So it is that time,
as unfortunate of timing as it is, that is the
time to ask the question. But there is also this
is nothing new. In fact, we touched on this a
little bit yesterday with when Isaac was at the news
desk and Isaac brought up the Roy Williams comments that
(08:24):
were made after they lost the National Championship game in
two thousand and three to Syracuse when he was the
head coach at Kansas because the North Carolina job opened up.
This was that exchange from Roy Williams speaking with Bonnie
Bernstein that quite honestly, is a part of TV history
because whenever you mentioned Roy Williams, you think of the
greatness at Carolina, the greatness at Kansas, and then you
also think of this interview.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Very understandably, you didn't want to address this issue during
the week, but many people out there with the game
over want to know what your level of interest is
in the North Carolina job, coach.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Bonnie, I could give a flip about what those people want.
As a journalist, you have to ask that question. I
understand that, But as a human being, that's all those
people that want that answer to know right now, they're
not very sensitive.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If they offer you the job, though, would you be
willing to take him.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
I haven't thought about that for one second. I haven't
thought about that for one second. Then the guy in
your ear that told you you have to ask that question.
As a journalist, that's fine, but as a human being,
that's not very nice because it's not very sensitive. And
I got to think that in tough times that people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Should be more sensitive. I could get about North Carolina
right now.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
I've got thirteen kids in that locker room that I love, Coach,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That volcano was starting the bubble. You could just you
could see it. You could see it building out. But
the way Roy Williams handled it in the first part
of the question was how it should have been handled.
That's why schlos Agel didn't need those comments to the reporter.
Another part about this is, listen, Roy Williams was an
assistant at North Carolina. He was an assistant under Dean Smith.
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That connection had always been there. They had just lost
the national championship game. Obviously you're hurt, but it's Kansas
to North Carolina, two blue bloods. They aren't diehard rivals
like Texas A and M and Texas are. So I'm
not saying Kansas was okay with it at the time.
They were obviously hurt. Bill Soelth coming there and continuing
the winning tradition and winning national championships made things a
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lot better for Kansas and moving on from Roy Williams.
But Roy Williams would go back and even go back
to Lawrence at the time, so the exchange was not
as volatile as This is when you have two rivals
within the state and one is considered the I don't
even want to say big brother. It's almost like mega
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corporation of Texas of what they are, and here Texas
A and M with their loyal fan base and traditions
and everything that comes with it being the second fiddle
to Texas. Now you have your baseball coach leaving for
that school. That's why this is also cranked up about ten,
ten to twelve different notches.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I mean, it's super messy, and I really just I'm like,
I like what you said where it's like I think
we are all on the same page and we really
all agree that this really sucks. And then it just
poses question of where is loyalty going when it comes
to sports. I feel like I've brought this up to
you before, Bill Belichick, you know, I was like, I
feel like the Patriots have to be loyal to build.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Because of what he's what he's done.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But loyalty, tradition, like you just mentioned, all of that
is changing and it's changing so quickly, and a big
part is obviously money, nil transfer portal, all of that.
But I just feel like tradition, loyalty rivalries.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I know this one.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You you you believe it's now heightened, and yeah, you're right,
this particular one, but the traditions of rivalries, it's like
dying before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Because guys are moving everywhere, girls are moving everywhere, and
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Thought for a while it was just gonna be more players.
I know he's not the first coach to do this,
and we you know, you mentioned Roy Williams. You can
even mention Nick Saban right LSU to Alabama. We can
bring that one up. But this one hurts.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
This one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm not associated with any of these two teams, and
I feel for the Aggies.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I feel for them for how it all went down.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But the bigger picture, to me, again, I can't believe
this is happening so quickly before our eyes, not just
with players but coaches as well.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think the day that Saban was hired at Alabama,
true story, was the day that LSU was playing in
the Sugar Bowl, if we can confirm this, because I
remember walking to the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans and
having LSU fans channing Saban sucks when he had been
in Miami with the Dolphins for two years. But then
went to Alabama. So to the point of the rivalries
(12:30):
that you talk about is absolutely true. I would say this.
I think that the premise is correct in terms of
and Doug has talked about this. Doug has talked about
just the player, it's himself or herself, of not being
able to go back to your alma mater because you
have three different schools thinking that you've played for. I
do think in college there is still the brand of
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the overall brand of the school that no matter who
is wearing the A and M or Texas uniform, they're
still going to hate each other. Like whoever wears Ohio
State and Michigan, They're still gonna hate each other because
that fan base hates that other fan base. It's just
a matter of who is you know, who is wearing
the uniform. And the other part of this is, honestly,
(13:12):
if you're a coach, it doesn't matter. It just matters
who signs your checks. Yeah, like we think that we
think that maybe there are situations like Roy Williams wanting
to go back to North Carolina and there are dream
jobs everywhere. Doug has talked about. Doug's the head coach
at Green Bay even said it in his opening press
conference to be introduced as the head coach of the
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Phoenix of his love of Oklahoma State, you know, and like,
so that is there, that is out there. You have
these ties. However, there's also the fact of you can
be fired as a coach and then you have to
go find a new school, and then you got to
jump in new school and there are people who coach
for eight or ten different schools. So the loyalty of
your school is not as much to these people who
are moving to jobs. And I think that's difficult for
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us to understand as fans because we look at A
and M is the brand, Texas is the brand, and
they look at it as like who signs my checks
and what number is on that check?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Okay, So even with that, like if I'm a player,
why would why would you want to go play for
Schnuggle whatever his.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Name is last Nagas.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Never gonna I'm not I don't want to say it right.
I'm not going to say it right on purpose. He
doesn't deserve it. He keeps capping, he doesn't deserve it.
Why would you want to go play for somebody like that?
Doesn't he leave a bad taste?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
In your mouth if you are a college baseball player.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I'm trying to think of the best way to put
this in terms of all right, let's just say. Let's
just say your best friend started a sports radio network, right,
and she's like, Mancy, I want you to come over
here and work for us, and we're going to pay
him more money. You're gonna go, who's your best name
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of friend? I don't sure, Natalie Natalie's sports radio. This
thing is going to take off, and they want to
bring Manzi over. And for as much as you love
it here, you've had a relationship with her for twenty years,
you know sure. So that's what Schlosnagel is saying, is like,
I know the ad and the players are saying, look,
I know coach, and if I stay at Texas A
and M and a new coach comes in, maybe I'm
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not one of his guys and he's going to want
to bring in his guys. So I'm following the coaches.
And that's why the transfer portals opens up. And it's
not that these players are going to leave school. They
very well, they may very well go to Texas, But
when you're recruiting in college, it is about the relationships
with the people. It's the one thing that you do have.
It's so important. It's the bread and butter of everything.
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And if you don't have that relationship with the new coach,
maybe you don't want to be there, And so you'd
follow the coach to his new spot if he will
have you. And that's why I think where the loyalty
lies in this instance. It's different than maybe the real world,
but it's individual with the coach or the coach that
recruited you that may be an assistant on the new staff,
so you go to that place. Those are all things
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that play into it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Listen, you may make a good point here, Dan, I
get the point battle the way he handled it was
it was not the right way.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To go about it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I don't care that you have to do this so
quickly because of the transfer bortal and you gotta secure
your coaching staff as soon as possible. It's just it
was handled without class. And I get that. I understand
what you're saying about, like the relationship he hasn't you know?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I get that. You're right. If I was here, Natalie.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Had a new radio show and she was like, can
you come, I'd be like, I'm gonna come, but I'm
gonna do it the right way, and I'm gonna finish
things out here properly, and I'm not gonna lie to
the media and say this Xyz.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You would say, Natalie Sports Radio, can we do this
like in five days?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, we let this pre exactly exactly, And that's the
fault of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yes, Texas wants to get this done. And by the way,
Texas is gonna show no empathy at all fashion This
is the trump card of them sticking at the Texas
A and M. Because you know what happens next week,
Texas joins the league that Texas A and M was in.
That Texas A and M left the previous league because
they wanted to get away from Texas to join, and
now Texas comes into that league. So it goes back
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to this rivalry and Wyatt's so hate hated. My buddy
Chris Gordy, who hosts and runs our affiliate in Houston,
Sports Talk seven ninety tweeted out ticket prices for the
A and M Texas football game that we're averaging at
about twenty two hundred dollars a seat right now because
of this rivalry and how this adds up and this, Yeah,
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this is this is what this is all about. And
that's so like, if you're Texas, yeah, why have breathing room,
Let's bring in our guy, Let's pay him the money,
and let's take in them. And if it's if it's
against our most bitter, fiercest rival, even better, let's do
it quicker. They probably wish they could have done it
in the postgame show on Monday, you know, right afterwards.
They could have their own Texas banner in Omaha and
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introduced him at that time.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I mean, he could have just done that and then
maybe we would be like, at least he was upfront
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
There is no right way to do it, the worst
way to do it. Yeah, that's that's schlos Nagels. That's
that's schlost thing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna read
of that and we'll let him have the last word
because he tried to cover up from the reporter and
explain his words. We'll see if this sells you at all.
This was Jim Schlosnagel today now is the head coach
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at Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Number one?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
What changed?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then number two? What would you say to those
Texas A and M, people that supported you.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
That feels like that you intentionally misled them.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well, I didn't intentionally mislead them, And that's a very
fair question for you to ask, because that is what
I said in that moment. That's exactly how I felt.
I dove in with every single ounce of me to
help A and M have the very best baseball program
it can possibly have, and that investment lasted through the
last pitch of the National Championship Game. It never wavered,
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not one second. I don't care what anybody says. All
I can say is I have a career too. I
have a personal life as well that there I have goals,
and I just simply felt like no negative at A
and M, just the positives of the alignment and my
relationship with Chris that I knew. There wasn't anybody at
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Texas A and M that I couldn't trust. I just
know that I can trust Chris.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I just know that.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
And as hard as that decision was, I could not
walk away from it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You act away real quick, my.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
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There have been some decisions in sports that have made
headlines over the last couple of weeks that have been
some head scratchers. We're not talking about Schloss Niggling, but
there have been other decisions. Moncey Belanos has a bone
to pick with one that ends up being spotlighted and
highlighted because of another decision that was made that's going
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to come up in about twenty minutes or so. Plus
the Miami Dolphins apparently low balling to a tongue of
Iiloa and his contract demands or wants. Maybe they're not
demands just yet, but where that situation sits in Miami
is something that we will dive into plus Kevin Durant
could be a Houston Rocket. Monsy wants to know, if
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you're a Durant fan, what are you doing with all
those jerseys? But it's Wednesday, it's the middle of the show.
The crew is here. It's time for the midword. It's
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time the midword. Yes, yeah, I don't even know what
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Speaker 4 (22:07):
What he was doing?
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NBA Draft is tonight. We start with NBA Draft memories
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NBA Draft, anything NBA draft related. And Moncey Blagos, we
are going to start with you. If I say NBA draft,
what pops up in Mancy Blagos.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Is mine, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't pay attention to a lot of NBA drafts, except,
of course, for two thousand and nine, when the Clippers
were bound to select. Everyone knew there was no question
about it that we were going to be selecting the
one and only Blake Griffin. You know, I feel like
that was a really big moment for the Clippers. The
Clippers have never.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Really been on the map before Blake Griffin. The excitement
was there.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes, he got hurt his first you know year in
the NBA and went on to win the Rookie of
the Year the following year, but it was really like
a time when you felt like the Clippers were going
to be a place that other players were going to
want to go play, Like you really, I felt so
excited about.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It for the first time. You know, Elton Brand had.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Left us, like I don't know, five years before that
or something. Very sad moment in Clipper history when Elton
Brand left.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But when Blake Griffin came to the Clippers, that was it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
That was the beginning of a really big change for
the Clippers organization.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I was very exciting.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And if I remember correctly, because Blake missed his rookie
season because of injury, right, there was a time where
you're like, oh no, not us again, and it almost
free dates yeah still yeah, was the number one overall
pick in nineteen eighty eight. Knee injury career was never
the same. Olawa Candy was a bust when he took
him number one overall, So maybe all of a sudden
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blake is an art. You're like, here we go again.
But then, as it turns out, when he came back healthy, magnificent,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Probably how he felt in the moment, But you know
now we're so removed from it that it's a positive thing.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Only can I can I ask you this, and I
expect your one hundred percent pure honesty. Do you regret
it all that you didn't take James Hardner Steph Curry?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I didn't think so either. I think that Curry is
it too? Curry a while to become Steph Curry. Yeah,
and there was a point where he was even brought
up in trade conversations in Golden State before he became
Steph Curry. But it's funny because I think that those
two have better NBA careers.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But in terms of the time and what they were,
I can understand why you wouldn't. That's actually kind of
why I asked the question.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, no, I would not take back any of those
Lob City years, not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What about DeMar DeRozan. No like kid.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, I mean I watched James Harden play in high school. Sure,
you know I went to gar he was at Artesia.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
But no, no, Blake Blake. I love Blake And I
was that the school you hit seven threes four?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, no, it was it was so it was that school. Yeah,
Manzi's sharp shooting. Oh you know, all right, Ryan Berschinger,
when you think of NBA draft, what do you think of?
Speaker 10 (25:32):
You know, I used to be really into the NBA draft,
and it would it would be kind of the the
basis for my my best and worst hot takes growing up.
This is where I would formulate really my opinions and predictions.
It was it was through NBA drafts. And so I
felt really proud because in two thousand and seven was
(25:53):
the year the Greg Odin went one. And the entire
time that that happened, I said, this is this is awful.
Durant is going to be a star. Why would they
pass up on Durant to go Odin one? Katie's going
to be the much better player?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Really?
Speaker 10 (26:07):
That was that was That's a take that I'm very
proud of.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Let's go on, hi, by the way, Yeah, just just
to interject, Yes, Olden was so dominant in the little
bit that he played, and especially in the National Championship game,
a game that they lost against Florida, but still was
like when you look at that Florida team that went
back to backs and saw how dominant he was and
they beat Georgetown on the fire like those final four
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games in that tournament run because he only played in
about half the games Ohio State had that year because
he had a wrist injury early on. But it was like,
They're like, for as great as Durant was, I still
think outside of Birsch, who absolutely knew Durant was going
to be the guy, I still think Odin was the
no brainer. And I can't fault.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
For I understand they it was the The rationale made
total sense. At the time I was, I was just
incredibly high on Turnure. I thought it was going to
be great. Next year, darre Rose goes number one, and
the entire time I'm saying, no, no, this is this
is Michael Beasley's what are you thinking passing up on
(27:11):
Michael Beasley? This guy is going to be an absolute stud.
So yeah, that's I can't I can't pat myself on
the back for one take without bringing up my various.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Bad days as well. It's welcome here. Doug always brings
up to Steph Curry. Yeah, you know, as we were
talking about in his breakdown of that draft, so bad
draft decisions. I have a bad draft decision. When I
first moved out to Southern California, it was two thousand
and five and the Bucks had the number one overall pick,
and the decision then was likely between Andrew Bogant and
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Marvin Williams of North Carolina. Even though Darren Williams and
Chris Paul were available in the draft, it was really
either Williams or Bogut. And I went to a Clippers
draft party at Staples Center where they were, you know,
celebrating the draft, and I forgot even new the Clippers
drafted that night. But you were all allowed to go
on the court and shoot a free throw, and I
shot an air ball, okay, because it's a death perception, man,
(28:08):
exactly what it was. It looked like it was three
feet away from me. And if I would have felt
like I did my normal free throw shooting where I
shot while Manzi's hitting seven three is a game. I
think I was a good fifty seven percent free throw
shooter from the line back in my high school days. Yeah,
fifty seven percent. I did not want to brick it,
and it seems so close, and it was so embarrassing
(28:31):
that I shot an air ball and the eight year
old that was behind me in line probably at least
hit the river backboard. So you want to talk about
draft nightmares, there's one for me, Nick Kope.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I was gonna say, does Monsey even remember who the
Clippers drafted in two thousand and five?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I'm Yaroslav.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Coral V of course, No, Dull.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's right. There were a chance of coral V other weren't.
We were just shooting airballs.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I've got I've got some audio for you, guys, because
when you say, I think of one man.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We've had to explain to.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Our international audience that the boo is an American sign
of respect.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Let me say he gets cheers.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
David Stern. David Stern, the guy he did not want
to mess with, that is for sure. Now his voice
was synonymous of Gi just of the announcements. Yeah, there
was this cadence, there was this presentation with it.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
So deliberate, Yah, wasn't it earlier that that was from
twenty thirteen. I believe it was his last draft that
he did, but wasn't that earlier too. Remember he was
begging the crowd on it, like you have more booze,
like I miss David Stern.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'll tell you what. We're gonna play a piece of audio.
We'll get Iowa Sam's thoughts as well. This is another
draft memory of mine. This goes way back. This goes
way back to nin true story. This was our This
was our voicemail message for our home phone for a while.
For those of you that don't know, my idol growing
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up was Jimmy Jackson who played basketball at Ohio State
and he was drafted in the nineteen ninety two draft.
And this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
The Dallas Mavericks selected Jimmy Jackson from Ohio State University.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So if you called my house at any point in
the early nineteen nineties after nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That was the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
That was the answering machine. But what you had to do,
because of technology, you had to take your tape recorder,
your boombox, put it up to the TV speaker and
then plus play a record on the tape and then
I had to take that tape and play it into
the voicemail the voicemail machine that we had and then
(30:53):
hit record there. So it was like two generations of it.
But you know, thanks to my mom, she let me
have Jim Jackson's NBA Draft announcement be our voicemail for
overver years from Ohio State University. It was about that
quality as well. That's probably how it sounded, and then
you would hear and that's where you would leave your message.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
That sounds vintage, and it sounds nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it does. I do think in the older years
Stern was a little more deliberate in his announcement of
announcing picks as he got more settled in, but still
there was that same somewhat cadence of David Stern. It's
a very good pick. I was Sam, did you have it?
Do you have any NBA draft memories for training camp,
for any trading camp memories as well? That was me talking.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
I don't remember much except for we'll go back, and
we'll go back nine years, nine whole years ago. I
got to go with the way back song there, so
Frank Kaminski forward for Wisconsin, one of my favorite players
to watch. Took them all the way to the National
Championship game. Didn't they beat an undefeated Kentucky team that year? Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They did.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
That was a really legendary Wisconsin team. For the draft,
he showed up wearing a custom uh tailored Frank the
Tank suit with little cartoon tanks embroidered inside the blaser
and I think it was like von Mauer Yonkers or
Nordstrum or actually not even Nords from that's too fancy.
(32:25):
Maybe like Dillard's and they like custom Taylor the suit
for him, and I just remember that being a big deal.
Is he still in the league, by the way, Frank Cominsk,
I think he's riding the pine somewhere, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I do not know. Do you know that they married
Ashley Brewer? He did so, But I don't know by
the way that Sam Decker, by the way, may come
back into the league.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Sam Decker was a part of that three Wisconsin team,
really fun to watch a while.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And sorry, no no, that's good little add on there.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
And also that was this that was also the Christaps
Porzingis draft, and you know how they were how he
was received by the New York Knicks fans and listen,
when he's a healthy player, he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Problem has been his health. Christaps perzingis so frank.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
The tank, by the way, played in Serbia last year.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, you're a league if either one of you can get.
David Stern announcing the Chris Webber Penny Hardaway trade, I
thought we maybe even had it in the system. Doug
Lesty have on air production meetings. It is for Nick
to play the David Stern and David Stern knowing the moment,
knowing the booze and making the joke. He also knew
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drama the way that he drew it out. And I
actually I may have actually put it in the system
guys the last couple of months ago. But it was
because this was when the NBA Draft I think was
at its peak, because college basketball was where it was,
where it was just as it felt just as big
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as the NBA. And if it wasn't because the NBA
was so huge, it was still just a really really
big deal and the two biggest names were Chris Webber
and Penny Hardaway. New Orlando Magic had got the number
one pick for the second straight year. You're like, Howard
Shack and Chris Webber going to play together? And this
is how it sounded them. This is David Stern bringing
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the moment to its absolute crescendo.
Speaker 11 (34:18):
Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to report a trade that's agreed.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
He's smiling, Yeah, it's great, smiling again, getting on the details.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, pausing Jess Orlando has.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Traded the draft rights to Chris Webber to Golden State.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
In exchange for the draft rights to Anthony Harroway and.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Three future first round draft picks, which will be exercised
at the earliest in the years nineteen ninety six, nineteen
ninety eight and two thousand, two.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thousands, way far away. Who cares about that. That's that's forever.
We may not even get there, We might not even
get Why did you just give him an next dit?
It was just a master class on drama. Ah. And
I'll tell you what a lot of us. To Sam's
point about the Frank Kaminski suit, we were brought back
memories with the commercial with Carmelo, Anthony, Kendrick Perkins, and TJ.
(35:38):
Ford and during with their Draft day suits that they
wore two thousand and three.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Yes, yes, I call that the big pun of Fat
Joe era of suits, large suits for large men.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Great times. The fashion at the NBA drafts didn't even
know what Zachary Resache is going to be wearing tonight.
There the fashion at NBA drafts something that can be
you can tell.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What time period we were in by what they're wearing. Yes,
you really can't. Like nowadays we see chains.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
You know, like heavy chains, all glitz and glamour.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I feel like there was a time when we didn't
see that.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Fewer ties I think these days, Yeah, fewer blazer, nice shirt,
maybe buttoned all the way to the top with like
a little some kind of little.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Jewel or something. There's always a jewel.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There's not a lot of ties or some ties. But
you know what you're going to get tonight. Beige hats.
Manzi hates these draft hats.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I just why beige across the board for all the team?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I think it's the deal they SIGND with Dockers. I
think that's why they just yeah, they end up matching
the pants. Well they are. They are whack all whack.
I played the I played the the Jim Jackson sound
on my voicemail. We just heard the Penny Hardaway Chris
Webber trade. Those draft hats have tried to come back recently,
(36:56):
like the the the design of it, but they didn't
make them low cut. Everything now, I swear, for the
past twenty years has got like you've got, like the
hat is just enormous, yes, And I just can we
just have slouch caps, you know, or something that is
just like a low dead ho file That's all I mean, yeah,
that's all like, can we have that? Please?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
The stiffest, tallest hats.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm like, my.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Head's not in there, have all this extra space between
the hats my head.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, it's a balancing act. I just can't we just
get like a nice fitting slouch hat to wear because
that the caps back of the day fit I thought
very well. And for the past twenty or so years,
it just hasn't hasn't worked out, all right, Draft Dave Memory,
we'll remember those things. Who knows, maybe tonight we'll remember
where Zachary Rezone went and talk about it on the Midway.
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Ten years from now, we you can send us your
favorite draft memories. Hit her up at Manzi Blanas. You
can find me at Dan byer on Fox. Thanks for
listening to The Doug gotlap Show podcast.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
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Monty hates the Draft caps fear not.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't understand why they're beije. I don't understand why
we have to put so much on them. I feel
like this is the perfect opportunity for teams to bring
back their og logos, logos.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And then just put on the side like NBA Draft
twenty twenty four. That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm gonna put this up on X on Twitter if
you want to take a look at the NBA Draft caps,
the ones that Monty is not happy about. No NBA
Draft caps yay or nay?
Speaker 12 (38:49):
Nay.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, that's pretty good. That's that's pretty good. By the way,
I am so confused sometimes how works, So if the
link doesn't show up, not my problem. Okay, I did
most of the work, just click on it. It should work.
It's not going to take you anywhere that you don't
want to go. And it just popped up and it
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just has new era because they provide the.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Oh yes, that's yeah, you have to click on it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So Nick nick Cope's gonna give us an updating a
little bit. And there's a story he's been reporting on
on Olympic soccer. And I know your heart is broken, Manci,
but in a way you maybe feel that a lesson
could be learned, maybe not from the US women's soccer team,
but another US women's team.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, So the US soccer team just released their list
for the Olympic team and Alex Morgan is not in it.
I love Alex Morgan. I wish I was wearing her
jersey right now. But you know, she is definitely not
in her prime. You could say she's lost a little
bit of her steps. So it is sad that Alex
Morgan is not on the team. She's already tweeted something
(39:57):
that she's sad about it, but she's gonna be supporting
the team of Sleep. And the reason for this is
because the team wanted to go a little bit younger.
In fact, this is the youngest that the US Olympic
team has been since two thousand and eight, and the
fourth youngest in history for the US soccer team. They're
going in with an average of twenty six point eight.
That is the average age. Last time in twenty twenty,
(40:18):
the average age for the soccer team was thirty point eight.
So they just wanted to go a little younger, right,
understandably so, like again, sad that Alex Morgan is not
on the team, but I get it.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
The women's Envy or the women's basketball Olympic team literally
could have done this, Diana Tarassi.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Everyone loves you.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You are amazing, but you did not need to be
on this roster. They should have gone towards a younger generation.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
And oh, Kaitlyn Clark could have been on the roster.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Soccer doesn't even have like a start, like a Kaitlyn
Clark rising star that everybody's talking about. And yet they
are doing the decision for the future. We are bringing
in the younger talent to get a pep in our
steps so that we can compete.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
And basketball could have done that, but they chose to just.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Put the team together based on who deserved it, based
on experience in the past, and here's a perfect example
of a team that's like, hey, you are awesome, your
history shows it, your accolades show it.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
But we're gonna go younger. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
You mean, Alex Morgan didn't criticize the younger players that
were actually put on the team.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Alex Morgan did not say any of that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Now, I think there is a group that would say
Alex Morgan and Caitlyn Clark are maybe the same, that
they're looked at in a way of where they're loved
by so many, but their game doesn't necessarily match on
being with the team. So I know you're looking at
me kind of weird. But Alex Morgan, we all know
Alex morkan same, just like we all know Caitlin Clark's name, right,
(41:51):
So I think that there could be an argument made
that way. I would also say, and correct me if
I'm wrong. I feel that the Women's World Cup is
bigger than the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
It is.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I would agree, you're going to like take a you know,
soft launch, let's take a run. Let's not that they're
using the Olympics as a training ground, but you want
to make sure that your World Cup run when it
comes up in a couple of years, is your team
is set.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
At that point just as strong as it's been throughout Plaska.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, and I would think that the women's maybe back
like this is the crescendo for women's basketball. Like there,
I know that I believe that there are women's basketball
international competitions, none that rise to the level of the
World Cup. So that you have the Olympics. So the
Olympic Golden women's basketball means more than an Olympic Golden
women's soccer. Of course, so maybe it's maybe it's not
(42:47):
as much apples to apples.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, No, but it just they went the point here
is they chose to go younger at this point and
let go of somebody who is a fan favorite. Sure,
and here we have two fan favorites. Yeah, but you
we still could have gone the younger route. We could
have brought in the new talent, not just even Caitlyn Cluck.
(43:09):
You could have added more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Like, I also think that, honestly, that nobody is feeling
bad for Alex Morgan.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
No, and I'm just sad about it.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
But yeah, yeah, you're sad about it. But it's not like, oh,
she needed this for her resume so that she's getting
jobbed or not at all, not at all. She's not
getting slost nageled by anything.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
But you know, she's just been part of it for
so long and a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And of an era is a part of it as well,
have an era, but to usher in like there's a
sacrifice that needs to be made to usher in a
new era.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'll tell you what the way that Angel Reese has
played for the last week. Yeah, you want to talk
about like like playing like in terms of of all right,
if you were to go with a youth movement and
I know, obviously a team needs to be set in
time so they can have their their their camp and
playing in the Olympic Games. But if you're going to
use the youth movement argument, it's only been used for
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Kitlyn Clark. I've been very critical of Angel Reese, and
I feel that sometimes Angel Reese is all about Angel Reese.
But you know, in this instance as well, like if
you were going to do a youth movement sort of thing,
here could be another opportunity to old Geez Angel Reaes
just came off of a twenty five and sixteen effort,
you know, so to that point, if you're actually going
(44:27):
to stick to your if you had a plan to
go young, it isn't just about Caitlin Clark and watching
the you know, have the eyeballs watching the.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Totally agree because now we're a little bit removed from
that story that Kaitlyn Clark didn't make the roster. But
you're right, Angel Reese has like really been delivering for
the Chicago Sky.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
How great if they were both on that team.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, it would so many people would tune in, especially
because you know, we're creating this rivalry between them, and
imagine if they would have been on the roster together.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I feel my response was similar to Caitlin Clark's when
she was asked if she was excited to play with
Angel Reese on the All Star team, like yeah, be
a lot of fun. Yeah, Like yeah, yeah, I'm curious
on how it would it would work.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Uh don't get Schlasnagels on this Wednesday, right, don't do it?
Don't do it? We got a midway coming up, the
difference between US soccer and US basketball. Monty's got something
to say about that. She also got something to say
about college baseball. I do as well, and tonight it's
(00:41):
NBA Draft night, so you know, darn well, I'm gonna
take every opportunity to say, Zacharie, I mean, that's so good.
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Speaker 2 (01:02):
Again, zacher Ah. Yes, you do not have to worry
about saying Brownie James tonight. Just focus me.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
If we do hear that name tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I still don't think he is the biggest headline in
this NBA draft. You know who I think is Zachary?
Zacharya is a sche.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's just gonna be his answer for everything for the
last two hours.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yes, what did you have for breakfast?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No? I did not, I had zach All right, let's
get into it. Maybe the all times scumbag move? Is
that what we're talking about, and it happened in college baseball.
This is this is one where I don't think everybody
can agree on anything. This may be the one thing
that everybody agrees on. But then you have the University
(01:53):
of Texas Longhorn fan base that maybe sees nothing wrong
with what has transpired over the last four forty eight hours, Monsei,
But college baseball, he's gotten everyone's eye on loyalty, the truth,
and so much more.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
You hit it right on the money. You're right. The
Longhorns are like, what, it's business, this is how it works.
It's sports.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Everyone else is like, no, that was a douche she
move done by the coach.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Like from beginning to end, all of it, I can't
even believe how quickly.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It all really went bad. It went terrible in a
matter of what twenty four hours if.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Not, yes, and it was. It went bad because of
what happened on Monday night. And for those that that
may not know exactly what we're talking about, the University
of Texas today hired Jim Schlosnagel is their new head
coach of their men's baseball program, their baseball program in Austin.
He comes over from Texas A and M. We're just
forty eight hours ago they were prepping for a Game
three in the College World Series in Omaha against Tennessee,
(02:56):
playing for a national championship. But it's what Schlasnagel said
after the loss to Tennessee that grabbed a lot of
headlines and that was even magnified more with his decision
to leave the school today. If you need a refresher,
that's what we're here for. This was Jim's Jim schlost
Mangel on Monday when he was the head coach at
Texas A and M.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I think it's pretty selfish of you to ask me
that question, to be honest with you, but I left
my family to be the coach at Texas A and M.
I took the job at Texas A and m to
never take another job again, and that hasn't changed in
my mind. That's unfair to talk about something like that.
That'd be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to
(03:35):
sign in the draft. But I understand you got to
ask the question. But I gave up a big part
of my life to come take this job, and I've
poured every ounce of my soul in this job, and
I've given this job every single ounce I can possibly
give it.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
To write that, you know, it's funny, I just I
want to quick say something about that, because yesterday this
could have been brought up on our show. But I
almost feel like it was the attack on the attack
on the reporter. And sometimes in the media efic, we're
more narrow minded. We look at our own world. So
while I can relate to maybe what the reporter is feeling,
I don't know if anybody else could really relate to that.
But there just seemed to be shots that were seemed
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to be there were there were blatant shots taken at
the question of the reporter. When if you actually took
out those shots, shelos Nagel's answer actually probably would have
sufficed for the question that was asked, but I just
felt he was out of line in terms of the
way that he treated the reporter who asked the question.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
One thousand percent.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And when I first heard it, I didn't know the
details right, And at this point he hadn't left, he
had just answered the question, and I was with you.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I was like, you know, he just lost. He's probably
in like a bad.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Mood and he didn't mean to come off that means,
so I didn't even really think twice about it.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
But man, why did you have to lie so hard?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Why'd you have to cap on top of cap on
top of cap? He like tripled down and everything he said,
I took this job, I left my family. I never
want to go anywhere else. Why did you say so much?
What did you answer like that? Because obviously this did
it happened all in a matter of twenty four hours,
so we can all only assume that this was something
on the mind of yours and everybody around you that
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you had spoken to for more than twenty four hours.
But like, why did you have to lie so hard
in that moment? I feel like you easily could have
dismissed the question where we maybe would feel a little
bit differently of the decisions that you made and how
you chose to go about this.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
There was more cap. If there was more cap, there
would have been a lids, right, that's my line. If
there was more cap, you could have opened the lids.
And that's what Jim Schlosnagel could have done with everything
that he said in those comments.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Literally, we needed the big you know, those big hats.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
That he thought it exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes, that's the type of cap that guy was doing.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
On top of it. I just could not believe it.
Why did you have to answer like that? I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
There are certain routes that you, I think that you
have to take in that situation, and the route that
he took in criticizing the reporter was not the route
that you should have taken. No comment would have opened
it up to more speculation about what was actually going on.
I'm not focused, but his comment of giving his his
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dedication to Aggie Land and Texas A and M at
the time sounds like a commitment to Texas A and M.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
It sounds like it. No, that's what he said. Yes, yeah,
we're not misconstruing what he's.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
No, what we are because he knew all along that
he wasn't it was a farewell letter. That's what that
was the problem with it is that it wasn't a
this is my commitment to you. This is my dear
John goodbye letter to you. And that is what he
was saying, and that's laying the groundwork of it. And
this isn't you know, this isn't the necessarily the first time.
Nick Cope, our news anchor who's the voice of UCLA Baseball.
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So Nick is familiar with the collegiate baseball world. Schlos
Nagles made his way around the Lone Star State previously
as well.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yes, Rick, so he was at TCU for a little while,
and that's part of the connection with this whole thing.
Chris del Conte, the current ad at Texas, He's been
there a couple of years. He was at TCU for
a while. So del Conti and Schlasnagel go back away.
And so that's why when David Pierce, who was in
this position for Texas and Texas' season ended weeks ago.
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So that's why this all blew up. On Monday, Pearson
Texas part weighs mysteriously hours before the final game of
the College World Series Schlasnagel and del Conti's connection. That's
why that question even comes in the post game because
of all that history.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Nothing had happened aside from the history for that question.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
To pop up.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think just rumors started, Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
As soon as Texas the Texas job came open, his
name was immediately connected.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
There's also there's also the scenario of it's a postgame
press conference after they just lost a national championship game.
And I understand how it may sound insensitive at the
time of asking that question, but to Nick's timeline of
the rumors that were out there, it's also the availability
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of the coach to ask a question. He's not going
to be available the next day. He's not going to
be so that is out there. So it is that time,
as unfortunate of timing as it is, that is the
time to ask the question. But there is also this
is nothing new. In fact, we touched on this a
little bit yesterday with when Isaac was at the news
desk and Isaac brought up the Roy Williams comments that
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were made after they lost the National Championship game in
two thousand and three to Syracuse when he was the
head coach at Kansas because the North Carolina job opened up.
This was that exchange from Roy Williams speaking with Bonnie
Bernstein that quite honestly, is a part of TV history
because whenever you mentioned Roy Williams, you think of the
greatness at Carolina, the greatness at Kansas, and then you
also think of this interview.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
Very understandably, you didn't want to address this issue during
the week, but many people out there with the game
over want to know what your level of interest is
in the North Carolina job, coach.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
Bonnie, I could give a flip about what those people want.
As a journalist, you have to ask that question. I
understand that, But as a human being, that's all those
people that want that answer to know right now, they're
not very sensitive.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
If they offer you the job, though, would you be
willing to take him.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
I haven't thought about that for one second. I haven't
thought about that for one second. Then the guy in
your ear that told you you have to ask that question.
As a journalist, that's fine, but as a human being,
that's not very nice because it's not very sensitive. And
I got to think that in tough times that people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Should be more sensitive. I could get about North Carolina
right now.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
I've got thirteen kids in that locker room that I love, Coach,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
That volcano was starting the bubble. You could just you
could see it. You could see it building out. But
the way Roy Williams handled it in the first part
of the question was how it should have been handled.
That's why schlos Agel didn't need those comments to the reporter.
Another part about this is, listen, Roy Williams was an
assistant at North Carolina. He was an assistant under Dean Smith.
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That connection had always been there. They had just lost
the national championship game. Obviously you're hurt, but it's Kansas
to North Carolina, two blue bloods. They aren't diehard rivals
like Texas A and M and Texas are. So I'm
not saying Kansas was okay with it at the time.
They were obviously hurt. Bill Soelth coming there and continuing
the winning tradition and winning national championships made things a
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lot better for Kansas and moving on from Roy Williams.
But Roy Williams would go back and even go back
to Lawrence at the time, so the exchange was not
as volatile as This is when you have two rivals
within the state and one is considered the I don't
even want to say big brother. It's almost like mega
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corporation of Texas of what they are, and here Texas
A and M with their loyal fan base and traditions
and everything that comes with it being the second fiddle
to Texas. Now you have your baseball coach leaving for
that school. That's why this is also cranked up about ten,
ten to twelve different notches.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I mean, it's super messy, and I really just I'm like,
I like what you said where it's like I think
we are all on the same page and we really
all agree that this really sucks. And then it just
poses question of where is loyalty going when it comes
to sports. I feel like I've brought this up to
you before, Bill Belichick, you know, I was like, I
feel like the Patriots have to be loyal to build.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Because of what he's what he's done.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But loyalty, tradition, like you just mentioned, all of that
is changing and it's changing so quickly, and a big
part is obviously money, nil transfer portal, all of that.
But I just feel like tradition, loyalty rivalries.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I know this one.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You you you believe it's now heightened, and yeah, you're right,
this particular one, but the traditions of rivalries, it's like
dying before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Because guys are moving everywhere, girls are moving everywhere, and
you know, I.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Thought for a while it was just gonna be more players.
I know he's not the first coach to do this,
and we you know, you mentioned Roy Williams. You can
even mention Nick Saban right LSU to Alabama. We can
bring that one up. But this one hurts.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
This one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm not associated with any of these two teams, and
I feel for the Aggies.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I feel for them for how it all went down.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But the bigger picture, to me, again, I can't believe
this is happening so quickly before our eyes, not just
with players but coaches as well.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I think the day that Saban was hired at Alabama,
true story, was the day that LSU was playing in
the Sugar Bowl, if we can confirm this, because I
remember walking to the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans and
having LSU fans channing Saban sucks when he had been
in Miami with the Dolphins for two years. But then
went to Alabama. So to the point of the rivalries
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that you talk about is absolutely true. I would say this.
I think that the premise is correct in terms of
and Doug has talked about this. Doug has talked about
just the player, it's himself or herself, of not being
able to go back to your alma mater because you
have three different schools thinking that you've played for. I
do think in college there is still the brand of
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the overall brand of the school that no matter who
is wearing the A and M or Texas uniform, they're
still going to hate each other. Like whoever wears Ohio
State and Michigan, They're still gonna hate each other because
that fan base hates that other fan base. It's just
a matter of who is you know, who is wearing
the uniform. And the other part of this is, honestly,
(13:12):
if you're a coach, it doesn't matter. It just matters
who signs your checks. Yeah, like we think that we
think that maybe there are situations like Roy Williams wanting
to go back to North Carolina and there are dream
jobs everywhere. Doug has talked about. Doug's the head coach
at Green Bay even said it in his opening press
conference to be introduced as the head coach of the
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Phoenix of his love of Oklahoma State, you know, and like,
so that is there, that is out there. You have
these ties. However, there's also the fact of you can
be fired as a coach and then you have to
go find a new school, and then you got to
jump in new school and there are people who coach
for eight or ten different schools. So the loyalty of
your school is not as much to these people who
are moving to jobs. And I think that's difficult for
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us to understand as fans because we look at A
and M is the brand, Texas is the brand, and
they look at it as like who signs my checks
and what number is on that check?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Okay, So even with that, like if I'm a player,
why would why would you want to go play for
Schnuggle whatever his.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Name is last Nagas.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Never gonna I'm not I don't want to say it right.
I'm not going to say it right on purpose. He
doesn't deserve it. He keeps capping, he doesn't deserve it.
Why would you want to go play for somebody like that?
Doesn't he leave a bad taste?
Speaker 4 (14:26):
In your mouth if you are a college baseball player.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I'm trying to think of the best way to put
this in terms of all right, let's just say. Let's
just say your best friend started a sports radio network, right,
and she's like, Mancy, I want you to come over
here and work for us, and we're going to pay
him more money. You're gonna go, who's your best name
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of friend? I don't sure, Natalie Natalie's sports radio. This
thing is going to take off, and they want to
bring Manzi over. And for as much as you love
it here, you've had a relationship with her for twenty years,
you know sure. So that's what Schlosnagel is saying, is like,
I know the ad and the players are saying, look,
I know coach, and if I stay at Texas A
and M and a new coach comes in, maybe I'm
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not one of his guys and he's going to want
to bring in his guys. So I'm following the coaches.
And that's why the transfer portals opens up. And it's
not that these players are going to leave school. They
very well, they may very well go to Texas, But
when you're recruiting in college, it is about the relationships
with the people. It's the one thing that you do have.
It's so important. It's the bread and butter of everything.
(15:36):
And if you don't have that relationship with the new coach,
maybe you don't want to be there, And so you'd
follow the coach to his new spot if he will
have you. And that's why I think where the loyalty
lies in this instance. It's different than maybe the real world,
but it's individual with the coach or the coach that
recruited you that may be an assistant on the new staff,
so you go to that place. Those are all things
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that play into it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Listen, you may make a good point here, Dan, I
get the point battle the way he handled it was
it was not the right way.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To go about it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I don't care that you have to do this so
quickly because of the transfer bortal and you gotta secure
your coaching staff as soon as possible. It's just it
was handled without class. And I get that. I understand
what you're saying about, like the relationship he hasn't you know?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I get that. You're right. If I was here, Natalie.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Had a new radio show and she was like, can
you come, I'd be like, I'm gonna come, but I'm
gonna do it the right way, and I'm gonna finish
things out here properly, and I'm not gonna lie to
the media and say this Xyz.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
You would say, Natalie Sports Radio, can we do this
like in five days?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, we let this pre exactly exactly, And that's the
fault of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yes, Texas wants to get this done. And by the way,
Texas is gonna show no empathy at all fashion This
is the trump card of them sticking at the Texas
A and M. Because you know what happens next week,
Texas joins the league that Texas A and M was in.
That Texas A and M left the previous league because
they wanted to get away from Texas to join, and
now Texas comes into that league. So it goes back
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to this rivalry and Wyatt's so hate hated. My buddy
Chris Gordy, who hosts and runs our affiliate in Houston,
Sports Talk seven ninety tweeted out ticket prices for the
A and M Texas football game that we're averaging at
about twenty two hundred dollars a seat right now because
of this rivalry and how this adds up and this, Yeah,
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this is this is what this is all about. And
that's so like, if you're Texas, yeah, why have breathing room,
Let's bring in our guy, Let's pay him the money,
and let's take in them. And if it's if it's
against our most bitter, fiercest rival, even better, let's do
it quicker. They probably wish they could have done it
in the postgame show on Monday, you know, right afterwards.
They could have their own Texas banner in Omaha and
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introduced him at that time.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I mean, he could have just done that and then
maybe we would be like, at least he was upfront
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
There is no right way to do it, the worst
way to do it. Yeah, that's that's schlos Nagels. That's
that's schlost thing. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna read
of that and we'll let him have the last word
because he tried to cover up from the reporter and
explain his words. We'll see if this sells you at all.
This was Jim Schlosnagel today now is the head coach
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at Texas.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Number one?
Speaker 7 (18:13):
What changed?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
And then number two? What would you say to those
Texas A and M, people that supported you.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
That feels like that you intentionally misled them.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well, I didn't intentionally mislead them, And that's a very
fair question for you to ask, because that is what
I said in that moment. That's exactly how I felt.
I dove in with every single ounce of me to
help A and M have the very best baseball program
it can possibly have, and that investment lasted through the
last pitch of the National Championship Game. It never wavered,
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not one second. I don't care what anybody says. All
I can say is I have a career too. I
have a personal life as well that there I have goals,
and I just simply felt like no negative at A
and M, just the positives of the alignment and my
relationship with Chris that I knew. There wasn't anybody at
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Texas A and M that I couldn't trust. I just
know that I can trust Chris.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I just know that.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
And as hard as that decision was, I could not
walk away from it.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
You act away real quick, my.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
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There have been some decisions in sports that have made
headlines over the last couple of weeks that have been
some head scratchers. We're not talking about Schloss Niggling, but
there have been other decisions. Moncey Belanos has a bone
to pick with one that ends up being spotlighted and
highlighted because of another decision that was made that's going
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to come up in about twenty minutes or so. Plus
the Miami Dolphins apparently low balling to a tongue of
Iiloa and his contract demands or wants. Maybe they're not
demands just yet, but where that situation sits in Miami
is something that we will dive into plus Kevin Durant
could be a Houston Rocket. Monsy wants to know, if
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you're a Durant fan, what are you doing with all
those jerseys? But it's Wednesday, it's the middle of the show.
The crew is here. It's time for the midword. It's
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time the midword. Yes, yeah, I don't even know what
just happened there. If you're my best Danny guy.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
What he was doing?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Thank you for avoiding dead air there. I had to
find the stage of their folks.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
That's all right. Iowa Sam is here, Ryan bursting her,
Nick Cap hanging out with Monzy Blagos, and myself, Dan Beyer.
NBA Draft is tonight. We start with NBA Draft memories
or just thoughts about the NBA draft, takes about the
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NBA Draft, anything NBA draft related. And Moncey Blagos, we
are going to start with you. If I say NBA draft,
what pops up in Mancy Blagos.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Is mine, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I don't pay attention to a lot of NBA drafts, except,
of course, for two thousand and nine, when the Clippers
were bound to select. Everyone knew there was no question
about it that we were going to be selecting the
one and only Blake Griffin. You know, I feel like
that was a really big moment for the Clippers. The
Clippers have never.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Really been on the map before Blake Griffin. The excitement
was there.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes, he got hurt his first you know year in
the NBA and went on to win the Rookie of
the Year the following year, but it was really like
a time when you felt like the Clippers were going
to be a place that other players were going to
want to go play, Like you really, I felt so
excited about.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
It for the first time. You know, Elton Brand had.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Left us, like I don't know, five years before that
or something. Very sad moment in Clipper history when Elton
Brand left.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
But when Blake Griffin came to the Clippers, that was it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
That was the beginning of a really big change for
the Clippers organization.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I was very exciting.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And if I remember correctly, because Blake missed his rookie
season because of injury, right, there was a time where
you're like, oh no, not us again, and it almost
free dates yeah still yeah, was the number one overall
pick in nineteen eighty eight. Knee injury career was never
the same. Olawa Candy was a bust when he took
him number one overall, So maybe all of a sudden
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blake is an art. You're like, here we go again.
But then, as it turns out, when he came back healthy, magnificent,
and that's.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Probably how he felt in the moment, But you know
now we're so removed from it that it's a positive thing.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Only can I can I ask you this, and I
expect your one hundred percent pure honesty. Do you regret
it all that you didn't take James Hardner Steph Curry?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I didn't think so either. I think that Curry is
it too? Curry a while to become Steph Curry. Yeah,
and there was a point where he was even brought
up in trade conversations in Golden State before he became
Steph Curry. But it's funny because I think that those
two have better NBA careers.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Yeah, you could say that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But in terms of the time and what they were,
I can understand why you wouldn't. That's actually kind of
why I asked the question.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, no, I would not take back any of those
Lob City years, not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
What about DeMar DeRozan. No like kid.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, I mean I watched James Harden play in high school. Sure,
you know I went to gar he was at Artesia.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
But no, no, Blake Blake. I love Blake And I
was that the school you hit seven threes four?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, no, it was it was so it was that school. Yeah,
Manzi's sharp shooting. Oh you know, all right, Ryan Berschinger,
when you think of NBA draft, what do you think of?
Speaker 10 (25:32):
You know, I used to be really into the NBA draft,
and it would it would be kind of the the
basis for my my best and worst hot takes growing up.
This is where I would formulate really my opinions and predictions.
It was it was through NBA drafts. And so I
felt really proud because in two thousand and seven was
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the year the Greg Odin went one. And the entire
time that that happened, I said, this is this is awful.
Durant is going to be a star. Why would they
pass up on Durant to go Odin one? Katie's going
to be the much better player?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Really?
Speaker 10 (26:07):
That was that was That's a take that I'm very
proud of.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Let's go on, hi, by the way, Yeah, just just
to interject, Yes, Olden was so dominant in the little
bit that he played, and especially in the National Championship game,
a game that they lost against Florida, but still was
like when you look at that Florida team that went
back to backs and saw how dominant he was and
they beat Georgetown on the fire like those final four
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games in that tournament run because he only played in
about half the games Ohio State had that year because
he had a wrist injury early on. But it was like,
They're like, for as great as Durant was, I still
think outside of Birsch, who absolutely knew Durant was going
to be the guy, I still think Odin was the
no brainer. And I can't fault.
Speaker 10 (26:49):
For I understand they it was the The rationale made
total sense. At the time I was, I was just
incredibly high on Turnure. I thought it was going to
be great. Next year, darre Rose goes number one, and
the entire time I'm saying, no, no, this is this
is Michael Beasley's what are you thinking passing up on
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Michael Beasley? This guy is going to be an absolute stud.
So yeah, that's I can't I can't pat myself on
the back for one take without bringing up my various.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Bad days as well. It's welcome here. Doug always brings
up to Steph Curry. Yeah, you know, as we were
talking about in his breakdown of that draft, so bad
draft decisions. I have a bad draft decision. When I
first moved out to Southern California, it was two thousand
and five and the Bucks had the number one overall pick,
and the decision then was likely between Andrew Bogant and
(27:43):
Marvin Williams of North Carolina. Even though Darren Williams and
Chris Paul were available in the draft, it was really
either Williams or Bogut. And I went to a Clippers
draft party at Staples Center where they were, you know,
celebrating the draft, and I forgot even new the Clippers
drafted that night. But you were all allowed to go
on the court and shoot a free throw, and I
shot an air ball, okay, because it's a death perception, man,
(28:08):
exactly what it was. It looked like it was three
feet away from me. And if I would have felt
like I did my normal free throw shooting where I
shot while Manzi's hitting seven three is a game. I
think I was a good fifty seven percent free throw
shooter from the line back in my high school days. Yeah,
fifty seven percent. I did not want to brick it,
and it seems so close, and it was so embarrassing
(28:31):
that I shot an air ball and the eight year
old that was behind me in line probably at least
hit the river backboard. So you want to talk about
draft nightmares, there's one for me, Nick Kope.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I was gonna say, does Monsey even remember who the
Clippers drafted in two thousand and five?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I'm Yaroslav.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Coral V of course, No, Dull.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
That's right. There were a chance of coral V other weren't.
We were just shooting airballs.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
I've got I've got some audio for you, guys, because
when you say, I think of one man.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
We've had to explain to.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Our international audience that the boo is an American sign
of respect.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
Let me say he gets cheers.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
David Stern. David Stern, the guy he did not want
to mess with, that is for sure. Now his voice
was synonymous of Gi just of the announcements. Yeah, there
was this cadence, there was this presentation with it.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
So deliberate, Yah, wasn't it earlier that that was from
twenty thirteen. I believe it was his last draft that
he did, but wasn't that earlier too. Remember he was
begging the crowd on it, like you have more booze,
like I miss David Stern.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I'll tell you what. We're gonna play a piece of audio.
We'll get Iowa Sam's thoughts as well. This is another
draft memory of mine. This goes way back. This goes
way back to nin true story. This was our This
was our voicemail message for our home phone for a while.
For those of you that don't know, my idol growing
(30:12):
up was Jimmy Jackson who played basketball at Ohio State
and he was drafted in the nineteen ninety two draft.
And this is what it sounded like.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
The Dallas Mavericks selected Jimmy Jackson from Ohio State University.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So if you called my house at any point in
the early nineteen nineties after nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
That was the answer.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
That was the answering machine. But what you had to do,
because of technology, you had to take your tape recorder,
your boombox, put it up to the TV speaker and
then plus play a record on the tape and then
I had to take that tape and play it into
the voicemail the voicemail machine that we had and then
(30:53):
hit record there. So it was like two generations of it.
But you know, thanks to my mom, she let me
have Jim Jackson's NBA Draft announcement be our voicemail for
overver years from Ohio State University. It was about that
quality as well. That's probably how it sounded, and then
you would hear and that's where you would leave your message.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 9 (31:16):
That sounds vintage, and it sounds nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it does. I do think in the older years
Stern was a little more deliberate in his announcement of
announcing picks as he got more settled in, but still
there was that same somewhat cadence of David Stern. It's
a very good pick. I was Sam, did you have it?
Do you have any NBA draft memories for training camp,
for any trading camp memories as well? That was me talking.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
I don't remember much except for we'll go back, and
we'll go back nine years, nine whole years ago. I
got to go with the way back song there, so
Frank Kaminski forward for Wisconsin, one of my favorite players
to watch. Took them all the way to the National
Championship game. Didn't they beat an undefeated Kentucky team that year? Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They did.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
That was a really legendary Wisconsin team. For the draft,
he showed up wearing a custom uh tailored Frank the
Tank suit with little cartoon tanks embroidered inside the blaser
and I think it was like von Mauer Yonkers or
Nordstrum or actually not even Nords from that's too fancy.
(32:25):
Maybe like Dillard's and they like custom Taylor the suit
for him, and I just remember that being a big deal.
Is he still in the league, by the way, Frank Cominsk,
I think he's riding the pine somewhere, isn't he.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I do not know. Do you know that they married
Ashley Brewer? He did so, But I don't know by
the way that Sam Decker, by the way, may come
back into the league.
Speaker 9 (32:48):
Sam Decker was a part of that three Wisconsin team,
really fun to watch a while.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And sorry, no no, that's good little add on there.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
And also that was this that was also the Christaps
Porzingis draft, and you know how they were how he
was received by the New York Knicks fans and listen,
when he's a healthy player, he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Problem has been his health. Christaps perzingis so frank.
Speaker 10 (33:10):
The tank, by the way, played in Serbia last year.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Okay, you're a league if either one of you can get.
David Stern announcing the Chris Webber Penny Hardaway trade, I
thought we maybe even had it in the system. Doug
Lesty have on air production meetings. It is for Nick
to play the David Stern and David Stern knowing the moment,
knowing the booze and making the joke. He also knew
(33:33):
drama the way that he drew it out. And I
actually I may have actually put it in the system
guys the last couple of months ago. But it was
because this was when the NBA Draft I think was
at its peak, because college basketball was where it was,
where it was just as it felt just as big
(33:53):
as the NBA. And if it wasn't because the NBA
was so huge, it was still just a really really
big deal and the two biggest names were Chris Webber
and Penny Hardaway. New Orlando Magic had got the number
one pick for the second straight year. You're like, Howard
Shack and Chris Webber going to play together? And this
is how it sounded them. This is David Stern bringing
(34:16):
the moment to its absolute crescendo.
Speaker 11 (34:18):
Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to report a trade that's agreed.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
He's smiling, Yeah, it's great, smiling again, getting on the details.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, pausing Jess Orlando has.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Traded the draft rights to Chris Webber to Golden State.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
In exchange for the draft rights to Anthony Harroway and.
Speaker 11 (35:00):
Three future first round draft picks, which will be exercised
at the earliest in the years nineteen ninety six, nineteen
ninety eight and two thousand, two.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thousands, way far away. Who cares about that. That's that's forever.
We may not even get there, We might not even
get Why did you just give him an next dit?
It was just a master class on drama. Ah. And
I'll tell you what a lot of us. To Sam's
point about the Frank Kaminski suit, we were brought back
memories with the commercial with Carmelo, Anthony, Kendrick Perkins, and TJ.
(35:38):
Ford and during with their Draft day suits that they
wore two thousand and three.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
Yes, yes, I call that the big pun of Fat
Joe era of suits, large suits for large men.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Great times. The fashion at the NBA drafts didn't even
know what Zachary Resache is going to be wearing tonight.
There the fashion at NBA drafts something that can be
you can tell.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
What time period we were in by what they're wearing. Yes,
you really can't. Like nowadays we see chains.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
You know, like heavy chains, all glitz and glamour.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I feel like there was a time when we didn't
see that.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Fewer ties I think these days, Yeah, fewer blazer, nice shirt,
maybe buttoned all the way to the top with like
a little some kind of little.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Jewel or something. There's always a jewel.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
There's not a lot of ties or some ties. But
you know what you're going to get tonight. Beige hats.
Manzi hates these draft hats.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I just why beige across the board for all the team?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I think it's the deal they SIGND with Dockers. I
think that's why they just yeah, they end up matching
the pants. Well they are. They are whack all whack.
I played the I played the the Jim Jackson sound
on my voicemail. We just heard the Penny Hardaway Chris
Webber trade. Those draft hats have tried to come back recently,
(36:56):
like the the the design of it, but they didn't
make them low cut. Everything now, I swear, for the
past twenty years has got like you've got, like the
hat is just enormous, yes, And I just can we
just have slouch caps, you know, or something that is
just like a low dead ho file That's all I mean, yeah,
that's all like, can we have that? Please?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
The stiffest, tallest hats.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm like, my.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Head's not in there, have all this extra space between
the hats my head.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, it's a balancing act. I just can't we just
get like a nice fitting slouch hat to wear because
that the caps back of the day fit I thought
very well. And for the past twenty or so years,
it just hasn't hasn't worked out, all right, Draft Dave Memory,
we'll remember those things. Who knows, maybe tonight we'll remember
where Zachary Rezone went and talk about it on the Midway.
(37:50):
Ten years from now, we you can send us your
favorite draft memories. Hit her up at Manzi Blanas. You
can find me at Dan byer on Fox. Thanks for
listening to The Doug gotlap Show podcast.
Speaker 12 (38:00):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from three
to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for The Doug Gotlieb Show at
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Speaker 2 (38:13):
Doug gollib Show at Fox Sports Radio. NBA Draft is tonight.
Monty hates the Draft caps fear not.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't understand why they're beije. I don't understand why
we have to put so much on them. I feel
like this is the perfect opportunity for teams to bring
back their og logos, logos.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
And then just put on the side like NBA Draft
twenty twenty four. That's it.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm gonna put this up on X on Twitter if
you want to take a look at the NBA Draft caps,
the ones that Monty is not happy about. No NBA
Draft caps yay or nay?
Speaker 12 (38:49):
Nay.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, that's pretty good. That's that's pretty good. By the way,
I am so confused sometimes how works, So if the
link doesn't show up, not my problem. Okay, I did
most of the work, just click on it. It should work.
It's not going to take you anywhere that you don't
want to go. And it just popped up and it
(39:13):
just has new era because they provide the.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Oh yes, that's yeah, you have to click on it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So Nick nick Cope's gonna give us an updating a
little bit. And there's a story he's been reporting on
on Olympic soccer. And I know your heart is broken, Manci,
but in a way you maybe feel that a lesson
could be learned, maybe not from the US women's soccer team,
but another US women's team.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, So the US soccer team just released their list
for the Olympic team and Alex Morgan is not in it.
I love Alex Morgan. I wish I was wearing her
jersey right now. But you know, she is definitely not
in her prime. You could say she's lost a little
bit of her steps. So it is sad that Alex
Morgan is not on the team. She's already tweeted something
(39:57):
that she's sad about it, but she's gonna be supporting
the team of Sleep. And the reason for this is
because the team wanted to go a little bit younger.
In fact, this is the youngest that the US Olympic
team has been since two thousand and eight, and the
fourth youngest in history for the US soccer team. They're
going in with an average of twenty six point eight.
That is the average age. Last time in twenty twenty,
(40:18):
the average age for the soccer team was thirty point eight.
So they just wanted to go a little younger, right,
understandably so, like again, sad that Alex Morgan is not
on the team, but I get it.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
The women's Envy or the women's basketball Olympic team literally
could have done this, Diana Tarassi.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Everyone loves you.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You are amazing, but you did not need to be
on this roster. They should have gone towards a younger generation.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
And oh, Kaitlyn Clark could have been on the roster.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Soccer doesn't even have like a start, like a Kaitlyn
Clark rising star that everybody's talking about. And yet they
are doing the decision for the future. We are bringing
in the younger talent to get a pep in our
steps so that we can compete.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
And basketball could have done that, but they chose to just.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Put the team together based on who deserved it, based
on experience in the past, and here's a perfect example
of a team that's like, hey, you are awesome, your
history shows it, your accolades show it.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
But we're gonna go younger. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
You mean, Alex Morgan didn't criticize the younger players that
were actually put on the team.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Alex Morgan did not say any of that.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Now, I think there is a group that would say
Alex Morgan and Caitlyn Clark are maybe the same, that
they're looked at in a way of where they're loved
by so many, but their game doesn't necessarily match on
being with the team. So I know you're looking at
me kind of weird. But Alex Morgan, we all know
Alex morkan same, just like we all know Caitlin Clark's name, right,
(41:51):
So I think that there could be an argument made
that way. I would also say, and correct me if
I'm wrong. I feel that the Women's World Cup is
bigger than the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
It is.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I would agree, you're going to like take a you know,
soft launch, let's take a run. Let's not that they're
using the Olympics as a training ground, but you want
to make sure that your World Cup run when it
comes up in a couple of years, is your team
is set.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
At that point just as strong as it's been throughout Plaska.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, and I would think that the women's maybe back
like this is the crescendo for women's basketball. Like there,
I know that I believe that there are women's basketball
international competitions, none that rise to the level of the
World Cup. So that you have the Olympics. So the
Olympic Golden women's basketball means more than an Olympic Golden
women's soccer. Of course, so maybe it's maybe it's not
(42:47):
as much apples to apples.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, No, but it just they went the point here
is they chose to go younger at this point and
let go of somebody who is a fan favorite. Sure,
and here we have two fan favorites. Yeah, but you
we still could have gone the younger route. We could
have brought in the new talent, not just even Caitlyn Cluck.
(43:09):
You could have added more, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Like, I also think that, honestly, that nobody is feeling
bad for Alex Morgan.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
No, and I'm just sad about it.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
But yeah, yeah, you're sad about it. But it's not like, oh,
she needed this for her resume so that she's getting
jobbed or not at all, not at all. She's not
getting slost nageled by anything.
Speaker 4 (43:29):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
But you know, she's just been part of it for
so long and a big part of it.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And of an era is a part of it as well,
have an era, but to usher in like there's a
sacrifice that needs to be made to usher in a
new era.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
I'll tell you what the way that Angel Reese has
played for the last week. Yeah, you want to talk
about like like playing like in terms of of all right,
if you were to go with a youth movement and
I know, obviously a team needs to be set in
time so they can have their their their camp and
playing in the Olympic Games. But if you're going to
use the youth movement argument, it's only been used for
(44:07):
Kitlyn Clark. I've been very critical of Angel Reese, and
I feel that sometimes Angel Reese is all about Angel Reese.
But you know, in this instance as well, like if
you were going to do a youth movement sort of thing,
here could be another opportunity to old Geez Angel Reaes
just came off of a twenty five and sixteen effort,
you know, so to that point, if you're actually going
(44:27):
to stick to your if you had a plan to
go young, it isn't just about Caitlin Clark and watching
the you know, have the eyeballs watching the.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Totally agree because now we're a little bit removed from
that story that Kaitlyn Clark didn't make the roster. But
you're right, Angel Reese has like really been delivering for
the Chicago Sky.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
How great if they were both on that team.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, it would so many people would tune in, especially
because you know, we're creating this rivalry between them, and
imagine if they would have been on the roster together.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I feel my response was similar to Caitlin Clark's when
she was asked if she was excited to play with
Angel Reese on the All Star team, like yeah, be
a lot of fun. Yeah, Like yeah, yeah, I'm curious
on how it would it would work.
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