July 2, 2024 • 46 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos filling in for Doug as they discuss the US National Men's Team's ousting from Copa America.
Dan and Monse welcome soccer Hall of Famer and former US National team member Eric Wynalda to break down what happened with this year's Copa America ousting.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome in on a Tuesday. I know you can't see
the visual right now, but it is not the sun, dude,
there's not the sun. Both Monty and I are wearing orange.
I feel minus is way much more brighter than yours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yours is.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
It's a little bit brighter. I don't know if brighter.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Is the word, but yes, because it's not like a
bright orange.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But you're right, yours is a little bit lighter.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
What's funny is everybody, I'm gonna give you a little
backstory here is that yesterday or two days ago, whenever
I Dan was Ryan a pink shirt. I was like, Dan,
I like your shirt, and he's like, oh, I have
an orange one. I was like, yeah, no, not the orange.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I had already bought. The orange was already purchased. It
was actually in the queue to be worn at some
point this week and I wore today.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yeah, I turned I turned it down so fast, and
then I walked in and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm wearing and made up this story that she went
out to buy this orange shirt and then it's it
was a complete shot at me wearing orange, but so
be it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
No, this is new. I literally took it for man.
I took the tags off today because I also was
like orange.
Speaker 7 (01:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But then you put it on and you're like, your shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
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Speaker 4 (01:46):
The way Tirebine should.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Mance's shirt is the the terra cotta pots that you
would put your plants in. It went, yeah, that is
exactly the color.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Of a basketball.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Like no, no, like you're right about the bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Let's but we're matching, and that's the point, and we
didn't plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We're gonna try to Yeah, we're gonna try to brighten
your day with some great guests. Eric Guinaldo's going to
join us next hour to talk about the US men's
national team and their defeat at the hands of I
try to say as few of consonants as I can
when I sayguay. So I was like, I know you
got to say the G, but I try to even
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skip it. I want all vowels.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Gotcha.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Oh, so you're you're trying to say that's that's what you're.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Trying to say, got it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I know that there's like G in there, yes, but
I just like to skip all over it. US falls
and will not advance to the knockout stage of Copa America.
Simon le bon Is at Wimbledon for those that are wondering,
lead singer of Duran. Duran just able to throw that
in there. He came up on the screen. US loses
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last night. I would love to have this great philosophical
take and maybe Eric Menalda can give us that information.
I'm just I'm just sick of whatever this is. We
are so past the point Manzi of what's popular popularized
soccer like it's very popular. The men's national team has
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a huge audience. If they didn't, it wouldn't be on Fox,
it wouldn't be on FS one. We wouldn't be as invested.
This is a different conversation than it was twenty years ago.
So sitting down and watching a match against Panama like
we did the other night, which by the way, there
was a moment where it looked like the US was cruising.
They had won their first match, they had actually scored
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early against Panama. Then that goal was taken away, then
Tim Waya got a red card, and then it just
seemed to be all absolute downhill from that point since,
and it just feels like more of the same where
I don't know what's happening. I assume that we need
a new head coach. I assume that these players have
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to step up, But it feels like we have been
in neutral since Eric Lenalda. In the nineteen ninety four
American team broke through when the World Cup was in
the United States, and when you look back at their history, Manci,
you see them advance to the knockout stage in Qatar,
cutter however you want to pronounce it. In twenty twenty two,
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they didn't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen. They
advanced to the knockout stage in the previous two World Cups,
but lost right away. It was only in two thousand
and two where they ended up making it to the
quarterfinals of the World Cup, which is final eight. That's
freaking amazing. But then, why for the last twenty two
years are we just still here? Why hasn't there been
like this amazing run of this amazing upset and even
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last night in a match that they weren't expected to win,
they are still in. And then at the the worst,
most in opportunistic time, when the result that you need
miles away ends up happening for that moment, you end
up giving up your own lead, so there's nothing to
even cheer for in a game. I guess I'm just
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fed up because I feel like we've been in the
same place for twenty plus years.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And the reason you're even more fed up is because
the last you know, couple, let's see, the last eight
years or so, we keep hearing that there is a
lot of talent coming out, young talent coming to represent
the men's US, Because we already know the women's soccer
team has been dominating for years, and we've wanted the
men to kind of you know, live up to the expectation,
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and we keep hearing young talent, you know, polistic being
a part of the team now, and then they fall flat.
But it's like the talent seems to be there and
I see it, and then you hear other people talking
about it, So why is it that they keep falling flat?
It's kind of frustrating. It's like I don't think they're
cruising through the motions, but you're right, like, what is
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the point of this if we keep hearing that this
is a talented team that should be able to get
further than we have in twenty years and then they
fall flat on their faces. Now, the game against Panamak
unraveled kind of quickly. Things with Tim Waya that just sucked,
and not every tournament adds a suspension because they feel
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it's egregious, which I think that was another dark cloud
that came over the team when they found that out.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But it's like, why weren't you prepared? Isn't that don't
you feel like they just weren't prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I just feel that in again, because it's not the
background of the US soccer team that I am fully
invested in. I watch them, I sit down and enjoy it.
I may join a match in the first ten minutes,
made join it in the first twenty minutes, but I
will watch it after that. So whether they look prepared
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or unprepared, honestly, some of it is over my head
and what is actually trying to go on. All I
know is is when I watch the Dallas Cowboys play
football and they beat up on the New York Giants,
and they beat up on the Washington Commanders, and when
they play the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they don't win.
And I feel it's the same exact thing with the
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US men's national team. So whether they're prepared or not, Monzi,
I can't answer that. All I know is that at
the end of the matches they usually aren't on top
against a better team or winning a match that maybe
they shouldn't have won. And I believe the stat was
in their last ten matches against top fifteen teams outside
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of Mexico that they are zero five and five, So
they haven't won any of the matches, and we're supposed
to be happy over draws, and that is just it
that to me is frustrating. I would rather have the
roller coaster of the ups and downs and ups and
downs than to go through this ride at thirty five
miles per hour for the past twenty thirty years. So
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I can't even answer your question of did they look prepared?
Do they look not prepared? I always feel that there
are just certain moments in matches where you end up
breaking through. But I do know that when Greg Burhalter
told the team that the Bolivia and Panama match was
tied up at one apiece, that was actually done at
the absolute worst moment in something that you shouldn't do.
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So I can't answer the question about the preparedness, but
just for the fact that they haven't beaten anybody that
is better than them, it drives me absolutely crazy. It's
very Dallas Cowboys ask.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Well, like you said, at least the Dallas Cowboys are
winning some. But in the sense I hear what you're saying,
I just wonder, like, how prepared are you are you
guys actually practicing together?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Are we? Do you have a good leader? No, let's
not even what.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
The coach did to give the score of the other game.
At what point in the game did he tell them
the score?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With the sixty third minutes what was the.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Point of that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I understand, well, we can hope that you were trying
to motivate, but there's no oh away you thought this
is the time to motivate at this point. The only
time you should have given the score to that game
maybe is at halftime, right, Like, that's the only time maybe, I.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Would say, I would say almost if you're in stoppage time, right,
you're depending on what your result is at the time,
knowing that you need to maybe change something. But there
were thirty minutes left in there. There's thirty minutes left
in their man.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Right, that was like a desperation move, and a desperation
move in a moment where you didn't need to be
in a desperation move. And if you're a player like
and you are told this score by your coach.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know how I would handle that.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I I don't know if you would stop playing as
hard or you would start playing harder.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
It just made no sense. It just made no sense.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And the whole game the refs are a separate conversation,
but the referee the refs in the game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Very early on, it seemed like they were just gonna
let them do whatever they wanted.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Both ways, even though I know that the US team
felt that maybe the calls were not going in their favor,
maybe the.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
US wasn't the better team, They weren't the better team
coming in and they lost. And so that is also
the recipe for refs really screwed us that we could
have won. It's a great excuse maker, but I don't
know if it had anything to do with last night
and the point of telling your team that you that
the other match was tied up at one to one.
I feel that Peralta thought that it was a motivating tactic.
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You would hope so, right, But that's the problem is
you shouldn't need to motivate your team sixty five minutes
into what feels like a must win match that should
have been done in minute one. That like, your team
should have been motivated at that point. If you are
changing strategy for how things are being played, that's fine.
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But at that point, when it was one point one,
you're still zero zero, where a loss kills you. It's
not like Bolivia was running away against Panama. All Bolivia
did was pull even and then we find out Panama
scores again, scores again, ends up winning three to one.
Later on. But it is such a knee jerk reaction.
That is, it's awful as leadership because you're trying to motivate.
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It's also just awful as a tactician and how you're
going to set up the next thirty minutes of your match,
because then it's giving a message to your team we
are going to be playing a different way. And I
don't think that you can do that with thirty minutes
left in the match when Bolivia is not expected to
beat Panama. At that point, I think you still have
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to go and try to win the match, and especially
when you're the underdog in this match against Uruguas, so
maybe their only thinking is we'll advance if we draw,
and then they draw in that other match. It's the
only way to do it. That still, to tell your
team at that point is way too early. It's like
Tiger Wood's looking at the leader board with fourteen holes
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left to play, maybe even ten holes left to play.
At some point you kind of have to have an idea,
but when you have an entire third of the match
to go, it just seems like awful on leadership, awful
on being a tactician.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And that's what I mean about It didn't seem like
they were prepared. It didn't seem like they had a
good game plan going into that game.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And you shouldn't have been happy with the draw, like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
You said everything you just said, Dan, you just hit
it right on the nose, Like it seemed like they
were okay with the draw.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
How are you okay with that? You needed to win
that game.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And also if you would have won, you still didn't
have tim waya the next game. You needed to play
your best to take that momentum into the next game.
And it just seems like there was no order, there
was no leadership.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I like that you use that word.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
To me, was like, it just didn't seem like they
were prepared for the game. And who does that land on?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh? That lands on yeah, Greg Burholter, right head coach
Alexi Lalas had a lot to say after the match
on Fox Sports One. Here's what the analyst and former
World Cup star had to say about this US men's
national team.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
I think what we have learned over the these cycles
is that this team is not able to do anything
better than is done in the past.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
That that hurts. That hurts to say.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
If this is as good as it gets it's it's
not good enough, and there's plenty of excuses, but they
don't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
You can talk about opportunities, Well, we got players that
are playing all over the world talk about playing in Europe. Well,
the entire team that you saw out there plays in Europe.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So it's not MLS's fault.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
You can talk about, you know, the pathways and the
resources that they have. No generation has been given more
and yet this generation hasn't lived up to that bargain.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Up to it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And he's right, it's the same old story. We watched
an NFL season where on Christmas Day the Raiders went
into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs, something that I
didn't necessarily expect to happen, but it did. What are
the Kansas City Chiefs do? They went on and they
won the Super Bowl. Okay, but guess what. As a
Raiders fan, Christmas will awesome. Yeah, And as a Chiefs fan,
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it may not have been great, but there was something
down the line bigger for you, something that was there. Right,
This is the same thing over and over again, watching
this hoping for Clint Dempse or Landon Donovan to save
the day and then maybe just cross your fingers that
you'll be able to win a match in the knockout stage.
That's what the past was. Now you're hoping that this
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new generation is able to advance and do something more.
And by the way, they have got us invested. And
it's not to rain on the Copa America because it's
a very big tournament. But it's not even like we're
doing this after a World Cup conversation. We're like doing
this in advance of the World Cup that's coming in
two years to the United States, and so now time
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is running out for the success that you want to
have there. That's a good conversation to have. That also
tells you that soccer has grown to the point where
it's being talked about at this point. But I think
a lot of us are sick of it, even if
we're diehards or if we're casual fans. Win games that
you're not supposed to win, matches that you're not supposed.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To make them exciting. Yes, give us something to look
forward to.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I just I couldn't imagine. This is what the cowboys
have been dealing with for twenty years really, and maybe
even more thirty years if you want for that fact,
and I feel that the US men's national team is
on a similar road. They get beat up on all
the you know, the have nots, but when it comes
down to it and you need to win, they can't
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come up big in the clutch. And that's just completely
I wish I had a great soccer you know, analytic
take on all of this. I don't. All I know
is that it sucked that they're not moving on and
that we're not going to watch them play again and
we're going to see eight other countries in the knockout stage.
We might always just cheer for Canada now, I mean,
they at least made it. They made it through.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
And also like the way it just ended, It's like
you just it just felt it fell flat watching them.
There was no excitement because I think like even with
the loss, if we would have seen a different game plan,
we maybe would bes frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Sure, but you lost three two, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
If they lost three two, I think we would feel
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
But the way it ended it was it was rough.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I mean, not to bring up Costa Rica and Brazil again,
but remember how happy I was about a scoreless draw,
because that was exciting for US. This was not exciting
for US men's soccer in any way.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
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Speaker 2 (16:34):
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He's a soccer Hall of Famer who's played in three
World Cups and is here to shed some light on
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what went wrong and what has gone wrong with the
US men's national team. Eric Guinalda joins the program. Eric,
great to talk to you again, man. How are you.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
Oh, it's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
What's going on a lot?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was scratching my head last night. Not the most
diehard soccer fan, but I feel that this program has
been in neutral for the last twenty years or so.
Is that a fair assessment of where we are right
now with the US men's national team.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
Well, it's tough, you know, it's tough to watch right now.
There's a lot going on and for the Neutrals, As
you said, I mean, there's been a lot made of
this team. They've been called the Golden Generation for a
couple of years now, and guys like me are calling
them the silver Spoon. They've been given everything and they
haven't delivered much at all. But there's I mean, we
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can deep dive into this because there's a lot that
needs to be explained, and I think the general public
is trying to figure out why are these guys doing
better because they really should be. But there's some stuff
going on behind the scenes. There's some stuff going on
with the team that's making this really problematic.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Hi, Eric, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I was telling Dan that it seemed to me like
the team was not prepared.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
They didn't look prepared.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So is it excuse to say maybe the coaching staff
is to blame?
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Well, I mean, look, everybody, there's been this ongoing narrative
that the burhold out. Nobody seems to really think he's
the guy that can lead this team. This performance is
kind of it's complicated because a lot has been made
of this team and how close they are in this brotherhood,
and they all stood up for their coach and wanted
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him back. And you know, I was listening to Carvey Lloyd,
who's a world champion, who said, look, we won World
Cups when we hated our coach. And has nothing to
do with it. The friendships and the complacency that we
saw last night and throughout this tournament, maybe even over
of course of the last year. Is there really real
reason why you know, Greg Burholt pretty pretty much has
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proven to be the wrong guy, uh, for this position.
There's a lot of controversy surrounding his first hiring the
second time they brought him back, and I just I
just think that, you know, with all these metrics and
all these methodologies and philosophy towards the game, uh, these
guys just need a little fashion kick in the asset
to start, you know, performing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So is it is it friendships with the players? Is
it friendships with people in the federation? What friendships are
the reason why this backfired with the US?
Speaker 10 (19:31):
You can't be friends with your coach, you know. And
that's that's what we saw, is all these all these
guys stood up for him, and they saw we really
want him back, We really like playing for him. Well,
of course you do. He keeps playing you you're just starting,
and you've become a very complacent player because you know
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you've got a starting lineup with this coach. What they
need is a breadth the fresh air they need. They
need some new eyes, you know, watching them. They need
to convince whole new set of coaches that they are
the work theirselves. And lately we've just seen a team
that just because they're playing in big clubs doesn't mean
that they're great players. They have really not come together
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and their coach really hasn't been able to put a
fire under them. They just haven't played the way that
they can. So I think the majority of US now,
you know, I've been saying this for a couple of months,
but I think everybody's coming around to the idea that
if we're going to go into a World Cup in
twenty twenty six, we better have the right guy at
the helm who doesn't care if he's friends with these guys,
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who just wants to get the best out of the team.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Do you think that US men's soccer has favored like
strength and size over technical skill and ability over the
last couple of years.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
You know, that's that's a great you know, that's a
great point, because what is happening now and we listen
to you know, some of the old guard, myself included,
talk about what we what we used to be really
good at is we were gritty, We we had fight.
We knew that we possibly didn't have the most technical players,
but we always came together in the big moments and
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we were able to beat the likes of Argentina, beat Brazil,
beat Columbia, beat Russia. That we were a team that
that we were. It was always called an upset, but
to us it was just another game. These guys, these
guys have have been told that they're that they're fantastic.
They've been told that they're the best generation that we've
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ever had. Uh, and there's not been a whole lot
of bonus put on on the realities of their results.
They talk a lot about performances and not results. We
were a result driven group. It's almost like Greg Berholtz
keeps talking about performances like he goes on a stage
and he sings and he waits for them to either
bow or clap. That's nothing how it works, and the
game's over. They posted a winner and a loser, and
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lately we've been losers. So he's got he's got to
understand that. And I think these boys, as talented as
they are, they need a little more, a little bit
more grit if they're going to start getting real results.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Eric when all they're joining us here at Fox Sports Radio,
host of again WTF when all the talks football on
serious x SEM one fifty seven, she's monte Blaio. So
I'm Dan byr in for Doug Gottlieb. Now when they
don't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen, seems like
an enormous wake up call? Was it? Like? What what changed?
Why do I feel things have basically just kind of
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been the same over the last twenty years? Like what
what in? Was that an opportunity to really shake things up?
Because to me, a lot of times, when you hit
that low point, you respond and you bounce back, maybe
in astronomical ways, And it doesn't seem like this club
has done that. Like is there what what went wrong
or what needed to go wrong? When they missed the
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World Cup six years ago?
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Well, I mean, look, if I was right there with you,
I ran for president of US Soccer because I thought
it was a time for change and to kind of
clean house and get some real confident people that knew
the game. But I was going to surround myself with
with a lot of business, uh you know, business folks
that were going to be able to figure out how
to how to utilize what they were calling at the
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time as the surplus of two hundred million dollars that
they had, which is now down to about eighty They
burned through it because of losses and a whole bunch
of uh you know, problems that mainly the lawyers are
wanted people that have profited out of this thing. What
happened in twenty eighteen, it was a chance for the
reset button, but they really went back to the well
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they went they went back to the status quo, and
they decided that we're going to handle this internally, and
we can handle this with with the people that we
already have. And obviously it hasn't been an epic failure,
but it really has married us to mediocrity. So, you know,
if you look at at what is happening now, you
have Greg Berhalter who's sitting on probably out five point
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two five point three million dollars left on his contract.
It'd be very expensive to let go. And then the
big question is is if you're going to bring somebody
else in who can actually handle this job, how e
spented will they be with a You know, if you're
looking at the ledger Man that the numbers have been
going down consistently, consistently for about three and a half years.
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So they got to find the money to find a
good coach and I don't know if they have it.
They just build a huge facility, the two hundred million
dollars in Atlanta where they get the money for that.
There's a whole lot of questions about how they're going
to reimburse themselves if they're going to share the World
Cup with Stifa, Mexico and Canada. There's a lot of
uncertainty about how much money they will actually be able
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to generate from hosting a World Cup because they got
to share it with the other country. So the lot
going on. There's a lot going on, and they have
to make some serious decisions about who's going to be
in charge in the next couple of couple of years.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
So it seems like they're kind of in a stuck
between a wall and a rock, and the change should
be the coach staff, right because they're young against other
teams they look young.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Well, I mean we saw that last night. I mean
obviously you know I'm in my fifties now and I'm
on the phone with the team that played the ninety
five Copoa America and we were really optimistic about last
night playing against Uruguay. It was going to be a fight.
We knew that, but our guys just kind of fell
short and they weren't able to really muster up the energy. Now,
(25:28):
there's two things that happened last night. Yes, our coach
was tactically not astude enough to figure it out, but
those boys learned a lot about what it takes to
win in international soccer. We remind everybody over the last
seven years, we haven't beaten anybody under Greg Berholter's watch.
We haven't beaten anybody in the top twenty five. We've
lost to all of them. All the games that we
(25:50):
were supposed to win, we win, but we haven't been
able to stand toe to toe with some of the
big boys and get a result. So last night was
a good and a bad thing. But I'm with you.
I think the coach just one of those deals. I'm
I was friends with Greg Buralter, I played with Greg Burlter.
I think it's just it's time to say goodbye, since
it because somebody else needs to be in chied. Somebody
(26:11):
did a bad job.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Is just that he just enough to take.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
Us to the end.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I call them the Dallas Cowboys. Like you can beat
the Giants, you can beat the Commanders, but you play
the Niners and.
Speaker 10 (26:21):
They're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
Absolutely, bring the cowboys in there, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Eric Gonalda. Jodagains here on Fox Sports Radio. I do
have a specific question about last night. Were you shocked
when Burhalter told them about the score of Bolivia and Panama?
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Yes, I was. And I got to be honest with you, man,
if my coach was telling me that and I was
in the middle of a heated battle like that, I
would have filled them to take a hike. I don't.
I don't think that was wise. It was obviously a
bad luck. They scored on us fourteen seconds. Pastors, he
did that. I mean, it really was a bad, bad deal,
and it sends the wall message, yes at the loser's
(26:57):
mentality to say, hey, don't worry about it, guys, we
can He'll tie the other games won one who cares
what the other game is. Go out there and beat
the opponent that's in front of you. Has always been
our attitude on the national team, and last night to
just kind of send that message that a tie is
good nothing, We'll just kind of back into the next round.
I just didn't like it. As a former player, I
(27:19):
couldn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Do you have a book coming out or was that
just just a line that.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Hey Christmas, everybody's gonna be running for the hills, that's
for sure. I mean, there's a lot to be to
be told about the story of US soccer, and it's
just a it's not all about, you know, the good
guys and the bad guys. But the bad guys aren't
gonna like my book.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I was going to say this and I was actually
going to reach out to you on my TikTok algorithm.
You did a pot you did you did a sit
down with twenty Minola, was there, Clint Dempsey and others?
I believe, yeah, And it was amazing. And the great
thing about it was what was in my algorithm were
just all of your clips, Like it was all like
every like I would you know, you know, see some
(28:00):
guy mowing his lawn, you know. Then a golf tap out,
there's one. All the talking about it like it's just
pure go. What was that from? Was that a paramount
thing or yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Kicking it with Kate Abdol old friend, and because we
worked together at Fox and I kind of knew what
I was getting into because we're such good friends. I
just didn't think she was going to ask me some
of the questions that she did. And I have this
flaw that you asked me a question, I'll give you
an answer. So a lot of people were shocked by
(28:30):
some of the answers, but yeah, that was just the truth.
It was some of these things when you get to
my age. I'm fifty five now for crying out loud,
so I don't really have a whole lot of time
laught to sit there and try and be diplomatic. I
don't care. I'm I'm if it's that's great.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I'm going to tell you that was great. Man.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I gotta tell you, I love listening to you talk,
I love having you on. I love that we could reconnect,
hopefully on better terms. Leave you with this. Will there
be a new coach for the US in twenty twenty
six of the World Cup.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
In the next couple of weeks from they're going to
do a review, probably doing an announcement, That's what I'm hearing.
And don't be surprised if it's a big name, because
you got to remember, in the World Cup in twenty
twenty six, kind of what I said before, the sponsors
can kick in money to allow the federation to afford
a big name coach. So don't forget that, because you know,
(29:19):
the MasterCards and the Atts of the world when they
kick in fifteen twenty million to take part of a
World Cup, that money that goes back to the Federation
can be utilized to get the coach that we really need.
So don't be surprised if it's a big name.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
All right, Eric, appreciate the time, man. We'll talk to
you soon. Thanks so much.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
You got it, brother. Thanks.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
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Speaker 2 (29:46):
Hello, Hello, I Happy Tuesday to you. Our buddy Eric
Ronaldo joined us in about twenty five minutes to talk
about the debacle that was last night in Kansas City.
And maybe it was just a small piece of the
debacle that is the US men's national team. Will the
Lakers be a debacle in the twenty twenty four twenty
twenty five season. That has yet to be determined. But
(30:07):
we got our first glimpse at the newest Lakers today
and we're about to hear from one of them in
a matter of seconds.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, those are all good questions. Another good question, do
you partake in taco Tuesday?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It is taco toos?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It is I do not like taco Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 4 (30:39):
I'm sorry who I.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Will tell you something that I am not very proud of.
I am not very proud of. But it happened to
me last week. So if I go to a Taco
Bell drive through love Taco Bell, it is completely foreign
to me. I have no idea what is where, I
don't know how I can order what. This is very embarrassing.
(31:04):
Last week I was just craving a fountain drink Mountain.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That's all just okay, and I just it's It's what
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's great on a hot summer day. It's different than
the can, it's different than the bottle. It's a fountain drink.
But when you look at your fast food providers on
who has coke and who has pepsi products, it is
fewer and fewer that have pepsi.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So McDonald's, no, they're a coke outlet.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
That's coke out there.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wendy's they're a coke outlet, of course, And I'm like,
where can I go to get a pepsi? So I
went to Taco Bell because I knew they were in
the pizza hut, you know that Young Brands group, the
whole deal. So I went there and I pulled up
and I got I said, do you guys have fries?
(31:51):
Because I didn't even know where to look, and it
wasn't in any of the pictures of the taco meals.
There was not like two hardshell talks goes and a
fry next to it and a drink. It's just the
tacos and whatever. But so I got fries. And a
drink from Taco Bell. Yes, they're very good. I like them,
(32:12):
And I told my wife, I'm like, I thought about
ordering a taco just to see what it's like.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
But you don't like.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
To see if I would like it, So you don't even.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Know if you like tacos.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And that's not even real taco d Yeah, I know, correct, Like,
that's not an authentic taco. I don't like to mix food.
That's that's the point of this. I don't like. I
don't like cross pollination on a lot of stuff. I'm
not a huge fan of it. If I have my choice,
I want my mashed potatoes separated from my meat with
the pad of butter on it. If it gets some
(32:43):
of the I don't know, o ju sauce from a
B frost, that's fine, that's fine. But a majority of
the time, I am not a big mixer of foods.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yes, that's why you don't like breakfast burritos. Correct, too
much going on? Yes, much going on?
Speaker 10 (32:59):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But the worst part about this, and you will hear
from Brownie James, people look at you so weird, but
they have no idea on how awful it actually makes
you feel. Like I would. I don't wear it as
a badge of honor, right, It's very embarrassing. One of
my greatest fears was marrying someone and then going over
(33:24):
to their house and eating food that I would not
like and then insulting my in laws right right, And
thank goodness they were they were not insulted when I
tried K bob, which I thought was just hamburger, but
it had all this other stuff inside them. Yeah, it
was not not a thing for me. But yeah, it stinks.
(33:45):
It really stinks. If you're a picky eater like me,
it really stinks, and be like, no thanks, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean, I get it as a vegetarian. When people
offer me things, they're like, you want to know, Like
when I was like, I just I'm sorry, I don't
eat that, you know, so I understand, but don't feel
bad about it.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Don't feel bad about it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, thanks, I'm good. Which one was the real one?
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Which one was the drop?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well that was the drop that No thanks them, but
it sounded exactly like your draft bill. Thanks, I'm good.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
My favorite part, my favorite part on our regular show
is when Doug has manse on the updates and I
think He's asked her no less than six times what
her favorite hamburger is, what her favorite chicken is, and
every time she tells them that she doesn't eat meat,
And two months later we'll be together again in a
(34:34):
back massie.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Do you like it's your favorite of hot dogs?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
What's your favorite? How do you eat your pot ROAs?
I don't, thanks, Doug?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
What type of beer you're like?
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I don't know, Doug. I don't drink beer. I don't know,
and I know I'm gonna get sweets. People point out
I'm what a stupid human I am by not eating
tacos and not drinking beer. But it's just one of those,
one of those things.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's your life, your life, don't worry. I love a
good steak though, yeah, I mean I did too.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Don't cover it in too much. Just nice. Maybe a
garlic butter on top, yeah, melted over right, maybe a
little marinade.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
But here's the radio conundrum, because you came out in
the first ninety seconds of the hour and you told
the nation I don't eat tacos. At that point, we
can't not address it. At that point, it becomes an
ie ore and we have to get into it.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
So that was that's how that pointed out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
This is also forty eight hours we're on the heels
of forty eight hours ago. Someone tweeted me called me
an American because and Manzi knows this. I don't hate dogs. Yeah,
dogs are just not the biggest fan of me. I
don't like movies. I don't like condiments. Adding ketchup and mustard.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I don't either. I don't like I have.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I don't drink, And he said Dan Byer on Fox
is the picture of being un American. Let me count
the ways, and he puts six different things down. And
I don't hate dogs. I do cuss, but I don't drink.
I'm not a big movie fan. I don't love condiments.
And I know with my accent sometimes my a's get
(36:16):
out of get out of left field?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Oh good, thank you?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is that of the cue to get back to Bronnie
James and hearing by the way, by the way, Yeah, gladly, gladly,
Rob Polenka, Bronnie James, take it away, the newest Lakers
talking today. If you're gonna play the drop, Sam, get
the sound ready for them when I throw it to
it all right, just just play something and get me
(36:44):
out of this conundrum, so America stops hating me. Here's
Bronnie all right.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
You know, I always try to put that narrative of
me trying to get my name out for myself, but
just coming in and trying to get better. You know,
Rob has told me that there's a great element system here,
so I just want to come in and get my
work in and get better every day. But I never
really had a thought of, you know, me going to
play with my dad. But that's always you know, there
(37:12):
to take part of. But that wasn't the main focus.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm on it a perfect dancer up until the last
seven seconds. Yeah, the perfect answer, developmental. We've got a
program here. I'm excited to work. But I never gave
the thought that's not true.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Your dad's been talking about this for years.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That would be on Hollywood Squares, which your Saturday partner
Steve Hartman was on. Once he would say I disagree,
and then you would be like, okay, correct, Yes he did.
He actually did think about it. This has been a
family plan for a long long time.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, And I don't see what's wrong in saying that
right at this point, Why why deny that you're there?
And I think more people, I think Adam, you know,
we just spoke to Adam Osland, who is the pre
halftime and post Clippers radio a five seventy guy, and
(38:05):
he talked about how, like the fifty fifth pick in
the last ten years in the NBA hasn't really done
anything and so why are people so up in arms
about it?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And obviously that has to.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Do a lot with who Lebron James is, who the
Lakers are as a brand. But I think people are
jumping more on the ship of like, Okay, this is cool,
this is happening, even if nepotism is involved. I think
more people are just getting you know, on board with it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
So at this point it's like, why lie.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
At this point you should have just been like, this
has been in the works for a really long time,
and I'm so excited that it actually came to fruition.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't even think you have to say that. I
think you could say, you know what, I know, it's
been a dream of my dad's. You know, we would
joke about this playing in the you know, in the
park and stuff like that. Crazy, how an opportunity for
this is able to happen, and I hope to take
full advantage of it.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Maybe you're right, Maybe that's the angle right of saying, like,
I know my dad had and wanting this for a while.
He expressed that to everybody. I didn't think it was
gonna happen, but here I am sure. So just to
make it just that, yeah, that's that's we know, you're cappin, Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
There's a lot of different ways that you could you
could be like, you know, honestly testament to my dad
to be playing this long. Yeah, that allowed me to
even grow up and get to this point to be
able to do this, like it's you know, I'm really
proud of my dad for being able to do like
that would have been. You say that, Yeah, you shut
everybody up right right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like, don't pretend he's not your dad.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It almost seems like he wants to separate himself from it,
and it's like, no, now you're here, embrace it, have
fun with it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yes, yeah, I don't have as much. I don't think
it was the greatest answer for Bronnie. But again, ron
it's new to him. It's new to the game, and
I know he's got the name, but this is going
to take an adjustment period. I do have a problem
with Rob Polinka lying to us though as the Lakers
GM was also there. Oh it's Jado Reddick. Okay, j
j Reddick maybe not telling the whole truth.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Rob and I did not give Bronnie anything. Bronnie has
earned this. Bronnie talks about his hard work. Bronnie has
earned this through hard work, and for us prioritizing player development,
we view Bronnie as like case study one because his
base level of feel, athleticism, point of attack, defender, shooting, passing,
(40:27):
there's a lot to like about his game, and as
we sort of build out our player development program holistically,
he's going to have a great opportunity to become an
excellent NBA player.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Where did you see all this in one year at
USC playing how many minutes?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yes? Correct? I agree with you. I also the fact
of like deserved, right, that's the part like there's there,
It's there's a there, there are there are other people
who maybe deserve it or earn the opportunity like there's
like that's maybe even more so to the point of
(41:07):
getting that opportunity to be taken in the second round
of it. But to sit there and I just for
some reason that just hits my ear so wrong because
it means that the other people that they had considered
didn't deserve it as much as Bronni did. And he
may have done all the work just like everybody else.
(41:28):
But yeah, it's there's nobody again. It just goes back
to the point nobody had him as a the fifty
fifth overall pick. If the Lakers name wasn't next to
that pick, would not have happened.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
No, it would not have happened.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
And we all know that lebron has a very crazy
worth work ethic. We know that what he puts into
his body and how much he cares, So we can't
assume that, you know, Bronni also has a good work
ethic and that he has put in the work and
he has has tried to put himself in a position
(42:02):
to succeed. It's just we haven't seen it because it
all seemed to have happened so fast. So back to
what I said about Bronni's comments, like, JJ, here we are,
it's here, it's happening. Why do we have to keep
pretending about it. I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
We're here, it's happening and stop saying that.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, well that's it's keeping up the charade. Yes, and
this happens.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, but like you cursed in your introductory press conference,
you don't need to keep up any charades.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
But no, but the story to go along. As long
as Lebron's on the team, you're going to still keep
up the story and develop. Like if you're Dalton Connect
and you're sitting right next to him, I can't I
can't figure out if it's a great opportunity for Dalton
Connect because here you are a first round pick, kind
of dropped in the draft. Now you're on a better team.
You're actually under the radar as the other rookie on
the team. Or is it an opportunity where you're like Geez,
(42:55):
I played at you know, this small school, then transferred here,
transferred there, and I became the SEC player of the year.
I'm a first round pick in the NBA and nobody
cares about me because the guy sitting next to me.
Not that this is a Dalton Connect conversation, but it's
just interesting when the second round pick is getting way
more of the conversation than the first round pick, who
is the SEC player of the year.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
This past year, he is definitely getting more of the conversation.
But this could be a good situation for Dalton Connects
because I don't see how the Lakers move forward with
only helping one rookie. I'm assuming Dalton connect is going
to get as much of the attention and focus. We
may not be talking about him, but I assume the
Lakers are going to handle them very hand in hand together.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
That would make sense, would it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
That one guy's twenty three years old and is vastly
more experienced than the nineteen year old kid.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
He's already skyrocketed. Like, we have to see them now
as an equal. Now we have to here we are.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
The Dalton connect story is a story that Jason, what
do you hate?
Speaker 12 (43:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
They couldn't make this up in Hollywood? Isn't that the line?
Speaker 12 (44:00):
One of those things where if you walked into a
script room in Hollywood did throw you out of the room.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
It's so unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Here here, here's a kid who goes to junior college,
then plays D two, then goes to the SEC, becomes
that conference best player, and is a first round pick
of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
A great story that's that's.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
An amazing story that we are just completely bypassing.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Earned his spot to keep.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Up this this this.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Facade, facade of what we're going.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
On, Bronnie, there's this is the other part of it
is this is where there could have been people in
Brownie's yere. I really I blame him so little. Yeah,
there is just so little of it. But of just
of like King Man, you want to say this, maybe
you want to say that this will go over well,
and because not only is it yeah, you grow up
the life of lebron James. There's also the difference of
(44:54):
and I know he's been in the spotlight, but I
think this is different. This is professional and you need
that help along the and the people that are in
your camp I don't think are there helping you because
they want the other narrative to continue going.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yeah, definitely, I'm sure somebody told him what to say
or what the questions coming like this is how you
want to answer.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
This is probably the best way to go about it.
I also agree, I.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Don't blame Bronny in a lot of this, if anything
at all, I don't think I do. He is in
this position of privilege and like we would all take
advantage if we could, right, Like I one PC understand that.
I just feel like, now we're here, stop with the charades,
and I think things would go better.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think they told them to have fun, but again,
just say that it was never the plan. That's the
advice that I think that they gave to us, and
it was.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Not good advice, and it was not good advice. I
haven't seen any videos.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Was Lebron there because all the pictures of stuff I saw,
he seemed to be there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
I'm curious to know if he was there, because it's like,
you should be there, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I would think I would think that he would.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I hope. So I hope because that would be another movement.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
It's like, why aren't we Okay, great, Okay, all the
pictures I hadn't seen him, so he was there, Okay, Yeah,
that makes sense, perfect,
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Welcome in on a Tuesday. I know you can't see
the visual right now, but it is not the sun, dude,
there's not the sun. Both Monty and I are wearing orange.
I feel minus is way much more brighter than yours.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yours is.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
It's a little bit brighter. I don't know if brighter.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Is the word, but yes, because it's not like a
bright orange.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But you're right, yours is a little bit lighter.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
What's funny is everybody, I'm gonna give you a little
backstory here is that yesterday or two days ago, whenever
I Dan was Ryan a pink shirt. I was like, Dan,
I like your shirt, and he's like, oh, I have
an orange one. I was like, yeah, no, not the orange.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I had already bought. The orange was already purchased. It
was actually in the queue to be worn at some
point this week and I wore today.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Yeah, I turned I turned it down so fast, and
then I walked in and.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm wearing and made up this story that she went
out to buy this orange shirt and then it's it
was a complete shot at me wearing orange, but so
be it.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
No, this is new. I literally took it for man.
I took the tags off today because I also was
like orange.
Speaker 7 (01:28):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But then you put it on and you're like, your shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Is rust it is, this is orange.
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Speaker 4 (01:46):
The way Tirebine should.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Mance's shirt is the the terra cotta pots that you
would put your plants in. It went, yeah, that is
exactly the color.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Of a basketball.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Like no, no, like you're right about the bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
All right.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Let's but we're matching, and that's the point, and we
didn't plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
We're gonna try to Yeah, we're gonna try to brighten
your day with some great guests. Eric Guinaldo's going to
join us next hour to talk about the US men's
national team and their defeat at the hands of I
try to say as few of consonants as I can
when I sayguay. So I was like, I know you
got to say the G, but I try to even
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skip it. I want all vowels.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Gotcha.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Oh, so you're you're trying to say that's that's what you're.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Trying to say, got it.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I know that there's like G in there, yes, but
I just like to skip all over it. US falls
and will not advance to the knockout stage of Copa America.
Simon le bon Is at Wimbledon for those that are wondering,
lead singer of Duran. Duran just able to throw that
in there. He came up on the screen. US loses
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last night. I would love to have this great philosophical
take and maybe Eric Menalda can give us that information.
I'm just I'm just sick of whatever this is. We
are so past the point Manzi of what's popular popularized
soccer like it's very popular. The men's national team has
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a huge audience. If they didn't, it wouldn't be on Fox,
it wouldn't be on FS one. We wouldn't be as invested.
This is a different conversation than it was twenty years ago.
So sitting down and watching a match against Panama like
we did the other night, which by the way, there
was a moment where it looked like the US was cruising.
They had won their first match, they had actually scored
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early against Panama. Then that goal was taken away, then
Tim Waya got a red card, and then it just
seemed to be all absolute downhill from that point since,
and it just feels like more of the same where
I don't know what's happening. I assume that we need
a new head coach. I assume that these players have
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to step up, But it feels like we have been
in neutral since Eric Lenalda. In the nineteen ninety four
American team broke through when the World Cup was in
the United States, and when you look back at their history, Manci,
you see them advance to the knockout stage in Qatar,
cutter however you want to pronounce it. In twenty twenty two,
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they didn't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen. They
advanced to the knockout stage in the previous two World Cups,
but lost right away. It was only in two thousand
and two where they ended up making it to the
quarterfinals of the World Cup, which is final eight. That's
freaking amazing. But then, why for the last twenty two
years are we just still here? Why hasn't there been
like this amazing run of this amazing upset and even
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last night in a match that they weren't expected to win,
they are still in. And then at the the worst,
most in opportunistic time, when the result that you need
miles away ends up happening for that moment, you end
up giving up your own lead, so there's nothing to
even cheer for in a game. I guess I'm just
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fed up because I feel like we've been in the
same place for twenty plus years.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And the reason you're even more fed up is because
the last you know, couple, let's see, the last eight
years or so, we keep hearing that there is a
lot of talent coming out, young talent coming to represent
the men's US, Because we already know the women's soccer
team has been dominating for years, and we've wanted the
men to kind of you know, live up to the expectation,
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and we keep hearing young talent, you know, polistic being
a part of the team now, and then they fall flat.
But it's like the talent seems to be there and
I see it, and then you hear other people talking
about it, So why is it that they keep falling flat?
It's kind of frustrating. It's like I don't think they're
cruising through the motions, but you're right, like, what is
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the point of this if we keep hearing that this
is a talented team that should be able to get
further than we have in twenty years and then they
fall flat on their faces. Now, the game against Panamak
unraveled kind of quickly. Things with Tim Waya that just sucked,
and not every tournament adds a suspension because they feel
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it's egregious, which I think that was another dark cloud
that came over the team when they found that out.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But it's like, why weren't you prepared? Isn't that don't
you feel like they just weren't prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I just feel that in again, because it's not the
background of the US soccer team that I am fully
invested in. I watch them, I sit down and enjoy it.
I may join a match in the first ten minutes,
made join it in the first twenty minutes, but I
will watch it after that. So whether they look prepared
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or unprepared, honestly, some of it is over my head
and what is actually trying to go on. All I
know is is when I watch the Dallas Cowboys play
football and they beat up on the New York Giants,
and they beat up on the Washington Commanders, and when
they play the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they don't win.
And I feel it's the same exact thing with the
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US men's national team. So whether they're prepared or not, Monzi,
I can't answer that. All I know is that at
the end of the matches they usually aren't on top
against a better team or winning a match that maybe
they shouldn't have won. And I believe the stat was
in their last ten matches against top fifteen teams outside
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of Mexico that they are zero five and five, So
they haven't won any of the matches, and we're supposed
to be happy over draws, and that is just it
that to me is frustrating. I would rather have the
roller coaster of the ups and downs and ups and
downs than to go through this ride at thirty five
miles per hour for the past twenty thirty years. So
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I can't even answer your question of did they look prepared?
Do they look not prepared? I always feel that there
are just certain moments in matches where you end up
breaking through. But I do know that when Greg Burhalter
told the team that the Bolivia and Panama match was
tied up at one apiece, that was actually done at
the absolute worst moment in something that you shouldn't do.
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So I can't answer the question about the preparedness, but
just for the fact that they haven't beaten anybody that
is better than them, it drives me absolutely crazy. It's
very Dallas Cowboys ask.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Well, like you said, at least the Dallas Cowboys are
winning some. But in the sense I hear what you're saying,
I just wonder, like, how prepared are you are you
guys actually practicing together?
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Are we? Do you have a good leader? No, let's
not even what.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
The coach did to give the score of the other game.
At what point in the game did he tell them
the score?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
With the sixty third minutes what was the.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Point of that.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I understand, well, we can hope that you were trying
to motivate, but there's no oh away you thought this
is the time to motivate at this point. The only
time you should have given the score to that game
maybe is at halftime, right, Like, that's the only time maybe, I.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Would say, I would say almost if you're in stoppage time, right,
you're depending on what your result is at the time,
knowing that you need to maybe change something. But there
were thirty minutes left in there. There's thirty minutes left
in their man.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Right, that was like a desperation move, and a desperation
move in a moment where you didn't need to be
in a desperation move. And if you're a player like
and you are told this score by your coach.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I don't know how I would handle that.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
I I don't know if you would stop playing as
hard or you would start playing harder.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
It just made no sense. It just made no sense.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
And the whole game the refs are a separate conversation,
but the referee the refs in the game.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Very early on, it seemed like they were just gonna
let them do whatever they wanted.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Both ways, even though I know that the US team
felt that maybe the calls were not going in their favor,
maybe the.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
US wasn't the better team, They weren't the better team
coming in and they lost. And so that is also
the recipe for refs really screwed us that we could
have won. It's a great excuse maker, but I don't
know if it had anything to do with last night
and the point of telling your team that you that
the other match was tied up at one to one.
I feel that Peralta thought that it was a motivating tactic.
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You would hope so, right, But that's the problem is
you shouldn't need to motivate your team sixty five minutes
into what feels like a must win match that should
have been done in minute one. That like, your team
should have been motivated at that point. If you are
changing strategy for how things are being played, that's fine.
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But at that point, when it was one point one,
you're still zero zero, where a loss kills you. It's
not like Bolivia was running away against Panama. All Bolivia
did was pull even and then we find out Panama
scores again, scores again, ends up winning three to one.
Later on. But it is such a knee jerk reaction.
That is, it's awful as leadership because you're trying to motivate.
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It's also just awful as a tactician and how you're
going to set up the next thirty minutes of your match,
because then it's giving a message to your team we
are going to be playing a different way. And I
don't think that you can do that with thirty minutes
left in the match when Bolivia is not expected to
beat Panama. At that point, I think you still have
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to go and try to win the match, and especially
when you're the underdog in this match against Uruguas, so
maybe their only thinking is we'll advance if we draw,
and then they draw in that other match. It's the
only way to do it. That still, to tell your
team at that point is way too early. It's like
Tiger Wood's looking at the leader board with fourteen holes
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left to play, maybe even ten holes left to play.
At some point you kind of have to have an idea,
but when you have an entire third of the match
to go, it just seems like awful on leadership, awful
on being a tactician.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
And that's what I mean about It didn't seem like
they were prepared. It didn't seem like they had a
good game plan going into that game.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
And you shouldn't have been happy with the draw, like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
You said everything you just said, Dan, you just hit
it right on the nose, Like it seemed like they
were okay with the draw.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
How are you okay with that? You needed to win
that game.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
And also if you would have won, you still didn't
have tim waya the next game. You needed to play
your best to take that momentum into the next game.
And it just seems like there was no order, there
was no leadership.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I like that you use that word.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
To me, was like, it just didn't seem like they
were prepared for the game. And who does that land on?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh? That lands on yeah, Greg Burholter, right head coach
Alexi Lalas had a lot to say after the match
on Fox Sports One. Here's what the analyst and former
World Cup star had to say about this US men's
national team.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
I think what we have learned over the these cycles
is that this team is not able to do anything
better than is done in the past.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
That that hurts. That hurts to say.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
If this is as good as it gets it's it's
not good enough, and there's plenty of excuses, but they
don't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
You can talk about opportunities, Well, we got players that
are playing all over the world talk about playing in Europe. Well,
the entire team that you saw out there plays in Europe.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So it's not MLS's fault.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
You can talk about, you know, the pathways and the
resources that they have. No generation has been given more
and yet this generation hasn't lived up to that bargain.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Up to it.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
And he's right, it's the same old story. We watched
an NFL season where on Christmas Day the Raiders went
into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs, something that I
didn't necessarily expect to happen, but it did. What are
the Kansas City Chiefs do? They went on and they
won the Super Bowl. Okay, but guess what. As a
Raiders fan, Christmas will awesome. Yeah, And as a Chiefs fan,
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it may not have been great, but there was something
down the line bigger for you, something that was there. Right,
This is the same thing over and over again, watching
this hoping for Clint Dempse or Landon Donovan to save
the day and then maybe just cross your fingers that
you'll be able to win a match in the knockout stage.
That's what the past was. Now you're hoping that this
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new generation is able to advance and do something more.
And by the way, they have got us invested. And
it's not to rain on the Copa America because it's
a very big tournament. But it's not even like we're
doing this after a World Cup conversation. We're like doing
this in advance of the World Cup that's coming in
two years to the United States, and so now time
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is running out for the success that you want to
have there. That's a good conversation to have. That also
tells you that soccer has grown to the point where
it's being talked about at this point. But I think
a lot of us are sick of it, even if
we're diehards or if we're casual fans. Win games that
you're not supposed to win, matches that you're not supposed.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To make them exciting. Yes, give us something to look
forward to.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I just I couldn't imagine. This is what the cowboys
have been dealing with for twenty years really, and maybe
even more thirty years if you want for that fact,
and I feel that the US men's national team is
on a similar road. They get beat up on all
the you know, the have nots, but when it comes
down to it and you need to win, they can't
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come up big in the clutch. And that's just completely
I wish I had a great soccer you know, analytic
take on all of this. I don't. All I know
is that it sucked that they're not moving on and
that we're not going to watch them play again and
we're going to see eight other countries in the knockout stage.
We might always just cheer for Canada now, I mean,
they at least made it. They made it through.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
And also like the way it just ended, It's like
you just it just felt it fell flat watching them.
There was no excitement because I think like even with
the loss, if we would have seen a different game plan,
we maybe would bes frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Sure, but you lost three two, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
If they lost three two, I think we would feel
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
But the way it ended it was it was rough.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
I mean, not to bring up Costa Rica and Brazil again,
but remember how happy I was about a scoreless draw,
because that was exciting for US. This was not exciting
for US men's soccer in any way.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Doug Gottlieb shout Fox Sports Radio. She's Monte Bologno. So
I'm Dan Byer in for Doug today. Hit her up
at Monte Bolognos. You can find me at Dan Byer
on Fox. Our next guest you can hear on the
WTF when All the Talks Football show on Sirius x Sam.
He's a soccer Hall of Famer who's played in three
World Cups and is here to shed some light on
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what went wrong and what has gone wrong with the
US men's national team. Eric Guinalda joins the program. Eric,
great to talk to you again, man. How are you.
Speaker 10 (17:05):
Oh, it's good to hear your voice.
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
What's going on a lot?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I was scratching my head last night. Not the most
diehard soccer fan, but I feel that this program has
been in neutral for the last twenty years or so.
Is that a fair assessment of where we are right
now with the US men's national team.
Speaker 10 (17:22):
Well, it's tough, you know, it's tough to watch right now.
There's a lot going on and for the Neutrals, As
you said, I mean, there's been a lot made of
this team. They've been called the Golden Generation for a
couple of years now, and guys like me are calling
them the silver Spoon. They've been given everything and they
haven't delivered much at all. But there's I mean, we
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can deep dive into this because there's a lot that
needs to be explained, and I think the general public
is trying to figure out why are these guys doing
better because they really should be. But there's some stuff
going on behind the scenes. There's some stuff going on
with the team that's making this really problematic.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Hi, Eric, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
I was telling Dan that it seemed to me like
the team was not prepared.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
They didn't look prepared.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
So is it excuse to say maybe the coaching staff
is to blame?
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Well, I mean, look, everybody, there's been this ongoing narrative
that the burhold out. Nobody seems to really think he's
the guy that can lead this team. This performance is
kind of it's complicated because a lot has been made
of this team and how close they are in this brotherhood,
and they all stood up for their coach and wanted
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him back. And you know, I was listening to Carvey Lloyd,
who's a world champion, who said, look, we won World
Cups when we hated our coach. And has nothing to
do with it. The friendships and the complacency that we
saw last night and throughout this tournament, maybe even over
of course of the last year. Is there really real
reason why you know, Greg Burholt pretty pretty much has
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proven to be the wrong guy, uh, for this position.
There's a lot of controversy surrounding his first hiring the
second time they brought him back, and I just I
just think that, you know, with all these metrics and
all these methodologies and philosophy towards the game, uh, these
guys just need a little fashion kick in the asset
to start, you know, performing.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So is it is it friendships with the players? Is
it friendships with people in the federation? What friendships are
the reason why this backfired with the US?
Speaker 10 (19:31):
You can't be friends with your coach, you know. And
that's that's what we saw, is all these all these
guys stood up for him, and they saw we really
want him back, We really like playing for him. Well,
of course you do. He keeps playing you you're just starting,
and you've become a very complacent player because you know
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you've got a starting lineup with this coach. What they
need is a breadth the fresh air they need. They
need some new eyes, you know, watching them. They need
to convince whole new set of coaches that they are
the work theirselves. And lately we've just seen a team
that just because they're playing in big clubs doesn't mean
that they're great players. They have really not come together
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and their coach really hasn't been able to put a
fire under them. They just haven't played the way that
they can. So I think the majority of US now,
you know, I've been saying this for a couple of months,
but I think everybody's coming around to the idea that
if we're going to go into a World Cup in
twenty twenty six, we better have the right guy at
the helm who doesn't care if he's friends with these guys,
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who just wants to get the best out of the team.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Do you think that US men's soccer has favored like
strength and size over technical skill and ability over the
last couple of years.
Speaker 10 (20:49):
You know, that's that's a great you know, that's a
great point, because what is happening now and we listen
to you know, some of the old guard, myself included,
talk about what we what we used to be really
good at is we were gritty, We we had fight.
We knew that we possibly didn't have the most technical players,
but we always came together in the big moments and
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we were able to beat the likes of Argentina, beat Brazil,
beat Columbia, beat Russia. That we were a team that
that we were. It was always called an upset, but
to us it was just another game. These guys, these
guys have have been told that they're that they're fantastic.
They've been told that they're the best generation that we've
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ever had. Uh, and there's not been a whole lot
of bonus put on on the realities of their results.
They talk a lot about performances and not results. We
were a result driven group. It's almost like Greg Berholtz
keeps talking about performances like he goes on a stage
and he sings and he waits for them to either
bow or clap. That's nothing how it works, and the
game's over. They posted a winner and a loser, and
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lately we've been losers. So he's got he's got to
understand that. And I think these boys, as talented as
they are, they need a little more, a little bit
more grit if they're going to start getting real results.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Eric when all they're joining us here at Fox Sports Radio,
host of again WTF when all the talks football on
serious x SEM one fifty seven, she's monte Blaio. So
I'm Dan byr in for Doug Gottlieb. Now when they
don't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen, seems like
an enormous wake up call? Was it? Like? What what changed?
Why do I feel things have basically just kind of
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been the same over the last twenty years? Like what
what in? Was that an opportunity to really shake things up?
Because to me, a lot of times, when you hit
that low point, you respond and you bounce back, maybe
in astronomical ways, And it doesn't seem like this club
has done that. Like is there what what went wrong
or what needed to go wrong? When they missed the
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World Cup six years ago?
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Well, I mean, look, if I was right there with you,
I ran for president of US Soccer because I thought
it was a time for change and to kind of
clean house and get some real confident people that knew
the game. But I was going to surround myself with
with a lot of business, uh you know, business folks
that were going to be able to figure out how
to how to utilize what they were calling at the
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time as the surplus of two hundred million dollars that
they had, which is now down to about eighty They
burned through it because of losses and a whole bunch
of uh you know, problems that mainly the lawyers are
wanted people that have profited out of this thing. What
happened in twenty eighteen, it was a chance for the
reset button, but they really went back to the well
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they went they went back to the status quo, and
they decided that we're going to handle this internally, and
we can handle this with with the people that we
already have. And obviously it hasn't been an epic failure,
but it really has married us to mediocrity. So, you know,
if you look at at what is happening now, you
have Greg Berhalter who's sitting on probably out five point
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two five point three million dollars left on his contract.
It'd be very expensive to let go. And then the
big question is is if you're going to bring somebody
else in who can actually handle this job, how e
spented will they be with a You know, if you're
looking at the ledger Man that the numbers have been
going down consistently, consistently for about three and a half years.
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So they got to find the money to find a
good coach and I don't know if they have it.
They just build a huge facility, the two hundred million
dollars in Atlanta where they get the money for that.
There's a whole lot of questions about how they're going
to reimburse themselves if they're going to share the World
Cup with Stifa, Mexico and Canada. There's a lot of
uncertainty about how much money they will actually be able
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to generate from hosting a World Cup because they got
to share it with the other country. So the lot
going on. There's a lot going on, and they have
to make some serious decisions about who's going to be
in charge in the next couple of couple of years.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
So it seems like they're kind of in a stuck
between a wall and a rock, and the change should
be the coach staff, right because they're young against other
teams they look young.
Speaker 10 (25:06):
Well, I mean we saw that last night. I mean
obviously you know I'm in my fifties now and I'm
on the phone with the team that played the ninety
five Copoa America and we were really optimistic about last
night playing against Uruguay. It was going to be a fight.
We knew that, but our guys just kind of fell
short and they weren't able to really muster up the energy. Now,
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there's two things that happened last night. Yes, our coach
was tactically not astude enough to figure it out, but
those boys learned a lot about what it takes to
win in international soccer. We remind everybody over the last
seven years, we haven't beaten anybody under Greg Berholter's watch.
We haven't beaten anybody in the top twenty five. We've
lost to all of them. All the games that we
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were supposed to win, we win, but we haven't been
able to stand toe to toe with some of the
big boys and get a result. So last night was
a good and a bad thing. But I'm with you.
I think the coach just one of those deals. I'm
I was friends with Greg Buralter, I played with Greg Burlter.
I think it's just it's time to say goodbye, since
it because somebody else needs to be in chied. Somebody
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did a bad job.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Is just that he just enough to take.
Speaker 10 (26:14):
Us to the end.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I call them the Dallas Cowboys. Like you can beat
the Giants, you can beat the Commanders, but you play
the Niners and.
Speaker 10 (26:21):
They're gonna lose.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. Yeah, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
Absolutely, bring the cowboys in there, didn't you?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Eric Gonalda. Jodagains here on Fox Sports Radio. I do
have a specific question about last night. Were you shocked
when Burhalter told them about the score of Bolivia and Panama?
Speaker 10 (26:36):
Yes, I was. And I got to be honest with you, man,
if my coach was telling me that and I was
in the middle of a heated battle like that, I
would have filled them to take a hike. I don't.
I don't think that was wise. It was obviously a
bad luck. They scored on us fourteen seconds. Pastors, he
did that. I mean, it really was a bad, bad deal,
and it sends the wall message, yes at the loser's
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mentality to say, hey, don't worry about it, guys, we
can He'll tie the other games won one who cares
what the other game is. Go out there and beat
the opponent that's in front of you. Has always been
our attitude on the national team, and last night to
just kind of send that message that a tie is
good nothing, We'll just kind of back into the next round.
I just didn't like it. As a former player, I
(27:19):
couldn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Do you have a book coming out or was that
just just a line that.
Speaker 10 (27:25):
Hey Christmas, everybody's gonna be running for the hills, that's
for sure. I mean, there's a lot to be to
be told about the story of US soccer, and it's
just a it's not all about, you know, the good
guys and the bad guys. But the bad guys aren't
gonna like my book.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I was going to say this and I was actually
going to reach out to you on my TikTok algorithm.
You did a pot you did you did a sit
down with twenty Minola, was there, Clint Dempsey and others?
I believe, yeah, And it was amazing. And the great
thing about it was what was in my algorithm were
just all of your clips, Like it was all like
every like I would you know, you know, see some
(28:00):
guy mowing his lawn, you know. Then a golf tap out,
there's one. All the talking about it like it's just
pure go. What was that from? Was that a paramount
thing or yeah?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (28:10):
Kicking it with Kate Abdol old friend, and because we
worked together at Fox and I kind of knew what
I was getting into because we're such good friends. I
just didn't think she was going to ask me some
of the questions that she did. And I have this
flaw that you asked me a question, I'll give you
an answer. So a lot of people were shocked by
(28:30):
some of the answers, but yeah, that was just the truth.
It was some of these things when you get to
my age. I'm fifty five now for crying out loud,
so I don't really have a whole lot of time
laught to sit there and try and be diplomatic. I
don't care. I'm I'm if it's that's great.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I'm going to tell you that was great. Man.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I gotta tell you, I love listening to you talk,
I love having you on. I love that we could reconnect,
hopefully on better terms. Leave you with this. Will there
be a new coach for the US in twenty twenty
six of the World Cup.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
In the next couple of weeks from they're going to
do a review, probably doing an announcement, That's what I'm hearing.
And don't be surprised if it's a big name, because
you got to remember, in the World Cup in twenty
twenty six, kind of what I said before, the sponsors
can kick in money to allow the federation to afford
a big name coach. So don't forget that, because you know,
(29:19):
the MasterCards and the Atts of the world when they
kick in fifteen twenty million to take part of a
World Cup, that money that goes back to the Federation
can be utilized to get the coach that we really need.
So don't be surprised if it's a big name.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
All right, Eric, appreciate the time, man. We'll talk to
you soon. Thanks so much.
Speaker 10 (29:34):
You got it, brother. Thanks.
Speaker 9 (29:36):
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Speaker 2 (29:46):
Hello, Hello, I Happy Tuesday to you. Our buddy Eric
Ronaldo joined us in about twenty five minutes to talk
about the debacle that was last night in Kansas City.
And maybe it was just a small piece of the
debacle that is the US men's national team. Will the
Lakers be a debacle in the twenty twenty four twenty
twenty five season. That has yet to be determined. But
(30:07):
we got our first glimpse at the newest Lakers today
and we're about to hear from one of them in
a matter of seconds.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, those are all good questions. Another good question, do
you partake in taco Tuesday?
Speaker 11 (30:18):
Dan?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
It is taco toos?
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It is I do not like taco Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 4 (30:39):
I'm sorry who I.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Will tell you something that I am not very proud of.
I am not very proud of. But it happened to
me last week. So if I go to a Taco
Bell drive through love Taco Bell, it is completely foreign
to me. I have no idea what is where, I
don't know how I can order what. This is very embarrassing.
(31:04):
Last week I was just craving a fountain drink Mountain.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
That's all just okay, and I just it's It's what
I wanted.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It's great on a hot summer day. It's different than
the can, it's different than the bottle. It's a fountain drink.
But when you look at your fast food providers on
who has coke and who has pepsi products, it is
fewer and fewer that have pepsi.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
So McDonald's, no, they're a coke outlet.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
That's coke out there.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Wendy's they're a coke outlet, of course, And I'm like,
where can I go to get a pepsi? So I
went to Taco Bell because I knew they were in
the pizza hut, you know that Young Brands group, the
whole deal. So I went there and I pulled up
and I got I said, do you guys have fries?
(31:51):
Because I didn't even know where to look, and it
wasn't in any of the pictures of the taco meals.
There was not like two hardshell talks goes and a
fry next to it and a drink. It's just the
tacos and whatever. But so I got fries. And a
drink from Taco Bell. Yes, they're very good. I like them,
(32:12):
And I told my wife, I'm like, I thought about
ordering a taco just to see what it's like.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
But you don't like.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
To see if I would like it, So you don't even.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Know if you like tacos.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
And that's not even real taco d Yeah, I know, correct, Like,
that's not an authentic taco. I don't like to mix food.
That's that's the point of this. I don't like. I
don't like cross pollination on a lot of stuff. I'm
not a huge fan of it. If I have my choice,
I want my mashed potatoes separated from my meat with
the pad of butter on it. If it gets some
(32:43):
of the I don't know, o ju sauce from a
B frost, that's fine, that's fine. But a majority of
the time, I am not a big mixer of foods.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yes, that's why you don't like breakfast burritos. Correct, too
much going on? Yes, much going on?
Speaker 10 (32:59):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But the worst part about this, and you will hear
from Brownie James, people look at you so weird, but
they have no idea on how awful it actually makes
you feel. Like I would. I don't wear it as
a badge of honor, right, It's very embarrassing. One of
my greatest fears was marrying someone and then going over
(33:24):
to their house and eating food that I would not
like and then insulting my in laws right right, And
thank goodness they were they were not insulted when I
tried K bob, which I thought was just hamburger, but
it had all this other stuff inside them. Yeah, it
was not not a thing for me. But yeah, it stinks.
(33:45):
It really stinks. If you're a picky eater like me,
it really stinks, and be like, no thanks, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean, I get it as a vegetarian. When people
offer me things, they're like, you want to know, Like
when I was like, I just I'm sorry, I don't
eat that, you know, so I understand, but don't feel
bad about it.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Don't feel bad about it.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
No, thanks, I'm good. Which one was the real one?
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Which one was the drop?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Well that was the drop that No thanks them, but
it sounded exactly like your draft bill. Thanks, I'm good.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
My favorite part, my favorite part on our regular show
is when Doug has manse on the updates and I
think He's asked her no less than six times what
her favorite hamburger is, what her favorite chicken is, and
every time she tells them that she doesn't eat meat,
And two months later we'll be together again in a
(34:34):
back massie.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
Do you like it's your favorite of hot dogs?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
What's your favorite? How do you eat your pot ROAs?
I don't, thanks, Doug?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
What type of beer you're like?
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (34:44):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I don't know, Doug. I don't drink beer. I don't know,
and I know I'm gonna get sweets. People point out
I'm what a stupid human I am by not eating
tacos and not drinking beer. But it's just one of those,
one of those things.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
It's your life, your life, don't worry. I love a
good steak though, yeah, I mean I did too.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Don't cover it in too much. Just nice. Maybe a
garlic butter on top, yeah, melted over right, maybe a
little marinade.
Speaker 12 (35:12):
But here's the radio conundrum, because you came out in
the first ninety seconds of the hour and you told
the nation I don't eat tacos. At that point, we
can't not address it. At that point, it becomes an
ie ore and we have to get into it.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
So that was that's how that pointed out.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
This is also forty eight hours we're on the heels
of forty eight hours ago. Someone tweeted me called me
an American because and Manzi knows this. I don't hate dogs. Yeah,
dogs are just not the biggest fan of me. I
don't like movies. I don't like condiments. Adding ketchup and mustard.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I don't either. I don't like I have.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I don't drink, And he said Dan Byer on Fox
is the picture of being un American. Let me count
the ways, and he puts six different things down. And
I don't hate dogs. I do cuss, but I don't drink.
I'm not a big movie fan. I don't love condiments.
And I know with my accent sometimes my a's get
(36:16):
out of get out of left field?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Oh good, thank you?
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Is that of the cue to get back to Bronnie
James and hearing by the way, by the way, Yeah, gladly, gladly,
Rob Polenka, Bronnie James, take it away, the newest Lakers
talking today. If you're gonna play the drop, Sam, get
the sound ready for them when I throw it to
it all right, just just play something and get me
(36:44):
out of this conundrum, so America stops hating me. Here's
Bronnie all right.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
You know, I always try to put that narrative of
me trying to get my name out for myself, but
just coming in and trying to get better. You know,
Rob has told me that there's a great element system here,
so I just want to come in and get my
work in and get better every day. But I never
really had a thought of, you know, me going to
play with my dad. But that's always you know, there
(37:12):
to take part of. But that wasn't the main focus.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I'm on it a perfect dancer up until the last
seven seconds. Yeah, the perfect answer, developmental. We've got a
program here. I'm excited to work. But I never gave
the thought that's not true.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Your dad's been talking about this for years.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
That would be on Hollywood Squares, which your Saturday partner
Steve Hartman was on. Once he would say I disagree,
and then you would be like, okay, correct, Yes he did.
He actually did think about it. This has been a
family plan for a long long time.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
Yeah, And I don't see what's wrong in saying that
right at this point, Why why deny that you're there?
And I think more people, I think Adam, you know,
we just spoke to Adam Osland, who is the pre
halftime and post Clippers radio a five seventy guy, and
(38:05):
he talked about how, like the fifty fifth pick in
the last ten years in the NBA hasn't really done
anything and so why are people so up in arms
about it?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
And obviously that has to.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Do a lot with who Lebron James is, who the
Lakers are as a brand. But I think people are
jumping more on the ship of like, Okay, this is cool,
this is happening, even if nepotism is involved. I think
more people are just getting you know, on board with it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
So at this point it's like, why lie.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
At this point you should have just been like, this
has been in the works for a really long time,
and I'm so excited that it actually came to fruition.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I don't even think you have to say that. I
think you could say, you know what, I know, it's
been a dream of my dad's. You know, we would
joke about this playing in the you know, in the
park and stuff like that. Crazy, how an opportunity for
this is able to happen, and I hope to take
full advantage of it.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Maybe you're right, Maybe that's the angle right of saying, like,
I know my dad had and wanting this for a while.
He expressed that to everybody. I didn't think it was
gonna happen, but here I am sure. So just to
make it just that, yeah, that's that's we know, you're cappin, Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
There's a lot of different ways that you could you
could be like, you know, honestly testament to my dad
to be playing this long. Yeah, that allowed me to
even grow up and get to this point to be
able to do this, like it's you know, I'm really
proud of my dad for being able to do like
that would have been. You say that, Yeah, you shut
everybody up right right.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like, don't pretend he's not your dad.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
It almost seems like he wants to separate himself from it,
and it's like, no, now you're here, embrace it, have
fun with it.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yes, yeah, I don't have as much. I don't think
it was the greatest answer for Bronnie. But again, ron
it's new to him. It's new to the game, and
I know he's got the name, but this is going
to take an adjustment period. I do have a problem
with Rob Polinka lying to us though as the Lakers
GM was also there. Oh it's Jado Reddick. Okay, j
j Reddick maybe not telling the whole truth.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Rob and I did not give Bronnie anything. Bronnie has
earned this. Bronnie talks about his hard work. Bronnie has
earned this through hard work, and for us prioritizing player development,
we view Bronnie as like case study one because his
base level of feel, athleticism, point of attack, defender, shooting, passing,
(40:27):
there's a lot to like about his game, and as
we sort of build out our player development program holistically,
he's going to have a great opportunity to become an
excellent NBA player.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Where did you see all this in one year at
USC playing how many minutes?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yes? Correct? I agree with you. I also the fact
of like deserved, right, that's the part like there's there,
It's there's a there, there are there are other people
who maybe deserve it or earn the opportunity like there's
like that's maybe even more so to the point of
(41:07):
getting that opportunity to be taken in the second round
of it. But to sit there and I just for
some reason that just hits my ear so wrong because
it means that the other people that they had considered
didn't deserve it as much as Bronni did. And he
may have done all the work just like everybody else.
(41:28):
But yeah, it's there's nobody again. It just goes back
to the point nobody had him as a the fifty
fifth overall pick. If the Lakers name wasn't next to
that pick, would not have happened.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
No, it would not have happened.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
And we all know that lebron has a very crazy
worth work ethic. We know that what he puts into
his body and how much he cares, So we can't
assume that, you know, Bronni also has a good work
ethic and that he has put in the work and
he has has tried to put himself in a position
(42:02):
to succeed. It's just we haven't seen it because it
all seemed to have happened so fast. So back to
what I said about Bronni's comments, like, JJ, here we are,
it's here, it's happening. Why do we have to keep
pretending about it. I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
We're here, it's happening and stop saying that.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, well that's it's keeping up the charade. Yes, and
this happens.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, but like you cursed in your introductory press conference,
you don't need to keep up any charades.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
But no, but the story to go along. As long
as Lebron's on the team, you're going to still keep
up the story and develop. Like if you're Dalton Connect
and you're sitting right next to him, I can't I
can't figure out if it's a great opportunity for Dalton
Connect because here you are a first round pick, kind
of dropped in the draft. Now you're on a better team.
You're actually under the radar as the other rookie on
the team. Or is it an opportunity where you're like Geez,
(42:55):
I played at you know, this small school, then transferred here,
transferred there, and I became the SEC player of the year.
I'm a first round pick in the NBA and nobody
cares about me because the guy sitting next to me.
Not that this is a Dalton Connect conversation, but it's
just interesting when the second round pick is getting way
more of the conversation than the first round pick, who
is the SEC player of the year.
Speaker 5 (43:15):
This past year, he is definitely getting more of the conversation.
But this could be a good situation for Dalton Connects
because I don't see how the Lakers move forward with
only helping one rookie. I'm assuming Dalton connect is going
to get as much of the attention and focus. We
may not be talking about him, but I assume the
Lakers are going to handle them very hand in hand together.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
That would make sense, would it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
That one guy's twenty three years old and is vastly
more experienced than the nineteen year old kid.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
He's already skyrocketed. Like, we have to see them now
as an equal. Now we have to here we are.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
The Dalton connect story is a story that Jason, what
do you hate?
Speaker 12 (43:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
They couldn't make this up in Hollywood? Isn't that the line?
Speaker 12 (44:00):
One of those things where if you walked into a
script room in Hollywood did throw you out of the room.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
It's so unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Here here, here's a kid who goes to junior college,
then plays D two, then goes to the SEC, becomes
that conference best player, and is a first round pick
of the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
A great story that's that's.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
An amazing story that we are just completely bypassing.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Earned his spot to keep.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Up this this this.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
Facade, facade of what we're going.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
On, Bronnie, there's this is the other part of it
is this is where there could have been people in
Brownie's yere. I really I blame him so little. Yeah,
there is just so little of it. But of just
of like King Man, you want to say this, maybe
you want to say that this will go over well,
and because not only is it yeah, you grow up
the life of lebron James. There's also the difference of
(44:54):
and I know he's been in the spotlight, but I
think this is different. This is professional and you need
that help along the and the people that are in
your camp I don't think are there helping you because
they want the other narrative to continue going.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yeah, definitely, I'm sure somebody told him what to say
or what the questions coming like this is how you
want to answer.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
This is probably the best way to go about it.
I also agree, I.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Don't blame Bronny in a lot of this, if anything
at all, I don't think I do. He is in
this position of privilege and like we would all take
advantage if we could, right, Like I one PC understand that.
I just feel like, now we're here, stop with the charades,
and I think things would go better.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
I think they told them to have fun, but again,
just say that it was never the plan. That's the
advice that I think that they gave to us, and
it was.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
Not good advice, and it was not good advice. I
haven't seen any videos.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
Was Lebron there because all the pictures of stuff I saw,
he seemed to be there.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
I'm curious to know if he was there, because it's like,
you should be there, Lebron.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
I would think I would think that he would.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
I hope. So I hope because that would be another movement.
Speaker 5 (46:04):
It's like, why aren't we Okay, great, Okay, all the
pictures I hadn't seen him, so he was there, Okay, Yeah,
that makes sense, perfect,
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