July 2, 2024 • 37 mins
Dan and Monse filling in for Doug as they discuss the US National Men's Team's ousting from Copa America. Dan and Monse welcome Clippers reporter Adam Auslund onto the show to break down the Paul George departure from the team this week. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes the two through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
As Welcome in on a Tuesday. I know you can't
see the visual right now, but it is not the sun, dude,
there's not the sun. Both Monty and I are wearing orange.
I feel minus is way much more brighter than yours.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yours is. It's a little bit brighter. I don't know
if brighter is.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
The word, but yes, because it's not like a bright orange.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But you're right, yours is a little bit lighter.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
What's funny is everybody, I'm gonna give you a little
backstory here is that yesterday or two days ago, whenever
I Dan was Ryan a pink shirt. I was like, Dan,
I like your shirt, and he's like, oh, I have
an orange one.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was like, yeah, no, not the orange.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I had already bought the orange. He was already purchased.
It was actually in the queue to be worn. At
some point this week, and I wore today, yet I.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Turned I turned it down so fast, and then I walked.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
In and I'm wearing made up this story that she
went out to buy this orange shirt and then it's new.
It was a complete shot at me wearing orange, but
so be it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
No, this is new. I literally took it for man.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I took the tags off today because I also was
like orange.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But then you put it on and you're like, your
shirt is.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Rust it is, this is orange.
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
The way Tirebine should.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Monsey's shirt is the the terra cotta pots that you
would put your plants in it. Yeah. Yeah, that is
exactly the color.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Of a basketball. No, no, I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
But you're right about the bar. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
like that. That's a good one. That's a good one.
All right, let's but we're matching, and that's the point,
and we didn't plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We're gonna try to thank Yeah, We're gonna try to
brighten your day with some great guests. Eric Guinaldo's going
to join us next hour to talk about the US
men's national team and their defeat at the hands of
I try to say as few of consonants as I
can when I sayguay. So I was like, I know
you got to say the G, but I try to
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even skip it. I want all vowels.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Oh, so you're you're trying to say that's that's what
you're trying to say, got it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know that there's like G in there, yes, but
I just like to skip all over it. US falls
and will not advance to the knockout stage of Copa America.
Simon le Bonn is at Wimbledon for those that are wondering,
lead singer of Duran. Duran just needed to throw that
in there. He came up on the screen US loses
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last night. I would love to have this great philosophical
take and maybe Eric Menalda can give us that information.
I'm just I'm just sick of whatever this is. We
are so past the point Manzi of what's popular popularized
soccer like it's very popular. The men's national team has
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a huge audience. If they didn't, it wouldn't be on Fox,
it wouldn't be on FS one. We wouldn't be as invested.
This is a different conversation than it was twenty years ago.
So sitting down and watching a match against Panama like
we did the other night, which by the way, there
was a moment where it looked like the US was cruising.
They had won their first match, they had actually scored
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early against Panama. Then that goal was taken away, then
Tim Waya got a red card, and then it just
seemed to be all absolute downhill from that point since,
and it just feels like more of the sand where
I don't know what's happening. I assume that we need
a new head coach. I assume that these players have
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to step up, But it feels like we have been
in neutral since Eric Lenalda. In the nineteen ninety four
American team broke through when the World Cup was in
the United States, And when you look back at their history, Manci,
you see them advance to the knockout stage in Qatar,
cutter however you want to pronounce it. In twenty twenty two,
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they didn't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen. They
advanced to the knockout stage in the previous two World Cups,
but lost right away. It was only in two thousand
and two where they ended up making it to the
quarterfinals of the World Cup, which is final eight. That's
freaking amazing. But then, why for the last twenty two
years are we just still here? Why hasn't there been
like this amazing run, with this amazing upset, and even
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last night, in imagine they weren't expected to win, they
are still in. And then at the worst most in
the opportunistic time, when the result that you need miles
away ends up happening for that moment, you end up
giving up your own lead, so there's nothing to even
cheer for in a game. I guess I'm just fed
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up because I feel like we've been in the same
place for twenty plus years.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And the reason you're even more fed up is because
the last you know, couple, let's say, the last eight
years or so, we keep hearing that there is a
lot of talent coming out, young talent coming to represent
the men's US Because we already know the women's soccer
team has been dominating for years, and we've wanted the
men to kind of you know, live up to the expectation,
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and we keep hearing young talent, you know, polistic being
a part of the team now, and then they fall flat.
But it's like the talent seems to be there and
I see it, and then you hear other people talking
about it, So why is it that they keep falling flat?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's kind of frustrating.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's like, I don't think they're cruising through the motions,
but you're right, like, what is the point of this
if we keep hearing that this is a talented team
that should be able to get further than we have
in twenty years and then they fall flat on their faces. Now,
the game against Panamak unraveled kind of quickly. Things with
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Tim Waya that just sucked, and not every tournament adds
a suspension because they feel it's egregious, which I think
that was another dark cloud that came over the team
when they found that out. But it's like, why weren't
you prepared? Isn't that don't you feel like they just
weren't prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I just feel that in again, because it's not the
background of the US soccer team that I am fully
invested in. I watch them, I sit down and enjoy it.
I may join a match in the first ten minutes
and made join it in the first twenty minutes, but
I will watch it after that. So whether they look
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prepared or unprepared, honestly, some of it is over my
head and what is actually trying to go on. All
I know is is when I watched the Dallas Cowboys
play football and they beat up on the New York Giants,
and they beat up on the Washington Commanders, and when
they play the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they don't win.
And I feel it's the same exact thing with the
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US men's national team. So whether they're prepared or not, Monty,
I can't answer that. All I know is that at
the end of the matches they usually aren't on top
against a better team or winning a match that maybe
they shouldn't have won. And I believe the stat was
in their last ten matches against top fifteen teams outside
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of Mexico that they are zero five and five, So
they haven't won any of the matches, and we're supposed
to be happy over draws, and that is just it
that to me is frustrating. I would rather have the
roller coaster of the ups and downs and ups and
downs than to go through this ride at thirty five
miles per hour for the past twenty thirty years. I
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can't even answer your question of do they look prepared
do they look not prepared? I always feel that there
are just certain moments in matches where you end up
breaking through. But I do know that when Greg Burhalter
told the team that the Bolivia and Panama match was
tied up at one apiece, that was actually done at
the absolute worst moment in something that you shouldn't do.
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So I can't answer the question about the preparedness, but
just for the fact that they haven't beaten anybody that
is better than them, it drives me absolutely crazy. It's
very Dallas Cowboys ask.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, like you said, at least the Dallas Cowboys are
winning some.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But in the sense I hear what you're saying, I
just wonder, like, how prepared are you are you guys
actually practicing together?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Are we? Do you have a good leader? No, let's
not even what the coach did to give the score of.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The other game.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
At what point in the game did he tell them to.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Score with the sixty third minute?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What was the point of that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I understand, well, we can hope that you were trying
to motivate, but there's no way you thought this is
the time to motivate at this point.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
The only time you should have given the score.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
To that game maybe is at halftime, right, Like, that's
the only time maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I would say, I would say almost if you're in
stoppage time, right or you're depending on what your result
is at the time, knowing that you need to maybe
change something. But there were thirty minutes left in there.
There's thirty minutes left in their man right.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
That was like a desperation move, and a desperation move
in a moment where you didn't need to be in
a desperation move. And if you're a player like and
you are told this score by your coach, I.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Don't know how I would handle that.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I I don't know if you would stop playing as
hard or you would start playing harder.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It just made no sense. It just made no sense.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And the whole game the refs are a separate conversation,
but the referee the refs in the game. Very early on,
it seemed like they were just gonna let them do
whatever they wanted. Both ways, even though I know that
the US team felt that maybe the calls were not
going in their favor, maybe the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
US wasn't the better team. Yeah, they weren't the better
team coming in and they lost. And so that is
also the recipe for refs really screwed us that we
could have won. It's a great excuse maker, but I
don't know if it had anything to do with last
night and the point of telling your team that you
that the other match was tied up at one to one.
I feel that Peralta thought that it was a motivating tactic.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You would hope so, right, But that's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The problem is you shouldn't need to motivate your team
sixty five minutes into what feels like a must win
match that should have been done in minute one. That like,
your team should have been motivated at that point. If
you are changing strategy for how things are being played,
that's fine. But at that point, when it was one
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pint one, you're still zero zero, where a loss kills you.
It's not like Bolivia was running away against Panama. All
Bolivia did was pull even and then we find out
Panama scores again, scores again, ends up winning three to one.
Later on. But it's such a knee jerk reaction. That is,
it's awful as leadership because you're trying to motivate. It's
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also just awful as a tactician and how you're going
to set up the next thirty minutes of your match,
because then it's giving a message to your team we
are going to be playing a different way. And I
don't think that you can do that with thirty minutes
left in the match when Bolivia is not expected to
beat Panama. At that point, I think you still have
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to go and try to win the match, and especially
when you're the underdog in this match against Uruguay, so
maybe their only thinking is we'll advance if we draw,
and then they draw in that other match. It's the
only way to do it. That still, to tell your
team at that point is way too early. It's like
Tiger Wood's looking at the leader board with fourteen holes
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left to play, maybe even ten holes left to play.
At some point you kind of have to have an idea,
But when you have an entire third of the match
to go, its just it's just seems like awful on leadership,
awful on being a tactician.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And That's what I mean about. It didn't seem like
they were prepared. It didn't seem like they had a
good game plan going into that game.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And you shouldn't have been happy with the draw.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Like you said everything you just said, Dan, you just
hit it right on the nose, Like it seemed like
they were okay with the draw.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How are you okay with that? You needed to win
that game.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And also, if you would have won, you still didn't
have tim waya the next game. You needed to play
your best to take that momentum into the next game.
And it just seems like there was no order, there
was no leadership. I like that you use that word
to me. I was like, it just didn't seem like
they were prepared for the game. And who does that
land on?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That lands on? Yeah? Greg Burholter, right head coach Alexi Laalas,
had a lot to say after the match on Fox
Sports One. Here's what the analyst and former World Cup
star had to say about this US men's national team.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I think what we have learned over these cycles is
that this team is not able to do anything better
than is done in.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The past, and that that hurts.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
That hurts to say if this is as good as
it gets, it's not good enough. And there's plenty of excuses,
but they don't matter.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
You can talk about opportunities, Well, we have players that
are playing all over the world, talk about playing in Europe. Well,
the entire team that you saw out there plays in Europe.
So it's not MLS's fault. You can talk about, you know,
the pathways and the resources that they have. No generation
has been given more, and yet this generation hasn't lived
up to that bargain, live up to it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And he's right. It's the same old story. We watched
an NFL season where on Christmas Day the Raiders went
into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs, something that I
didn't necessarily expect to happen, but it did. What are
the Kansas City Chiefs do? They went on and they
won the Super Bowl. Okay, but guess what. As a
Raiders fan, Christmas was awesome. It may not have been great,
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but there was something down the line, bigger for you,
something that was there. This is the same thing over
and over again, watching this hoping for Clint Demse or
Landon Donovan to save the day and then maybe just
cross your fingers that you'll be able to win a
match in the knockout stage. That's what the past was.
Now you're hoping that this new generation is able to
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advance and do something more. And by the way, they
have got us invested. And it's not to rain on
the Copa America because it's a very big tournament. But
it's not even like we're doing this after a World
Cup conversation. We're like doing this in advance of the
World Cup that's coming in two years to the United States,
and so now time is running out for the success
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that you want to have there. That's a good conversation
to have. That also tells you that soccer has grown
to the point where it's being talked about at this point.
But I think a lot of us are sick of it,
even if we're diehards or we're casual fans. Just win
games that you're not supposed to when matches that you're
not supposed to make them exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yes, give us something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I just I couldn't imagine this is what the Cowboys
have been dealing with for twenty years really, and maybe
even more thirty years if you want. For that fact
and I feel that the US men's national team is
on a similar road. They get beat up on all
the you know, the have nots, but when it comes
down to it and you need to win, they can't
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come up big in the clutch. And that's just completely
I wish I had a great soccer you know, analytic
take on all of this. I don't. All I know
is that it sucked that they're not moving on and
that we're not gonna watch them play again, and we're
gonna see eight other countries in the knockout stage. We
might also just cheer for Canada now, I mean, they
at least made it. They made it through.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
And also like the way it just ended, It's like
you just it just felt it fell flat watching them.
There was no excitement because I think like even with
a loss, if we would have seen a different game plan,
we maybe wouldn't be as frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Sure, but you lost three two.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get exactly. If they lost three two,
I think we would feel a little bit different. But
the way it ended it was rough. I mean not
to bring up Costa Rica and Brazil again, but remember
how happy I was about a scoreless draw, because that
was exciting for us. This was not exciting for US
men's soccer in any way.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
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and covers the team for a five seventy LA Sports.
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and Adam Austin joins the show on this Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, Adam.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
How are you happy? Brownie James Press Conference Day? Thanks
for having me on.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, we are going to ask you all things LA
basketball at some point, but we do have to start
with the team that you are connected to. If you
were to say, right now, life without Paul George and
the other moves that the Clippers made, how does the
future of the Clippers look compared to what we've had
to deal with over the past couple of years.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
All right now, it looks like they're trying to make
up for the loss of Paul George by constructing a
more defensive oriented roster. Here basically, you remember the movie
Moneyball and they're talking about losing Jason Giomby, and you
can't make up for that one place, but you could
do it in an aggregate if you put the right
players on the roster that work and defensively. The last
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seventy games of last season, the Clippers were twenty first defensively.
People might be surprised by that, but it is true.
They were just in god mode on an offensive end,
so it didn't matter. But now they have to right
that wrong because they're not going to have Paul George.
They're not going to be as good offensively. How do
you get better? You improve defensively. So you bring in
Nicholas Batoom, You bring in Derek Jones Junior, you bring
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in Chris Dunn. I'm hoping Mobamba can help them a
little bit too. I don't mind the moves they have
made so far. It's a scramble, it has to be.
I know they were prepared for this though on some level,
because they were at a stalemate for months. This was
not unexpected for most of the people that followed the
situation going on with the Clippers and Paul George.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Hi, Adam, thanks for joining us, Rosie. At what point do.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You think the team knew that Paul George was not returning.
You were there up close and personal. Legit thought he
was going to return up until he didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think it was who was going to blink first,
and they really didn't know till Saturday when they put
out that press or after they met with Paul George
one more time. To have that last meeting was interesting
to me because they have been discussions before the All
Star break and then they wanted to table it. But
it really came down to whether or not Paul George
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had a max offer out there. I think if all
things were equal, if he could get the same money
from Philadelphia as the Clippers, he'd still be a Clipper.
They didn't want to give him that fourth year. He
ended up getting about sixty two million more dollars at
least being a member of the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
and to his credit, he was entertaining. It sounded like
from the report earlier today for Romona Shelbourne going to
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the Golden State Warriors just so the Clippers would get
something out of losing him. Here. Now they get cap releave,
and they've made moves that they wouldn't have been able to
make if they had Paul George and the roster still.
But this is something where I think both sides were
so dug in, and I don't blame either side in
this situation. I know a lot of Clipper Nation they've
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kind of soured on Paul George to a degree, or
they're immediately flipping on him now that he has left. Look,
if you're an athlete, you got five, ten or fifteen years,
if you're lucky to make the majority of the money
you're going to make in your life, get as much
as you can. I never hold it against a guy
for going for the back, And on the Clipper side,
they were going to hold firm on not giving up
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that fourth year because they still to pay James Harden.
They already paid Kawhi Leonard. They've been in deep obviously
with the two to one three era, and they didn't
want to be paying a thirty eight year old guy
sixty million on the back end of his contract, which
is what the Philadelphia Sixers are going to be ending
up doing with Paul George.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, Adam, I'm part of that Clipper nation that you
just said has flipped on Paul George, because how can
we not flip on him?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We literally gave up so much for you.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
You tell us you don't want to go anywhere, you
don't want to leave, and then you haven't delivered for
the Clippers to give you a max four year contract.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It wasn't like we were giving him pennies.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And then the way he goes out with his podcast
partner tweeting those tweets the Clippers suck anyway and then
deleting it, how does he not leave a bad taste
in our mouths?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, look, I hope Dallas Rutherford on the podcast, and
I did respond back to that saying.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I man, life, you don't you don't.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Burn Bridges on the way out. This isn't how you
treat an organization. I don't think he was speaking for
Paul George. I think he knew that by the fact
that he had to delete those tweets afterwards. Of course,
nothing has ever scrubbed off the Internet, and people will
always refer back to that, and he even tried to
walk them back, saying no, it was just a joke,
saying the Clippers suck. But he went after Kawhi Leonard.
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He said at least Kawhi Lennard was available, or at
least Paul George was available for that first round series
against the Dallas Mavericks because somebody criticized Paul George's play.
I don't like that stuff, but I'm gonna wait to
hear from Paul George because I do think he is
going to thank the fans. And while you can make
the argument that James Harden took less, that Kawhi Leonard
took less, he's not obligated to take any less. And
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I think professional athletes, look, you can say he's made
all this money already. It's their prerogative how much money
they want to make. And if there's a contract out
there to make over sixty two more million, more dollars.
I'm not going to complain about that. I just that's
my stance. That's how I've always been with athletes. And
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I love Paul George and I'm not gonna say he's
the enemy now or anything like that. It was unfortunate
that they never got it done and the era overall
has been a failure and his disappointment. But the majority
of that has been because of things outside of their control,
because of all the injuries on the court. When those
two were together, they had a seven hundred win percentage.
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They were great when they could actually be out there together.
Problem was there wasn't enough of that. Paul George missed
one hundred and thirty three games, Kawhi Leonard has missed
one hundred and seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Is a Clipper crazy?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Those those numbers are absurd now, Adams being logical, I
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Adam molls and joining us here at Fox Sports Radio
pre and post game show, host of the Clippers broadcast
on a M five to seventy LA Sports. Joining us
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I got one more Clippers question. A lot of teams
in the NBA if they were opening a new arena,
would want a team ready made for the opening of
that arena. This almost feels like the opposite for how
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you laid out what the Clippers are doing. Is Is
it because Steve Balmer just has all the money in
the world and it doesn't matter? But what do you
think that there was any thought process in trying to
form this team a certain way as they enter into
their home coming up this fall.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, I think they wanted Paul George back under the
right terms, and Paul George wanted to be back if
the price was right, because they were the most competitive
team possible, like it looked like they had during that
twenty six and five stretch last season where everybody said
they were the best team in the league. But of
course it was Kawhi Leonard having the knee swell up
on him. He barely was able to play in the
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playoff series, look like a shell of himself. Those big
three that they had acquired with James Harden coming over
last season, it worked. It was very good on the court,
and the Clippers wanted to keep that together, but it
had to be under the right structure because of the
second apron now in the salary cap. It has teams
in hell, everybody is in fear of this. Just for example,
a couple of just the punitative penalties that come down
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on you. If you're above that second apron, you could
have first round picks frozen seven years out that you
can't trade. And then if you're over the second apron
three times out of five years, that first round pick
it goes to the back of the line. You're thirtieth.
You can't aggregate trades if you're above the second apron,
meaning you want a guy that makes thirty million dollars
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from another squad, you have two guys that make fifteen
million dollars, you can't combine them to trade for that
one player. So it makes everything so restrictive and difficult.
It's a brave new world for front offices right now
in the NBA is trying to navigate and finesse the
new salary cap. So I completely understand the Clippers logic
in this. And they still have two top seventy five
(25:10):
players ever that are going to be there opening night
at into a Dome with what I think is going
to be a competitive roster still and a much better
defense than they had.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Last season, just wondering your thought, my last Clipper question.
You know a lot of fans out there wondering was
this worth it? Would you still sign PG thirteen knowing
that this was going to be the outcome.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I say, yes, I still would have done it.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
You're saying going back to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Months, correct, Yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Is revisionist history. And it bothers me to no end
when I have to respond to this stuff on Twitter constantly,
and I see the evil four letter without any context.
Throw up what the Clippers got and Paul George and
the five first round picks they gave up an SGA
to the OKC thunder, as if they would have done
(26:01):
that if they weren't getting Kawhi Leonard. Also, I know
technically he wasn't involved in the trade, but he was
a free agent, and the reason they trained for Paul
George was to get Kawhi Leonard, who was just coming
off winning Finals MVP in twenty nineteen and everybody said
he's the best player in the world. Oh, by the way,
Paul George was just top three in MVP voting and
(26:22):
Defensive Player of the Year voting that season. I didn't
hear any of this nonsense. At the time, we knew
there were some injury concerns. Nobody could have foreseen this,
and nobody said that SGA had MVP potential. They said
his ceiling was an All Star. I got a pretty
damn good memory, and that was all the opinions back
(26:45):
then from everybody on Twitter and all the NBA analysts,
And now they want to go back in time and say,
how could the Clippers have done this well? At the time,
everybody had him with the odds on favorite. So if
every GM in the history of basketball would have made
that move, I'm going to say it probably the right
move that just ended up not working out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Zanna Maslin joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
She's Monte Blanio. So I'm Dan Byer. I have a
different take about an LA basketball team or question. That
would be the Lakers. You mentioned it's Bronnie James introduction day.
We've seen the pictures popping up him and Dalton Cannext
standing side by side. My question is this, will the
(27:23):
Laker fans fully embrace Bronnie James, because I'm not sure
they actually have done that with lebron Will it happen
with his son now in the Purple and gold Well.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I was gonna say, the ones who defaced Murals when
Lebron came over, the ones who are ardent Kobe defenders
and never won Lebron James. Of course, they're always gonna
hate Bronni as well, since of the father type self,
so to speak. I just I can't understand, for the
life of me, why anyone would care this much about
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a team taking a pick at or taking a flyer
on a pick fifty five if it matters. I've gone
back ten years the last ten players taking it pick
fifty five. One of them is still in the league,
Aaron Wiggins, who just got paid by OKC. The rest
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are playing in East Asia, Serbia and Kuwait. I'm not kidding.
Those are the results, and that's nothing out of the ordinary.
At the end of the second round, you were just
trying to hit a home run and maybe get Nikola Jokic,
who was still drafted during a Taco Bell commercial going on.
Nobody knows what the hell these guys are going to
turn out to be. And I'm old enough to remember
(28:37):
when draft Express and other outlets a couple of years ago,
when BROWNI was still in high school them saying he's
trending to be a lottery pick. I'm old enough to
remember him having fifteen points and looking the part in
the McDonald's All American Game. So some of this is
a lot of recency biased because of how things went
(28:58):
at USC and because obviously the heart condition. I understand
a little bit of the backlash, but to take it
to this point with a player who's not going to
define the Lakers season or change their championship expectations. In
my mind either way, it's just much ado about nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I like everything you just said, Adam, but more importantly,
coming up next season, who wins the series between the
Lakers and the Clippers.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Oh, I know where my bread is buttered. I mean
the Clippers could be taken on the ninety two Dream Team,
and I'm going to say the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's right, Adam.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Come on, come on, too easy, Manty.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
This has been fun. We got to do it again, Adam.
We love your insight, we love your energy. We can't
wait for the NBA season to actually start playing and
playing out, and when that happens, we'll ivey on again.
Appreciate it, man, Appreciate you guys have a good show.
Adam Awsin. He's the pre and post game show host
for the Clippers on a five seventy. LA Sports covers
(30:00):
the NBA and the Clippers specifically for the station as well.
She's Manti Bologho. So I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. This on the
heels of Simon Lebond being at Wimbledon. Playing a little
Duran Duran. She's Manti Bologno, So I'm Dan Byer. I
do love Ordinary World, Dude. That's a great, great song.
Love a lot of Duran Duran stuff. I just thought maybe, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Know, it's just not what I thought we were gonna
go back.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You thought it would be Reflex. That's my Reflex Flex
Max Max black Box. Oh good, Iowa. Sam's here, so
is Jason Stewart. Isaac Loncrown is going to have a
game for us in about sixty seconds or so. But
you feel that Major League Baseball had quite the moment
last night that we are talking about.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah, I don't understand how when a batter hits for
the cycle it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Why Att Langford just did it for the Texas Rangers.
He's also a rookie.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Uh So it's the first cycle of the year and
they're just as rare as a no hitter.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And I don't get how we don't get excited about it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And this O, this is Sunday, this is some time spoke.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, yeah, but it just it just happened, and literally
nobody cares. And it bothers me that we don't care
about hitting for the cycle.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
When it's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
See, I don't think people care as much about no
hitters anymore. I think that they have become more common.
We've had combo no hitters. The reason why I don't
think that people care about the cycle as much is
because at least if you have a no hitter, there's
some OCD of excellence with the other team got zero,
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like they got zero hits. There was zero hits the cycle.
I would actually say that the ultimate hitting game is
four home runs in a game you just went yard
every single time. Where this is a little bit of this,
a little bit of that and a little bit of
this sin a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Right which a lot of things have to happen for
you to get a little bit of this and a
little bit of that, the same thing with a no nose.
So I agree with you that no nos maybe aren't
as impressive anymore, but I think it has to do
more because they're combined no hitters that we hear about
lately as the way pitching has progressed in baseball. But
this is not an easy thing to do, getting a triple.
And that was his first hit in the fourth inning,
a triple, and then he went on in the fifth
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and sixth inning.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And then hit a home run. A rookie like, what,
don't look at me like that, Dan Well.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I always laughed when the guy would have a single
double in a home run, They're like, all he needs
is a triple, which is the hardest one. Yeah, and
you're like, well, he's not going to get it, And
there are times it has happened.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
But and you know, this guy hit a triple in
the fourth inning. Nobody was like, oh, he's on his
way to the cycle. Nobody thought that, and then he
he did. I don't know, I'm very like shocked that
more people are not as excited.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think if you get the triple, you are automatically
in contention for the cycle. If you get it early
enough that now because the other stuff happens a lot
easier now for a.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Rookie, you're not thinking you're gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Isaac low and Crown's here with the game.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
This is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
He always hits for the cycle when he's with us.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Say hit for the cycle or hit for the psycho. Honestly,
could go either way there, all right, save a prayer
for Dan and Monson. This game won't come ondone rank
them all right? With the Boston Celtics in the news
because the defending newly crowned World champions will now be sold,
I want you to rank pro sports teams you would
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most like to buy, assuming, of course, money was no object.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right, I'm sorry. The Yankees have to be Numero.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Uno, right, I could.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I'm with that that location history fan base.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yes, I'm into it, valueval the whole thing. I like
that one, even the like the like.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I would rather have a ballpark than a football stadium,
and I know like you could probably do more. You
can have soccer matches in a football stadium, but I
would rather have New Yankee Stadium than AT and T Stadium,
which is Jerry's world in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh yeah, oh yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Now I'm thinking here, location and what would I want?
Right I would probably probably pick a basketball team. I'm
not gonna put the clickbers because that's the obvious answer
that I really would.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think I would buy like the Miami Heat. Location. Location, location,
really in a good history.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
If we're talking right now, Eric Spolstra, I would buy
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
I'd buy that for a dollar, thank you for.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
A dollar and a half.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I do think the Cowboys need to be on this list.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah I knew the but you know that was an
obvious answer.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sure, we're get Heat Cowboys. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Those are one, two, three, By the way, and Eric
Spolstra footnote, my mom thinks that Eric Spolster is hot.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So does my mom in the same Watch.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Out Eric next time, next time you're in town for
a road trip to play the Lakers. Well you mentioned
Jerry Jones along those lines. I want you guys to
rank the most powerful people in sports.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
He is, he is, he is.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Nuno he is number one powerful.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man in the most powerful league. Yes, because he also
runs the puppet strings of Roger Goodell, who was probably
the second most powerful considering who he represents.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I've been thinking about it a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Shows gracious, I think those are easy one too. And
then based on what's going on in the world right now,
would we say Lebron, Yeah, Lebron James yeah, right, yes,
but I agree Jerry.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Jones at the top.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
And finally, I want you to rank the best uniforms
in sports, current or past, pro, college whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm gonna tell you which uniform I love and I
hate that. I love it, I really do.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
But the San Diego City connect Jersey with the like
pink and green and very Miami looking.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I love them, but I can never wear that. It's
a padre.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, it's funny about Miami. There are other large people
contingent of people in southern California that hate South Florida, yeah,
and hate that. But Moncey is all about it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I started running down NFL uniforms. I think the Bears
Navy uniform like as a whole is just with their
navy jerseys and white pants, like it's so classic, clean. Yes,
I think the Cowboys whites are great. People love the Packers,
the Niners. Red and gold is pretty strong too. In
terms of just the traditional uniform, those would be my top.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But I think I would pick the Bears. I'm with
you on the Bears.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
All right, and that's game time. Thank you very much, Isaac.
She's Moncey, I'm Dan. People are calling the Clippers in
absolute failure. Those people are wrong. I'll tell you why
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
As Welcome in on a Tuesday. I know you can't
see the visual right now, but it is not the sun, dude,
there's not the sun. Both Monty and I are wearing orange.
I feel minus is way much more brighter than yours.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yours is. It's a little bit brighter. I don't know
if brighter is.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
The word, but yes, because it's not like a bright orange.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
But you're right, yours is a little bit lighter.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
What's funny is everybody, I'm gonna give you a little
backstory here is that yesterday or two days ago, whenever
I Dan was Ryan a pink shirt. I was like, Dan,
I like your shirt, and he's like, oh, I have
an orange one.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I was like, yeah, no, not the orange.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I had already bought the orange. He was already purchased.
It was actually in the queue to be worn. At
some point this week, and I wore today, yet I.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Turned I turned it down so fast, and then I walked.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
In and I'm wearing made up this story that she
went out to buy this orange shirt and then it's new.
It was a complete shot at me wearing orange, but
so be it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
No, this is new. I literally took it for man.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I took the tags off today because I also was
like orange.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
But then you put it on and you're like, your
shirt is.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Rust it is, this is orange.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
The way Tirebine should.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Monsey's shirt is the the terra cotta pots that you
would put your plants in it. Yeah. Yeah, that is
exactly the color.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Of a basketball. No, no, I like that.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
But you're right about the bar. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
like that. That's a good one. That's a good one.
All right, let's but we're matching, and that's the point,
and we didn't plan it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
We're gonna try to thank Yeah, We're gonna try to
brighten your day with some great guests. Eric Guinaldo's going
to join us next hour to talk about the US
men's national team and their defeat at the hands of
I try to say as few of consonants as I
can when I sayguay. So I was like, I know
you got to say the G, but I try to
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even skip it. I want all vowels.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Gotcha.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Oh, so you're you're trying to say that's that's what
you're trying to say, got it.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know that there's like G in there, yes, but
I just like to skip all over it. US falls
and will not advance to the knockout stage of Copa America.
Simon le Bonn is at Wimbledon for those that are wondering,
lead singer of Duran. Duran just needed to throw that
in there. He came up on the screen US loses
(02:59):
last night. I would love to have this great philosophical
take and maybe Eric Menalda can give us that information.
I'm just I'm just sick of whatever this is. We
are so past the point Manzi of what's popular popularized
soccer like it's very popular. The men's national team has
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a huge audience. If they didn't, it wouldn't be on Fox,
it wouldn't be on FS one. We wouldn't be as invested.
This is a different conversation than it was twenty years ago.
So sitting down and watching a match against Panama like
we did the other night, which by the way, there
was a moment where it looked like the US was cruising.
They had won their first match, they had actually scored
(03:46):
early against Panama. Then that goal was taken away, then
Tim Waya got a red card, and then it just
seemed to be all absolute downhill from that point since,
and it just feels like more of the sand where
I don't know what's happening. I assume that we need
a new head coach. I assume that these players have
(04:08):
to step up, But it feels like we have been
in neutral since Eric Lenalda. In the nineteen ninety four
American team broke through when the World Cup was in
the United States, And when you look back at their history, Manci,
you see them advance to the knockout stage in Qatar,
cutter however you want to pronounce it. In twenty twenty two,
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they didn't make the World Cup in twenty eighteen. They
advanced to the knockout stage in the previous two World Cups,
but lost right away. It was only in two thousand
and two where they ended up making it to the
quarterfinals of the World Cup, which is final eight. That's
freaking amazing. But then, why for the last twenty two
years are we just still here? Why hasn't there been
like this amazing run, with this amazing upset, and even
(04:53):
last night, in imagine they weren't expected to win, they
are still in. And then at the worst most in
the opportunistic time, when the result that you need miles
away ends up happening for that moment, you end up
giving up your own lead, so there's nothing to even
cheer for in a game. I guess I'm just fed
(05:14):
up because I feel like we've been in the same
place for twenty plus years.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
And the reason you're even more fed up is because
the last you know, couple, let's say, the last eight
years or so, we keep hearing that there is a
lot of talent coming out, young talent coming to represent
the men's US Because we already know the women's soccer
team has been dominating for years, and we've wanted the
men to kind of you know, live up to the expectation,
(05:40):
and we keep hearing young talent, you know, polistic being
a part of the team now, and then they fall flat.
But it's like the talent seems to be there and
I see it, and then you hear other people talking
about it, So why is it that they keep falling flat?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
It's kind of frustrating.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's like, I don't think they're cruising through the motions,
but you're right, like, what is the point of this
if we keep hearing that this is a talented team
that should be able to get further than we have
in twenty years and then they fall flat on their faces. Now,
the game against Panamak unraveled kind of quickly. Things with
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Tim Waya that just sucked, and not every tournament adds
a suspension because they feel it's egregious, which I think
that was another dark cloud that came over the team
when they found that out. But it's like, why weren't
you prepared? Isn't that don't you feel like they just
weren't prepared?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I just feel that in again, because it's not the
background of the US soccer team that I am fully
invested in. I watch them, I sit down and enjoy it.
I may join a match in the first ten minutes
and made join it in the first twenty minutes, but
I will watch it after that. So whether they look
(06:57):
prepared or unprepared, honestly, some of it is over my
head and what is actually trying to go on. All
I know is is when I watched the Dallas Cowboys
play football and they beat up on the New York Giants,
and they beat up on the Washington Commanders, and when
they play the San Francisco forty nine Ers, they don't win.
And I feel it's the same exact thing with the
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US men's national team. So whether they're prepared or not, Monty,
I can't answer that. All I know is that at
the end of the matches they usually aren't on top
against a better team or winning a match that maybe
they shouldn't have won. And I believe the stat was
in their last ten matches against top fifteen teams outside
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of Mexico that they are zero five and five, So
they haven't won any of the matches, and we're supposed
to be happy over draws, and that is just it
that to me is frustrating. I would rather have the
roller coaster of the ups and downs and ups and
downs than to go through this ride at thirty five
miles per hour for the past twenty thirty years. I
(08:00):
can't even answer your question of do they look prepared
do they look not prepared? I always feel that there
are just certain moments in matches where you end up
breaking through. But I do know that when Greg Burhalter
told the team that the Bolivia and Panama match was
tied up at one apiece, that was actually done at
the absolute worst moment in something that you shouldn't do.
(08:20):
So I can't answer the question about the preparedness, but
just for the fact that they haven't beaten anybody that
is better than them, it drives me absolutely crazy. It's
very Dallas Cowboys ask.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well, like you said, at least the Dallas Cowboys are
winning some.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
But in the sense I hear what you're saying, I
just wonder, like, how prepared are you are you guys
actually practicing together?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Are we? Do you have a good leader? No, let's
not even what the coach did to give the score of.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
The other game.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
At what point in the game did he tell them to.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Score with the sixty third minute?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
What was the point of that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I understand, well, we can hope that you were trying
to motivate, but there's no way you thought this is
the time to motivate at this point.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
The only time you should have given the score.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
To that game maybe is at halftime, right, Like, that's
the only time maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I would say, I would say almost if you're in
stoppage time, right or you're depending on what your result
is at the time, knowing that you need to maybe
change something. But there were thirty minutes left in there.
There's thirty minutes left in their man right.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
That was like a desperation move, and a desperation move
in a moment where you didn't need to be in
a desperation move. And if you're a player like and
you are told this score by your coach, I.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Don't know how I would handle that.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
I I don't know if you would stop playing as
hard or you would start playing harder.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It just made no sense. It just made no sense.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And the whole game the refs are a separate conversation,
but the referee the refs in the game. Very early on,
it seemed like they were just gonna let them do
whatever they wanted. Both ways, even though I know that
the US team felt that maybe the calls were not
going in their favor, maybe the.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
US wasn't the better team. Yeah, they weren't the better
team coming in and they lost. And so that is
also the recipe for refs really screwed us that we
could have won. It's a great excuse maker, but I
don't know if it had anything to do with last
night and the point of telling your team that you
that the other match was tied up at one to one.
I feel that Peralta thought that it was a motivating tactic.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You would hope so, right, But that's.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The problem is you shouldn't need to motivate your team
sixty five minutes into what feels like a must win
match that should have been done in minute one. That like,
your team should have been motivated at that point. If
you are changing strategy for how things are being played,
that's fine. But at that point, when it was one
(10:45):
pint one, you're still zero zero, where a loss kills you.
It's not like Bolivia was running away against Panama. All
Bolivia did was pull even and then we find out
Panama scores again, scores again, ends up winning three to one.
Later on. But it's such a knee jerk reaction. That is,
it's awful as leadership because you're trying to motivate. It's
(11:08):
also just awful as a tactician and how you're going
to set up the next thirty minutes of your match,
because then it's giving a message to your team we
are going to be playing a different way. And I
don't think that you can do that with thirty minutes
left in the match when Bolivia is not expected to
beat Panama. At that point, I think you still have
(11:30):
to go and try to win the match, and especially
when you're the underdog in this match against Uruguay, so
maybe their only thinking is we'll advance if we draw,
and then they draw in that other match. It's the
only way to do it. That still, to tell your
team at that point is way too early. It's like
Tiger Wood's looking at the leader board with fourteen holes
(11:50):
left to play, maybe even ten holes left to play.
At some point you kind of have to have an idea,
But when you have an entire third of the match
to go, its just it's just seems like awful on leadership,
awful on being a tactician.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And That's what I mean about. It didn't seem like
they were prepared. It didn't seem like they had a
good game plan going into that game.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
And you shouldn't have been happy with the draw.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Like you said everything you just said, Dan, you just
hit it right on the nose, Like it seemed like
they were okay with the draw.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
How are you okay with that? You needed to win
that game.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
And also, if you would have won, you still didn't
have tim waya the next game. You needed to play
your best to take that momentum into the next game.
And it just seems like there was no order, there
was no leadership. I like that you use that word
to me. I was like, it just didn't seem like
they were prepared for the game. And who does that
land on?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That lands on? Yeah? Greg Burholter, right head coach Alexi Laalas,
had a lot to say after the match on Fox
Sports One. Here's what the analyst and former World Cup
star had to say about this US men's national team.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
I think what we have learned over these cycles is
that this team is not able to do anything better
than is done in.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
The past, and that that hurts.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
That hurts to say if this is as good as
it gets, it's not good enough. And there's plenty of excuses,
but they don't matter.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
You can talk about opportunities, Well, we have players that
are playing all over the world, talk about playing in Europe. Well,
the entire team that you saw out there plays in Europe.
So it's not MLS's fault. You can talk about, you know,
the pathways and the resources that they have. No generation
has been given more, and yet this generation hasn't lived
up to that bargain, live up to it.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And he's right. It's the same old story. We watched
an NFL season where on Christmas Day the Raiders went
into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs, something that I
didn't necessarily expect to happen, but it did. What are
the Kansas City Chiefs do? They went on and they
won the Super Bowl. Okay, but guess what. As a
Raiders fan, Christmas was awesome. It may not have been great,
(14:01):
but there was something down the line, bigger for you,
something that was there. This is the same thing over
and over again, watching this hoping for Clint Demse or
Landon Donovan to save the day and then maybe just
cross your fingers that you'll be able to win a
match in the knockout stage. That's what the past was.
Now you're hoping that this new generation is able to
(14:23):
advance and do something more. And by the way, they
have got us invested. And it's not to rain on
the Copa America because it's a very big tournament. But
it's not even like we're doing this after a World
Cup conversation. We're like doing this in advance of the
World Cup that's coming in two years to the United States,
and so now time is running out for the success
(14:46):
that you want to have there. That's a good conversation
to have. That also tells you that soccer has grown
to the point where it's being talked about at this point.
But I think a lot of us are sick of it,
even if we're diehards or we're casual fans. Just win
games that you're not supposed to when matches that you're
not supposed to make them exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yes, give us something to look forward to.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I just I couldn't imagine this is what the Cowboys
have been dealing with for twenty years really, and maybe
even more thirty years if you want. For that fact
and I feel that the US men's national team is
on a similar road. They get beat up on all
the you know, the have nots, but when it comes
down to it and you need to win, they can't
(15:25):
come up big in the clutch. And that's just completely
I wish I had a great soccer you know, analytic
take on all of this. I don't. All I know
is that it sucked that they're not moving on and
that we're not gonna watch them play again, and we're
gonna see eight other countries in the knockout stage. We
might also just cheer for Canada now, I mean, they
at least made it. They made it through.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
And also like the way it just ended, It's like
you just it just felt it fell flat watching them.
There was no excitement because I think like even with
a loss, if we would have seen a different game plan,
we maybe wouldn't be as frustrated.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Sure, but you lost three two.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get exactly. If they lost three two,
I think we would feel a little bit different. But
the way it ended it was rough. I mean not
to bring up Costa Rica and Brazil again, but remember
how happy I was about a scoreless draw, because that
was exciting for us. This was not exciting for US
men's soccer in any way.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
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Speaker 2 (16:36):
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Tirech dot Com Studios or Buddy. Adam Allslon's going to
join us in a sac giving us the latest of
what's happening in the NBA. In about ten minutes or so,
Manti's gonna fill us in on some baseball. Not history
last night, but something that happened that no one is
talking about, but maybe, just maybe they should be. Yes,
(17:02):
hit them up on x at follow Adam A's the
pre and post game show host of the LA Clippers
and covers the team for a five seventy LA Sports.
She's Monte Blanios. I'm Dan byer In for Doug Gottlieb
and Adam Austin joins the show on this Tuesday. Happy Tuesday, Adam.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
How are you happy? Brownie James Press Conference Day? Thanks
for having me on.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yes, we are going to ask you all things LA
basketball at some point, but we do have to start
with the team that you are connected to. If you
were to say, right now, life without Paul George and
the other moves that the Clippers made, how does the
future of the Clippers look compared to what we've had
to deal with over the past couple of years.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
All right now, it looks like they're trying to make
up for the loss of Paul George by constructing a
more defensive oriented roster. Here basically, you remember the movie
Moneyball and they're talking about losing Jason Giomby, and you
can't make up for that one place, but you could
do it in an aggregate if you put the right
players on the roster that work and defensively. The last
(18:06):
seventy games of last season, the Clippers were twenty first defensively.
People might be surprised by that, but it is true.
They were just in god mode on an offensive end,
so it didn't matter. But now they have to right
that wrong because they're not going to have Paul George.
They're not going to be as good offensively. How do
you get better? You improve defensively. So you bring in
Nicholas Batoom, You bring in Derek Jones Junior, you bring
(18:28):
in Chris Dunn. I'm hoping Mobamba can help them a
little bit too. I don't mind the moves they have
made so far. It's a scramble, it has to be.
I know they were prepared for this though on some level,
because they were at a stalemate for months. This was
not unexpected for most of the people that followed the
situation going on with the Clippers and Paul George.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Hi, Adam, thanks for joining us, Rosie. At what point do.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You think the team knew that Paul George was not returning.
You were there up close and personal. Legit thought he
was going to return up until he didn't.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I think it was who was going to blink first,
and they really didn't know till Saturday when they put
out that press or after they met with Paul George
one more time. To have that last meeting was interesting
to me because they have been discussions before the All
Star break and then they wanted to table it. But
it really came down to whether or not Paul George
(19:25):
had a max offer out there. I think if all
things were equal, if he could get the same money
from Philadelphia as the Clippers, he'd still be a Clipper.
They didn't want to give him that fourth year. He
ended up getting about sixty two million more dollars at
least being a member of the Philadelphia seventy six ers,
and to his credit, he was entertaining. It sounded like
from the report earlier today for Romona Shelbourne going to
(19:48):
the Golden State Warriors just so the Clippers would get
something out of losing him. Here. Now they get cap releave,
and they've made moves that they wouldn't have been able to
make if they had Paul George and the roster still.
But this is something where I think both sides were
so dug in, and I don't blame either side in
this situation. I know a lot of Clipper Nation they've
(20:09):
kind of soured on Paul George to a degree, or
they're immediately flipping on him now that he has left. Look,
if you're an athlete, you got five, ten or fifteen years,
if you're lucky to make the majority of the money
you're going to make in your life, get as much
as you can. I never hold it against a guy
for going for the back, And on the Clipper side,
they were going to hold firm on not giving up
(20:30):
that fourth year because they still to pay James Harden.
They already paid Kawhi Leonard. They've been in deep obviously
with the two to one three era, and they didn't
want to be paying a thirty eight year old guy
sixty million on the back end of his contract, which
is what the Philadelphia Sixers are going to be ending
up doing with Paul George.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, Adam, I'm part of that Clipper nation that you
just said has flipped on Paul George, because how can
we not flip on him?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
We literally gave up so much for you.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
You tell us you don't want to go anywhere, you
don't want to leave, and then you haven't delivered for
the Clippers to give you a max four year contract.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It wasn't like we were giving him pennies.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
And then the way he goes out with his podcast
partner tweeting those tweets the Clippers suck anyway and then
deleting it, how does he not leave a bad taste
in our mouths?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, look, I hope Dallas Rutherford on the podcast, and
I did respond back to that saying.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I man, life, you don't you don't.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Burn Bridges on the way out. This isn't how you
treat an organization. I don't think he was speaking for
Paul George. I think he knew that by the fact
that he had to delete those tweets afterwards. Of course,
nothing has ever scrubbed off the Internet, and people will
always refer back to that, and he even tried to
walk them back, saying no, it was just a joke,
saying the Clippers suck. But he went after Kawhi Leonard.
(21:49):
He said at least Kawhi Lennard was available, or at
least Paul George was available for that first round series
against the Dallas Mavericks because somebody criticized Paul George's play.
I don't like that stuff, but I'm gonna wait to
hear from Paul George because I do think he is
going to thank the fans. And while you can make
the argument that James Harden took less, that Kawhi Leonard
took less, he's not obligated to take any less. And
(22:11):
I think professional athletes, look, you can say he's made
all this money already. It's their prerogative how much money
they want to make. And if there's a contract out
there to make over sixty two more million, more dollars.
I'm not going to complain about that. I just that's
my stance. That's how I've always been with athletes. And
(22:31):
I love Paul George and I'm not gonna say he's
the enemy now or anything like that. It was unfortunate
that they never got it done and the era overall
has been a failure and his disappointment. But the majority
of that has been because of things outside of their control,
because of all the injuries on the court. When those
two were together, they had a seven hundred win percentage.
(22:51):
They were great when they could actually be out there together.
Problem was there wasn't enough of that. Paul George missed
one hundred and thirty three games, Kawhi Leonard has missed
one hundred and seventy eight.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Is a Clipper crazy?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Those those numbers are absurd now, Adams being logical, I
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Adam molls and joining us here at Fox Sports Radio
pre and post game show, host of the Clippers broadcast
on a M five to seventy LA Sports. Joining us
here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio.
I got one more Clippers question. A lot of teams
in the NBA if they were opening a new arena,
would want a team ready made for the opening of
that arena. This almost feels like the opposite for how
(23:27):
you laid out what the Clippers are doing. Is Is
it because Steve Balmer just has all the money in
the world and it doesn't matter? But what do you
think that there was any thought process in trying to
form this team a certain way as they enter into
their home coming up this fall.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
Well, I think they wanted Paul George back under the
right terms, and Paul George wanted to be back if
the price was right, because they were the most competitive
team possible, like it looked like they had during that
twenty six and five stretch last season where everybody said
they were the best team in the league. But of
course it was Kawhi Leonard having the knee swell up
on him. He barely was able to play in the
(24:03):
playoff series, look like a shell of himself. Those big
three that they had acquired with James Harden coming over
last season, it worked. It was very good on the court,
and the Clippers wanted to keep that together, but it
had to be under the right structure because of the
second apron now in the salary cap. It has teams
in hell, everybody is in fear of this. Just for example,
a couple of just the punitative penalties that come down
(24:26):
on you. If you're above that second apron, you could
have first round picks frozen seven years out that you
can't trade. And then if you're over the second apron
three times out of five years, that first round pick
it goes to the back of the line. You're thirtieth.
You can't aggregate trades if you're above the second apron,
meaning you want a guy that makes thirty million dollars
(24:48):
from another squad, you have two guys that make fifteen
million dollars, you can't combine them to trade for that
one player. So it makes everything so restrictive and difficult.
It's a brave new world for front offices right now
in the NBA is trying to navigate and finesse the
new salary cap. So I completely understand the Clippers logic
in this. And they still have two top seventy five
(25:10):
players ever that are going to be there opening night
at into a Dome with what I think is going
to be a competitive roster still and a much better
defense than they had.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Last season, just wondering your thought, my last Clipper question.
You know a lot of fans out there wondering was
this worth it? Would you still sign PG thirteen knowing
that this was going to be the outcome.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I say, yes, I still would have done it.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
You're saying going back to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Months, correct, Yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Is revisionist history. And it bothers me to no end
when I have to respond to this stuff on Twitter constantly,
and I see the evil four letter without any context.
Throw up what the Clippers got and Paul George and
the five first round picks they gave up an SGA
to the OKC thunder, as if they would have done
(26:01):
that if they weren't getting Kawhi Leonard. Also, I know
technically he wasn't involved in the trade, but he was
a free agent, and the reason they trained for Paul
George was to get Kawhi Leonard, who was just coming
off winning Finals MVP in twenty nineteen and everybody said
he's the best player in the world. Oh, by the way,
Paul George was just top three in MVP voting and
(26:22):
Defensive Player of the Year voting that season. I didn't
hear any of this nonsense. At the time, we knew
there were some injury concerns. Nobody could have foreseen this,
and nobody said that SGA had MVP potential. They said
his ceiling was an All Star. I got a pretty
damn good memory, and that was all the opinions back
(26:45):
then from everybody on Twitter and all the NBA analysts,
And now they want to go back in time and say,
how could the Clippers have done this well? At the time,
everybody had him with the odds on favorite. So if
every GM in the history of basketball would have made
that move, I'm going to say it probably the right
move that just ended up not working out.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Zanna Maslin joining us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
She's Monte Blanio. So I'm Dan Byer. I have a
different take about an LA basketball team or question. That
would be the Lakers. You mentioned it's Bronnie James introduction day.
We've seen the pictures popping up him and Dalton Cannext
standing side by side. My question is this, will the
(27:23):
Laker fans fully embrace Bronnie James, because I'm not sure
they actually have done that with lebron Will it happen
with his son now in the Purple and gold Well.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I was gonna say, the ones who defaced Murals when
Lebron came over, the ones who are ardent Kobe defenders
and never won Lebron James. Of course, they're always gonna
hate Bronni as well, since of the father type self,
so to speak. I just I can't understand, for the
life of me, why anyone would care this much about
(27:54):
a team taking a pick at or taking a flyer
on a pick fifty five if it matters. I've gone
back ten years the last ten players taking it pick
fifty five. One of them is still in the league,
Aaron Wiggins, who just got paid by OKC. The rest
(28:15):
are playing in East Asia, Serbia and Kuwait. I'm not kidding.
Those are the results, and that's nothing out of the ordinary.
At the end of the second round, you were just
trying to hit a home run and maybe get Nikola Jokic,
who was still drafted during a Taco Bell commercial going on.
Nobody knows what the hell these guys are going to
turn out to be. And I'm old enough to remember
(28:37):
when draft Express and other outlets a couple of years ago,
when BROWNI was still in high school them saying he's
trending to be a lottery pick. I'm old enough to
remember him having fifteen points and looking the part in
the McDonald's All American Game. So some of this is
a lot of recency biased because of how things went
(28:58):
at USC and because obviously the heart condition. I understand
a little bit of the backlash, but to take it
to this point with a player who's not going to
define the Lakers season or change their championship expectations. In
my mind either way, it's just much ado about nothing.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I like everything you just said, Adam, but more importantly,
coming up next season, who wins the series between the
Lakers and the Clippers.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Oh, I know where my bread is buttered. I mean
the Clippers could be taken on the ninety two Dream Team,
and I'm going to say the Clippers.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
That's right, Adam.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Come on, come on, too easy, Manty.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
This has been fun. We got to do it again, Adam.
We love your insight, we love your energy. We can't
wait for the NBA season to actually start playing and
playing out, and when that happens, we'll ivey on again.
Appreciate it, man, Appreciate you guys have a good show.
Adam Awsin. He's the pre and post game show host
for the Clippers on a five seventy. LA Sports covers
(30:00):
the NBA and the Clippers specifically for the station as well.
She's Manti Bologho. So I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio. This on the
heels of Simon Lebond being at Wimbledon. Playing a little
Duran Duran. She's Manti Bologno, So I'm Dan Byer. I
do love Ordinary World, Dude. That's a great, great song.
Love a lot of Duran Duran stuff. I just thought maybe, yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Know, it's just not what I thought we were gonna
go back.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You thought it would be Reflex. That's my Reflex Flex
Max Max black Box. Oh good, Iowa. Sam's here, so
is Jason Stewart. Isaac Loncrown is going to have a
game for us in about sixty seconds or so. But
you feel that Major League Baseball had quite the moment
last night that we are talking about.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Yeah, I don't understand how when a batter hits for
the cycle it's not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Why Att Langford just did it for the Texas Rangers.
He's also a rookie.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Uh So it's the first cycle of the year and
they're just as rare as a no hitter.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And I don't get how we don't get excited about it.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
And this O, this is Sunday, this is some time spoke.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, yeah, but it just it just happened, and literally
nobody cares. And it bothers me that we don't care
about hitting for the cycle.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
When it's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
See, I don't think people care as much about no
hitters anymore. I think that they have become more common.
We've had combo no hitters. The reason why I don't
think that people care about the cycle as much is
because at least if you have a no hitter, there's
some OCD of excellence with the other team got zero,
(31:58):
like they got zero hits. There was zero hits the cycle.
I would actually say that the ultimate hitting game is
four home runs in a game you just went yard
every single time. Where this is a little bit of this,
a little bit of that and a little bit of
this sin a lot of that.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Right which a lot of things have to happen for
you to get a little bit of this and a
little bit of that, the same thing with a no nose.
So I agree with you that no nos maybe aren't
as impressive anymore, but I think it has to do
more because they're combined no hitters that we hear about
lately as the way pitching has progressed in baseball. But
this is not an easy thing to do, getting a triple.
And that was his first hit in the fourth inning,
a triple, and then he went on in the fifth
(32:34):
and sixth inning.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And then hit a home run. A rookie like, what,
don't look at me like that, Dan Well.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I always laughed when the guy would have a single
double in a home run, They're like, all he needs
is a triple, which is the hardest one. Yeah, and
you're like, well, he's not going to get it, And
there are times it has happened.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
But and you know, this guy hit a triple in
the fourth inning. Nobody was like, oh, he's on his
way to the cycle. Nobody thought that, and then he
he did. I don't know, I'm very like shocked that
more people are not as excited.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think if you get the triple, you are automatically
in contention for the cycle. If you get it early
enough that now because the other stuff happens a lot
easier now for a.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Rookie, you're not thinking you're gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Isaac low and Crown's here with the game.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
This is game time. On the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
He always hits for the cycle when he's with us.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Say hit for the cycle or hit for the psycho. Honestly,
could go either way there, all right, save a prayer
for Dan and Monson. This game won't come ondone rank
them all right? With the Boston Celtics in the news
because the defending newly crowned World champions will now be sold,
I want you to rank pro sports teams you would
(33:47):
most like to buy, assuming, of course, money was no object.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Right, I'm sorry. The Yankees have to be Numero.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Uno, right, I could.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
I'm with that that location history fan base.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yes, I'm into it, valueval the whole thing. I like
that one, even the like the like.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I would rather have a ballpark than a football stadium,
and I know like you could probably do more. You
can have soccer matches in a football stadium, but I
would rather have New Yankee Stadium than AT and T Stadium,
which is Jerry's world in Arlington.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Oh yeah, oh yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Now I'm thinking here, location and what would I want?
Right I would probably probably pick a basketball team. I'm
not gonna put the clickbers because that's the obvious answer
that I really would.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I think I would buy like the Miami Heat. Location. Location, location,
really in a good history.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
If we're talking right now, Eric Spolstra, I would buy
the Miami Heat.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
I'd buy that for a dollar, thank you for.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
A dollar and a half.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
I do think the Cowboys need to be on this list.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yeah I knew the but you know that was an
obvious answer.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sure, we're get Heat Cowboys. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 8 (35:00):
Those are one, two, three, By the way, and Eric
Spolstra footnote, my mom thinks that Eric Spolster is hot.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
So does my mom in the same Watch.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Out Eric next time, next time you're in town for
a road trip to play the Lakers. Well you mentioned
Jerry Jones along those lines. I want you guys to
rank the most powerful people in sports.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
He is, he is, he is.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Nuno he is number one powerful.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Man in the most powerful league. Yes, because he also
runs the puppet strings of Roger Goodell, who was probably
the second most powerful considering who he represents.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I've been thinking about it a lot.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Shows gracious, I think those are easy one too. And
then based on what's going on in the world right now,
would we say Lebron, Yeah, Lebron James yeah, right, yes,
but I agree Jerry.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Jones at the top.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
And finally, I want you to rank the best uniforms
in sports, current or past, pro, college whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
I'm gonna tell you which uniform I love and I
hate that. I love it, I really do.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
But the San Diego City connect Jersey with the like
pink and green and very Miami looking.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
I love them, but I can never wear that. It's
a padre.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now, it's funny about Miami. There are other large people
contingent of people in southern California that hate South Florida, yeah,
and hate that. But Moncey is all about it.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I started running down NFL uniforms. I think the Bears
Navy uniform like as a whole is just with their
navy jerseys and white pants, like it's so classic, clean. Yes,
I think the Cowboys whites are great. People love the Packers,
the Niners. Red and gold is pretty strong too. In
terms of just the traditional uniform, those would be my top.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
But I think I would pick the Bears. I'm with
you on the Bears.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
All right, and that's game time. Thank you very much, Isaac.
She's Moncey, I'm Dan. People are calling the Clippers in
absolute failure. Those people are wrong. I'll tell you why
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