July 3, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug welcomes NBA Writer for The Athletic Joe Vardon onto the show to break down all of the week's activity in NBA free agency. In this edition of "The Midway", Doug and the crew talk about sports on July 4th. Plus, Bryan Fenley takes Doug through "The Press".
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do the midway, middle of the day, middle of the show,
middle of the week. But we just we got Joe
Varden who's going to join us momentarily and he covers
the entire league for the Athletic and I thought he'd
be a great guy to get on considering all of
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the movement, and Joe, of course is also clevered previously
that just to Cleveland Cavaliers. They're an interesting story, nonetheless,
But what I find to be fascinating is you know,
no one shares the details of relationships or what's going
on in the thick of it. They don't. But when
the season is over, or when a trade is consummated
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or a guy leaves, now all bets are off and
things where little things become big things. Seeds that were planted.
And the more you hear about Clay Thompson's departure from
the Warriors, the more you understand that relationship was done.
He was miserable there. And like, again, some of this
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is psychology. We did it, ask the coach, and I'll
just be honest that I knew this coming in, but
I didn't know it to this extent, like being a
basket coach college and pro and even high school to
a certain extent, So much of it is psychology. Yet
but you got you got to be dime store a psychologist,
you know, because the coaching guys one way and the
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hard dime of breaking the guy down and building back up,
like you just you don't have the time to do
that with all the guys you don't And yeah, you
just it becomes very very difficult, very difficult to see
that as see that as a way in which you're
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always going to be successful, So you have to Jimmy
Johnson says this. Remember Jimmy Johnson, I'm talking about the
Fox NFL analyst, former National Championship and NAST Championship coach
and coach of the Miami Dolphins. He always said, you
coach everybody the same different. But the more you hear
about Klay Thompson and his time at the end with
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the Warriors, the more you're like, yeah, that, no, wonder
that thing ended with that. Joe Varden joins this course.
He covers the NBA for the Athletic What do what
do you think of Klay Thompson, not just leaving the
Warriors for the MAVs, but the fact that he shunned
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Doug I love coming on as always, and this is
as fascinating a topic as there is. I mean, I
just I've had some conversations with some of these some
of the people there in the last twenty four to
forty eight hours, and he just Klay wanted out, he
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wanted to change. He didn't have to leave, you know,
the Warriors wanted him back, certainly like the people who
coached him and teammates, you know, wanted to continue being
his teammate, but he he was ready for a new scene.
And I don't I just don't think that there was
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going to be anything that happened that changed his mind.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Why not the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know what, Doug that one. I don't know as well.
It's hard to understand, you know, the mascinations with you know,
whether it's the money or you know, I mean fit wise,
like I guess you would, you would think that playing
alongside of passing Lebron would be something that that Clay
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would like other than you, I guess you get to
play with the long, the younger version of him, with
Luca and and and then maybe you know, Clay may
be more comfortable playing for Jason Kids than JJ Reddick.
That's a possibility as well. I mean he's not you know,
we know he's not breaking the bank in Dallas. So
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I admit here that I am speculating. But if you
just think about Jason Kidd now has proven himself as
not only an NBA coach, but as a player's coach.
Somebody who probably has a similar demeanor, maybe looks at
things in a way that's similar to Clay so there's that,
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and then you know, playing alongside Luca and Kyrie. I mean,
if you think about with Clay, like going back to
some of his time with Team USA, like he spent
some of those years with Kyrie, and Kyrie is a
lot better, you know, in a lot better place.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We talked about that, but Luca, he actually for being
the league league sport, he actually also creates a ton
of opportunities for players. Uh, and the Mavericks are desperate
for a spot up shooter. I think like their record
when Tim Hardaway Junior makes four th reason a game
is just some outrageous number. So Clay's gonna feels like
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he's going to get a lot of open shots there.
And so I just think, you know, and then he
could do that in a place where like he doesn't
have that family tie, like in Golden State, like yes
he was a splash brother, Yes he helped build things there,
but if there was a shadow, it be sets he'd
be playing kind of understand shadow. And then in in
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l A, you're talking about bron and ab Shore, but
then also his death, you know, and there's that storyline,
so he can go to Dallas, he can get a
fresh start, he's gonna get a million open looks, and
he's playing with you know, maybe maybe a coach that
that he can understand and and vibe with.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Joe Barton joining us, you're right to the athletic he
joined to the Doug Outleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
how does the league view what the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think you know, like if you, if you, if
you go back, and if you can you can imagine
as this story has played out, not only not only
over the last few weeks, but really months in the
whole year, when you start thinking about the speculation of
is Bronni gonna come out? Okay, he is? Is he worth?
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Like is he worth the draft pick? And so there's
been a million conversations about this, and there there are
from there are talent evaluators who say, yeah, he's not
he's not bad, like he's you know, he's young, he
needs more time, but he's not bad. So I think
by and large, the league understands a few things. One
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from the if you want to use the word nepotism
or whatever, fine, but like Lebron is lebron wants this
as maybe his parting gifts for what he has done
for the league. He's earned this, so I don't think
anybody's going to have too big of a problem with
it from that perspective. But then the second thing is
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people get drafted on flyers all the time, and you
know this, you know, there are players from Europe that
get stashed over there and then they get brought over
and and maybe they stink, or maybe they never come over,
or maybe they you know, somebody's playing in Australia and
they come over and they're they're bad, and they they're
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hardly ever in the you know, like in the NBA.
Like this kind of thing happens all the time. So
if the Lakers are taking a flyer on Bronnie James
because because of who his father is, that's okay, that's fine.
I think the final point I would make is, you know,
Lebron has spent the last twenty one years empowering people
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around him who are the closest to him. And there
are a few examples of this. There are three that
I want to mention, Rich Paul, he helps Rich start
that agency. Maverick Carter, his longtime business manager who now
runs you know, all of the Lebron media Empires. And there's
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a third guy who's really good, Brandon Wims, who's an
executor with the Cats, grew up with Lebron and certainly
got his first job in Cleveland because of that time.
But all three of those guys have taken their opportunity
that they got by being so close to Lebron and
run with it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Run with it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Rich. Paul is arguably the most He's one of the
most powerful agents in sports. Maverick Carter is rich beyond
what you and I could fathom. And that's even with
your multiple jobs. But anyway, like Mattrick Carter's done amazing,
and Brandon Wims is a respected NBA executive that has
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nothing to do with Lebron. To there you have Ronnie
Janes who gets this opportunity with the Lakers. Who's to
say that he doesn't run with it?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
What if?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What if he blossoms in the next couple of years
and become a guy that can come off the bench
and give you real NBA minutes, Like you know, that's
what I'm looking for. It's not well, how or why
does he have this opportunity? It is what does he
do with it?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah? I guess I guess the issue with it is
like just the ridiculous levels to which they lie, right,
JJ Redick with He's he's earned it through his hard work,
Like Dalton Connects. Dalton connect by the way we sit
on the other side, Dalon connect went to junior college
to Northern Colorado to Tennessee and Dalt connect earned it. Right.
I'm not saying that le Broni doesn't work hard, but
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like again, like what are we doing here? You know,
you lose people with with that stuff, even when and
so if that's the sale, if it's the hey, look
he had a setback with the hard issue. His best
basketball is still ahead of him. I've said this in
the past. I believe it the way he plays in
which he doesn't really need the basketball. He plays out
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the ball like and he's just kind of a role
player that sets him up potentially for a successful future.
But he's so far from being there that, yeah, you
need the you need the G League, which is where
he's going to be. But the rich Paul, we're not
doing a two way contract act, the four year guaranteed
contract for a second rounder like never done before. All
of these things are just kind of bordering on ridiculous
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to where it makes most of us roll our eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, yes, yes, and there yes, I will, I will
agree to all of that. I don't think JJ needed
to quite go that far, you know. I think that
probably what he was referring to is that he's turned
himself into a player who is like, let me put
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this on.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I know the.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
James family well enough to say that if Brownie would
get hurt or be embarrassed, and we can discuss what
we mean by embarrassed but embarrassed doing this, they wouldn't
have done it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So he's worked.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
He has worked, worked hard enough to put himself in
position to be considered. You know, would you have been
drafted if that was his last name with something else?
You know, we know that. But he has put in
the work, and he did overcome the heart thing to
one year later to be like okay and being able
to you know, go out there and compete. I mean
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that that's fine. JJ went too far with that the contract.
I will, I will agree. You know they're going you know, uh,
they're going there, They're they're going the full board here.
He's got his four years. But I just think, you know,
I think that, like we all know what it is,
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and so like we don't like the Lakers don't have
to bend over backwards to say that it isn't And
let's all now just see what he does with it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, Joe Barden joining us covers the entire NBA for
the athletic It's interesting we talk about Lakers, We'll talk
about the Knicks, talk about the Sixers. How much of
America is going to miss on what the Thunder are doing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I know, and they are, I mean they yeah,
they like yeah, the heart Heartenstein, you know, is the
latest thing, and they were one of the best teams
in the NBA all year. They still have all just
all this capital to work with. They are, Yeah, there's
something to behold, you know. Like so like when you
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try to figure out what the lake, I get asked
all the time, like, you know, what does the Lebron
contract mean? Now he's back, Like can the Lakers do X,
Y or Z. Well, they can't be in the discussion
right now because of what's going on in Oklahoma City
in Minnesota. You know, Denver is still really good. But yeah,
I mean the Thunder are going to be as fun
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of a team to watch as we have in the league.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, they're there. They got something pretty special ruin there.
I heard some people talking today about the pressure now
on Jewel Embiid. Is that fair? Does he have the
most pressure of anybody because he's the guy, the last
guy who has won one?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah? I think I mean to agree that these guys
feel pressure. I don't know, and I don't know if
Joel like takes these kinds of things to heart. But
my take on the Paul George contract there is it's
it's lovely, It's it turns the Sixers into a team
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that's gonna that can be in the conversation with the
Celtics and the Knicks. But they haven't gotten very far
in the playoffs because Joel Embiid is not healthy in
April and met and I have news. If Joel Embiid
is not healthy next April or next May, then having
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Paul George there is not going to be the difference.
It's not enough. They Joel is what makes that team
the a contender. So when they suit up on October
eighteenth or whatever, it's going to be really exciting and
they're going to be, you know them with the Celtics
and the Knicks, we're going to be We're just going
to be crossing, you know, over the possibilities. But the
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Sixers are a legitimate contender if Joel Embiid can make
it through the regular season and be ready to go
when it really matters in the spring, and the last
couple of years he has been really banged up at
that point.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Joe, we know that you you you've covered Cleveland for
for years. What, Yeah, it feels like a bit of
an overcreate a correction for when they first lost Lebron.
How they've given the keys to the kingdom, you know,
and now to a guy who's really really good, but
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I don't know if he's to that level in Donovan Mitchell.
Is that fair that that he's had the key, All
these deals, all these moves that are made are to
keep him happy and then he re signs. Is that
is that what what you feel like has happened?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, of course you're yes, Yes, that's that's precisely it.
That is the price of doing business in a small market,
and and probably the price of doing business in a
small market when you've been shunned twice by a megastar.
That's just how it is. And and yes, JB. Bickerstaff
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works in Detroit now, uh in part because of Donovan.
And you know, Kenny Atkinson, like Dan Gilbert, had a
lot to do with with the hiring of the coach.
But but but Donovan gave his blessing there for sure,
and and so yeah, so he's under contract, you know
my you know at the athletic there's been some research
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and some stories done about you know, teams don't typically
win when their best player is smaller, and right now,
Donovan is definitely their best player. So you know, they
become you know, Kobe Allman there, their president, said something
prescient when he made when he brought Donovan to Cleave
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when from Utah. He said, they will actually be ready
to contend when Evan Mobley is ready to contend. And
he's still right with that. If Evan takes to jump
that he just everybody thought he might and he didn't
take the last couple of years, that changes them. And
so when you think about the future of the Cavs, like, yes, yes,
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you're able. It's a huge deal to get Donovan back
and and he's going to be around for a while,
but for them to remain in the conversation with these
other three teams that you and I have been talking about.
They either need to change the roster, which I don't
know that they're going to do, or Evan Mobley needs
to be different from what from what he's been. And
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that's that's the next story. You know, Donovan has the power,
he's got to hold up his end and and and
win in the playoffs for sure, But but he needs
Evan Mobley to take those steps forward to for this
team to really be something.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Joe Varden covers the NBA for the Athletic and does
a hell of a job. Joe, you the best man.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Have a happy fourth you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
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Speaker 1 (18:23):
Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So it's the middle
of the day, it's relatively the middle of the show.
I thought we should get to a little midway, shall we.
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's dogging, It's time for.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
The midway.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, So the midway is Fourth of July related, is
it not?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Ja Stu, Yes, As I am prone to do earlier
before the show. I sent it to group text everybody
involved today saying for the Midway today, gentlemen, what sport
event or sports moment do you most associate with Fourth
of July? And I'd like to have a conversation, go
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around the room, and I'll tell you this is so random,
but it's something that I'll never forget because it's fourth
of July. I just looked it up the other day.
There's been three hundred and thirty five no hitters in
the history of baseball. How that pertains to my Fourth
of July memory. I remember when I was eleven years old,
Dave Righetti through a no hitter for the Yankees on
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the fourth of.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
July, Spaghetti Righetty.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It's like I would never remember that Dave Righetti threw
a no hitter unless it happened on the fourth of July.
So my personal memory of something that happened on the
fourth of July sports related was from childhood, Dave Righetti
throwing a no hitter. And I'm just wondering if each
of the three of you have your own kind of
memory and or what event do you associate more this holiday?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Good question, that's a good question. Well, my personal memory,
it's not necessarily a sports memory either, But there was
an earthquake a couple years agoing forward July. I remember that.
But when I was a kid, I was in sixth
grade and Brook and Robin Lopez's older brother Alex was
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my teammate on I joined their team for the AAU Nationals.
We end up winning the national champiship, but I was
in sixth grade. We're in Bellevue, Washington, and we bought
a bunch of fireworks. And the thing about kids that
grew up in California is we don't have a lot
of fireworks. The illegal ones that we get from from
Mexico back then were more m eights, which you are
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just little sticks of dynamite and they blow things up. Now,
I think, obviously there's a lot of the upper end
fireworks for Mexico to make the way here. So when
we went to Washington, State of Washington, and they had
all these fireworks like it was kids in a candy store.
We bought a bunch and I had this box of
like missiles and you'd light it with It was really cool.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Well, like the box looks like Krans, right types of
Crans oh, yes, those areas over.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It tipped over, and it flew at some of the
parents and landed in one mom's hair, and it was
not great. I laugh to myself. I tried to act
like I cared. She was fine, but a little sindeed
hair that was great. Finleyk Sam.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah, Doug, I associate fourth of July with seeing an
athlete and you were talking about fireworks, not knowing the
right safety protocol for fireworks. It seems like every year
in the news, whether it's Jason Pierre Paul and that
fireworks accident or somebody else in another sport. Every year, Doug,
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we're hearing about an accident, and we just hope that
it's not a big name player in any sort of sport.
But it seems to be commonplace tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think it's commonplace.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You don't think.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Every every year.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
We heard about it. Here's the thing I think some
are you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Everybody knows. Jason Bierpoul I told my team about it today.
Oh you did, okay, And I said, there are three reasons,
and like, what do you mean three reasons? And I said,
showed a picture of his hand. Three reasons why you
gotta be careful about about fireworks. But I don't think
it's commonplace.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Or it's not reported.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
But yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I mean what is commonplaces? The are the videos obviously
the more more phone videos we've gotten over the year. Yeah,
there's that one that's just ridiculous. I don't even know
if it was last year or before. The people sitting
in the front yard with the front the stash, what
about the.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Guy on the what about the guy on the wheelchair
the wheel Oh yeah, that one. That one's great, like.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Get away, get away. He's like, we're going away like
a half a mile an hour.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
But you would think that that was doctor, the one
with all the family in their front yard. But yeah,
it's it's actually true, but it looks like it's one
of those like that must have been doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Here's here's a question, Jace. Do I think you if
we could put together all the things that are annoying,
especially about LA, that we hate, and then fire fireworks
off at the same time into them, right, like the
people who what's the what's it called when they do
the street things with the.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Stars street takeover?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Street takeovers? Yeah, right, we combine street takeovers. Global climate
change protesters right, people who like in front of children
do the ass shaking thing and fireworks all at the
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same time, like and and they would all have fireworks
fired at them, like mistakenly and surprise them. I would
be really happy.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Like when those I don't know if it's street takeover,
maybe we're talking about different things. But when when they
start doing those donuts and then they show somebody getting
hit or killed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Actually I actually like, I actually like I don't want
them to get killed, but like somebody getting hit by
a car because they're watching some other car.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
They're in a circle. It's there's not a space.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
It's yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm by the same way with the with people who
taunt animals, you know out in the wild, or or
people who do the running of the bulls, buffalo the bull.
I'm on like team bull. Like you mess with the bull,
you get the horns. I learned that from John John Hughes.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know that just happened a couple of weeks ago.
A bull got loose right and into the concourse.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And yes, now that one was that like a rodeo
in Oregon. Yeah, yeah, and the bull fence, the fence, Yeah,
who is the one who decided the height of the fence.
They're going like, hey, Jim, yeah, under the height of
the fence I did next year, I think we need
a foot higher.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Bulls or what incredibly athletic? The underestimated the athletics, the
athleticism of the bull.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sure, sure, like Luke Longley kind of underrated athleticism. Quest right,
that's right, I was, but I was rooting for the bull. Wait, like, oh,
you got a toned bull. The bull hops over events,
Like oh, but think about the guy who designed the
height of the e fence.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Like.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Was that association on purpose? Did you pick Luke Longley
because he's a bull or did you just completely out
of that's good?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, there was that. There was definitely the the he
was a he was a bowl then.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
W that's really that was good.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
On the street teak takeover people are the worst though,
Like I started to hear some fireworks booms last night,
and I'm like, oh, great, but like, okay, it's of
the time of the season. But I remember twenty twenty
where we had no fireworks shows. They're all shut down
because of COVID. I was driving around and they were
just people. It looked like it. I'd never seen anything
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like that in LA before. Like just driving around there
were fireworks going off everywhere.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I should pre I should report you for crimes during
COVID if you were driving, nobody was allowed to drive.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
That's not true. You're allowed to drive.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I drive it.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have freedom of movement.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I have a great COVID story that I don't know
if I've ever told you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh wow, So I lived. I was in California, that
left fifty one miles from the office. And the deal
I made with our boss was like I'd come into
three days a week because I could do it from home.
But the way in which I was doing it was
a little arcane, a little bit expensive, and it was
there was no traffic at all, right, which sounds great.
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And the only places that were open, especially for probably
the first three months, were emergency places only, which apparently
is coffee, right, But those Starbucks and Coffee Bean and
Tea Leaf were open. The restrooms were not. And yeah,
I had I had some tough, a tough decision one
(27:03):
day on the can I make it there or can
I not make it? Let's just say I decided I
could not make it there pulled over the side of
the road and yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Was wow, that's incredible. Yeah, did you at least dig
a hole?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I did not dig a hole. Did not dig hole.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
He used a coffee cup.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No, no, not for this, Sam.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
July fourth sports?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
What comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Sam?
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Not not a ton Other than you know, we're we've
last ten to fifteen years, probably because of Joey Chestnut
and Kobayashi, we've paid more attention to the air quote
sport that is competitive eating, but it is something to
watch on the day.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's definitely become a staple.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, for most of us,
hot dogs are a part of the are part of
the Fourth of July cuisine. And you can enjoy a
vegan hot dog if you want. And I've never tried.
I'd like to try and just see if, like I
really could stomach that. But definitely the Fourth of July
Coney Island Nathan's famous hot dog eating contest, that probably
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be the thing that most recently on my memory that
I would think about in correlation to Fourth of July.
The gluttony and the slobbery, the eating of wet buns,
it's very grotesque. I remember we embrace it because we're Americans.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Thirty years ago, I think we hosted the World Cup right,
thirty years ago, if I'm doing my mouth right, yes night.
I remember it was around July fourth, Maybe it wasn't
the day of or at least around It was the
game that we beat Columbia, and Colombia had the own
goal by that defender who was later murdered back in Colombia.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
I heard about that.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Yeah, accidentally scored a goal on his own team, and it.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Was an amazing thirty for thirty. Yeah, because the name
of the defender shares the name of Pablo Escobar.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
I guess it's just a string sad action.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And now much like, uh, who is the guy in Godfather?
He sleeps through the fishes? Right?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Not Fredo?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But no, no, no, who's up with the fishes?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I mean, I've seen the movie so many times. It's
so there's so many lines, you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know, slips of fishes the midway. All right, let's get
let's uh, Luca Brassi, Luca Brazi, that's sleep sweet.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
Doug Gottleib Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having
a great day getting ready for an outstanding weekend. For
July is upon us. So basically like most people's weekends
kind of start today, right, A lot of people heading
out where of your heading out? I hope you're being safe.
That's like the third person I've heard tell me their
(30:08):
family's boat isn't working. Yeah, boat breakdown. That's that's a
that's a tough one. But for July, I mean that's
Thursday is a pretty good day for a holiday, right
then everybody gets out town on a Wednesday, then you
got Thursday nothing. Friday. Oh, we are working. We are working.
So uh tomorrow we'll have the DG Show as you're
(30:29):
rolling around on a on a Thursday afternoon or Thursday
midday if you're in the West coast, and then Friday, well,
the Dan Patrick Show and then we get our weekend
starts early. WHOA, Jase, do you doing the Dan Patrick
Show with me Friday morning?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
So I'll do Uh, I've committed to do one of
the two. I've got plans tomorrow, so you're on your
own and I'll be in with you on Dan Patrick
on Friday.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, fair enough, that's the plan. Let's get to the pressent.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
The press.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Hello there, Brian Finley.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What's in the press, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
So we want to start with something that NFL grade
Tiki Barber said on his radio show where he had
some choice words for Austin Eckler concerning whether or not
he is a workhorse running back and has what it
takes to be a three hundred carry back.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Here is that sounds Austin Eckler said something the other day.
It was so discouraging, so discourageing. I had nothing to
do with anything.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
It just it was discourageing because he was asked about
why the Jim Harbaugh led Chargers weren't ideal for him,
or why it was why did they moved on from him?
And you know what his answer was, No, they want
a guy who can run the ball three hundred times
a season. That they want someone who can run the
ball three hundred times.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
So, in other words, Eckler was saying, he can't do that, yes,
but as a running back, you should go look at.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
How many times I ran the ball three hundred times.
It basically wasn't up to the chetwall. No, he's just saying,
it's not my game. It's not my game to be
Like to dude, you couldn't get me off the field.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's a tough thing for Eque to say when he's
the one waving for how much money he wanted.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
You want to be a bell cow or not be.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
On the field all the time, right, don't be a
liability on third down, catch the ball on the backfield,
truck it through the offensive line twenty five times a game, right?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You want to get paid be that. That's what Christom
McCaffrey does.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
That dude has so many hundred percent participation games in
his career that makes no damn sense. I never had
hundred dred percent participation game. That is, play every game,
every snap. I've never done that. Christ McCaffrey's done it
like eight times. So you got you got the christ
McCaffrey's of the world who make nineteen million dollars a year,
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and then you got these other guys who can't make
eight And you wonder why.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I actually like what T. E. Barber is saying there,
I do. I look, I think Austnckler does a lot
of things he's not especially this time in his career.
He's not in every down back and it's a completely
different system. You Know's what's interesting about Ausnckler. And this
one's hard because I really like him and he was
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a really good charger, was he? It did feel like
he lost that, not the edge. But remember like this
is a guy undrafted, unheralded and made it to being
a star running back in his role. And you know,
the Chargers did a good job of placing him in
a salary structure, work to work for them and pretty
(33:40):
well for him. But I think he lost a little
bit of that and became a little bit entitled. I
remember he was one of the main guys last year
when it was the summer of discontent for the running backs. Like, dude,
like he got to know who you are at some point,
and I don't think he does.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Here's the next one, Doug showy Otani. We're not going
to see him on July fifteenth hitting meatballs in the
batter's box at the home run derby. Obviously people want
to see him do it, but he says no, thanks,
What say you?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean, Jay Stu has been a big opponent of
him being in the home run Derby, right, and Jay
has said, hey, it's because of his surgically repaired elbow,
Like you don't want why would you put him in
in harm's way and have all that repeated use. My
pushback to that is people I've talked to is like, look,
they play home run Derby in their second and third
at bats in VP every day. Anyway, I disagree with it.
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The baseball, especially the All Star Game, is flat. Nobody cares,
nobody pays attention. Here's the guy with the biggest salary
in the history of American sports. He's with a new
team in the Dodgers. He's second in the league in
home run hitting. He's right there tracking towards Maris's type
of record or towards you know, he's not going to
break Barry's record because he's not a steroid dude. Anyway,
(35:01):
I think they need him there because that's that's a big,
big night. Do I think it's boring, Yes, Do I
think it's jumped to shark, Sure, but it's still a
night in which all the corporate sponsors love, and I
just think he needs to be there for the.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Sport, Doug.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
To further your point, Yeah, you're talking about the injury
and he's recovering, of course from the injured elbow ligament.
He's taken part of the derby once, that was back
in twenty twenty one, but as you said, he's going
through rehab progression. Doesn't want to risk anything. We're hearing
more and more NBA free agents moving to new teams,
and some of them today, Doug would be how about
(35:36):
this move Joe Ingles going on a one year deal
to the Timberwolves and what that can do for the
t Wolves as they continue to make that push for
a championship.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I don't remember what happened to Joe Ingles last couple
of what happened to him? Where's he been?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Well, he was in Orlando. You know, he's bounced around.
He was with the Utah Jazz for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, no, we he was in Jazz when he's really good. Yeah,
that was a couple of years ago when he was
really good. Yeah. I mean gives them big body, left
hand guy, can shoot, knows how to play man. No,
down't think we'll win them a championship, but it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
In regards to what else is going on in the NBA.
How about the Miami Heat in what they're doing. Obviously
Alec Burks is going to get a one year deal
with them, and yeah, there's it's a slow you know sports,
there's not his whole lot going on right now. But
with the with the Heat trying to add on, what
does that say with with what they're trying to do
down there in Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, I don't know. All that's fine. They got
to figure out are they going to keep Jimmy Butler
get rid of Jimmy Butler? Or if they get rid
of him, can they what can they get return they
keep them? Can they still can they score enough? I
just the idea of Heat culture is great, but you
can't score buckets. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
And lastly, Doug Johntay Porter, we obviously this story has
been out for a while, but with the NBA and band,
but he's going to be charged with a federal felony
with a court date yet to be announced. That according
to the Associated Press.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, this is a real issue. Right when you shave
points on games, that is a federal offense. So that's
a that's a massive, massive, massive issue, and that is
the press.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That was the press, all right, Well, tomorrow's fourth July,
which means if you can't like I like buying fireworks,
please don't think I'm an anti firework guy. Just you know,
don't light them and try and hold on to and
throw them. You gonna blow stuff up a lot of
you guys. If you live in a small town, you know,
you get the off duty volunteer firefighter, like, have them
(37:44):
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do the midway, middle of the day, middle of the show,
middle of the week. But we just we got Joe
Varden who's going to join us momentarily and he covers
the entire league for the Athletic and I thought he'd
be a great guy to get on considering all of
(01:04):
the movement, and Joe, of course is also clevered previously
that just to Cleveland Cavaliers. They're an interesting story, nonetheless,
But what I find to be fascinating is you know,
no one shares the details of relationships or what's going
on in the thick of it. They don't. But when
the season is over, or when a trade is consummated
(01:26):
or a guy leaves, now all bets are off and
things where little things become big things. Seeds that were planted.
And the more you hear about Clay Thompson's departure from
the Warriors, the more you understand that relationship was done.
He was miserable there. And like, again, some of this
(01:49):
is psychology. We did it, ask the coach, and I'll
just be honest that I knew this coming in, but
I didn't know it to this extent, like being a
basket coach college and pro and even high school to
a certain extent, So much of it is psychology. Yet
but you got you got to be dime store a psychologist,
you know, because the coaching guys one way and the
(02:12):
hard dime of breaking the guy down and building back up,
like you just you don't have the time to do
that with all the guys you don't And yeah, you
just it becomes very very difficult, very difficult to see
that as see that as a way in which you're
(02:32):
always going to be successful, So you have to Jimmy
Johnson says this. Remember Jimmy Johnson, I'm talking about the
Fox NFL analyst, former National Championship and NAST Championship coach
and coach of the Miami Dolphins. He always said, you
coach everybody the same different. But the more you hear
about Klay Thompson and his time at the end with
(02:52):
the Warriors, the more you're like, yeah, that, no, wonder
that thing ended with that. Joe Varden joins this course.
He covers the NBA for the Athletic What do what
do you think of Klay Thompson, not just leaving the
Warriors for the MAVs, but the fact that he shunned
the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Doug I love coming on as always, and this is
as fascinating a topic as there is. I mean, I
just I've had some conversations with some of these some
of the people there in the last twenty four to
forty eight hours, and he just Klay wanted out, he
(03:30):
wanted to change. He didn't have to leave, you know,
the Warriors wanted him back, certainly like the people who
coached him and teammates, you know, wanted to continue being
his teammate, but he he was ready for a new scene.
And I don't I just don't think that there was
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going to be anything that happened that changed his mind.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Why not the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know what, Doug that one. I don't know as well.
It's hard to understand, you know, the mascinations with you know,
whether it's the money or you know, I mean fit wise,
like I guess you would, you would think that playing
alongside of passing Lebron would be something that that Clay
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would like other than you, I guess you get to
play with the long, the younger version of him, with
Luca and and and then maybe you know, Clay may
be more comfortable playing for Jason Kids than JJ Reddick.
That's a possibility as well. I mean he's not you know,
we know he's not breaking the bank in Dallas. So
(04:41):
I admit here that I am speculating. But if you
just think about Jason Kidd now has proven himself as
not only an NBA coach, but as a player's coach.
Somebody who probably has a similar demeanor, maybe looks at
things in a way that's similar to Clay so there's that,
(05:02):
and then you know, playing alongside Luca and Kyrie. I mean,
if you think about with Clay, like going back to
some of his time with Team USA, like he spent
some of those years with Kyrie, and Kyrie is a
lot better, you know, in a lot better place.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
We talked about that, but Luca, he actually for being
the league league sport, he actually also creates a ton
of opportunities for players. Uh, and the Mavericks are desperate
for a spot up shooter. I think like their record
when Tim Hardaway Junior makes four th reason a game
is just some outrageous number. So Clay's gonna feels like
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he's going to get a lot of open shots there.
And so I just think, you know, and then he
could do that in a place where like he doesn't
have that family tie, like in Golden State, like yes
he was a splash brother, Yes he helped build things there,
but if there was a shadow, it be sets he'd
be playing kind of understand shadow. And then in in
(06:01):
l A, you're talking about bron and ab Shore, but
then also his death, you know, and there's that storyline,
so he can go to Dallas, he can get a
fresh start, he's gonna get a million open looks, and
he's playing with you know, maybe maybe a coach that
that he can understand and and vibe with.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Joe Barton joining us, you're right to the athletic he
joined to the Doug Outleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,
how does the league view what the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think you know, like if you, if you, if
you go back, and if you can you can imagine
as this story has played out, not only not only
over the last few weeks, but really months in the
whole year, when you start thinking about the speculation of
is Bronni gonna come out? Okay, he is? Is he worth?
(07:00):
Like is he worth the draft pick? And so there's
been a million conversations about this, and there there are
from there are talent evaluators who say, yeah, he's not
he's not bad, like he's you know, he's young, he
needs more time, but he's not bad. So I think
by and large, the league understands a few things. One
(07:24):
from the if you want to use the word nepotism
or whatever, fine, but like Lebron is lebron wants this
as maybe his parting gifts for what he has done
for the league. He's earned this, so I don't think
anybody's going to have too big of a problem with
it from that perspective. But then the second thing is
(07:47):
people get drafted on flyers all the time, and you
know this, you know, there are players from Europe that
get stashed over there and then they get brought over
and and maybe they stink, or maybe they never come over,
or maybe they you know, somebody's playing in Australia and
they come over and they're they're bad, and they they're
(08:10):
hardly ever in the you know, like in the NBA.
Like this kind of thing happens all the time. So
if the Lakers are taking a flyer on Bronnie James
because because of who his father is, that's okay, that's fine.
I think the final point I would make is, you know,
Lebron has spent the last twenty one years empowering people
(08:34):
around him who are the closest to him. And there
are a few examples of this. There are three that
I want to mention, Rich Paul, he helps Rich start
that agency. Maverick Carter, his longtime business manager who now
runs you know, all of the Lebron media Empires. And there's
(08:55):
a third guy who's really good, Brandon Wims, who's an
executor with the Cats, grew up with Lebron and certainly
got his first job in Cleveland because of that time.
But all three of those guys have taken their opportunity
that they got by being so close to Lebron and
run with it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Run with it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Rich. Paul is arguably the most He's one of the
most powerful agents in sports. Maverick Carter is rich beyond
what you and I could fathom. And that's even with
your multiple jobs. But anyway, like Mattrick Carter's done amazing,
and Brandon Wims is a respected NBA executive that has
(09:40):
nothing to do with Lebron. To there you have Ronnie
Janes who gets this opportunity with the Lakers. Who's to
say that he doesn't run with it?
Speaker 4 (09:48):
What if?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What if he blossoms in the next couple of years
and become a guy that can come off the bench
and give you real NBA minutes, Like you know, that's
what I'm looking for. It's not well, how or why
does he have this opportunity? It is what does he
do with it?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah? I guess I guess the issue with it is
like just the ridiculous levels to which they lie, right,
JJ Redick with He's he's earned it through his hard work,
Like Dalton Connects. Dalton connect by the way we sit
on the other side, Dalon connect went to junior college
to Northern Colorado to Tennessee and Dalt connect earned it. Right.
I'm not saying that le Broni doesn't work hard, but
(10:26):
like again, like what are we doing here? You know,
you lose people with with that stuff, even when and
so if that's the sale, if it's the hey, look
he had a setback with the hard issue. His best
basketball is still ahead of him. I've said this in
the past. I believe it the way he plays in
which he doesn't really need the basketball. He plays out
(10:47):
the ball like and he's just kind of a role
player that sets him up potentially for a successful future.
But he's so far from being there that, yeah, you
need the you need the G League, which is where
he's going to be. But the rich Paul, we're not
doing a two way contract act, the four year guaranteed
contract for a second rounder like never done before. All
of these things are just kind of bordering on ridiculous
(11:08):
to where it makes most of us roll our eyes.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, yes, yes, and there yes, I will, I will
agree to all of that. I don't think JJ needed
to quite go that far, you know. I think that
probably what he was referring to is that he's turned
himself into a player who is like, let me put
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this on.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I know the.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
James family well enough to say that if Brownie would
get hurt or be embarrassed, and we can discuss what
we mean by embarrassed but embarrassed doing this, they wouldn't
have done it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
So he's worked.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
He has worked, worked hard enough to put himself in
position to be considered. You know, would you have been
drafted if that was his last name with something else?
You know, we know that. But he has put in
the work, and he did overcome the heart thing to
one year later to be like okay and being able
to you know, go out there and compete. I mean
(12:10):
that that's fine. JJ went too far with that the contract.
I will, I will agree. You know they're going you know, uh,
they're going there, They're they're going the full board here.
He's got his four years. But I just think, you know,
I think that, like we all know what it is,
(12:31):
and so like we don't like the Lakers don't have
to bend over backwards to say that it isn't And
let's all now just see what he does with it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, Joe Barden joining us covers the entire NBA for
the athletic It's interesting we talk about Lakers, We'll talk
about the Knicks, talk about the Sixers. How much of
America is going to miss on what the Thunder are doing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I know, and they are, I mean they yeah,
they like yeah, the heart Heartenstein, you know, is the
latest thing, and they were one of the best teams
in the NBA all year. They still have all just
all this capital to work with. They are, Yeah, there's
something to behold, you know. Like so like when you
(13:16):
try to figure out what the lake, I get asked
all the time, like, you know, what does the Lebron
contract mean? Now he's back, Like can the Lakers do X,
Y or Z. Well, they can't be in the discussion
right now because of what's going on in Oklahoma City
in Minnesota. You know, Denver is still really good. But yeah,
I mean the Thunder are going to be as fun
(13:39):
of a team to watch as we have in the league.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, they're there. They got something pretty special ruin there.
I heard some people talking today about the pressure now
on Jewel Embiid. Is that fair? Does he have the
most pressure of anybody because he's the guy, the last
guy who has won one?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah? I think I mean to agree that these guys
feel pressure. I don't know, and I don't know if
Joel like takes these kinds of things to heart. But
my take on the Paul George contract there is it's
it's lovely, It's it turns the Sixers into a team
(14:19):
that's gonna that can be in the conversation with the
Celtics and the Knicks. But they haven't gotten very far
in the playoffs because Joel Embiid is not healthy in
April and met and I have news. If Joel Embiid
is not healthy next April or next May, then having
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Paul George there is not going to be the difference.
It's not enough. They Joel is what makes that team
the a contender. So when they suit up on October
eighteenth or whatever, it's going to be really exciting and
they're going to be, you know them with the Celtics
and the Knicks, we're going to be We're just going
to be crossing, you know, over the possibilities. But the
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Sixers are a legitimate contender if Joel Embiid can make
it through the regular season and be ready to go
when it really matters in the spring, and the last
couple of years he has been really banged up at
that point.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Joe, we know that you you you've covered Cleveland for
for years. What, Yeah, it feels like a bit of
an overcreate a correction for when they first lost Lebron.
How they've given the keys to the kingdom, you know,
and now to a guy who's really really good, but
(15:40):
I don't know if he's to that level in Donovan Mitchell.
Is that fair that that he's had the key, All
these deals, all these moves that are made are to
keep him happy and then he re signs. Is that
is that what what you feel like has happened?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, of course you're yes, Yes, that's that's precisely it.
That is the price of doing business in a small market,
and and probably the price of doing business in a
small market when you've been shunned twice by a megastar.
That's just how it is. And and yes, JB. Bickerstaff
(16:15):
works in Detroit now, uh in part because of Donovan.
And you know, Kenny Atkinson, like Dan Gilbert, had a
lot to do with with the hiring of the coach.
But but but Donovan gave his blessing there for sure,
and and so yeah, so he's under contract, you know
my you know at the athletic there's been some research
(16:38):
and some stories done about you know, teams don't typically
win when their best player is smaller, and right now,
Donovan is definitely their best player. So you know, they
become you know, Kobe Allman there, their president, said something
prescient when he made when he brought Donovan to Cleave
(17:00):
when from Utah. He said, they will actually be ready
to contend when Evan Mobley is ready to contend. And
he's still right with that. If Evan takes to jump
that he just everybody thought he might and he didn't
take the last couple of years, that changes them. And
so when you think about the future of the Cavs, like, yes, yes,
(17:23):
you're able. It's a huge deal to get Donovan back
and and he's going to be around for a while,
but for them to remain in the conversation with these
other three teams that you and I have been talking about.
They either need to change the roster, which I don't
know that they're going to do, or Evan Mobley needs
to be different from what from what he's been. And
(17:45):
that's that's the next story. You know, Donovan has the power,
he's got to hold up his end and and and
win in the playoffs for sure, But but he needs
Evan Mobley to take those steps forward to for this
team to really be something.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Joe Varden covers the NBA for the Athletic and does
a hell of a job. Joe, you the best man.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Have a happy fourth you.
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I thought we should get to a little midway, shall we.
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
It's dogging, It's time for.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
The midway.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, So the midway is Fourth of July related, is
it not?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Ja Stu, Yes, As I am prone to do earlier
before the show. I sent it to group text everybody
involved today saying for the Midway today, gentlemen, what sport
event or sports moment do you most associate with Fourth
of July? And I'd like to have a conversation, go
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around the room, and I'll tell you this is so random,
but it's something that I'll never forget because it's fourth
of July. I just looked it up the other day.
There's been three hundred and thirty five no hitters in
the history of baseball. How that pertains to my Fourth
of July memory. I remember when I was eleven years old,
Dave Righetti through a no hitter for the Yankees on
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the fourth of.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
July, Spaghetti Righetty.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
It's like I would never remember that Dave Righetti threw
a no hitter unless it happened on the fourth of July.
So my personal memory of something that happened on the
fourth of July sports related was from childhood, Dave Righetti
throwing a no hitter. And I'm just wondering if each
of the three of you have your own kind of
memory and or what event do you associate more this holiday?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Good question, that's a good question. Well, my personal memory,
it's not necessarily a sports memory either, But there was
an earthquake a couple years agoing forward July. I remember that.
But when I was a kid, I was in sixth
grade and Brook and Robin Lopez's older brother Alex was
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my teammate on I joined their team for the AAU Nationals.
We end up winning the national champiship, but I was
in sixth grade. We're in Bellevue, Washington, and we bought
a bunch of fireworks. And the thing about kids that
grew up in California is we don't have a lot
of fireworks. The illegal ones that we get from from
Mexico back then were more m eights, which you are
(20:49):
just little sticks of dynamite and they blow things up. Now,
I think, obviously there's a lot of the upper end
fireworks for Mexico to make the way here. So when
we went to Washington, State of Washington, and they had
all these fireworks like it was kids in a candy store.
We bought a bunch and I had this box of
like missiles and you'd light it with It was really cool.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Well, like the box looks like Krans, right types of
Crans oh, yes, those areas over.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It tipped over, and it flew at some of the
parents and landed in one mom's hair, and it was
not great. I laugh to myself. I tried to act
like I cared. She was fine, but a little sindeed
hair that was great. Finleyk Sam.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Yeah, Doug, I associate fourth of July with seeing an
athlete and you were talking about fireworks, not knowing the
right safety protocol for fireworks. It seems like every year
in the news, whether it's Jason Pierre Paul and that
fireworks accident or somebody else in another sport. Every year, Doug,
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we're hearing about an accident, and we just hope that
it's not a big name player in any sort of sport.
But it seems to be commonplace tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I don't think it's commonplace.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You don't think.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Every every year.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
We heard about it. Here's the thing I think some
are you.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Everybody knows. Jason Bierpoul I told my team about it today.
Oh you did, okay, And I said, there are three reasons,
and like, what do you mean three reasons? And I said,
showed a picture of his hand. Three reasons why you
gotta be careful about about fireworks. But I don't think
it's commonplace.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Or it's not reported.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
But yeah, you're probably right.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
I mean what is commonplaces? The are the videos obviously
the more more phone videos we've gotten over the year. Yeah,
there's that one that's just ridiculous. I don't even know
if it was last year or before. The people sitting
in the front yard with the front the stash, what
about the.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Guy on the what about the guy on the wheelchair
the wheel Oh yeah, that one. That one's great, like.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Get away, get away. He's like, we're going away like
a half a mile an hour.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
But you would think that that was doctor, the one
with all the family in their front yard. But yeah,
it's it's actually true, but it looks like it's one
of those like that must have been doctor.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Here's here's a question, Jace. Do I think you if
we could put together all the things that are annoying,
especially about LA, that we hate, and then fire fireworks
off at the same time into them, right, like the
people who what's the what's it called when they do
the street things with the.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Stars street takeover?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Street takeovers? Yeah, right, we combine street takeovers. Global climate
change protesters right, people who like in front of children
do the ass shaking thing and fireworks all at the
(23:49):
same time, like and and they would all have fireworks
fired at them, like mistakenly and surprise them. I would
be really happy.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
That's a good point.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Like when those I don't know if it's street takeover,
maybe we're talking about different things. But when when they
start doing those donuts and then they show somebody getting
hit or killed.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Actually I actually like, I actually like I don't want
them to get killed, but like somebody getting hit by
a car because they're watching some other car.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
They're in a circle. It's there's not a space.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
It's yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I'm by the same way with the with people who
taunt animals, you know out in the wild, or or
people who do the running of the bulls, buffalo the bull.
I'm on like team bull. Like you mess with the bull,
you get the horns. I learned that from John John Hughes.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know that just happened a couple of weeks ago.
A bull got loose right and into the concourse.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And yes, now that one was that like a rodeo
in Oregon. Yeah, yeah, and the bull fence, the fence, Yeah,
who is the one who decided the height of the fence.
They're going like, hey, Jim, yeah, under the height of
the fence I did next year, I think we need
a foot higher.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
Bulls or what incredibly athletic? The underestimated the athletics, the
athleticism of the bull.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sure, sure, like Luke Longley kind of underrated athleticism. Quest right,
that's right, I was, but I was rooting for the bull. Wait, like, oh,
you got a toned bull. The bull hops over events,
Like oh, but think about the guy who designed the
height of the e fence.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Like.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Was that association on purpose? Did you pick Luke Longley
because he's a bull or did you just completely out
of that's good?
Speaker 1 (25:31):
No, there was that. There was definitely the the he
was a he was a bowl then.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
W that's really that was good.
Speaker 8 (25:39):
On the street teak takeover people are the worst though,
Like I started to hear some fireworks booms last night,
and I'm like, oh, great, but like, okay, it's of
the time of the season. But I remember twenty twenty
where we had no fireworks shows. They're all shut down
because of COVID. I was driving around and they were
just people. It looked like it. I'd never seen anything
(25:59):
like that in LA before. Like just driving around there
were fireworks going off everywhere.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It was crazy.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
I should pre I should report you for crimes during
COVID if you were driving, nobody was allowed to drive.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
That's not true. You're allowed to drive.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
I drive it.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
You have freedom of movement.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I have a great COVID story that I don't know
if I've ever told you.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh wow, So I lived. I was in California, that
left fifty one miles from the office. And the deal
I made with our boss was like I'd come into
three days a week because I could do it from home.
But the way in which I was doing it was
a little arcane, a little bit expensive, and it was
there was no traffic at all, right, which sounds great.
(26:42):
And the only places that were open, especially for probably
the first three months, were emergency places only, which apparently
is coffee, right, But those Starbucks and Coffee Bean and
Tea Leaf were open. The restrooms were not. And yeah,
I had I had some tough, a tough decision one
(27:03):
day on the can I make it there or can
I not make it? Let's just say I decided I
could not make it there pulled over the side of
the road and yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Was wow, that's incredible. Yeah, did you at least dig
a hole?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I did not dig a hole. Did not dig hole.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
He used a coffee cup.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No, no, not for this, Sam.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
What about you?
Speaker 4 (27:33):
July fourth sports?
Speaker 5 (27:34):
What comes to mind?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Sam?
Speaker 8 (27:36):
Not not a ton Other than you know, we're we've
last ten to fifteen years, probably because of Joey Chestnut
and Kobayashi, we've paid more attention to the air quote
sport that is competitive eating, but it is something to
watch on the day.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's definitely become a staple.
Speaker 8 (27:51):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, for most of us,
hot dogs are a part of the are part of
the Fourth of July cuisine. And you can enjoy a
vegan hot dog if you want. And I've never tried.
I'd like to try and just see if, like I
really could stomach that. But definitely the Fourth of July
Coney Island Nathan's famous hot dog eating contest, that probably
(28:12):
be the thing that most recently on my memory that
I would think about in correlation to Fourth of July.
The gluttony and the slobbery, the eating of wet buns,
it's very grotesque. I remember we embrace it because we're Americans.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Thirty years ago, I think we hosted the World Cup right,
thirty years ago, if I'm doing my mouth right, yes night.
I remember it was around July fourth, Maybe it wasn't
the day of or at least around It was the
game that we beat Columbia, and Colombia had the own
goal by that defender who was later murdered back in Colombia.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
I heard about that.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Yeah, accidentally scored a goal on his own team, and it.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Was an amazing thirty for thirty. Yeah, because the name
of the defender shares the name of Pablo Escobar.
Speaker 8 (29:03):
I guess it's just a string sad action.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And now much like, uh, who is the guy in Godfather?
He sleeps through the fishes? Right?
Speaker 6 (29:16):
Not Fredo?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
But no, no, no, who's up with the fishes?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I mean, I've seen the movie so many times. It's
so there's so many lines, you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Know, slips of fishes the midway. All right, let's get
let's uh, Luca Brassi, Luca Brazi, that's sleep sweet.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
Doug Gottleib Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having
a great day getting ready for an outstanding weekend. For
July is upon us. So basically like most people's weekends
kind of start today, right, A lot of people heading
out where of your heading out? I hope you're being safe.
That's like the third person I've heard tell me their
(30:08):
family's boat isn't working. Yeah, boat breakdown. That's that's a
that's a tough one. But for July, I mean that's
Thursday is a pretty good day for a holiday, right
then everybody gets out town on a Wednesday, then you
got Thursday nothing. Friday. Oh, we are working. We are working.
So uh tomorrow we'll have the DG Show as you're
(30:29):
rolling around on a on a Thursday afternoon or Thursday
midday if you're in the West coast, and then Friday, well,
the Dan Patrick Show and then we get our weekend
starts early. WHOA, Jase, do you doing the Dan Patrick
Show with me Friday morning?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
So I'll do Uh, I've committed to do one of
the two. I've got plans tomorrow, so you're on your
own and I'll be in with you on Dan Patrick
on Friday.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, fair enough, that's the plan. Let's get to the pressent.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
The press.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Hello there, Brian Finley.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What's in the press, Yeah, Doug.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
So we want to start with something that NFL grade
Tiki Barber said on his radio show where he had
some choice words for Austin Eckler concerning whether or not
he is a workhorse running back and has what it
takes to be a three hundred carry back.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Here is that sounds Austin Eckler said something the other day.
It was so discouraging, so discourageing. I had nothing to
do with anything.
Speaker 9 (31:31):
It just it was discourageing because he was asked about
why the Jim Harbaugh led Chargers weren't ideal for him,
or why it was why did they moved on from him?
And you know what his answer was, No, they want
a guy who can run the ball three hundred times
a season. That they want someone who can run the
ball three hundred times.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
So, in other words, Eckler was saying, he can't do that, yes,
but as a running back, you should go look at.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
How many times I ran the ball three hundred times.
It basically wasn't up to the chetwall. No, he's just saying,
it's not my game. It's not my game to be
Like to dude, you couldn't get me off the field.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
That's a tough thing for Eque to say when he's
the one waving for how much money he wanted.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
You want to be a bell cow or not be.
Speaker 9 (32:15):
On the field all the time, right, don't be a
liability on third down, catch the ball on the backfield,
truck it through the offensive line twenty five times a game, right?
Speaker 5 (32:25):
You want to get paid be that. That's what Christom
McCaffrey does.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
That dude has so many hundred percent participation games in
his career that makes no damn sense. I never had
hundred dred percent participation game. That is, play every game,
every snap. I've never done that. Christ McCaffrey's done it
like eight times. So you got you got the christ
McCaffrey's of the world who make nineteen million dollars a year,
(32:50):
and then you got these other guys who can't make
eight And you wonder why.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I actually like what T. E. Barber is saying there,
I do. I look, I think Austnckler does a lot
of things he's not especially this time in his career.
He's not in every down back and it's a completely
different system. You Know's what's interesting about Ausnckler. And this
one's hard because I really like him and he was
(33:17):
a really good charger, was he? It did feel like
he lost that, not the edge. But remember like this
is a guy undrafted, unheralded and made it to being
a star running back in his role. And you know,
the Chargers did a good job of placing him in
a salary structure, work to work for them and pretty
(33:40):
well for him. But I think he lost a little
bit of that and became a little bit entitled. I
remember he was one of the main guys last year
when it was the summer of discontent for the running backs. Like, dude,
like he got to know who you are at some point,
and I don't think he does.
Speaker 7 (33:56):
Here's the next one, Doug showy Otani. We're not going
to see him on July fifteenth hitting meatballs in the
batter's box at the home run derby. Obviously people want
to see him do it, but he says no, thanks,
What say you?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I mean, Jay Stu has been a big opponent of
him being in the home run Derby, right, and Jay
has said, hey, it's because of his surgically repaired elbow,
Like you don't want why would you put him in
in harm's way and have all that repeated use. My
pushback to that is people I've talked to is like, look,
they play home run Derby in their second and third
at bats in VP every day. Anyway, I disagree with it.
(34:40):
The baseball, especially the All Star Game, is flat. Nobody cares,
nobody pays attention. Here's the guy with the biggest salary
in the history of American sports. He's with a new
team in the Dodgers. He's second in the league in
home run hitting. He's right there tracking towards Maris's type
of record or towards you know, he's not going to
break Barry's record because he's not a steroid dude. Anyway,
(35:01):
I think they need him there because that's that's a big,
big night. Do I think it's boring, Yes, Do I
think it's jumped to shark, Sure, but it's still a
night in which all the corporate sponsors love, and I
just think he needs to be there for the.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Sport, Doug.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
To further your point, Yeah, you're talking about the injury
and he's recovering, of course from the injured elbow ligament.
He's taken part of the derby once, that was back
in twenty twenty one, but as you said, he's going
through rehab progression. Doesn't want to risk anything. We're hearing
more and more NBA free agents moving to new teams,
and some of them today, Doug would be how about
(35:36):
this move Joe Ingles going on a one year deal
to the Timberwolves and what that can do for the
t Wolves as they continue to make that push for
a championship.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
I don't remember what happened to Joe Ingles last couple
of what happened to him? Where's he been?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Well, he was in Orlando. You know, he's bounced around.
He was with the Utah Jazz for a while.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, no, we he was in Jazz when he's really good. Yeah,
that was a couple of years ago when he was
really good. Yeah. I mean gives them big body, left
hand guy, can shoot, knows how to play man. No,
down't think we'll win them a championship, but it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
In regards to what else is going on in the NBA.
How about the Miami Heat in what they're doing. Obviously
Alec Burks is going to get a one year deal
with them, and yeah, there's it's a slow you know sports,
there's not his whole lot going on right now. But
with the with the Heat trying to add on, what
does that say with with what they're trying to do
down there in Miami.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, I don't know. All that's fine. They got
to figure out are they going to keep Jimmy Butler
get rid of Jimmy Butler? Or if they get rid
of him, can they what can they get return they
keep them? Can they still can they score enough? I
just the idea of Heat culture is great, but you
can't score buckets. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
And lastly, Doug Johntay Porter, we obviously this story has
been out for a while, but with the NBA and band,
but he's going to be charged with a federal felony
with a court date yet to be announced. That according
to the Associated Press.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, this is a real issue. Right when you shave
points on games, that is a federal offense. So that's
a that's a massive, massive, massive issue, and that is
the press.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Get out there and press.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That was the press, all right, Well, tomorrow's fourth July,
which means if you can't like I like buying fireworks,
please don't think I'm an anti firework guy. Just you know,
don't light them and try and hold on to and
throw them. You gonna blow stuff up a lot of
you guys. If you live in a small town, you know,
you get the off duty volunteer firefighter, like, have them
(37:44):
stand by, and then you know, get cook a bunch
of food, maybe some carcass and listen to Fox Sports
Radio because we'll be on tomorrow, same bad time, same
bat channel. Also check out the podcast. You can download
it right now type been Doug Gottliebeer every download podcast.
I think you'll enjoy it. Hey, have a very safe
drive wherever you're going. Tune in tomorrow. This is the
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