July 8, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug gives his honest opinion of Bronny James and his first Summer League game performance. Doug weighs in on Paul George's reason for leaving the Clippers. Doug welcomes NBA Insider Ric Bucher onto the show to break down Bronny's first game, the Lakers' off-season and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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the country. And uh, we have some sports to talk about,
believe or not. We've gone from talking about the WNBA
to NBA Summer League and the second round draft pick.
That's where we are right now. As we're waiting, waiting,
waiting for some we got some All Star Game discussions
to get to. We have more discussion on what Paul
George had to say in regards to kind of in
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his mind letting us in on their contract negotiations with
the Clippers. But let's start with Ronnie James playing his
first I guess professional game, right summer league game in
Sacramento for the LA Lakers Summer League team. And what
I find to be interesting is, you know, again, how
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we do what we do in the media, Like you've
clearly aligned with a side based upon many of the
much of the commentary, and as I've told you before,
in politics and in life, I operate on the same premise.
I am a radical centrist. Now what does that mean.
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That means I don't feel like I need to always
side with one side because that's what side I'm aligned with.
I do what I think, I think what I do,
and I try and do what I believe to be
the right thing on a daily basis, and I sometimes
I come up short. And when I took over this job,
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I love the idea of going to be in the
portal because the portal is all college basketball players and
evaluating college players versus college players and levels of college basketball.
Felt like I was pretty quipped for what I didn't
know if I was equipped for. Is the evaluation of
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watching a high school player and what he'll look like
in a year or two years or three years in college.
And that's something I think it's kind of an art,
but in terms of what a college player looks like
as opposed to other college players, and what a college
player looks like in his translation in his transition to
the pros, I feel like I got a pretty good
beat on it. So let me give you a radical
centrist perspective of Ronnie James first game. It's it's called
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j a g jag or a jag. Okay, a jag
is just a guy. That's what Bronnie James looked like.
I know, we could point to the stats and it's like, oh,
he was bad, he was not great, But it wasn't
because of the stats. It's because he's just kind of
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a guy. Now, Lebron has said, hey, I don't care
about the stats. It's about the development. So what are
you developing? What are you developing? What role will Bronnie
James have if he really really wants to make it
in the NBA. Here's Lebron doing a sit down with
the with the ESPN talking about Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know if people really understand Bronnie, he doesn't care.
I actually cared a little bit when I came out.
I wanted people to like like me, and some of
the things that people were saying about me kind of
bothered me early on in my career.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I let it get to me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't get up, he doesn't, he does
not care about nobody's he doesn't even listen to that stuff.
He's like the complete opposite of his dad. His dad
will say something, Yeah, Bronnie does not care like me personally.
When I was coming up, I had no choice. I
literally had no choice. I had to make it out
like I had no choice. I had to make it
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out for me, my mom, my family. Ronnie has all
the choices in the world. So it's like a whole
other people don't understand how hard that is in the
commitment for him to be coming out of heart surgery
less than a year ago, for him to be able
to be in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's the kid is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's special, but he doesn't care. He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It doesn't, it doesn't bother. I understand, completely understand, and
you have to have that sort of thick skin, and
I actually agree with that the premise of, hey, you
know it's it, give me hard to make it even
when you have all these things at your disposal, because
there's no reason for you to have to work. Just isn't.
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If Ronnie never plays basketball again, he's fine financially fine,
not just working for his dad on his own. So
I actually do respect that. I think that's one that
people roll their eyes at, and I would say, yeah,
I get that a little harder than people think. You know,
you always compared to your debt. On the other hand,
on the other hand, if you look at it a
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different way, it's that you're right. He doesn't play like
he's trying to prove himself. He doesn't play with the hunger,
with the anger, with the competitiveness that translates that looks like, hey,
you want to tell me you're a point guard, how
about guarding the point guard? How about picking him up
ninety four feet? How about making life living hell on
that guy. It's what so many people don't understand about basketball.
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You can have a really high level high school defender
come into college and like, the kid doesn't know what
he's doing because it's a different level and a different sport.
Then you step up to the NBA, and it's even
harder when the roles change differently. If you're gonna be
six one and a half and you're gonna play in
the NBA and you're a backup guard off the bench,
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when that ball goes in the basket and you're on
offense and you switch the defense, you better be up
and guarding ninety four feet and pressuring and just being
a nuisance. Jose Alvarado is the perfect example of it.
You're always got head on the swivel and trying to
figure out where he is, what's he doing before you
go and do anything, because you think Jose Alvarado is
gonna take this basketball from me, and Broanni just doesn't
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have that. Some of that is can be tiresome in
terms of some of the hunger and need to get
after it. It can lead to thirsty plays if you will,
but some of it, in truth, is what you need
and he doesn't have. Look, all of that stuff Leabron
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can say is great. He is a great kid. I
don't care. I'm not evaluating based upon the type of
human being. He is the type of player he is,
and he wants very little to do with any sort
of the backup point guard duties, which include pushing the
ball in transition, getting your team into something gay, moving
the basketball, and guarding ninety four feet and really pressuring
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it being the nuisance. It's it, honestly is Bronnie has
been watching real NBA guys do it his whole life.
He has been going through the exact same process. But
he has not and he needs to play a ton
but he has not played enough. The knee issue, knee swelling,
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that's all just the team shutting him down for a day,
giving him ty to rest because they know Vegas is
going to be hard on him. But the actual analysis
from coach gottliebiz, I don't see any sort of desire
to be at either end of the floor. A point
guard or league guard just kind of wants to stand
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over in the corner of the ball is thrown up
to him, try and go get a bucket. It doesn't
mean that he won't be better in game two or whenever.
That Game two is just like Victor Webbin, No, I'm
a struggle in game one was finding game two. I
don't care. You're right, I'm with Lebron. I don't care
about the stats, but I watched the game, and there
was nothing dynamic about him defensively and offensively. You know,
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a couple of times he got straight line drives. Other
than that, he just wants It's like he gets the
ball with the idea of mind, how quickly can I shoot?
How quickly can I shoot? Yes, Sir Jason.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Tourrett, Can we go back to what Lebron said about
Browny doesn't care what you think and or doesn't give
an f what you think, Which is a side note,
by the way, Lebron taking what JJ Reddick said at
his press conference, he doesn't give an F. That should
be the Lakers model this season. We don't give an
F because they're probably gonna be like the ninth or
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tenth seed. Right Anyways, Bronni doesn't care what you think.
Isn't Lebron a little us led here? I don't think
the criticism, everything that's been written and said about Bronnie,
I don't think it has ever in an indictment on
the kid as a person or his effort or anything
like this. I always thought the criticism this whole time
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was about Lebron, about Rich Paul, and about this system
that kind of pushed this kid through who isn't really deserving.
But it's never really been criticism of Bronni himself. So
when he says he doesn't care like Lebron is deflecting
right because the criticism has been basically targeted towards Lebron
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this whole time.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, I think there's some of that. Yeah, there's a
lot of it that's targeted towards Lebron, and but there's
a lot of it in which here's my biggest issue
with his group is that reasonable analysis is called criticism. Okay,
I mean to me, it's you can analyze and critical,
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but not have criticism. There's no ability for anybody to
ever improve. And like this his whole thing with her,
he's got to develop. There's no chance you ever develop
if you tell everybody, hey, everything he did was great,
Like nobody develops that way ever. Ever, what Lebron is
guilty of is many people in our business are guilty
of that. Hey, I want feedback. Then you give somebody
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negative feedback, You're like, WHOA, why are you so negative? Like, dude,
you want feedback? Right? Do you want a feedback? Either
you want to get better? You don't. Everyone says they
want to get better. Everyone says they want feedback, everyone
says they want to improve, But real improvement comes from
people who you trust, who you respect, who've been through it,
who said like, yeah, I don't like that, I like that,
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this is not good, this gotta be better. This is
pretty good leading into that. But that's not how Lebron operates.
He because he's been surrounded by sycophants for so much
of his life, he believes that everybody should treat Ronnie
even that way. And while he's right, it is yet
less the year removed from heart surgery. The fact is
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that no other player would have been drafted in the
first two rounds as a borderline prospect if they were
coming off of heart surgery, all of those things. If
you want to point to it to nepotism or you know,
just unbelievable athlete advantage, I just that's not criticism in
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the purest sense. That's reality. No one else would get
that opportunity other than Brownie, and he only got that
opportunity because of your last name and because you push
for it.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
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Speaker 1 (11:50):
So one of the great things about players having their
own podcasts is they can if they want, they can
share their perspective on their contract negotiations. George did just that.
We're here from Rick Buker upcoming. Bu could join us
in about four or five minutes, but before that, Paul
George has his own podcast. He said this about why
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things didn't work out with the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's why I had to stop the negotiations during the
season because it was personal, Like that's how y'all view me,
you know what I mean, which is fine and all
of this. That's why it's no love lost, no heart feelings.
Like if that's how y'all view me, fine, that's cool.
Now I gotta go somewhere else. There's nothing wrong with that.
Then I hear whend of like you know what they're
gonna give Kawhi. So I'm like, just give me what
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Kawhi got, like y'all view us the same, like you know,
we came here together. I'll take what Kawhi got, like,
no problem. I was cool with that. Now we're going
to negotiations. Now they now they bring it to three
years one point fifty. All right, that's cool. It sucks
that it had to get to this point like that.
They couldn't we couldn't get this figured out a lot sooner.
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But now we at the end of the year, three years,
one fifty. So I'm like, all right, like now we're
in We're in the ballpark, you know what I mean.
Now we can have conversation here. I presented the three
one fifty no trade because in the meeting, they're like,
you know, we want you here long term, we want
to you know, when you're retired, we want you to
be a Clippers for a lifetime, like all of this stuff.
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So I'm like, cool, give me the three years one
fifty no trade. Then like no trade clack. Then I
now like I'm taking less. At least I know I'm here,
like I'm committed to y'all. Like they didn't want to
hear the no trade.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
So then now I'm like, all right, well then it
only makes sense for me to do four years to twelve, right, like,
at least pay me my money. If y'all gonna trade me,
then y'all gonna trade me. But at least, like now
I'm not in a situation where I could have got
more had I just gone to free agency, then take
this deal and then y'all could just ship me wherever
I want. And then now I'm on this deal that
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I didn't want. So they didn't want to do that.
So now I was like, now like, now I'm open
to entertaining what's out there.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So what do they mean by all that? The first
thing that's interesting is they did get to one fifty,
you know they did. They got to one fifty. That's
fifty million dollars a year. And the reason they didn't
want to go to the fourth year was that would
put him over the second tach tax aprin so, and
they didn't view him at the same level as Kawhi Leonard,
and I think that's fair. The only reason you would
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judge him at the same level or above Kawhi letters
because Kawhi has perceptions and it's reality on many levels
of being heard a lot. But Kawhi has is far
more accomplished during his time in the playoffs than than
Paul George's. We'll find out what's behind that in a moment. First,
So let's let's get you to Moncey Bolognos and get
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you a quick update, Monci.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
You know, Doug, I did not like any of that
of what Paul George said about the contract with the Clippers.
As a Clippers fan, I just I don't believe you.
You literally got the three years, one hundred and fifty
and what you just said, we don't view you the
same as Kawhi. Whether you think that's fair or not,
but you haven't delivered during the playoffs when it mattered,
aside from maybe one postseason while you were with the Clippers,
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and it's just so annoying to hear it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's just look, I think I would I would classified
as unfair to say he hasn't delivered, only in that
you know, they just were never both healthy.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yes, yes, the planned, but.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
He is not a carry a team on his own
sort of guy.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
He has said that. He has said that, So it's like,
what do you mean you want the same as Kawhi?
Like I I. He's left a bad taste in my
mouth the last couple of weeks, which is annoying.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So let's welcome in. He's Rick Buker from Fox Sports
one Fox Sports dot Com as well. Uh, let's start
with with the brownie James he's played one game in
Summer League. They shut him down for game two. Uh,
what's your reaction to his first first games performance.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Reaction to first game performance is, I'm not shocked, not surprised.
I thought it was always it's going to be a
tough lift. It's difficult for me. I went to the
I went to Sunday's games. The level of play is
just horrific. I don't know, you know, talk to a
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number of scouts. I don't know what you take out
of watching that level of play. It's fairly embarrassing. And
so in the context of the play being incredibly low
and then Brownie not looking very good, it's it's not
a first it's it's not a first and a good
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first impression. All that said, you know, first time out,
the game is kind of floppy. It's it can be
difficult at times to look good in those circumstances. I
think the thing that troubles me the most is the
we've got a little bit of Nie sore ones after
twenty two minutes and he can't play at all the
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next game. That's that's not typical for a second round pick.
And if there was any question that Bronnie is entreated
different than any other second round pick.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That that would.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Be, that would be what I would look at as
as added as added evidence. It's just it's it's not
it's a tilted playing field because no second round pick
just trying to make the team, just trying to even
make the G League team is going to miss a
second a second game because of because of me, sotness
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and the other I'll tell you the other thing that
that disturbed me is the fact that JJ Redick was
not in the building. I saw Kurt Rambis, and for
a guy who's never coached before, I don't need him
necessarily on the bench, although Charles Lee was on the
bench for Charlotte, but at the very least, I'd like
to see him in the building, maybe behind the bench
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somehow involved, because I just don't get the sense that
people understand what a massive lift that is going to
be in the small term, in the you know, in
the small picture, for Bronnie James to actually get on
an NBA court and for JJ Reddick to actually coach
an NBA team.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, the whole thing. When I was told he was
being shut down right after the first game, that he
wasn't going to play in the second that was.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Pre planned, and I had a scout tell me that
I'm persing he did. He texted me and said, you know,
they're trying to cover for the fact that Bronnie didn't play,
didn't play well in the first game. And and my
thinking is, Look, the kid didn't play a whole lot
in college. He only played one year, he started late
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because of the heart surgery. He didn't start, He didn't
play like a ton of minutes, like he needs every
minute on the floor that he possibly can. And you
live with whatever it looks like, particularly, I mean particularly
as I said, in these games. Look, it's not going
to be any better in Las Vegas. It's gonna be
it's good. There's gonna be more eyeball and and the
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level of competition is only going to go up. So
I don't see how you find a path to making
Bronnie into whatever he's going to be without him actually
being on the floor and playing. It's not going to
happen in practice with the Lakers. I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That, Yeah, Doug ot Lap Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
I'll give you something to watch next time you watch
him play. Watch how few at times he actually wants
the ball in uh you know when when the ball
goes to the hoop, you know he's not calling for
the ball. He he goes he runs to the corner
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and which again, like they don't get me wrong, that's
what you teach guys that are three in d guys
do is to go and run to the corner in space,
and then you let let the guys that can really
play off off pick and roll, you let them play.
He will occasionally get an attack in transition, but he
does not play and up defensively. You didn't guard to
point guard, right, So you know, look, I think I've
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always believed that the fact that he doesn't need the ball,
he's not an over dribbler, he's not necessarily an alpha.
I actually think that bodes well for him because you
don't have to have crazy talent to make it. I
don't think he has the size to do so whatever.
But the fact is that if they want him to develop,
that's how you develop. You don't develop by one and
standing over the corner and ducking guarding the guy playing
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the ball screen. So I just I'm with you on
a multiple fronts. We should also balance it with a
last year, Wemby looked weak and didn't look like he
belonged in name one. I would agree with you though,
that this is we have We don't We had a
track record with Wemby to say he could play. We
don't have that one right now with with Bronnie. What
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about Lebron's comments in regards.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
To Bronnie, Look, it's a it's a father talking about
a son, and and I don't know that any of
us are objective about you know fully fully objective about
our offspring and what and what they're capable of. But
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I don't know. It just I don't want to be harsh,
but it just it all feels like propaganda. It's all propaganda,
whether it's propaganda about you know, the off season moves
and I'm just going to show up and I'm going
to be ready and then you know the whole I'm
going to put my jersey on and all of that.
I just I can't. I will say this. I don't
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know how people who cover Lebron do it, because I
I could not take what he says and report it
at face value. The number of eye rolls or inadvertent
laughs that I would have when he says stuff. It
just it wouldn't it would in the last law. And
so whether it's talking about BRONI or it's talking about
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the Lakers or any of it, I just it just
none of it feels authentic or since it's it's it's
the picture that Lebron wants to paint, and there's a
healthy enough media that will paint it however he wants it,
and and on we go. I I just can't. I
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just can't do it anymore, especially at this point. You know,
it's it's we're still playing this. You know, if they
just put the right pieces around him, he could win
another ring. It's I did this chart the other day,
like they got ninety two ninety three million dollars wrapped
up in Lebron in ad And this past season was
the first time that the two of them both played
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seventy games. Prior to that, it's been fifties and sixties.
And if you look at the other top duos around
just the Western Conference there for the most part, outside
of Booker and KD and Phoenix, they all make less
and they're all duos that you would take over this duo.
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So this idea that it's not the core that it's
just they don't have the surrounding pieces to be a
championship contender. Is just not looking at the reality of
the situation and that so it's it's really and I
don't want like I don't want to. I don't want
to disparage what Lebron is because I don't I'm not
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measuring him now. I'm not measuring who he is or
who he's been based on what I'm seeing now. But
I'm also not going to pretend like Lebron is the
same guy that he was four or five years ago,
when when he was arguably the best player in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, let me ask you this, what do you make
of Paul George's comments about how the Clippers low.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Baldinha smacks a lot of what I heard with Klay
Thompson ego getting the way of what is ultimately ideal
for a player and letting the negotiations and and what
somebody offers you. It's negotiations, and it's negotiations in a
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situation where the Clippers are dealing with a new reality
that Barbara can't just pay any price, that there are
restrictions that come with reaching that second Apron and and so,
and I heard you know, essentially it's the same with
Klay Thompson, Like you know, they made an offer to
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me that was that was insulting. Okay, I don't care
about the first offer, what was the last offer? What
was the best offer? Don't let your feelings get in
the way of making the best decision for you. And
I'm just I you know, I hope things go well
for for George and Philadelphia. I hope they go well
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for Clay in uh In in Dallas. But in both cases,
I feel like the players in question were already in
a better situation than they put themselves in. I don't
buy that than Paul George at this point, whether it's
his legacy or whether it's his opportunity to go further
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than he's gone in his career, that that is going
to be served by being in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Rick Buker, Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com,
you're the best buick. Thanks so much joining us. You
got it does So there's a lot there to unpack
with what Buker had to say, But I look, I
realized over the weekend lebron took what it mounts to
a two million dollars haircut? Right, I was willing to
take less? Well, yeah, he kept him out of the
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second apron, But fine, that's not really taking much, you know.
And this is one of those things where, for Paul George,
everyone says they want to win, everyone says all those
right things. Very few people are willing to do those things.
You know, are you want to take a pay cut? Sure?
Are you going to take a ten million dollar paycut?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, well then you don't really want to add somebody
and take less. Do you want to stay in LA? Yes?
Will you stay in LA for you know, without a
no trade clause?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Then you really don't want to, really don't want to.
I don't understand the Paul George, Hey, I want a
no trade clause and then you end up signing with
a different team Like that feels like something that was
incredibly negotiable, incredibly negotiable. There's a lot of steps being
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missed there. But everyone says they want feedback. Everyone says
they're willing to do what it takes to win to win,
and very few people are. That's kind of my read
on it. You know, they all want to win, but
they want to do it their way, and I can understand,
like if you've already won your Lebron James and you're like, yeah, maybe,
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but I just what happens is I understand. Let's just
start with Lebron and Bronnie. I understand what Lebron's saying.
It's like, look, you have to be impervious to any
of that outside noise. You have to not let it
bother you. The reality is all of it creates a
perception if Bronny can't play at this level yet, and
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he cannot, and you clearly forced it to happen, regardless
of whether or not JJ Reddick is great or is
not great, knows who he's doing is not, it just
creates a perception of like, yeah, whatever they missed in
the two million dollars shortfall they made up by giving
to Bronny, they're doing anything Lebron wants. And people just
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don't want to play on that sort of deal, Like
they just don't do it. I don't. Nobody wants to
play daddy ball, play for guys who do sons there
playing college or pro, and they don't want to do
it where the best player's son is on the team
and he's buddies with the head coach. That just doesn't
feel like a culture that has its eyes focused on winning.
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I don't think Brownie plays much except for, you know,
a game or two in the NBA. I don't see
any reason that JJ Reddick can't be a really, really
good coach. But the problem isn't the reality of it.
The problem is the perception of it. And as for
Paul George, I think you end up at a great
landing spot. I think they overpaid him, but I think
he gets to be a two A or two B
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sort of player with Tyrese Maxi and they got a chance.
The problem becomes that they're still dependent upon Joel Embiid
to be healthy and that's been a hit or miss prospect.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
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Speaker 1 (28:56):
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the tyree dot Com studio. Less, Let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
This is game Time gold Tag on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What do you got there, Monty Belognos.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Well, Doug, it is the start of the week. So
that's my favorite game.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Big deal, Little Deal, No Deal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It is my favorite game out of all the ones
that you have. I don't know why I get into it.
So let's start all right, Doug, big Deal, Little Deal
or no deal? That there are thirty two first time
MLB All Star players, including Paul Skin's Elie Dela Cruz.
Big Deal, Little Deal or no Deal.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, I think it's a big deal. I think it's
inflated by the fact that they added what was it,
six more All Stars? Some two? What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I know part of me wants to like that, you know,
like I like that there's more players, but all this
is telling me just because I think it's more exciting.
I went to the All Star game here in LA
and it is really fun to see all of the
players in one spot together. But this also means that
they're going to play less, or some players are going
to play less. So it's like I'm in between on this.
But it is really cool to kind of see all
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of those players in one spot at the same time.
You know, no, no, you don't, well, well, I like it, don't.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
There's supposed to be some sort of exclusivity to it,
and we just make it worse and worse.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
But the exclusivity is still there. I hear what you're saying. Yes,
it is become. How many players are in baseball coming
in and out of major league rosters, it's still there.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, why does every team have to have an All Star?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Well, I also am in favor of that just for
the fans of the team.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
White Sox fans don't want to see any White Sox.
The A's don't have any fans, So why do we care.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
To incorporate I know, I know, I know I'm alone.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Now an All Star or you're not an All Star.
It doesn't depend. Doesn't You don't have to have one
guy like you just don't.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
I know, I'm alone. I mean, I know I'm alone
on that alone.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
There's a lot of people are traditionally it's like, hey,
that's you know. I just I don't like the answer. Well,
that's how it's always been done, So I don't think that.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
I just like the incorporation of just for everybody. But
you do make a point that there are some teams
that maybe don't want to see their own players on it.
That's a good just that like.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Nobody can like that's not what an All Star is.
And All Star is the best players.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah, we just we are getting further away from that. Okay, okay,
before I.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Get before before that. So I just weren't they expanded
the rosters? Yeah they did. Yeah, yeah, what's up with that?
Because you know that there's gonna.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Deal with them expanding the rosters.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You know there's gonna be injury replacements, so it's gonna
be watered down even more because of Mookie Bets and
all these people that can't play.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
It's like, well, maybe it interesting if they don't do that,
then yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I don't know. I'm with Doug on this one.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, fine, I'll be all alone. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh, I feel like it's a Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, a
star outside.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Gavin Stone's not an All Star and I think he
should have been for the Dodgers. But I digress. Okay,
big deal, little deal, no deal that the Yankees have
won just four out of their last seventeen games. They
have one of the worst records since June thirteenth. If
you're not like Aaron Judge or Juan Soto, you're not delivering.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're not playing like a bunch of savages. Obviously, the
issue there not a bunch of Savages. Not great, No, no, one,
big deal, big deal. You know a team that that
was humming along and now all of a sudden you
get to midway point and you're limping into the into
the break. Yeah, that's not a good deal. That's a big,
big deal.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
My boyfriend is a Yankees fan, and he thought they
came out too too hot of a start. He's like,
this is not that. This team should not be that good.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Something to that. Yeah, it was kind of fool's goal.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Yeah, he was like, this is not this is we
should not be winning like this. He's like, I don't
like it. It's it's gonna crash and burn before we
know it. So we'll see. We're getting halfway, you know,
to the season, so we'll see. Okay, let's move on.
A little soccer for you, Doug. Big deal, little deal,
no deal that the US men's soccer team has not
fired their head coach, Greg Burlder.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Are they in the Olympics?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I don't do we know.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's see. I mean, I literally have no idea and
I'm not afraid to have a minute. Is the US
men's national team in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The US did not qualify for the Olympic team.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
No, so we're not in the Olympics. No, and we
host the World Cup win in two years?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Wait there there, Yeah, we are going to the Summer
Olympics in Paris. Jason.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, the first time they're there. That's what I meant.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
They are there first time since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, So, I mean, you're not gonna fire It's no
big no deal, no big deal. They're not not going
to fire him with like a month before, a couple
of weeks before the Olympics start, are they.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I just feel like the consensus around has been that's
what happened.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
List you are half my age. Okay, So I'm just
gonna tell you, for my entire life, soccer has been
the sport of the future, and for entire my entire
broadcast in life, every time the US men's national team
under chiefs, they want to fire the.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Coach half your age.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Huh, I'll take it. I just feel like the consensus
around has been that there's no culture.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
They're like, the first number is the first number of
two or three in what never mind an age?
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Oh my age? Oh it's a three, it's a three.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I was like, what douggies are there, Doug is near
retirement age.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now, no, I'm not. I'm not that old, but I mean, yeah,
she's Monthsy's much younger. Okay, maybe half my age is
a little bit of exaggeration.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
No, well we'll just say that though much younger.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And so I'm just telling you, like this goes back
to any time I remember watching soccer. Literally, every time
they lose, they go back they're like fire the coach.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Yes, Yet nobody ever goes.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Like, hey, these guys they kind of stick. They'll all
say like they don't have great energy and they don't
play with me. Soccer is analyzed so differently than than
sticking ball sports in the States.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's a no big deal to me. I don't know,
why would you fire a guy a couple weeks for
the for the Olympics. After the Olympics, if you want
to make a change with less than two years left
before they get to the to the World Cup. By
all means, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
All right, second, I just feel like we need to
start over. Let's start. Let's start the segment over all. Right,
So here, here's the deal. Will Burholtzer coach Olympic team?
The answer is no, According to this MBS article, who
will coach the Olympic team? Serbian American Marco Mitrovich will
be the coach. I guess the Olympic team is a
completely different team than the collection of pros that we
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play international ball. Yeah, different coach.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Did anybody like I want everybody to be honest here,
Did anybody know this before we did this?
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Of course not. I didn't even think we had a
team in the Olympics. So that's how we got to
start all over.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Did you know? No, I'm not afraid to admit it,
like this stuff needs to be broadcast. Yeah, so who's
playing in the is it? Are the college kids playing
the Olympics?
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Uh, it's no. I don't think there is a nineteen
year old. He's the youngest player on the on the.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Roster, we have no idea.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Yeah, but no, there's thirty one, twenty five. I'm looking
at the ages.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, big mic, Just so, there's an age restriction on
the Olympic roster.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
So wait, so why don't we have the national team
playing the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I don't know. We'll clean that up on edit, we.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Can't clean up and then know what? This makes no sense? Oh?
Speaker 7 (37:03):
So good. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Is there something else going on of supreme importance that
they can't make the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I'm not entirely sure, but we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Dougzar to me.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
A big deal, little deal, no.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Deal, Alexei la stat.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
I don't cut it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I don't cret it.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Dan Hurley signing a new deal with yukon six years,
fifty million bucks, big deal, little deal, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, big deal. Among the highest payed coaches in college basketball.
He's went back to back national titles. Big deal.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Yeah, no shock to anybody, right, all right, big deal,
little deal, no deal. Brownie James missed the lakers second
Summer League game with swelling in his knee, and his
status for the next game is a question mark.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah he was. There's no nothing wrong with his knee.
That was that was decided as soon as the first
game was over, which means it was decided before the
first game was over. Uh, it's a big deal. Only
that don't tell me. You want to develop and he
needs to play, and then he has a chance to play,
and he plays one game and then you shut him
down for the second game. It's a big deal.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Facts, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
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Speaker 1 (38:15):
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the country. And uh, we have some sports to talk about,
believe or not. We've gone from talking about the WNBA
to NBA Summer League and the second round draft pick.
That's where we are right now. As we're waiting, waiting,
waiting for some we got some All Star Game discussions
to get to. We have more discussion on what Paul
George had to say in regards to kind of in
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his mind letting us in on their contract negotiations with
the Clippers. But let's start with Ronnie James playing his
first I guess professional game, right summer league game in
Sacramento for the LA Lakers Summer League team. And what
I find to be interesting is, you know, again, how
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we do what we do in the media, Like you've
clearly aligned with a side based upon many of the
much of the commentary, and as I've told you before,
in politics and in life, I operate on the same premise.
I am a radical centrist. Now what does that mean.
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That means I don't feel like I need to always
side with one side because that's what side I'm aligned with.
I do what I think, I think what I do,
and I try and do what I believe to be
the right thing on a daily basis, and I sometimes
I come up short. And when I took over this job,
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I love the idea of going to be in the
portal because the portal is all college basketball players and
evaluating college players versus college players and levels of college basketball.
Felt like I was pretty quipped for what I didn't
know if I was equipped for. Is the evaluation of
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watching a high school player and what he'll look like
in a year or two years or three years in college.
And that's something I think it's kind of an art,
but in terms of what a college player looks like
as opposed to other college players, and what a college
player looks like in his translation in his transition to
the pros, I feel like I got a pretty good
beat on it. So let me give you a radical
centrist perspective of Ronnie James first game. It's it's called
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j a g jag or a jag. Okay, a jag
is just a guy. That's what Bronnie James looked like.
I know, we could point to the stats and it's like, oh,
he was bad, he was not great, But it wasn't
because of the stats. It's because he's just kind of
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a guy. Now, Lebron has said, hey, I don't care
about the stats. It's about the development. So what are
you developing? What are you developing? What role will Bronnie
James have if he really really wants to make it
in the NBA. Here's Lebron doing a sit down with
the with the ESPN talking about Bronnie.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't know if people really understand Bronnie, he doesn't care.
I actually cared a little bit when I came out.
I wanted people to like like me, and some of
the things that people were saying about me kind of
bothered me early on in my career.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I let it get to me.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Ronnie doesn't. He doesn't get up, he doesn't, he does
not care about nobody's he doesn't even listen to that stuff.
He's like the complete opposite of his dad. His dad
will say something, Yeah, Bronnie does not care like me personally.
When I was coming up, I had no choice. I
literally had no choice. I had to make it out
like I had no choice. I had to make it
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out for me, my mom, my family. Ronnie has all
the choices in the world. So it's like a whole
other people don't understand how hard that is in the
commitment for him to be coming out of heart surgery
less than a year ago, for him to be able
to be in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
That's the kid is.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
He's special, but he doesn't care. He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It doesn't, it doesn't bother. I understand, completely understand, and
you have to have that sort of thick skin, and
I actually agree with that the premise of, hey, you
know it's it, give me hard to make it even
when you have all these things at your disposal, because
there's no reason for you to have to work. Just isn't.
(05:02):
If Ronnie never plays basketball again, he's fine financially fine,
not just working for his dad on his own. So
I actually do respect that. I think that's one that
people roll their eyes at, and I would say, yeah,
I get that a little harder than people think. You know,
you always compared to your debt. On the other hand,
on the other hand, if you look at it a
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different way, it's that you're right. He doesn't play like
he's trying to prove himself. He doesn't play with the hunger,
with the anger, with the competitiveness that translates that looks like, hey,
you want to tell me you're a point guard, how
about guarding the point guard? How about picking him up
ninety four feet? How about making life living hell on
that guy. It's what so many people don't understand about basketball.
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You can have a really high level high school defender
come into college and like, the kid doesn't know what
he's doing because it's a different level and a different sport.
Then you step up to the NBA, and it's even
harder when the roles change differently. If you're gonna be
six one and a half and you're gonna play in
the NBA and you're a backup guard off the bench,
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when that ball goes in the basket and you're on
offense and you switch the defense, you better be up
and guarding ninety four feet and pressuring and just being
a nuisance. Jose Alvarado is the perfect example of it.
You're always got head on the swivel and trying to
figure out where he is, what's he doing before you
go and do anything, because you think Jose Alvarado is
gonna take this basketball from me, and Broanni just doesn't
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have that. Some of that is can be tiresome in
terms of some of the hunger and need to get
after it. It can lead to thirsty plays if you will,
but some of it, in truth, is what you need
and he doesn't have. Look, all of that stuff Leabron
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can say is great. He is a great kid. I
don't care. I'm not evaluating based upon the type of
human being. He is the type of player he is,
and he wants very little to do with any sort
of the backup point guard duties, which include pushing the
ball in transition, getting your team into something gay, moving
the basketball, and guarding ninety four feet and really pressuring
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it being the nuisance. It's it, honestly is Bronnie has
been watching real NBA guys do it his whole life.
He has been going through the exact same process. But
he has not and he needs to play a ton
but he has not played enough. The knee issue, knee swelling,
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that's all just the team shutting him down for a day,
giving him ty to rest because they know Vegas is
going to be hard on him. But the actual analysis
from coach gottliebiz, I don't see any sort of desire
to be at either end of the floor. A point
guard or league guard just kind of wants to stand
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over in the corner of the ball is thrown up
to him, try and go get a bucket. It doesn't
mean that he won't be better in game two or whenever.
That Game two is just like Victor Webbin, No, I'm
a struggle in game one was finding game two. I
don't care. You're right, I'm with Lebron. I don't care
about the stats, but I watched the game, and there
was nothing dynamic about him defensively and offensively. You know,
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a couple of times he got straight line drives. Other
than that, he just wants It's like he gets the
ball with the idea of mind, how quickly can I shoot?
How quickly can I shoot? Yes, Sir Jason.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Tourrett, Can we go back to what Lebron said about
Browny doesn't care what you think and or doesn't give
an f what you think, Which is a side note,
by the way, Lebron taking what JJ Reddick said at
his press conference, he doesn't give an F. That should
be the Lakers model this season. We don't give an
F because they're probably gonna be like the ninth or
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tenth seed. Right Anyways, Bronni doesn't care what you think.
Isn't Lebron a little us led here? I don't think
the criticism, everything that's been written and said about Bronnie,
I don't think it has ever in an indictment on
the kid as a person or his effort or anything
like this. I always thought the criticism this whole time
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was about Lebron, about Rich Paul, and about this system
that kind of pushed this kid through who isn't really deserving.
But it's never really been criticism of Bronni himself. So
when he says he doesn't care like Lebron is deflecting
right because the criticism has been basically targeted towards Lebron
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this whole time.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Well, I think there's some of that. Yeah, there's a
lot of it that's targeted towards Lebron, and but there's
a lot of it in which here's my biggest issue
with his group is that reasonable analysis is called criticism. Okay,
I mean to me, it's you can analyze and critical,
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but not have criticism. There's no ability for anybody to
ever improve. And like this his whole thing with her,
he's got to develop. There's no chance you ever develop
if you tell everybody, hey, everything he did was great,
Like nobody develops that way ever. Ever, what Lebron is
guilty of is many people in our business are guilty
of that. Hey, I want feedback. Then you give somebody
(10:22):
negative feedback, You're like, WHOA, why are you so negative? Like, dude,
you want feedback? Right? Do you want a feedback? Either
you want to get better? You don't. Everyone says they
want to get better. Everyone says they want feedback, everyone
says they want to improve, But real improvement comes from
people who you trust, who you respect, who've been through it,
who said like, yeah, I don't like that, I like that,
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this is not good, this gotta be better. This is
pretty good leading into that. But that's not how Lebron operates.
He because he's been surrounded by sycophants for so much
of his life, he believes that everybody should treat Ronnie
even that way. And while he's right, it is yet
less the year removed from heart surgery. The fact is
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that no other player would have been drafted in the
first two rounds as a borderline prospect if they were
coming off of heart surgery, all of those things. If
you want to point to it to nepotism or you know,
just unbelievable athlete advantage, I just that's not criticism in
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the purest sense. That's reality. No one else would get
that opportunity other than Brownie, and he only got that
opportunity because of your last name and because you push
for it.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
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Speaker 1 (11:50):
So one of the great things about players having their
own podcasts is they can if they want, they can
share their perspective on their contract negotiations. George did just that.
We're here from Rick Buker upcoming. Bu could join us
in about four or five minutes, but before that, Paul
George has his own podcast. He said this about why
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things didn't work out with the Clippers.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
That's why I had to stop the negotiations during the
season because it was personal, Like that's how y'all view me,
you know what I mean, which is fine and all
of this. That's why it's no love lost, no heart feelings.
Like if that's how y'all view me, fine, that's cool.
Now I gotta go somewhere else. There's nothing wrong with that.
Then I hear whend of like you know what they're
gonna give Kawhi. So I'm like, just give me what
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Kawhi got, like y'all view us the same, like you know,
we came here together. I'll take what Kawhi got, like,
no problem. I was cool with that. Now we're going
to negotiations. Now they now they bring it to three
years one point fifty. All right, that's cool. It sucks
that it had to get to this point like that.
They couldn't we couldn't get this figured out a lot sooner.
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But now we at the end of the year, three years,
one fifty. So I'm like, all right, like now we're
in We're in the ballpark, you know what I mean.
Now we can have conversation here. I presented the three
one fifty no trade because in the meeting, they're like,
you know, we want you here long term, we want
to you know, when you're retired, we want you to
be a Clippers for a lifetime, like all of this stuff.
(13:15):
So I'm like, cool, give me the three years one
fifty no trade. Then like no trade clack. Then I
now like I'm taking less. At least I know I'm here,
like I'm committed to y'all. Like they didn't want to
hear the no trade.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
So then now I'm like, all right, well then it
only makes sense for me to do four years to twelve, right, like,
at least pay me my money. If y'all gonna trade me,
then y'all gonna trade me. But at least, like now
I'm not in a situation where I could have got
more had I just gone to free agency, then take
this deal and then y'all could just ship me wherever
I want. And then now I'm on this deal that
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I didn't want. So they didn't want to do that.
So now I was like, now like, now I'm open
to entertaining what's out there.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So what do they mean by all that? The first
thing that's interesting is they did get to one fifty,
you know they did. They got to one fifty. That's
fifty million dollars a year. And the reason they didn't
want to go to the fourth year was that would
put him over the second tach tax aprin so, and
they didn't view him at the same level as Kawhi Leonard,
and I think that's fair. The only reason you would
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judge him at the same level or above Kawhi letters
because Kawhi has perceptions and it's reality on many levels
of being heard a lot. But Kawhi has is far
more accomplished during his time in the playoffs than than
Paul George's. We'll find out what's behind that in a moment. First,
So let's let's get you to Moncey Bolognos and get
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you a quick update, Monci.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
You know, Doug, I did not like any of that
of what Paul George said about the contract with the Clippers.
As a Clippers fan, I just I don't believe you.
You literally got the three years, one hundred and fifty
and what you just said, we don't view you the
same as Kawhi. Whether you think that's fair or not,
but you haven't delivered during the playoffs when it mattered,
aside from maybe one postseason while you were with the Clippers,
(15:06):
and it's just so annoying to hear it.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's just look, I think I would I would classified
as unfair to say he hasn't delivered, only in that
you know, they just were never both healthy.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yes, yes, the planned, but.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
He is not a carry a team on his own
sort of guy.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
He has said that. He has said that, So it's like,
what do you mean you want the same as Kawhi?
Like I I. He's left a bad taste in my
mouth the last couple of weeks, which is annoying.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So let's welcome in. He's Rick Buker from Fox Sports
one Fox Sports dot Com as well. Uh, let's start
with with the brownie James he's played one game in
Summer League. They shut him down for game two. Uh,
what's your reaction to his first first games performance.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Reaction to first game performance is, I'm not shocked, not surprised.
I thought it was always it's going to be a
tough lift. It's difficult for me. I went to the
I went to Sunday's games. The level of play is
just horrific. I don't know, you know, talk to a
(16:14):
number of scouts. I don't know what you take out
of watching that level of play. It's fairly embarrassing. And
so in the context of the play being incredibly low
and then Brownie not looking very good, it's it's not
a first it's it's not a first and a good
(16:34):
first impression. All that said, you know, first time out,
the game is kind of floppy. It's it can be
difficult at times to look good in those circumstances. I
think the thing that troubles me the most is the
we've got a little bit of Nie sore ones after
twenty two minutes and he can't play at all the
(16:56):
next game. That's that's not typical for a second round pick.
And if there was any question that Bronnie is entreated
different than any other second round pick.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That that would.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Be, that would be what I would look at as
as added as added evidence. It's just it's it's not
it's a tilted playing field because no second round pick
just trying to make the team, just trying to even
make the G League team is going to miss a
second a second game because of because of me, sotness
(17:35):
and the other I'll tell you the other thing that
that disturbed me is the fact that JJ Redick was
not in the building. I saw Kurt Rambis, and for
a guy who's never coached before, I don't need him
necessarily on the bench, although Charles Lee was on the
bench for Charlotte, but at the very least, I'd like
to see him in the building, maybe behind the bench
(17:59):
somehow involved, because I just don't get the sense that
people understand what a massive lift that is going to
be in the small term, in the you know, in
the small picture, for Bronnie James to actually get on
an NBA court and for JJ Reddick to actually coach
an NBA team.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, the whole thing. When I was told he was
being shut down right after the first game, that he
wasn't going to play in the second that was.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Pre planned, and I had a scout tell me that
I'm persing he did. He texted me and said, you know,
they're trying to cover for the fact that Bronnie didn't play,
didn't play well in the first game. And and my
thinking is, Look, the kid didn't play a whole lot
in college. He only played one year, he started late
(18:43):
because of the heart surgery. He didn't start, He didn't
play like a ton of minutes, like he needs every
minute on the floor that he possibly can. And you
live with whatever it looks like, particularly, I mean particularly
as I said, in these games. Look, it's not going
to be any better in Las Vegas. It's gonna be
it's good. There's gonna be more eyeball and and the
(19:07):
level of competition is only going to go up. So
I don't see how you find a path to making
Bronnie into whatever he's going to be without him actually
being on the floor and playing. It's not going to
happen in practice with the Lakers. I can assure you.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That, Yeah, Doug ot Lap Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
I'll give you something to watch next time you watch
him play. Watch how few at times he actually wants
the ball in uh you know when when the ball
goes to the hoop, you know he's not calling for
the ball. He he goes he runs to the corner
(19:47):
and which again, like they don't get me wrong, that's
what you teach guys that are three in d guys
do is to go and run to the corner in space,
and then you let let the guys that can really
play off off pick and roll, you let them play.
He will occasionally get an attack in transition, but he
does not play and up defensively. You didn't guard to
point guard, right, So you know, look, I think I've
(20:12):
always believed that the fact that he doesn't need the ball,
he's not an over dribbler, he's not necessarily an alpha.
I actually think that bodes well for him because you
don't have to have crazy talent to make it. I
don't think he has the size to do so whatever.
But the fact is that if they want him to develop,
that's how you develop. You don't develop by one and
standing over the corner and ducking guarding the guy playing
(20:33):
the ball screen. So I just I'm with you on
a multiple fronts. We should also balance it with a
last year, Wemby looked weak and didn't look like he
belonged in name one. I would agree with you though,
that this is we have We don't We had a
track record with Wemby to say he could play. We
don't have that one right now with with Bronnie. What
(20:55):
about Lebron's comments in regards.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
To Bronnie, Look, it's a it's a father talking about
a son, and and I don't know that any of
us are objective about you know fully fully objective about
our offspring and what and what they're capable of. But
(21:20):
I don't know. It just I don't want to be harsh,
but it just it all feels like propaganda. It's all propaganda,
whether it's propaganda about you know, the off season moves
and I'm just going to show up and I'm going
to be ready and then you know the whole I'm
going to put my jersey on and all of that.
I just I can't. I will say this. I don't
(21:42):
know how people who cover Lebron do it, because I
I could not take what he says and report it
at face value. The number of eye rolls or inadvertent
laughs that I would have when he says stuff. It
just it wouldn't it would in the last law. And
so whether it's talking about BRONI or it's talking about
(22:04):
the Lakers or any of it, I just it just
none of it feels authentic or since it's it's it's
the picture that Lebron wants to paint, and there's a
healthy enough media that will paint it however he wants it,
and and on we go. I I just can't. I
(22:28):
just can't do it anymore, especially at this point. You know,
it's it's we're still playing this. You know, if they
just put the right pieces around him, he could win
another ring. It's I did this chart the other day,
like they got ninety two ninety three million dollars wrapped
up in Lebron in ad And this past season was
the first time that the two of them both played
(22:50):
seventy games. Prior to that, it's been fifties and sixties.
And if you look at the other top duos around
just the Western Conference there for the most part, outside
of Booker and KD and Phoenix, they all make less
and they're all duos that you would take over this duo.
(23:11):
So this idea that it's not the core that it's
just they don't have the surrounding pieces to be a
championship contender. Is just not looking at the reality of
the situation and that so it's it's really and I
don't want like I don't want to. I don't want
to disparage what Lebron is because I don't I'm not
(23:34):
measuring him now. I'm not measuring who he is or
who he's been based on what I'm seeing now. But
I'm also not going to pretend like Lebron is the
same guy that he was four or five years ago,
when when he was arguably the best player in the league.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Okay, let me ask you this, what do you make
of Paul George's comments about how the Clippers low.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Baldinha smacks a lot of what I heard with Klay
Thompson ego getting the way of what is ultimately ideal
for a player and letting the negotiations and and what
somebody offers you. It's negotiations, and it's negotiations in a
(24:19):
situation where the Clippers are dealing with a new reality
that Barbara can't just pay any price, that there are
restrictions that come with reaching that second Apron and and so,
and I heard you know, essentially it's the same with
Klay Thompson, Like you know, they made an offer to
(24:41):
me that was that was insulting. Okay, I don't care
about the first offer, what was the last offer? What
was the best offer? Don't let your feelings get in
the way of making the best decision for you. And
I'm just I you know, I hope things go well
for for George and Philadelphia. I hope they go well
(25:02):
for Clay in uh In in Dallas. But in both cases,
I feel like the players in question were already in
a better situation than they put themselves in. I don't
buy that than Paul George at this point, whether it's
his legacy or whether it's his opportunity to go further
(25:26):
than he's gone in his career, that that is going
to be served by being in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Rick Buker, Fox Sports One and Fox Sports dot Com,
you're the best buick. Thanks so much joining us. You
got it does So there's a lot there to unpack
with what Buker had to say, But I look, I
realized over the weekend lebron took what it mounts to
a two million dollars haircut? Right, I was willing to
take less? Well, yeah, he kept him out of the
(25:53):
second apron, But fine, that's not really taking much, you know.
And this is one of those things where, for Paul George,
everyone says they want to win, everyone says all those
right things. Very few people are willing to do those things.
You know, are you want to take a pay cut? Sure?
Are you going to take a ten million dollar paycut?
Speaker 5 (26:12):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, well then you don't really want to add somebody
and take less. Do you want to stay in LA? Yes?
Will you stay in LA for you know, without a
no trade clause?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Then you really don't want to, really don't want to.
I don't understand the Paul George, Hey, I want a
no trade clause and then you end up signing with
a different team Like that feels like something that was
incredibly negotiable, incredibly negotiable. There's a lot of steps being
(26:43):
missed there. But everyone says they want feedback. Everyone says
they're willing to do what it takes to win to win,
and very few people are. That's kind of my read
on it. You know, they all want to win, but
they want to do it their way, and I can understand,
like if you've already won your Lebron James and you're like, yeah, maybe,
(27:08):
but I just what happens is I understand. Let's just
start with Lebron and Bronnie. I understand what Lebron's saying.
It's like, look, you have to be impervious to any
of that outside noise. You have to not let it
bother you. The reality is all of it creates a
perception if Bronny can't play at this level yet, and
(27:29):
he cannot, and you clearly forced it to happen, regardless
of whether or not JJ Reddick is great or is
not great, knows who he's doing is not, it just
creates a perception of like, yeah, whatever they missed in
the two million dollars shortfall they made up by giving
to Bronny, they're doing anything Lebron wants. And people just
(27:51):
don't want to play on that sort of deal, Like
they just don't do it. I don't. Nobody wants to
play daddy ball, play for guys who do sons there
playing college or pro, and they don't want to do
it where the best player's son is on the team
and he's buddies with the head coach. That just doesn't
feel like a culture that has its eyes focused on winning.
(28:12):
I don't think Brownie plays much except for, you know,
a game or two in the NBA. I don't see
any reason that JJ Reddick can't be a really, really
good coach. But the problem isn't the reality of it.
The problem is the perception of it. And as for
Paul George, I think you end up at a great
landing spot. I think they overpaid him, but I think
he gets to be a two A or two B
(28:34):
sort of player with Tyrese Maxi and they got a chance.
The problem becomes that they're still dependent upon Joel Embiid
to be healthy and that's been a hit or miss prospect.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
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Speaker 1 (28:56):
Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from
the tyree dot Com studio. Less, Let's get to a game.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
This is game Time gold Tag on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
What do you got there, Monty Belognos.
Speaker 7 (29:20):
Well, Doug, it is the start of the week. So
that's my favorite game.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Big deal, Little Deal, No Deal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
It is my favorite game out of all the ones
that you have. I don't know why I get into it.
So let's start all right, Doug, big Deal, Little Deal
or no deal? That there are thirty two first time
MLB All Star players, including Paul Skin's Elie Dela Cruz.
Big Deal, Little Deal or no Deal.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, I think it's a big deal. I think it's
inflated by the fact that they added what was it,
six more All Stars? Some two? What are we doing?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I know part of me wants to like that, you know,
like I like that there's more players, but all this
is telling me just because I think it's more exciting.
I went to the All Star game here in LA
and it is really fun to see all of the
players in one spot together. But this also means that
they're going to play less, or some players are going
to play less. So it's like I'm in between on this.
But it is really cool to kind of see all
(30:21):
of those players in one spot at the same time.
You know, no, no, you don't, well, well, I like it, don't.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
There's supposed to be some sort of exclusivity to it,
and we just make it worse and worse.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
But the exclusivity is still there. I hear what you're saying. Yes,
it is become. How many players are in baseball coming
in and out of major league rosters, it's still there.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, why does every team have to have an All Star?
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Well, I also am in favor of that just for
the fans of the team.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
White Sox fans don't want to see any White Sox.
The A's don't have any fans, So why do we care.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
To incorporate I know, I know, I know I'm alone.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Now an All Star or you're not an All Star.
It doesn't depend. Doesn't You don't have to have one
guy like you just don't.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
I know, I'm alone. I mean, I know I'm alone
on that alone.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
There's a lot of people are traditionally it's like, hey,
that's you know. I just I don't like the answer. Well,
that's how it's always been done, So I don't think that.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
I just like the incorporation of just for everybody. But
you do make a point that there are some teams
that maybe don't want to see their own players on it.
That's a good just that like.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Nobody can like that's not what an All Star is.
And All Star is the best players.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Yeah, we just we are getting further away from that. Okay, okay,
before I.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Get before before that. So I just weren't they expanded
the rosters? Yeah they did. Yeah, yeah, what's up with that?
Because you know that there's gonna.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Deal with them expanding the rosters.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
You know there's gonna be injury replacements, so it's gonna
be watered down even more because of Mookie Bets and
all these people that can't play.
Speaker 7 (31:52):
It's like, well, maybe it interesting if they don't do that,
then yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I don't know. I'm with Doug on this one.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, fine, I'll be all alone. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh, I feel like it's a Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, a
star outside.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Gavin Stone's not an All Star and I think he
should have been for the Dodgers. But I digress. Okay,
big deal, little deal, no deal that the Yankees have
won just four out of their last seventeen games. They
have one of the worst records since June thirteenth. If
you're not like Aaron Judge or Juan Soto, you're not delivering.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They're not playing like a bunch of savages. Obviously, the
issue there not a bunch of Savages. Not great, No, no, one,
big deal, big deal. You know a team that that
was humming along and now all of a sudden you
get to midway point and you're limping into the into
the break. Yeah, that's not a good deal. That's a big,
big deal.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
My boyfriend is a Yankees fan, and he thought they
came out too too hot of a start. He's like,
this is not that. This team should not be that good.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Something to that. Yeah, it was kind of fool's goal.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Yeah, he was like, this is not this is we
should not be winning like this. He's like, I don't
like it. It's it's gonna crash and burn before we
know it. So we'll see. We're getting halfway, you know,
to the season, so we'll see. Okay, let's move on.
A little soccer for you, Doug. Big deal, little deal,
no deal that the US men's soccer team has not
fired their head coach, Greg Burlder.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Are they in the Olympics?
Speaker 7 (33:28):
I don't do we know.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Let's see. I mean, I literally have no idea and
I'm not afraid to have a minute. Is the US
men's national team in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
The US did not qualify for the Olympic team.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
No, so we're not in the Olympics. No, and we
host the World Cup win in two years?
Speaker 7 (33:50):
Wait there there, Yeah, we are going to the Summer
Olympics in Paris. Jason.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Yeah, the first time they're there. That's what I meant.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
They are there first time since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Yeah, So, I mean, you're not gonna fire It's no
big no deal, no big deal. They're not not going
to fire him with like a month before, a couple
of weeks before the Olympics start, are they.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
I just feel like the consensus around has been that's
what happened.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
List you are half my age. Okay, So I'm just
gonna tell you, for my entire life, soccer has been
the sport of the future, and for entire my entire
broadcast in life, every time the US men's national team
under chiefs, they want to fire the.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Coach half your age.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Huh, I'll take it. I just feel like the consensus
around has been that there's no culture.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
They're like, the first number is the first number of
two or three in what never mind an age?
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Oh my age? Oh it's a three, it's a three.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I was like, what douggies are there, Doug is near
retirement age.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now, no, I'm not. I'm not that old, but I mean, yeah,
she's Monthsy's much younger. Okay, maybe half my age is
a little bit of exaggeration.
Speaker 7 (35:10):
No, well we'll just say that though much younger.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
And so I'm just telling you, like this goes back
to any time I remember watching soccer. Literally, every time
they lose, they go back they're like fire the coach.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
Yes, Yet nobody ever goes.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Like, hey, these guys they kind of stick. They'll all
say like they don't have great energy and they don't
play with me. Soccer is analyzed so differently than than
sticking ball sports in the States.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
It's a no big deal to me. I don't know,
why would you fire a guy a couple weeks for
the for the Olympics. After the Olympics, if you want
to make a change with less than two years left
before they get to the to the World Cup. By
all means, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
All right, second, I just feel like we need to
start over. Let's start. Let's start the segment over all. Right,
So here, here's the deal. Will Burholtzer coach Olympic team?
The answer is no, According to this MBS article, who
will coach the Olympic team? Serbian American Marco Mitrovich will
be the coach. I guess the Olympic team is a
completely different team than the collection of pros that we
(36:11):
play international ball. Yeah, different coach.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Did anybody like I want everybody to be honest here,
Did anybody know this before we did this?
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Of course not. I didn't even think we had a
team in the Olympics. So that's how we got to
start all over.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Did you know? No, I'm not afraid to admit it,
like this stuff needs to be broadcast. Yeah, so who's
playing in the is it? Are the college kids playing
the Olympics?
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Uh, it's no. I don't think there is a nineteen
year old. He's the youngest player on the on the.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Roster, we have no idea.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Yeah, but no, there's thirty one, twenty five. I'm looking
at the ages.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, big mic, Just so, there's an age restriction on
the Olympic roster.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
So wait, so why don't we have the national team
playing the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I don't know. We'll clean that up on edit, we.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Can't clean up and then know what? This makes no sense? Oh?
Speaker 7 (37:03):
So good. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Is there something else going on of supreme importance that
they can't make the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I'm not entirely sure, but we're gonna find out.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Dougzar to me.
Speaker 7 (37:14):
A big deal, little deal, no.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Deal, Alexei la stat.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
I don't cut it.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I don't cret it.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
Dan Hurley signing a new deal with yukon six years,
fifty million bucks, big deal, little deal, no deal, big deal.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, big deal. Among the highest payed coaches in college basketball.
He's went back to back national titles. Big deal.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
Yeah, no shock to anybody, right, all right, big deal,
little deal, no deal. Brownie James missed the lakers second
Summer League game with swelling in his knee, and his
status for the next game is a question mark.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah he was. There's no nothing wrong with his knee.
That was that was decided as soon as the first
game was over, which means it was decided before the
first game was over. Uh, it's a big deal. Only
that don't tell me. You want to develop and he
needs to play, and then he has a chance to play,
and he plays one game and then you shut him
down for the second game. It's a big deal.
Speaker 7 (38:06):
Facts, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
It is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Happy Monday to you. We got that great laugh of
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on this for a second. It was a long, long weekend.
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