July 10, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug takes Mike Gundy to task for his comments related to his best player getting a DUI recently and receiving relatively lite punishment by Gundy. Doug welcomes former NBA player Olden Polynice onto the show to talk about Chris Paul, Bronny and all of the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "For Better or Worse?".
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out and podcast. This one's going to be an interesting
one because I feel like there's a real conversation to
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be had. There's a lot. There's a lot to it,
and I kind of think I'm the perfect guy to
have this conversation. But there's also the realization that this
will likely get misconstrued and a lot of people are
gonna get mad because I'm telling the God's honest truth.
My gun he's the head coach. Mile Mountern Oaklham States
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football coach is winning his football coach in the history
of the program. He's done an amazing job. I consider
him a friend, a mentor, someone who I text with
occasionally gives me a ton of personal and professional advice.
I like him a lot, and I do understand on
some level the realness that he wanted to share with
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the world and relate it to how he's treating the
Doak Walker Award winner Ollie Gordon after's DUI arrest last week.
On the other hand, what what so here's my gunny
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Oli Gordon, who didn't really this is what's crazy about it.
The first three games last year, he split time. They
had three running backs and three quarterbacks. By the time
he became the go to running back, then he became
the best running back in college football. He had an
amazing year. Oli Gordon is a beloved figure. I believe
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he's making somewhere close to seven figures to play football
at my alma mater. He's done anything and everything in
the name of the university, gone to events, chook hands,
kiss babies like in terms of trying to earn it
for appearances, He's done it. But then he gets to
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dui arrest last week. And this was my gun to
yet big twelve media day yesterday, So I looked it
up on my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What would be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point
eight and Ollie was point one. So I looked it
up and it was based on body weight. Not to
get into the legal side of it, but I thought,
really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying
what all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
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my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine. So
I got lucky. People get lucky. All he made a
decision that he wished he could have done better. But
when I talked to Olli, I told him, I said,
you're lucky you got out, like because you make a
lot of money to play football. So back in the day,
being able to cover the cost of what he's going
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to go through would be difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
For a college player. It's not for him.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now, I'm not speaking for him, but I'm just saying
that's not an issue for him.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So nobody got hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I said, we see people doing this and people
losing their life across the country, not just football players
but everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So you got out lucky.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah. So there's a bunch of contradictions within it, right,
because he's right, OLLI was very lucky. He's right, people
have done this. Now. One of the miscalculations is the
three or four beers. That's three or four beers in
an hour. Right, you have three or four beers, You're
not going to over four or five hours. You're not
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going to go over the legal limit. You have three
or four beers within the hour, you will. I am
not some prude. I am not some unrealistic human being. I'm,
by the way, having somebody who's committed a criminal offense,
which is very different. But I'm not going to sit
here and deny that I haven't always made deny that
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I've made the wrong decision more than ten times in
my life. But not only am I not going to
say it, I know it's not true. It hasn't been
over a thousand times, not even ten times in which
I've had a couple of beers and got behind the
wheel of a car. And I just I think everything
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about it was off. Everything about it was off. Like
your best player, your highest paid player, gets a DUI,
and your response to his punishment isn't We're going to
run him till his ankle smoke. And look, I get it,
the the off season suspension is stupid, right, But the
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hey I might hand him his punishment is I'm going
to hand him the ball fifty times. Excuse me? How
could we possibly have gotten to this point where Mike
Gundy says a couple of the right things. Hey, he's
very lucky that no one was killed, very very lucky
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that no one was killed, and he needs to face
the music. But what music answering a couple of hard questions.
That's it. That's the music paying your own legal fees,
That's that's the music. I just I can't even begin
to comprehend the conversation that Mike Gundy had to have
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today with Chad Weiberg's athletic director where doctor shrum his
president over what he said. I'm just that one blows
my mind that his punishment is going to be facing
the music, but not extra conditioning or running in the
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Oklahoma heat and not and not you know, going into
a community service with mothers against drunk driving, or not
taking away the keys to his car. He may the
decision that he probably shouldn't have made. No, he made
a decision that could have taken his in other people's
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lives and taken the power of somebody his powerful decision
can cost. Did anyone see the car accident? What was
the Minnesota Vikings football player that was killed with two
other football players over the way again, Tyree Jackson, Kyrie Jackson?
Have you seen his car? His car was completely and
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totally annihilated. No one survives it, and reportedly alcohol played
a factor. I just look, I've been hit by a
drunk driver before. Guy blew a point two four and
nearly ended me on the West Side Highway in New York.
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But I'm not too close to this one. I do understand.
I've had a couple of years and got behind the
wheel of a car and not felt good about it.
I would never say I've done it a thousand times,
and I haven't done it as an adult because I've
grown up and I'm matured, and I understand that. While
that doesn't mean it should be a death sentence to
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Ali Gordon's career. The idea that the highest paid member
of a state institution, the winning his football coach of
all time, says that he's done it a thousand times
and the punishment should be handing him the ball fifty
times in the opening game is so remarkably obtuse to
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how it comes across. It is mind blowing. And I'm look,
I'm sure Michael hear this, and maybe he'll be upset
with it. Maybe he won't. I know they've released a
statement which is on social media about what I meant
to say. It doesn't matter. Nobody goes back to the
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what you meant to say us and even in what
he meant to say, what he's doing is all that matters,
which is nothing. What are we doing? Yes, he makes
a lot of money to play football, and so the
two things that should happen when you have a dui
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is one you get some of the money back, and too,
you don't get to play football. As much. Well, you know,
if I spend one game it doesn't do anything. I
suspend him six games maybe, But then that's unfair to
the rest of the team, is it, Yeah, I know
it is. I know it's unfair to the rest of
the team. But that's what Ali Gordon did. He did
something incredibly selfish and there needs to be a punishment
for it. Otherwise why not do it again? Well, next time,
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we're gonna be really serious about it, like really, And
I understand there's an embarrassment to it. There's the legal fees.
Nobody's technically harmed. But to who much is given, more
is expected and and this is not raised. This is
this is not what anybody would expect a response to
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be from a decorated, crazy, successful Division one men's head
football coach. And I do believe that Mike is about
the right things. I love the honesty with which he
shares things. But this is if that's honesty, then dude, honestly,
over a thousand times, and I don't think he read
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the chart correctly, but regards which over a thousand times,
And I think that's an embellishment. You've gotten behind the
wheel of a car having drank potentially too much like
I don't. I don't even know how to like how
you would handle that, I don't? Does it hit you differently?
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Jason Stewart? Am I my missing something? Am I am
I being to buy the book that I'm my missing?
How does it land on you?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
That's my question to answer your first question. You're not
missing anything. I think everything that you just said is
absolutely true, and you're speaking from a point where you
could relate most of anyone in this room. You're in
a different position now, you represent your university and you're
a leader of young men. Public comments should be much
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more filtered. I guess you could appreciate the honesty, But
this is like if I sat down with Mike Gundhy
at a bar after a couple of Budweisers, that's probably
what he would tell me. But that's not a great
barometer for how you should answer questions at media days
when your conference is being in the spotlight for a day.
So I thought it was pretty damn stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I just that one holy cow, And just so people
are aware, I do not have rules, like written down
rules with with with my team. The rules that we
do have is if you've had too much to drink. Okay,
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you are to call me, text me. There's a group
chat with any other player. We have the managers as well,
and if it gets to me, gets to me, I
will come pick you up wherever you are and drop
you off where you need to go, no questions asked.
But if you get behind the wheel that car, okay,
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I lose all sorts of power because I can't change
what the police will do. I can't get involved in
a police thing. And I have no time for people
who committed to you why And I say the same
thing about if you smoke. It's illegal in the state
of Wisconsin. If you get behind the wheel of a
car and you're smoking, you get behind the wheel of
a car or And I've also said if there's if
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there's any sort of beef between you and a woman,
you are to get a way and if you need
me to pick you up, I will pick you up,
no questions asked, no judgment. But you are not to
get behind a wheel of a car if you've been
drinking or smoking. So I just that's one where I
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know there's going to be a percentage of people who
are like finally, a coach who's honest, But like your
if that's your reality, that thousands a thousand times you've
gotten behind the wheel of a car having four or
five beers in an hour, three to four beers in
an hour, that's a really scary thought. Even if it
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is true, it's not to be said, and it shouldn't
be true because that's a lot of times. That's a
lot of times you've made a bad decision.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yes, Chris Prophett, I think that that point you just
made there is the most salient. I was talking with
a friend about this lately. And for those and you
don't know this, Doug, but there is a back at
the middle school I went to. There is a bench
there with my ants, with my form with my past
ant's name on it, who died in high school because
of a car accident. That we just I think sometimes,
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especially thinking about you know, you see someone cutting you
off or weaving through doing ninety or in DUI, like,
we don't have respect for the power at our hands
that an add a automotive vehicle gives you. You are
piloting tons of metal flying at inhuman speeds, speeds that
are not natural in the world out there, And I
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think in our country we just have no respect for
the power that's in our hands, or that we don't
think of anyone but ourselves on that road which we
share out there at the end of the day. And
I think when you start talking about DUI, that is
the ultimate sign of disrespect for that power at your hands.
It's just it's really sad to hear these comments. It
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just does not seem to again reckon with the fact
that you have the power to just kill multiple people
with this vehicle. Even Stone sober.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Right, But I mean again, the bigger point is you're
not just making a bad decision for yourself. You're making
a bad decision for people you don't know, you haven't
come out in contact with. And you know what I mean, Like,
I just I cannot fathom the response is one hundred
and eighty degrees in the wrong direction of anyone who
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has any sort of pulse of what the response should be.
And I can and like, look, here's how friendship works
with me, is I can't be friends with you if
I can't share that that response is way off. And
again doesn't mean that Mike, I wouldn't consider my gun
to your friend, and I wouldn't stand up for him
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and say he's done, you know, a thousand amazing things
since he's been the head coach at Oklahoma State, including
turnaround the team last year to do it his way,
and he's about the right things. But this is wrong.
I mean a day in which Brett yor Mark had
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some awesome comments and really amazing what the Big twelve
has done off of Death's door, and the only thing
anybody's talking about really is Mike Gundy saying, ah, yeah,
I've basically I've got behind the wheel with too much
to drink a thousand times. And yeah, my punishment for
Ali Gordon at getting a dui the best running back
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in the country is I'm going to hand the ball
fifty times maybe in the opening game. Yikes, what year
is this? What country are we in? These are not
things to be celebrated.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
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Speaker 1 (17:03):
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play fifteen years in the NBA, O B, thanks so
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(17:24):
I want to get to with you. I want to
play for you.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
Though.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is Chris Paul, and this is why he said
he chose to join the Spurs this offseason.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
There's probably no player in the league that everybody in
the league talks about after the game like him, because
everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on our.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Flight yesterday just.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Talking about how cool it's going to be at this
point in our career is to get a chance to
appreciate him day.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
In and day out.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
My family is everything.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
My wife is here, my kids are back in LA
and that's where they will be during the season. And
I love basketball so much that I could be close
to home. But if I'm not playing, I'm not happy.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Opie. What do you think of Chris Paul saying, Hey, one,
I just I want to appreciate wembya up close, but two,
I'm really playing because I'm not happy when I'm not playing.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
I mean, it's different, you know, it's different than the
normal you know, take that athletes have. You know, I'm
trying to get the championship, which is an ultimate goal
and so obvious. Of course you want to win championship,
but I kind of like it because it is refreshing.
He's being honest. Hey, I want to play, and so
I mean, but you've been playing for almost what seventeen
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eighteen years now? So I got much more playing do
you want? I would think that at this point in
your career, like to go out winning a championship would
be paramount, But apparently it's not for him. So whatever
happened with the Warriors. But again, it's not so much
teams and everything else. It's Chris Paul and his body.
You know, that's been the problem. It's like you could
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set your watch to when Chris Paul is going to
get hurt doing the season, no question.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Uh. And you know the problem is he can't start
on a championship team, right, So he's just not good
enough at this point his crew to start a championship.
Or maybe he thinks that Wemby's ability to defend the
rim can help him with that. I'm not sure. Let's
let's go through a bunch of things. Well, what's your
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reaction to Clay Thompson shutting the Lakers and signing with
the Mavericks.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I like it. I like her for the Mavericks. I
like her for Clay. You know, he made have I
watched his press conference. He made a very interesting commet yesterday.
You know, I saw how they got along and while
he was watching the Mavericks play, and that spoke volumes
to me. I think something definitely happened. You know, we're
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all going to say stuff for the media and everything else,
say all the right things, but I do believe, you know,
times when you're speaking, some shoots will come out. And
I think there was a point in time during last season,
maybe the last couple of seasons, where things changed dramatically
and he saw the writing on the wall and he
made a decision. He made a business decision, And I
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don't think he wanted to go with the Lakers, because
it's a no win situation for somebody like a Klay Thompson.
If they win, it's because of Lebron. If they lose,
it's because somebody else, And I don't think he wanted
to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
What's your thoughts on how the Lakers fandled the whole
Bronny thing.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Oh man, that's a great question, and I know that's
been you know, one of the subjects of the summer.
I personally think, okay, the best way to pus it.
Lebron is very powerful, he used his power. Rich Paul
is very powerful, he uses his power. I get all that,
but I think they've set a precedent and it's not
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good for the game because we don't get four year
contracts and guaranteed deals for a second round picks, especially
at number sixty five. That just doesn't happen. So now
you've change the game again. It is what it is.
You know, if you have that kind of juice and
you want to use it, more power to you. But
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his teammate, Boogie ellis deserved to be drafted before him,
and nothing against the young man. I think he's going
to be a fine player one day, but it's not today.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean, do you think that causes players to
not want to play with Lebron?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Of course it does, and that's what's been happening. You
we saw again with Clay Clay that would have been
a perparticulary. That's the team you grew up liking and
you have a chance to go there. But he saw
again what the Lakers need more than anything else. It's
outside shooting consistently, and that's something that Clay has built
a legacy on. And to me, he saw it for
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what it was. He saw every other thing about it,
and it's a It was a bad move, you know, technically,
but again I understand how it happened, but it was
from a basketball so that was just pure basketball. It
was whack.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Uh yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't say I disagree
with you. Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio
Olden Paul and is our guess. He's our Fox Sports
Radio NBA insider. Okay, Paul George leaves the Clippers first,
the Clippers started low, ended up at three, from one
to fifty. Paul George leaves and goes to the Sixers.
What are your thoughts on first the Clippers and how
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they handle things well?
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And Paul Jones made the comment, you know, he felt disrespected.
But again I'll say this, Doug, I wish I could
be disrespected with some of these copsact offers. These guys
are being feeling disrespected about so, but again, the Clippers
in the grand scheme of things, because you gave James
Harden a better deal than Paul George. And so I
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get all of that, and what you were offering. The
man's asking one extra year, you know, if you really
respect and give it to him. But again, I know
the new NBA and the new collective bargaining with the
first apron and the second apron. I get all that.
But if you really wanted that man, you know you
would have found a way to do it. And so
to me, him going to Philadelphia is a great move
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for him because they need somebody like Paul George. Now, again,
if they're gonna play most of the season, you hope.
But if he stays healthy and with other additions, man, Philadelphia,
to me, I don't care about Boston winning the championship.
Philadelphia is going to be the team to be.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Philadelphia is a going to be. What about Boston? Jason
Tatum said, Hey, they've ended all debates, have they? Like,
have we answered all the questions about Tatum?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Hey, man, Jason say, I'm a great young player, But
there was no debate. There's still no debate. I mean,
that's like when one championship doesn't mean anything. You know,
you shop one puzzle, but there's multiple puzzles. They're still
going to be debate, you know, about your game or
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anything else. So it's his way of trying to say,
you know what I've done with you guys have criticized
me about I wasn't able to win the championship. Okay, fine,
but there's other things involved. I mean, where do you
want your legacy to be? So again, these guys, a
lot of these guys are just really you know, they're
very weak. You know, the mindset is like they affected
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by every comment, every critique, you know, and they got
to respond and answer. It's like, dude, play basketball, play
your game. You guys want to enjoy it, but don't
worry about criticism.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Old Baldy's joining us here at Doug Gottlieb Show Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, so we talked Celtics, We've talked sixers,
We've talked a little Mavericks. What do the Nuggets do right?
The nugget sauce Bruce Brown last year, this year, Contavious Calwell, Pope,
the bench has not been the same and now a
sudden the starting lineupso can be same. You're the Nuggets.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
What do they look like, Well, they're looking like what
they did before they won the championship. I mean now
and after a while, team starts figuring things out. And
I'm not saying you can stop Nikolo jokich O Jamal Murray,
but they were things that happened like that Minnesota series
told us a lot energy is gonna beat Minnesota hardwark,
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I mean, will beat Denver. And that's what Minnesota had.
They had an influx of hard work and determination and
they were just like coming at you full steam ahead,
a young supersaw and Anthony Edwards, you know, his confidence
level was so high, and I don't think Denver really
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recovered from the first couple of punches early on. And
so to me, it's just a situation where no matter
what Denver that does now, teams will be able to
figure it out, like let's stop Jamal Murray, let's stop
Jokis and everybody else we don't care about because Michael Porter,
you don't know which one. And granted he's had a
lot of stuff to deal with off the court, no
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fault of his own, but he's dealt with a ton
of stuff and he didn't show up for the playoffs.
I mean there's a couple of games. If he just
knocks down one or two shots, Denver wins. And so
to me, those are the issues for the Denver Nuggets
getting consistent play. Aaron Gordon plays one great game, one
four pointer, and so it's one of those things. You know,
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those are the issues for the Nuggets, and so they're
gonna have to resolve those situations.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Olden, you're the best man. I love the honesty with
your commentary and the thought you put into it. Love
having you on. Thanks so much for me our guests.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's our guy op On Polonies, longtime NBA vet giving
us his thoughts. He's our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Here's Moncey Bolanos for a quick cupdate. MANSI, Hi, Doug,
how are you hello? I'm well.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
I have a question for you, so if you can
help me out, if you have maybe a secret uh
plan for me to move forward because I am having
plantar fasci itis like I've never had it before. And
since you play your coach, do you have a secret
weapon to fix my foot.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Plant fasciais yes, I've heard the only way to fix
that one. There's like two ways. One a ton of
rest or to have a complete tear of it, and
then you have then you have to have it repaired. No,
then it's better. This hur's a really painful one. Is
there a deal where you maybe somebody else who's had
this can text us or put it on ig deal?
(27:47):
You take like a water bottle and you like rub
your foot and roll your foot in a water bottle
and strengthens it. I don't know a water bottle, Jason
water bottle.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, the water bottle with the ice, I guess would
that kind of helps with the swollen.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't feel like it's swollen.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
So what happened is I went to the doctor and
he said, what would really help is that you lose
thirty pounds perfect, And I did that, but I don't
think that's your issue.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Thirty pounds.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Bathing with epsom salt.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Salt worksome salt hold on salt work.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They're fantastic. Yes, Is it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Actually work or is it like a Is it like
a mental thing?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It is absolutely.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I I use not not plant or fasciattis, but for
something else, I use like a combination of epsom salts
and witch hazel and it's I feel completely different after
getting out of the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Have you guys, this is a complete side note. Have
you ever tried like a weed bath bomb, like a
THHC infused salts? I have not, would it's amazing.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Interesting, Okay, see the good Thanks guys, going to try
both of these.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
No, I've not gotten behind the wheel of a car,
nor have I done it a thousand times, and I've
only done in states in which it's legal and there's
no ingesting of it at all. Right, No, this sounds great.
Simply in the salts and then like your your muscles
like relax.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Oh okay, okay, thank you, Seanya. I was asking the
right people.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I don't know if I told you. I didn't tell
you anything about about planner fasciatus. I told you to
rub your foot around.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I know I'm gonna do all this water bottle.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
I wanted something different because I have a spiky ball
and it hasn't helped.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So I just wanted to see.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
If there was something out there that wasn't like the
normal you know, use a ball, use a golf ball.
That's what I was trying to But I got good
ideas so thank you, fellas.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
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Speaker 1 (29:47):
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get the months and bologno some play game.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Either months. What's the game?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh well, this is how I keep track of my week.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So what are we playing? Chris?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
For Better or Worse?
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Meaning it's Wednesday, all right, Doug. So you're gonna tell
me what you think is better or worse when I
give you two different options. So we're gonna start with
this one for better or worse? Synchronized synchronized swimming or
breakdancing for an Olympic event.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Synchronice swimming.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Have you ever done dancing break breakdancing is for better.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No, break dancing is worse, is worse?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You would not want to see that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, No, has anyone ever thought that's a sport. I'm
not saying it's not hard. We somehow we misconstrue me
saying it's not a sport for me saying it's not difficult.
It's difficult. Lots of things in life are difficult. That
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doesn't make them a sport. That's a good point. You know,
it's not even a game of skill, like golf is
not really a sport. It's a game of skill. Synchronized
swimming you have to swim while you're doing it. There
is a performance. It's a performance sport, so to speak.
But working with somebody else, I don't know. I think
(31:45):
the fact that you have to swim while you're doing
it makes makes it better. Again, neither of them are
at the level of water polo or you know. I
just can't imagine you're winning a gold medal and you're
you're in the you're in the Olympic village and the
guy who won the hundred meters desh like, what'd you do? Like, well,
I'm the fastest human being on earth. What'd you do.
(32:07):
I won the breakdancing and the gold medals are essentially
the same, right, they're the same medals, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's I mean, that's like if you're in prison
and you know, you get caught jaywalking, you get thrown
in prison, and you're like, what'd you do? It's like,
I was jaywalker? What'd you do? He's like, yeah, I
murdered fifteen people. Like, those two things are not the same,
so their sentences are the same. The reward should not
(32:30):
be the same for breakdancing. Who thought breakdancing was a
sport needed to be in the Olympics. That's what I
want to know. The people that perform at halftime of
the actual sports are not the sports. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
No, I think you make an excellent point. All right,
we'll stick with the Olympics right now, Doug for better
or worse, Derek White or Jalen Brown for Team USA?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So why is replacing Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Obviously Jalen Brown was the finals MVP. He just won
the championship. He sent out an emoji. It's the Sherlock
Holmes emoji. You know what, the little like the little
what did we call that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Eye?
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Yes, yes, that's what it is, and he tweeted three
of those out and so obviously people are going crazy crazy. Yeah,
his comments are have gone you know, crazy on the posts.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What do you think it means?
Speaker 9 (33:26):
I think he's just like, okay, all right, so I
was left out of this too, And wasn't Jason Tatum
just selected for the cover of NBA. Yes, right, So
like I think all of this is happening, and that's
why he tweeted that out and people are enjoying themselves
on his Twitter page.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
My guess would be that's USA basked Will saying, what
do we need another versatile wing maybe? Or do we
need another The other part to to uh Derek White
getting picked is if Derek White doesn't play, Derek White's
not gonna saying mm hmmm. Whereas you know, he has
(34:05):
a reputation of being a guy who I don't know
how I don't have to playing. Like, look, if you're
playing with Lebron and if KD plays, you play with Lebron,
you play with KD, you play with some of the
kind of legendary guys they're going to play.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Yeah, we're going to play.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You can't have twelve that play man. Look, this was
part of the reason that that they thought they couldn't
bring Kaylen Clark's not really the reason, but it was
the excuse for not bringing Kaitlyn Gark.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Definitely an excuse.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Now, all right, well, let's talk about Kaitlyn Clark Doug
for Better or Worse, Angelries or Kitlyn Clark for WNBA
Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh God, talk about something I don't care anything about.
But it's not really close. It's not close. First of all,
Kaitlyn Clark's team's beat beating them. Yes, three of the
four teams they played three or four times they played.
I don't think it's particular close. It's Kaitlin Clark. But
(35:02):
I really like somehow we've created some fictitious argument that
we're supposed to care about. I did see that Angel
Reese's last two points from the free throw line were
like ten seconds to go, They're down nine. Yeah, posts
up and gets vouled like talk about stat padding.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Yes, yes, I saw that as well. It's hard to
not notice that. And then you know, Kaitlyn Clark is
out there doing triple double.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
I also think it is it is Kaitlyn Clark. But
Angel Reese, you know another double double. Hey, you're also
making your own little history. All right, let's move on, Doug,
for better or worse, the Phillies or the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Phillies are probably better right now. I just think in
the end the Dodgers is gonna be better. So I'll
say Dodgers better.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Wow, you have more confidence in my team than you do?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I do. You guys hate on your team in
a regular basis.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
You know, it's just yeah, it's part of being the
fan of the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It comes with it. Yeah, you're right, You're right, Okay,
Doug forbid.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know what it is real fast is infistration.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
People are going to really resent the analogy, and I
get it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It's going to make you uncomfortable. But you always hear
about the alcoholic father.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
And the worst thing about having an alcohol father isn't
that he comes home and beats the crap out of you,
is that you don't know if he's going to do
it or not.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
That's like being a Dodger fan. You just never know
what team you're going to get. Every day, every week,
every year.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
You just never know, and it's you're constantly living with anxiety.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I mean, that's well said.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
There's an interesting analogy.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
It is an interesting analogy, but I get it as well.
All right, quick one here, Doug for better or worse?
NBA All Star Festivities like including the game Slam Dunk
Contest or MLB All Star Festivities home run Derby the game?
Which one's better, which one's worse?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I mean, I sound like Jason here. I hate all
of it, but I would only say that Dunk Contest
is better than the home run Derby.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Is that game time or do one to have more time?
How much time?
Speaker 8 (37:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
That game time is game time? On The Doug Gottlieb Show, So.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Monti, I don't know if you've been here when you
discussed this. This is the end of the first half
year of the sports calendar. What's your favorite memory from
that first half year. We'll discuss ours next to the
Midway on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
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the show, you can just download the podcast, check it
out and podcast. This one's going to be an interesting
one because I feel like there's a real conversation to
(01:06):
be had. There's a lot. There's a lot to it,
and I kind of think I'm the perfect guy to
have this conversation. But there's also the realization that this
will likely get misconstrued and a lot of people are
gonna get mad because I'm telling the God's honest truth.
My gun he's the head coach. Mile Mountern Oaklham States
(01:27):
football coach is winning his football coach in the history
of the program. He's done an amazing job. I consider
him a friend, a mentor, someone who I text with
occasionally gives me a ton of personal and professional advice.
I like him a lot, and I do understand on
some level the realness that he wanted to share with
(01:51):
the world and relate it to how he's treating the
Doak Walker Award winner Ollie Gordon after's DUI arrest last week.
On the other hand, what what so here's my gunny
(02:11):
Oli Gordon, who didn't really this is what's crazy about it.
The first three games last year, he split time. They
had three running backs and three quarterbacks. By the time
he became the go to running back, then he became
the best running back in college football. He had an
amazing year. Oli Gordon is a beloved figure. I believe
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he's making somewhere close to seven figures to play football
at my alma mater. He's done anything and everything in
the name of the university, gone to events, chook hands,
kiss babies like in terms of trying to earn it
for appearances, He's done it. But then he gets to
(02:56):
dui arrest last week. And this was my gun to
yet big twelve media day yesterday, So I looked it
up on my phone.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What would be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point
eight and Ollie was point one. So I looked it
up and it was based on body weight. Not to
get into the legal side of it, but I thought,
really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying
what all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
(03:26):
my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine. So
I got lucky. People get lucky. All he made a
decision that he wished he could have done better. But
when I talked to Olli, I told him, I said,
you're lucky you got out, like because you make a
lot of money to play football. So back in the day,
being able to cover the cost of what he's going
(03:46):
to go through would be difficult.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
For a college player. It's not for him.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now, I'm not speaking for him, but I'm just saying
that's not an issue for him.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So nobody got hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
And I said, we see people doing this and people
losing their life across the country, not just football players
but everybody.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So you got out lucky.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah. So there's a bunch of contradictions within it, right,
because he's right, OLLI was very lucky. He's right, people
have done this. Now. One of the miscalculations is the
three or four beers. That's three or four beers in
an hour. Right, you have three or four beers, You're
not going to over four or five hours. You're not
(04:29):
going to go over the legal limit. You have three
or four beers within the hour, you will. I am
not some prude. I am not some unrealistic human being. I'm,
by the way, having somebody who's committed a criminal offense,
which is very different. But I'm not going to sit
here and deny that I haven't always made deny that
(04:52):
I've made the wrong decision more than ten times in
my life. But not only am I not going to
say it, I know it's not true. It hasn't been
over a thousand times, not even ten times in which
I've had a couple of beers and got behind the
wheel of a car. And I just I think everything
(05:16):
about it was off. Everything about it was off. Like
your best player, your highest paid player, gets a DUI,
and your response to his punishment isn't We're going to
run him till his ankle smoke. And look, I get it,
the the off season suspension is stupid, right, But the
(05:40):
hey I might hand him his punishment is I'm going
to hand him the ball fifty times. Excuse me? How
could we possibly have gotten to this point where Mike
Gundy says a couple of the right things. Hey, he's
very lucky that no one was killed, very very lucky
(06:01):
that no one was killed, and he needs to face
the music. But what music answering a couple of hard questions.
That's it. That's the music paying your own legal fees,
That's that's the music. I just I can't even begin
to comprehend the conversation that Mike Gundy had to have
(06:21):
today with Chad Weiberg's athletic director where doctor shrum his
president over what he said. I'm just that one blows
my mind that his punishment is going to be facing
the music, but not extra conditioning or running in the
(06:43):
Oklahoma heat and not and not you know, going into
a community service with mothers against drunk driving, or not
taking away the keys to his car. He may the
decision that he probably shouldn't have made. No, he made
a decision that could have taken his in other people's
(07:05):
lives and taken the power of somebody his powerful decision
can cost. Did anyone see the car accident? What was
the Minnesota Vikings football player that was killed with two
other football players over the way again, Tyree Jackson, Kyrie Jackson?
Have you seen his car? His car was completely and
(07:29):
totally annihilated. No one survives it, and reportedly alcohol played
a factor. I just look, I've been hit by a
drunk driver before. Guy blew a point two four and
nearly ended me on the West Side Highway in New York.
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But I'm not too close to this one. I do understand.
I've had a couple of years and got behind the
wheel of a car and not felt good about it.
I would never say I've done it a thousand times,
and I haven't done it as an adult because I've
grown up and I'm matured, and I understand that. While
that doesn't mean it should be a death sentence to
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Ali Gordon's career. The idea that the highest paid member
of a state institution, the winning his football coach of
all time, says that he's done it a thousand times
and the punishment should be handing him the ball fifty
times in the opening game is so remarkably obtuse to
(08:36):
how it comes across. It is mind blowing. And I'm look,
I'm sure Michael hear this, and maybe he'll be upset
with it. Maybe he won't. I know they've released a
statement which is on social media about what I meant
to say. It doesn't matter. Nobody goes back to the
(08:58):
what you meant to say us and even in what
he meant to say, what he's doing is all that matters,
which is nothing. What are we doing? Yes, he makes
a lot of money to play football, and so the
two things that should happen when you have a dui
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is one you get some of the money back, and too,
you don't get to play football. As much. Well, you know,
if I spend one game it doesn't do anything. I
suspend him six games maybe, But then that's unfair to
the rest of the team, is it, Yeah, I know
it is. I know it's unfair to the rest of
the team. But that's what Ali Gordon did. He did
something incredibly selfish and there needs to be a punishment
for it. Otherwise why not do it again? Well, next time,
(09:44):
we're gonna be really serious about it, like really, And
I understand there's an embarrassment to it. There's the legal fees.
Nobody's technically harmed. But to who much is given, more
is expected and and this is not raised. This is
this is not what anybody would expect a response to
(10:07):
be from a decorated, crazy, successful Division one men's head
football coach. And I do believe that Mike is about
the right things. I love the honesty with which he
shares things. But this is if that's honesty, then dude, honestly,
over a thousand times, and I don't think he read
(10:27):
the chart correctly, but regards which over a thousand times,
And I think that's an embellishment. You've gotten behind the
wheel of a car having drank potentially too much like
I don't. I don't even know how to like how
you would handle that, I don't? Does it hit you differently?
(10:48):
Jason Stewart? Am I my missing something? Am I am
I being to buy the book that I'm my missing?
How does it land on you?
Speaker 4 (11:01):
That's my question to answer your first question. You're not
missing anything. I think everything that you just said is
absolutely true, and you're speaking from a point where you
could relate most of anyone in this room. You're in
a different position now, you represent your university and you're
a leader of young men. Public comments should be much
(11:24):
more filtered. I guess you could appreciate the honesty, But
this is like if I sat down with Mike Gundhy
at a bar after a couple of Budweisers, that's probably
what he would tell me. But that's not a great
barometer for how you should answer questions at media days
when your conference is being in the spotlight for a day.
So I thought it was pretty damn stupid.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I just that one holy cow, And just so people
are aware, I do not have rules, like written down
rules with with with my team. The rules that we
do have is if you've had too much to drink. Okay,
(12:13):
you are to call me, text me. There's a group
chat with any other player. We have the managers as well,
and if it gets to me, gets to me, I
will come pick you up wherever you are and drop
you off where you need to go, no questions asked.
But if you get behind the wheel that car, okay,
(12:35):
I lose all sorts of power because I can't change
what the police will do. I can't get involved in
a police thing. And I have no time for people
who committed to you why And I say the same
thing about if you smoke. It's illegal in the state
of Wisconsin. If you get behind the wheel of a
car and you're smoking, you get behind the wheel of
a car or And I've also said if there's if
(12:55):
there's any sort of beef between you and a woman,
you are to get a way and if you need
me to pick you up, I will pick you up,
no questions asked, no judgment. But you are not to
get behind a wheel of a car if you've been
drinking or smoking. So I just that's one where I
(13:18):
know there's going to be a percentage of people who
are like finally, a coach who's honest, But like your
if that's your reality, that thousands a thousand times you've
gotten behind the wheel of a car having four or
five beers in an hour, three to four beers in
an hour, that's a really scary thought. Even if it
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is true, it's not to be said, and it shouldn't
be true because that's a lot of times. That's a
lot of times you've made a bad decision.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yes, Chris Prophett, I think that that point you just
made there is the most salient. I was talking with
a friend about this lately. And for those and you
don't know this, Doug, but there is a back at
the middle school I went to. There is a bench
there with my ants, with my form with my past
ant's name on it, who died in high school because
of a car accident. That we just I think sometimes,
(14:10):
especially thinking about you know, you see someone cutting you
off or weaving through doing ninety or in DUI, like,
we don't have respect for the power at our hands
that an add a automotive vehicle gives you. You are
piloting tons of metal flying at inhuman speeds, speeds that
are not natural in the world out there, And I
(14:32):
think in our country we just have no respect for
the power that's in our hands, or that we don't
think of anyone but ourselves on that road which we
share out there at the end of the day. And
I think when you start talking about DUI, that is
the ultimate sign of disrespect for that power at your hands.
It's just it's really sad to hear these comments. It
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just does not seem to again reckon with the fact
that you have the power to just kill multiple people
with this vehicle. Even Stone sober.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Right, But I mean again, the bigger point is you're
not just making a bad decision for yourself. You're making
a bad decision for people you don't know, you haven't
come out in contact with. And you know what I mean, Like,
I just I cannot fathom the response is one hundred
and eighty degrees in the wrong direction of anyone who
(15:28):
has any sort of pulse of what the response should be.
And I can and like, look, here's how friendship works
with me, is I can't be friends with you if
I can't share that that response is way off. And
again doesn't mean that Mike, I wouldn't consider my gun
to your friend, and I wouldn't stand up for him
(15:49):
and say he's done, you know, a thousand amazing things
since he's been the head coach at Oklahoma State, including
turnaround the team last year to do it his way,
and he's about the right things. But this is wrong.
I mean a day in which Brett yor Mark had
(16:12):
some awesome comments and really amazing what the Big twelve
has done off of Death's door, and the only thing
anybody's talking about really is Mike Gundy saying, ah, yeah,
I've basically I've got behind the wheel with too much
to drink a thousand times. And yeah, my punishment for
Ali Gordon at getting a dui the best running back
(16:33):
in the country is I'm going to hand the ball
fifty times maybe in the opening game. Yikes, what year
is this? What country are we in? These are not
things to be celebrated.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
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(17:24):
I want to get to with you. I want to
play for you.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
Though.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is Chris Paul, and this is why he said
he chose to join the Spurs this offseason.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
There's probably no player in the league that everybody in
the league talks about after the game like him, because
everybody has their just stuff. Me and Harrison was on our.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Flight yesterday just.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Talking about how cool it's going to be at this
point in our career is to get a chance to
appreciate him day.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
In and day out.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
My family is everything.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
My wife is here, my kids are back in LA
and that's where they will be during the season. And
I love basketball so much that I could be close
to home. But if I'm not playing, I'm not happy.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Opie. What do you think of Chris Paul saying, Hey, one,
I just I want to appreciate wembya up close, but two,
I'm really playing because I'm not happy when I'm not playing.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
I mean, it's different, you know, it's different than the
normal you know, take that athletes have. You know, I'm
trying to get the championship, which is an ultimate goal
and so obvious. Of course you want to win championship,
but I kind of like it because it is refreshing.
He's being honest. Hey, I want to play, and so
I mean, but you've been playing for almost what seventeen
(18:39):
eighteen years now? So I got much more playing do
you want? I would think that at this point in
your career, like to go out winning a championship would
be paramount, But apparently it's not for him. So whatever
happened with the Warriors. But again, it's not so much
teams and everything else. It's Chris Paul and his body.
You know, that's been the problem. It's like you could
(19:02):
set your watch to when Chris Paul is going to
get hurt doing the season, no question.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Uh. And you know the problem is he can't start
on a championship team, right, So he's just not good
enough at this point his crew to start a championship.
Or maybe he thinks that Wemby's ability to defend the
rim can help him with that. I'm not sure. Let's
let's go through a bunch of things. Well, what's your
(19:28):
reaction to Clay Thompson shutting the Lakers and signing with
the Mavericks.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
I like it. I like her for the Mavericks. I
like her for Clay. You know, he made have I
watched his press conference. He made a very interesting commet yesterday.
You know, I saw how they got along and while
he was watching the Mavericks play, and that spoke volumes
to me. I think something definitely happened. You know, we're
(19:54):
all going to say stuff for the media and everything else,
say all the right things, but I do believe, you know,
times when you're speaking, some shoots will come out. And
I think there was a point in time during last season,
maybe the last couple of seasons, where things changed dramatically
and he saw the writing on the wall and he
made a decision. He made a business decision, And I
(20:16):
don't think he wanted to go with the Lakers, because
it's a no win situation for somebody like a Klay Thompson.
If they win, it's because of Lebron. If they lose,
it's because somebody else, And I don't think he wanted
to deal with that.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
What's your thoughts on how the Lakers fandled the whole
Bronny thing.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Oh man, that's a great question, and I know that's
been you know, one of the subjects of the summer.
I personally think, okay, the best way to pus it.
Lebron is very powerful, he used his power. Rich Paul
is very powerful, he uses his power. I get all that,
but I think they've set a precedent and it's not
(20:59):
good for the game because we don't get four year
contracts and guaranteed deals for a second round picks, especially
at number sixty five. That just doesn't happen. So now
you've change the game again. It is what it is.
You know, if you have that kind of juice and
you want to use it, more power to you. But
(21:19):
his teammate, Boogie ellis deserved to be drafted before him,
and nothing against the young man. I think he's going
to be a fine player one day, but it's not today.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean, do you think that causes players to
not want to play with Lebron?
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Of course it does, and that's what's been happening. You
we saw again with Clay Clay that would have been
a perparticulary. That's the team you grew up liking and
you have a chance to go there. But he saw
again what the Lakers need more than anything else. It's
outside shooting consistently, and that's something that Clay has built
a legacy on. And to me, he saw it for
(21:58):
what it was. He saw every other thing about it,
and it's a It was a bad move, you know, technically,
but again I understand how it happened, but it was
from a basketball so that was just pure basketball. It
was whack.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Uh yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't say I disagree
with you. Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio
Olden Paul and is our guess. He's our Fox Sports
Radio NBA insider. Okay, Paul George leaves the Clippers first,
the Clippers started low, ended up at three, from one
to fifty. Paul George leaves and goes to the Sixers.
What are your thoughts on first the Clippers and how
(22:35):
they handle things well?
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And Paul Jones made the comment, you know, he felt disrespected.
But again I'll say this, Doug, I wish I could
be disrespected with some of these copsact offers. These guys
are being feeling disrespected about so, but again, the Clippers
in the grand scheme of things, because you gave James
Harden a better deal than Paul George. And so I
(23:02):
get all of that, and what you were offering. The
man's asking one extra year, you know, if you really
respect and give it to him. But again, I know
the new NBA and the new collective bargaining with the
first apron and the second apron. I get all that.
But if you really wanted that man, you know you
would have found a way to do it. And so
to me, him going to Philadelphia is a great move
(23:25):
for him because they need somebody like Paul George. Now, again,
if they're gonna play most of the season, you hope.
But if he stays healthy and with other additions, man, Philadelphia,
to me, I don't care about Boston winning the championship.
Philadelphia is going to be the team to be.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Philadelphia is a going to be. What about Boston? Jason
Tatum said, Hey, they've ended all debates, have they? Like,
have we answered all the questions about Tatum?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Hey, man, Jason say, I'm a great young player, But
there was no debate. There's still no debate. I mean,
that's like when one championship doesn't mean anything. You know,
you shop one puzzle, but there's multiple puzzles. They're still
going to be debate, you know, about your game or
(24:15):
anything else. So it's his way of trying to say,
you know what I've done with you guys have criticized
me about I wasn't able to win the championship. Okay, fine,
but there's other things involved. I mean, where do you
want your legacy to be? So again, these guys, a
lot of these guys are just really you know, they're
very weak. You know, the mindset is like they affected
(24:39):
by every comment, every critique, you know, and they got
to respond and answer. It's like, dude, play basketball, play
your game. You guys want to enjoy it, but don't
worry about criticism.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Old Baldy's joining us here at Doug Gottlieb Show Fox
Sports Radio. Okay, so we talked Celtics, We've talked sixers,
We've talked a little Mavericks. What do the Nuggets do right?
The nugget sauce Bruce Brown last year, this year, Contavious Calwell, Pope,
the bench has not been the same and now a
sudden the starting lineupso can be same. You're the Nuggets.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
What do they look like, Well, they're looking like what
they did before they won the championship. I mean now
and after a while, team starts figuring things out. And
I'm not saying you can stop Nikolo jokich O Jamal Murray,
but they were things that happened like that Minnesota series
told us a lot energy is gonna beat Minnesota hardwark,
(25:34):
I mean, will beat Denver. And that's what Minnesota had.
They had an influx of hard work and determination and
they were just like coming at you full steam ahead,
a young supersaw and Anthony Edwards, you know, his confidence
level was so high, and I don't think Denver really
(25:55):
recovered from the first couple of punches early on. And
so to me, it's just a situation where no matter
what Denver that does now, teams will be able to
figure it out, like let's stop Jamal Murray, let's stop
Jokis and everybody else we don't care about because Michael Porter,
you don't know which one. And granted he's had a
lot of stuff to deal with off the court, no
(26:17):
fault of his own, but he's dealt with a ton
of stuff and he didn't show up for the playoffs.
I mean there's a couple of games. If he just
knocks down one or two shots, Denver wins. And so
to me, those are the issues for the Denver Nuggets
getting consistent play. Aaron Gordon plays one great game, one
four pointer, and so it's one of those things. You know,
(26:39):
those are the issues for the Nuggets, and so they're
gonna have to resolve those situations.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Olden, you're the best man. I love the honesty with
your commentary and the thought you put into it. Love
having you on. Thanks so much for me our guests.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's our guy op On Polonies, longtime NBA vet giving
us his thoughts. He's our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.
Here's Moncey Bolanos for a quick cupdate. MANSI, Hi, Doug,
how are you hello? I'm well.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
I have a question for you, so if you can
help me out, if you have maybe a secret uh
plan for me to move forward because I am having
plantar fasci itis like I've never had it before. And
since you play your coach, do you have a secret
weapon to fix my foot.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Plant fasciais yes, I've heard the only way to fix
that one. There's like two ways. One a ton of
rest or to have a complete tear of it, and
then you have then you have to have it repaired. No,
then it's better. This hur's a really painful one. Is
there a deal where you maybe somebody else who's had
this can text us or put it on ig deal?
(27:47):
You take like a water bottle and you like rub
your foot and roll your foot in a water bottle
and strengthens it. I don't know a water bottle, Jason
water bottle.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Well, the water bottle with the ice, I guess would
that kind of helps with the swollen.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I don't feel like it's swollen.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
So what happened is I went to the doctor and
he said, what would really help is that you lose
thirty pounds perfect, And I did that, but I don't
think that's your issue.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Thirty pounds.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Bathing with epsom salt.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Salt worksome salt hold on salt work.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They're fantastic. Yes, Is it.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Actually work or is it like a Is it like
a mental thing?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It is absolutely.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
I I use not not plant or fasciattis, but for
something else, I use like a combination of epsom salts
and witch hazel and it's I feel completely different after
getting out of the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Have you guys, this is a complete side note. Have
you ever tried like a weed bath bomb, like a
THHC infused salts? I have not, would it's amazing.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
Interesting, Okay, see the good Thanks guys, going to try
both of these.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
No, I've not gotten behind the wheel of a car,
nor have I done it a thousand times, and I've
only done in states in which it's legal and there's
no ingesting of it at all. Right, No, this sounds great.
Simply in the salts and then like your your muscles
like relax.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
Oh okay, okay, thank you, Seanya. I was asking the
right people.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I don't know if I told you. I didn't tell
you anything about about planner fasciatus. I told you to
rub your foot around.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
I know I'm gonna do all this water bottle.
Speaker 9 (29:23):
I wanted something different because I have a spiky ball
and it hasn't helped.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So I just wanted to see.
Speaker 9 (29:28):
If there was something out there that wasn't like the
normal you know, use a ball, use a golf ball.
That's what I was trying to But I got good
ideas so thank you, fellas.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
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Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
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(30:10):
get the months and bologno some play game.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Either months. What's the game?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Oh well, this is how I keep track of my week.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So what are we playing? Chris?
Speaker 6 (30:28):
For Better or Worse?
Speaker 9 (30:30):
Meaning it's Wednesday, all right, Doug. So you're gonna tell
me what you think is better or worse when I
give you two different options. So we're gonna start with
this one for better or worse? Synchronized synchronized swimming or
breakdancing for an Olympic event.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Synchronice swimming.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
Have you ever done dancing break breakdancing is for better.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
No, break dancing is worse, is worse?
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You would not want to see that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, No, has anyone ever thought that's a sport. I'm
not saying it's not hard. We somehow we misconstrue me
saying it's not a sport for me saying it's not difficult.
It's difficult. Lots of things in life are difficult. That
(31:24):
doesn't make them a sport. That's a good point. You know,
it's not even a game of skill, like golf is
not really a sport. It's a game of skill. Synchronized
swimming you have to swim while you're doing it. There
is a performance. It's a performance sport, so to speak.
But working with somebody else, I don't know. I think
(31:45):
the fact that you have to swim while you're doing
it makes makes it better. Again, neither of them are
at the level of water polo or you know. I
just can't imagine you're winning a gold medal and you're
you're in the you're in the Olympic village and the
guy who won the hundred meters desh like, what'd you do? Like, well,
I'm the fastest human being on earth. What'd you do.
(32:07):
I won the breakdancing and the gold medals are essentially
the same, right, they're the same medals, right, Yeah, Yeah,
that's that's I mean, that's like if you're in prison
and you know, you get caught jaywalking, you get thrown
in prison, and you're like, what'd you do? It's like,
I was jaywalker? What'd you do? He's like, yeah, I
murdered fifteen people. Like, those two things are not the same,
so their sentences are the same. The reward should not
(32:30):
be the same for breakdancing. Who thought breakdancing was a
sport needed to be in the Olympics. That's what I
want to know. The people that perform at halftime of
the actual sports are not the sports. Yeah, good point.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
No, I think you make an excellent point. All right,
we'll stick with the Olympics right now, Doug for better
or worse, Derek White or Jalen Brown for Team USA?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So why is replacing Kawhi Leonard?
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Obviously Jalen Brown was the finals MVP. He just won
the championship. He sent out an emoji. It's the Sherlock
Holmes emoji. You know what, the little like the little
what did we call that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Eye?
Speaker 9 (33:12):
Yes, yes, that's what it is, and he tweeted three
of those out and so obviously people are going crazy crazy. Yeah,
his comments are have gone you know, crazy on the posts.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
What do you think it means?
Speaker 9 (33:26):
I think he's just like, okay, all right, so I
was left out of this too, And wasn't Jason Tatum
just selected for the cover of NBA. Yes, right, So
like I think all of this is happening, and that's
why he tweeted that out and people are enjoying themselves
on his Twitter page.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
My guess would be that's USA basked Will saying, what
do we need another versatile wing maybe? Or do we
need another The other part to to uh Derek White
getting picked is if Derek White doesn't play, Derek White's
not gonna saying mm hmmm. Whereas you know, he has
(34:05):
a reputation of being a guy who I don't know
how I don't have to playing. Like, look, if you're
playing with Lebron and if KD plays, you play with Lebron,
you play with KD, you play with some of the
kind of legendary guys they're going to play.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Yeah, we're going to play.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You can't have twelve that play man. Look, this was
part of the reason that that they thought they couldn't
bring Kaylen Clark's not really the reason, but it was
the excuse for not bringing Kaitlyn Gark.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Definitely an excuse.
Speaker 9 (34:32):
Now, all right, well, let's talk about Kaitlyn Clark Doug
for Better or Worse, Angelries or Kitlyn Clark for WNBA
Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh God, talk about something I don't care anything about.
But it's not really close. It's not close. First of all,
Kaitlyn Clark's team's beat beating them. Yes, three of the
four teams they played three or four times they played.
I don't think it's particular close. It's Kaitlin Clark. But
(35:02):
I really like somehow we've created some fictitious argument that
we're supposed to care about. I did see that Angel
Reese's last two points from the free throw line were
like ten seconds to go, They're down nine. Yeah, posts
up and gets vouled like talk about stat padding.
Speaker 9 (35:19):
Yes, yes, I saw that as well. It's hard to
not notice that. And then you know, Kaitlyn Clark is
out there doing triple double.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So I'm with you.
Speaker 9 (35:27):
I also think it is it is Kaitlyn Clark. But
Angel Reese, you know another double double. Hey, you're also
making your own little history. All right, let's move on, Doug,
for better or worse, the Phillies or the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Phillies are probably better right now. I just think in
the end the Dodgers is gonna be better. So I'll
say Dodgers better.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Wow, you have more confidence in my team than you do?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I do. You guys hate on your team in
a regular basis.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
You know, it's just yeah, it's part of being the
fan of the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
It comes with it. Yeah, you're right, You're right, Okay,
Doug forbid.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
You know what it is real fast is infistration.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
People are going to really resent the analogy, and I
get it.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It's going to make you uncomfortable. But you always hear
about the alcoholic father.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
And the worst thing about having an alcohol father isn't
that he comes home and beats the crap out of you,
is that you don't know if he's going to do
it or not.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
That's like being a Dodger fan. You just never know
what team you're going to get. Every day, every week,
every year.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
You just never know, and it's you're constantly living with anxiety.
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I mean, that's well said.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
There's an interesting analogy.
Speaker 9 (36:40):
It is an interesting analogy, but I get it as well.
All right, quick one here, Doug for better or worse?
NBA All Star Festivities like including the game Slam Dunk
Contest or MLB All Star Festivities home run Derby the game?
Which one's better, which one's worse?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I mean, I sound like Jason here. I hate all
of it, but I would only say that Dunk Contest
is better than the home run Derby.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
Is that game time or do one to have more time?
How much time?
Speaker 8 (37:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:10):
That game time is game time? On The Doug Gottlieb Show, So.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Monti, I don't know if you've been here when you
discussed this. This is the end of the first half
year of the sports calendar. What's your favorite memory from
that first half year. We'll discuss ours next to the
Midway on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
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