July 17, 2024 • 40 mins
In this week's version of "The Midway" Doug and the crew discuss sports movies that passed the smell test. Doug welcomes NBA analyst and former NBA champion Antonio Daniels onto the show to discuss Bronny James and all of the other major news around basketball. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a Wednesday edition of "The Press".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's no white dire Bye. Jud may well come in.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hope you're having a great day up here in northeast Wisconsin.
Kind of feels like an early fall day. You know,
we need to do something. Right is when they ask
you back. It's like when you get the second date
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I gotta point out, I think I must be really
really good, really good at this store out the first
pitch thing. Uh, because no, the Brewers did not ask
me back. Although you know they're probably saving that one.
I'm probably saving that one for playoffs, you know, playoff
baseball probably back. I mean, I'm just I'm that good.
(01:10):
But the Green Bay Rockers, okay, the minor league team.
I'm throw out the first pitch tonight for that. So
pretty excited about that one. That one's in Green Bay. So, uh,
I think I'm gonna work a breaking ball in tonight.
Jase too, I think that's what I do. You know,
I actually, honestly, I really didn't. I really didn't throw
(01:32):
a fastball last time. So this time I'm gonna probably
try and throw the heat. Like if you skip one
in minor league baseball, it's okay, you just can't skip
one when you're when you're with the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I mean, we haven't even discussed what happened on Friday.
The only footage I've seen is of you throwing the ball.
I don't I didn't see where the ball went. Was
that on purpose?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, I didn't tell anybody what to shoot or how
to shoot it. I don't care. I didn't rear back
and throw it hard. I felt like I rushed it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
There were several people throwing out first pitches, so you feel.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You get out there, You're like, I got to like
do my deal and get out of here. Uh. It
was high. It wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But over the plate, probably you know, six inches too high,
maybe more.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It wasn't a rocket. Wasn't the best I could do,
but I did.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I got to warm up the the bat boys and
the ball boys out in right field, and I got
bolled a mint and I got to warm up.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So I felt like I was loose.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But then I tell you run out there and you
step on the mound, You're like, this is totally different
than warming up on flat surface.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So uh, anyway, let's get to the midway. It's not
getting the middle with you.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's time for stuck in the middle the midway.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, there, Jason Stewart, We told you we were going
to waste some time and talk sports movies, which isn't
really wasting time, although it kind of is.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What angle do you want to take in these sports movies?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know what I was watching? I was watching Moneyball
recent and I remember at the time Moneyball, the book,
when it came out, I'm like, I wonder, I wonder
how they're gonna make a movie out of this book,
because it's there are so many things about the book
that have nothing to do with you know, like visuals
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and on field baseball it's a lot about numbers and
analytics and explaining what analytics are. And I'm like, how
are they going to turn this into a movie? And
they did, and I think it's an underrated sports movie.
Like it's so well done. I want to say Aaron
Sorkin wrote the screenplay. Ryan could help me out on that,
But I think it was really good. And I'm thinking, like,
(03:41):
what sports movies and this is what I look for.
Maybe we could do this from like our experience what
sports movies like past the smell test as far as
real being as genuine, Yeah, as real and authentic as
it actually is. How about that? Well, we have opinions
on that.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, there was a lot of There was a lot
of real in Blue Chips. And one of the things
they did in Blue Chips that was cool with the
basketball scenes looked like they're real because they used a
high school gym in Indiana and they had some of
the best graduating college players in some pros just play,
didn't just play, and then they captured the footage of it,
(04:25):
so it wasn't it wasn't like Carlton trying to play
basketball like it was real basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I thought that was a good one.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I remember that, and so I think what you're getting
to though, is that the actual fall of the movie
was that the plot line was pretty ridiculous, right, it
was kind of over the top and cliched and how.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They Yes, No, I mean, honestly, I think there was
a lot of that. Like I know of a I
know of a school that a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ended up mirror.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, they didn't get anybody a tractor, but it
was an older coach who similarly needed to win and
similarly sold his soul. I think he was fired at
the end of the year anyway, So that one's actually happened.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think it was a little bit over top of
the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh, he got game was over the top in terms
of the visit to college.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
By the way, it's blue chips, right, A lot of
people don't know this, and only you would be familiar
with us, probably Brea Olinda standout. Kevin Walker is one
of the guys, like one of the extras playing playing ball.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yep, Kevin Walker, right, Kevin Keith So older brother, what
do U c l A?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then I think it's Keith or Kevin one of
their sons is really I think not a lot of
top mentioned by name, but talented player, like recruitable athlete
right now in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I just thought you'd know that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I guess I could talk about because there's a pre
existing relationship there.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, let's offline about that. Yep, Brian, you got in
what sports movies past smell test?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
For you?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
What's most seldonte.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Now, this is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.
I know it's not the greatest baseball movie ever, but
it's my personal favorite baseball movie, and that is Major League.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Who doesn't.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
You'd be surprised. There's a lot of people out there
with bad taste. Who well, you have bad taste, Doug. No,
you love Major League, Doug, I've.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Heard love Major League.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It's like an that's an old timer. Old timer? What
about a pass to the smell test?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Exactly? I think that's where I question.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think you're like really right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's like a like a guy pulls up in a
half Volkswagen half rolls Royce and comes to town and
out of a bed that they move in the middle
of the night because he's not really a camp invite t.
He wakes up and in his pajama as he beats
people in a in a race to first base.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Hey, I never said the movie was realistic.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
I'd have said it was my personal thing A close second,
but it is Bull Durham for me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I love Bulldham.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I got no problem and Bull Durham seems to pass
a little bit more of the smell test, right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes, I agree, it's all Costner. He looks like he's
played ball. Nuklush is ridiculous. His wind up and delivered
this ridiculous. But I will say that Tim Robbins playing
Nuklush underrated uh performance. Almost every scene he steals with
just kind of his humor and his antics. That's my
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favorite sports movie of all time.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I have a realistic one. Have you ever seen? Was it?
Is it? Vision Quest? You've never seen Vision Questions?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I don't think so. Wrestling wasn't my thing And in
the Madonna sound sound I didn't draw me on.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You need to watch that.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's a great eighties flick, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Mon? That same Vision Quest?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
No chance? Ryan? Have you seen it?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
It's you know, it's a decent movie, Doug. It's not bad.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, there you go. I like I like Vision quest.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm trying to think what others give me the sport,
And I can tell you the movie a leak of
their own, appears like I don't know, you guys have
seen any of the footage of the women's professional Baseball league,
but it actually appears to be.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Fairly realistic. Fairly realistic.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I thought the movie was Okay, it's a pretty
good job, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I mean one of my favorite one is Remember the Titans.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I was gonna mention that one.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I probably remember the Titans.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Didn't they run a reverse when they were all like
the fifty yard line to win the game. And you're like,
who would possibly run a reverse at the yard line
to win a game?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like that would never win you a game? Right, like
you throw a hail Mary into the inzel?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Right?
Speaker 9 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
But the Yeah, all of my favorite sports movies are
the ridiculous ones. So that's why I'm having a hard
time here as to which one smells.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Passes the smell test.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
But I did think of Remember the Titans is the
closest one for me because I just like my ridiculous
sports movies like Dodgeball.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Does that one pass the smell test?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, it's funny as hell. But it's so good.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's basketball. How about that one?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Ridiculous? Well, I'm absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Basketball is not a real sport. So if there was
a real sport called basketball, I think it would be
exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So it may pass the smell test more than we think. Even.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yes, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's like a million dollar baby.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Baby's great. Yeah you know what that was. That's a
really good one.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Very underrated. If that's under rated, I think it won
the Best Picture.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But you can't rated some people have forgotten about it.
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, but I would, yeah, definitely, Jason. You can't say
something's underrated if it won the Accademy Award.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yes, the best Rocky three.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That was the Hull Holgan one, right, mister T.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
My friend, and I pity.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Hulk Hogan's also in it.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Ryan, Yes, I know, Doug, Yes, but no one thinks it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You were so eager to pounce on Jason yes for saying.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You should have said yes, and mister T said.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No one said the Hulan movie. No one does that.
Now you can't find me one person.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Going to say the whole Hogan movie. He didn't say
the whole Hogan movie.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
The first thing that should pop up should be mister T.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What was mister T's character's name? Where's club or lang from?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I don't know who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Chicago?
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What was his prediction?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Pain?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Pain?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The biggest issue with mister T was at that point
in time he was the nation's biggest badass.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Although mister T, have you ever met him in person?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yes, he's very nice, he's super nice.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
He's tiny, well now he is guys like seventy years old.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He's never been big.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
He's just not a big fella, right, Like neither is
Sevester Saloon, although he was all juice step.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Whatever, allegedly allegedly, but just in general, I don't think
the I don't think the Rocky movies passed the smell test, right.
There are utter lack of defense in those championship fights.
It's very questionable you play defense with so you got,
you got.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You good? So you got Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Anybody gets punched in the face that many times not
only has brain damage, but it's dead by the end
of the fight.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
That doesn't happen the series. Rocky does have brain dams.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yo, know, I probably shouldn't take all the shots before.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, was there a soccer one that's realistic? Bend
it like Beckham?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean it was realistic.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I mean it was fun.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
I don't know if it was realistic. But did it
jump the shark badly? Maybe not either?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What was the what was the movie? Jason? Again? I
think this is eighties?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Uh with the It wasn't a prison break, but they
were weren't they po W's or something they were playing
in or were they just playing internationally and.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They stored in the field. Pele was in the movie.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh that was called Victory with Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, Sylvester stone was a goaltender. Pele was It took place?
And I want to say it was in Germany? They
were American prisoners in Germany.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, it could totally happen.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
By the way, Big Mike just submitted blood Sport. What
do we what do we think of blood Sport?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
The blood Sport?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah? You never seen blood Sport? No?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I haven't.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Am I missing out?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (13:06):
Okay, it's a boxing movie.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, not a boxing movie?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Fighting? Yes?
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Okay, fighting? Okay, squeeze me squeeze. No, Jean Claude van
damn Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Blood Sport was essentially UFC before UFC, right, that was
the idea of it. So yeah, I can't say I've
ever seen a blood Sport whatever, but try to think
basketball movies.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That were that were realistic. Coach Carter, Uh sure not Airbud.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I loved Airbud.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Airbud could happen?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, did that pass the smell test any of the
air buds? Because didn't they do an airbud forever Sport?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I only that's the first one. It was great.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Above the rim of two Fox your core, how about
that one?
Speaker 10 (14:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Bother room is al right.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There was a movie in the seventies called Gus is
a Disney movie.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No, it's uh rudy, it's no amazing Grace, amazing Grayce
and Gus right or amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah it was actually I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'd love the kid Alex English was in it. No,
that was amazing Grayson Chuck not Gus.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
My bad.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you're conflating. I'm thinking of the one with Don
Notts and then Gus was a donkey who coocked field goals.
So it's very realistic.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That could totally happen. What about what about have you
ever seen a donkey? Have you ever seen a donkey
kick a field goal? No, so we don't know what
it would actually look like. It's a little baseball that
could be exactly what looks like a donkey? Cool running,
cool runnings? Yeah, yeah, sort of sure. What was the
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movie where the guy was a former.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hockey player and the figure skater needed a partner?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Cutting Edge?
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Nice?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I like?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Cutting Edge was really good.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, And and she was always saying every time you
mess up, she's ay toe pick because apparently figure skaters
have a toepic and hockey players that aren't used to
the toepick.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's how you stop and plant and jump.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So yeah, I'll submit that one with a little.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Support from Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Cutting Edge, sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Cutting Edge, cutting Edge. So we've gotten hockey. No no, no,
no wait wait wait get in the middle. Come on, man,
I had a good one. Why am I thinking it's
another Kevin Costner? Why am I? Why am I blanking? Golf? Movie?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Cheech merrit tin Cup? I like tin Cup. I thought
there was some reality to it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You know, I agree.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Keep hitting the ball in the drink.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Though.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
With the US Open We've kind of seen it, but
not to that level. But yeah, anyway, and that's that's
the that's the middle of the midway, not the middle midway.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Midway. There we go. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
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Speaker 2 (16:20):
Show Fox Sports Radio. So this was this is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He went on Serious XM and he talked about Ronnie
James and he related to one current NBA player.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
We used the example yesterday we were at the Canada
USA Basketball exhibition game and I turned to one of
our assistant coaches during the game and I said, I
think I think lou Dort just single handedly broke up
the eighth possession of the game. Like his impact, you
can't get into your offense. Sometimes the shot clock winds
down because of his ballpress. Sure, he literally blows up
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entire plays because of that pressure. And I really believe
this Ronnie eventually will be that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, I'm going to disagree with JJ. Now, in fairness,
JJ is the coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I am not. But what.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Here's what, Here's what lou Dort is able to do.
I agree lou Dort has one. He's a completely different athlete, right.
He's he's built like a football player. He can guard
just about any position. But what you you don't do
once a guy gets to nineteen And this is something
that we've said here and it's played out as much
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and others have started to say, is Bronnie really doesn't
have an identity as a basketball player. Right There isn't
And when once you get past the starters in the NBA,
you kind of have to have an identity and lean
into what you do and don't do what you don't
do and the idea of just being a complete nuisance defensively,
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and I agree with JJ in that there is an
absolute role for it. I always bring up this name,
Jorge Gutierras, and our next guest I believe played against
Horney gutiers My brother recruited Jorge to Cal. He was
at Finley Prep and the reason he recruited him to
Cal from Finley Prep was the coaches at Finley Prep
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told him that he wins just about every game and
some of the other team wants to fight him every game,
and that has a value and four years later, Horney
Gutiers was PAC twelve Player of the Year and he
played for I think like six teams in the NBA.
He's now playing in his home country of Mexico. And
the point is that you don't just invent that. You
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don't just go like, hey, here's a good defensive player.
Let's make him a complete nuisance on defense that doesn't
happen that has to be nurtured and grown and developed.
He's not a point guard that has to be nurtured
and grown and developed. He's not an leade shooter that
has to be nurtured and grown and developed. You can't
get to being nineteen years old in the G League
(19:03):
and go, hey, now now you're going to be some
sort of pest defensively. That's my feelings. That's my feelings.
Let's bring in somebody who's actually done it in the
NBA analyze the NBA for a living and one NBA
championship as part of the San Antonio Spurst Antonio Daniels Joys.
Of course, he's also the analyst for the New Orleans
Pelicans television network. He joins in the Doug Gottlieb Show
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on Fox Sports Radio. Where are you on the idea
that you can make Bronnie into some sort of defensive menace.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I don't think you can make him a defensive minute.
I understand what JJ Reddick was trying to say. We
talked about this on my Feras XM show today, and
you know we always say, you know, comparison is a
fee for joy. I think when you look at Bronnie James,
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there is nothing thus far that we've seen that like
completely jumps off the page, like completely jumps off the screen.
We say, he's incredibly fast, he can handle the ball well,
excellent playmaker, crazy athlete, all these different like he does
a lot of things well and has some physical physical
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attributes because of his lineage that we know that will
be passed down to him.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
So I understand what JJ Reddick was saying as far
as and for me, I think this along the lines
of who he wants Bronnie to be. And you basically
said the same exact thing that I said today. Does
I can't see him being someone like lou Dort because
lou Dort is one to six three six four, but
he's also built like a linebacker. Bronnie's not built like
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a linebacker. For me, Bronnie James is more along the
lines of a Gary Payton, a second right, someone who's smaller,
doesn't have a clear cut defined position, but has the
ability to be really good defensively.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I agree, but but but let me let me Blue
Door is not let me let me just interject, okay,
because it's a great comp right, son of a great
player who not as big, because because because GP two
is not nearly as big as his dad, he's not
really built like his dad, but he has unbelievable deep
defensive instincts.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I will tell you though that what's interesting is my
brother coached GP two in college at Oregon State, and
he was like, look, dude, that guy just makes place
like he doesn't. He's not a great shooter, but he's
an unbelievable finish your competitor.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He just makes play.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And anyway, the point is that GP two is literally
the same player or person he was in college. And
he wasn't a very good junior college player, by the way,
he wasn't a great high school player in but his
last year at Oregon State, when they went to the
first NCAA tournament in twenty five since his dad was
in there.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
He just is a playmaker.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And my again, my point is like we're we keep
trying to say Bronnie's this, Bronnie is that. Like the
way in which Bronnie plays, for the most part, is
how he's always played. He's always played off the basketball,
He's always played really well as a teammate. He's always
shot open shots. He's always been pretty good defensively. But
there's nothing that stands out that he does that's elite,
(22:15):
and we try and we're trying to make him elite
at something that he's never really been elite at.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Well, I think saying saying that's like I understand what
you're saying, Doug, but it's also another side of them,
something potential wise, like just because the guys really good
defensively doesn't mean that he can't become elite defensively. We've
seen guys that are are you know, like they're good shooters,
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and you tell yourself, like, gosh, all the mechanics are
in place. He has the potential to be a great
shooter or an elite shooter, even though he's not there yet.
So again, I'm not with the comparing to lou Dort,
because that's different. Lou Dort's physicality, to me sets him apart.
And I think jaj was correct in his assessment of Loudort.
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But I think with Ronnie James, the fact that he
is a two guard in a point guard's body means
that there has to be another area that you have
to look at and say he's better. He has to
be really, really good in this area, and I think
defensive instincts is something that if you watch Ronnie play
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in high school, you know that you saw some of
that stand out that has sped out. It doesn't mean
that he's going to be elite defensively, but that has
stood out to me more than anything else as far
as something that has the ability to transfer to the
left level.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Anthony Dan's our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What does the rest of the league,
And I know you can't speak for everybody in the
rest league, but you have a show on Serious XM.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know everybody in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
What does the rest of the league think of how
this looks for the organization?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I don't I would think right now it's it's they
wait and see So the question that we asked today, Doug,
the question that we open our Seras x show, our
Seras XM show with today was is Bronnie James an
NBA basketball player? And basically we discussed it and took
(24:24):
calls on it, you know.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
And it's funny the the thoughts out there about Bronnie James,
because it's amazing to me how there are other guys
that were drafted ahead of Bronnie James that aren't playing
well at all.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
But you don't you don't doubt or question whether or
not those particular players are NBA basketball players. Alex Sar
was supposed to be the number one overall pick in
the draft, went oh fifteen yesterday. Nobody's talking about it,
nobody's discussing it. But look at it. Look at his percentages,
look at his numbers throughout the course of summer league.
(24:59):
Look at Alex Starre who was supposed to be the
number one overall pick and ended up going second. Look
at his percentages throughout sobber. But no one's questioning whether
or not that young man is an NBA basketball player
or not. And it's because we're in different This is
his story, because we've never discussed a number fifty five
overall pick like this. But the thing that we have
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to remember this is a number fifty five overall pick.
That's it. It's almost like people are putting the pressure
on Bronnie to be his dad off the jump. It
ain't happen. It ain't happen. People are saying, you know what,
Bronnie took the spot from this person, and Bronnie took
a spot from that person. You can go throughout the
first round. There are guys that were drafted that average
(25:42):
three points a game in the first round, right, But
everybody's so focused on Bronnie James for some reason. And
I know the reason. We both know the reason. It's
because of who his father is. And I think it's unfair,
I really do. I think it's unfair for myself or
anyone else to make it a sense on Bronnie James
after four or five summer league basketball games, because the
(26:05):
thing that we both seen do We've seen gods ball
out in summer league and struggle during the regular season,
and then we've seen guys struggle during summer league and
ball out during the regular season. So I just don't
think it's fair to make that assessment about a player
this young into his NBA career, this early, I.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Would agree with.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
My counter would be I saw him his senior year
in high school and there was there was just nothing
there to go.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
This is a dude, right, Like he's the McDonald's All American, though.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He shouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
He was a McDonald's All American the same reason he got drafted.
Antonio like, he wasn't one of the ten best Now Antonio,
I lived in southern California. I went to his high
school games. It wasn't close. Okay, you go back. They
played Sherman Oaks Dore Name four times, lost all four times.
He was not one of the five best players on
the floor at any point in time.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's not close. It wasn't close.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He wasn't one of the ten best players in his
high school league, in the Mission League.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Okay, you know, I'm sure you know. Clinton Parks. Feel
free to ask him.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's Clint Parks will workout, guys, Kawhi's workout guy.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Ask him he coached in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like I went to the game again, and then this year,
wait this year on this year at USC wait this
year us see if he's an NBA player and Andy
Enfeld is barely playing him and they stink. Then Andy
Enfeld has to be the dumbest human being of all time.
And Nienfeld is not a dumb human being. And when
he the more he played him, the less they won.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But you're going to get different perceptions from different people
because there are certain people that will say, you know what,
he he wasn't this, and there are other people that
say he was this. So basically we're basically saying the
same thing. The jury is still out. The jury is
still out because there ever, guys, I can ask you
(27:54):
right now, is it safe to say this guy is
a quote unquote NBA player or is this guy the
thing I've said about Brinnie today is the rotation ready
one hundred percent?
Speaker 9 (28:03):
He's not.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
But is he an NBA basketball player by title? Yes?
Because by title what that means is you get drafted
and you sign a guaranteed contract. He's done that. He's
done that. Like you take this out of the basketball
world and put it in the world of any other occupation.
There are good teachers, bad teachers, good doctors, bad doctors,
good lawyers, bad lawyers. What they all have in common
(28:27):
is what they did to get there, Like, you don't
become a lawyer without going through school, getting the proper
backing behind you. Academically speaking, Now, when you get there,
there are certain things that set doctors apart, which is
still a doctor. I'm not saying Bronnie James is an
elite basketball player. I'm not saying Brinnie James is a
(28:48):
rotation basketball player. What I'm saying is Brinnie James is
so early in his career that there are all these
assessments and opinions that are being thrown out about him
at this particular point in this career that I don't
think is fair to him or any any young NBA player.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Obviously nineteen years old, you've got a chance to grow.
I'm telling you that my analysis of him is not
based upon Summer league alone.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If you're basing somebody's career based on summer league, that
is a fatal flaw you in your.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now, for example, do you know Jalen Brunton every six
months a game in the summer league.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Again the difference. The difference is though that Jalen Brunson
won two national championships.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Before he got that's the case. If that's the case,
and I knew that's where you go, then why wouldn't
he go in the summer league to dominate them.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Because there's a different sport, it's a different level.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Nicola Jokic, Nicola Jokic didn't ever double figures in summer league.
And I'm not comparing Brownie James to those guys.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I understand the I understand what you're saying. Again, there's
there's a difference, okay. And and Jalen Brunston is the
hardest one, right. He went in the second round because
he didn't have the size attributes, he didn't jump up
right charts athletically right, and he just kept getting and
but but, but Jalen Brunson has been this guy from
(30:20):
high school until college, until the pros. He's been the
exact same guy. He's doesn't go by people, and yet
he scores. He shouldn't be able to get a shot off,
and yet he does the things he's doing now. He's
been able to do at that level every level on
the way up. And what I'm saying about Bronnie is
Bronnie being a guy who plays away from the ball,
who's a nice defender, who can catch and shoot, who
(30:42):
can occasionally make an athletic play go into the basket
and just kind of stays out of the way and
stays out of the fray. That's who he's been at
every level. And are your your expectations of him are
to completely change into being something that he has never
been to this point, and that that's really really hard.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Even though he he's young.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He played basketball a long time, and like he's he's
never been dominant in any form or fashion in the
last two years that I've seen him when he should
have a McDonald's Americans should dominate a high school game.
There was never a high school game that he dominated.
And there was definitely never a college game that he dominated.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
So question, like, so everybody everybody that's in college, right,
or everybody that was in the draft this year, do
you think they dominated?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, it was a bad draft. No.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But but again, but many of that, many of them
have other elements that check boxes, right. Franz Wagner is
a perfect example. He won a great college player at
all at Michigan. Now I don't know if he's worth
what they paid him. Again, the difference is Franz Wagner's
six foot ten, and you know, and and there were
a lot of things there that you could point to
(31:54):
that eventually those things will work. Whereas with Brownie, again,
my point is that he is He's always going to
be small. He ain't grown anymore, for sure, that's true.
He's though he jumps well, he's not really laterally athletic.
Now you can fix some of that, some of that
with time, and the other part to it, and I
think you can attest to it is there does come
(32:15):
a point where you get beaten down by the expectations.
And look, a lot of these expectations, they're not from
us in the media. We didn't force his dad to
tweet out that he's better than half the guys in
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
His dad did that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
His dad did that, okay, and that that's what kind
of caused this, and he didn't. I don't know why
Jonathan Gravoni ranked him as the tenth best prospect.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No one had him there.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That that hype is going and the fact that he
hasn't played well has to wear on him. And at
some point your confidence waivers, and if you lose your confidence,
it's really hard to get back.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Listen, dog. I tell people all the time, I think
the most difficult thing to carry over from college to
the pros is your confidence. There's nothing more difficult. When
I was at Bowling Green State University before I got drafted,
I was top ten in the country and scoring in
a cis All it takes is getting and putting the
wrong situations, in a situation where you know you and
(33:14):
the coach don't see II or coach doesn't have the
confidence in you that Jim lairer Nega had in me.
You know now, that really messes with your mental Coach
tell used to tell me all the time, this game
is eighty percent mental and twenty percent physical. All these
guys have the mental tools, I mean the physical tools
to be successful. What sets you apart is your mental fortitude.
(33:36):
And right now there's not a player in this draft
that is getting more criticism, that is getting more attention
than Bronnie James. I went to Vegas for my daughter's
volleyball Nationals. A week ago. We went down the baggage claim.
On baggage claim, there was a giant time about the
Las Vegas Summer League. Bronnie James was front and center.
(33:58):
Bronnie James was front center. The number fifty five overall
pick was front and center, with Alex Star on one
side and Jalen Brunson and Victor women Yama off in
the background. Bronnie James with front and center.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Now, there's an incredible.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Amount of pressure that comes along with this that again,
it will fool with your mental because if the number
fifty four overall pick, or the number fifty three overall pick,
or the number fifty two overall pick they had a
bad game, or shoot an airborne in the game, nobody cares.
But when Bronni does it, it goes viral. Everything that
this young man does, good and bad, and a lot
(34:35):
of it's been bad, it's gonna go viral. And you
can't tell me, being at that age, being nineteen years old,
that this doesn't screw with a confidence in your mental.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And Bob Knight was the mental is the physical.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
As for as to one, so's your there's your eighty
twenty as well. He agreed with with Kochel, Hey, Tony,
you're the beast man.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
How'd your daughter do? Did they win?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
No one of their They ended up twelve in the country.
One of their best hitters got hurt from the second day.
Their best hitter got hurt in the second day and
they can never recover.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Man, I've heard, I've heard there's more ex hooper, volleyball,
volleyball girl.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Oh my god, at this tournament ever. I see everybody
at these tournaments, guys I played against, guys I played with. Like,
it's awesome. It's like an NBA reunion.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I've heard my boy Miles Simon's out there. He was like, dude,
Richard Jefferson, all these sorry name and names is like,
that's like an NBA All Star game. It's amazing. Tell
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Speaker 8 (36:57):
Moncey would have got We're gonna start with Davante Adams here, Doug.
You know, there's been rumors that maybe he wants to
leave Las Vegas. Yesterday his agents did come out and
say that there was absolutely no merit to those rumors.
No trade, No trade talks have happened with the Raiders. Well,
Davante Adams has finally spoken himself, talking to Shannon Sharp
(37:18):
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Speaker 11 (37:20):
Answered like this, if I'm be reunited with anybody, it
would be Aaron but or be you know, relocated and
be anywhere. It would be with Air. But that's that's
not really my you know, it's a lot of that
stuff going on last year in the media and them asking,
you know, what are you gonna do about this? Are
you are you thinking about going here? And they talk
about whatever without me even being involved in it, and
(37:42):
it ended up getting all the way to the point
where it got in the locker room and people was
thinking that it was you know, I was going to
happen force and I'm like, y'all just don't understand, man.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
So what do you make of that? Doug?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I just I made it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
He didn't want to play with Jimmy Garoppolo, he didn't
want to play for Copikana.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's it. Jimmy Grappolis thinks that's it.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
On Twitter, I just saw a video of a reporter
from Fox six I think out of like Milwaukee or
maybe Green Bay, Lily Zou And it's a quick video
ten seconds. It's nothing to play, but they're asking Jordan
Love at a football camp yesterday how our extension talks going,
and a PR person stops him from answering and says
(38:27):
news to come, and Jordan Love smiles and just says
news to come.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, they're getting a deal done.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I haven't like pressed. I just met Brian Goodekunst
a couple of weeks ago. We changed texts about something else.
I mean, but I mean he made it seem like
I didn't ask him straight up, but he made it
seem like Jordan's mare quarterback for a long time. So
I mean that's that's not breaking the news.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, no, yeah, you know, they just thought it was
gonna happen. I think right before training cap okay, quickly here.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Gues Monday, Yes, probably announced that's the kind of thing
that's you announced first day camp and then you.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Just become right, very very right quickly.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Scottie Shuffler outright favorite to win the Open, which starts tomorrow.
He's been the outright favorite in this entire calendar year,
all four majors, the first guy to do that since
Tiger Woods did it back in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
What a year Scotty Shuffler has had.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He's amazing, And it's what's crazy is we like never
really enter him into the like all time great golfer,
no discussions, and we need to start having.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
You know, we're getting close to being able to do that.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Yeah, and that's the press.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That you get out there and pressed.
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That was the press.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's no white dire Bye. Jud may well come in.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hope you're having a great day up here in northeast Wisconsin.
Kind of feels like an early fall day. You know,
we need to do something. Right is when they ask
you back. It's like when you get the second date
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I gotta point out, I think I must be really
really good, really good at this store out the first
pitch thing. Uh, because no, the Brewers did not ask
me back. Although you know they're probably saving that one.
I'm probably saving that one for playoffs, you know, playoff
baseball probably back. I mean, I'm just I'm that good.
(01:10):
But the Green Bay Rockers, okay, the minor league team.
I'm throw out the first pitch tonight for that. So
pretty excited about that one. That one's in Green Bay. So, uh,
I think I'm gonna work a breaking ball in tonight.
Jase too, I think that's what I do. You know,
I actually, honestly, I really didn't. I really didn't throw
(01:32):
a fastball last time. So this time I'm gonna probably
try and throw the heat. Like if you skip one
in minor league baseball, it's okay, you just can't skip
one when you're when you're with the Brewers.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I mean, we haven't even discussed what happened on Friday.
The only footage I've seen is of you throwing the ball.
I don't I didn't see where the ball went. Was
that on purpose?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
No, I didn't tell anybody what to shoot or how
to shoot it. I don't care. I didn't rear back
and throw it hard. I felt like I rushed it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
There were several people throwing out first pitches, so you feel.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You get out there, You're like, I got to like
do my deal and get out of here. Uh. It
was high. It wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But over the plate, probably you know, six inches too high,
maybe more.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It wasn't a rocket. Wasn't the best I could do,
but I did.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I got to warm up the the bat boys and
the ball boys out in right field, and I got
bolled a mint and I got to warm up.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So I felt like I was loose.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
But then I tell you run out there and you
step on the mound, You're like, this is totally different
than warming up on flat surface.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So uh, anyway, let's get to the midway. It's not
getting the middle with you.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's time for stuck in the middle the midway.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, there, Jason Stewart, We told you we were going
to waste some time and talk sports movies, which isn't
really wasting time, although it kind of is.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What angle do you want to take in these sports movies?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You know what I was watching? I was watching Moneyball
recent and I remember at the time Moneyball, the book,
when it came out, I'm like, I wonder, I wonder
how they're gonna make a movie out of this book,
because it's there are so many things about the book
that have nothing to do with you know, like visuals
(03:18):
and on field baseball it's a lot about numbers and
analytics and explaining what analytics are. And I'm like, how
are they going to turn this into a movie? And
they did, and I think it's an underrated sports movie.
Like it's so well done. I want to say Aaron
Sorkin wrote the screenplay. Ryan could help me out on that,
But I think it was really good. And I'm thinking, like,
(03:41):
what sports movies and this is what I look for.
Maybe we could do this from like our experience what
sports movies like past the smell test as far as
real being as genuine, Yeah, as real and authentic as
it actually is. How about that? Well, we have opinions
on that.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Well, there was a lot of There was a lot
of real in Blue Chips. And one of the things
they did in Blue Chips that was cool with the
basketball scenes looked like they're real because they used a
high school gym in Indiana and they had some of
the best graduating college players in some pros just play,
didn't just play, and then they captured the footage of it,
(04:25):
so it wasn't it wasn't like Carlton trying to play
basketball like it was real basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I thought that was a good one.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I remember that, and so I think what you're getting
to though, is that the actual fall of the movie
was that the plot line was pretty ridiculous, right, it
was kind of over the top and cliched and how.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They Yes, No, I mean, honestly, I think there was
a lot of that. Like I know of a I
know of a school that a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ended up mirror.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You know, they didn't get anybody a tractor, but it
was an older coach who similarly needed to win and
similarly sold his soul. I think he was fired at
the end of the year anyway, So that one's actually happened.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think it was a little bit over top of
the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Uh, he got game was over the top in terms
of the visit to college.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
By the way, it's blue chips, right, A lot of
people don't know this, and only you would be familiar
with us, probably Brea Olinda standout. Kevin Walker is one
of the guys, like one of the extras playing playing ball.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yep, Kevin Walker, right, Kevin Keith So older brother, what
do U c l A?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then I think it's Keith or Kevin one of
their sons is really I think not a lot of
top mentioned by name, but talented player, like recruitable athlete
right now in Alabama.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I just thought you'd know that.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I guess I could talk about because there's a pre
existing relationship there.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah, let's offline about that. Yep, Brian, you got in
what sports movies past smell test?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
For you?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
What's most seldonte.
Speaker 7 (06:04):
Now, this is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine.
I know it's not the greatest baseball movie ever, but
it's my personal favorite baseball movie, and that is Major League.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I love that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Who doesn't.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
You'd be surprised. There's a lot of people out there
with bad taste. Who well, you have bad taste, Doug. No,
you love Major League, Doug, I've.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Heard love Major League.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It's like an that's an old timer. Old timer? What
about a pass to the smell test?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Exactly? I think that's where I question.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think you're like really right.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's like a like a guy pulls up in a
half Volkswagen half rolls Royce and comes to town and
out of a bed that they move in the middle
of the night because he's not really a camp invite t.
He wakes up and in his pajama as he beats
people in a in a race to first base.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Hey, I never said the movie was realistic.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
I'd have said it was my personal thing A close second,
but it is Bull Durham for me.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I love Bulldham.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
I got no problem and Bull Durham seems to pass
a little bit more of the smell test, right.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yes, I agree, it's all Costner. He looks like he's
played ball. Nuklush is ridiculous. His wind up and delivered
this ridiculous. But I will say that Tim Robbins playing
Nuklush underrated uh performance. Almost every scene he steals with
just kind of his humor and his antics. That's my
(07:40):
favorite sports movie of all time.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I have a realistic one. Have you ever seen? Was it?
Is it? Vision Quest? You've never seen Vision Questions?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I don't think so. Wrestling wasn't my thing And in
the Madonna sound sound I didn't draw me on.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You need to watch that.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
That's a great eighties flick, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Mon? That same Vision Quest?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
No chance? Ryan? Have you seen it?
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
It's you know, it's a decent movie, Doug. It's not bad.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Okay, there you go. I like I like Vision quest.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
I'm trying to think what others give me the sport,
And I can tell you the movie a leak of
their own, appears like I don't know, you guys have
seen any of the footage of the women's professional Baseball league,
but it actually appears to be.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Fairly realistic. Fairly realistic.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yeah, I thought the movie was Okay, it's a pretty
good job, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
I mean one of my favorite one is Remember the Titans.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I was gonna mention that one.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, I probably remember the Titans.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Didn't they run a reverse when they were all like
the fifty yard line to win the game. And you're like,
who would possibly run a reverse at the yard line
to win a game?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like that would never win you a game? Right, like
you throw a hail Mary into the inzel?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Right?
Speaker 9 (09:06):
No?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
But the Yeah, all of my favorite sports movies are
the ridiculous ones. So that's why I'm having a hard
time here as to which one smells.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Passes the smell test.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
But I did think of Remember the Titans is the
closest one for me because I just like my ridiculous
sports movies like Dodgeball.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Does that one pass the smell test?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
No, it's funny as hell. But it's so good.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
It's basketball. How about that one?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Ridiculous? Well, I'm absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Basketball is not a real sport. So if there was
a real sport called basketball, I think it would be
exactly like that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So it may pass the smell test more than we think. Even.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
Yes, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's like a million dollar baby.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Baby's great. Yeah you know what that was. That's a
really good one.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Very underrated. If that's under rated, I think it won
the Best Picture.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But you can't rated some people have forgotten about it.
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, but I would, yeah, definitely, Jason. You can't say
something's underrated if it won the Accademy Award.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yes, the best Rocky three.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
That was the Hull Holgan one, right, mister T.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
My friend, and I pity.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Hulk Hogan's also in it.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Ryan, Yes, I know, Doug, Yes, but no one thinks it.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
No, no, no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You were so eager to pounce on Jason yes for saying.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You should have said yes, and mister T said.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
No one said the Hulan movie. No one does that.
Now you can't find me one person.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Going to say the whole Hogan movie. He didn't say
the whole Hogan movie.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
The first thing that should pop up should be mister T.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What was mister T's character's name? Where's club or lang from?
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I don't know who cares?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Chicago?
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
What was his prediction?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Pain?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Pain?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
The biggest issue with mister T was at that point
in time he was the nation's biggest badass.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Although mister T, have you ever met him in person?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Yes, he's very nice, he's super nice.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
He's tiny, well now he is guys like seventy years old.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
He's never been big.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
He's just not a big fella, right, Like neither is
Sevester Saloon, although he was all juice step.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Whatever, allegedly allegedly, but just in general, I don't think
the I don't think the Rocky movies passed the smell test, right.
There are utter lack of defense in those championship fights.
It's very questionable you play defense with so you got,
you got.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
You good? So you got Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Anybody gets punched in the face that many times not
only has brain damage, but it's dead by the end
of the fight.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
That doesn't happen the series. Rocky does have brain dams.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yo, know, I probably shouldn't take all the shots before.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, was there a soccer one that's realistic? Bend
it like Beckham?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I mean it was realistic.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I mean it was fun.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
I don't know if it was realistic. But did it
jump the shark badly? Maybe not either?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
What was the what was the movie? Jason? Again? I
think this is eighties?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Uh with the It wasn't a prison break, but they
were weren't they po W's or something they were playing
in or were they just playing internationally and.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
They stored in the field. Pele was in the movie.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Oh that was called Victory with Sylvester Stallone.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, Sylvester stone was a goaltender. Pele was It took place?
And I want to say it was in Germany? They
were American prisoners in Germany.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, it could totally happen.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
By the way, Big Mike just submitted blood Sport. What
do we what do we think of blood Sport?
Speaker 5 (12:58):
The blood Sport?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah? You never seen blood Sport? No?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I haven't.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
Am I missing out?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (13:06):
Okay, it's a boxing movie.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah, not a boxing movie?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Fighting? Yes?
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Okay, fighting? Okay, squeeze me squeeze. No, Jean Claude van
damn Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Blood Sport was essentially UFC before UFC, right, that was
the idea of it. So yeah, I can't say I've
ever seen a blood Sport whatever, but try to think
basketball movies.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That were that were realistic. Coach Carter, Uh sure not Airbud.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I loved Airbud.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Airbud could happen?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, did that pass the smell test any of the
air buds? Because didn't they do an airbud forever Sport?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (13:59):
I only that's the first one. It was great.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Above the rim of two Fox your core, how about
that one?
Speaker 10 (14:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Bother room is al right.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
There was a movie in the seventies called Gus is
a Disney movie.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
No, it's uh rudy, it's no amazing Grace, amazing Grayce
and Gus right or amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah it was actually I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'd love the kid Alex English was in it. No,
that was amazing Grayson Chuck not Gus.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
My bad.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah, you're conflating. I'm thinking of the one with Don
Notts and then Gus was a donkey who coocked field goals.
So it's very realistic.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That could totally happen. What about what about have you
ever seen a donkey? Have you ever seen a donkey
kick a field goal? No, so we don't know what
it would actually look like. It's a little baseball that
could be exactly what looks like a donkey? Cool running,
cool runnings? Yeah, yeah, sort of sure. What was the
(14:55):
movie where the guy was a former.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hockey player and the figure skater needed a partner?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Cutting Edge?
Speaker 8 (15:05):
Nice?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I like?
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Cutting Edge was really good.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, And and she was always saying every time you
mess up, she's ay toe pick because apparently figure skaters
have a toepic and hockey players that aren't used to
the toepick.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's how you stop and plant and jump.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
So yeah, I'll submit that one with a little.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Support from Ryan.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Cutting Edge, sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Cutting Edge, cutting Edge. So we've gotten hockey. No no, no,
no wait wait wait get in the middle. Come on, man,
I had a good one. Why am I thinking it's
another Kevin Costner? Why am I? Why am I blanking? Golf? Movie?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Cheech merrit tin Cup? I like tin Cup. I thought
there was some reality to it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
You know, I agree.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Keep hitting the ball in the drink.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Though.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
With the US Open We've kind of seen it, but
not to that level. But yeah, anyway, and that's that's
the that's the middle of the midway, not the middle midway.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Midway. There we go. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in
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Speaker 2 (16:20):
Show Fox Sports Radio. So this was this is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
He went on Serious XM and he talked about Ronnie
James and he related to one current NBA player.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
We used the example yesterday we were at the Canada
USA Basketball exhibition game and I turned to one of
our assistant coaches during the game and I said, I
think I think lou Dort just single handedly broke up
the eighth possession of the game. Like his impact, you
can't get into your offense. Sometimes the shot clock winds
down because of his ballpress. Sure, he literally blows up
(17:02):
entire plays because of that pressure. And I really believe
this Ronnie eventually will be that guy.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, I'm going to disagree with JJ. Now, in fairness,
JJ is the coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I am not. But what.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Here's what, Here's what lou Dort is able to do.
I agree lou Dort has one. He's a completely different athlete, right.
He's he's built like a football player. He can guard
just about any position. But what you you don't do
once a guy gets to nineteen And this is something
that we've said here and it's played out as much
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and others have started to say, is Bronnie really doesn't
have an identity as a basketball player. Right There isn't
And when once you get past the starters in the NBA,
you kind of have to have an identity and lean
into what you do and don't do what you don't
do and the idea of just being a complete nuisance defensively,
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and I agree with JJ in that there is an
absolute role for it. I always bring up this name,
Jorge Gutierras, and our next guest I believe played against
Horney gutiers My brother recruited Jorge to Cal. He was
at Finley Prep and the reason he recruited him to
Cal from Finley Prep was the coaches at Finley Prep
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told him that he wins just about every game and
some of the other team wants to fight him every game,
and that has a value and four years later, Horney
Gutiers was PAC twelve Player of the Year and he
played for I think like six teams in the NBA.
He's now playing in his home country of Mexico. And
the point is that you don't just invent that. You
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don't just go like, hey, here's a good defensive player.
Let's make him a complete nuisance on defense that doesn't
happen that has to be nurtured and grown and developed.
He's not a point guard that has to be nurtured
and grown and developed. He's not an leade shooter that
has to be nurtured and grown and developed. You can't
get to being nineteen years old in the G League
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and go, hey, now now you're going to be some
sort of pest defensively. That's my feelings. That's my feelings.
Let's bring in somebody who's actually done it in the
NBA analyze the NBA for a living and one NBA
championship as part of the San Antonio Spurst Antonio Daniels Joys.
Of course, he's also the analyst for the New Orleans
Pelicans television network. He joins in the Doug Gottlieb Show
(19:25):
on Fox Sports Radio. Where are you on the idea
that you can make Bronnie into some sort of defensive menace.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
I don't think you can make him a defensive minute.
I understand what JJ Reddick was trying to say. We
talked about this on my Feras XM show today, and
you know we always say, you know, comparison is a
fee for joy. I think when you look at Bronnie James,
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there is nothing thus far that we've seen that like
completely jumps off the page, like completely jumps off the screen.
We say, he's incredibly fast, he can handle the ball well,
excellent playmaker, crazy athlete, all these different like he does
a lot of things well and has some physical physical
(20:16):
attributes because of his lineage that we know that will
be passed down to him.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
So I understand what JJ Reddick was saying as far
as and for me, I think this along the lines
of who he wants Bronnie to be. And you basically
said the same exact thing that I said today. Does
I can't see him being someone like lou Dort because
lou Dort is one to six three six four, but
he's also built like a linebacker. Bronnie's not built like
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a linebacker. For me, Bronnie James is more along the
lines of a Gary Payton, a second right, someone who's smaller,
doesn't have a clear cut defined position, but has the
ability to be really good defensively.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I agree, but but but let me let me Blue
Door is not let me let me just interject, okay,
because it's a great comp right, son of a great
player who not as big, because because because GP two
is not nearly as big as his dad, he's not
really built like his dad, but he has unbelievable deep
defensive instincts.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I will tell you though that what's interesting is my
brother coached GP two in college at Oregon State, and
he was like, look, dude, that guy just makes place
like he doesn't. He's not a great shooter, but he's
an unbelievable finish your competitor.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He just makes play.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And anyway, the point is that GP two is literally
the same player or person he was in college. And
he wasn't a very good junior college player, by the way,
he wasn't a great high school player in but his
last year at Oregon State, when they went to the
first NCAA tournament in twenty five since his dad was
in there.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
He just is a playmaker.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And my again, my point is like we're we keep
trying to say Bronnie's this, Bronnie is that. Like the
way in which Bronnie plays, for the most part, is
how he's always played. He's always played off the basketball,
He's always played really well as a teammate. He's always
shot open shots. He's always been pretty good defensively. But
there's nothing that stands out that he does that's elite,
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and we try and we're trying to make him elite
at something that he's never really been elite at.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Well, I think saying saying that's like I understand what
you're saying, Doug, but it's also another side of them,
something potential wise, like just because the guys really good
defensively doesn't mean that he can't become elite defensively. We've
seen guys that are are you know, like they're good shooters,
(22:43):
and you tell yourself, like, gosh, all the mechanics are
in place. He has the potential to be a great
shooter or an elite shooter, even though he's not there yet.
So again, I'm not with the comparing to lou Dort,
because that's different. Lou Dort's physicality, to me sets him apart.
And I think jaj was correct in his assessment of Loudort.
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But I think with Ronnie James, the fact that he
is a two guard in a point guard's body means
that there has to be another area that you have
to look at and say he's better. He has to
be really, really good in this area, and I think
defensive instincts is something that if you watch Ronnie play
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in high school, you know that you saw some of
that stand out that has sped out. It doesn't mean
that he's going to be elite defensively, but that has
stood out to me more than anything else as far
as something that has the ability to transfer to the
left level.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Anthony Dan's our guests here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What does the rest of the league,
And I know you can't speak for everybody in the
rest league, but you have a show on Serious XM.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You know everybody in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
What does the rest of the league think of how
this looks for the organization?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I don't I would think right now it's it's they
wait and see So the question that we asked today, Doug,
the question that we open our Seras x show, our
Seras XM show with today was is Bronnie James an
NBA basketball player? And basically we discussed it and took
(24:24):
calls on it, you know.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
And it's funny the the thoughts out there about Bronnie James,
because it's amazing to me how there are other guys
that were drafted ahead of Bronnie James that aren't playing
well at all.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
But you don't you don't doubt or question whether or
not those particular players are NBA basketball players. Alex Sar
was supposed to be the number one overall pick in
the draft, went oh fifteen yesterday. Nobody's talking about it,
nobody's discussing it. But look at it. Look at his percentages,
look at his numbers throughout the course of summer league.
(24:59):
Look at Alex Starre who was supposed to be the
number one overall pick and ended up going second. Look
at his percentages throughout sobber. But no one's questioning whether
or not that young man is an NBA basketball player
or not. And it's because we're in different This is
his story, because we've never discussed a number fifty five
overall pick like this. But the thing that we have
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to remember this is a number fifty five overall pick.
That's it. It's almost like people are putting the pressure
on Bronnie to be his dad off the jump. It
ain't happen. It ain't happen. People are saying, you know what,
Bronnie took the spot from this person, and Bronnie took
a spot from that person. You can go throughout the
first round. There are guys that were drafted that average
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three points a game in the first round, right, But
everybody's so focused on Bronnie James for some reason. And
I know the reason. We both know the reason. It's
because of who his father is. And I think it's unfair,
I really do. I think it's unfair for myself or
anyone else to make it a sense on Bronnie James
after four or five summer league basketball games, because the
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thing that we both seen do We've seen gods ball
out in summer league and struggle during the regular season,
and then we've seen guys struggle during summer league and
ball out during the regular season. So I just don't
think it's fair to make that assessment about a player
this young into his NBA career, this early, I.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Would agree with.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
My counter would be I saw him his senior year
in high school and there was there was just nothing
there to go.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
This is a dude, right, Like he's the McDonald's All American, though.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
He shouldn't have been.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
He was a McDonald's All American the same reason he got drafted.
Antonio like, he wasn't one of the ten best Now Antonio,
I lived in southern California. I went to his high
school games. It wasn't close. Okay, you go back. They
played Sherman Oaks Dore Name four times, lost all four times.
He was not one of the five best players on
the floor at any point in time.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's not close. It wasn't close.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He wasn't one of the ten best players in his
high school league, in the Mission League.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Okay, you know, I'm sure you know. Clinton Parks. Feel
free to ask him.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
He's Clint Parks will workout, guys, Kawhi's workout guy.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Ask him he coached in the league.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like I went to the game again, and then this year,
wait this year on this year at USC wait this
year us see if he's an NBA player and Andy
Enfeld is barely playing him and they stink. Then Andy
Enfeld has to be the dumbest human being of all time.
And Nienfeld is not a dumb human being. And when
he the more he played him, the less they won.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
But you're going to get different perceptions from different people
because there are certain people that will say, you know what,
he he wasn't this, and there are other people that
say he was this. So basically we're basically saying the
same thing. The jury is still out. The jury is
still out because there ever, guys, I can ask you
(27:54):
right now, is it safe to say this guy is
a quote unquote NBA player or is this guy the
thing I've said about Brinnie today is the rotation ready
one hundred percent?
Speaker 9 (28:03):
He's not.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
But is he an NBA basketball player by title? Yes?
Because by title what that means is you get drafted
and you sign a guaranteed contract. He's done that. He's
done that. Like you take this out of the basketball
world and put it in the world of any other occupation.
There are good teachers, bad teachers, good doctors, bad doctors,
good lawyers, bad lawyers. What they all have in common
(28:27):
is what they did to get there, Like, you don't
become a lawyer without going through school, getting the proper
backing behind you. Academically speaking, Now, when you get there,
there are certain things that set doctors apart, which is
still a doctor. I'm not saying Bronnie James is an
elite basketball player. I'm not saying Brinnie James is a
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rotation basketball player. What I'm saying is Brinnie James is
so early in his career that there are all these
assessments and opinions that are being thrown out about him
at this particular point in this career that I don't
think is fair to him or any any young NBA player.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Obviously nineteen years old, you've got a chance to grow.
I'm telling you that my analysis of him is not
based upon Summer league alone.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
If you're basing somebody's career based on summer league, that
is a fatal flaw you in your.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Now, for example, do you know Jalen Brunton every six
months a game in the summer league.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Again the difference. The difference is though that Jalen Brunson
won two national championships.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Before he got that's the case. If that's the case,
and I knew that's where you go, then why wouldn't
he go in the summer league to dominate them.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Because there's a different sport, it's a different level.
Speaker 6 (29:52):
Nicola Jokic, Nicola Jokic didn't ever double figures in summer league.
And I'm not comparing Brownie James to those guys.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I understand the I understand what you're saying. Again, there's
there's a difference, okay. And and Jalen Brunston is the
hardest one, right. He went in the second round because
he didn't have the size attributes, he didn't jump up
right charts athletically right, and he just kept getting and
but but, but Jalen Brunson has been this guy from
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high school until college, until the pros. He's been the
exact same guy. He's doesn't go by people, and yet
he scores. He shouldn't be able to get a shot off,
and yet he does the things he's doing now. He's
been able to do at that level every level on
the way up. And what I'm saying about Bronnie is
Bronnie being a guy who plays away from the ball,
who's a nice defender, who can catch and shoot, who
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can occasionally make an athletic play go into the basket
and just kind of stays out of the way and
stays out of the fray. That's who he's been at
every level. And are your your expectations of him are
to completely change into being something that he has never
been to this point, and that that's really really hard.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Even though he he's young.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He played basketball a long time, and like he's he's
never been dominant in any form or fashion in the
last two years that I've seen him when he should
have a McDonald's Americans should dominate a high school game.
There was never a high school game that he dominated.
And there was definitely never a college game that he dominated.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
So question, like, so everybody everybody that's in college, right,
or everybody that was in the draft this year, do
you think they dominated?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, it was a bad draft. No.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But but again, but many of that, many of them
have other elements that check boxes, right. Franz Wagner is
a perfect example. He won a great college player at
all at Michigan. Now I don't know if he's worth
what they paid him. Again, the difference is Franz Wagner's
six foot ten, and you know, and and there were
a lot of things there that you could point to
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that eventually those things will work. Whereas with Brownie, again,
my point is that he is He's always going to
be small. He ain't grown anymore, for sure, that's true.
He's though he jumps well, he's not really laterally athletic.
Now you can fix some of that, some of that
with time, and the other part to it, and I
think you can attest to it is there does come
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a point where you get beaten down by the expectations.
And look, a lot of these expectations, they're not from
us in the media. We didn't force his dad to
tweet out that he's better than half the guys in
the NBA.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
His dad did that.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
His dad did that, okay, and that that's what kind
of caused this, and he didn't. I don't know why
Jonathan Gravoni ranked him as the tenth best prospect.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No one had him there.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
That that hype is going and the fact that he
hasn't played well has to wear on him. And at
some point your confidence waivers, and if you lose your confidence,
it's really hard to get back.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Listen, dog. I tell people all the time, I think
the most difficult thing to carry over from college to
the pros is your confidence. There's nothing more difficult. When
I was at Bowling Green State University before I got drafted,
I was top ten in the country and scoring in
a cis All it takes is getting and putting the
wrong situations, in a situation where you know you and
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the coach don't see II or coach doesn't have the
confidence in you that Jim lairer Nega had in me.
You know now, that really messes with your mental Coach
tell used to tell me all the time, this game
is eighty percent mental and twenty percent physical. All these
guys have the mental tools, I mean the physical tools
to be successful. What sets you apart is your mental fortitude.
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And right now there's not a player in this draft
that is getting more criticism, that is getting more attention
than Bronnie James. I went to Vegas for my daughter's
volleyball Nationals. A week ago. We went down the baggage claim.
On baggage claim, there was a giant time about the
Las Vegas Summer League. Bronnie James was front and center.
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Bronnie James was front center. The number fifty five overall
pick was front and center, with Alex Star on one
side and Jalen Brunson and Victor women Yama off in
the background. Bronnie James with front and center.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Now, there's an incredible.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Amount of pressure that comes along with this that again,
it will fool with your mental because if the number
fifty four overall pick, or the number fifty three overall pick,
or the number fifty two overall pick they had a
bad game, or shoot an airborne in the game, nobody cares.
But when Bronni does it, it goes viral. Everything that
this young man does, good and bad, and a lot
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of it's been bad, it's gonna go viral. And you
can't tell me, being at that age, being nineteen years old,
that this doesn't screw with a confidence in your mental.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And Bob Knight was the mental is the physical.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
As for as to one, so's your there's your eighty
twenty as well. He agreed with with Kochel, Hey, Tony,
you're the beast man.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
How'd your daughter do? Did they win?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
No one of their They ended up twelve in the country.
One of their best hitters got hurt from the second day.
Their best hitter got hurt in the second day and
they can never recover.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Man, I've heard, I've heard there's more ex hooper, volleyball,
volleyball girl.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Oh my god, at this tournament ever. I see everybody
at these tournaments, guys I played against, guys I played with. Like,
it's awesome. It's like an NBA reunion.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I've heard my boy Miles Simon's out there. He was like, dude,
Richard Jefferson, all these sorry name and names is like,
that's like an NBA All Star game. It's amazing. Tell
you're the best man. Thanks, thanks for joining us. I
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The Press.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Moncey would have got We're gonna start with Davante Adams here, Doug.
You know, there's been rumors that maybe he wants to
leave Las Vegas. Yesterday his agents did come out and
say that there was absolutely no merit to those rumors.
No trade, No trade talks have happened with the Raiders. Well,
Davante Adams has finally spoken himself, talking to Shannon Sharp
(37:18):
on his podcast, I.
Speaker 11 (37:20):
Answered like this, if I'm be reunited with anybody, it
would be Aaron but or be you know, relocated and
be anywhere. It would be with Air. But that's that's
not really my you know, it's a lot of that
stuff going on last year in the media and them asking,
you know, what are you gonna do about this? Are
you are you thinking about going here? And they talk
about whatever without me even being involved in it, and
(37:42):
it ended up getting all the way to the point
where it got in the locker room and people was
thinking that it was you know, I was going to
happen force and I'm like, y'all just don't understand, man.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
So what do you make of that? Doug?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I just I made it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
He didn't want to play with Jimmy Garoppolo, he didn't
want to play for Copikana.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That's it. Jimmy Grappolis thinks that's it.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (38:04):
On Twitter, I just saw a video of a reporter
from Fox six I think out of like Milwaukee or
maybe Green Bay, Lily Zou And it's a quick video
ten seconds. It's nothing to play, but they're asking Jordan
Love at a football camp yesterday how our extension talks going,
and a PR person stops him from answering and says
(38:27):
news to come, and Jordan Love smiles and just says
news to come.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, they're getting a deal done.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I haven't like pressed. I just met Brian Goodekunst
a couple of weeks ago. We changed texts about something else.
I mean, but I mean he made it seem like
I didn't ask him straight up, but he made it
seem like Jordan's mare quarterback for a long time. So
I mean that's that's not breaking the news.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, no, yeah, you know, they just thought it was
gonna happen. I think right before training cap okay, quickly here.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Gues Monday, Yes, probably announced that's the kind of thing
that's you announced first day camp and then you.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Just become right, very very right quickly.
Speaker 8 (39:06):
Scottie Shuffler outright favorite to win the Open, which starts tomorrow.
He's been the outright favorite in this entire calendar year,
all four majors, the first guy to do that since
Tiger Woods did it back in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
What a year Scotty Shuffler has had.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
He's amazing, And it's what's crazy is we like never
really enter him into the like all time great golfer,
no discussions, and we need to start having.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
You know, we're getting close to being able to do that.
Speaker 8 (39:33):
Yeah, and that's the press.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
That you get out there and pressed.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That was the press.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
See.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I love that with Tone Antonio Daniels. We have a
lot of similar friends and like that's how that's how sports.
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Is supposed to work out.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You argue and then you're like, yeah, all right, talk
you said, but later that's real conversation, not the TV
fake stuff where you take a side and you don't
really believe in it. Check out the podcast. I think
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