August 1, 2024 • 44 mins
On a Thursday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug weighs in on the controversy from the women's boxing event at the Paris Olympics where a woman quite a boxing match against a opponent who had previously failed a gender test.
Doug welcomes FSR NFL Insider Adam Caplan to talk about Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert and all of the headlines around the NFL this week.
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I don't know how to say this other than the
b blunt, but we saw this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We discussed this at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We knew it was going to be an issue, and
sure enough, it's become an issue by now. I'm guessing,
like my show is not the is not the first
show of the day, right, so I understand that other
people have their shows, but I think we'd be remiss
if we didn't start with the transgender boxer beating the
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biological female boxer into in basically into submission in forty
three seconds. Forty three seconds. And I think anybody who,
anybody who who watched it and saw when the young
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woman from Italy took off her her head gear and
then the young a guy who was a biological man
and had a sex change changed to a woman when
she took off her head gear. You're like, Okay, so
I guess maybe I'm maybe I'm assuming too much, but
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here's what happened, okay. Amman Khalif of Algeria won her
opening boxing mount opening boxing bout on Thursday, when Angelina
Karini of Italy quit after just forty six seconds. Khalif
was disqualified from the twenty twenty three World Championships after
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feeling an unspecified gender eligibility test, and her presence at
the Paris Olympics has become a divisive issues. Kaarini and
Khalif exchanged only a few punches before Karini walked away
and abandoned the bout, and extremely unusual occurrents in Olympic boxing. Karini,
whose headgear apparently become dislodged at least once before she quit,
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didn't shake Khalif's hands before the decision was announced. She
cried in the ring and was on her knees. Karini
told her coach that her nose hurt too much for
her to continue. Renzini urged her to try and make
it to the end of the first round. That's Renzini's
her coach, so they could talk further. But Karini raised
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her hand again after taking just one more punch from
Khalif and asked and asked once more, to abandon a fight.
She's too strong. Renzini recalled Karini, telling him I entered
the ring to fight. Karini said in Italian. I didn't
give up, but a punch hurt too much, so I
said enough, I go out with my.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Head held high.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Look, I'll be honest with you. Part of it is
she was bad right like I got, you get punched.
I understand there's a bigger discussion at play here that
you have somebody born biologically a man punching somebody's biologically
a woman, and anywhere else in the world that would
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be a mismatch, and you wouldn't allow it to happen,
especially in the Olympic sanction boxing pot match. On the
other hand, you break your nose as a fighter with
one punch. And if you saw she left her she
left her face wide open several times. She was not
good in terms of the technical aspects of boxing, and yeah,
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she got hit a couple of times since she quit.
The bigger discussion is why what are we doing? What
are we what are we doing? And I understand that
when I say this, you'll have immediately go well. Gottlieb
was a card carrying Republican. I've told you that I
am a radical centrist, and yesterday, yesterday in the States,
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I mean, I can't they talk about fumbling the bag.
That's the kids say, fumbling the bag. Donald Trump fumbled
the bag about as badly as you can fumble the bag.
I don't know if it cost him the election, but
it sure as hell made it really interesting. Like you
go back a couple weeks ago when some idiot takes
a shot at him, combined with the fact that Biden
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literally is asleep at the wheel, and this thing is
a rap, right, it's a rap. He's a convicted felon,
a who I mean, his whole approach to January seventh
is just ridiculous. I don't understand how he's still around
in the political world.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't, but if you go back two three weeks ago,
he could.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They were if we were in just run out the
clock mode. And now all of a sudden we got
ourselves a ball game. But somehow we've wrapped ourselves in
our sides politically. Where I look they the easy part
is no, I'm not talking about October seven. January s
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excuse me, January sixth.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was duck in October. I mean, this one's become
like super political and it doesn't need to be.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It just doesn't. Like Again, I'm not going to control
people's you know, if you want your if you want
your sexual orientation, or even your sex once you become
an adult, that's out of my control.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't believe in controlling somebody that way.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's the same reason, by the way, I believe every
woman should be able to choose. I'm not going to
control a woman's body when a woman does potential offspring.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's not my world.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Again, I try to align myself with my own thoughts
and feelings. But how have we gotten to a place
so where somebody who's born biologically man, goes through puberty,
has a sex change that can compete against a woman,
like we all know that's not fair, right. And it
started kind of jokingly as like jo wanna man, right,
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And now it's become something it's again, and it's one
thing in there's lots of other sports where you could
maybe let it go. You can't in boxing. And I
distinctly remember Jase too. I don't remember the dates I
know we've done. I've done this show for over fifteen
years to creep it up on twenty years at this
time slot. But I know it was a show with
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you when the US Olympic Committee announced that they would
allow transgender males who again there was a certain time
period which they had to have hormone therapy or whatever,
and the numbers and we said, what are they doing?
This is going to be a disaster in boxing, and
sure enough yesterday was. So I don't know where we
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go from here. I just don't. I don't know anybody
who thinks it's fair. I don't know anybody who thinks
it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And I understand that you have all you have people
who are transgender or sitting there going like you know,
our rights have been violated fears.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I get it. I understand.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's not something it's not a lifestyle or a life
change that I would ever make or somebody around me
i'd ever I would necessarily support. But again, I haven't
been put in that position where it's my son, it's
my daughter, it's my friends.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know it had I had two kid.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My kids were in a school and there was a
kid who had a sex change.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Again, and I know.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
There's different words for it to whatever. I'm not trying
to be offensive. I'm not a neanderthal. It's just gender
reassignment surgery is a new way, which we say it again,
it is the same as a sex change, Okay, And
I just I don't understand. I don't understand how this happens.
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And I get that we're trying to say like, hey, look,
you know you want to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Supports you as a woman. Okay, Hey, there's just this
one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You can't compete in high level sports against biological women.
What about seeing Jase two, like, how is this how
we got into a place where this was allowed in
the Olympics when we saw it happening with swimming, and
then yeah, let's do a combat sport where and again
I don't know if it didn't appear the Italian boxer,
she not appeared to be very good. She never guard up,
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she had hit once in the nose, and he may
have been or she may have been too strong for
her All that may be true. But again, how do
we get to this point where we allowed this the Olympics?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, technically speaking, as I've read, the International Boxing Association
has always made these rulings when it comes to international
boxing events. This year the Olympics stop using the IBA
to govern their athletes, and the new body that they
chose to test the athletes have a more lenient testing
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for gender. And he passed the test for the Olympics
when she did not for the other international event a
year ago. According to this that the test that she
failed diagnosed an x Y chromosome. That's a DNA thing, right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This one was probably testing her hormones, which you can
adjust with hormone therapy, but doesn't start. It doesn't change
the fact that you developed physically as a man until
a time of genery assignment surgery.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Correct, And I think the good thing about today is
is that you see the reaction on social media, and
I think you're right. It's like ninety nine percent. What
are we doing? The problem with this issue over the
last few years is it's been a fringe right issue
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covered by fringe right media outlets, and anything that the
fringe right covers nowadays is immediately dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
And you're racist, you're homophobic at the very least. And
I looked us up this morning. Three point one billion
people watch the Olympics three years ago. That doesn't make
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a lot of sense to me. It sounds like a lot,
But say three point one billion people have eyes on
what just happened. I think this pushes it into the mainstream.
It gets enough people pissed off, and the rules will
start to change. At the very least, allowing this to
get to the Olympic level will expose it and put
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it a magnifying glass on this and things will change.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I Sam, do you have any counter to it?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like again, I've always been a fairly liberal thinker, Okay,
fairly liberal thinker, and I know what happens is, you know,
anytime I've said anything that is remotely anti far right,
I'm super liberal. Anytime I say any anti far left.
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I'm super conservative. I'm Pat Robertson. I am neither.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I make my own decisions based on my own beliefs,
my own faith, my own understanding of what I think
is right, what I think is wrong right. We'll get
back to that in a second. I think we have
some big breaking news. Here's Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Doug Big if you're a Chargers fan, because the Chargers
have announced that quarterback Justin Herbert will be in a
walking boot at least for the next couple of weeks
after he was diagnosed with a foot injury and injury
to the planter fascia in his right foot. Now, the
team did say in their statement that he will have
a graduated return to play schedule from that planter fascia injury.
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The expectation is that he'll be ready for the start
of the regular season. But not great news for the
Chargers is Justin Herbert's going to be out of action
for the next couple of weeks with that right foot injury.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So it's it's basically plantar fasciatas what it sounds like. Yes, okay,
so here's my understanding of plantar fasciatus that if it tears.
If it tears, it's actually a good thing because then
they fix it and then you come back here. Because
whereas it doesn't tear, it psych paneto fasciatus, it's just
tedious and you take time off, but it's still going
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to bother you all season long.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
We gotta ask go ahead of Yeah, no, I was
gonna say it almost sounds like a meniscus injury in
a little bit where they're like, hey, if you remove it,
you can get back sooner. The long term, it's not
going to be great, but maybe that's the best course
of action to play. But maybe I don't know, Maybe
they're not parallels.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But no, it's not a bad one. It's not a
bad one. You know the answer to this, Jay steuw Right,
because they're the chargers, Right, that just feels like it
because they're the chargers.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, you've been you've been on this for a while now.
There's a some kind of a curse.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it has to be. It has to be.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's the only thing like did is there new practice
facility which say just opened spectacular? Is that on like
an Indian burial ground? What did they What did they do?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's the question? What did they? Would they do?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
All right, well, listen, we'll we'll have this on social
media at Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just what would you do? Again? The solution is pretty
easy to me. If you were born a man.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Sorry, at this level of sports, you can't compete against women.
I can recognize you as a woman, I can call
you by your your new name, I can.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Treat you as a woman.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
With one exception, we can't have you compete against biologically
born women in an international in the greatest international sporting
event in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like, that's not an unreasonable thing, is it?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No, it isn't. And and one other note, Doug, this
is all kind of in the essence of inclusion, which
you know, an election year, we're hearing a lot about
equity and inclusion. I get it. I'm a I'm a
parent of social of special needs. I'm all for equity
and inclusion in the youth sports and at schools. But
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when you are talking about livelihoods on the line, whether
it be just compensation, marketing, Olympic games, then men should
not be able to compete with women. And then the
next level is because if you're just swimming against women,
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you don't have the chance of actually killing them with
your fist. Yeah, so the boxing, the fighting element of
this makes it more reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't I just don't understand. And I am I'm
with you, I'm all about.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We need to look at things differently than we all have.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But they got to be reasonable, right, And like we've
we've crossed over from the reasonable discussions about transgender to
the unreasonable ones, which is having a someone born biologically
a male go through puberty fighting against a woman who's
born biologically a woman. I just I don't mind if
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you have a transgender division, but you can't compete against
the female sex.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
When you're born a male.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't think that's unreasonable and I don't think that's
too And by the way, the Olympics are exclusive. We
want this inclusivity, but the truth is they are exclusive.
Not everybody gets to go to the Olympics, not everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
From America does.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We have plenty of fighters that are as good or
close to as good as the ones who qualify. We
don't because there's some exclusivity to it. That has to
be exclusivity in this In this case, this is the.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Adam Kaplan
is our Fox NFL in signer. He joins us now
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spent the day at Ravens Camp. Okay, so give me
your sense Ravens who Lamar Jackson's been dealing with some
strange illness that has kept him out. Grant, it's very
early on, but I mean, what's his status.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
He's fine now, he's been Backdoug in the last couple days.
But I will tell you about Lamar and illnesses. This
is like three years now that he had a COVID
issue at one point, but where he just doesn't feel
right and he's left left. You know, he goes home
from practice and not feeling well. So he's good. I
mean now, he did return last week briefly, then left
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again and now he's been back flexing for good hopefully.
I think there is at least three days that he's
practiced in a row. So I'll tell you what if
someone said to to me from the Ravens today, we
would just kind of catch you up. And this is
definitely a story because the league has not really said
anything like this. You're talking about a power runner and
dark henry team that wants to run the ball anyway
and one of the best duel for a quarterbacks in
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the NFL history. As this person said, I agree how
our team's going to defend them. I'm so looking forward
to seeing what that's going to look like early on
the season.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, it's me interesting. Does he have sickle cell or
sickle cell trade? I mean, I probably that's protected by hip.
I mean, that's one possible explanation for why some of
these illnesses affect him more than they would affect other guys.
Obviously it's a genetically inherited trade. And just I just
wonder because again, I mean, he is the picture of
health outside of that, and yeah, this was a really
elongated illness.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, So last year it was, Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
We want to show you that Lamar Jackson can really
throw the football, and we're going to evolve our pass game.
This year it's now we're going to get back to
just ground and pound and run the football. What do
you think the offense comes together and looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I think it's to be phenomenal. It's gonna be dug
more of a twelve personal offense. What that means is
two tight ends, two receivers, and a running back and
Obviosite the quarterback. So you're not going to see a
lot of eleven personnel, which is three receivers and one
back in one ted end. And it's, by the way,
it's mostly because of Isaiah Likely the ted end for
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Coastal Carolina from a couple of years ago, who filled
in really well for Mark Andrews, who's back from his injury,
and those two it's the best ted end doing with
the national football they're phenomenal together. Andrews has been a
pro more many times and he's phenomenal, and Likely he's great.
He's a little bit smaller than Andrews, but both as
a tannem and Todd Muck and the offense coordinating their
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second year together. This thing. We'll make our picks for
the season at the end of August. But and you
always learn stuff when you're with a club, and you're
not always going to be right with what you see.
But offensively they're gonna they should they have a chance
to be phenomenal. But defensively that I do want to
mention Zach l Or. This is his first year's defensive coordinator.
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He's the youngest coordinator offense, defensive special teams in the
National FOOTBA League. He's a former linebacker for them whose
career got cutch rip due to injury. Doug, it's thirty
one years old.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wow, thirty one years old.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, like, listen, the fact that he's played in he
knows it obviously put some aheat of it. Okay, now,
how many times have you seen the Eagles work out?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Four times? I'll see them tonight, like in the Financial
Stadium and I fly out to LA to see five teams.
I think over the weekend. But if Philly looks better,
I'll say this last year was a disaster. You and
I've talked about on the FSR ten and one, then
out of the final seven, embarrassed in the playoffs. The
big thing for them, and I'm I can just tell
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there's something different, and it's because they have a much
veteran more of a veteran staff to veteran coordinators offensive
defense that's going to help, and more of a veteran
group of assistant coaches. They brought too many coaches from
college football last season and it showed.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, well they also they just didn't have that. There
was something missing between the quarterback and the play calling.
It didn't the year before there was such a rhythm
to it. There wasn't rhythm to it. How they change that?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
All right? So Kellen Moore and Syrianne is going to
have to give up his scheme, as I understand, it
was pretty much gonna have to change, and he did.
Kellen Moore, who, by the way, interviewed for the same
head coaching job that Nick Sirianna got three years ago,
and Eagles hired Nick and Kellen would move on back
to Dallas and then over to the Chargers last season.
But they wanted the Eagles are a team. They're completely
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different organizationally football wise from the Ravens. They want to
throw the football. Yes, they signed Sakwain Barkley. They love Barkley,
who played their same division. But they still want to
be a versatile team and it's just going to look different.
I mean, it really is just being there at training camp,
but it's not what I'm used to. When I watch
the Eagles, they usually have a good fact, but a
lead back or a great back like Barclay than we
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know about his injury history. But they also have a
very good receiver corps with to the best of the
National FOOTBA League with Smith and I'll see a j Brown,
Dallas Goddard who didn't have a great season last season.
But I think it's more because Hurts regressed. You were
talking about whatever their offense. I think what happened there
Doug to checking into it. It was more that the
league said, Okay, we're not going to let Jail Hurts
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beat us with his legs anymore. That's not going to happen.
And the teams dropped that fist defender in the box.
They took away at a lot of those designed runs,
and they made Jalen the passered like it was two
years ago and it just didn't happen. Just kind of
figure them out and Keellamore is more of a spread
off asive guy, and I'm looking forward to seeing what
this looks like. But they're going to be better, but
they're not going to be nearly as good as the
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twenty two team, which is one of the best teams
I've seen Negals put out in the years.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Stet Gotlab Show here on Fox Sports Radio I'm sure
you've heard the news of the day, which is justin
Herbert Planner fashion. I just know you're going out to
California to see the Chargers. I'm guessing the Rams and
and of course the Cowboys practice practice there as well.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What are your what are your thoughts on the Chargers one?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, you know you're devoid of the star talent at
outside the numbers. Uh, you talked about the Ravens' is
basically the old Greg Roman Ravens. You got it, Bill's
Niners when he was at the Hardbaughs. Scheme has all
come together in year one.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's so funny because talk of the Ravens. They asked
me where I was going. They said, oh, you're gonna
see Greg. Well, we know they're gonna be run on
the football course. I mean, that's as one GM told me,
the most sophisticated run game that the team that I've
talked to a couple of months ago is the Charger
on their schedule. He said, they're so tough, they're so
unorthodox the ways they scheme it. They're gonna be run based.
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You're right, Uh, Quinn Johnson will start a receiver. It
was there from the first round by a different regime
with the Chargers and Lad mcconzie, who I got to
tell you was incredible to Singer Bowl by far the
best five yards getting off the line that I saw
at this past senior boy his phenomenally is a second
round pick out of out of tourdor is terrific. And look,
but the thing for them is they're they're they're transitioning.
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The defense is going to look different, their offense office
is gonna be run based. And I'll say this about
Jim Harball. He wins everywhere he goes. That's why the
oddsmakers are It seems like everyone's betten that over an
eight and a half. I think that's a little strong
thinking they're going to be a winning team in the
first year. I think roster's good enough. But we know
what's coming. You and I agree it's going to be
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run based.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You know, I'm fascinated by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, I get that you haven't had a quarterback
since Dan Reno that you really felt good about. But
we've seen that ceiling with Tua the past couple of years,
and you know he has been oft injured. So this
feels like the last year in which you're going to
be able to surround him with this all star cast
of talented players. What's the league saying about the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Look, everyone's thought to his deal would get done. They
knew he was going to get fifty five million a year.
He didn't get too far from it. But the league
does this. This is what teams have told me about
to when they go up against him. If he gets
a clean look on that first read, that ball's coming
out and he looks great. If you make him think
if he holds onto the ball, he's going to get hit.
And it doesn't matter how much ball he puts onto
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his frame. He struggles the longer he has the ball
in the football. That's the number show. That's with the
tape shows now there are twelve personal team. They don't
spread the ball out. They will run the football, There's
no question about it. Mike McDaniel comes from that Shanahan tree.
They're thick and balancer thinking run first. And by the way,
I will be with the Dolphins when they hosted Falcons
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and Falcons on Tuesday Wednesday and Miami. I look forward
to that. But the Dolphins will be good and that division,
by the way, with Aaron Rodgers back is going to
be very, very competitive other than the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There is because Russell Wilson missed the first couple of
practice practice, there are people like, oh, well, Justin Field's
take that job. And then we've seen some interceptions, we've
seen some of the flaws of Justin Fields. I don't
think for one second Justin Fields really has a legit
chance in the first five six games to ever play.
There's a reason he was out there on the market
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and there wasn't much giving up to get him. But
what are you hearing in regards to Pittsburgh in their
quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So talking to someone there with his Steelers about the
quarterback sook, it's very clearly Russell Wilson they're expecting to start.
I know Tomlin, Mike Tomlin kind of left it there
open just a smidge after saying in the off season
there's really gonna be no competition. Well, it's because Wilson
has been hurt and now he's limited and Fields had
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to her for good days. But you're right, Jessic Field
is very, very gifted, but he's never played consistent football.
It's bailing the pocket it's hanging in there. He's got
all the town in the world, Doug, but he's never
been a consistent quarterback. And here's the thing, Arthur Smith.
They're going to run the heck out of the football.
You know it's coming. That's why he got the job
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of other possibilities. That's what Mike Tomlin wants. By the way,
that's organization that comes from the Rooney family talking to people.
With the Steelers. They want to run the football first,
and they're going to get it. They've got a great tandem.
See the Steelers, Doug. To finish the steel Stock off.
Their feeling was this, they got bad quarterback play last
year and they were still a playoff team. I know
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they haven't won a playoff game since seventeen under Mike Tomlin.
But their feeling is if they get a little bit
better play with Russell Wilson and not the variants they
got with Kenny Pickett Mitch Trubisky, but they can go
farther and that's what's coming. Folks. You're a Steeler fans,
smash bout football.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The Niners are sitting there and this is the last
year of Brock Perdy making no money and there's been
a bunch of picks in the preseason, and he's like, look,
now's the time to take chances and try some things.
We have what we saw that last year when they
were down the Debo, when they were down in NYUK,
when they were down in Trent Williams. They're down when
they star players are Christian Mccafjeffrey. That's when he struggled,
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what's their level of confidence in their quarterback being able
to have the same type of year next this year
that he had last year.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Now, I would say this, there were times when Deebo
Samuel by the way, and it was really what they'd
noticed in the numbers. When Deebo doesn't play, they're a
different team because all he does catching and running it.
And then, by the way, you have the brandon I situation.
So they still think will be with them this season.
They're still trying to figureut a way to make it
happy and then be reasonable with a contract. But now
they listen. Kyle Shanahan is a balanced guy. He talks
(28:33):
about his openers, they have to have a certain amount
of runs in the first half. He doesn't look at
it analytically like other teams do, and they're going to
run the football, they're gonna have balance, and they're not
asking pretty to more thirty three times a game if
everybody's healthy. That's, by the way, one of the best
defense of the National Football League. They play to their
defense and running game. Doug, it's not going to change.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Awesome stuff as always, that's Adam Kaplan. Of course you
can check out his Inside the Birds podcast as well,
and of course he'll be at uh He's been in Philly.
Phillis Camp Ravens. Camp would be out on his West
Coast swing coming up as well. He is our Fox
Sports Radio NFL insider Cap. You're the best man, Thanks
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The way tire buying should be. Yesterday, Team USA look
good against South Sudan. They changed up the lineup. They
did seemed that. You know, I don't care what Steve
(30:26):
Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine that
was originally a plan.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I can be wrong, but you go from not playing
to starting. That seems a lot. Did I think he play? Yes,
I think that was all the complaining, like fine, will
start him.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
He didn't play particularly well.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know, there's a world there where people start to
understand what makes you a great NBA player, does not
necessarily make do a great international player just doesn't, and
how you fit with the group. But the matchups had
them playing smaller for a good portion of time, and
then when South Sudan went small, they threw the ball
inside the BAM and to Anthony Davis, and they for
(31:06):
the most part kept kept South Sudan out twenty points away.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
They didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I told everybody knew like I don't bet, but that's
spread twenty nine seemed too high. Here was Steve Kerr's
explanation for Embiid's oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Steve Kerr said that.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
He didn't play against South Sudan because the USA won
a better match up with their team speed and Kerr
is going to start Lebron, Steph Curry, Devin Booker, drew
Holiday and embid against Puerto Rico. I remember Jason Tatum
after yesterday's game said, hey, this has definitely been a
humbling experience, right. He said that not about playing and
(31:48):
scoring four points against South Sudan, but not playing at
all against Serbia. He said, quote, win a championship, new
contract cover of two K, and then you sit the
whole game cover of Sports showy straits. So it is
definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you right now, like
how it reads to me. I'm gonna sit here as
a coach, and I'll tell you Jason Tatum seems like
a colossal pain.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In the ass.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
When Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement.
All he said as Jalen Brown's teammate, and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA Finals was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in. And now instead
of saying, hey, I don't care if I play a
minute before I play the whole game, I just want
to win, He's like, yeah, you know, I got all
this stuff was humbling.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's not humbling.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You have not been humbled, because then you read off
some sort of resume like any of us give a crap, right,
tell me if this sounds humbled to you. Win a championship,
new cover of a new contract, cover of two k
NBA two K cover of Sports Illustrated. It was definitely
a humbling experience. That's not humbling. You have not been humbled,
(33:00):
not at all. And oh yeah, by the way, Jason Tatum,
NBA Finals, how'd that work out for you?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
You know? Twenty one? A game was fine?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Seven rebounds, The game was fine, but didn't shoot a
great percentage, didn't play great And oh yeah, by.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The way, this is not the NBA, right, not the NBA.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
John Morant would be a terrible, terrible pick to beyond
USA Basketball. Jamran is a dynamic player, went healthy, dynamic.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So I just.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I do think that this is part of Kerr's plan, right,
is completely rotate based upon team.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Sometimes you don't play guys.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
The issue is which guys get it, which guys don't,
and this is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look,
Steph Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a
ton and the logic behind it is he's not. This
is a different game. It's way more physical, harder for
him to get a shot off, and much harder for
him to guard.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yes, Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Hey, Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
There's a question the niece an answer, and the answer
is if only there was someone with the authority and
the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That it was not that?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's not how questions asked. If you say, don't you
think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Okay, well let me hold on?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
What should I say?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
How?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
How did this get to the point where Steve kerr
Is says after game one that he felt like an
idiot for not playing. Justent Tatum, like, why hasn't all
of this been communicated to each player? It was Tatum,
you're not going to play game one? And why we're
not going to play game two?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It was go back to is go back to the
quote game one he said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely
did the I'm not a surprise to Jason. Ted wasn't
surprised at you all embiid last night?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Then why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut. I
play the whole cut because I think what he's saying
is like, hey, you feel like an idiot not playing
the guy, but you had a plan and the plan
clearly worked. You know, because if you don't know anything
about actual working forty minutes, working in everybody the game plan,
(35:45):
you're like, hey, we're not going to play Jason tam
I'd be like, I take a listen, because in out
of context, it sounds like he's questioned himself.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to, but that'll change.
You know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro.
He's you know, first team All NBA three years in
(36:16):
a row. I felt like an idiot not playing him.
But in a forty minute game, you can't play more
than ten, you really can't. And you know, so I
just I think he's he's an amazing guy, great player
and handled it beautifully, and you know he'll be back
out their next game.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, so he again, I think you're taking that as
the he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas
I think what he meant is, you know, he's first
team All NBA three years row.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm not going to play him. But so you feel
like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But the truth is like, Okay, this is the plan
we had. It ended up working, and again because Kevin
Durant was played the perfect game in the first half,
like I'm not gonna I'm going to go back to
Kevin Durant in the second half, which they.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Did well that You're right, the comment in full context
completely explains it. It's just that idiot line I think
has gotten them in trouble ever since he said it.
And people obviously if there haven't been listening to their
full quote in context or what, because they took that
and ran with it like Steve and they did like
twenty straight minutes of ranting on wait, wait about Steve
(37:22):
and he.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Took something out of context and used it. That's that's stunning.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I thought he's I thought he was a journalist right
when he told he told Dan Lebttard he's a journalist. Yes, Wow,
I just look I'm just trying to express to you
we did this. Coaching is hard, it's it's not easy,
and a good portion of coaching in the NBA is
(37:46):
massaging egos and figuring out a way to make it work.
And I mean, it's pretty obvious that he's committed to this.
I'm going to sit a guy or to a game
so I don't have to play twelve. If you play twelve,
you know every But he's unhappy. It's just not enough minutes,
Just not enough minutes. Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox
(38:06):
Sports Radio. I feel bad for Gordon Hayward, but I
will point out like he kind of raised his stink
over not playing for the Thunder in the playoffs. Now
he retires, like kind of think the Thunder knew he
was done. It's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Are any of you guys going to watch the Hall
of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I mean, yeah, I just like seeing the graphics, like
seeing the uniforms. Football is back everything, but the football,
you know, the product is Yeah, just no, I think
it's a good I live by a sports calendar, guys,
and I think we all do. And this is a
this is it's not only August first where we change
the calendar on our wall.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
It's already believe it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is basically.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Here, Dan, it's is it not? The starting prep of
beginning of kolonoscopy? Is what I would say?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Is?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Uh is the is Hall of Fame game? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Wait what?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
About a colonosco.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, I had a kolonoscopy last week. Yeah, no, that's
that's that's all right, fine, I have no problem. Forty
five and fifty should get a kolonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You ever served time dot Fletch? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
It's back when chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been funny.
I think since Fletch.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
That was the last time he used fun maybe his
funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation and Fletch. Those are the
big three and I would argue that he was funniest
on Fletch. It was the same scene where he's talking
to the doctor and he's trying to feel him out
about one of his patients, and he's like, it's you know,
it's really sad about old Ben, and the doctor's like, ah,
(40:06):
he's dying for years. Yeah, but to go so suddenly
like that you're talking to me. It was intensive care
for over a year. Yeah, but the very end, the
very end when it died was very sudden.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Where on the metal stand would Fletch b of those
three the gold do you think?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy. Overall, the movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
No, that's way. We've already had this discussion. Christmas Vacation
is a tear down from vacation, I think, and then
the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
See I look at it this way, Okay, I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers too, really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you're into movies, right,
So much of it was a spoof on these Bond movies.
(41:04):
And how cheesy they are and how over the top
they are and whatever. It's very very funny if you
were into Bond guys at all. This is a spoof
on all the Bond stuff. And had Mike Myers Austin
Powers too. Now all of a sudden they had to
find something funny when that whole joke was kind of
overplayed in Austin Powers one. And I thought Austin Powers
(41:24):
two was really really funny. Vacation was the classic movie
about the family vacation, right. It was like, ah, everybody's
done the family vacation, the family road trip. We're going
out to California. We're gonna go to Wally World, right,
come hell or high water. And that's the kind of
the old school eighties vacation. Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought,
(41:47):
you know, you eliminated that they'd actually go anywhere, but
you'd also had the uniqueness of family coming over the house,
the Christmas bonus and all that other stuff, and you know,
the family members you can't wait to have leave, and
this ridiculous thing we do where when any family member
is welcome, no matter how tough they are, to just
have around.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
But that's what we do is people. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think Christmas Vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I think Christmas vacation is better than vacation.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine. I think
that was the.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Last post Fletcher for regular vacation is pre Fletch. I
believe I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble
Like he made some other decent films.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
That was like early and eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Maria,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports calendar?
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Say I had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I
didn't set up all but we should go to break here. Yeah, good,
good idea.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
We'll clean that up and edit. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Dan, I do agree with you, and it will be
on wherever I am today.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And it's just it is good.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
It does feel because because I think most people have
done the summer thing, we're yeah, I'm good with summer.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I really love Faldy Camera because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Plus even for kids being back in school, you got
football games on Friday nights or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever, right, new.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Classes, new schools, it's still fresh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It's not once you get to winter, it's not to drudgery,
and then sports it becomes peak. I mean, think about
this August we still have the the end Olympic Games,
the kickoff of a football season, college football which has
a true playoff, and of course you'll have basketball, and
then you get you know October baseball awesome. So I'm
with you on the sports calendar. I understand. It's just
(44:04):
it's a weird thing that we all will look e
LeWitt and then go like I didn't know anybody playing.
I will feel if I watch in the second half,
I'll feel exactly like I feel watching the Grammys. You guys,
ever watching the Grammys and you're like, I've never heard
of any of these people.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, I don't know who they are.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Ever heard this album?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids, so
I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi concerts
this summer. Like I I'll still take my daughters to
cool country concerts, right, Like I still have, by at
least by proxy, a little bit of swag to me.
But when I watch the Grammys, I feel like the
biggest dork ever because I.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Don't know anybody.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
And then it's the same thing with the preseason football,
like I'm like, ooh ooh wait, he played in the
Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Right, That's about all I know.
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I don't know how to say this other than the
b blunt, but we saw this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We discussed this at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We knew it was going to be an issue, and
sure enough, it's become an issue by now. I'm guessing,
like my show is not the is not the first
show of the day, right, so I understand that other
people have their shows, but I think we'd be remiss
if we didn't start with the transgender boxer beating the
(01:24):
biological female boxer into in basically into submission in forty
three seconds. Forty three seconds. And I think anybody who,
anybody who who watched it and saw when the young
(01:46):
woman from Italy took off her her head gear and
then the young a guy who was a biological man
and had a sex change changed to a woman when
she took off her head gear. You're like, Okay, so
I guess maybe I'm maybe I'm assuming too much, but
(02:10):
here's what happened, okay. Amman Khalif of Algeria won her
opening boxing mount opening boxing bout on Thursday, when Angelina
Karini of Italy quit after just forty six seconds. Khalif
was disqualified from the twenty twenty three World Championships after
(02:30):
feeling an unspecified gender eligibility test, and her presence at
the Paris Olympics has become a divisive issues. Kaarini and
Khalif exchanged only a few punches before Karini walked away
and abandoned the bout, and extremely unusual occurrents in Olympic boxing. Karini,
whose headgear apparently become dislodged at least once before she quit,
(02:53):
didn't shake Khalif's hands before the decision was announced. She
cried in the ring and was on her knees. Karini
told her coach that her nose hurt too much for
her to continue. Renzini urged her to try and make
it to the end of the first round. That's Renzini's
her coach, so they could talk further. But Karini raised
(03:13):
her hand again after taking just one more punch from
Khalif and asked and asked once more, to abandon a fight.
She's too strong. Renzini recalled Karini, telling him I entered
the ring to fight. Karini said in Italian. I didn't
give up, but a punch hurt too much, so I
said enough, I go out with my.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Head held high.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Look, I'll be honest with you. Part of it is
she was bad right like I got, you get punched.
I understand there's a bigger discussion at play here that
you have somebody born biologically a man punching somebody's biologically
a woman, and anywhere else in the world that would
(03:55):
be a mismatch, and you wouldn't allow it to happen,
especially in the Olympic sanction boxing pot match. On the
other hand, you break your nose as a fighter with
one punch. And if you saw she left her she
left her face wide open several times. She was not
good in terms of the technical aspects of boxing, and yeah,
(04:16):
she got hit a couple of times since she quit.
The bigger discussion is why what are we doing? What
are we what are we doing? And I understand that
when I say this, you'll have immediately go well. Gottlieb
was a card carrying Republican. I've told you that I
am a radical centrist, and yesterday, yesterday in the States,
(04:43):
I mean, I can't they talk about fumbling the bag.
That's the kids say, fumbling the bag. Donald Trump fumbled
the bag about as badly as you can fumble the bag.
I don't know if it cost him the election, but
it sure as hell made it really interesting. Like you
go back a couple weeks ago when some idiot takes
a shot at him, combined with the fact that Biden
(05:04):
literally is asleep at the wheel, and this thing is
a rap, right, it's a rap. He's a convicted felon,
a who I mean, his whole approach to January seventh
is just ridiculous. I don't understand how he's still around
in the political world.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't, but if you go back two three weeks ago,
he could.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
They were if we were in just run out the
clock mode. And now all of a sudden we got
ourselves a ball game. But somehow we've wrapped ourselves in
our sides politically. Where I look they the easy part
is no, I'm not talking about October seven. January s
(05:53):
excuse me, January sixth.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I was duck in October. I mean, this one's become
like super political and it doesn't need to be.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It just doesn't. Like Again, I'm not going to control
people's you know, if you want your if you want
your sexual orientation, or even your sex once you become
an adult, that's out of my control.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't believe in controlling somebody that way.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's the same reason, by the way, I believe every
woman should be able to choose. I'm not going to
control a woman's body when a woman does potential offspring.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's not my world.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Again, I try to align myself with my own thoughts
and feelings. But how have we gotten to a place
so where somebody who's born biologically man, goes through puberty,
has a sex change that can compete against a woman,
like we all know that's not fair, right. And it
started kind of jokingly as like jo wanna man, right,
(07:00):
And now it's become something it's again, and it's one
thing in there's lots of other sports where you could
maybe let it go. You can't in boxing. And I
distinctly remember Jase too. I don't remember the dates I
know we've done. I've done this show for over fifteen
years to creep it up on twenty years at this
time slot. But I know it was a show with
(07:22):
you when the US Olympic Committee announced that they would
allow transgender males who again there was a certain time
period which they had to have hormone therapy or whatever,
and the numbers and we said, what are they doing?
This is going to be a disaster in boxing, and
sure enough yesterday was. So I don't know where we
(07:46):
go from here. I just don't. I don't know anybody
who thinks it's fair. I don't know anybody who thinks
it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And I understand that you have all you have people
who are transgender or sitting there going like you know,
our rights have been violated fears.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I get it. I understand.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's not something it's not a lifestyle or a life
change that I would ever make or somebody around me
i'd ever I would necessarily support. But again, I haven't
been put in that position where it's my son, it's
my daughter, it's my friends.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know it had I had two kid.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
My kids were in a school and there was a
kid who had a sex change.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Again, and I know.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
There's different words for it to whatever. I'm not trying
to be offensive. I'm not a neanderthal. It's just gender
reassignment surgery is a new way, which we say it again,
it is the same as a sex change, Okay, And
I just I don't understand. I don't understand how this happens.
(08:45):
And I get that we're trying to say like, hey, look,
you know you want to be a woman.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Supports you as a woman. Okay, Hey, there's just this
one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You can't compete in high level sports against biological women.
What about seeing Jase two, like, how is this how
we got into a place where this was allowed in
the Olympics when we saw it happening with swimming, and
then yeah, let's do a combat sport where and again
I don't know if it didn't appear the Italian boxer,
she not appeared to be very good. She never guard up,
(09:14):
she had hit once in the nose, and he may
have been or she may have been too strong for
her All that may be true. But again, how do
we get to this point where we allowed this the Olympics?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Well, technically speaking, as I've read, the International Boxing Association
has always made these rulings when it comes to international
boxing events. This year the Olympics stop using the IBA
to govern their athletes, and the new body that they
chose to test the athletes have a more lenient testing
(09:51):
for gender. And he passed the test for the Olympics
when she did not for the other international event a
year ago. According to this that the test that she
failed diagnosed an x Y chromosome. That's a DNA thing, right, So.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
This one was probably testing her hormones, which you can
adjust with hormone therapy, but doesn't start. It doesn't change
the fact that you developed physically as a man until
a time of genery assignment surgery.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Correct, And I think the good thing about today is
is that you see the reaction on social media, and
I think you're right. It's like ninety nine percent. What
are we doing? The problem with this issue over the
last few years is it's been a fringe right issue
(10:49):
covered by fringe right media outlets, and anything that the
fringe right covers nowadays is immediately dismissed as a conspiracy theory.
And you're racist, you're homophobic at the very least. And
I looked us up this morning. Three point one billion
people watch the Olympics three years ago. That doesn't make
(11:09):
a lot of sense to me. It sounds like a lot,
But say three point one billion people have eyes on
what just happened. I think this pushes it into the mainstream.
It gets enough people pissed off, and the rules will
start to change. At the very least, allowing this to
get to the Olympic level will expose it and put
(11:31):
it a magnifying glass on this and things will change.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I Sam, do you have any counter to it?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like again, I've always been a fairly liberal thinker, Okay,
fairly liberal thinker, and I know what happens is, you know,
anytime I've said anything that is remotely anti far right,
I'm super liberal. Anytime I say any anti far left.
(12:03):
I'm super conservative. I'm Pat Robertson. I am neither.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I make my own decisions based on my own beliefs,
my own faith, my own understanding of what I think
is right, what I think is wrong right. We'll get
back to that in a second. I think we have
some big breaking news. Here's Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Doug Big if you're a Chargers fan, because the Chargers
have announced that quarterback Justin Herbert will be in a
walking boot at least for the next couple of weeks
after he was diagnosed with a foot injury and injury
to the planter fascia in his right foot. Now, the
team did say in their statement that he will have
a graduated return to play schedule from that planter fascia injury.
(12:50):
The expectation is that he'll be ready for the start
of the regular season. But not great news for the
Chargers is Justin Herbert's going to be out of action
for the next couple of weeks with that right foot injury.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So it's it's basically plantar fasciatas what it sounds like. Yes, okay,
so here's my understanding of plantar fasciatus that if it tears.
If it tears, it's actually a good thing because then
they fix it and then you come back here. Because
whereas it doesn't tear, it psych paneto fasciatus, it's just
tedious and you take time off, but it's still going
(13:24):
to bother you all season long.
Speaker 6 (13:28):
We gotta ask go ahead of Yeah, no, I was
gonna say it almost sounds like a meniscus injury in
a little bit where they're like, hey, if you remove it,
you can get back sooner. The long term, it's not
going to be great, but maybe that's the best course
of action to play. But maybe I don't know, Maybe
they're not parallels.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But no, it's not a bad one. It's not a
bad one. You know the answer to this, Jay steuw Right,
because they're the chargers, Right, that just feels like it
because they're the chargers.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, you've been you've been on this for a while now.
There's a some kind of a curse.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it has to be. It has to be.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's the only thing like did is there new practice
facility which say just opened spectacular? Is that on like
an Indian burial ground? What did they What did they do?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's the question? What did they? Would they do?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
All right, well, listen, we'll we'll have this on social
media at Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Just what would you do? Again? The solution is pretty
easy to me. If you were born a man.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Sorry, at this level of sports, you can't compete against women.
I can recognize you as a woman, I can call
you by your your new name, I can.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Treat you as a woman.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
With one exception, we can't have you compete against biologically
born women in an international in the greatest international sporting
event in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like, that's not an unreasonable thing, is it?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
No, it isn't. And and one other note, Doug, this
is all kind of in the essence of inclusion, which
you know, an election year, we're hearing a lot about
equity and inclusion. I get it. I'm a I'm a
parent of social of special needs. I'm all for equity
and inclusion in the youth sports and at schools. But
(15:23):
when you are talking about livelihoods on the line, whether
it be just compensation, marketing, Olympic games, then men should
not be able to compete with women. And then the
next level is because if you're just swimming against women,
(15:43):
you don't have the chance of actually killing them with
your fist. Yeah, so the boxing, the fighting element of
this makes it more reprehensible.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I don't I just don't understand. And I am I'm
with you, I'm all about.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
That.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We need to look at things differently than we all have.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
But they got to be reasonable, right, And like we've
we've crossed over from the reasonable discussions about transgender to
the unreasonable ones, which is having a someone born biologically
a male go through puberty fighting against a woman who's
born biologically a woman. I just I don't mind if
(16:29):
you have a transgender division, but you can't compete against
the female sex.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
When you're born a male.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't think that's unreasonable and I don't think that's
too And by the way, the Olympics are exclusive. We
want this inclusivity, but the truth is they are exclusive.
Not everybody gets to go to the Olympics, not everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
From America does.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
We have plenty of fighters that are as good or
close to as good as the ones who qualify. We
don't because there's some exclusivity to it. That has to
be exclusivity in this In this case, this is the.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Best of the Done Dot Lead Show on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Doug Gotlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Adam Kaplan
is our Fox NFL in signer. He joins us now
on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. He
spent the day at Ravens Camp. Okay, so give me
your sense Ravens who Lamar Jackson's been dealing with some
strange illness that has kept him out. Grant, it's very
early on, but I mean, what's his status.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
He's fine now, he's been Backdoug in the last couple days.
But I will tell you about Lamar and illnesses. This
is like three years now that he had a COVID
issue at one point, but where he just doesn't feel
right and he's left left. You know, he goes home
from practice and not feeling well. So he's good. I
mean now, he did return last week briefly, then left
(17:52):
again and now he's been back flexing for good hopefully.
I think there is at least three days that he's
practiced in a row. So I'll tell you what if
someone said to to me from the Ravens today, we
would just kind of catch you up. And this is
definitely a story because the league has not really said
anything like this. You're talking about a power runner and
dark henry team that wants to run the ball anyway
and one of the best duel for a quarterbacks in
(18:13):
the NFL history. As this person said, I agree how
our team's going to defend them. I'm so looking forward
to seeing what that's going to look like early on
the season.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, it's me interesting. Does he have sickle cell or
sickle cell trade? I mean, I probably that's protected by hip.
I mean, that's one possible explanation for why some of
these illnesses affect him more than they would affect other guys.
Obviously it's a genetically inherited trade. And just I just
wonder because again, I mean, he is the picture of
health outside of that, and yeah, this was a really
elongated illness.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Okay, So last year it was, Hey.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
We want to show you that Lamar Jackson can really
throw the football, and we're going to evolve our pass game.
This year it's now we're going to get back to
just ground and pound and run the football. What do
you think the offense comes together and looks like.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I think it's to be phenomenal. It's gonna be dug
more of a twelve personal offense. What that means is
two tight ends, two receivers, and a running back and
Obviosite the quarterback. So you're not going to see a
lot of eleven personnel, which is three receivers and one
back in one ted end. And it's, by the way,
it's mostly because of Isaiah Likely the ted end for
(19:19):
Coastal Carolina from a couple of years ago, who filled
in really well for Mark Andrews, who's back from his injury,
and those two it's the best ted end doing with
the national football they're phenomenal together. Andrews has been a
pro more many times and he's phenomenal, and Likely he's great.
He's a little bit smaller than Andrews, but both as
a tannem and Todd Muck and the offense coordinating their
(19:41):
second year together. This thing. We'll make our picks for
the season at the end of August. But and you
always learn stuff when you're with a club, and you're
not always going to be right with what you see.
But offensively they're gonna they should they have a chance
to be phenomenal. But defensively that I do want to
mention Zach l Or. This is his first year's defensive coordinator.
(20:01):
He's the youngest coordinator offense, defensive special teams in the
National FOOTBA League. He's a former linebacker for them whose
career got cutch rip due to injury. Doug, it's thirty
one years old.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Wow, thirty one years old.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, like, listen, the fact that he's played in he
knows it obviously put some aheat of it. Okay, now,
how many times have you seen the Eagles work out?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Four times? I'll see them tonight, like in the Financial
Stadium and I fly out to LA to see five teams.
I think over the weekend. But if Philly looks better,
I'll say this last year was a disaster. You and
I've talked about on the FSR ten and one, then
out of the final seven, embarrassed in the playoffs. The
big thing for them, and I'm I can just tell
(20:46):
there's something different, and it's because they have a much
veteran more of a veteran staff to veteran coordinators offensive
defense that's going to help, and more of a veteran
group of assistant coaches. They brought too many coaches from
college football last season and it showed.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, well they also they just didn't have that. There
was something missing between the quarterback and the play calling.
It didn't the year before there was such a rhythm
to it. There wasn't rhythm to it. How they change that?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
All right? So Kellen Moore and Syrianne is going to
have to give up his scheme, as I understand, it
was pretty much gonna have to change, and he did.
Kellen Moore, who, by the way, interviewed for the same
head coaching job that Nick Sirianna got three years ago,
and Eagles hired Nick and Kellen would move on back
to Dallas and then over to the Chargers last season.
But they wanted the Eagles are a team. They're completely
(21:40):
different organizationally football wise from the Ravens. They want to
throw the football. Yes, they signed Sakwain Barkley. They love Barkley,
who played their same division. But they still want to
be a versatile team and it's just going to look different.
I mean, it really is just being there at training camp,
but it's not what I'm used to. When I watch
the Eagles, they usually have a good fact, but a
lead back or a great back like Barclay than we
(22:02):
know about his injury history. But they also have a
very good receiver corps with to the best of the
National FOOTBA League with Smith and I'll see a j Brown,
Dallas Goddard who didn't have a great season last season.
But I think it's more because Hurts regressed. You were
talking about whatever their offense. I think what happened there
Doug to checking into it. It was more that the
league said, Okay, we're not going to let Jail Hurts
(22:24):
beat us with his legs anymore. That's not going to happen.
And the teams dropped that fist defender in the box.
They took away at a lot of those designed runs,
and they made Jalen the passered like it was two
years ago and it just didn't happen. Just kind of
figure them out and Keellamore is more of a spread
off asive guy, and I'm looking forward to seeing what
this looks like. But they're going to be better, but
they're not going to be nearly as good as the
(22:44):
twenty two team, which is one of the best teams
I've seen Negals put out in the years.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Stet Gotlab Show here on Fox Sports Radio I'm sure
you've heard the news of the day, which is justin
Herbert Planner fashion. I just know you're going out to
California to see the Chargers. I'm guessing the Rams and
and of course the Cowboys practice practice there as well.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What are your what are your thoughts on the Chargers one?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Now, you know you're devoid of the star talent at
outside the numbers. Uh, you talked about the Ravens' is
basically the old Greg Roman Ravens. You got it, Bill's
Niners when he was at the Hardbaughs. Scheme has all
come together in year one.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's so funny because talk of the Ravens. They asked
me where I was going. They said, oh, you're gonna
see Greg. Well, we know they're gonna be run on
the football course. I mean, that's as one GM told me,
the most sophisticated run game that the team that I've
talked to a couple of months ago is the Charger
on their schedule. He said, they're so tough, they're so
unorthodox the ways they scheme it. They're gonna be run based.
(23:46):
You're right, Uh, Quinn Johnson will start a receiver. It
was there from the first round by a different regime
with the Chargers and Lad mcconzie, who I got to
tell you was incredible to Singer Bowl by far the
best five yards getting off the line that I saw
at this past senior boy his phenomenally is a second
round pick out of out of tourdor is terrific. And look,
but the thing for them is they're they're they're transitioning.
(24:09):
The defense is going to look different, their offense office
is gonna be run based. And I'll say this about
Jim Harball. He wins everywhere he goes. That's why the
oddsmakers are It seems like everyone's betten that over an
eight and a half. I think that's a little strong
thinking they're going to be a winning team in the
first year. I think roster's good enough. But we know
what's coming. You and I agree it's going to be
(24:31):
run based.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You know, I'm fascinated by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, I get that you haven't had a quarterback
since Dan Reno that you really felt good about. But
we've seen that ceiling with Tua the past couple of years,
and you know he has been oft injured. So this
feels like the last year in which you're going to
be able to surround him with this all star cast
of talented players. What's the league saying about the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Look, everyone's thought to his deal would get done. They
knew he was going to get fifty five million a year.
He didn't get too far from it. But the league
does this. This is what teams have told me about
to when they go up against him. If he gets
a clean look on that first read, that ball's coming
out and he looks great. If you make him think
if he holds onto the ball, he's going to get hit.
And it doesn't matter how much ball he puts onto
(25:19):
his frame. He struggles the longer he has the ball
in the football. That's the number show. That's with the
tape shows now there are twelve personal team. They don't
spread the ball out. They will run the football, There's
no question about it. Mike McDaniel comes from that Shanahan tree.
They're thick and balancer thinking run first. And by the way,
I will be with the Dolphins when they hosted Falcons
(25:40):
and Falcons on Tuesday Wednesday and Miami. I look forward
to that. But the Dolphins will be good and that division,
by the way, with Aaron Rodgers back is going to
be very, very competitive other than the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
There is because Russell Wilson missed the first couple of
practice practice, there are people like, oh, well, Justin Field's
take that job. And then we've seen some interceptions, we've
seen some of the flaws of Justin Fields. I don't
think for one second Justin Fields really has a legit
chance in the first five six games to ever play.
There's a reason he was out there on the market
(26:14):
and there wasn't much giving up to get him. But
what are you hearing in regards to Pittsburgh in their
quarterback situation.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
So talking to someone there with his Steelers about the
quarterback sook, it's very clearly Russell Wilson they're expecting to start.
I know Tomlin, Mike Tomlin kind of left it there
open just a smidge after saying in the off season
there's really gonna be no competition. Well, it's because Wilson
has been hurt and now he's limited and Fields had
(26:40):
to her for good days. But you're right, Jessic Field
is very, very gifted, but he's never played consistent football.
It's bailing the pocket it's hanging in there. He's got
all the town in the world, Doug, but he's never
been a consistent quarterback. And here's the thing, Arthur Smith.
They're going to run the heck out of the football.
You know it's coming. That's why he got the job
(27:01):
of other possibilities. That's what Mike Tomlin wants. By the way,
that's organization that comes from the Rooney family talking to people.
With the Steelers. They want to run the football first,
and they're going to get it. They've got a great tandem.
See the Steelers, Doug. To finish the steel Stock off.
Their feeling was this, they got bad quarterback play last
year and they were still a playoff team. I know
(27:22):
they haven't won a playoff game since seventeen under Mike Tomlin.
But their feeling is if they get a little bit
better play with Russell Wilson and not the variants they
got with Kenny Pickett Mitch Trubisky, but they can go
farther and that's what's coming. Folks. You're a Steeler fans,
smash bout football.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
The Niners are sitting there and this is the last
year of Brock Perdy making no money and there's been
a bunch of picks in the preseason, and he's like, look,
now's the time to take chances and try some things.
We have what we saw that last year when they
were down the Debo, when they were down in NYUK,
when they were down in Trent Williams. They're down when
they star players are Christian Mccafjeffrey. That's when he struggled,
(28:02):
what's their level of confidence in their quarterback being able
to have the same type of year next this year
that he had last year.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Now, I would say this, there were times when Deebo
Samuel by the way, and it was really what they'd
noticed in the numbers. When Deebo doesn't play, they're a
different team because all he does catching and running it.
And then, by the way, you have the brandon I situation.
So they still think will be with them this season.
They're still trying to figureut a way to make it
happy and then be reasonable with a contract. But now
they listen. Kyle Shanahan is a balanced guy. He talks
(28:33):
about his openers, they have to have a certain amount
of runs in the first half. He doesn't look at
it analytically like other teams do, and they're going to
run the football, they're gonna have balance, and they're not
asking pretty to more thirty three times a game if
everybody's healthy. That's, by the way, one of the best
defense of the National Football League. They play to their
defense and running game. Doug, it's not going to change.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Awesome stuff as always, that's Adam Kaplan. Of course you
can check out his Inside the Birds podcast as well,
and of course he'll be at uh He's been in Philly.
Phillis Camp Ravens. Camp would be out on his West
Coast swing coming up as well. He is our Fox
Sports Radio NFL insider Cap. You're the best man, Thanks
for joining us. Thank you all right, Doug gotlib show
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The way tire buying should be. Yesterday, Team USA look
good against South Sudan. They changed up the lineup. They
did seemed that. You know, I don't care what Steve
(30:26):
Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine that
was originally a plan.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I can be wrong, but you go from not playing
to starting. That seems a lot. Did I think he play? Yes,
I think that was all the complaining, like fine, will
start him.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
He didn't play particularly well.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know, there's a world there where people start to
understand what makes you a great NBA player, does not
necessarily make do a great international player just doesn't, and
how you fit with the group. But the matchups had
them playing smaller for a good portion of time, and
then when South Sudan went small, they threw the ball
inside the BAM and to Anthony Davis, and they for
(31:06):
the most part kept kept South Sudan out twenty points away.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
They didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I told everybody knew like I don't bet, but that's
spread twenty nine seemed too high. Here was Steve Kerr's
explanation for Embiid's oh sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Steve Kerr said that.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
He didn't play against South Sudan because the USA won
a better match up with their team speed and Kerr
is going to start Lebron, Steph Curry, Devin Booker, drew
Holiday and embid against Puerto Rico. I remember Jason Tatum
after yesterday's game said, hey, this has definitely been a
humbling experience, right. He said that not about playing and
(31:48):
scoring four points against South Sudan, but not playing at
all against Serbia. He said, quote, win a championship, new
contract cover of two K, and then you sit the
whole game cover of Sports showy straits. So it is
definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you right now, like
how it reads to me. I'm gonna sit here as
a coach, and I'll tell you Jason Tatum seems like
a colossal pain.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In the ass.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
When Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement.
All he said as Jalen Brown's teammate, and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA Finals was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in. And now instead
of saying, hey, I don't care if I play a
minute before I play the whole game, I just want
to win, He's like, yeah, you know, I got all
this stuff was humbling.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
It's not humbling.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
You have not been humbled, because then you read off
some sort of resume like any of us give a crap, right,
tell me if this sounds humbled to you. Win a championship,
new cover of a new contract, cover of two k
NBA two K cover of Sports Illustrated. It was definitely
a humbling experience. That's not humbling. You have not been humbled,
(33:00):
not at all. And oh yeah, by the way, Jason Tatum,
NBA Finals, how'd that work out for you?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
You know? Twenty one? A game was fine?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Seven rebounds, The game was fine, but didn't shoot a
great percentage, didn't play great And oh yeah, by.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The way, this is not the NBA, right, not the NBA.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
John Morant would be a terrible, terrible pick to beyond
USA Basketball. Jamran is a dynamic player, went healthy, dynamic.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So I just.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I do think that this is part of Kerr's plan, right,
is completely rotate based upon team.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Sometimes you don't play guys.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
The issue is which guys get it, which guys don't,
and this is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look,
Steph Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a
ton and the logic behind it is he's not. This
is a different game. It's way more physical, harder for
him to get a shot off, and much harder for
him to guard.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yes, Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Hey, Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
There's a question the niece an answer, and the answer
is if only there was someone with the authority and
the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That it was not that?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's not how questions asked. If you say, don't you
think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Okay, well let me hold on?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
What should I say?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
How?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Hold on?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
How did this get to the point where Steve kerr
Is says after game one that he felt like an
idiot for not playing. Justent Tatum, like, why hasn't all
of this been communicated to each player? It was Tatum,
you're not going to play game one? And why we're
not going to play game two?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
It was go back to is go back to the
quote game one he said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely
did the I'm not a surprise to Jason. Ted wasn't
surprised at you all embiid last night?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Then why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut. I
play the whole cut because I think what he's saying
is like, hey, you feel like an idiot not playing
the guy, but you had a plan and the plan
clearly worked. You know, because if you don't know anything
about actual working forty minutes, working in everybody the game plan,
(35:45):
you're like, hey, we're not going to play Jason tam
I'd be like, I take a listen, because in out
of context, it sounds like he's questioned himself.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 8 (35:55):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to, but that'll change.
You know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro.
He's you know, first team All NBA three years in
(36:16):
a row. I felt like an idiot not playing him.
But in a forty minute game, you can't play more
than ten, you really can't. And you know, so I
just I think he's he's an amazing guy, great player
and handled it beautifully, and you know he'll be back
out their next game.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, so he again, I think you're taking that as
the he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas
I think what he meant is, you know, he's first
team All NBA three years row.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I'm not going to play him. But so you feel
like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
But the truth is like, Okay, this is the plan
we had. It ended up working, and again because Kevin
Durant was played the perfect game in the first half,
like I'm not gonna I'm going to go back to
Kevin Durant in the second half, which they.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Did well that You're right, the comment in full context
completely explains it. It's just that idiot line I think
has gotten them in trouble ever since he said it.
And people obviously if there haven't been listening to their
full quote in context or what, because they took that
and ran with it like Steve and they did like
twenty straight minutes of ranting on wait, wait about Steve
(37:22):
and he.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Took something out of context and used it. That's that's stunning.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I thought he's I thought he was a journalist right
when he told he told Dan Lebttard he's a journalist. Yes, Wow,
I just look I'm just trying to express to you
we did this. Coaching is hard, it's it's not easy,
and a good portion of coaching in the NBA is
(37:46):
massaging egos and figuring out a way to make it work.
And I mean, it's pretty obvious that he's committed to this.
I'm going to sit a guy or to a game
so I don't have to play twelve. If you play twelve,
you know every But he's unhappy. It's just not enough minutes,
Just not enough minutes. Stut Gottlieb Show here on Fox
(38:06):
Sports Radio. I feel bad for Gordon Hayward, but I
will point out like he kind of raised his stink
over not playing for the Thunder in the playoffs. Now
he retires, like kind of think the Thunder knew he
was done. It's pretty obvious.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Are any of you guys going to watch the Hall
of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
I mean, yeah, I just like seeing the graphics, like
seeing the uniforms. Football is back everything, but the football,
you know, the product is Yeah, just no, I think
it's a good I live by a sports calendar, guys,
and I think we all do. And this is a
this is it's not only August first where we change
the calendar on our wall.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
It's already believe it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is basically.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Here, Dan, it's is it not? The starting prep of
beginning of kolonoscopy? Is what I would say?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Is?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Uh is the is Hall of Fame game? I don't know?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Wait what?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
About a colonosco.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
Well, I had a kolonoscopy last week. Yeah, no, that's
that's that's all right, fine, I have no problem. Forty
five and fifty should get a kolonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You ever served time dot Fletch? I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
It's back when chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been funny.
I think since Fletch.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
That was the last time he used fun maybe his
funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation and Fletch. Those are the
big three and I would argue that he was funniest
on Fletch. It was the same scene where he's talking
to the doctor and he's trying to feel him out
about one of his patients, and he's like, it's you know,
it's really sad about old Ben, and the doctor's like, ah,
(40:06):
he's dying for years. Yeah, but to go so suddenly
like that you're talking to me. It was intensive care
for over a year. Yeah, but the very end, the
very end when it died was very sudden.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Where on the metal stand would Fletch b of those
three the gold do you think?
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy. Overall, the movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
No, that's way. We've already had this discussion. Christmas Vacation
is a tear down from vacation, I think, and then
the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
See I look at it this way, Okay, I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers too, really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you're into movies, right,
So much of it was a spoof on these Bond movies.
(41:04):
And how cheesy they are and how over the top
they are and whatever. It's very very funny if you
were into Bond guys at all. This is a spoof
on all the Bond stuff. And had Mike Myers Austin
Powers too. Now all of a sudden they had to
find something funny when that whole joke was kind of
overplayed in Austin Powers one. And I thought Austin Powers
(41:24):
two was really really funny. Vacation was the classic movie
about the family vacation, right. It was like, ah, everybody's
done the family vacation, the family road trip. We're going
out to California. We're gonna go to Wally World, right,
come hell or high water. And that's the kind of
the old school eighties vacation. Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought,
(41:47):
you know, you eliminated that they'd actually go anywhere, but
you'd also had the uniqueness of family coming over the house,
the Christmas bonus and all that other stuff, and you know,
the family members you can't wait to have leave, and
this ridiculous thing we do where when any family member
is welcome, no matter how tough they are, to just
have around.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
But that's what we do is people. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
I think Christmas Vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
I think Christmas vacation is better than vacation.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine. I think
that was the.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Last post Fletcher for regular vacation is pre Fletch. I
believe I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble
Like he made some other decent films.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
That was like early and eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Maria,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports calendar?
Speaker 5 (43:09):
Say I had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I
didn't set up all but we should go to break here. Yeah, good,
good idea.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
We'll clean that up and edit. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Dan, I do agree with you, and it will be
on wherever I am today.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And it's just it is good.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
It does feel because because I think most people have
done the summer thing, we're yeah, I'm good with summer.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I really love Faldy Camera because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Plus even for kids being back in school, you got
football games on Friday nights or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever, right, new.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Classes, new schools, it's still fresh.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It's not once you get to winter, it's not to drudgery,
and then sports it becomes peak. I mean, think about
this August we still have the the end Olympic Games,
the kickoff of a football season, college football which has
a true playoff, and of course you'll have basketball, and
then you get you know October baseball awesome. So I'm
with you on the sports calendar. I understand. It's just
(44:04):
it's a weird thing that we all will look e
LeWitt and then go like I didn't know anybody playing.
I will feel if I watch in the second half,
I'll feel exactly like I feel watching the Grammys. You guys,
ever watching the Grammys and you're like, I've never heard
of any of these people.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, I don't know who they are.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Ever heard this album?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids, so
I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi concerts
this summer. Like I I'll still take my daughters to
cool country concerts, right, Like I still have, by at
least by proxy, a little bit of swag to me.
But when I watch the Grammys, I feel like the
biggest dork ever because I.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Don't know anybody.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
And then it's the same thing with the preseason football,
like I'm like, ooh ooh wait, he played in the
Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Right, That's about all I know.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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