August 1, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug weighs in on the controversy from the women's boxing event at the Paris Olympics where a woman quite a boxing match against a opponent who had previously failed a gender test. Doug take about Team USA hoops and the decisions Steve Kerr has made in the first two games. Plus, Dan Bayer takes Doug and the crew through a game of "I Feel A Draft".
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Welcome in.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I don't know how to say this other than to
be blunt, but we saw this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We discussed this at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He knew it was going to be an issue, and
sure enough, it's become an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
By now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm guessing, like my show is not the is not
the first show of the day, right so I understand
that other people have their shows, but I think we'd
be remiss if we didn't start with the transgender boxer
beating the biological female boxer into in basically in the
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submission in forty three seconds, forty three seconds, and I
think anybody who, anybody who who watched it and saw
when the young woman from Italy took off her her
head gear and then the young a guy who was
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a biological man and had a sex change changed to
a woman when she took off her head year You're like, Okay,
so I guess maybe I'm maybe I'm assuming too much,
but here's what happened, okay. Amman Khalif of Algeria won
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her opening boxing mount opening boxing bout on Thursday, when
Angelina Karini of Italy quit after just forty six seconds.
Khalif was disqualified from the twenty twenty three World Championships
after feeling an unspecified gender eligibility test, and her presence
at the Paris Olympics has become a divisive issues. Karini
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and Khalif exchanged only a few punches before Karini walked
away in abandoned the bout. And extremely unusual occurrents in
Olympic boxing, Karini, whose headgear apparently become dislodged at least
once before she quit, didn't shake Khalif's hands before the
decision was announced, she cried in the ring and was
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on her knees. Karini told her code that her nose
hurt too much for her to continue. Renzini urged her
to try and make it to the end of the
first round. That's Renzini's her coach, so they could talk further.
But Karini raised her hand again after taking just one
more punch from Khalif and asked and asked once more,
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to abandon a fight. She's too strong, Renzini recalled Karini,
telling him I entered the ring to fight. Karini said
in Italian, I didn't give up, but a punch hurt
too much, so I said enough, I go out with
my head held high. Now, look, I'll be honest with you.
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Part of it is she was bad right like I got,
you get punched. I understand there's a bigger discussion at
play here that you have somebody born biologically a man
punching somebody's biologically a woman, and anywhere else in the
world that would be a mismatch, and you wouldn't allow
it to happen, especially in the Olympic sanctioned boxing by match.
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On the other hand, you break your nose as a
fighter with one punch, and if you saw she left
her she left her face wide open several times. She
was not good in terms of the technical aspects of boxing,
and yeah, she got hit a couple of times since
she quit. The bigger discussion is why what are we doing?
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What are we what are we doing? And I understand
that when I say this, you'll have immediately go well, Gottlieb.
It's a card carrying Republican. I've told you that I
am a radical centrist. And yesterday, yesterday in the States,
I mean, I can't they talk about fumbling the bag.
(04:46):
That's the kids say, fumbling the bag. Donald Trump fumbled
the bag about as badly as you can fumble the bag.
I don't know if it cost him the election, but
it sure as hell made it really interesting. You go
back a couple of weeks ago when some idiot takes
a shot at him, combined with the fact that Biden
literally is asleep at the wheel, and this thing is
a rap, right, It's a rap.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
He's a convicted felon.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He who I mean, his whole approach to January seventh
is just ridiculous. I don't understand how he's still around
in the political world. I don't, but if you go
back two three weeks ago, he could they were if
we were in just run out the clock mode. And
(05:33):
now all of a sudden we got ourselves a ball game.
But somehow we've wrapped ourselves in our sides politically where
I look the easy the easy part is.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, not I'm talking about October seven, January, excuse me,
January sixth. I was duck in October.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, this one's become like super political, and it
doesn't need to be. It just doesn't. Like Again, I'm
not going to control people's you know, if you want
your if you want your your sexual orientation, or even
your sex once you become an adult, Like, that's out
of my control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't believe in controlling somebody that way.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's the same reason, by the way, I believe every
woman should be able to choose. I'm not going to
control a woman's body, what a woman does, potential offspring.
That's not my world. Again, I try to align myself
with my own thoughts and feelings. But how have we
gotten to a place so where somebody who's born biologically
a man, goes through puberty, has a sex change that
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can compete against a woman, like we all know that's
not fair, right. And it started kind of jokingly as
like Joanna man right, and now it's come something. It's again,
and it's one thing in there's lots of other sports
where you could maybe let it go.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You can't in boxing.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I distinctly remember, Jase, I don't remember the dates
I know we've done. I've done this show for over
fifteen years to creep it up on twenty years at
this time slot. But I know it was a show
with you when the US Olympic Committee announced that they
would allow transgender males who again there was a certain
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time period which they had to have hormone therapy or whatever,
and the numbers and we said, what are they doing?
This is going to be a disaster in boxing, and
sure enough yesterday was. So I don't know where we
go from here. I just don't. I don't know anybody
who thinks it's fair. I don't know anybody who thinks
it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I understand that you have all you have people
who are transgender or sitting there going like you know,
our rights have been violated for.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Youears I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Stand it's not something it's not a lifestyle or a
life change that I would ever make or somebody around
me i'd ever I would necessarily support. But again, I
haven't been put in that position where it's my son,
it's my daughter, it's my friend. So I don't know
it had I had two kid, My kids were in
a school and there was a kid who had a
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sex change.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Again, and I know there's different words for it to whatever.
I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm not a neanderthal.
It's just gender reassignment.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Surgery is a new way, which we say it again,
it is the same as a sex change, Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't understand. I don't understand how this happens. And
I get that we're trying to say like, hey, look,
you know you want to be a woman, supports you
as a woman. Okay, Hey, there's just this one thing.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You can't compete in high level sports against biological women.
What am I missing?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Jace two, like, how is is this how we got
into a place where this was allowed in the Olympics
when we saw it happening with swimming, and then yeah,
let's do a combat sport where and again I don't know.
It didn't appear the Italian boxer, she not appeared to
be very good, She never guard up, she had hit
once in the nose, and he may have been or
she may have been too strong for her All that
may be true. But again, how do we get to
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this point where we allowed this the Olympics?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Well, technically speaking, as I've read, the International Boxing Association
has always made these rulings when it comes to international
boxing events. This year the Olympics stop using the IBA
to govern their athletes, and the new body that they
chose to test the athletes have a more lenient testing
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for gender. And he passed the test for the Olympics
when she did not for the other international a year ago.
According to this that the test that she failed diagnosed
an x Y chromosome. That's a DNA thing, right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So this one was probably testing her hormones, which you
can adjust with hormone therapy, but doesn't start. It doesn't
change the fact that you developed physically as a man
until a time of general assignment surgery.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Correct, And I think the good thing about today is
is that you see the reaction on social media, and
I think you're right, it's like ninety nine percent. What
are we doing? The problem with this issue over the
last few years is it's been a fringe right issue
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covered by fringe right media outlets, and anything that the
fringe right covers nowadays is immediately dismissed as a conspiracy
theory and you're racist and your homophobic at the very least,
And I looked this up this morning, three point one
billion people watched the Olympics three years ago. That doesn't
make a lot of sense to me, It sounds like
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a lot, But say three point one billion people have
eyes on what just happened. I think this pushes it
into the mainstream. It gets enough people pissed off, and
the rules will start to change. At the very least,
allowing this to get to the Olympic level will expose
it and put it a magnifying glass on this and
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things will change.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I Sam, do you have any counter to it?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like again, I've always been a fairly liberal thinker, Okay,
fairly liberal thinker, and I know what happens is, you know,
anytime I've said anything that is remotely anti far right,
I'm super liberal. Anytime I say anything that's anti far left.
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I'm super conservative, I'm Pat Robertson. I am neither.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I make my own decisions based on my own beliefs,
my own faith, my own understanding of what I think
is right, what I think is wrong right. We'll get
back to that in a second. I think we have
some big breaking news. Here's Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Doug Big if you're a Chargers fan, because the Chargers
have announced that quarterback Justin Herbert will be in a
walking boot at least for the next couple of weeks
after he was diagnosed with a foot injury and injury
to the planter fascia in his right foot. Now, the
team did say in their statement that he will have
a graduated return to play schedule from that planter fascia injury.
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The expectation is that he'll be ready for the start
of the regular season. But not great news for the
Chargers is Justin Herbert's going to be out of action
for the next couple of weeks with that right foot injury.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So it's it's basically plant fasciatas what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yes, okay, so here's my understanding of plantar fasciaidis that
if it tears. If it tears, it's actually a good
thing because then they fix it and then you come
back here. Whereas it doesn't tear it psych paneto fasciatus.
It's just tedious and you take time off, but it's
still going to bother you all season long.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We gotta ask, well, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, no, I was gonna say it almost sounds like
a meniscous injury in a little bit where they're like, hey,
if you remove it, you could get back sooner. The
long term, it's not going to be great, but maybe
that's the best course of action to play. But maybe
I don't know, Maybe they're not parallels.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But no, it's not a bad one. It's not a
bad one. You know the answer to this, Jay Stu Right,
because they're the Chargers, Right, that just feels like it
because they're the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, you've been you've been on this for a while now.
There's a some of a curse.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it has to be. It has to be.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's the only thing. Like, did is there new practice
facility which they just opened? Spectacular? Is that on like
an Indian burial ground? What did they what did they do.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's the question. What did they would they do?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
All right, well, listen, we'll we'll have this on social
media at Gottlieb Show. Just what would you do again?
The solution is pretty easy to me. If you were
born a man. Sorry, at this level of sports, you
can't compete against women. I can recognize you as a woman,
I can call you by your your new name, I
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can treat you as a woman. With one exception, we
can't have you compete against biologically born women in an
international in the greatest international sporting event in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, that's not an unreasonable thing.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
No, it isn't. And and one other note, Doug, this
is all kind of in the essence of inclusion, which
you know, an election year, we're hearing a lot about
equity and inclusion.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I'm a I'm a parent of social of special needs.
I'm all for equity and inclusion in the youth sports
and at schools.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
But when you.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Are talking about livelihoods on the line, whether it be
just compensation, marketing, Olympic Games, then men should not be
able to compete with women. And then the next level
is because if you're just swimming against women, you don't
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have the chance of actually killing them with your fist. Yeah,
so the boxing, the fighting element of this makes it
more reprehensible.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't I just don't understand. And I am I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm all about inclusion, that we need to look at
things differently than we all have, but they got to
be reasonable, right, And like we've we've crossed over from
the reasonable discussions about transgender to the unreasonable ones, which
is having a someone born biologically a male go through
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puberty fighting against a woman who's born biologically a woman.
I just I don't mind if you have a transgender division,
but you can't compete against the female sex when you're
born a male. I don't think that's unreasonable and I
don't think that's too And by the way, the Olympics
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are exclusive. We want this inclusivity, but the truth is
they are exclusive. Not everybody gets to go to the Olympics,
not everybody from America does. We have plenty of fighters
that are as good or close to as good as
the ones who qualify. We don't because there's some exclusivity
to it. That has to be exclusivity in this in
this case, be.
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Speaker 1 (17:55):
The way tire buying should be yesterday, Team USA look
good again. South Sudan. They changed up the lineup they
did seemed that. You know, I don't care what Steve
Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine that
was originally a plan.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I can be wrong, but to go from not playing
to starting that that seems a lot. Did I think
he play, yes, I think that was all the complaining
like fine will start him. He didn't play particularly well.
You know, there's a world there where people start to
understand what makes you a great NBA player, does not
necessarily make you a great international player, just doesn't, and
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how you fit with the group. But the matchups had
them playing smaller for a good portion of time, and
then when South Sudin went small, they threw the ball
inside to Bam and to Anthony Davis, and they for
the most part kept kept South Sudan out. You know,
twenty points away they didn't cover. I told everybody knew
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like I don't bet, but that's spread. Twenty nine seemed
too high. Here was Steve kurrz explanation for Embiid's oh sorry.
Steve Kerr said that he didn't play against South Sudan
because the USA won a better match up with their
team speed and Kerr is gonna start Lebron, Steph Curry,
Devin Booker, Drew Holiday, and Embiid against Puerto Rico. I
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remember Jason Tatum after yesterday's game said, Hey, this has
definitely been a humbling experience, right. He said that, not
about playing and scoring four points against South Sudan, but
not playing at all against Serbia. He said, quote, win
a championship, new contract cover of two K, and then
you sit the whole game cover of sports showy straits.
So it is definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you
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right now, like how it reads to me. I'm gonna
sit here as a coach and I'll tell you Jason
Tatum seems like a colossal pain in the ass. When
Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement,
all he said, as Jalen Brown's teammate and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA Finals, was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And now instead of.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Saying, hey, I don't care if I play a minute
before I play the whole game, I just want to win.
He's like, yeah, you know, I got all this stuff
was humbling. It's not humbling. You have not been humbled,
because then you read off some sort of resume like
any of us give a crap, right, tell me if
this sounds humbled to you, win a championship, a new
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cover of a new contract, cover of two K, NBA,
two K cover of Sports Illustrated, it was definitely a
humbling experience.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's not humbling. You have not been humbled, not at all.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And oh yeah, by the way, Jason Tatum NBA Finals,
how'd that work out for you?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Twenty one a game was fine, seven rebounds a game
was fine, but didn't shoot a great percentage, didn't play great?
And oh yeah, by the way, this is not the NBA, right,
not the NBA. John Morant would be a terrible, terrible
pick to be on USA Basketball. Chamran is a dynamic
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player when healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Dynamic. So I just.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I do think that this is part of Kerr's plan, right,
is completely rotate based upon team.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sometimes you don't play guys.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The issue is which guys get it, which guys don't,
And this is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look,
Steph Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a
ton and the logic behind it is this is a
different game. It's way more physical, harder for him to
get a shot off, and much harder for him to guard.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yes, Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Hey Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
There's a question in the knees and answer, and the
answer is if only there was someone with the authority
and the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think that it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was not how that that's not how questions asked?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
You say?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Don't you think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay, well let hold on?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
What should I say? How?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
How did this get to the point where Steve kerr
Is says after game one that he felt like an
idiot for not playing Jason Tatum, Like, why hasn't all
of this been communicated to each player? It was Tatum,
you're not going to play game one and you're not
going to play game two.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was go back to go back to the quote
game one. He said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely
did the I'm not a surprise Jason Tedone's surprises Joel
and Bid last night.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Then why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Play the whole cut?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Because I think what he's saying is like, Hey, you
feel like an idiot not playing the guy, but you
had a plan and the playing clearly worked. You know,
because if you don't know anything about actual working forty minutes,
working in everybody the game plan, you're like, hey, we're
not going to play Jason tam I'd be like, I
take a listen, because in out of context, it sounds
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like he's questioned himself.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to. But that'll change,
you know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro.
He's you know, first team All NBA three years in
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a row. I felt like an idiot not playing him.
But you know, forty in a game, you can't play
more than ten, you really can't. And you know, so
I just I think he's he's an amazing guy, great
player and handled it beautifully, and you know he'll be
back out their next game.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So he again, I think you're taking that as the
he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas I
think what he meant is, you know, he's first team
All NBA three years row, I'm not going to play him.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But so you feel like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But the truth is, like, Okay, this is the plan
we had. It ended up working, and again because Kevin
Durant was played the perfect game in the first half
and like, I'm not gonna I'm gonna go back to
Kevin Durant early in the second half, which they did well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That You're right, the comment in full context completely explains it.
It's just that idiot one I think has gotten them
in trouble ever since he said it, and people, obviously
if there haven't been listening to the full quote in
context or what, because they took that and ran with
it like Steve and they did like twenty straight minutes
of ranting.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wait, wait, wait, wait Steeve, and he took some out
of context and used it. That's that's stunning. I thought
he's I thought he was a journalist right when he
told he told Dan Lebttard he's a journalist. Yes, wow,
I just look, I'm just trying to express to you
we did this. Coaching is hard, it's it's not easy,
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and a good portion of coaching in the NBA is
massaging egos and figuring out a way to make it work.
And I mean, it's pretty obvious that he's committed to this.
I'm gonna sit a guy or to a game so
I don't have to play twelve. If you play twelve,
you know everybody's unhappy. It's just not enough minutes, Just
not enough minutes. Stunt Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
(25:47):
I feel bad for Gordon Hayward, but I will point
out like he kind of raised his think over not
playing for the Thunder in the playoffs. Now he retires,
like kind of think the Thunder knew he was done.
It's pretty obvious. Are any of you guys can watch
the Hall of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, I just like seeing the graphics, like seeing the uniforms.
Football is is back everything but the football Yeah, no,
the product is Yeah, it's just No. I think it's
a good I live by a sports calendar, guys, and
I think we all do. And this is a This
is It's not only August first where we change the
calendar on our wall.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's already could.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
You believe that? That's amazing?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is is basically.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Here Dan, is is it not? The starting prep of
beginning of kolonoscopy? Is what I would say is?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Is the is Hall of Fame game? I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week about a well I had a kolonoscopy
last week.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, no, that's that's that's all right, fine, I have
no problem forty five and fifty should get a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You ever serve time dot Fletch, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's back when chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been
funny I think since Fletch.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That was the last time he was fun maybe his
funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation, and Fletch. Those are the
big three, and I would argue that he was funniest
on Fletch. It was the same scene where he's talking
to the doctor and he's trying to feel him out
about one of his patients, and he's like, it's you know,
it's it's really sad about old Ben, and the doctor's like, ah,
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he's dying for years. Yeah, but to go so suddenly
like that you're talking to me. It was intensive care
for over a year. Yeah, but at the very end,
the very end when he died was very sudden.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
We're on the stand. Would Fletch b of those three
the gold do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy overall. The movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, that's way to We've already had this discussion. Christmas
Vacation is a tear down from Vacation, I think, And
then the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
See, I look at it this way, okay. I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers two. Really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you were into
Bond movies, right, So much of it was a spoof
on these Bond movies and how cheesy they are and
(28:44):
how over the top they are and whatever. It's very,
very funny if you're if you were into Bond guys
at all, this is a spoof on all the Bond stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And had Mike Myers Austin Powers too.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now all of a sudden they had to find something
funny when that whole joke was kind kind of overplayed
in Austin Powers one.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I thought Austin Powers two was really really funny.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Vacation was the classic movie about the family vacation, right.
It was like, Ah, everybody's done the family vacation, the
family road trip. We're going out to California, We're gonna
go to Wally World, right, come hell or high water.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And that's the kind of the old school eighties vacation.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought, you know, you eliminated that
they'd actually go anywhere. But you'd also had the uniqueness
of family coming over the house, the Christmas bonus and
all that other stuff, and you know, the family members
you can't wait to have leave, and this ridiculous thing
we do where when any family member is welcome, no
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matter how tough they are, to just have around.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that's what we do as people. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think Christmas vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think Christmas vacation is better than vacation.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I think that was the last post Fletcher for regular
vacation is pre Fletch.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble like
he made some other decent films.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
That was like early in eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range eighties.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Mary,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports calendar.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Sam had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I didn't
set up all but we should go to break here.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, good, good idea.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We'll clean it up and edit. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Dan, I do agree with you, and it will be
on wherever I am today. And it's just it is good.
It does feel because I think most people have done
the summer thing. We're like, yeah, I'm good with summer.
I really love Faaldy came around because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school. Plus even for kids being
back in school, you got football games on Friday nights
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or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever. Right, new classes, new schools,
it's still fresh. It's not once you get to winter,
it's not to drudgery. And then sports it becomes peak.
I mean, think about this August. We still have the
end Olympic Games, the kickoff of a football season, college
football which has a true playoff, and of course you'll
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have basketball, and then you get. You know, October baseball
is awesome, So I'm with you on the sports calendar.
I understand. It's just it's a weird thing that we
all will look eluit and then go like, I didn't
know anybody playing. I will feel if I watch in
the second half, I'll feel exactly like I feel watching
the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
You guys, ever watched the Grammys and you're like, I've
never heard of any of these people.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah, I don't know who they are, never heard this album?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids, so
I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi concert
this summer, Like I still take my daughters to cool
country concerts, right, Like I still have, by at least
by proxy, a little bit of swag to me. But
when I watch the Grammys, I feel like the biggest
dork ever because I don't know anybody. And then it's
the same thing with the preseason football, like I'm like, ooh, ooh, wait,
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he played in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Right, That's about all I know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like to have a little fun with it, Doug, a
little sports, sometimes not a little sports. We turn over
to our man, Dan Buyer, play game.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
What do you got all right? Doug? The game today
is I feel a draft training camps underway everywhere in
the NFL. Training camp is starting in college football in
a lot of places. Let's talk about football practice. Talking
about football practice, I think we've all gone through football
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practices at least at some point in our previous athletic lives.
We are drafting today the worst parts of football practice.
I've always said football is a game that you have
to love if you want to play it, and football
practice was quite a labor of love. Jason Stewart, you
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have the first overall pick. Doug Gottlieb, you are second,
Iowa Sam your third, and I will pick fourth. In
the swing pick. Jason Stewart, You're on the clock for
worst part of football practice.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Hey, Stan, I'll take it from here. As a freshman
high school third string quarterback, and I grew up in
the eighties, so it's a much different time. We made
fun of each other. Coaches humiliated us, they called us
derogatory names. But I will say this personally, the worst
part of practice was running, anything that had to do
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with running or conditioning. I'm out, we're talking about practice.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
All right, let's run. Let's go run, Doug, running is
off the board. You're up at number two for the
worst part of football practice.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think it's the worst part of all football things.
And I played football from time I was seven to
the time I was fourteen to fifteen. I'll say that
one for later because it won't get picked up. I'll
do updowns. Don't like updowns? Yeah, updowns.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Didn't like updowns.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Not a fan either. All right, Sam, you're up at
number three.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
We've already kind of I feel like conditioning is just
this broad That's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
So, so can I just.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Say updowns work conditioning though down punishment. But if you
guys want to get that's fine.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
I would say. I'm going to say end of practice,
wind sprints. You've already gone through a full practice. You're
already pretty tired and then you got to do like
fifty yards down you go back to running it. Well running, Yeah,
but when you're sprinting saying anything, running sure, but running
is a part of the game, Like you have to
run at some point, but you're not running the ball
through the a gap, being like this sucks running with
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your teammate from lining the wind sprints and then you
got to do the fifty of the forty, the thirty. Yeah,
and your exhausted people are throwing up.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You're hot. It's late in the day. Yeah, so out
on that. Okay, all right, I'm going to give you
this mouth guard break in. Oh my goodness, hot mold.
I could still feel it on my lips, like the
of it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I love that. I like the hot.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
That's a good breaking I actually like really yeah, I
like I hate it when the mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Guard got gross, got gross.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
I always butterflied at the end from like yeah not
so much. Yeah, take it into your your face mask, man,
that was the word.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
But I would get like the top of my lips
because maybe I didn't form it correctly. Like that would
always be you.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Guys did the where you'd stick it into boiling water, right, yeah,
bring it out.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
And then have it mold to your teeth. Yeah. Back
when we practice, who needed water breaks? The no water? Yeah,
I was like you had to earn getting a drink.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That was Howard Stellenberger, Right, So I got fired. Oklahoma.
They had preseason practice in Oklahoma, no water.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
We know better now in Oklahoma. Man, all right, Sam,
back to you. I'm gonna go running.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
No, let's go going up against in practice two former Hawkeyes,
one of which was the state of Iowa, was class
for a Gatorade Player of the Year.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
It was not fun to compete against that. Man. We
all went through that.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm sure mine. Mine is so simple. Fun football guy.
Always guys always hitting each other when you don't need to.
It's like it's just like, yeah, the hitting each other
in the back, the extra yeah, all the extra stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You're like, dude, what are you doing? It's football?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Football, Like, no headbutting me just because you tackled somebody
Else's not part of football. Now, I'm concussed, all right,
last one, Jace do what he got.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Nineteen eighties coaches that had no line when it came
to humiliating you.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
That's game time.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
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I don't know how to say this other than to
be blunt, but we saw this coming.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We discussed this at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He knew it was going to be an issue, and
sure enough, it's become an issue.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
By now.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm guessing, like my show is not the is not
the first show of the day, right so I understand
that other people have their shows, but I think we'd
be remiss if we didn't start with the transgender boxer
beating the biological female boxer into in basically in the
(01:28):
submission in forty three seconds, forty three seconds, and I
think anybody who, anybody who who watched it and saw
when the young woman from Italy took off her her
head gear and then the young a guy who was
(01:52):
a biological man and had a sex change changed to
a woman when she took off her head year You're like, Okay,
so I guess maybe I'm maybe I'm assuming too much,
but here's what happened, okay. Amman Khalif of Algeria won
(02:14):
her opening boxing mount opening boxing bout on Thursday, when
Angelina Karini of Italy quit after just forty six seconds.
Khalif was disqualified from the twenty twenty three World Championships
after feeling an unspecified gender eligibility test, and her presence
at the Paris Olympics has become a divisive issues. Karini
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and Khalif exchanged only a few punches before Karini walked
away in abandoned the bout. And extremely unusual occurrents in
Olympic boxing, Karini, whose headgear apparently become dislodged at least
once before she quit, didn't shake Khalif's hands before the
decision was announced, she cried in the ring and was
(02:57):
on her knees. Karini told her code that her nose
hurt too much for her to continue. Renzini urged her
to try and make it to the end of the
first round. That's Renzini's her coach, so they could talk further.
But Karini raised her hand again after taking just one
more punch from Khalif and asked and asked once more,
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to abandon a fight. She's too strong, Renzini recalled Karini,
telling him I entered the ring to fight. Karini said
in Italian, I didn't give up, but a punch hurt
too much, so I said enough, I go out with
my head held high. Now, look, I'll be honest with you.
(03:38):
Part of it is she was bad right like I got,
you get punched. I understand there's a bigger discussion at
play here that you have somebody born biologically a man
punching somebody's biologically a woman, and anywhere else in the
world that would be a mismatch, and you wouldn't allow
it to happen, especially in the Olympic sanctioned boxing by match.
(04:00):
On the other hand, you break your nose as a
fighter with one punch, and if you saw she left
her she left her face wide open several times. She
was not good in terms of the technical aspects of boxing,
and yeah, she got hit a couple of times since
she quit. The bigger discussion is why what are we doing?
(04:22):
What are we what are we doing? And I understand
that when I say this, you'll have immediately go well, Gottlieb.
It's a card carrying Republican. I've told you that I
am a radical centrist. And yesterday, yesterday in the States,
I mean, I can't they talk about fumbling the bag.
(04:46):
That's the kids say, fumbling the bag. Donald Trump fumbled
the bag about as badly as you can fumble the bag.
I don't know if it cost him the election, but
it sure as hell made it really interesting. You go
back a couple of weeks ago when some idiot takes
a shot at him, combined with the fact that Biden
literally is asleep at the wheel, and this thing is
a rap, right, It's a rap.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
He's a convicted felon.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
He who I mean, his whole approach to January seventh
is just ridiculous. I don't understand how he's still around
in the political world. I don't, but if you go
back two three weeks ago, he could they were if
we were in just run out the clock mode. And
(05:33):
now all of a sudden we got ourselves a ball game.
But somehow we've wrapped ourselves in our sides politically where
I look the easy the easy part is.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, not I'm talking about October seven, January, excuse me,
January sixth. I was duck in October.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I mean, this one's become like super political, and it
doesn't need to be. It just doesn't. Like Again, I'm
not going to control people's you know, if you want
your if you want your your sexual orientation, or even
your sex once you become an adult, Like, that's out
of my control.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't believe in controlling somebody that way.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's the same reason, by the way, I believe every
woman should be able to choose. I'm not going to
control a woman's body, what a woman does, potential offspring.
That's not my world. Again, I try to align myself
with my own thoughts and feelings. But how have we
gotten to a place so where somebody who's born biologically
a man, goes through puberty, has a sex change that
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can compete against a woman, like we all know that's
not fair, right. And it started kind of jokingly as
like Joanna man right, and now it's come something. It's again,
and it's one thing in there's lots of other sports
where you could maybe let it go.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You can't in boxing.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I distinctly remember, Jase, I don't remember the dates
I know we've done. I've done this show for over
fifteen years to creep it up on twenty years at
this time slot. But I know it was a show
with you when the US Olympic Committee announced that they
would allow transgender males who again there was a certain
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time period which they had to have hormone therapy or whatever,
and the numbers and we said, what are they doing?
This is going to be a disaster in boxing, and
sure enough yesterday was. So I don't know where we
go from here. I just don't. I don't know anybody
who thinks it's fair. I don't know anybody who thinks
it's the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And I understand that you have all you have people
who are transgender or sitting there going like you know,
our rights have been violated for.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Youears I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Stand it's not something it's not a lifestyle or a
life change that I would ever make or somebody around
me i'd ever I would necessarily support. But again, I
haven't been put in that position where it's my son,
it's my daughter, it's my friend. So I don't know
it had I had two kid, My kids were in
a school and there was a kid who had a
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sex change.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Again, and I know there's different words for it to whatever.
I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm not a neanderthal.
It's just gender reassignment.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Surgery is a new way, which we say it again,
it is the same as a sex change, Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I don't understand. I don't understand how this happens. And
I get that we're trying to say like, hey, look,
you know you want to be a woman, supports you
as a woman. Okay, Hey, there's just this one thing.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
You can't compete in high level sports against biological women.
What am I missing?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Jace two, like, how is is this how we got
into a place where this was allowed in the Olympics
when we saw it happening with swimming, and then yeah,
let's do a combat sport where and again I don't know.
It didn't appear the Italian boxer, she not appeared to
be very good, She never guard up, she had hit
once in the nose, and he may have been or
she may have been too strong for her All that
may be true. But again, how do we get to
(09:21):
this point where we allowed this the Olympics?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Well, technically speaking, as I've read, the International Boxing Association
has always made these rulings when it comes to international
boxing events. This year the Olympics stop using the IBA
to govern their athletes, and the new body that they
chose to test the athletes have a more lenient testing
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for gender. And he passed the test for the Olympics
when she did not for the other international a year ago.
According to this that the test that she failed diagnosed
an x Y chromosome. That's a DNA thing, right.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So this one was probably testing her hormones, which you
can adjust with hormone therapy, but doesn't start. It doesn't
change the fact that you developed physically as a man
until a time of general assignment surgery.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Correct, And I think the good thing about today is
is that you see the reaction on social media, and
I think you're right, it's like ninety nine percent. What
are we doing? The problem with this issue over the
last few years is it's been a fringe right issue
(10:47):
covered by fringe right media outlets, and anything that the
fringe right covers nowadays is immediately dismissed as a conspiracy
theory and you're racist and your homophobic at the very least,
And I looked this up this morning, three point one
billion people watched the Olympics three years ago. That doesn't
make a lot of sense to me, It sounds like
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a lot, But say three point one billion people have
eyes on what just happened. I think this pushes it
into the mainstream. It gets enough people pissed off, and
the rules will start to change. At the very least,
allowing this to get to the Olympic level will expose
it and put it a magnifying glass on this and
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things will change.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, I Sam, do you have any counter to it?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Like again, I've always been a fairly liberal thinker, Okay,
fairly liberal thinker, and I know what happens is, you know,
anytime I've said anything that is remotely anti far right,
I'm super liberal. Anytime I say anything that's anti far left.
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I'm super conservative, I'm Pat Robertson. I am neither.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I make my own decisions based on my own beliefs,
my own faith, my own understanding of what I think
is right, what I think is wrong right. We'll get
back to that in a second. I think we have
some big breaking news. Here's Dan Byer Dan.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Doug Big if you're a Chargers fan, because the Chargers
have announced that quarterback Justin Herbert will be in a
walking boot at least for the next couple of weeks
after he was diagnosed with a foot injury and injury
to the planter fascia in his right foot. Now, the
team did say in their statement that he will have
a graduated return to play schedule from that planter fascia injury.
(12:49):
The expectation is that he'll be ready for the start
of the regular season. But not great news for the
Chargers is Justin Herbert's going to be out of action
for the next couple of weeks with that right foot injury.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
So it's it's basically plant fasciatas what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yes, okay, so here's my understanding of plantar fasciaidis that
if it tears. If it tears, it's actually a good
thing because then they fix it and then you come
back here. Whereas it doesn't tear it psych paneto fasciatus.
It's just tedious and you take time off, but it's
still going to bother you all season long.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
We gotta ask, well, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, no, I was gonna say it almost sounds like
a meniscous injury in a little bit where they're like, hey,
if you remove it, you could get back sooner. The
long term, it's not going to be great, but maybe
that's the best course of action to play. But maybe
I don't know, Maybe they're not parallels.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But no, it's not a bad one. It's not a
bad one. You know the answer to this, Jay Stu Right,
because they're the Chargers, Right, that just feels like it
because they're the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, you've been you've been on this for a while now.
There's a some of a curse.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it has to be. It has to be.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's the only thing. Like, did is there new practice
facility which they just opened? Spectacular? Is that on like
an Indian burial ground? What did they what did they do.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's the question. What did they would they do?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
All right, well, listen, we'll we'll have this on social
media at Gottlieb Show. Just what would you do again?
The solution is pretty easy to me. If you were
born a man. Sorry, at this level of sports, you
can't compete against women. I can recognize you as a woman,
I can call you by your your new name, I
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can treat you as a woman. With one exception, we
can't have you compete against biologically born women in an
international in the greatest international sporting event in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Like, that's not an unreasonable thing.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
No, it isn't. And and one other note, Doug, this
is all kind of in the essence of inclusion, which
you know, an election year, we're hearing a lot about
equity and inclusion.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I'm a I'm a parent of social of special needs.
I'm all for equity and inclusion in the youth sports
and at schools.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
But when you.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Are talking about livelihoods on the line, whether it be
just compensation, marketing, Olympic Games, then men should not be
able to compete with women. And then the next level
is because if you're just swimming against women, you don't
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have the chance of actually killing them with your fist. Yeah,
so the boxing, the fighting element of this makes it
more reprehensible.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I don't I just don't understand. And I am I'm
with you.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I'm all about inclusion, that we need to look at
things differently than we all have, but they got to
be reasonable, right, And like we've we've crossed over from
the reasonable discussions about transgender to the unreasonable ones, which
is having a someone born biologically a male go through
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puberty fighting against a woman who's born biologically a woman.
I just I don't mind if you have a transgender division,
but you can't compete against the female sex when you're
born a male. I don't think that's unreasonable and I
don't think that's too And by the way, the Olympics
(16:41):
are exclusive. We want this inclusivity, but the truth is
they are exclusive. Not everybody gets to go to the Olympics,
not everybody from America does. We have plenty of fighters
that are as good or close to as good as
the ones who qualify. We don't because there's some exclusivity
to it. That has to be exclusivity in this in
this case, be.
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The way tire buying should be yesterday, Team USA look
good again. South Sudan. They changed up the lineup they
did seemed that. You know, I don't care what Steve
Kerr says about Jason Tatum starting. I can't imagine that
was originally a plan.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I can be wrong, but to go from not playing
to starting that that seems a lot. Did I think
he play, yes, I think that was all the complaining
like fine will start him. He didn't play particularly well.
You know, there's a world there where people start to
understand what makes you a great NBA player, does not
necessarily make you a great international player, just doesn't, and
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how you fit with the group. But the matchups had
them playing smaller for a good portion of time, and
then when South Sudin went small, they threw the ball
inside to Bam and to Anthony Davis, and they for
the most part kept kept South Sudan out. You know,
twenty points away they didn't cover. I told everybody knew
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like I don't bet, but that's spread. Twenty nine seemed
too high. Here was Steve kurrz explanation for Embiid's oh sorry.
Steve Kerr said that he didn't play against South Sudan
because the USA won a better match up with their
team speed and Kerr is gonna start Lebron, Steph Curry,
Devin Booker, Drew Holiday, and Embiid against Puerto Rico. I
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remember Jason Tatum after yesterday's game said, Hey, this has
definitely been a humbling experience, right. He said that, not
about playing and scoring four points against South Sudan, but
not playing at all against Serbia. He said, quote, win
a championship, new contract cover of two K, and then
you sit the whole game cover of sports showy straits.
So it is definitely humbling. I'm just gonna tell you
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right now, like how it reads to me. I'm gonna
sit here as a coach and I'll tell you Jason
Tatum seems like a colossal pain in the ass. When
Jalen Brown wasn't named to the team as a replacement,
all he said, as Jalen Brown's teammate and Jalen Brown
played great in the NBA Finals, was like, yeah, a
lot of guys want to get in.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And now instead of.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Saying, hey, I don't care if I play a minute
before I play the whole game, I just want to win.
He's like, yeah, you know, I got all this stuff
was humbling. It's not humbling. You have not been humbled,
because then you read off some sort of resume like
any of us give a crap, right, tell me if
this sounds humbled to you, win a championship, a new
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cover of a new contract, cover of two K, NBA,
two K cover of Sports Illustrated, it was definitely a
humbling experience.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
That's not humbling. You have not been humbled, not at all.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And oh yeah, by the way, Jason Tatum NBA Finals,
how'd that work out for you?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Twenty one a game was fine, seven rebounds a game
was fine, but didn't shoot a great percentage, didn't play great?
And oh yeah, by the way, this is not the NBA, right,
not the NBA. John Morant would be a terrible, terrible
pick to be on USA Basketball. Chamran is a dynamic
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player when healthy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Dynamic. So I just.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I do think that this is part of Kerr's plan, right,
is completely rotate based upon team.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sometimes you don't play guys.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
The issue is which guys get it, which guys don't,
And this is why some guys weren't selected. I mean, look,
Steph Curry's not played particularly well. He's not playing a
ton and the logic behind it is this is a
different game. It's way more physical, harder for him to
get a shot off, and much harder for him to guard.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yes, Jason Stewart, Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Hey Doug, I think it's appropriate that we roll this in.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
There's a question in the knees and answer, and the
answer is if only there was someone with the authority
and the wisdom to give us that answer.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, I'm the head coach. I get to set the schedule.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Hold on, let's ask the coach.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Hey, Doug, yep, So don't you think that it.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Was not how that that's not how questions asked?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
You say?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Don't you think you're leading me? What's the question?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Okay, well let hold on?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
What should I say? How?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Hold on?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
How did this get to the point where Steve kerr
Is says after game one that he felt like an
idiot for not playing Jason Tatum, Like, why hasn't all
of this been communicated to each player? It was Tatum,
you're not going to play game one and you're not
going to play game two.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It was go back to go back to the quote
game one. He said, we talked about this with Jason,
that that we that this this might happen. He absolutely
did the I'm not a surprise Jason Tedone's surprises Joel
and Bid last night.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Then why did you feel like an idiot?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Play the whole Can we play the whole cut?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Play the whole cut?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Because I think what he's saying is like, Hey, you
feel like an idiot not playing the guy, but you
had a plan and the playing clearly worked. You know,
because if you don't know anything about actual working forty minutes,
working in everybody the game plan, you're like, hey, we're
not going to play Jason tam I'd be like, I
take a listen, because in out of context, it sounds
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like he's questioned himself.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Here's the entire cut.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
It's tough, but Jason handled it really well. I talked
to him today before the game that they may play
out this way just with Kevin coming back and the
lineups that I wanted to get to. But that'll change,
you know, Jason's going to play. Every game is going
to be different based on matchups. He's a total pro.
He's you know, first team All NBA three years in
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a row. I felt like an idiot not playing him.
But you know, forty in a game, you can't play
more than ten, you really can't. And you know, so
I just I think he's he's an amazing guy, great
player and handled it beautifully, and you know he'll be
back out their next game.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
So he again, I think you're taking that as the
he felt like an idiot, like admitting mistake, whereas I
think what he meant is, you know, he's first team
All NBA three years row, I'm not going to play him.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But so you feel like an idiot.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
But the truth is, like, Okay, this is the plan
we had. It ended up working, and again because Kevin
Durant was played the perfect game in the first half
and like, I'm not gonna I'm gonna go back to
Kevin Durant early in the second half, which they did well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
That You're right, the comment in full context completely explains it.
It's just that idiot one I think has gotten them
in trouble ever since he said it, and people, obviously
if there haven't been listening to the full quote in
context or what, because they took that and ran with
it like Steve and they did like twenty straight minutes
of ranting.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Wait, wait, wait, wait Steeve, and he took some out
of context and used it. That's that's stunning. I thought
he's I thought he was a journalist right when he
told he told Dan Lebttard he's a journalist. Yes, wow,
I just look, I'm just trying to express to you
we did this. Coaching is hard, it's it's not easy,
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and a good portion of coaching in the NBA is
massaging egos and figuring out a way to make it work.
And I mean, it's pretty obvious that he's committed to this.
I'm gonna sit a guy or to a game so
I don't have to play twelve. If you play twelve,
you know everybody's unhappy. It's just not enough minutes, Just
not enough minutes. Stunt Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio.
(25:47):
I feel bad for Gordon Hayward, but I will point
out like he kind of raised his think over not
playing for the Thunder in the playoffs. Now he retires,
like kind of think the Thunder knew he was done.
It's pretty obvious. Are any of you guys can watch
the Hall of Fame game tonight?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah, I'll watch a little of it for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Can't help yourself.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Yeah, I just like seeing the graphics, like seeing the uniforms.
Football is is back everything but the football Yeah, no,
the product is Yeah, it's just No. I think it's
a good I live by a sports calendar, guys, and
I think we all do. And this is a This
is It's not only August first where we change the
calendar on our wall.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
It's already could.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
You believe that? That's amazing?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
But the Hall of Fame game is is a signal
that fall is is basically.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Here Dan, is is it not? The starting prep of
beginning of kolonoscopy? Is what I would say is?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Is the is Hall of Fame game? I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
Oh, we were just bringing in something that Dan brought
up last week about a well I had a kolonoscopy
last week.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Yeah, no, that's that's that's all right, fine, I have
no problem forty five and fifty should get a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
You ever serve time dot Fletch, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I only knew Fletch because when I lived in Santa Monica,
I heard that some of the scenes were filed and
filmed in the alleyways around there.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
It's back when chevy Chase was funny. He hasn't been
funny I think since Fletch.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That was the last time he was fun maybe his
funniest because there's Caddyshack, Vacation, and Fletch. Those are the
big three, and I would argue that he was funniest
on Fletch. It was the same scene where he's talking
to the doctor and he's trying to feel him out
about one of his patients, and he's like, it's you know,
it's it's really sad about old Ben, and the doctor's like, ah,
(27:45):
he's dying for years. Yeah, but to go so suddenly
like that you're talking to me. It was intensive care
for over a year. Yeah, but at the very end,
the very end when he died was very sudden.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
We're on the stand. Would Fletch b of those three
the gold do you think?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes, I'm kind of a vacation guy overall. The movie
Vacation makes me laugh, maybe.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
More than more than Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
No, that's way to We've already had this discussion. Christmas
Vacation is a tear down from Vacation, I think, And
then the other vacations are just awful.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
See, I look at it this way, okay. I look
at Christmas Vacation being like the Austin Powers two. Really okay,
because Austin Powers was incredibly funny if you were into
Bond movies, right, So much of it was a spoof
on these Bond movies and how cheesy they are and
(28:44):
how over the top they are and whatever. It's very,
very funny if you're if you were into Bond guys
at all, this is a spoof on all the Bond stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
And had Mike Myers Austin Powers too.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Now all of a sudden they had to find something
funny when that whole joke was kind kind of overplayed
in Austin Powers one.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And I thought Austin Powers two was really really funny.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Vacation was the classic movie about the family vacation, right.
It was like, Ah, everybody's done the family vacation, the
family road trip. We're going out to California, We're gonna
go to Wally World, right, come hell or high water.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
And that's the kind of the old school eighties vacation.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Whereas Christmas Vacation, I thought, you know, you eliminated that
they'd actually go anywhere. But you'd also had the uniqueness
of family coming over the house, the Christmas bonus and
all that other stuff, and you know, the family members
you can't wait to have leave, and this ridiculous thing
we do where when any family member is welcome, no
(29:44):
matter how tough they are, to just have around.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
But that's what we do as people. I disagree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
I think Christmas vacation is funnier than vacation, even though
vacation probably in terms of storyline and just the ability
to capture the you know, some hilarious things from this
bizarre vacation made it unique.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think Christmas vacation is better than vacation.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Okay, so then you need to we need to correct
what you said three minutes ago, because if you're saying
Fletch was the last time he was funny, I think
Christmas Vacation was made in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
I think that was the last post Fletcher for regular
vacation is pre Fletch.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I believe.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I thought he was great, like nothing but trouble like
he made some other decent films.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
What else do you make those decent spies like us?
Speaker 7 (30:37):
That was like early in eighties, wasn't it. Yeah, that
was in the Fletch range eighties.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, it was all the same same area. So Mary,
how do we get to this discussion what we're talking about? Oh,
we're talking about sports calendar.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
Sam had a horrible joke about Oh yeah, I didn't
set up all but we should go to break here.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah, good, good idea.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
We'll clean it up and edit. That's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Dan, I do agree with you, and it will be
on wherever I am today. And it's just it is good.
It does feel because I think most people have done
the summer thing. We're like, yeah, I'm good with summer.
I really love Faaldy came around because falls it's the best.
Kids are back in school. Plus even for kids being
back in school, you got football games on Friday nights
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or Thursday nights or Saturdays whatever. Right, new classes, new schools,
it's still fresh. It's not once you get to winter,
it's not to drudgery. And then sports it becomes peak.
I mean, think about this August. We still have the
end Olympic Games, the kickoff of a football season, college
football which has a true playoff, and of course you'll
(31:36):
have basketball, and then you get. You know, October baseball
is awesome, So I'm with you on the sports calendar.
I understand. It's just it's a weird thing that we
all will look eluit and then go like, I didn't
know anybody playing. I will feel if I watch in
the second half, I'll feel exactly like I feel watching
the Grammys.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
You guys, ever watched the Grammys and you're like, I've
never heard of any of these people.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah, I don't know who they are, never heard this album?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, Like I know, I'm starting to get to the
lame age.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Like I'm pretty cool, Like I got teenage kids, so
I I you know, I went to Playboy Cardi concert
this summer, Like I still take my daughters to cool
country concerts, right, Like I still have, by at least
by proxy, a little bit of swag to me. But
when I watch the Grammys, I feel like the biggest
dork ever because I don't know anybody. And then it's
the same thing with the preseason football, like I'm like, ooh, ooh, wait,
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he played in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Right, That's about all I know.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
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Speaker 2 (32:38):
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
Like to have a little fun with it, Doug, a
little sports, sometimes not a little sports. We turn over
to our man, Dan Buyer, play game.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
What do you got all right? Doug? The game today
is I feel a draft training camps underway everywhere in
the NFL. Training camp is starting in college football in
a lot of places. Let's talk about football practice. Talking
about football practice, I think we've all gone through football
(33:19):
practices at least at some point in our previous athletic lives.
We are drafting today the worst parts of football practice.
I've always said football is a game that you have
to love if you want to play it, and football
practice was quite a labor of love. Jason Stewart, you
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have the first overall pick. Doug Gottlieb, you are second,
Iowa Sam your third, and I will pick fourth. In
the swing pick. Jason Stewart, You're on the clock for
worst part of football practice.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Hey, Stan, I'll take it from here. As a freshman
high school third string quarterback, and I grew up in
the eighties, so it's a much different time. We made
fun of each other. Coaches humiliated us, they called us
derogatory names. But I will say this personally, the worst
part of practice was running, anything that had to do
(34:11):
with running or conditioning. I'm out, we're talking about practice.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
All right, let's run. Let's go run, Doug, running is
off the board. You're up at number two for the
worst part of football practice.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think it's the worst part of all football things.
And I played football from time I was seven to
the time I was fourteen to fifteen. I'll say that
one for later because it won't get picked up. I'll
do updowns. Don't like updowns? Yeah, updowns.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Didn't like updowns.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Not a fan either. All right, Sam, you're up at
number three.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
We've already kind of I feel like conditioning is just
this broad That's exactly what I was going to say.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
So, so can I just.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Say updowns work conditioning though down punishment. But if you
guys want to get that's fine.
Speaker 7 (35:06):
I would say. I'm going to say end of practice,
wind sprints. You've already gone through a full practice. You're
already pretty tired and then you got to do like
fifty yards down you go back to running it. Well running, Yeah,
but when you're sprinting saying anything, running sure, but running
is a part of the game, Like you have to
run at some point, but you're not running the ball
through the a gap, being like this sucks running with
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your teammate from lining the wind sprints and then you
got to do the fifty of the forty, the thirty. Yeah,
and your exhausted people are throwing up.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
You're hot. It's late in the day. Yeah, so out
on that. Okay, all right, I'm going to give you
this mouth guard break in. Oh my goodness, hot mold.
I could still feel it on my lips, like the
of it.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I love that. I like the hot.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
That's a good breaking I actually like really yeah, I
like I hate it when the mouth.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Guard got gross, got gross.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
I always butterflied at the end from like yeah not
so much. Yeah, take it into your your face mask, man,
that was the word.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
But I would get like the top of my lips
because maybe I didn't form it correctly. Like that would
always be you.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Guys did the where you'd stick it into boiling water, right, yeah,
bring it out.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
And then have it mold to your teeth. Yeah. Back
when we practice, who needed water breaks? The no water? Yeah,
I was like you had to earn getting a drink.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
That was Howard Stellenberger, Right, So I got fired. Oklahoma.
They had preseason practice in Oklahoma, no water.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
We know better now in Oklahoma. Man, all right, Sam,
back to you. I'm gonna go running.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
No, let's go going up against in practice two former Hawkeyes,
one of which was the state of Iowa, was class
for a Gatorade Player of the Year.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
It was not fun to compete against that. Man. We
all went through that.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm sure mine. Mine is so simple. Fun football guy.
Always guys always hitting each other when you don't need to.
It's like it's just like, yeah, the hitting each other
in the back, the extra yeah, all the extra stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
You're like, dude, what are you doing? It's football?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Football, Like, no headbutting me just because you tackled somebody
Else's not part of football. Now, I'm concussed, all right,
last one, Jace do what he got.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Nineteen eighties coaches that had no line when it came
to humiliating you.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
That's game time.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
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