August 5, 2024 • 28 mins
Doug riffs about Pat Mahomes being ranked as the 4th best player in the NFL by his own peers. Doug welcomes the Athletic's Zack Rosenblatt onto the pod to break down Jets' Training Camp. Doug reacts to Colin Cowherd's take about Michigan football. Plus, Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, this is the Doug gottlie Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Years in the Bonus with Doug gottlie.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
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Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So there's a.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
NFL poll of NFL players on who the best player
is in the NFL and Lamar Jackson is at two
and Pat Mahomes is at four. And listen, I always
say you can't fool players, but there is some context
that's needed, right, So I think we all see Lamar
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and think he's got freaky, otherworldly talent. But for Pat
Mahomes to have all of these Super Bowls and Super
Bowl wins and Lamar Jackson has what two playoff wins
in his career to go along with two MVPs, now
that one's kind of hard to factor because what it sat,
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what it says is either the Baltimore Ravens aren't very
good as a team or the Baltimore Ravens are poorly coached,
and I don't think either is true. And yet Lamar
Jackson hasn't had great success in the postseason despite the
fact that he's had one of the best ranked defenses.
Tyreek Hill at number one isn't crazy from this standpoint.
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I've told you guys before. I remember going to going
to that Dolphins Chargers game a year and a half
ago and telling people Tyreek Hill is so much better
than everybody else, so much faster than everybody else in
the field. It's crazy how much he affects the game.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So I feel like these.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Rankings are about talent, not about actual production or about
actual value, which is fine, but it also is a snapshot.
It shows you what kind of athletes think. Whereas Pat
Mahomes says, all he's done is win, He's been no
less than the championship game every year he's been the
starting quarterback with the Chiefs. Ranking him anywhere other than
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first or second to me makes the rest of your
list devoid of any sort of legitimacy. But I think
it shows just how little talent actually matters once you
get to the postseason. Because if Tyreek Hill and if
Lamar Jackson are better than Pat Mahomes, their results at
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some point should be somewhere in the neighborhood of Pat Mahomes,
and they're not, which means either or massively overvaluing how
good they are, or we're actually ranking their talent, and
talent doesn't actually matter if you can't produce in the
key moments, and Pat Mahomes can produce in those moments,
where as Lamar Jackson cannot. Of not making sense there,
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it made sense in my head.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
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Speaker 3 (03:02):
Hey Mix to Welcome to any Zach Rosenblandi covers the
New York Jets for the Athletic He joins in the
Doug gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio and Zack
it's really interesting, you know, you cover a team that
is one of the most discussed in an NFL, especially
over the past two years with Aaron Rodgers. But all
we see is we hear the commentary, we see the clips.
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We don't know what it's like on a daily basis, obviously,
How how could we How would you describe this year's
camp so far for the Jets.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, I think at a baseline, like Aaron Rodgers is
just clearly still Aaron Rodgers in terms of his ability
to throw the ball. In all that, I think there
have been some adjustments in term of you know, the
center having some trouble snapping the ball. I think there's
been no few too many false stars, guys getting used
to his cadence. The receivers have been in and out
of the lineup, so there's still a lot of questions
on offense, I think, But ultimately, like Aaron Rodgers is
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just light years ahead of anybody. They've had a quarterback
for a long time, and you could think what you
want about him. And I know a lot of people
make fun of the Jets for how they've catered to him,
but like, if you look at their history at quarterback,
it's hard to blame them ultimately, and then you watch
them on the practice field, and obviously that's where he's
gonna shine. You know, this is one of the most
accurate quarterbacks of all time. So he looks great in
practice for the most part. You know, there's been some
bad days like today, but yeah, you know, I mean,
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if he's healthy, then their offense is obviously going to
be better than last year, which I know isn't saying much,
but it should be better.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, I mean, he only played four plays. There was
there was question marks about the offensive line before they
ever took a snap and then he lasted four stamps.
How is the line better this year?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
You know, on paper, it's one of the more talented
lines they've had in a long time. You know, they
go and get Tyron Smith, who was you know, an
All Pro for thirteen years at the Cowboys, that traded
for Morgan Moses. Just a solid veteran sign, John Simpson,
you know, Joe Timan in the second year, and they
bring back Elijah ark Talker. That's like a solid five.
But they have a lot of health questions. You know
Tyron Smith, you know, he has to take veteran rest
days even just to get through camp and get through
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the season. He was on a practice plan with the
Cowboys last year and so he missed missed last three
practices just from like getting rest. And you know, Morgan
Moses missed most of camp up until this point. He
finally returned, but he's coming off factoral surgery and Elijah
ark Tucker's coming off Achilles surgery. So they have a
lot of questions, like there's these are guys they need
to stay healthy and if they don't, then it's going
to be a bad group again. But you know, if
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they can stay healthy. This is a talented group. I think.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The big news outside of Aaron Rodgers is Son Reddick
being holding out. Yeah, but I mean the defense was
everything to that team last year and the offense was
just don't lose us the game, especially after Aaron got hurt.
How has that affected the team if any, defensively through camp.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
You know, it's interesting, you know, I think they were
banking on Hassan Reddick quite a bit to be a
really important difference maker on their defense because they traded
away John Franklin Myers, they let Bryce hofwalk and free agency,
and so Hasan Reddick was going to come in and
take a lot of the snaps. He hasn't played a
single snap and practice at the team yet. So you've
had them kind of like, you know, trying to see
if Bill McDonald, their first round pick last year, is
ready to take a leap. And he's been competing for
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reps with the guy who was a fourth round pick
in twenty twenty two in Michael Clemons. Right, I don't
think either of them have looked particularly impressive. So I think,
you know, they really do need An Reddick. I think
he knows that, which is a reason part of the
reason why he's been holding out. You know, they trade
away all these guys, and he wants more money, and
so it's become a little awkward because the team knows
they need him, he knows they need him, but they
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also don't want to negotiate with him until he reports
for camp, and so they're kind of in this game
of chicken right now, and we're going to find out
to see who gives in first.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Overall, the defense better or worse than last.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Year, you know, I mean, I think by some metrics
they were either the best defense or a top three
defense last year, So I don't I think that's a
pretty hard stam to live up too. I still think
this is a top ten defense, but I think Hassan
Redick is going to be a big reason whether why
this team is either better or worse on defense. And
so if he doesn't get in the rum or if
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he doesn't play like you with the Eagles, I have
some questions. But I do think talent wise and even
just on the practice field, they've been beating the offense
most days.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Like this looks like one of the best defenses in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Still, last year, they start out with just this ridiculous
start to the schedule this year. You start out at
at San Francisco but in the opening game, but then
the Titans that are kind of rebuilding, the Patriots who
stunk last year, the Broncos who weren't very good last year,
before you go to the Vikings and the Bills. It
feels like there's much greater opportunity for this team to
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get off to a hot start this year than last year's.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Is that fair zech Yeah, I think it's fair. In
terms of the opponents, absolutely, I agree with you. I
do think you know, they're playing like three games in
eleven days to start the season for a team that
you know, trying to keep Aaron healthy and has these
offensive linemen that arn't practicing every day. I had some
concerns about that aspect. But like in terms of like
the first three teams, they're facing, the forty nine ers
obviously a tough one, but they have no reason why
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they should not beat the Titans. They should no reason
why they should not beat the Patriots. If you start
two and one, you feel pretty good. But if you
get off those close started, things can start to get
a little harder. As the schedule progresses. He played the
Vikings in London, you got a few harder games on
the schedule, so I think that first three game stretch
is gonna be pretty crucial to see how this team
does this year.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Outside of the position battles, we talked about what's the
most interesting position battle taking place in camp?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
The most interesting position battle taking place? That's an interesting one.
You know, I'd say a wide receiver. You know, with
Mike Williams out and who knows for how long he's
not going to be activated, and even when he's activated,
he's not going to be completely healthy. So you're seeing
Alan Lazard, you know, a veteran guy, and you're seeing
a young guy in Jason Brownlee who they liked last year.
Is that undrafted rookie. I think those guys are going
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to be competing for the reps to be Mike Williams
is whether it's the top backup, someone who spells him,
or someone who can play with him. And so al
Lazard's had a pretty good camp considering he was one
of the bigger disappointments in the league last year. But
the team is also very high on Jason Brownlee, So
I say I'm intrigued by those two guys going at it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
If you had your guess, your guess, guess, how does
this team do this year?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah? You know, educated guest, you know, you know. If
we're just assuming that Aaron stays healthy for most of
the season, I think this should be a ten win team.
I think that would be their base fine expectation. I
think they have a lot of questions to answer terms
of coaching and some of their injuries, but I think
this should be a ten win team.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Zach, you're the best man. Hey, listen, really appreciate you
stepping away from camp give us a ton of time.
It's an interesting team. It's an off discuss team, and
yet one in which we don't dig into the kind
of the granuar level the way you do with the
athletic We appreciate you joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yeah, thanks for having me, Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Let's let's get to the Fox Said, and now.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What FU Say.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about noelh Lyles being the fastest
man on Earth.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Noel Liles thinks that he has got the silver. He
doesn't think he won the gold medal. He in fact
congratulates Kaushane Thompson, saying you got a big dog, and
then all of a sudden he realizes, but just the narrowest,
narrowest of margins. They said it's the closest one hundred
meter final since at least Moscow in nineteen eighty. Does
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it resonate the way it used to though, fastest man
in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I'm watching it and I normally that was must see
TV for me growing up, the fastest man in the world.
I don't know how many people realized yesterday who the
fastest man in the world is and has been.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
In Noah Lloles, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Usain Bolt casts such a large shadow over that event
that it almost feels like, yeah, but how would have
he had done against Husain Bolt? I mean, it's not
fair to him. I just don't know if it resonates
the way it once did. You're the fastest man in
the world because we knew who those people were, knew
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and it was a big deal. I don't know if
it's the same, but it's just like the heavyweight champ
of the world. It's just not the same the way
it used to be.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I thought it was a great race, the difference between
first and last. I just I saw somebody tweet it out.
I tweeted out without the video. If you ever heard
Jerry Seinfeld's bit on the one hundred meters dash in
the Olympics where he's like greatest guy in the world,
never heard of him, just all by leading your head back,
that was an amazing race.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I still don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Why the head and torso is above that of the foot,
but I could have watched that race ten times over.
I still I've watched that at least fifteen times, and
I'm still impressed by it. I am impressed by not
just not Noah Lyles come back and winning, the competitiveness
to win, but also in how many guys were within
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the you know, less than a hundreds of a second
of each other. Here's Brady Quinn Leavar Arrington talking about
John Gruden coaching at Chiefs training camp.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Surprising, but not so much when you actually look at
the track record and history between Andy Reid, the head
coach for the Chiefs and John Gruden. They actually coached
back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in Green Bay
in the nineteen nineties. So when you take into account that,
it kind of makes some sense. But as well regarded, I.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Think it was a scapegoat situation with John Gruten for
what was going on in Washington, which is interesting how
everything kind of panned out and played out and whatever
side people fall on on the fallout of the emails
getting released and some of the information that became, you know,
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public knowledge about John Gruden.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
People and noted both black and white and you know
other that have spoke very, very glowingly of John Grutin
and who he is and disputing the fact that he
should be judged and measured and weighed by being, you
know what, people considered him to be a racist. As
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far as professionally speaking, I think his resume speaks for
itself obviously.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I agree. I mean, like where we supposed topeak,
Like when you get fired for something, it is I
don't believe in double jeopardy, right, you fire for something
that doesn't mean your whole career is over. So what
are we doing he's not allowed to help coach. He's
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a master coach. He's like a master clinician. He's basically
like a Jeffan Gundy, only jeff N. Gundy didn't win
in the NBA finals and he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I think there's plenty of other people that have created
that have had more heinous crimes than what John Gruden did.
Do I like the language used emails, No, but it
did feel like in Theanderthal and some of those emails
were dated back to when some of that language was
more acceptable in the locker room than it is now.
Here's Colin Cowher talking about Michigan football.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
The truth is, I'm told to be outraged by pot
and sports gambling, and I never am, because if I
wanted to smoke pot, not saying I ever did, it
was always available. And if I wanted to bet with
a bookie, not saying I ever did, it was always available.
Stop screaming at clouds. The latest controversy the NCED Double A,
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and I defended Michigan all year on this. The NCED
Double A has obtained information that States investigators have seen
that Connor Stallions had scouted impermissibly scouted at least thirteen
Michigan opponents on fifty eight occasions, including once when he
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was on the Michigan State sideline the season opener, wearing
a bench pass and a disguise. I actually think that's funny.
I mean, I worry more about Michigan State Security. Some
guy walked up with a crooked fake mustache, dark sunglasses
on a cloudy day and gave the name Patty O Furniture,
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and they let him in. I'm not worried about Michigan.
I'm worried about Michigan State Security team.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I gotta be honest with you. I've never thought it
was a thing. I don't actually care. I think it's
really comical when SEC people, especially are or Ohio State
people are par clutchers when I'm sure they've done some
of the same stuff, and I just it doesn't bother me.
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. And
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if you're wondering about the timing of it, like this
is actually a fast paced for NCAA investigations that the
season is just concluded, I don't care, I don't care.
I'm sure they did it. They got caught they got punished.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
We move on.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's what the fox said. Say, let's find out what's
annoying Jason Stewart, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Hey, Doug.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
A lot of people don't know this person by name
Lee Duffy Weed Diffy we Diffy is the play by
play announcer for NBC for the track and field events.
And he called the I think it's the signature event
of his of his like category. Like if you're gonna
say track and field, you're gonna say, oh, of course,
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the one hundred meter dash. That's the signature event. That's
the hallmark, cornerstone of this guy's job.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And he did this.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
They said Olympic gold medal waiting for somebody. Everyone said
the most. Now Thompson starts to wind up. Kelly's going
with him. This is close. Jenny, get's gonna do it.
Kiss Shoan Thompson is a gold medalist.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Guess what he just ran nine point seven eight. There
was a lead at the take by Thompson. Visually, we
think you got it. They're working on the photo.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's news. I didn't have to go to a photo
finish to decide it.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Now, here's the issue I have with the lead Diffey. Okay,
So afterwards he kind of issued an apology, says he
got it wrong, but he also couched his language by seconds.
I was wrong by point zero zero zero five seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, you were fucking wrong.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
Now you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You blew it. You know you blew it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Sorry, go ahead, I keep going.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
No, that's my point. You're making my point, like even there,
you know, when he finally got around to announcing the winner,
said it took a photo finish, like he was trying
to make up for his complete bastardization of the call,
like this is the one call every four years. He
has to live with this for four more years, the
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one event, the one call that'll go down in history,
and you got it wrong. So it should just be
like this, I'm sorry. I should know. I'm a professional.
I should not say anything until I know for a fact,
as opposed to eyeballing human beings going twenty five miles
an hour or whatever the fuck they're running. Lee Diffy
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for the miss call and then the lack of sufficient
apology afterwards.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I feel for him because it's it's such a bang
bang deal and to the naked eye, originally it did
look it truly did look like the Jamaican guy won,
but it wasn't actually a very good call, to be
honest with you, Like, he didn't point out that the
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winner of the race came from dead last, right, there wasn't.
And it's nine point whatever seconds, it's less than ten seconds.
It's really fast. But and it's also a TV call,
so you don't have to explain everything. But man, he
didn't explain much, and then he butchered the call as well.
This is just one of those Hey, it was really fast.
(19:50):
I screwed it up. Yeah I missed. I apologize.
Speaker 10 (19:54):
You know who runs faster than humans?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Horses?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
I was doing some research this this weekend, and by
research it was a somebody had asked a bunch of
horse racing calls people that do this. I guess the
guy at sant Anita, I forget his name. Anyways, he's
like the pro of all probes. None of those guys
call the race on a photo finish. They have specific language.
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It's too close to call, and then you wait it out.
So horses run faster, and that's an even tougher one
to call. That's why you say, wait it up, Draymond Green.
He's not on the Olympic team, and he is just
the last and a long line of people to criticize
his own, his own NBA coach Steve Kerr for the
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Jason Tatum thing. We're still talking about this eight days
later and.
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Then jt come out and not play. I couldn't believe it.
But in not playing him it was wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
We all know it was wrong. He should play. He
did it. What I don't like about it is now
to me, it feels like.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
Like a cover in my tracks, like proving a point
and type thing to where like, oh now Joel's out
of the lineup, and then today Drew didn't play. So
I totally disagree with that. And as I said, just
from the outside looking in, it just comes off as
like we made a mistake as a coaching staff, as
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opposed to just the mistake that we made.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is what it is and moving on. You know,
I'm combat it with all right now, this guy ain't playing.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
So my read on this whole thing, given you your
take on it, and you've been real consistent on this,
My read on it was Steve Kerr should have never
said I'm an idiot. Now I know we've replayed it
in contexts last week and it makes a little more sense,
but not really. He had settled before the game that
he wasn't gonna play. But again, Steve Kerr saying I'm
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an idiot or a felt idiotic or whatever kind of
welcomed all of this criticism, I think, and maybe Draymond,
like myself and a lot of people, just haven't heard
the quote in full context as we played it last week.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, here would be the thing though with that, is
how come Draymond has doesn't have the ability to pick
up the phone and call Steve. He's literally his coach.
This is where, this is where, And I'm gonna be
honest with you. I'm gonna blame Colin on this one. Okay.
He works for the volume as much as Colin, you know, like,
let's guys do their thing, you know. He he doesn't
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you know, overmanage whatever. All that stuff is great, grand fine, whatever.
The the the reality to it, okay, the reality to
it is that Colin needs to tell Draymond or some
Draymond worked for two media companies. I worked for two
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media companies. He worked for TNT and he works for
or the volume. I neither have said, like, hey, dude,
all you got to do is pick up the phone
and call those guys and ask them what the deal is.
He shouldn't be on the outside looking in. He should
be on the inside looking in. That's my biggest issue
is he's acting. He's acting like this is somebody he
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doesn't know, like, hey man, I'm just looking at it.
It looks like, wait, no, that's us. You just Tex
Steve Kerr, see what's the deal? And he would say
this is the plan all along. Can't play twelve, guys,
I want to play ten, maybe sneak in eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So, I just.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I thought it was overcompensating to start him, but he's
actually remained consistent with it, where he didn't play Joel
embiid a fucking league MVP that he didn't play Drew
and oh yeah, by the way, he's brought Kad off
the bench every game even though his play dictates that
he should be a starter, because that's again his plan,
and Katie was aligned with that plan. Well, I just
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think it's embarrassing from Raymond that he doesn't call his
own cod you go, hey, what's the deal here?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What else?
Speaker 10 (24:03):
So the pole vaulter, I don't have his name.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Maybe Sam knows his name.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
The police walter, who's junk?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Who's junk?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Caught the pole?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (24:12):
I have?
Speaker 10 (24:12):
I have several issues with this, and these are bigger
than you're junk. Okay, So that's one of the things.
Is the low hanging fruit on Twitter about this? Many
of them I laughed at. So I'm not saying I
am exempt from the sophomore kumor maybe my favorite being
that pole vaulting is really a game of inches. That
was a good one. I don't know who wrote that,
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but uh, that's fine. The sophomore cumor that that was
I saw that coming. But this is a guy who
pull vaults. He's probably done what one hundred thousand jumps.
He's been in many meets, many events. You would think
that at some way along the way, the trainer or
somebody would be like, hey, the last thing you ever
want to do is have your dick get in the
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way of a metal Like when I coach baseball, I
all I'll always remember this from my playing days. Never
make the first or third out at third base. Never
make the first or third out at third base. I
think in pole vaulting it should be never let your
half erected penis lose you a metal. And by half erected,
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I mean it looks like he has kind of a
half chubb. All of us who have a penis, women
are excluded from this because you don't have a penis.
There's there's only one way that that thing bounces off
of the poll when when when it goes over like that,
there's only one way. ALYMP penis would never do that.
ALYMP penis would not make that kind of an impact.
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But a half erected penis that when the torque showed
its you know, showed its full capacity, it bounced back
and was like bouncing up and down. That's an erection.
So does he is he turned on by his own
pole vaulting? Is there not the equivalent of a sports
bra for pole vaulters a penis brawl? Strap that thing down,
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put some duct tape around it. If you have a
large penis, you could strap it down your leg. How
could your penis prevent you ever from winning a medal?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Well, I just didn't. I mean it was some low
hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
What else?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (26:31):
Paul Valter Draymond Green, and we diffy.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh I'm gonna go Draymond Green just because the whole
idea that he's an outsider when Steve Kerr is his
actual coach is fucking comical to me.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It's the very basics of doing your job is if
you have a question about it, you can still disagree
with Steve hers philosophy. But he's sitting there asking and oh,
he's just taking the I watched the game, So here's
what I think. When the guys your coach, you can't
send him a text and ask him a question, you know. Uh,
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that is incredibly annoying.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
That's a nice.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I always want to find something for because we can,
because it's fun. The listeners love it.
Speaker 12 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
But I just couldn't find the uncensored version of this.
Jalen Johnson was asked what he thought of being left
off of the top one hundred on this ranking that
had Tyreek Hill as number one. Jalen Johnson is a
pro Bowl and a all pro I think for the
Bears corner, and he plainly says it's bullshit. Jalen Johnson Today,
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because we Cam we featured Jalen Johnson saying it's bullshit
to him being left off the top one hundred players.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Do we know how to sound?
Speaker 10 (28:11):
No, I couldn't find it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh okay, Uh, well it is bullshit. It is He
was a first team All Pro, isn't he? He's All
Pro cornerback, maybe a second All Pro cornerback, not on
the on the top one hundred list.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The whole list is a fucking joke. I mean, Lamar
Jackson ahead of Pat Mahomes, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But why can we Why can we tell you that
that quote? Because we can't. That's it for the end
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Welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So there's a.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
NFL poll of NFL players on who the best player
is in the NFL and Lamar Jackson is at two
and Pat Mahomes is at four. And listen, I always
say you can't fool players, but there is some context
that's needed, right, So I think we all see Lamar
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and think he's got freaky, otherworldly talent. But for Pat
Mahomes to have all of these Super Bowls and Super
Bowl wins and Lamar Jackson has what two playoff wins
in his career to go along with two MVPs, now
that one's kind of hard to factor because what it sat,
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what it says is either the Baltimore Ravens aren't very
good as a team or the Baltimore Ravens are poorly coached,
and I don't think either is true. And yet Lamar
Jackson hasn't had great success in the postseason despite the
fact that he's had one of the best ranked defenses.
Tyreek Hill at number one isn't crazy from this standpoint.
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I've told you guys before. I remember going to going
to that Dolphins Chargers game a year and a half
ago and telling people Tyreek Hill is so much better
than everybody else, so much faster than everybody else in
the field. It's crazy how much he affects the game.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So I feel like these.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Rankings are about talent, not about actual production or about
actual value, which is fine, but it also is a snapshot.
It shows you what kind of athletes think. Whereas Pat
Mahomes says, all he's done is win, He's been no
less than the championship game every year he's been the
starting quarterback with the Chiefs. Ranking him anywhere other than
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first or second to me makes the rest of your
list devoid of any sort of legitimacy. But I think
it shows just how little talent actually matters once you
get to the postseason. Because if Tyreek Hill and if
Lamar Jackson are better than Pat Mahomes, their results at
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some point should be somewhere in the neighborhood of Pat Mahomes,
and they're not, which means either or massively overvaluing how
good they are, or we're actually ranking their talent, and
talent doesn't actually matter if you can't produce in the
key moments, and Pat Mahomes can produce in those moments,
where as Lamar Jackson cannot. Of not making sense there,
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it made sense in my head.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
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Speaker 3 (03:02):
Hey Mix to Welcome to any Zach Rosenblandi covers the
New York Jets for the Athletic He joins in the
Doug gotlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio and Zack
it's really interesting, you know, you cover a team that
is one of the most discussed in an NFL, especially
over the past two years with Aaron Rodgers. But all
we see is we hear the commentary, we see the clips.
(03:25):
We don't know what it's like on a daily basis, obviously,
How how could we How would you describe this year's
camp so far for the Jets.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Yeah, I think at a baseline, like Aaron Rodgers is
just clearly still Aaron Rodgers in terms of his ability
to throw the ball. In all that, I think there
have been some adjustments in term of you know, the
center having some trouble snapping the ball. I think there's
been no few too many false stars, guys getting used
to his cadence. The receivers have been in and out
of the lineup, so there's still a lot of questions
on offense, I think, But ultimately, like Aaron Rodgers is
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just light years ahead of anybody. They've had a quarterback
for a long time, and you could think what you
want about him. And I know a lot of people
make fun of the Jets for how they've catered to him,
but like, if you look at their history at quarterback,
it's hard to blame them ultimately, and then you watch
them on the practice field, and obviously that's where he's
gonna shine. You know, this is one of the most
accurate quarterbacks of all time. So he looks great in
practice for the most part. You know, there's been some
bad days like today, but yeah, you know, I mean,
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if he's healthy, then their offense is obviously going to
be better than last year, which I know isn't saying much,
but it should be better.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, I mean, he only played four plays. There was
there was question marks about the offensive line before they
ever took a snap and then he lasted four stamps.
How is the line better this year?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
You know, on paper, it's one of the more talented
lines they've had in a long time. You know, they
go and get Tyron Smith, who was you know, an
All Pro for thirteen years at the Cowboys, that traded
for Morgan Moses. Just a solid veteran sign, John Simpson,
you know, Joe Timan in the second year, and they
bring back Elijah ark Talker. That's like a solid five.
But they have a lot of health questions. You know
Tyron Smith, you know, he has to take veteran rest
days even just to get through camp and get through
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the season. He was on a practice plan with the
Cowboys last year and so he missed missed last three
practices just from like getting rest. And you know, Morgan
Moses missed most of camp up until this point. He
finally returned, but he's coming off factoral surgery and Elijah
ark Tucker's coming off Achilles surgery. So they have a
lot of questions, like there's these are guys they need
to stay healthy and if they don't, then it's going
to be a bad group again. But you know, if
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they can stay healthy. This is a talented group. I think.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The big news outside of Aaron Rodgers is Son Reddick
being holding out. Yeah, but I mean the defense was
everything to that team last year and the offense was
just don't lose us the game, especially after Aaron got hurt.
How has that affected the team if any, defensively through camp.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
You know, it's interesting, you know, I think they were
banking on Hassan Reddick quite a bit to be a
really important difference maker on their defense because they traded
away John Franklin Myers, they let Bryce hofwalk and free agency,
and so Hasan Reddick was going to come in and
take a lot of the snaps. He hasn't played a
single snap and practice at the team yet. So you've
had them kind of like, you know, trying to see
if Bill McDonald, their first round pick last year, is
ready to take a leap. And he's been competing for
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reps with the guy who was a fourth round pick
in twenty twenty two in Michael Clemons. Right, I don't
think either of them have looked particularly impressive. So I think,
you know, they really do need An Reddick. I think
he knows that, which is a reason part of the
reason why he's been holding out. You know, they trade
away all these guys, and he wants more money, and
so it's become a little awkward because the team knows
they need him, he knows they need him, but they
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also don't want to negotiate with him until he reports
for camp, and so they're kind of in this game
of chicken right now, and we're going to find out
to see who gives in first.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Overall, the defense better or worse than last.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Year, you know, I mean, I think by some metrics
they were either the best defense or a top three
defense last year, So I don't I think that's a
pretty hard stam to live up too. I still think
this is a top ten defense, but I think Hassan
Redick is going to be a big reason whether why
this team is either better or worse on defense. And
so if he doesn't get in the rum or if
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he doesn't play like you with the Eagles, I have
some questions. But I do think talent wise and even
just on the practice field, they've been beating the offense
most days.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Like this looks like one of the best defenses in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Still, last year, they start out with just this ridiculous
start to the schedule this year. You start out at
at San Francisco but in the opening game, but then
the Titans that are kind of rebuilding, the Patriots who
stunk last year, the Broncos who weren't very good last year,
before you go to the Vikings and the Bills. It
feels like there's much greater opportunity for this team to
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get off to a hot start this year than last year's.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Is that fair zech Yeah, I think it's fair. In
terms of the opponents, absolutely, I agree with you. I
do think you know, they're playing like three games in
eleven days to start the season for a team that
you know, trying to keep Aaron healthy and has these
offensive linemen that arn't practicing every day. I had some
concerns about that aspect. But like in terms of like
the first three teams, they're facing, the forty nine ers
obviously a tough one, but they have no reason why
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they should not beat the Titans. They should no reason
why they should not beat the Patriots. If you start
two and one, you feel pretty good. But if you
get off those close started, things can start to get
a little harder. As the schedule progresses. He played the
Vikings in London, you got a few harder games on
the schedule, so I think that first three game stretch
is gonna be pretty crucial to see how this team
does this year.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Outside of the position battles, we talked about what's the
most interesting position battle taking place in camp?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
The most interesting position battle taking place? That's an interesting one.
You know, I'd say a wide receiver. You know, with
Mike Williams out and who knows for how long he's
not going to be activated, and even when he's activated,
he's not going to be completely healthy. So you're seeing
Alan Lazard, you know, a veteran guy, and you're seeing
a young guy in Jason Brownlee who they liked last year.
Is that undrafted rookie. I think those guys are going
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to be competing for the reps to be Mike Williams
is whether it's the top backup, someone who spells him,
or someone who can play with him. And so al
Lazard's had a pretty good camp considering he was one
of the bigger disappointments in the league last year. But
the team is also very high on Jason Brownlee, So
I say I'm intrigued by those two guys going at it.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
If you had your guess, your guess, guess, how does
this team do this year?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah? You know, educated guest, you know, you know. If
we're just assuming that Aaron stays healthy for most of
the season, I think this should be a ten win team.
I think that would be their base fine expectation. I
think they have a lot of questions to answer terms
of coaching and some of their injuries, but I think
this should be a ten win team.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Zach, you're the best man. Hey, listen, really appreciate you
stepping away from camp give us a ton of time.
It's an interesting team. It's an off discuss team, and
yet one in which we don't dig into the kind
of the granuar level the way you do with the
athletic We appreciate you joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yeah, thanks for having me, Doug.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb
Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox
Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Let's let's get to the Fox Said, and now.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What FU Say.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Here's Dan Patrick talking about noelh Lyles being the fastest
man on Earth.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Noel Liles thinks that he has got the silver. He
doesn't think he won the gold medal. He in fact
congratulates Kaushane Thompson, saying you got a big dog, and
then all of a sudden he realizes, but just the narrowest,
narrowest of margins. They said it's the closest one hundred
meter final since at least Moscow in nineteen eighty. Does
(10:20):
it resonate the way it used to though, fastest man
in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I'm watching it and I normally that was must see
TV for me growing up, the fastest man in the world.
I don't know how many people realized yesterday who the
fastest man in the world is and has been.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
In Noah Lloles, it's weird.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Usain Bolt casts such a large shadow over that event
that it almost feels like, yeah, but how would have
he had done against Husain Bolt? I mean, it's not
fair to him. I just don't know if it resonates
the way it once did. You're the fastest man in
the world because we knew who those people were, knew
(11:01):
and it was a big deal. I don't know if
it's the same, but it's just like the heavyweight champ
of the world. It's just not the same the way
it used to be.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I thought it was a great race, the difference between
first and last. I just I saw somebody tweet it out.
I tweeted out without the video. If you ever heard
Jerry Seinfeld's bit on the one hundred meters dash in
the Olympics where he's like greatest guy in the world,
never heard of him, just all by leading your head back,
that was an amazing race.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I still don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Why the head and torso is above that of the foot,
but I could have watched that race ten times over.
I still I've watched that at least fifteen times, and
I'm still impressed by it. I am impressed by not
just not Noah Lyles come back and winning, the competitiveness
to win, but also in how many guys were within
(11:58):
the you know, less than a hundreds of a second
of each other. Here's Brady Quinn Leavar Arrington talking about
John Gruden coaching at Chiefs training camp.
Speaker 8 (12:05):
Surprising, but not so much when you actually look at
the track record and history between Andy Reid, the head
coach for the Chiefs and John Gruden. They actually coached
back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in Green Bay
in the nineteen nineties. So when you take into account that,
it kind of makes some sense. But as well regarded, I.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Think it was a scapegoat situation with John Gruten for
what was going on in Washington, which is interesting how
everything kind of panned out and played out and whatever
side people fall on on the fallout of the emails
getting released and some of the information that became, you know,
(12:49):
public knowledge about John Gruden.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
People and noted both black and white and you know
other that have spoke very, very glowingly of John Grutin
and who he is and disputing the fact that he
should be judged and measured and weighed by being, you
know what, people considered him to be a racist. As
(13:19):
far as professionally speaking, I think his resume speaks for
itself obviously.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, I agree. I mean, like where we supposed topeak,
Like when you get fired for something, it is I
don't believe in double jeopardy, right, you fire for something
that doesn't mean your whole career is over. So what
are we doing he's not allowed to help coach. He's
(13:48):
a master coach. He's like a master clinician. He's basically
like a Jeffan Gundy, only jeff N. Gundy didn't win
in the NBA finals and he won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I think there's plenty of other people that have created
that have had more heinous crimes than what John Gruden did.
Do I like the language used emails, No, but it
did feel like in Theanderthal and some of those emails
were dated back to when some of that language was
more acceptable in the locker room than it is now.
Here's Colin Cowher talking about Michigan football.
Speaker 9 (14:20):
The truth is, I'm told to be outraged by pot
and sports gambling, and I never am, because if I
wanted to smoke pot, not saying I ever did, it
was always available. And if I wanted to bet with
a bookie, not saying I ever did, it was always available.
Stop screaming at clouds. The latest controversy the NCED Double A,
(14:44):
and I defended Michigan all year on this. The NCED
Double A has obtained information that States investigators have seen
that Connor Stallions had scouted impermissibly scouted at least thirteen
Michigan opponents on fifty eight occasions, including once when he
(15:09):
was on the Michigan State sideline the season opener, wearing
a bench pass and a disguise. I actually think that's funny.
I mean, I worry more about Michigan State Security. Some
guy walked up with a crooked fake mustache, dark sunglasses
on a cloudy day and gave the name Patty O Furniture,
(15:32):
and they let him in. I'm not worried about Michigan.
I'm worried about Michigan State Security team.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
I gotta be honest with you. I've never thought it
was a thing. I don't actually care. I think it's
really comical when SEC people, especially are or Ohio State
people are par clutchers when I'm sure they've done some
of the same stuff, and I just it doesn't bother me.
I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. And
(16:03):
if you're wondering about the timing of it, like this
is actually a fast paced for NCAA investigations that the
season is just concluded, I don't care, I don't care.
I'm sure they did it. They got caught they got punished.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
We move on.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's what the fox said. Say, let's find out what's
annoying Jason Stewart, and now it's your annoying.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Hey, Doug.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
A lot of people don't know this person by name
Lee Duffy Weed Diffy we Diffy is the play by
play announcer for NBC for the track and field events.
And he called the I think it's the signature event
of his of his like category. Like if you're gonna
say track and field, you're gonna say, oh, of course,
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the one hundred meter dash. That's the signature event. That's
the hallmark, cornerstone of this guy's job.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
And he did this.
Speaker 11 (17:06):
They said Olympic gold medal waiting for somebody. Everyone said
the most. Now Thompson starts to wind up. Kelly's going
with him. This is close. Jenny, get's gonna do it.
Kiss Shoan Thompson is a gold medalist.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Guess what he just ran nine point seven eight. There
was a lead at the take by Thompson. Visually, we
think you got it. They're working on the photo.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
It's news. I didn't have to go to a photo
finish to decide it.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
Now, here's the issue I have with the lead Diffey. Okay,
So afterwards he kind of issued an apology, says he
got it wrong, but he also couched his language by seconds.
I was wrong by point zero zero zero five seconds.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
No, you were fucking wrong.
Speaker 10 (18:03):
Now you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
You're wrong.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You blew it. You know you blew it.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Sorry, go ahead, I keep going.
Speaker 10 (18:11):
No, that's my point. You're making my point, like even there,
you know, when he finally got around to announcing the winner,
said it took a photo finish, like he was trying
to make up for his complete bastardization of the call,
like this is the one call every four years. He
has to live with this for four more years, the
(18:34):
one event, the one call that'll go down in history,
and you got it wrong. So it should just be
like this, I'm sorry. I should know. I'm a professional.
I should not say anything until I know for a fact,
as opposed to eyeballing human beings going twenty five miles
an hour or whatever the fuck they're running. Lee Diffy
(18:58):
for the miss call and then the lack of sufficient
apology afterwards.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
I feel for him because it's it's such a bang
bang deal and to the naked eye, originally it did
look it truly did look like the Jamaican guy won,
but it wasn't actually a very good call, to be
honest with you, Like, he didn't point out that the
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winner of the race came from dead last, right, there wasn't.
And it's nine point whatever seconds, it's less than ten seconds.
It's really fast. But and it's also a TV call,
so you don't have to explain everything. But man, he
didn't explain much, and then he butchered the call as well.
This is just one of those Hey, it was really fast.
(19:50):
I screwed it up. Yeah I missed. I apologize.
Speaker 10 (19:54):
You know who runs faster than humans?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Horses?
Speaker 10 (19:59):
I was doing some research this this weekend, and by
research it was a somebody had asked a bunch of
horse racing calls people that do this. I guess the
guy at sant Anita, I forget his name. Anyways, he's
like the pro of all probes. None of those guys
call the race on a photo finish. They have specific language.
(20:20):
It's too close to call, and then you wait it out.
So horses run faster, and that's an even tougher one
to call. That's why you say, wait it up, Draymond Green.
He's not on the Olympic team, and he is just
the last and a long line of people to criticize
his own, his own NBA coach Steve Kerr for the
(20:43):
Jason Tatum thing. We're still talking about this eight days
later and.
Speaker 12 (20:48):
Then jt come out and not play. I couldn't believe it.
But in not playing him it was wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
We all know it was wrong. He should play. He
did it. What I don't like about it is now
to me, it feels like.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
Like a cover in my tracks, like proving a point
and type thing to where like, oh now Joel's out
of the lineup, and then today Drew didn't play. So
I totally disagree with that. And as I said, just
from the outside looking in, it just comes off as
like we made a mistake as a coaching staff, as
(21:27):
opposed to just the mistake that we made.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
This is what it is and moving on. You know,
I'm combat it with all right now, this guy ain't playing.
Speaker 10 (21:35):
So my read on this whole thing, given you your
take on it, and you've been real consistent on this,
My read on it was Steve Kerr should have never
said I'm an idiot. Now I know we've replayed it
in contexts last week and it makes a little more sense,
but not really. He had settled before the game that
he wasn't gonna play. But again, Steve Kerr saying I'm
(21:58):
an idiot or a felt idiotic or whatever kind of
welcomed all of this criticism, I think, and maybe Draymond,
like myself and a lot of people, just haven't heard
the quote in full context as we played it last week.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Well, here would be the thing though with that, is
how come Draymond has doesn't have the ability to pick
up the phone and call Steve. He's literally his coach.
This is where, this is where, And I'm gonna be
honest with you. I'm gonna blame Colin on this one. Okay.
He works for the volume as much as Colin, you know, like,
let's guys do their thing, you know. He he doesn't
(22:35):
you know, overmanage whatever. All that stuff is great, grand fine, whatever.
The the the reality to it, okay, the reality to
it is that Colin needs to tell Draymond or some
Draymond worked for two media companies. I worked for two
(22:55):
media companies. He worked for TNT and he works for
or the volume. I neither have said, like, hey, dude,
all you got to do is pick up the phone
and call those guys and ask them what the deal is.
He shouldn't be on the outside looking in. He should
be on the inside looking in. That's my biggest issue
is he's acting. He's acting like this is somebody he
(23:16):
doesn't know, like, hey man, I'm just looking at it.
It looks like, wait, no, that's us. You just Tex
Steve Kerr, see what's the deal? And he would say
this is the plan all along. Can't play twelve, guys,
I want to play ten, maybe sneak in eleven.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
So, I just.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I thought it was overcompensating to start him, but he's
actually remained consistent with it, where he didn't play Joel
embiid a fucking league MVP that he didn't play Drew
and oh yeah, by the way, he's brought Kad off
the bench every game even though his play dictates that
he should be a starter, because that's again his plan,
and Katie was aligned with that plan. Well, I just
(23:57):
think it's embarrassing from Raymond that he doesn't call his
own cod you go, hey, what's the deal here?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
What else?
Speaker 10 (24:03):
So the pole vaulter, I don't have his name.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Maybe Sam knows his name.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
The police walter, who's junk?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Who's junk?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Caught the pole?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Correct?
Speaker 9 (24:12):
I have?
Speaker 10 (24:12):
I have several issues with this, and these are bigger
than you're junk. Okay, So that's one of the things.
Is the low hanging fruit on Twitter about this? Many
of them I laughed at. So I'm not saying I
am exempt from the sophomore kumor maybe my favorite being
that pole vaulting is really a game of inches. That
was a good one. I don't know who wrote that,
(24:34):
but uh, that's fine. The sophomore cumor that that was
I saw that coming. But this is a guy who
pull vaults. He's probably done what one hundred thousand jumps.
He's been in many meets, many events. You would think
that at some way along the way, the trainer or
somebody would be like, hey, the last thing you ever
want to do is have your dick get in the
(24:56):
way of a metal Like when I coach baseball, I
all I'll always remember this from my playing days. Never
make the first or third out at third base. Never
make the first or third out at third base. I
think in pole vaulting it should be never let your
half erected penis lose you a metal. And by half erected,
(25:17):
I mean it looks like he has kind of a
half chubb. All of us who have a penis, women
are excluded from this because you don't have a penis.
There's there's only one way that that thing bounces off
of the poll when when when it goes over like that,
there's only one way. ALYMP penis would never do that.
ALYMP penis would not make that kind of an impact.
(25:39):
But a half erected penis that when the torque showed
its you know, showed its full capacity, it bounced back
and was like bouncing up and down. That's an erection.
So does he is he turned on by his own
pole vaulting? Is there not the equivalent of a sports
bra for pole vaulters a penis brawl? Strap that thing down,
(26:02):
put some duct tape around it. If you have a
large penis, you could strap it down your leg. How
could your penis prevent you ever from winning a medal?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Well, I just didn't. I mean it was some low
hanging fruit.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
What else?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (26:31):
Paul Valter Draymond Green, and we diffy.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Oh I'm gonna go Draymond Green just because the whole
idea that he's an outsider when Steve Kerr is his
actual coach is fucking comical to me.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It's the very basics of doing your job is if
you have a question about it, you can still disagree
with Steve hers philosophy. But he's sitting there asking and oh,
he's just taking the I watched the game, So here's
what I think. When the guys your coach, you can't
send him a text and ask him a question, you know. Uh,
(27:13):
that is incredibly annoying.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
That's a nice.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Why are we doing this because we can?
Speaker 10 (27:28):
I always want to find something for because we can,
because it's fun. The listeners love it.
Speaker 12 (27:34):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
But I just couldn't find the uncensored version of this.
Jalen Johnson was asked what he thought of being left
off of the top one hundred on this ranking that
had Tyreek Hill as number one. Jalen Johnson is a
pro Bowl and a all pro I think for the
Bears corner, and he plainly says it's bullshit. Jalen Johnson Today,
(27:59):
because we Cam we featured Jalen Johnson saying it's bullshit
to him being left off the top one hundred players.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Do we know how to sound?
Speaker 10 (28:11):
No, I couldn't find it.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh okay, Uh, well it is bullshit. It is He
was a first team All Pro, isn't he? He's All
Pro cornerback, maybe a second All Pro cornerback, not on
the on the top one hundred list.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
The whole list is a fucking joke. I mean, Lamar
Jackson ahead of Pat Mahomes, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
What are we doing?
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But why can we Why can we tell you that
that quote? Because we can't. That's it for the end
the Modus podcast cast. Check out the radio show every
day thro read to five Eastern twelve too Pacific on
Fox Port trait of the iHeartRadio app. I'm Doug Gottlieb.
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Doug Gottlieb
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