August 6, 2024 • 38 mins
Doug talks about Team USA's quarterfinal game against Brazil and how Steve Kerr has been unfairly maligned during these Olympic games. Doug welcomes prolific podcaster John Middlekauff onto the show to talk about the Brandon Aiyuk situation, Tua Tagovailoa, and all of the other major headlines around the NFL. Plus, Isaac Lowenkron takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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I'm always torn in talking about countries and how you
pronounce their name, right, do you pronounce the name of
the way they want us to they pronounce their name
or the way we do, like do say France or
do you say France. It's like I've never understood stood
that we will say France and then yet when we're
talking about soccer, we'll talk about the pitch and kits
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and the other things that aren't American expressions. If we
do the American pronunciation of stuff, we do American pronunciation
of stuff. If you're gonna do the foreign pronunciation of stuff,
you gotta do the foreign pronunciation of everything. Yeah, Like
you can't just go into Mexico instead of Mexico and
then everything else you pronounce as a normal gringo white person.
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I'm making sense on this one, feel like I am.
I actually I know that I am. But here we are,
and Team USA is going to tip off against Brazil
and Steve Kerr still getting criticized for his rotations or whatever.
Whereas now you get Brazil, a team that's.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Not as strong as the rest, not as strong.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
As they've been, and you get kind of a one
game by before you probably get Serbia again, right, and
then you saw Canda lost to France. So it's all
setting up for USA France in the finals, which would
be amazing in Paris, amazing, you know, And like I
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told you, guys, I understand that the Canadian team on
paper had the best NBA players in comparison to everybody
else not named Team USA.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But it's not NBA style basketball.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's just not, never has been, never will be, and
I think it's amazing things really interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's like people keep being.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Critical of USA basketball and they haven't really been challenged
at all.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He's pushed all the right buttons.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It'd be one thing if they were struggling, but they're
not struggling, So why are we being.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Critical of it? Like doubt yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Back to every previous Olympics, even in the Redeemed Team era,
and they've been challenged by different teams. And I'm of
the belief that the game against Serbia in the Semis,
where I'm not saying they threw the first game, but
the first game they didn't make a ton of adjustments
and we hit every shot we threw like Kevin rant
literally couldn't play any better.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And it'll be different.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
They didn't play, you know, they didn't play the league's
three time MVP all that much. And when they did
it was an even game. So what do you think
they're gonna do? Right, Yo, Kisch is gonna play a
ton and will need MB to play better. And all
those people that have been rightfully critical of me to
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understand that he's being brought and kept on this trip
really for that one game, maybe even two. Can they
get by in the other games that they look good
without them? Sure, but in order to be oh kitch,
they got a match up with you, O kitch, you
need a legit center, if nothing else, to absorb the
five poules that he gets. And it's really easy to
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be critical of Steve Kerr until you understand the monumental
challenge of trying to win all these games in which
the only thing that can happen is bad, the only thing.
If you win, you don't really get all that much adulation.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
If you lose, it's the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And yet they've won every game going away very very
handily and look good doing it, and yet still not
enough for some people. Still not enough. Right, we weren't
good at the World Cup. There have been times in
which we've been called out as being passed internationally. We're
winning all these games well into double figures, and yet
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down of some of the things that are upcoming on
the show. We'll talk about Jim Harbaugh and what he
said about the notice of allegations from the NCAA job
Middlekaff will join us. We'll ask him about this latest
and the Brandon IOK thing. Plus maybe by the top
of next hour maybe he's traded or maybe he's not.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We also have TJ.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Shmunzada will join us next hour, and I think we're
going to do a little let's ask the coach, ax
the coach.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There's a big distinction between the two, big distinction between
the two.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, I gotta admit I got a little lazy
last night there, Jay Su my nephew gages in town.
And as is the case with so many young people,
he's not really, He's like the Dan Buyer of all of.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The young people.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, he doesn't watch a lot of movies like
Dan Is. Actually this actually plays younger because Dan Is
the guy's like, yeah, I don't watch a lot of movies.
I watched series, which is what most people do now,
but he watched We watched pulp Fiction two nights ago.
So I was like, oh, we got to watch some
of these classic ones. I started going into all the
different classic movie Shashank Redemption, never seen it, Green and Mile,
(06:30):
never heard of it. Godfather always wanted you haven't seen
it anyway? But then I did get lazy in the
movie selection. It was a good movie, but man, was
I missing you because I was thinking about the complete
fundamental flaw of the movie. Do you remember the movie
Bone Collector?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I saw it once.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Who's that Donzel.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Denzel and a young Angeline and Jolie yep, young Angelina
and Jolie and Denzel. They I don't think they really
said why, but he had some disease in his spine,
you know, that was causing him to have these seizures,
and ultimately they thought he was going to die or
end up a vegetable, but he was paralyzed from the
neck down. And there was nothing wrong with the movie
(07:18):
outside of the fact that they had to in the
last couple of scenes making a love story between Angeline
and Jolie and Denzel Washington, Like, you're doing great to
the did you have to?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Not?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Really, There's always got to be a love hook, Doug. Why,
It's like it's a kind of a prerequisite. It's it's
it's a it's like a tenet of movies. You gotta
have some kind of love interest.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Why, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
To appeal to the people that don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Actually took it, took out it took out good movie
and made it kind of super cheesy.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
It's been a while since I've seen Bone Collector, but
I remember watching it think and thinking it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
There's just like no reason to include it, right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because other than Angelaine, other than young Angela A, Jolie's
hot and at the time, Denzel Washington was the biggest
actor in Hollywood. Right, But there's literally no no need
at all to create a love story when when it
didn't have to exist, and.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
If it's developed at the end of the film, then
it Yeah, it would it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It developed slowly over time, like she put his hand
or hand on his when he was like he could
he could control his finger a little bit to change,
you know, to look at all these these documents and pictures.
But like we go to like full on love story
at the end, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Know, hand on hand for support could easily be you know,
perceived as friend zone.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But there was a look after the hand on hand.
And later on the movie they came they came back
to the hand on hand.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was clear that they made him into a couple.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know, just I just my bigger thing was
I got worn down by the process of oh, let's
go see some movies, let's check out, went to Amazon,
started scrolling through.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was like that one's fine. I kind of settled,
and I'm not a settler normally.
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about the NCAA allegations against him in a moment, but
first let's welcome in John Middlecoff Nafalen, Let's host of
the Three and Out podcast. Let's start with the Brandon
(10:18):
IUK situation, which apparently they're going to re engage in
some trade talks.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Ultimately. Do you see Kyle and John Lynch shipping him out?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Well, I think yesterday in the last you know, twelve
eighteen hours has kind of been them drawing a lie
in the fans, like, we're not playing this game, Brandon.
You know, this is this is our option, this is
this is your contract we're offering you, you know, regardless
of all these other contracts, this is our number. And
if not, here are the teams that we'd accept their trade.
(10:52):
And I think the problem for them, and I think
Schefter just reported that the Steelers have re engaged an
extra first round pick. Let's just say in theory is
incredible in March and April, right going into the draft,
when you got two picks, when you are a team
that has thirteen plus wins and Super Bowl aspirations, I
(11:13):
being an extra first round pick in August doesn't do
you any good. Like to me, the only trade to
me that they'd entertain if they go this guy's never
going to sign our contract would be the Browns and
Amari Cooper. But even that it's a little complicated because
I mean, Amri, you could plug and play and he
could give you very similar production, if not even better,
(11:36):
but he doesn't block as well. In two, you're giving
a team in the Browns, you know, a younger player
who they're going to lock up, so you'd also probably
need a second day pick. And if you're the Browns,
given I was just looking getting ready for the podcast.
I mean they're paying obviously to Shaun Aton, Miles Garrett,
a Ton, and Denzeville Award. I don't know if you
(11:57):
can really afford to give picks away, and you just
be better off rolling with Amari Cooper. And if you're
you know, the Patriots are somewhat I guess of an option,
but if you're a you, you don't want to go
play there. So I think they're kind of trying to
kind of force him between like we need a resolution here.
(12:17):
Ideally we want you to stay, but we can't keep
going on like this.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think nothing will wake you up more than hey, dude,
your options are stay here or will ship you to
the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Exactly because his deal was like I want to go
play watching him with my buddy and Adam Peters like, yeah,
we're not interested. They shouldn't be. They're not a player away.
Why would you trade a good pick or the Steelers
And it's like even if the Steelers offer their first
round pick, like I said in theory. That's good, But
for the Niner what does that do for them?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We want against this, no question, And.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
The problem is, and I think the problem is, they
probably would have entertained, you know, first round picks in
early March after the combine, but no one was offering that,
Like why because this guy's not DeVante Adams or Tyreek Kill.
So I get he looks at these other guys, but
I'm sorry, DDMoRe is a better player. You know, I'm
(13:13):
on Saint Brown. He'd argue, I'm just as good. Well, yeah,
he produces a lot more, so you can say you're
just as good. That's a hypothetical. This guy is actually produced.
His ROI for his money is much higher. You and
I have talked about this, the way they run their offense.
Like I defend the Niners on this one. I don't
think he's worth this crazy amount of money given they
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have a lot of other high priced guys moving forward.
I mean, Debo has done more in big spots than
I you or equally as much, and he makes way less.
So it just it kind of gets Belichick was always
really good at this balancing out who he broke up
like no one looks weird when they give Christian McCaffery
a race, of course they did, or when eventually they
(13:57):
give Trent a big race. I think when you get
by you who clearly they all like, and he's immediately
the highest paid player on the team, I think you
got to be careful with that type stuff.
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Speaker 3 (14:16):
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Speaker 2 (14:18):
Okay, let's bounce around the league a little bit. What
about the Jets and Hassan Reddick? How do you think
they come to resolution there?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Well, this is I can't understand, Doug that the reason
he was available was well known. You knew it, I
knew it, Fans knew it. Like he had issues with contract.
He wanted more money. So when you trade for a
guy like that, this is Brandon, You're not trading for
him just like, yeah, we'll figure it out. You immediately extend.
(14:48):
So when you trade for a guy like Reddick, if
you don't have a contract, why do you think he's
just going to be immediately happy? He was on a
better team before. He just wanted more money and the
Eagles chose not to get of him. You know another
I guess they originally signed him, I think in free
agency years ago, and they're like, yeah, we're not going
to sign you to another contract. So what made Joe
(15:10):
Douglas And this is the type stuff that just makes
you look dumb, is not having a resolution at the
point of the trade. And clearly maybe they're uncomfortable giving
them more money, but shouldn't you know that before you
trade a third round pick for the guy? That's like,
I just don't understand. It makes absolutely no sense from
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the Jets, and it looks like a fleeing that the
Eagles got rid of a problem. Actually signed one of
the Jets players, Huff Pass Rusher to their team. It's like,
what are we doing? Guys? And you know, everyone I
know loves Joe Douglas saw it seems like a great guy.
But it does feel I mean they're a little over
their heads, doesn't not.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, they feel a lot over their heads, a lot
a lot of their heads always have.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
They got lucky. The Rogers situation just kind of fell
in their lap. If it wasn't for that, what the
hell would be I mean, if the situation would be
a lot bleaker. I know they got some good young players,
but Zach Wilson picks an all time disaster in this
reddick thing, especially after the year that they just have
coming off the Rogers injury. He would think he would
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just try to be as smooth as possible acquiring players.
And this is just another situation and a bigger picture thing.
And listen, I'm not trying to overreact here, but every
clip I've seen a Baron just in practice on my
NFL networks, he looks like a forty year old guy
coming off an achilles move. His arm's the same, but
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I think his movement, remember that last year in Green Bay,
he wasn't quite as surprise as he was a couple
of years. I think he's going to be a lot slower,
and that's something to keep an eye on. Part of
his greatness, a huge part of it is I mean,
he's got to be the greatest thrower on the run
in the history of the league. I mean, Montana was
great on the move, but he did not have the
Rogers arm and maybe young l Way, but I mean,
(17:07):
if that's gone, it does limit their ceiling, right, And
I just I think we have to be prepared. You know,
when Manning fell off the cliff, they did it in
breaze because their arms started leaving. It's somewhat similar. Not
that Aaron can't play from within the pocket, but movement
was a huge part of his dominance as a definitely
(17:29):
a regular season player. So I think that's something to
keep an eye on that you're going to get a
forty year old guy that if ten out of ten.
Maybe he wasn't a ten out of ten, but in
terms of scrambling it was pretty high end. What if
that has now gone from a nine, not eight and
a half to like a four or five.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That'd be amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean that would be stunning, and it would obviously
change dramatically how he would be able to play and
how much he'd have to stay into the pocket. I
think we have to look for it. Some interesting comments
coming out of Pittsburgh talking about how dynamic a weapon
Justin Fields is.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Can we read anything into that?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I mean, again, I'll just give you my read is
they want to use him as a slash. But it's
not like Russell Wilson setting the world on fire. But
I don't think. I don't think Justin Fields is the
answer for anything any read into those comments come out
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, I mean it's not an ideal comment. I saw
the headline yesterday. The problem for them is they have
a declining older superstar in Russell and a guy that
everyone's gonna want to see that I want to see.
But there is a chance that certain guys just are
who they are, and there's no matter how good a
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coach Arthur Smith is, there's nothing much you can do
the good thing for the Steelers, and they're paying these
two guys that combine not much money, and both of
them are going to be free agents, so it's not
like they're tied to either one of these guys. But
this is a chance. And this is why to me,
if I'm the Steelers, I would not be that interested
because if I'm the Niners, like, you're not giving me
a player I need your first round tick if you
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want Brandon. I don't think the Steelers can afford to
give a first round pick when next year they might
have to be one of those teams if they go
you know, eight to nine or nine and eight kind
of the same place they've been for a while now
to be in a position to trade up for a quarterback.
You can't get rid of your assets, and I think
they have to realize that. Yeah, this quarterback situation in
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theory is a lot cooler, and I had a lot
more bizazz and name powered in the last couple of years.
But the outcome might not be that different.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Right, No, I don't think so, it might not be
that different. It's the dou Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
John Middlekoff is our guest settling now on those new
quarterback contracts from last week.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where are you on TUIs contract?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Same spot I've been, I think, and it shows why
they quadruple down on Tyreek Hill. They have no choice, right,
I mean, he's so dependent on those two guys. I
just I think it's a grave overpay. I get there
is value in having a guy that you know you
can function with, but given that conference, I just think
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that you have such a disadvantage as the season goes
in January or excuse me, not even at January, in November, December,
given the good teams in your conference, given how talented
their quarterbacks are, and I'll just never understand why there
isn't just tears, like what is wrong with paying what
he made, instead of giving him what he made, giving
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him what Alex Smith used to make relatives of Rogers
and Peyton and Tom Brady. Actually Tom made West, but
Roethlisberg or whatever. Right, But that's that's not how it works.
And I think a lot of these teams get themselves
in these tough spots. Say what you want about Dak.
I think Dak at least late in the season like
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the other good teams. Now he's failed in the playoffs,
but at least you know, you can win a lot
of regular season games with him, Like I don't even
know that about Tua. Like last year was pretty best
case because how well they started would have instead of
starting you know, eight and two or whatever, they seven
and one, he starts four and four. It gets harder
as the weather.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Changes does so Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports
Tradio that's the voice of John Middlecoff three now is
in fact the podcast. I do want to ask you,
as somebody who's that lover of all things sports, what
do you make of.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
The team USA. We're getting ready to watch them tip off.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And there have been plenty of people who were bothered
that Jason Tatum didn't play in the first game against Serbia,
and then to a lesser extent, Joe emb didn't play
in game two. We've seen Drew Holiday miss a game.
Halliburton didn't play in that first game. What do you
think and how Kerr is doing?
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah to me, I can't even fath the complaining, you know,
and it's not coming from Jason Tatum's coming from everyone
on the outside, especially when he went to him before
the game. This is not an NBA game that has
nothing to do with the NBA Finals. He's not playing
behind Doug Gottlieb. I mean the game one, it was
Kevin Durant, I'm sorry, who was red hot. And the
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second game, I don't have the luel dang scouting report
on a squad, but it sure looked like they had
a bunch of wings that weren't a lot of biggs.
So why would you play him with a lumbering center
who had been awful and let's face it looks out
of shape. The other thing I get offended a lot
as or with this team on paper like in their
(22:40):
primes would be incredible. Obviously Lebron step and Kevin Durant,
but the ninety two team, the depth of the team,
I would say because Larry was old and back was shot,
Magic was old. But Michael was in when the peak
of his powers, and I'm sorry, Charles Barkley was also
in the peak of his powers and he's better, said
most of these other guys at the time. So I
(23:03):
guess it's not Apple's apples, given how much better the
world is. But Lebron's forty years old, you know, Steph,
God love him, but it does feel like he's kind
of closer to the whole eighteen than he is the
term here, so I don't know. I mean, I just
some of these arguments are just they're just kind of exhausting.
But it's very kind of NBA, Like Joe emb didn't
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play yet they won by twenty five against the team
with no centers. I'm sorry, what's the big deal here?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I don't know what it is either.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We live in the weirdest society where even when you're
clearly right, you're still not right because you didn't completely
acquiesce to every player.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And the other thing is Doug all the arguments about
Jalen Brown, who's turned into a fantastic player. But you
can't just have twelve Kevin Durant on the team. And
I'm not saying Jalen Brown's Kevin Durant. I was watching
when they were playing South du Dan. I mean, Whites
is unreal. He would play on every good team over
(24:03):
the last thirty plus years in the NBA, Like you
need guys.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It's not just it's not just that you do one.
If he doesn't play, he's not going to say a
word too. He's I don't think people understand how big
he is and how good he is and how different
the game is. You know, It's like Canada lost today
to France, and I tell people, like this is what's
going to happen. Everybody thinks Canada was good because they
have all these players that are talented.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
In the NBA, it's like a different sport.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
So I think about why the Warriors, even before Kevin
Durant showed up there when they hit their stride for
those two years, it was Stephan Clay and then they
had Draymond and Andre With these teams Michael Jordan, had
Ron Harper. I mean, you've got to have role players,
whether it's an NBA game, whether it's Team USA, Like
(24:50):
that's part of the world. You can't just have everyone
thinking they're going to score twenty five points. That's not
the way it works.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Nope, Nope, that's not a team. Johnny are the best man.
I appreciate you joining us. Thanks so much. Do Stug
Gottlieb show.
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advance in.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Basketball, women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Women's soccer.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I haven't done it intentionally so, but I can tell
you that I haven't watched a single play of the
women playing one because my expectations are there much better
than their competition. But two, if Kaitlin Clark was playing,
I would watch. I would watch.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, they're playing Nigeria tomorrow in their quarterfinal round.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Sam, have you watched a single second of the women's
because you are for people to haven't.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Listened to us.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Sam is all in on the WNBA because he's all
in on Kaitlyn Clark. Have you watched even a second
of the women's national team play?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes? Yes, I believe one of the first one or
two games we had it on in here and I
was watching.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Were you paying attention? Was it the same or different? Well,
how'd you feel without watching your girl Kayler?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Caitlin.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
They're going to dominate either way. So I wasn't able
to watch it with like sound on, and I could
only glance up to see kind of what the score was.
But they're taking care of business. Yeah, Caitlyn getting in
would boost the ratings and probably help with the attendants,
but alas she's not here. I think that time offer
(26:34):
her was really good. I think that they were actually
this Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, I actually didn't totally. I think it probably did
her a favor.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
She got to go a little bit vacation, get back
to practice, kind of just get her sea legs back
under her. So I think this was mutually beneficial.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Let's get to this.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So Jim Harbaugh had to answer some questions about the
allegations and all this is the NC allegations and the
findings from the Connor stallions thing, and some of that
is like he didn't want to turn over his cell phone.
You know, they got him on a bunch of little
different minor NCA violations or whatever. The big one is
that they had, you know, all these practices and sideline
(27:12):
passes that counter stallions had been a part of the
Michigan football program.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Jim. Here's Jim Harbaugh practice yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
I do have a comment on that. Never lie, never cheat,
never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have
raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that
lesson to the teams that I've coached.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No one's perfect.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,
I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Do you believe him? That's the question. Do you believe them?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You don't know Jase do.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
No. I don't believe him. I do like him as
my head coach of the Chargers, but I don't believe
I want to quote Bo Schambeckler here. Both scham beck Wer,
former Michigan head coach, said this one. At some point,
when someone uncovers a scandal in their company, I don't
think they can say they don't know what was going on.
(28:25):
They're just saying they are too dumb to do their job.
And if they are really too dumb, then why are
they getting paid millions of dollars to do it they
know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think it's a fair assumption to make. Do we
know do we believe that Jim Harball is a liar
previous to this? Do you think he tells the think
he fabricates things in any way?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I don't think there's been a track record now he's.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Been so why do we think he's lying now?
Speaker 8 (28:56):
For?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I think that's the reason I read the Shambckler thing.
I don't think you can run a program and be
the alpha that he is without knowing everything that's going on,
or at least a hint of what's going on. You know,
when people say stuff like I know nothing of what
was going on, it always kind of raises the red
(29:19):
flag with me. It was like when Deshaun Watson early on,
when the first when the story first came out about
his creepy stuff with Messuss, He's like, I've never once
disrespected a woman, And to me, that raised a red flag,
Like why would you say that what's going on.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
There never once disrespect to him? And sounds incredibly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Impossible, right because you don't know what Listen.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I tend to agree with you, it seems far fetched.
I do learn about just about everything going on. There
are some things that do surprise me, but I'm a
a I don't want to surprise the sort of guy. Also,
I would you know, the size and the vast the
program at Michigan is so much more vast. I'm willing
to believe there are some things that he doesn't know
(30:05):
about that he doesn't have time for. I don't know
if this is one of them, but the biggest defense
is that none of us believe. We can say he's weird,
but he's always been a man of his word. He's
pushed the gray area, but he hasn't gone in the
black and white area. So I tend to believe him,
(30:25):
mostly because he hasn't give me any reason not to
believe him previously. Even if it's fairly unbelievable that he
wouldn't know everything that's going on with the Zemer program,
I'm willing to believe that because of how big that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Program actually is.
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a game.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
What do you got there, Isaac Longcron.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Doug Godlieb, Time to put your ranking shoes on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Rank them.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
I want you to rank the top four players in
the National Football League and not to put any pressure
on you, but don't forget Justin Tucker. Sorry, rank the
top four players of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Hmm. I will go with.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Micah Parsons at five, at four, actually at two, at four,
michaeh Parsons at four, I'll do uh shoot, Nick po
said three, all right, Tyreek kill at two and Pat
Mahomes at one.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
All right, very good. Can't argue with that. So team
USA out to a twenty eight to seventeen lead over
Brazil in the quarterfinals one forty six left in the
first quarter. I want you to rank the top three
men's basketball teams remaining in the Olympic Tournament. We presently
have five teams remaining. So basically, pick your gold, silver,
and bronze. The teams remaining team USA, Brazil, France, Serbia,
(32:45):
and Germany.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I think it's going to be the Gentlemans.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, uh, Serbia three, Germany too, and the United States one.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
All right, So there are your predictions. You can take
that to the bank. Staying on the theme of the
US men's basketball program, I want you to rank the
top three best head coaches of the US men's basketball
team of all time. Now, just for context for the
(33:22):
people out there, we had Chuck Day was the coach
of the original Dream Team in ninety two, but before that,
when it was Amateurs, the head coach of the US
men's basketball team included Bobby Knight, for example, top three
best US men's basketball team head coaches.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Of all time, and Henry Iva as well.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Exactly, Hank Iba.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with at three, Mike Krzyzewski at two, two,
(34:03):
Chuck Daily, and one I'm gonna do Steve Kerr.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
All right, Coach k could could you give me a
quick reaction to Doug ranking you third? Ahead of Bobby Knight,
among others. I love Duke, couldn't resist. All right, now,
staying with the Olympics, I want you to rank your
(34:26):
top three stars of these Olympics up to right now,
and it can be any sports, any country. Top three
stars across the board that have emerged so far in
these twenty twenty four Paris Games.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
How do you anounced the French shimmer's first name?
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Oh right, I'm gonna have to double check Lyon.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It must be the updates he wins all the gold.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Medals, Leon. I mean there's an accent of you over
the e.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I would say that guy, I would say Katie LYDECKI
all right? And then what's your name with the gymnastics,
Simone Biles? Simone Biles?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Yeah, all right. Final item, We're going to go to
Major League Baseball and it's your Chicago White Sox twenty
one game losing streak, AM counting. I want you to
rank the worst three baseball teams that you can remember. So,
(35:31):
I mean we're as I remember, like the eighty seven
or eighty eight Orioles started to own twenty one. Take
it in whatever direction you want, Yeah, I mean you
can throw the bad news Bears in there for all
we care.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
All right, what's gonna throw the bad news bears in there?
No question, bad news Bears would be one, These white
soxs would be two, and then uh, the dem bums.
Uh Brooklyn Dodgers. Right, Brooklyn Dodgers are the bums? Does
that'd be three? I don't know what year it was,
but they were really bad before the game World Series shape.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Oh okay, you know, theoretically you could go with the
New York Mets, the nineteen sixty two New York Mets,
I suppose too. Sure, the old Cleveland Spiders were who
only knows, but let me let me, let me, let
me see here. So the nineteen oh five Brooklyn Dodgers,
(36:21):
who were known as the superbuzz back then, had a
record of forty eight wins and one hundred and four losses.
They also tied three times, so they are right in
the mix as well. So there you go. That is
your rankum for today.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
I got game.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
This is game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
All right, cople of next, We'll keep.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You updated on what's going on here with with you
say basketball? At the end of the first quarter, thirty
three to twenty one is the score? So offense not
a problem for the Americans against the against the Brazilians.
Next hour, TJS Benzata will join us. Next hour we'll
(37:16):
do let's ask the coach and next next hour we'll
also talk about renan Ayuk again. I think he's a
really talented wide receiver. Is he talented enough to kind
of put the brakes on everything for the Niners?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
So do the Niners want to move him? Or are
they simply positioning themselves to get him back? We've got
to tackle that topic. So did there tackle that topic?
Tackle that topic? Plus we have all these preseason games
getting ready to get in away this week. Okay, this
is the one of the old football is really really
really really back. Okay, really really back. The kind of
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where there is one thing that unites us all as
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I'm always torn in talking about countries and how you
pronounce their name, right, do you pronounce the name of
the way they want us to they pronounce their name
or the way we do, like do say France or
do you say France. It's like I've never understood stood
that we will say France and then yet when we're
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(01:15):
and the other things that aren't American expressions. If we
do the American pronunciation of stuff, we do American pronunciation
of stuff. If you're gonna do the foreign pronunciation of stuff,
you gotta do the foreign pronunciation of everything. Yeah, Like
you can't just go into Mexico instead of Mexico and
then everything else you pronounce as a normal gringo white person.
(01:39):
I'm making sense on this one, feel like I am.
I actually I know that I am. But here we are,
and Team USA is going to tip off against Brazil
and Steve Kerr still getting criticized for his rotations or whatever.
Whereas now you get Brazil, a team that's.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Not as strong as the rest, not as strong.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
As they've been, and you get kind of a one
game by before you probably get Serbia again, right, and
then you saw Canda lost to France. So it's all
setting up for USA France in the finals, which would
be amazing in Paris, amazing, you know, And like I
(02:22):
told you, guys, I understand that the Canadian team on
paper had the best NBA players in comparison to everybody
else not named Team USA.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But it's not NBA style basketball.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's just not, never has been, never will be, and
I think it's amazing things really interesting.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
It's like people keep being.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Critical of USA basketball and they haven't really been challenged
at all.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
He's pushed all the right buttons.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It'd be one thing if they were struggling, but they're
not struggling, So why are we being.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Critical of it? Like doubt yourself.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Back to every previous Olympics, even in the Redeemed Team era,
and they've been challenged by different teams. And I'm of
the belief that the game against Serbia in the Semis,
where I'm not saying they threw the first game, but
the first game they didn't make a ton of adjustments
and we hit every shot we threw like Kevin rant
literally couldn't play any better.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And it'll be different.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
They didn't play, you know, they didn't play the league's
three time MVP all that much. And when they did
it was an even game. So what do you think
they're gonna do? Right, Yo, Kisch is gonna play a
ton and will need MB to play better. And all
those people that have been rightfully critical of me to
(03:44):
understand that he's being brought and kept on this trip
really for that one game, maybe even two. Can they
get by in the other games that they look good
without them? Sure, but in order to be oh kitch,
they got a match up with you, O kitch, you
need a legit center, if nothing else, to absorb the
five poules that he gets. And it's really easy to
(04:08):
be critical of Steve Kerr until you understand the monumental
challenge of trying to win all these games in which
the only thing that can happen is bad, the only thing.
If you win, you don't really get all that much adulation.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
If you lose, it's the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And yet they've won every game going away very very
handily and look good doing it, and yet still not
enough for some people. Still not enough. Right, we weren't
good at the World Cup. There have been times in
which we've been called out as being passed internationally. We're
winning all these games well into double figures, and yet
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down of some of the things that are upcoming on
the show. We'll talk about Jim Harbaugh and what he
said about the notice of allegations from the NCAA job
Middlekaff will join us. We'll ask him about this latest
and the Brandon IOK thing. Plus maybe by the top
of next hour maybe he's traded or maybe he's not.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We also have TJ.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Shmunzada will join us next hour, and I think we're
going to do a little let's ask the coach, ax
the coach.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
There's a big distinction between the two, big distinction between
the two.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You know, I gotta admit I got a little lazy
last night there, Jay Su my nephew gages in town.
And as is the case with so many young people,
he's not really, He's like the Dan Buyer of all of.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
The young people.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, he doesn't watch a lot of movies like
Dan Is. Actually this actually plays younger because Dan Is
the guy's like, yeah, I don't watch a lot of movies.
I watched series, which is what most people do now,
but he watched We watched pulp Fiction two nights ago.
So I was like, oh, we got to watch some
of these classic ones. I started going into all the
different classic movie Shashank Redemption, never seen it, Green and Mile,
(06:30):
never heard of it. Godfather always wanted you haven't seen
it anyway? But then I did get lazy in the
movie selection. It was a good movie, but man, was
I missing you because I was thinking about the complete
fundamental flaw of the movie. Do you remember the movie
Bone Collector?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I saw it once.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Who's that Donzel.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Denzel and a young Angeline and Jolie yep, young Angelina
and Jolie and Denzel. They I don't think they really
said why, but he had some disease in his spine,
you know, that was causing him to have these seizures,
and ultimately they thought he was going to die or
end up a vegetable, but he was paralyzed from the
neck down. And there was nothing wrong with the movie
(07:18):
outside of the fact that they had to in the
last couple of scenes making a love story between Angeline
and Jolie and Denzel Washington, Like, you're doing great to
the did you have to?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Not?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Really, There's always got to be a love hook, Doug. Why,
It's like it's a kind of a prerequisite. It's it's
it's a it's like a tenet of movies. You gotta
have some kind of love interest.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Why, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
To appeal to the people that don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Actually took it, took out it took out good movie
and made it kind of super cheesy.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
It's been a while since I've seen Bone Collector, but
I remember watching it think and thinking it was good.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
There's just like no reason to include it, right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Because other than Angelaine, other than young Angela A, Jolie's
hot and at the time, Denzel Washington was the biggest
actor in Hollywood. Right, But there's literally no no need
at all to create a love story when when it
didn't have to exist, and.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
If it's developed at the end of the film, then
it Yeah, it would it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It developed slowly over time, like she put his hand
or hand on his when he was like he could
he could control his finger a little bit to change,
you know, to look at all these these documents and pictures.
But like we go to like full on love story
at the end, like I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Know, hand on hand for support could easily be you know,
perceived as friend zone.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
But there was a look after the hand on hand.
And later on the movie they came they came back
to the hand on hand.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was clear that they made him into a couple.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't know, just I just my bigger thing was
I got worn down by the process of oh, let's
go see some movies, let's check out, went to Amazon,
started scrolling through.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It was like that one's fine. I kind of settled,
and I'm not a settler normally.
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about the NCAA allegations against him in a moment, but
first let's welcome in John Middlecoff Nafalen, Let's host of
the Three and Out podcast. Let's start with the Brandon
(10:18):
IUK situation, which apparently they're going to re engage in
some trade talks.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Ultimately. Do you see Kyle and John Lynch shipping him out?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Well, I think yesterday in the last you know, twelve
eighteen hours has kind of been them drawing a lie
in the fans, like, we're not playing this game, Brandon.
You know, this is this is our option, this is
this is your contract we're offering you, you know, regardless
of all these other contracts, this is our number. And
if not, here are the teams that we'd accept their trade.
(10:52):
And I think the problem for them, and I think
Schefter just reported that the Steelers have re engaged an
extra first round pick. Let's just say in theory is
incredible in March and April, right going into the draft,
when you got two picks, when you are a team
that has thirteen plus wins and Super Bowl aspirations, I
(11:13):
being an extra first round pick in August doesn't do
you any good. Like to me, the only trade to
me that they'd entertain if they go this guy's never
going to sign our contract would be the Browns and
Amari Cooper. But even that it's a little complicated because
I mean, Amri, you could plug and play and he
could give you very similar production, if not even better,
(11:36):
but he doesn't block as well. In two, you're giving
a team in the Browns, you know, a younger player
who they're going to lock up, so you'd also probably
need a second day pick. And if you're the Browns,
given I was just looking getting ready for the podcast.
I mean they're paying obviously to Shaun Aton, Miles Garrett,
a Ton, and Denzeville Award. I don't know if you
(11:57):
can really afford to give picks away, and you just
be better off rolling with Amari Cooper. And if you're
you know, the Patriots are somewhat I guess of an option,
but if you're a you, you don't want to go
play there. So I think they're kind of trying to
kind of force him between like we need a resolution here.
(12:17):
Ideally we want you to stay, but we can't keep
going on like this.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I think nothing will wake you up more than hey, dude,
your options are stay here or will ship you to
the Patriots.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Exactly because his deal was like I want to go
play watching him with my buddy and Adam Peters like, yeah,
we're not interested. They shouldn't be. They're not a player away.
Why would you trade a good pick or the Steelers
And it's like even if the Steelers offer their first
round pick, like I said in theory. That's good, But
for the Niner what does that do for them?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We want against this, no question, And.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
The problem is, and I think the problem is, they
probably would have entertained, you know, first round picks in
early March after the combine, but no one was offering that,
Like why because this guy's not DeVante Adams or Tyreek Kill.
So I get he looks at these other guys, but
I'm sorry, DDMoRe is a better player. You know, I'm
(13:13):
on Saint Brown. He'd argue, I'm just as good. Well, yeah,
he produces a lot more, so you can say you're
just as good. That's a hypothetical. This guy is actually produced.
His ROI for his money is much higher. You and
I have talked about this, the way they run their offense.
Like I defend the Niners on this one. I don't
think he's worth this crazy amount of money given they
(13:36):
have a lot of other high priced guys moving forward.
I mean, Debo has done more in big spots than
I you or equally as much, and he makes way less.
So it just it kind of gets Belichick was always
really good at this balancing out who he broke up
like no one looks weird when they give Christian McCaffery
a race, of course they did, or when eventually they
(13:57):
give Trent a big race. I think when you get
by you who clearly they all like, and he's immediately
the highest paid player on the team, I think you
got to be careful with that type stuff.
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Speaker 2 (14:18):
Okay, let's bounce around the league a little bit. What
about the Jets and Hassan Reddick? How do you think
they come to resolution there?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Well, this is I can't understand, Doug that the reason
he was available was well known. You knew it, I
knew it, Fans knew it. Like he had issues with contract.
He wanted more money. So when you trade for a
guy like that, this is Brandon, You're not trading for
him just like, yeah, we'll figure it out. You immediately extend.
(14:48):
So when you trade for a guy like Reddick, if
you don't have a contract, why do you think he's
just going to be immediately happy? He was on a
better team before. He just wanted more money and the
Eagles chose not to get of him. You know another
I guess they originally signed him, I think in free
agency years ago, and they're like, yeah, we're not going
to sign you to another contract. So what made Joe
(15:10):
Douglas And this is the type stuff that just makes
you look dumb, is not having a resolution at the
point of the trade. And clearly maybe they're uncomfortable giving
them more money, but shouldn't you know that before you
trade a third round pick for the guy? That's like,
I just don't understand. It makes absolutely no sense from
(15:32):
the Jets, and it looks like a fleeing that the
Eagles got rid of a problem. Actually signed one of
the Jets players, Huff Pass Rusher to their team. It's like,
what are we doing? Guys? And you know, everyone I
know loves Joe Douglas saw it seems like a great guy.
But it does feel I mean they're a little over
their heads, doesn't not.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Oh, they feel a lot over their heads, a lot
a lot of their heads always have.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
They got lucky. The Rogers situation just kind of fell
in their lap. If it wasn't for that, what the
hell would be I mean, if the situation would be
a lot bleaker. I know they got some good young players,
but Zach Wilson picks an all time disaster in this
reddick thing, especially after the year that they just have
coming off the Rogers injury. He would think he would
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just try to be as smooth as possible acquiring players.
And this is just another situation and a bigger picture thing.
And listen, I'm not trying to overreact here, but every
clip I've seen a Baron just in practice on my
NFL networks, he looks like a forty year old guy
coming off an achilles move. His arm's the same, but
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I think his movement, remember that last year in Green Bay,
he wasn't quite as surprise as he was a couple
of years. I think he's going to be a lot slower,
and that's something to keep an eye on. Part of
his greatness, a huge part of it is I mean,
he's got to be the greatest thrower on the run
in the history of the league. I mean, Montana was
great on the move, but he did not have the
Rogers arm and maybe young l Way, but I mean,
(17:07):
if that's gone, it does limit their ceiling, right, And
I just I think we have to be prepared. You know,
when Manning fell off the cliff, they did it in
breaze because their arms started leaving. It's somewhat similar. Not
that Aaron can't play from within the pocket, but movement
was a huge part of his dominance as a definitely
(17:29):
a regular season player. So I think that's something to
keep an eye on that you're going to get a
forty year old guy that if ten out of ten.
Maybe he wasn't a ten out of ten, but in
terms of scrambling it was pretty high end. What if
that has now gone from a nine, not eight and
a half to like a four or five.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That'd be amazing.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean that would be stunning, and it would obviously
change dramatically how he would be able to play and
how much he'd have to stay into the pocket. I
think we have to look for it. Some interesting comments
coming out of Pittsburgh talking about how dynamic a weapon
Justin Fields is.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Can we read anything into that?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I mean, again, I'll just give you my read is
they want to use him as a slash. But it's
not like Russell Wilson setting the world on fire. But
I don't think. I don't think Justin Fields is the
answer for anything any read into those comments come out
in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah, I mean it's not an ideal comment. I saw
the headline yesterday. The problem for them is they have
a declining older superstar in Russell and a guy that
everyone's gonna want to see that I want to see.
But there is a chance that certain guys just are
who they are, and there's no matter how good a
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coach Arthur Smith is, there's nothing much you can do
the good thing for the Steelers, and they're paying these
two guys that combine not much money, and both of
them are going to be free agents, so it's not
like they're tied to either one of these guys. But
this is a chance. And this is why to me,
if I'm the Steelers, I would not be that interested
because if I'm the Niners, like, you're not giving me
a player I need your first round tick if you
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want Brandon. I don't think the Steelers can afford to
give a first round pick when next year they might
have to be one of those teams if they go
you know, eight to nine or nine and eight kind
of the same place they've been for a while now
to be in a position to trade up for a quarterback.
You can't get rid of your assets, and I think
they have to realize that. Yeah, this quarterback situation in
(19:27):
theory is a lot cooler, and I had a lot
more bizazz and name powered in the last couple of years.
But the outcome might not be that different.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Right, No, I don't think so, it might not be
that different. It's the dou Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
John Middlekoff is our guest settling now on those new
quarterback contracts from last week.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where are you on TUIs contract?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Same spot I've been, I think, and it shows why
they quadruple down on Tyreek Hill. They have no choice, right,
I mean, he's so dependent on those two guys. I
just I think it's a grave overpay. I get there
is value in having a guy that you know you
can function with, but given that conference, I just think
(20:17):
that you have such a disadvantage as the season goes
in January or excuse me, not even at January, in November, December,
given the good teams in your conference, given how talented
their quarterbacks are, and I'll just never understand why there
isn't just tears, like what is wrong with paying what
he made, instead of giving him what he made, giving
(20:39):
him what Alex Smith used to make relatives of Rogers
and Peyton and Tom Brady. Actually Tom made West, but
Roethlisberg or whatever. Right, But that's that's not how it works.
And I think a lot of these teams get themselves
in these tough spots. Say what you want about Dak.
I think Dak at least late in the season like
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the other good teams. Now he's failed in the playoffs,
but at least you know, you can win a lot
of regular season games with him, Like I don't even
know that about Tua. Like last year was pretty best
case because how well they started would have instead of
starting you know, eight and two or whatever, they seven
and one, he starts four and four. It gets harder
as the weather.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Changes does so Doug gotlib show here on Fox Sports
Tradio that's the voice of John Middlecoff three now is
in fact the podcast. I do want to ask you,
as somebody who's that lover of all things sports, what
do you make of.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
The team USA. We're getting ready to watch them tip off.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
And there have been plenty of people who were bothered
that Jason Tatum didn't play in the first game against Serbia,
and then to a lesser extent, Joe emb didn't play
in game two. We've seen Drew Holiday miss a game.
Halliburton didn't play in that first game. What do you
think and how Kerr is doing?
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah to me, I can't even fath the complaining, you know,
and it's not coming from Jason Tatum's coming from everyone
on the outside, especially when he went to him before
the game. This is not an NBA game that has
nothing to do with the NBA Finals. He's not playing
behind Doug Gottlieb. I mean the game one, it was
Kevin Durant, I'm sorry, who was red hot. And the
(22:20):
second game, I don't have the luel dang scouting report
on a squad, but it sure looked like they had
a bunch of wings that weren't a lot of biggs.
So why would you play him with a lumbering center
who had been awful and let's face it looks out
of shape. The other thing I get offended a lot
as or with this team on paper like in their
(22:40):
primes would be incredible. Obviously Lebron step and Kevin Durant,
but the ninety two team, the depth of the team,
I would say because Larry was old and back was shot,
Magic was old. But Michael was in when the peak
of his powers, and I'm sorry, Charles Barkley was also
in the peak of his powers and he's better, said
most of these other guys at the time. So I
(23:03):
guess it's not Apple's apples, given how much better the
world is. But Lebron's forty years old, you know, Steph,
God love him, but it does feel like he's kind
of closer to the whole eighteen than he is the
term here, so I don't know. I mean, I just
some of these arguments are just they're just kind of exhausting.
But it's very kind of NBA, Like Joe emb didn't
(23:25):
play yet they won by twenty five against the team
with no centers. I'm sorry, what's the big deal here?
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I don't know what it is either.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
We live in the weirdest society where even when you're
clearly right, you're still not right because you didn't completely
acquiesce to every player.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
And the other thing is Doug all the arguments about
Jalen Brown, who's turned into a fantastic player. But you
can't just have twelve Kevin Durant on the team. And
I'm not saying Jalen Brown's Kevin Durant. I was watching
when they were playing South du Dan. I mean, Whites
is unreal. He would play on every good team over
(24:03):
the last thirty plus years in the NBA, Like you
need guys.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It's not just it's not just that you do one.
If he doesn't play, he's not going to say a
word too. He's I don't think people understand how big
he is and how good he is and how different
the game is. You know, It's like Canada lost today
to France, and I tell people, like this is what's
going to happen. Everybody thinks Canada was good because they
have all these players that are talented.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
In the NBA, it's like a different sport.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
So I think about why the Warriors, even before Kevin
Durant showed up there when they hit their stride for
those two years, it was Stephan Clay and then they
had Draymond and Andre With these teams Michael Jordan, had
Ron Harper. I mean, you've got to have role players,
whether it's an NBA game, whether it's Team USA, Like
(24:50):
that's part of the world. You can't just have everyone
thinking they're going to score twenty five points. That's not
the way it works.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Nope, Nope, that's not a team. Johnny are the best man.
I appreciate you joining us. Thanks so much. Do Stug
Gottlieb show.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, Joel Embiid knocks down a
three pointers stead up five to four. You know it
is interesting either. Didn't you say the women the women
advance in.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Basketball, women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Women's soccer.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I haven't done it intentionally so, but I can tell
you that I haven't watched a single play of the
women playing one because my expectations are there much better
than their competition. But two, if Kaitlin Clark was playing,
I would watch. I would watch.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
Yeah, they're playing Nigeria tomorrow in their quarterfinal round.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Sam, have you watched a single second of the women's
because you are for people to haven't.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Listened to us.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Sam is all in on the WNBA because he's all
in on Kaitlyn Clark. Have you watched even a second
of the women's national team play?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes? Yes, I believe one of the first one or
two games we had it on in here and I
was watching.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Were you paying attention? Was it the same or different? Well,
how'd you feel without watching your girl Kayler?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Caitlin.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
They're going to dominate either way. So I wasn't able
to watch it with like sound on, and I could
only glance up to see kind of what the score was.
But they're taking care of business. Yeah, Caitlyn getting in
would boost the ratings and probably help with the attendants,
but alas she's not here. I think that time offer
(26:34):
her was really good. I think that they were actually
this Oh.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
No, I actually didn't totally. I think it probably did
her a favor.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
She got to go a little bit vacation, get back
to practice, kind of just get her sea legs back
under her. So I think this was mutually beneficial.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Let's get to this.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So Jim Harbaugh had to answer some questions about the
allegations and all this is the NC allegations and the
findings from the Connor stallions thing, and some of that
is like he didn't want to turn over his cell phone.
You know, they got him on a bunch of little
different minor NCA violations or whatever. The big one is
that they had, you know, all these practices and sideline
(27:12):
passes that counter stallions had been a part of the
Michigan football program.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Jim. Here's Jim Harbaugh practice yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
I do have a comment on that. Never lie, never cheat,
never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have
raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that
lesson to the teams that I've coached.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No one's perfect.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,
I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Do you believe him? That's the question. Do you believe them?
Speaker 7 (27:59):
I did not.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You don't know Jase do.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
No. I don't believe him. I do like him as
my head coach of the Chargers, but I don't believe
I want to quote Bo Schambeckler here. Both scham beck Wer,
former Michigan head coach, said this one. At some point,
when someone uncovers a scandal in their company, I don't
think they can say they don't know what was going on.
(28:25):
They're just saying they are too dumb to do their job.
And if they are really too dumb, then why are
they getting paid millions of dollars to do it they
know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I think it's a fair assumption to make. Do we
know do we believe that Jim Harball is a liar
previous to this? Do you think he tells the think
he fabricates things in any way?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I don't think there's been a track record now he's.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Been so why do we think he's lying now?
Speaker 8 (28:56):
For?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I think that's the reason I read the Shambckler thing.
I don't think you can run a program and be
the alpha that he is without knowing everything that's going on,
or at least a hint of what's going on. You know,
when people say stuff like I know nothing of what
was going on, it always kind of raises the red
(29:19):
flag with me. It was like when Deshaun Watson early on,
when the first when the story first came out about
his creepy stuff with Messuss, He's like, I've never once
disrespected a woman, And to me, that raised a red flag,
Like why would you say that what's going on.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
There never once disrespect to him? And sounds incredibly.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Impossible, right because you don't know what Listen.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I tend to agree with you, it seems far fetched.
I do learn about just about everything going on. There
are some things that do surprise me, but I'm a
a I don't want to surprise the sort of guy. Also,
I would you know, the size and the vast the
program at Michigan is so much more vast. I'm willing
to believe there are some things that he doesn't know
(30:05):
about that he doesn't have time for. I don't know
if this is one of them, but the biggest defense
is that none of us believe. We can say he's weird,
but he's always been a man of his word. He's
pushed the gray area, but he hasn't gone in the
black and white area. So I tend to believe him,
(30:25):
mostly because he hasn't give me any reason not to
believe him previously. Even if it's fairly unbelievable that he
wouldn't know everything that's going on with the Zemer program,
I'm willing to believe that because of how big that.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Program actually is.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
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Speaker 6 (30:43):
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(31:12):
a game.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
What do you got there, Isaac Longcron.
Speaker 8 (31:29):
Doug Godlieb, Time to put your ranking shoes on.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Rank them.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
I want you to rank the top four players in
the National Football League and not to put any pressure
on you, but don't forget Justin Tucker. Sorry, rank the
top four players of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Hmm. I will go with.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Micah Parsons at five, at four, actually at two, at four,
michaeh Parsons at four, I'll do uh shoot, Nick po
said three, all right, Tyreek kill at two and Pat
Mahomes at one.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
All right, very good. Can't argue with that. So team
USA out to a twenty eight to seventeen lead over
Brazil in the quarterfinals one forty six left in the
first quarter. I want you to rank the top three
men's basketball teams remaining in the Olympic Tournament. We presently
have five teams remaining. So basically, pick your gold, silver,
and bronze. The teams remaining team USA, Brazil, France, Serbia,
(32:45):
and Germany.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
I think it's going to be the Gentlemans.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, uh, Serbia three, Germany too, and the United States one.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
All right, So there are your predictions. You can take
that to the bank. Staying on the theme of the
US men's basketball program, I want you to rank the
top three best head coaches of the US men's basketball
team of all time. Now, just for context for the
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people out there, we had Chuck Day was the coach
of the original Dream Team in ninety two, but before that,
when it was Amateurs, the head coach of the US
men's basketball team included Bobby Knight, for example, top three
best US men's basketball team head coaches.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Of all time, and Henry Iva as well.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Exactly, Hank Iba.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with at three, Mike Krzyzewski at two, two,
(34:03):
Chuck Daily, and one I'm gonna do Steve Kerr.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
All right, Coach k could could you give me a
quick reaction to Doug ranking you third? Ahead of Bobby Knight,
among others. I love Duke, couldn't resist. All right, now,
staying with the Olympics, I want you to rank your
(34:26):
top three stars of these Olympics up to right now,
and it can be any sports, any country. Top three
stars across the board that have emerged so far in
these twenty twenty four Paris Games.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
How do you anounced the French shimmer's first name?
Speaker 8 (34:46):
Oh right, I'm gonna have to double check Lyon.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
It must be the updates he wins all the gold.
Speaker 8 (34:56):
Medals, Leon. I mean there's an accent of you over
the e.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I would say that guy, I would say Katie LYDECKI
all right? And then what's your name with the gymnastics,
Simone Biles? Simone Biles?
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Yeah, all right. Final item, We're going to go to
Major League Baseball and it's your Chicago White Sox twenty
one game losing streak, AM counting. I want you to
rank the worst three baseball teams that you can remember. So,
(35:31):
I mean we're as I remember, like the eighty seven
or eighty eight Orioles started to own twenty one. Take
it in whatever direction you want, Yeah, I mean you
can throw the bad news Bears in there for all
we care.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
All right, what's gonna throw the bad news bears in there?
No question, bad news Bears would be one, These white
soxs would be two, and then uh, the dem bums.
Uh Brooklyn Dodgers. Right, Brooklyn Dodgers are the bums? Does
that'd be three? I don't know what year it was,
but they were really bad before the game World Series shape.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
Oh okay, you know, theoretically you could go with the
New York Mets, the nineteen sixty two New York Mets,
I suppose too. Sure, the old Cleveland Spiders were who
only knows, but let me let me, let me, let
me see here. So the nineteen oh five Brooklyn Dodgers,
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who were known as the superbuzz back then, had a
record of forty eight wins and one hundred and four losses.
They also tied three times, so they are right in
the mix as well. So there you go. That is
your rankum for today.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
I got game.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
This is game time on the Dug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to you from the
tireq dot com studios.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
All right, cople of next, We'll keep.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
You updated on what's going on here with with you
say basketball? At the end of the first quarter, thirty
three to twenty one is the score? So offense not
a problem for the Americans against the against the Brazilians.
Next hour, TJS Benzata will join us. Next hour we'll
(37:16):
do let's ask the coach and next next hour we'll
also talk about renan Ayuk again. I think he's a
really talented wide receiver. Is he talented enough to kind
of put the brakes on everything for the Niners?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
No?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
So do the Niners want to move him? Or are
they simply positioning themselves to get him back? We've got
to tackle that topic. So did there tackle that topic?
Tackle that topic? Plus we have all these preseason games
getting ready to get in away this week. Okay, this
is the one of the old football is really really
really really back. Okay, really really back. The kind of
(37:57):
catch twenty two about it all is coming up next,
where there is one thing that unites us all as
football fans, no matter how divided we are as a
country politically, and how divided we are on the teams
that we like, there's one thing that unites us. You
want to know what that is? I'll tell you next
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