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August 6, 2024 42 mins

On a Tuesday edition of The Best Of The Doug Gottlieb Show: Doug talks about Team USA's quarterfinal game against Brazil and how Steve Kerr has been unfairly maligned during these Olympic games. 

Doug and the crew do a session of "Hold On, Ask The Coach".

Doug welcomes prolific podcaster John Middlekauff onto the show to talk about the Brandon Aiyuk situation, Tua Tagovailoa, and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.

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Throughout this show, we will be giving you live updates
of tamusa's quarterfinal matchup against Pracil Prazil. I'm always torn
in talking about countries and how you pronounce their name, right,
do you pronounce the way they want us to they
pronounce their name or the way we do, Like, do
say France or do you say France. It's like I've

(01:09):
never understood stood that we will say France and then
yet when we're talking about soccer, we'll talk about the
pitch and kits.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
And the other things that aren't American expressions.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
If we do the American pronunciation of stuff, we do
American pronunciation of stuff. If you're gonna do the foreign
pronunciation stuff, you gotta do the foreign pronunciation of everything. Yeah,
Like you can't just go into Mexico instead of Mexico
and then everything else you pronounce as a normal gringo
white person.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm making sense on this one. I feel like I am.
I actually I know that I am. But here we are, and.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Team USA is going to tip off against Brazil and
Steve Kerr still getting criticized for his rotations or whatever.
Whereas now you get Brazil, a team that's not as
strong as Arrest, not as strong as they've been, and
you get kind of a one game by before you
probably get Serbia again, right, And then you saw Canada

(02:09):
lost to France. So it's all setting up for USA
France in the finals, which would be amazing in Paris, amazing,
you know, And like I told you, guys, I understand
that the Canadian team on paper had the best NBA
players in comparison to everybody else not named Team USA.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But it's not NBA style basketball.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
It's just not, never has been, never will be, and
I think it's amazing things really interesting. It's like people
keep being critical of USA basketball and they haven't really
been challenged at all.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
He's pushed all the right buttons.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It'd be one thing if they were struggling, but they're
not struggling, So why are we being.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Critical of it?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Like dial yourself back to every previous Olympics, even in
the Redeemed Team era, and they've been challenged by different teams.
And I'm of the belief that the game against Serbia
in the Semis, where I'm not saying they threw the
first game, but the first game they didn't make a
ton of adjustments and we hit every shot we threw
like Kevin rant literally couldn't play any better.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
And it'll be different.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
They didn't play, you know, they didn't play the league's
three time MVP all that much. And when they did
it was an even game.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So what do you think they're gonna do?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Right, Yo, Kisch is gonna play a ton and will
need mb to play better. And all those people that
have been rightfully critical of me to understand that he's
being brought and kept on this trip really for that
one game, maybe even two. Can they get by in
the other games that they look good without them? But

(04:00):
in order to be yo kich, they got to match
up with Yo Kitsch. You need a legit center, if
nothing else, to absorb the five poules that he gets.
And it's really easy to be critical of Steve Kerr
until you understand the monumental challenge of trying to win
all these games in which the only thing that can
happen is bad, the only thing if you win, you
don't really get all that much adulation.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
If you lose, it's the end of the world.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And yet they've won every game going away very very
handily and look good doing it, and yet still not
enough for some people. Still not enough, right, we weren't
good at the World Cup. There have been times in
which we've been called out as being passed internationally. We're
winning all these games well into double figures, and yet

(04:47):
Steve Kerr is getting the man you should have played
Jason Tatum in the first game against the serbs.

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Speaker 2 (05:21):
All right, quick rundown of some of the things that
are upcoming on the show.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
We'll talk about Jim Harbaugh and what he said about
the notice of allegations from the NCAA job Middlekaff will
join us. We'll ask him about this latest and the
Brandon IOK thing. Plus maybe by the top of the
next hour maybe he's traded or maybe he's not. We
also have TJ Ashmundzada will join us next hour, and
I think we're gonna do a little let's ask the coach.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Ax.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
The coach's a there's a big distinction between the two,
big distinction between the two.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know, I gotta admit I got a little lazy
last night.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
There.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Jay Suo, my nephew gages in town, and as is
the case with so many young people, he's not really.
He's like the Dan Byer of all of the young people.
I mean, he doesn't watch a lot of movies like
Dan Is. Actually this actually plays younger because dan Is
the guy's like, yeah, I don't watch a lot of movies.
I watched series, which is what most people do now,

(06:21):
but he watched We watched pulp Fiction two nights ago.
So I was like, oh, we got to watch some
of these classic ones. I started going into all the
different classic movie Shashank Redemption, never seen it, Green and Mile,
never heard of it, Godfather always wanted you haven't seen
it anyway? But then I did get lazy in the
movie selection. It was a good movie, but man, was
I missing you because I was thinking about the complete

(06:43):
fundamental flaw.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Of the movie.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Do you remember the movie Bone Collectors saw it?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Wants Who's that?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Donzel Denzel and a young Angeline and Jolie yep, young
Angelina and Jolie and Denzel. They I don't think they
really said why, but he had some disease in his spine,
you know, that was causing him to have these seizures,
and ultimately they thought he.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Was going to die or end up a vegetable.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But he was paralyzed from the neck down, and there
was nothing wrong with the movie outside of the fact
that they had to in the last couple of scenes
making a love story between Angeline and Jolie and Denzel Washington,
Like you're doing.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Great to the did you have to?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Not?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Really, There's always got to be a love hook, Doug.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Why.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
It's like it's a kind of a prerequisite. It's it's
it's a it's like a tenet of movies. You gotta
have some kind of love interest.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Why, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
To appeal to the people that don't care for it.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Actually took it, took out it took out good movie
and made it kind of super cheesy.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
It's been a while since I've seen Bone Collector, but
I remember watching it and think and thinking it was good.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
There's just like no reason to include it, right because
other than Angelaine, other than young Angela A, Jolie's hot
and at the time, Denzel Washington was the biggest actor
in Hollywood. Right, But there's literally no no need at
all to create a love story when when it didn't
have to exist, and.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
If it's developed at the end of the film, then it, yeah,
it would It's not.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
It developed slowly over time, like she put his hand
or hand on his when he was like he could
he could control his finger a little bit to change,
you know, to look at all these these documents and pictures.
But like we go to like full on love story
at the end, like I don't.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Know, hand on hand for support could easily be you know,
perceived as friend zone.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But there was a look after the hand on hand.
And later on the movie they came they came back
to the hand on hand. It was clear that they
made him into a couple. I don't know, just I
just my bigger thing was I got worn down by
the process of ooh, let's go see some movies.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Let's check it out. Went to Amazon, started scrolling through.
It was like that one's fine. I kind of settled,
and I'm not a settler normally.

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play less acts the coach.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
There's a question that needs an answer, and the answer
is if only there was someone with the authority and
the wisdom to give us that answer.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The head coach, I get to set the schedule.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Hold on, let's ask the coach, I think what sells
that stage? Or is the uh? The referee whistle? Hold on,
and then the referee whistle. Everyone knows that it's you know,
this is going to be a coaching hold.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
On, hold on, yeah, we got it, we got yeah.
Hold up.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
This submitted on Twitter coach. Not only did go Beart
Rudy Gobert not start today, he wasn't even the choice
for backup center as Lazore played one quarter minutes over him.
Reminds me of one that t Wolves decided to close
with Towns read over him. Feels like, for whatever reason,

(11:17):
he always finds himself in this situation. Now, Doug, I
will add this. I think Gobert is dealing with a
finger injury. Not sure what finger or what kind of
an injury, but I think that might be.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, he had a broken finger, just located finger or whatever.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
He barely played and so I but maybe the essence
of the question is still legit. Doesn't Gobert find himself
in these situations where he's not on the floor and
important minutes of NBA games and international games?

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Does have a tendency to happen to him?

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yes, because he he was as good as he is defensively,
and really good defensively in FIBA competition. He can't score
in a low post and he can't shoot. So if
you can score in a low post in Foeba, you're
a lot more valuable than you are in the NBA
or in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
You gotta be able to roll or pick and pop.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
So he can he can do he He doesn't really
help you offensively at all in Phoeba's top basketball.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Get another question, I will you go on?

Speaker 8 (12:25):
I do all right, coach, I want you to explain
your gay Dear coach, I want you to explain your
philosophy of dealing with the refs when the season starts this.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Fall MM, dealing with them.

Speaker 8 (12:44):
Now getting the getting the most favorable success in terms
of you know, you know what do you get on them?
Do you not get on them? Just the way you,
I guess, advocate for the best possible treatment of your
team by the refs.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Green Bay is gonna have a good team this year, right,
I thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. I agree
with that. Well.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
My first rule is for the by language of our
players to be excellent.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Right, we need big time by language.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
If we don't have the right by language, it doesn't
really matter, right, So by language is huge, huge, And
then for me, I just think, you know, it's trying
not to show anybody up, try not to embarrass them.
I'm sure I'll have there'll be some guys that will
come in and want to make a name for themselves

(13:39):
by you know, seeing if they can team me up
or something. I don't know, like have I been tough
on revs? Sure most of those guys are refs at
at higher level than that. I don't necessarily know a
bunch of these guys, and I just I feel like
you set a presence of not being a complainer and
simply having conversations with the refs. But like, man, I

(14:00):
dealt with AAE rest the last eight years. Okay, those
are guys making fifteen twenty a game, So I think
the current guys that will be officiating college games will
be a lot better off, and I have a lot
more patience with them.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, sure, so I like it.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I have question, Doug jam you, being a former player
a college basketball player, how do you what do you
tell your players in terms of nutrition and diet and
like especially like date game day, day of the game,
before the game, pregame meals, but like just in general
to avoid this or eat that. What do you what
do you tell your guys.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, you can't. You can't micro manage everybody. You do
have pregame meal. And what I've been solely but truly
trying to preach to these guys is the need to
get away from carplex complex carbs. You know, obviously none
of them, none of them drink soda anyway, but you know,
drinking a ton of water, and then you know supplements,
and then day of games and you know you're you're

(15:01):
eating some normal you know, some carbs with vegtfruits and vegetables,
but I don't believe in like rice or or any
sort of pasta in the pregame meal. So whatever your
natural routine is, I want you to keep it. The
one thing that we'll do that's different and this doesn't
have pertain to eating, is we'll practice twice a day
on most days.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
You know, got more an hour.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
In the morning, you know, more skill based and kind
of maybe walk through some different things.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
And then the evening when we.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Practice it'll be just five on five anyway, that'll I
think more closely mirror what we do on game days,
where we have like an active I don't like to
call it a walk through, it's a workout in the
morning and then we come back and we play at night.
So the eating will be the same there, the rhythm
of it will be the same. The only difference is
the length of the night sessions a little bit longer

(15:48):
because it's a real game.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
What about halftime? How do you how do you dictate.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The rotate orange slices? Orange slices?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Do moms the mothers of the players.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Question?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, you got to know which team mom brings the
good juice boxes and which team mom doesn't.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Who's bringing the caprices?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Totally right, capri Son sunny d Then you got to
have like fruit roll ups. You wouldn't believe what kids
have now with these like post game things. They get
like a little brown baggy with candy and stuffs.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
Come a niche industry, it's it's become a niche industry.
It's become a how can I one up the other parents?
It's it's parents showing off is what it does.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, well it's I I think where it started to
be honest was the is the party party gift, party favors,
party favors right where like we're having a little we're
having a birthday party for.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
A little Jimmy swag bag.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Right, We're having a birthday party for a little Jimmy,
so you bring a president for little Jimmy, and I
have to give you a present for coming to my
kid's birthday party.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Does anybody else find flaw with that?

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I grew up with this rule. And you can go
to doors like party City and find just an entire
wall of party favors and it's pretty cool. Not gonna
lie I grew up with the party favorite bag.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Because you grew up in the party You grew up
in the party favorite generation.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yep, you are any more questions for coach.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
I just need to add some commentaries. So I grew
up playing soccer in the wait seventies and our coach
used to take me to games in his pickup truck
that I used to ride in the back of the
pickup truck with no seat belts, and we would if
we if we did get water at the games, it
would be the host. Every once in a while there

(17:40):
would be a parent that would bring the uh the
after the game. But when I started coaching my kid,
I noticed that all teams had a mandatory rotation of
postgame treats and they were susceptible to be judged. There
were those lazy parents that would be like, I'm just
gonna order a pizza a mid game and hopefully it'll

(18:01):
be here by the end of the game. But it's
a fascinating thing to think about.

Speaker 8 (18:07):
What a racket.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
I think it's really interesting that a couple of different
things here. Right, you grew up in that same same
time zone when I did. In terms of the soccer thing,
it has become a complete and total racket. Right, And
also did you, I'm sure same. You grew up, you

(18:31):
ran underneath the tunnel where all the parents have the tunnel.
You grew up, and you run out the tunnel. Oh,
the tunnel, and you get the victory tunnel on the
and and even if you lose, you go through the
tunnel after. Kids look more forward to the tunnel when
they do the actual sport.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I didn't have the tunnel. Is that where the parents
make a tunnel? Will they get their arms?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I never did that. No, I never did that.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Never did that.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, I don't know. I think he's just old, too
old for that.

Speaker 8 (18:55):
We would have had that when I was a kid.
Some of the parents would have smacked me as I
ran by for all the mistakes I used to make.
By the way, do people just ever go to Dairy
Queen after games anymore?

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Or has that been lost to history?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I thought it was. I thought it was Shaky's Pizza.
Wasn't that what you did, Shaky's round table?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
I think too many people over the years were sued
if you tried to organize something like that and some
got hurt on the way, then they get they get
the lawsuit. Something something happened to those postgame get together
on the shame.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
I remember my baseball coach, like when I played, you know,
T ball or little league baseball, if we played really
well and got the win, we'd each get a slice
of pizza and a Minnesota. That was like what we
look forward to.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I remember my dad used to, uh, we'd always I'd
go to the pizza parties after games whatever. And the
big thing with the pizza parties after the games, though,
were the begging for the quarters for the video games, right,
and then you just stand there playing Galiga. Back there
somebody else is playing Miss pac Man. And then they
put the they put the game on and this is
more a tackle football. They put the game on the

(19:58):
big screen. But the big screen had the three different lights.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Oh right for the projectory.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, the three there was like red, green, and blue,
and there's these three big lights that went up on
the projector big screen. And nobody paid attention to the
game because all you were doing was begging for quarters
and putting your quarter on a machine because you were
up next. Because it was the closest you can get
good to go into a real arcade, was going to
the pizza place arcade. This is what was like, Sam,

(20:25):
This is the real hard knocks that we grew up in, right,
somehow we made it.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
We survived. We did, we survived.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
I think I'm closer to like your guys's experiences in
your generation than I am too like the kids who
are seventeen eighteen years old and what they experience.

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to what Jim Harbaugh said about the NCAA allegations against
him in a moment, but first let's welcome in John Middlecoff,
NFL Nalysts, host of the Three and Out podcast. Let's
start with the Brandon IUK situation, which apparently they're going

(21:57):
to re engage in some trade talks. Ultimately, do you
see Kyle and John Lynn shipping him out?

Speaker 9 (22:05):
Well, I think yesterday in the last you know, twelve
eighteen hours.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Has kind of been them drawing a line in the
fans like, we're not playing this game, Brandon. You know,
this is this is our option, this is this is
your contract we're offering you. You know, regardless of all
these other contracts, this is our number. And if not,
here are the teams that we'd accept their trade. And
I think the problem for them and I think Schefter

(22:32):
just reported that the Steelers have re engaged an extra
first round pick. Let's just say in theory is incredible
in March and April, right going into the draft, when
you got two picks, when you are a team that
has thirteen plus wins and Super Bowl aspirations, having an
extra first round pick in August doesn't.

Speaker 9 (22:52):
Do you any good. Like to me, the.

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Only trade to me that they'd entertain if they go
this guy's never going to sign our contract would be
the Browns and Amari Cooper. But even that it's a
little complicated because I mean, a Mario you could plug
and play and he could give you very similar production,
if not even better, but he doesn't block as well.
In two, you're giving a team in the Browns, you know,

(23:18):
a younger player who they're going to lock up. So
you'd also probably need a second day pick, and if
you're the Browns, given I was just looking getting ready
for the podcast. I mean they're paying obviously to Shaun Aton,
Miles Garrett a Ton, and Denzevielle Award.

Speaker 9 (23:33):
I don't know if you can really afford to give
picks away.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Wouldn't you just be better off rolling with Amari Cooper?

Speaker 9 (23:39):
And if you're you.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Know, the Patriots are somewhat I guess of an option,
but if you're a Yuke, you don't want to go
play there.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
So I think they're kind of trying to kind of
force him between, like we need a resolution here.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Ideally we want you to stay, but we can't keep
going on like this.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I think nothing will wake you up more than hey, dude,
your options are stay here or will ship you to
the Patriots.

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Exactly because his deal was like I want to go
play watching him with my buddy and Adam Peters like, yeah,
we're not interested.

Speaker 9 (24:12):
They shouldn't be. They're not a player away. Why would
you trade a good pick or the Steelers?

Speaker 7 (24:17):
And it's like even if the Steelers offer their first
round pick, like I said in theory, that's good, but
for the Niner, what does that.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Do for them week one against this, no question.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
And the problem is, and I think the problem is,
they probably would have entertained, you know, first round picks
in early March after the combine, but no one was
offering that, Like why because this guy's not DeVante Adams
or Tyreek Hill. So I get he looks at these
other guys, but I'm sorry, DDMoRe is a better player.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
You know, I'm on Saint Brown. He'd argue, I'm just
as good.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Well, yeah, he produces a lot more, so you can
say you're just as good.

Speaker 9 (24:57):
That's a hypothetical.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
This guy has actually produced his r why for his
money is much higher? You and I have talked about this,
the way they run their offense. I defend the Niners
on this one. I don't think he's worth this crazy
amount of money given they have a lot of other
high priced guys moving forward. I mean, Debo has done
more in big spots than Ay or equally as much,

(25:21):
and he makes way less. So it just it kind
of gets Belichick was always really good at this balancing
out who he broke off. But no one looks weird
when they give Christian McCaffery a race. Of course, they
did or when eventually they give Trent a big race.
I think when you get Ayyuk, who clearly they all like,
and he's immediately the highest paid player on the team,

(25:42):
I think you've got to be careful with that type stuff.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Dander Great Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
John Milkoff is our guest three and out as his
podcast it is awesome. You need to download it. Okay,
let's bounce around the league a little bit. What about
the Jets and Hassan Reddick? How do you think they
come to resolution there?

Speaker 7 (26:04):
Well, this is I can't understand, Doug that the reason
he was available was well known. You knew it, I
knew it, fans knew it.

Speaker 9 (26:14):
Like he had.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Issues with contract. He wanted more money. So when you
trade for a guy like that, this is Brandon, you're
not trading for him just like, yeah, we'll figure it out.
You immediately extend. So when you trade for a guy
like Reddick, if you don't have a contract, why do
you think he's just going to be immediately happy? He
was on a better team before. He just wanted more

(26:35):
money and the Eagles chose not to give him. You know,
another I guess they originally signed him, I think in
free agency years ago, and.

Speaker 9 (26:41):
They're like, yeah, we're not going to sign.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
You to another contract. So what made Joe Douglas? And
this is the type stuff that just makes you look dumb.
He is not having a resolution at the point of
the trade, and clearly maybe they're uncomfortable giving them more money.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
But shouldn't you know that before you rate.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
A third round pick for the guy that's like, I
just don't understand. It makes absolutely no sense from the Jets,
and it looks like a policing.

Speaker 9 (27:11):
That the Eagles got rid of a problem.

Speaker 7 (27:13):
Actually signed one of the Jets players, huff pass Rusher
to their teams like, what are we doing?

Speaker 9 (27:19):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
And you know, everyone I know loves Joe Douglass saw
it seems like a great guy. But it does feel
I mean they're a little over their heads, doesn't not.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Oh they feel a lot over their heads, a lot
a lot over their heads, always have.

Speaker 7 (27:36):
They got lucky that the Rogers situation just kind of
fell in their lap. If it wasn't for that, what
the hell would be I mean, if the situation would
be a lot leaker. I know they got some good
young players. But Zach Wilson picks an all time disaster
in this reddick thing, especially after the year that they
just have coming off the Rogers injury. He would think

(27:59):
he would just try to be as smooth as possible
acquiring players. And this is just another situation and a
bigger picture thing. And listen, I'm not trying to overreact here,
but every Cliff I've seen a Baron just in practice
on my NFL networks, he looks like a forty year
old guy coming off an achilles moved.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
His arm's the same, but I think.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
His movement, remember that last year in Green Bay, he
wasn't quite as spry as he was a couple of years.
I think he's gonna be a lot slower, and that's
something to keep an eye on. Part of his greatness,
a huge part.

Speaker 9 (28:33):
Of it is I mean, he's.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
Got to be the greatest thrower on the run in
the history of the league. I mean, Montana was great
on the move, but he did not have the Rogers
arm and maybe young l Way, but I mean, if
that's gone, it does limit their ceiling, right, And I
just I think we have to be prepared. You know,
when Manning fell off a cliff. They did it in

(28:56):
Breaze because their arms started leaving. It's somewhat similar that
Aaron can't play from within the pocket.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
But movement was a.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
Huge part of his dominance as a definitely a regular
season player.

Speaker 9 (29:08):
So I think that's something to.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Keep an eye on that you're going to get a
forty year old guy that if ten out of ten.

Speaker 9 (29:13):
Maybe he was a ten out of ten, but.

Speaker 7 (29:15):
In terms of scrambling it was pretty high end. What
if that has now gone from a nine, not eight
and a half, to like a four or five.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
That'd be amazing.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I mean, that would be stunning, and it would obviously
change dramatically how he would be able to play and
how much he'd have to stay into the pocket. I
think we have to look for it. Some interesting comments
coming out of Pittsburgh talking about how dynamic a weapon
Justin Fields is. Can we read anything into that? I mean, again,
I'll just give you my read is they want to

(29:46):
use him as a slash. But it's not like Russell
Wilson setting the world on fire. But I don't think
I don't think Justin Fields is the answer for anything.
Any read into those comments come out of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 9 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean, it's not an ideal comment. I thought
the headline yesterday.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
The problem for them is they have the declining older
superstar in Russell and a guy that everyone's gonna want
to see that I want to see.

Speaker 9 (30:14):
But there is a.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
Chance that certain guys just are who they are, and
there's no matter how good a coach Arthur Smith is,
there's nothing much you can do the good thing for
the Steelers, And they're paying these two guys that combine
not much money, and both of them are going to
be free agents, so it's not like they're tied to either.

Speaker 9 (30:30):
One of these guys. But this is a chance.

Speaker 7 (30:33):
And this is why to me, if I'm the Steelers,
I would not be that interested because if I'm the Niners, like,
you're not giving me a player. I need your first
round pick if you want Brandon.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
I don't think the.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
Steelers can afford to give a first round pick when
next year they might have to be one of those
teams if they go, you know eight to nine or
nine and eight kind of the same place they've been
for a while now. To be in a position to
trade up for a quarterback, you can't get rid of
your assets, and I think they have to realize, Yeah,
this quarterback situation in theory is a lot cooler, and

(31:06):
I had a lot more bizazz and name powered in
the last couple of years.

Speaker 9 (31:10):
But the outcome might not be that.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Different, right, No, I don't think so, it might not
be that different. It's the Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
John Middlecoff is our guest settling now on those new
quarterback contracts from last week?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Where are you on TUIs contract?

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Same spot I've been, I think, and it shows why
they quadrupleed down on Tyreek Hill. They have no choice, right,
I mean, he's so dependent on those two guys. I
just I think it's a grave overpay. I get there
is value in having a guy that you know you
can function with, but given that conference, I just think

(31:54):
that you have such a disadvantage as the season goes
in January.

Speaker 9 (31:58):
Or excuse me, not even a jam anywhere.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
In November and December, given the good teams in your conference,
given how talented their quarterbacks are, And I'll just never
understand why there isn't just tears, like what is wrong
with paying what he made instead of giving him what
he made? Giving him what Alex Smith used to make
relatives of Rogers and Peyton and Tom Brady. Actually Tom

(32:23):
made West, but Rothlisberger or whatever.

Speaker 9 (32:24):
Right, But that's not how it works.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
And I think a lot of these teams get themselves
in these tough spots.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
Say what you want about Dak. I've seen Dak at.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Least late in the season, beat the Eagles, like beat
other good teams. Now he's failed in the playoffs, but
at least you know you can win a lot of
regular season games with him, Like I don't even know
that about Tua, Like last year was pretty best case
because how well they started would have instead of starting
you know, eight and two or whatever, they seven and one,
he starts.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
Four and four. It gets harder as the weather.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Chains does Doug gottlib show here on Fox Sports Tradio
that's the voice of John Middlecoff three Now is in
fact the podcast. I do want to ask you, as
somebody who's that lover of all things sports, what do
you make of.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
The team USA. We're getting ready to watch them tip off.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
And there have been plenty of people who were bothered
that Jason Tatum didn't play in the first game against Serbia,
and then to a lesser extent, Joe emb didn't play
in game two. We've seen Drew Holliday miss a game.
Halliburton didn't play in that first game.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
What do you think?

Speaker 7 (33:32):
And hal kerr is doing Yeah to me, I can't
even fathom the complaining. You know, it's not coming from
Jason Tatum.

Speaker 9 (33:40):
It's coming from everyone on the outside, especially.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
When he went to him before the game. This is
not an NBA game. This has nothing to do with
the NBA Finals. He's not playing behind Doug Gottlieb. I
mean the game one, it was Kevin Durant, I'm sorry,
who was red hot. And the second game I don't
have the Luwell Saying scouting report on his squad, but
it sure looked like they had a bunch of wings

(34:03):
that weren't a lot of bigs.

Speaker 9 (34:05):
So why would you play him with a lumbering center.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Who had been awful and let's face it looks out
of shape. The other thing, I get offended a lot
as or with this team on paper like in their primes,
would be incredible.

Speaker 9 (34:19):
Obviously Lebron step and Kevin Durant, but.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
The ninety two team, the depth of the team I
would say because.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
Larry was old and back was shot, Magic was old.

Speaker 7 (34:29):
But Michael was in when the peak of his powers,
and I'm sorry, Charles Barkley was also in the peak
of his powers, and he's better than most of these.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Other guys at the time.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
So like, I get, it's not Apple's apples, given how
much better the world is.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
But Lebron's forty years old, you know, step God love him,
but it does feel like he's kind of closer to
the whole eighteen than he is the turn here. So
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (34:55):
I mean, I just some of these arguments are just
they're just kind of exhausting. But it's very kind of NBA,
Like Joe emb didn't play yet they won by twenty
five against the team with no centers.

Speaker 9 (35:05):
I'm sorry, what's the big deal here?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I don't. I don't know what it is either.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
We live in the weirdest society where even when you're
clearly right, you're still not right because you didn't completely
acquiesce to every player.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
And the other thing is Doug all the arguments about
Jalen Brown, who's turned into a fantastic player. But you
can't just have twelve, Kevin Durant on the team. And
I'm not saying Jalen Brown's Kevin Durant. I was walked
in when they were playing South du Dan.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
I mean, whites is unreal.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
He would play on every good team over the last
thirty plus years in the NBA. Like you need guys.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Let's say, it's not just it's not just that you
do one. If he doesn't play, he's not gonna say
word too. He's I don't think people understand how big
he is and how good he is and how different
the game is. You know, it's like Canada loss today
to France, and I tell people, like this is what's
gonna happen. Everybody think Canada is good because they have
all these players that are talented.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
In the NBA, it's like a different sport.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
So I think about why the Warriors, even before Kevin
Durant showed up there when they hit their stride for.

Speaker 9 (36:13):
Those two years, it was Stephen Clay and then they.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Had Draymond and Andre With these teams Michael Jordan, had
Ron Harper, I mean, you've got to have role players,
whether it's an NBA game, whether it's Team.

Speaker 9 (36:26):
USA, Like that's part of the world.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
You can't just have everyone thinking they're going to score
twenty five points.

Speaker 9 (36:32):
That's not the way it works.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Nope, Nope, that's not a team. Johnn you're the best man.
I appreciate you joining us.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
B Doug stug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Joel
Embiid knocks down a three pointers that up five to four.
You know it is interesting eitherough, didn't you say that
women do the women advance in.

Speaker 8 (36:53):
Basketball, women's soccer.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Women's soccer.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
I haven't done it intentionally so, but I can tell
you that I haven't watched a segal play of the
women playing one because my expectations are there much better
than their competition.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
But two, if Kaitlin Clark was playing, I would watch.
I would watch.

Speaker 8 (37:17):
Yeah, they're playing Nigeria tomorrow in their quarterfinal round.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Sam, have you watched a single second of the women's
because you are for people to haven't.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Listened to us.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Sam is all in on the WNBA because he's all
in on Kaitlin Clark. Have you watched even a second
of the women's national team play?

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yes, yes, I believe one of the first one or
two games we had it on in here and I
was watching.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Were you paying attention? Was it the same or different?

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Well?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
How did you feel without watching your girl Kayler? Caitlin?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
They're going to dominate either way. So I wasn't able
to watch it with like sound on and I could
only glance up to see what the score was. But
they're taking care of business. Yeah, Caitlyn getting in would
boost the ratings and probably help with the attendants. But
alas she's not here. I think that time offer her

(38:11):
is really good. I think that they were actually this, Oh.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, I actually did. They did totally. I think he
probably did her a favor.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
She got to go a little vacation, get back to practice,
kind of just get her sea legs back under her.
So I think this was mutually beneficial.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Let's get to this.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
So, so Jim Harbaugh had to answer some questions about
the allegations and all this is the NC allegations and
the findings from the Connor stallions thing, and some of
that is like he didn't want to turn over his
cell phone. You know, they got him on a bunch
of little different minor NCAA violations or whatever. The big
one is that they had, you know, all these practices

(38:48):
and sideline passes that Connor Stallions had been a part
of the Michigan football program.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Here's Jim Harbaugh practice yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
I do have a comment on that never lie, never cheat,
never steal. I was raised with that lesson. I have
raised my family on that lesson. I have preached that
lesson to the teams that I've coached. No one's perfect.
If you stumble, you apologize, and you make it right. Today,

(39:19):
I do not apologize. I did not participate, was not
aware nor complicit in those set allegations.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Do you believe him? That's the question.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Do you believe I did not?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
You don't know Jase do.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
No.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
I don't believe him. I do like him as my
head coach of the Chargers, but I don't believe. I
want to quote both schambeck Wer here. Both sham beck Wer,
former Michigan head coach, said this one. At some point,
when someone uncovers a scandal in their company, I don't
think they can say that they don't know what was
going on. They're just saying they are too dumb to

(40:03):
do their job. And if they are really too dumb,
then why are they getting paid millions? Of dollars to
do it. They know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
It's fair.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
I think it's a fair assumption to make. Do we
believe that Jim Harbaugh is a liar previous to this?
Do you think he tells They think he fabricates things
in any way?

Speaker 4 (40:25):
I don't think there's been a track record now. He's
been very consistent.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So why do we think he's lying now?

Speaker 6 (40:33):
For I think that's the reason I read the Schambeker thing.
I don't think you can run a program and be
the alpha that he is without knowing everything that's going on,
or at least a hint of what's going on. You know,
when people say stuff like I know nothing of what
was going on, it always kind of raises the red

(40:56):
flag with me. It was like when Deshaun Watson early on,
when the first when the story first came out about
his creepy stuff with Massuse's, He's like, I've never once
disrespected a woman, And to me that raised a red flag, Like,
why would you say that what's going on.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
There never once disrespected himen? Sounds incredibly impossible.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Rightly impossible, because you don't know what.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I tend to agree with you. It seems far fetched.
I do learn about just about everything going on. There
are some things that do surprise me, but I'm a
a I don't want to surprise the sort of guy. Also,
I would you know the size and the vast the
program at Michigan is.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
So much more vast.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
I'm willing to believe there are some things that he
doesn't know about that he doesn't have time for. I
don't know if this.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Is one of them.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
But the biggest defense is that none of us believe
We can say he's weird, but he's.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Always been a man of his word.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
He's pushed the gray area, but he hasn't gone in
the black and white area. So I tend to believe him,
mostly because he hasn't given me any reason not to
believe him previously. Even if it's fairly unbelievable that he
wouldn't know everything that's going on with the Zone program,
I'm willing to believe that because of how.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Big that program actually is.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
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