August 7, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug talks about the reported discord between Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni and quarterback Jalen Hurts, and explains how Jalen Hurts likely shares in the blame for the issue. Doug weighs in on the Steelers' quarterback situation. Doug and crew get into why women's basketball is not garnered any interest in the Olympics. Plus, Monse Bolanos takes Doug through a game of "Is He Aiight?"
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rope on Jim Harbaugh, and that's not even discussing the
issues that Jim Harbaugh has because of the sign stealing.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We'll get to that upcoming.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Mike Tomlin has addressed this quarterback competition, which.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It feels like it's more competitive than it should have been.
But yeah, Justin Fields is going to play and Russell
Wilson's not, but he's got a calf injury. Rapid radios
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the news of the day is not good. It's out
of Philadelphia where apparently Nick Sirianni is George Costanza in
the relationship with Jalen Hurts. That's the kid Stanga, right,
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those two guys just don't get along. And what It's
fascinating to me because Sirianni is a very easy and
unlikable target. Right, we can all admit that unless you're
an Eagles fan, I don't know anybody's like you know who.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I really like Nick Sirianni. He's not annoying at all.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
He wants all the you know one, all the heat,
takes all the heat, loves being like a professional wrestler
out there and whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
This is sort of what comes with it. Now. I'm
not going to give Hurts a pass.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's because well, everybody I know in the sport has
told me the Jalen Hurts not easy to deal with,
not easy, has concocted and constructed a really, really good
public image. But the reality to it is he don't
read a defense great, not a progressive thrower. And you know,
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now he has all the power because of the new contract,
he doesn't exactly have to do what his coach wants
him to do. The new story from ESPN dot Com
points to a fundamental problem. The quarterback and the head
coach didn't get along, and per the report, the relationship
was fractured unhealthy in twenty twenty three. The issue arose
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from a disagreement on the vision of the offense. One
source described the situation as a lack of full respect
for Sirianni as an x and os tactician.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The implosion of the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Capped by a playoff loss to Tampa that sparked the
image of Jeffrey Lourie wearing a unique mask of bewilderment
and frustration.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Again, this is all from an ESPN dot com article
prompt in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Speculation that Sirianni would be fired, possibly for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, that didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The ESPN dot com story made it clear that if
things don't get better in twenty four, the coach or
the quarterback could both be gone in twenty five. But
we all know how this works. The coach goes first,
then the quarterback goes second. But I'm telling you that
this is a Jalen Hurts kind of pattern.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Public image is great, good looking, great smile. He's got
his whole kind of thing together in terms of how
he purports himself, but there's a limitation on just how
good he actually is. And when more is thrust on
his plate, he can't do it. And yeah, they were
dominant two years ago, but were they dominant because of
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Jalen Hurts. So they're down to because of the scheme
and the fact that they just put people on their
heels and they used him as a runner and now
people made him into a thrower and he's just not
that good. This, by the way, is what happens when
you give a player too much money too soon, and they
get too entitled and they think they.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Run the place.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We've had several people say the same, and it remains true.
You don't go from You don't go from.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
A guy who two full seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I said two and a half years ago, they're playing
Tampa in the playoffs. You're like, ye, they got to
find a new quarterback too, greatest quarterback ever, highest paid
guy in the league. Hey, we want him above everybody else,
Like nobody makes that kind of jump.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And Jalen Hurts, I believe, carries himself in a way
with the level of confidence slash arrogance that he doesn't
think his thinks his stuff stinks. And if there's something wrong,
it's got to be the coach, it's not the player.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And while Jeffrey Laurie.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Has hired good coaches and gotten good quarterbacks and done
the fact is that that they have pulled the trigger
before on quarterbacks and coaches when they didn't get along.
And it'll be really interested to see if there's anywhere
else they can side other than siding with the player.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like that contract makes it you're siding with the player.
It just does. So none of this surprises me.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's Jalen Hurts is almost always better than you think
he should be, and then once he gets to be
at the you know, once he gets kind of solidified,
then he becomes difficult to deal with. That's what happened
at Oklahoma, That's what happened in Alabama. That's my guess
the pattern of what's happening here in Philadelphia. And we
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always ask ourselves as coaches, is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Is it super important? Is he so good that you
can put up with him being a pain that you
know what? And it is interesting that there was a
lot of criticism of Carson Wentz for a long time.
There has not been that same level of criticism of
Jale Hurts now. Two years ago he had the type
of season you couldn't be critical of.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Last year you could be critical, but you could.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Also point out there's a lot of changes from one
year to the next, so his performance is paramount. But
we've all been around this thing long enough to know
or to guess that if somebody's going to go, the
first one to go is Sirianni. And Sirianni was an
odd fit to begin with, and Sirianni's always always been awkward,
And it does feel it feels.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like this is more of.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
A concocted image than his actual image. This is not
who Nick Sirianni truly is, just who he kind of
wants to be, which is walk around with some tough
guy Bravado and Jalen Hurts is calling BS. Here's Nick
Sirianni earlier today on this very same topic.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Jalen iront a really good place. Every relationship that you have,
it needs to work with everybody, and we've always continued
to try to.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Work with that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, that is not a denial. That's the opposite of
the denial. Let's say, yeah, we're gonna we'll be fine
no matter what. And again, I would guess I'm probably
the only guy who's gonna say this, So, Yeah, Sirianni
comes across like a dip you know what, dipstick night.
But Jalen Hurts has a long track record of people
going like he in jails about Jalen. You know, Jalens
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about Jalen. There's a lot of that Russell Wilson eye
rolling of it's figment of his creation. But that's an
interesting statement from Nick Seryann that is not in any
way of denial.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah we don't like each other, No, no, we.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Did not, But doesn't mean we can't be a good
football team, which I agree with.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
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Speaker 3 (08:16):
Interesting Justin Field is going to get the first start
for the Steelers in their preseason that because Russell Wilson's
nursing a bad calf muscle. Here's Mike Tomlin when he's
asked about Fields and his competition, I.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Think he just comes to compete every day. He's got
an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment, and
it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a really
good job of accla who made it himself to it
and his teammates and letting his talent show. I think
everything is an audition. Everything that we do is an audition,
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not only for him but for others.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I still don't buy that he's going to be their
starting quarterback day one, or that it's even close, but I.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Remember, the entire league had a chance to Justin Field's
making very little to no money this year, with not
much in terms of.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Trade value, and they all pass.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Now that doesn't mean that the entire league can't be dopes,
can't be idiots, but they saw something or know something
about Justin Fields, the quarterback that the Steelers are trying
to act like he maybe is overcome. I don't buy that.
I just don't. And it goes again goes back to
what we said about Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurst doesn't go
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from a guy you're like, yeah, I don't know, they
might want to move on to the greatest quarterback we've
ever seen. Justin Fields doesn't go from a yeah, Bears need.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
To get a new quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He can't really throw a football to oh my gosh,
he's gonna beat out Russell Wilson. So I think you know,
the name gets us excited, the fact that he was
a first round pick, a great player at Ohio State,
and a guy who had some moments with the Bears.
The reality is he has had the time to fix
all of his flaws. So if you think that the
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Steelers think he has, I think we're.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Taking the bait on that one. I think we're taking
the bait Stuck Gottlib Show.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, Okay, So if you are,
you know, Stuck Gottleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Unless you're hitting under Rock. You knew that the NCA
was investigating Michigan, but you probably thought they were just
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investigating Michigan for.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Stealing signs.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The NCAA announced today a four year show cause for
Michigan for Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh for in permissible
contact with recruits and players while access was restricted during
COVID nineteen pandemic, effectively banning him from college athletics until
August of twenty twenty four. The nca said that Harball,
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who left his all moder as coach of the LA
Chargers after last season's championship game, engaged in unethical contact,
failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance, and violated head
coaching responsibility ob obligations. The NCAA already put in Michigan
on three years of probation along with a fine for
recruiting limits. After reaching a negotiated resolution in the case.
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Harball did not go along with the agreement, disputing the allegations.
He failed to operate with investigators. His case was handled separately. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I look.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I work for a university that has to abide by
NCAA rules. There are lots of NCAA rules that don't
make any any sense. I have long been a proponent
of the rules of the NCAA, because like, look, they
were voted on and approved on by a majority of
the schools. So you can fight to change it, but
don't break a rule. Act like you're surprised. The COVID
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ones are a bit Darkonian, no doubt. And if we
think back to COVID I understand that you look at
it now and you're like, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That was ridiculous, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The realistic way of looking at it, I believe is
some of them were over the top of many of
them were meant with the right spirit in mind that
you didn't want to get people infected, that didn't mean
to be infected to bring it home to mom and
dad or somebody who was gimmunocompromiser. God forbid your grandma
and grandpa. And then it spreads and it kills them.
They have the right intention of heart to not always
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the right execution. But did you know, and I learned
this last week, I don't know, you are not allowed
to use exercise as punishment for a player performance or
scholastically or otherwise. Do you guys know that? In other words,
if a player gets in trouble, right player gets in trouble.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You can't run them.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Or make them new stadium steps or you know, we
used to these workouts called twenty fives at Oaklhom State
that were just impossible to do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You're not technically you're not allowed to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Now everyone I know violates that rule. Now it's supposed
to not as supposed to be a standalone workout only
for punishment. Right, there's a gray area there within it
and how you do it. The point is so many rules,
and one of the big rules is you're responsible as
head coach for everybody under your watch. And oh yeah,
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by the way, you got to completely disclose what you
do and why you do it, how you do it,
and give your cell phone.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And Jim Harbaugh wasn't going to.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is the Pete Carroll though Pete Carroll member was
s he was going on probation right as he left,
and you're wondering if forever leave and that was what
caused him to leave. So Harball is never coming back
to coach college anymore. Anyway, Why would you You won a
national championship game in your last game, it was at
your own monitor.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You left in a better place.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're good, but I don't think that he'd be done
fighting this one, because I do believe Jim is about
his ethics. You may not agree with them, but he's
pretty strong in terms of what he believes in his ethics.
The hard part is going to be the COVID stuff
where you just weren't allowed to have contact with people,
and they did, and lots of programs did and they
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got caught.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
They got caught.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
My take has always been, unless you're buying players, and
this is before the world of NI own even now,
like just I just don't like it now. But buying players,
I believe is different than compensating players, and compensating guys
that have established themselves and you know, they do some
appearances and whatever, and there's a reasonable rate there. Like
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just giving a kid money, especially back then before its legal,
against the rules, and doing anything to change somebody's grades
or take the test for him, that's unethical.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Those two.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I got no problem with you getting fired for other stuff.
What are we doing, What are we doing? What are
we actually doing? So I you know, and this has
nothing to do by the way, with sign stealings, So
there could be additional punishment I guess for sign stealing
but like, we're not allowing Jim Harbaugh to come to
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a party that he was no longer going to come to.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's like I already went to that Christmas party. I
don't need to go in again.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Like, Okay, I'm fine, you're you're suspended, you can't come anymore.
Like I'm not coming to your Christmas party. This is
Jim Harbaugh's attorney, Tom Mars. The way I see at
Coach Harbaugh's respective today's COI decision is like being in
your college and getting a letter from your high school
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saying you've been suspended because you didn't sign the yearbook.
If I were in Coach Harbaugh's shoes and had an
eighty million dollars contract of head coach of the Chargers,
I wouldn't pay any attention to the findings of a
kangaroo court which claims to represent the principles of the
nation's most flagrant repeat violators of antitrust laws.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I mean, look, Tom Mars obviously clearly a lawyer, and
he's dancing on the grave of the NCAA, and I
don't blame him. I think a stronger statement would have
been he is the most ethical coach in college football.
None of this has anything to do with reality. But
we made a bunch of money and you're a violator
of anti trust laws.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't know. You just asked him to hammer Michigan harder?
Is that what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And there is a certain sense of you can't win
with the NCAA. I get it, Mile Mounter Oklam State
felt like with basketball they cooperated fully and they still
got taken out of the nca tournament.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Still happened. It's a no gollip show.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, So Jay stew I was
wondering because this was something.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I felt like was kind of right up your alley, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Is is how we're watching now? And the US women's
national team is not drawing well or getting any attention,
And I guess this is one of those Do you
think if they could do it all over again, they
would include Kaitlyn Clark?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I mean, what's her face? What's the name of the
South Carolina's head coach Don Staley. I think she admitted
as much last week. I don't know if she was
admitting that in the context of the lack of interest.
I think she was just admitting that somehow Caitlyn Clark
got a lot better as a player in the last
few weeks and that changed her mind. But now I'm
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on record, I think on this show at the very
weast I said it on the podcast, I'm rooting against
our woman. Like I'm I'm I don't care about this
women's basketball team. In fact, it'll make a much better
story if they lose to Nigeria today. I mean that
that's our lead tomorrow if they if they lose Nigeria
tips off here in a couple of minutes. I'm rooting
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against our team so that we could have great content tomorrow.
The I told you so, you wouldn't have lost with
Kaitlyn Clark, or I told you so. This is why
you don't. I don't know. I don't even know what
they're the head coach's name is, but she has shown
she has shown such an arrogance around the whole Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Have you noticed though, And like, look, I don't think
it's intentional. Yeah, I don't think NBC not paying attention
to it is intentional. It's just not interesting. It's just
not interesting. Correct, And and you know they've done this
to themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They're still winning and they're still gonna win the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They're still the best team, but they're not interesting anymore.
There's nothing of that that's interesting. And if I'm sitting
there and I'm in a production meaning like, hey, do
we want to talk to the women's coach of youa
or do we want to talk to the guy who
the pole vaulter who hit his junk on the pole?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Like yeah, that guy.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
I mean, I think it's hard to say that she's
not doing it on purpose, or that I don't know
who's not doing purpose or what's the name of the
coach not Don Staley the other one that like, yes, she's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Doing it on purpose. I'm saying, Oh, I'm saying I
don't think. I don't think NBC, Like if you notice
that NBC, NBC and Peacock which is NBC, they're not
focused on the women's national team, not having the players
in studio, and I don't watch every moment, so I'm
if I'm mistaken, please tell me. But it's not a
talking point, not at all. We're not talking point about
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it at all. We're back to covering women's basketball the
way it's always been covered, where nobody really cares nobody
really pays attention. It doesn't matter that we're better than
everybody else, it's just what's the There is no ratings
boon from covering it, whereas with the men, clearly there is.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
And I also think the men's is kind of not
being covered as much. But I agree with you there
is a huge gap between the women and the men,
and it is interesting. Would this be the case if
Caitlin Clark was on the team.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Of course not. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So the Olympics are really more made for women. More
women viewers tune into the Olympics. It's not that men
don't watch the Olympics, but women watch a lot more
of the Olympics, and they're women that normally don't watch
sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I think that's the reason. Is because there's more
women participating in these sports, is why more women watch? Yes,
and no, I mean women don't necessarily aren't necessarily drawn
to sports with predominantly men in them. There are female
football fans out there, and.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know, Sam, I think you're talking about something you
have absolutely no statistical background for other than.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
A feeling that you're just wing. Yeah, you are your.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Eyeball unless you can improved because because what happens is
the reason.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Again, Doug, when you go to NFL game, do you
think it's a majority men or women in there?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's definitely definitely a dude's sport, right, Okay, but but women,
but the female audience in football is growing substantially, sure, but.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's definitely more men watching, like men watching men.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But like track and field, for example, the men any
Olympic sport, regardless of men and women, there is a
higher percentage of women watching as opposed to how many
women watch normal sports regardless where as men or otherwise. Okay,
it just is that's just again, we can we can
kind of track the eptomology, emtomology, eptology, the background of it, etymology. Yeah,
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if we want, like for a different podcast or something
like what Causes that was fine, okay, But the real again,
the reality to it is the.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Olympics are really more for female viewers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They just are guys will watch, but women watch the
Olympics and they love them and they do love them
for the females, for the women's stories. But also if
you look at the way that NBC has always broadcast
the Olympics, you know they have these short stories. They
tell people's backgrounds, you know, all this amazing stories of
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triumph and comebacks and et cetera. Like again, that is
more how women watch sports. Men watch sports are like
who can I bet on? How can I win money?
And give me the most violent thing possible? Like that's
how we watch Okay, So the point is that you
have this, You have a captivated female viewer that you've
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told I know you really like watching this woman play,
but we don't care. And now you throw a team
that we know is going to be successful and it's just.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Not deemed as likable.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And so again I don't think calculated thing where NBC's
sitting there going like, well, show Reeve didn't want Kaitlin Clark,
so we're not telling it, and we're not telling a
story about the women's team. It's just now the stories
are interesting and no one's watching.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Man, I didn't even think about that angle until you
guys talked about it, Like, I think it would be amazing.
It would make a great story. If NBC said, oh,
you don't want to include the most popular person on
the planet in sports right now, okay, then we just
won't cover your sport. That would be amazing. But I
think it goes back to your original point, Doug, that
the reason why nobody's paying attention now and nobody's going
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to these games now is the reason why the WNBA
has been largely ignored since it started. There just is
not a thirst or a hunger from the mainstream sports
fan for women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And Monts.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
You could disagree with me because I know you like
women's basketball, but I could just say from my standpoint
and anybody I hang out with, we don't go and
look for women's basketball because it isn't a great product.
Same reason I don't go and look for hockey. It's
just not to me entertaining. So if you're not going
to include Caitlin Clark, I'm going to root against you
in this regard.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
You're not wrong because I watched WNBA games and I
catch myself comparing it to the NBA, even though I'll
sit down and watch it, I catch myself comparing the
style of play, the level of without wanting to, and
I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, I don't know if it's.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I do think there's a certain amount of and I've
always believed this that the WNBA. When you put it
up against the NBA or against Internet, you're like, wow,
the level of skill is so far below right, And
I think the same thing happens with men's college basketball
and you compare it to the NBA. But again, it's for
having such a high percentage of female viewers and such
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a low volume of eyes watching in comparison to other sports.
It only tells you that women have spoken, they want
to watch Kitle and Clark play basketball and they don't
care otherwise. And I think the US women's national team
did this them themselves.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I have a question here, So if we're talking about
just the Olympics, Initially, for that first game or two,
the attendance for all the game except for US games
was really high, like sellouts, like they're doing really well.
And then for the women's game, like I know, at
least their first one, maybe their second one, the attendance
was not as lagged way way below the other games.
(25:27):
I don't understand that because the US are the best,
they've for a long time, for thirty years, they've won
fifty eight straight Olympic Games. So I don't understand why
the best team in Paris does not have the highest attendance.
I just don't get that because we're not talking about
radios but who they are. Yeah, but nobody knows who
these other teams are.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, what are the teams?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Like the other teams playing in the Olympics and women's basketball,
they have good attendance. Why don't the US Women had?
Why didn't they have good attendants for like that opening game?
And I'm seeing I can't really see. I've seen some MTC.
I see empty seats galore at this game. And I
don't get it because the US Women, if you want
to go watch the best of the best, these this
team is the best with Caitlin Clark or no Kaitlyn Clark.
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So I don't understand why, like the people in Paris
are not going to these games of the US Women.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. My guess again, and this is.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Sheerly spighting the team as well because there's no Kaitlin Clark.
Do they somehow know about this and they're like, well,
we're not going to show up because there's no Kaitlyn Clark.
And if you love Kaitlyn Clark in a French accentum.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, I again, this is just the yeah you guys
ever been in the Olympics. No, nope, me neither. Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Just to guess, though, most people go to see their
home country play, right unless they're just gigantic stars. And
I don't think they have any gigantic stars. I don't
think anybody cares about them, and I think most of
us are like eh, I would guess that that's a
reflection of Americans not showing up.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I could. I could see, like, you know, you're taking
a trip from Germany to France, from Spain to France.
You know, all of those are like I would assume
like a train ride, or you could take a two
hour flight or less and get to Paris and watch
your team. But I don't know. I feel like there's
probably a good amount of Americans over in Paris. But yeah,
they're not showing up for these games.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They're showing up not for the.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, they're showing up for other events.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let me there's your answer.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Let me let me offer another answer, And I'm going
to use a French term. You guys know what fate
complay means? Yeah, something that has already been determined. Yes,
I don't know. If you're winning every game by fifty points,
maybe that's just not very interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, I think that. Yeah, more parody between these teams
or the US and whoever team they're facing. There's more
parody in their close games. I guess people would tune
in to see them, like Jason possibly fail and lose,
but they're wiping the floor with everybody. So yeah, it's
not really interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We do like interesting. Faye des complay fe we come
from front they Company.
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Speaker 5 (28:33):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Moncey would have got I think it's one of our
new favorite games that we've got.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
All right, you got that, and.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
I know, all right, all right, I know this is
probably one of a Jason's favorite. So we're gonna get
going here.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
You just want to say, there's got to be a
disclaimer on this game. We stole it directly from Antonio Brown.
So this this was a segment on Antonio Brown's podcast,
and he's going to be in prison or homeless soon,
so he was not going to care the we stole
this from him. This is Antonio Brown's is he I?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Is he I is? Then he didn't come up with
the game. He just gave us the drops to use,
which we very thankful for. Thankful for exactly. All right,
so let's get going here, Doug Joe l.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Embiid, Yes, all right? Is he Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He played well, he played really well last time round,
he's all right. Last game against Brazil, he played well.
I mean he's he's he's overweight, but they get Serbia
and they're gonna need him against Serbia.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
I was just about to say, do you think he's
out of shape?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yes, you do? Yeah, round is a shape. We should
put that out. I know.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
He's funny that the people are calling out Charles Barkway.
I don't know if you've seen this, but Barkley called
him overweight too, right, he's out of shape? Yeah, and
then everyone's like, yeah, you can't you can't say anyone's
out of shape.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Charles.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
I'll always say this, does anyone know anything about being
out of shape more than fat people? Like, no, they are,
They're the experts on being out of shape. So it
actually is a stronger message coming in from Charles.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And I'll tell you something. This is true about fat you.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I tell you all the time, right, Like, if you
go into a restaurant and there are a lot of
heavy people there, that's a good place to get a meal. Yeah,
I never thought of that, but yeah, you don't ask.
You don't ask Anorexit people like where'd you get unless
you're trying to become Anarexic? Not that you want to
become heavy, but you know, like they're food.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Experts, right, yeah, yeah, you know a lot of places
is the best. Okay, Well, I'll take your word for you.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
At least get your money's worth it, right, that's true?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
All right?
Speaker 8 (30:59):
So he's he's all right, Okay, what about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
More than I Why wouldn't be? What's not iight about
Kevin Rant? Is the best player in the team.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, but he's not. I feel like he's not being
given that credit. Who is I feel like everything I.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Read is Lebron Lebron, this Lebrun, the ad, this Adi
that Joelle embiid overweight. I just feel like he's not
getting as much attention as I thought he would be getting.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But you know that's the way it works for Lebron. Well,
that's the way it works for Lebron.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You also live in southern California.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know if what you're reading or hearing is
more Southern California based. And I also think that some
of that is, like everybody has an ego. He has
one as well, but he has it a little bit
more in check because he's okay. He's He's even told
uh uh Steve Kirk he's okay with continue to come
off the bench.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So he just wants to hoop.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely all right. Okay, let's move on
on still trade rumor talk surrounding Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Is he all right?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
He's hight, he's I mean, he's either gonna play wide
receiver for the Niners or maybe for the Steelers. Yeah,
and if he plays the Steelers, you'll get a new
sizeable contract.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, he's iight. Is he as good as he thought
he was? No, But he's he's all right, He's all right.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Oh I love that drop.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, let's move on here. Skip Bayless, is he all right?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Financially he is all right. He's all right. Broadcasting or not.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I I think that's probably done.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yeah, you think it's done?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I mean, now, look, Skip has lived several lives as
a versus a writer and then as a broadcaster. But
you know, my guess is somebody gives him some money
for his feed and he does some sort of show
streaming show. But I just you know, it's really hard
to get from guys that you know, he was making
and reported with six million dollars. You're like, hey, Skip,
(33:09):
would you do this for I mean, even a reasonable
sum of money, you know, five hundred thousan dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm like, okay, well
then maybe you don't work anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Do you think he's just gonna have a podcast like
everybody else?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Like Sam today was saying that Skip was obnoxious on
Twitter yesterday, and he did like, I don't think videos
and stuff, and he's like, man, he obviously he said
something along the lines of he's obviously really thirsty about
being on TV. Or whatever, and I said, I think
the opposite. I think right now he's either trying out
and auditioning for X okay, so that they could give
(33:45):
him like Tucker Carlson money or Tulci Galbert money, like
they give out money to have their own, you know,
to broadcast on X. I think he's doing a lot
of activity on X because he's going to be their
next talent. That's just my prediction.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Interesting maybe all right.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It'll probably be a solo show, you would imagine. I
don't know. I don't see him partnership with anything.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
It'll just be him in his opinion, Joe okay, Yeah,
but I don't think that'll last.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
People you want it, It'll be one last money grab, right. Yeah,
he's not young, guys, He's gonna do a show forever.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Right, Yeah, it's true. All right, let's let's move on
to Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Has anybody watched any of Rome stuff on.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
X No, I've been watching it, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And is it same show?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
What is it like the exact same show he did
on CBO Sports for ten years, the same script, exact
same show. It's his radio show being smulcast on XP.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And does it have an audio partner.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
He has CBS Sports our competitor that I shouldn't say
on the air. We've cleaned that up and edit syndicates
his radio show, There's Change the Formatic Terrestrial Terrestrial, and
then ex is his digital partner.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
He has video component there.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, all right, okad, we'll keep an eye on that
hour situation.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Go ahead, let's want to Mike Trout is a.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No no.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
And it sucks.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
It does suck, it super sucks it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I don't know if anything gets super suck more than
Mike Trout continue to get hurt.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Right because I said it, like when he was hurt
a couple of weeks ago, I was like, I feel
like Mike Trout is going to be a footnote in
history when it comes to baseball.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Which super sucks ante.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah, Like people are just gonna be like, oh, yeah,
I remember that guy when it was like what he
was like the greatest player and nobody argued that he
was the greatest player for how.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Long I think he I think there's a very good
argument that he is the greatest position player in the
history of the sport.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Yeah, And I don't think many people would even argue that,
But it's just a disappointing last couple of, you know years.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And I'll offer.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You two examples.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Okay, look at Kirby Pucket's shortened career and look at
Sandy Kofax. Both had injuries took took their career short
and I think over time they were appreciated more. I
think try it will just be that. I think when
he's said and done and he's in the Hall of Fame,
people are going to look at his numbers very holy crap.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think the people that comment on him and say
they don't have the playoff stuff, those just not baseball people.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Oh yeah, right, is it a watch?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, well not Jim, because that kind of argument is
not really a base small argument per se, because there's
just such a disparity between number of playoff games, a
number of regular season games and playoff games and playoff opportunities.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So yeah, I'm I'm with Jay stew here.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I still think he's not I continuing injuries keep now,
this is like four straight lost years, but he is
I in terms of his overall standing with Major League
Baseball fans.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
There you go, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
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rope on Jim Harbaugh, and that's not even discussing the
issues that Jim Harbaugh has because of the sign stealing.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We'll get to that upcoming.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Mike Tomlin has addressed this quarterback competition, which.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
It feels like it's more competitive than it should have been.
But yeah, Justin Fields is going to play and Russell
Wilson's not, but he's got a calf injury. Rapid radios
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the news of the day is not good. It's out
of Philadelphia where apparently Nick Sirianni is George Costanza in
the relationship with Jalen Hurts. That's the kid Stanga, right,
(01:36):
those two guys just don't get along. And what It's
fascinating to me because Sirianni is a very easy and
unlikable target. Right, we can all admit that unless you're
an Eagles fan, I don't know anybody's like you know who.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I really like Nick Sirianni. He's not annoying at all.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
He wants all the you know one, all the heat,
takes all the heat, loves being like a professional wrestler
out there and whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
This is sort of what comes with it. Now. I'm
not going to give Hurts a pass.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
That's because well, everybody I know in the sport has
told me the Jalen Hurts not easy to deal with,
not easy, has concocted and constructed a really, really good
public image. But the reality to it is he don't
read a defense great, not a progressive thrower. And you know,
(02:32):
now he has all the power because of the new contract,
he doesn't exactly have to do what his coach wants
him to do. The new story from ESPN dot Com
points to a fundamental problem. The quarterback and the head
coach didn't get along, and per the report, the relationship
was fractured unhealthy in twenty twenty three. The issue arose
(02:54):
from a disagreement on the vision of the offense. One
source described the situation as a lack of full respect
for Sirianni as an x and os tactician.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
The implosion of the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Capped by a playoff loss to Tampa that sparked the
image of Jeffrey Lourie wearing a unique mask of bewilderment
and frustration.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Again, this is all from an ESPN dot com article
prompt in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Speculation that Sirianni would be fired, possibly for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Well, that didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
The ESPN dot com story made it clear that if
things don't get better in twenty four, the coach or
the quarterback could both be gone in twenty five. But
we all know how this works. The coach goes first,
then the quarterback goes second. But I'm telling you that
this is a Jalen Hurts kind of pattern.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Public image is great, good looking, great smile. He's got
his whole kind of thing together in terms of how
he purports himself, but there's a limitation on just how
good he actually is. And when more is thrust on
his plate, he can't do it. And yeah, they were
dominant two years ago, but were they dominant because of
(04:01):
Jalen Hurts. So they're down to because of the scheme
and the fact that they just put people on their
heels and they used him as a runner and now
people made him into a thrower and he's just not
that good. This, by the way, is what happens when
you give a player too much money too soon, and they
get too entitled and they think they.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Run the place.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
We've had several people say the same, and it remains true.
You don't go from You don't go from.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
A guy who two full seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I said two and a half years ago, they're playing
Tampa in the playoffs. You're like, ye, they got to
find a new quarterback too, greatest quarterback ever, highest paid
guy in the league. Hey, we want him above everybody else,
Like nobody makes that kind of jump.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And Jalen Hurts, I believe, carries himself in a way
with the level of confidence slash arrogance that he doesn't
think his thinks his stuff stinks. And if there's something wrong,
it's got to be the coach, it's not the player.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And while Jeffrey Laurie.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Has hired good coaches and gotten good quarterbacks and done
the fact is that that they have pulled the trigger
before on quarterbacks and coaches when they didn't get along.
And it'll be really interested to see if there's anywhere
else they can side other than siding with the player.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like that contract makes it you're siding with the player.
It just does. So none of this surprises me.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's Jalen Hurts is almost always better than you think
he should be, and then once he gets to be
at the you know, once he gets kind of solidified,
then he becomes difficult to deal with. That's what happened
at Oklahoma, That's what happened in Alabama. That's my guess
the pattern of what's happening here in Philadelphia. And we
(05:59):
always ask ourselves as coaches, is the juice worth the squeeze?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Is it super important? Is he so good that you
can put up with him being a pain that you
know what? And it is interesting that there was a
lot of criticism of Carson Wentz for a long time.
There has not been that same level of criticism of
Jale Hurts now. Two years ago he had the type
of season you couldn't be critical of.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Last year you could be critical, but you could.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Also point out there's a lot of changes from one
year to the next, so his performance is paramount. But
we've all been around this thing long enough to know
or to guess that if somebody's going to go, the
first one to go is Sirianni. And Sirianni was an
odd fit to begin with, and Sirianni's always always been awkward,
And it does feel it feels.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like this is more of.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
A concocted image than his actual image. This is not
who Nick Sirianni truly is, just who he kind of
wants to be, which is walk around with some tough
guy Bravado and Jalen Hurts is calling BS. Here's Nick
Sirianni earlier today on this very same topic.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Jalen iront a really good place. Every relationship that you have,
it needs to work with everybody, and we've always continued
to try to.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Work with that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, that is not a denial. That's the opposite of
the denial. Let's say, yeah, we're gonna we'll be fine
no matter what. And again, I would guess I'm probably
the only guy who's gonna say this, So, Yeah, Sirianni
comes across like a dip you know what, dipstick night.
But Jalen Hurts has a long track record of people
going like he in jails about Jalen. You know, Jalens
(07:41):
about Jalen. There's a lot of that Russell Wilson eye
rolling of it's figment of his creation. But that's an
interesting statement from Nick Seryann that is not in any
way of denial.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah we don't like each other, No, no, we.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Did not, But doesn't mean we can't be a good
football team, which I agree with.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
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Speaker 3 (08:16):
Interesting Justin Field is going to get the first start
for the Steelers in their preseason that because Russell Wilson's
nursing a bad calf muscle. Here's Mike Tomlin when he's
asked about Fields and his competition, I.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Think he just comes to compete every day. He's got
an awesome competitive spirit. We got a competitive environment, and
it seems like he's enjoying it. He's doing a really
good job of accla who made it himself to it
and his teammates and letting his talent show. I think
everything is an audition. Everything that we do is an audition,
(08:51):
not only for him but for others.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I still don't buy that he's going to be their
starting quarterback day one, or that it's even close, but I.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Remember, the entire league had a chance to Justin Field's
making very little to no money this year, with not
much in terms of.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Trade value, and they all pass.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Now that doesn't mean that the entire league can't be dopes,
can't be idiots, but they saw something or know something
about Justin Fields, the quarterback that the Steelers are trying
to act like he maybe is overcome. I don't buy that.
I just don't. And it goes again goes back to
what we said about Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurst doesn't go
(09:34):
from a guy you're like, yeah, I don't know, they
might want to move on to the greatest quarterback we've
ever seen. Justin Fields doesn't go from a yeah, Bears need.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
To get a new quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He can't really throw a football to oh my gosh,
he's gonna beat out Russell Wilson. So I think you know,
the name gets us excited, the fact that he was
a first round pick, a great player at Ohio State,
and a guy who had some moments with the Bears.
The reality is he has had the time to fix
all of his flaws. So if you think that the
(10:05):
Steelers think he has, I think we're.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Taking the bait on that one. I think we're taking
the bait Stuck Gottlib Show.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, Okay, So if you are,
you know, Stuck Gottleib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Unless you're hitting under Rock. You knew that the NCA
was investigating Michigan, but you probably thought they were just
(10:32):
investigating Michigan for.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Stealing signs.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The NCAA announced today a four year show cause for
Michigan for Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh for in permissible
contact with recruits and players while access was restricted during
COVID nineteen pandemic, effectively banning him from college athletics until
August of twenty twenty four. The nca said that Harball,
(11:00):
who left his all moder as coach of the LA
Chargers after last season's championship game, engaged in unethical contact,
failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance, and violated head
coaching responsibility ob obligations. The NCAA already put in Michigan
on three years of probation along with a fine for
recruiting limits. After reaching a negotiated resolution in the case.
(11:22):
Harball did not go along with the agreement, disputing the allegations.
He failed to operate with investigators. His case was handled separately. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I look.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I work for a university that has to abide by
NCAA rules. There are lots of NCAA rules that don't
make any any sense. I have long been a proponent
of the rules of the NCAA, because like, look, they
were voted on and approved on by a majority of
the schools. So you can fight to change it, but
don't break a rule. Act like you're surprised. The COVID
(12:01):
ones are a bit Darkonian, no doubt. And if we
think back to COVID I understand that you look at
it now and you're like, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
That was ridiculous, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The realistic way of looking at it, I believe is
some of them were over the top of many of
them were meant with the right spirit in mind that
you didn't want to get people infected, that didn't mean
to be infected to bring it home to mom and
dad or somebody who was gimmunocompromiser. God forbid your grandma
and grandpa. And then it spreads and it kills them.
They have the right intention of heart to not always
(12:34):
the right execution. But did you know, and I learned
this last week, I don't know, you are not allowed
to use exercise as punishment for a player performance or
scholastically or otherwise. Do you guys know that? In other words,
if a player gets in trouble, right player gets in trouble.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
You can't run them.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Or make them new stadium steps or you know, we
used to these workouts called twenty fives at Oaklhom State
that were just impossible to do.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You're not technically you're not allowed to do it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Now everyone I know violates that rule. Now it's supposed
to not as supposed to be a standalone workout only
for punishment. Right, there's a gray area there within it
and how you do it. The point is so many rules,
and one of the big rules is you're responsible as
head coach for everybody under your watch. And oh yeah,
(13:32):
by the way, you got to completely disclose what you
do and why you do it, how you do it,
and give your cell phone.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
And Jim Harbaugh wasn't going to.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
This is the Pete Carroll though Pete Carroll member was
s he was going on probation right as he left,
and you're wondering if forever leave and that was what
caused him to leave. So Harball is never coming back
to coach college anymore. Anyway, Why would you You won a
national championship game in your last game, it was at
your own monitor.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You left in a better place.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
You're good, but I don't think that he'd be done
fighting this one, because I do believe Jim is about
his ethics. You may not agree with them, but he's
pretty strong in terms of what he believes in his ethics.
The hard part is going to be the COVID stuff
where you just weren't allowed to have contact with people,
and they did, and lots of programs did and they
(14:21):
got caught.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
They got caught.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
My take has always been, unless you're buying players, and
this is before the world of NI own even now,
like just I just don't like it now. But buying players,
I believe is different than compensating players, and compensating guys
that have established themselves and you know, they do some
appearances and whatever, and there's a reasonable rate there. Like
(14:49):
just giving a kid money, especially back then before its legal,
against the rules, and doing anything to change somebody's grades
or take the test for him, that's unethical.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Those two.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I got no problem with you getting fired for other stuff.
What are we doing, What are we doing? What are
we actually doing? So I you know, and this has
nothing to do by the way, with sign stealings, So
there could be additional punishment I guess for sign stealing
but like, we're not allowing Jim Harbaugh to come to
(15:23):
a party that he was no longer going to come to.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
It's like I already went to that Christmas party. I
don't need to go in again.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Like, Okay, I'm fine, you're you're suspended, you can't come anymore.
Like I'm not coming to your Christmas party. This is
Jim Harbaugh's attorney, Tom Mars. The way I see at
Coach Harbaugh's respective today's COI decision is like being in
your college and getting a letter from your high school
(15:47):
saying you've been suspended because you didn't sign the yearbook.
If I were in Coach Harbaugh's shoes and had an
eighty million dollars contract of head coach of the Chargers,
I wouldn't pay any attention to the findings of a
kangaroo court which claims to represent the principles of the
nation's most flagrant repeat violators of antitrust laws.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
I mean, look, Tom Mars obviously clearly a lawyer, and
he's dancing on the grave of the NCAA, and I
don't blame him. I think a stronger statement would have
been he is the most ethical coach in college football.
None of this has anything to do with reality. But
we made a bunch of money and you're a violator
of anti trust laws.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I don't know. You just asked him to hammer Michigan harder?
Is that what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And there is a certain sense of you can't win
with the NCAA. I get it, Mile Mounter Oklam State
felt like with basketball they cooperated fully and they still
got taken out of the nca tournament.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Still happened. It's a no gollip show.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You're on Fox Sports Radio, So Jay stew I was
wondering because this was something.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I felt like was kind of right up your alley, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Is is how we're watching now? And the US women's
national team is not drawing well or getting any attention,
And I guess this is one of those Do you
think if they could do it all over again, they
would include Kaitlyn Clark?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I mean, what's her face? What's the name of the
South Carolina's head coach Don Staley. I think she admitted
as much last week. I don't know if she was
admitting that in the context of the lack of interest.
I think she was just admitting that somehow Caitlyn Clark
got a lot better as a player in the last
few weeks and that changed her mind. But now I'm
(17:45):
on record, I think on this show at the very
weast I said it on the podcast, I'm rooting against
our woman. Like I'm I'm I don't care about this
women's basketball team. In fact, it'll make a much better
story if they lose to Nigeria today. I mean that
that's our lead tomorrow if they if they lose Nigeria
tips off here in a couple of minutes. I'm rooting
(18:06):
against our team so that we could have great content tomorrow.
The I told you so, you wouldn't have lost with
Kaitlyn Clark, or I told you so. This is why
you don't. I don't know. I don't even know what
they're the head coach's name is, but she has shown
she has shown such an arrogance around the whole Kaitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Have you noticed though, And like, look, I don't think
it's intentional. Yeah, I don't think NBC not paying attention
to it is intentional. It's just not interesting. It's just
not interesting. Correct, And and you know they've done this
to themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
They're still winning and they're still gonna win the thing.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
They're still the best team, but they're not interesting anymore.
There's nothing of that that's interesting. And if I'm sitting
there and I'm in a production meaning like, hey, do
we want to talk to the women's coach of youa
or do we want to talk to the guy who
the pole vaulter who hit his junk on the pole?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Like yeah, that guy.
Speaker 8 (19:10):
I mean, I think it's hard to say that she's
not doing it on purpose, or that I don't know
who's not doing purpose or what's the name of the
coach not Don Staley the other one that like, yes, she's.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Doing it on purpose. I'm saying, Oh, I'm saying I
don't think. I don't think NBC, Like if you notice
that NBC, NBC and Peacock which is NBC, they're not
focused on the women's national team, not having the players
in studio, and I don't watch every moment, so I'm
if I'm mistaken, please tell me. But it's not a
talking point, not at all. We're not talking point about
(19:43):
it at all. We're back to covering women's basketball the
way it's always been covered, where nobody really cares nobody
really pays attention. It doesn't matter that we're better than
everybody else, it's just what's the There is no ratings
boon from covering it, whereas with the men, clearly there is.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
And I also think the men's is kind of not
being covered as much. But I agree with you there
is a huge gap between the women and the men,
and it is interesting. Would this be the case if
Caitlin Clark was on the team.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Of course not. Yeah, it's right.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So the Olympics are really more made for women. More
women viewers tune into the Olympics. It's not that men
don't watch the Olympics, but women watch a lot more
of the Olympics, and they're women that normally don't watch
sports on TV.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, I think that's the reason. Is because there's more
women participating in these sports, is why more women watch? Yes,
and no, I mean women don't necessarily aren't necessarily drawn
to sports with predominantly men in them. There are female
football fans out there, and.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You know, Sam, I think you're talking about something you
have absolutely no statistical background for other than.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
A feeling that you're just wing. Yeah, you are your.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Eyeball unless you can improved because because what happens is
the reason.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Again, Doug, when you go to NFL game, do you
think it's a majority men or women in there?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's definitely definitely a dude's sport, right, Okay, but but women,
but the female audience in football is growing substantially, sure, but.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's definitely more men watching, like men watching men.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I understand.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But like track and field, for example, the men any
Olympic sport, regardless of men and women, there is a
higher percentage of women watching as opposed to how many
women watch normal sports regardless where as men or otherwise. Okay,
it just is that's just again, we can we can
kind of track the eptomology, emtomology, eptology, the background of it, etymology. Yeah,
(21:45):
if we want, like for a different podcast or something
like what Causes that was fine, okay, But the real again,
the reality to it is the.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Olympics are really more for female viewers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
They just are guys will watch, but women watch the
Olympics and they love them and they do love them
for the females, for the women's stories. But also if
you look at the way that NBC has always broadcast
the Olympics, you know they have these short stories. They
tell people's backgrounds, you know, all this amazing stories of
(22:17):
triumph and comebacks and et cetera. Like again, that is
more how women watch sports. Men watch sports are like
who can I bet on? How can I win money?
And give me the most violent thing possible? Like that's
how we watch Okay, So the point is that you
have this, You have a captivated female viewer that you've
(22:40):
told I know you really like watching this woman play,
but we don't care. And now you throw a team
that we know is going to be successful and it's just.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Not deemed as likable.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And so again I don't think calculated thing where NBC's
sitting there going like, well, show Reeve didn't want Kaitlin Clark,
so we're not telling it, and we're not telling a
story about the women's team. It's just now the stories
are interesting and no one's watching.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Man, I didn't even think about that angle until you
guys talked about it, Like, I think it would be amazing.
It would make a great story. If NBC said, oh,
you don't want to include the most popular person on
the planet in sports right now, okay, then we just
won't cover your sport. That would be amazing. But I
think it goes back to your original point, Doug, that
the reason why nobody's paying attention now and nobody's going
(23:29):
to these games now is the reason why the WNBA
has been largely ignored since it started. There just is
not a thirst or a hunger from the mainstream sports
fan for women's basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
And Monts.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
You could disagree with me because I know you like
women's basketball, but I could just say from my standpoint
and anybody I hang out with, we don't go and
look for women's basketball because it isn't a great product.
Same reason I don't go and look for hockey. It's
just not to me entertaining. So if you're not going
to include Caitlin Clark, I'm going to root against you
in this regard.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
You're not wrong because I watched WNBA games and I
catch myself comparing it to the NBA, even though I'll
sit down and watch it, I catch myself comparing the
style of play, the level of without wanting to, and
I'm doing it.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, I don't know if it's.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I do think there's a certain amount of and I've
always believed this that the WNBA. When you put it
up against the NBA or against Internet, you're like, wow,
the level of skill is so far below right, And
I think the same thing happens with men's college basketball
and you compare it to the NBA. But again, it's for
having such a high percentage of female viewers and such
(24:48):
a low volume of eyes watching in comparison to other sports.
It only tells you that women have spoken, they want
to watch Kitle and Clark play basketball and they don't
care otherwise. And I think the US women's national team
did this them themselves.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I have a question here, So if we're talking about
just the Olympics, Initially, for that first game or two,
the attendance for all the game except for US games
was really high, like sellouts, like they're doing really well.
And then for the women's game, like I know, at
least their first one, maybe their second one, the attendance
was not as lagged way way below the other games.
(25:27):
I don't understand that because the US are the best,
they've for a long time, for thirty years, they've won
fifty eight straight Olympic Games. So I don't understand why
the best team in Paris does not have the highest attendance.
I just don't get that because we're not talking about
radios but who they are. Yeah, but nobody knows who
these other teams are.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, what are the teams?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Like the other teams playing in the Olympics and women's basketball,
they have good attendance. Why don't the US Women had?
Why didn't they have good attendants for like that opening game?
And I'm seeing I can't really see. I've seen some MTC.
I see empty seats galore at this game. And I
don't get it because the US Women, if you want
to go watch the best of the best, these this
team is the best with Caitlin Clark or no Kaitlyn Clark.
(26:10):
So I don't understand why, like the people in Paris
are not going to these games of the US Women.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. My guess again, and this is.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Sheerly spighting the team as well because there's no Kaitlin Clark.
Do they somehow know about this and they're like, well,
we're not going to show up because there's no Kaitlyn Clark.
And if you love Kaitlyn Clark in a French accentum.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
No, I again, this is just the yeah you guys
ever been in the Olympics. No, nope, me neither. Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Just to guess, though, most people go to see their
home country play, right unless they're just gigantic stars. And
I don't think they have any gigantic stars. I don't
think anybody cares about them, and I think most of
us are like eh, I would guess that that's a
reflection of Americans not showing up.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I could. I could see, like, you know, you're taking
a trip from Germany to France, from Spain to France.
You know, all of those are like I would assume
like a train ride, or you could take a two
hour flight or less and get to Paris and watch
your team. But I don't know. I feel like there's
probably a good amount of Americans over in Paris. But yeah,
they're not showing up for these games.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
They're showing up not for the.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Yeah, they're showing up for other events.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Let me there's your answer.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
Let me let me offer another answer, And I'm going
to use a French term. You guys know what fate
complay means? Yeah, something that has already been determined. Yes,
I don't know. If you're winning every game by fifty points,
maybe that's just not very interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, I think that. Yeah, more parody between these teams
or the US and whoever team they're facing. There's more
parody in their close games. I guess people would tune
in to see them, like Jason possibly fail and lose,
but they're wiping the floor with everybody. So yeah, it's
not really interesting.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
We do like interesting. Faye des complay fe we come
from front they Company.
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Let's get to a game with Monty Belagnas.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Moncey would have got I think it's one of our
new favorite games that we've got.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
All right, you got that, and.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
I know, all right, all right, I know this is
probably one of a Jason's favorite. So we're gonna get
going here.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
You just want to say, there's got to be a
disclaimer on this game. We stole it directly from Antonio Brown.
So this this was a segment on Antonio Brown's podcast,
and he's going to be in prison or homeless soon,
so he was not going to care the we stole
this from him. This is Antonio Brown's is he I?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Is he I is? Then he didn't come up with
the game. He just gave us the drops to use,
which we very thankful for. Thankful for exactly. All right,
so let's get going here, Doug Joe l.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Embiid, Yes, all right? Is he Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
He played well, he played really well last time round,
he's all right. Last game against Brazil, he played well.
I mean he's he's he's overweight, but they get Serbia
and they're gonna need him against Serbia.
Speaker 8 (29:53):
I was just about to say, do you think he's
out of shape?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yes, you do? Yeah, round is a shape. We should
put that out. I know.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
He's funny that the people are calling out Charles Barkway.
I don't know if you've seen this, but Barkley called
him overweight too, right, he's out of shape? Yeah, and
then everyone's like, yeah, you can't you can't say anyone's
out of shape.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Charles.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
I'll always say this, does anyone know anything about being
out of shape more than fat people? Like, no, they are,
They're the experts on being out of shape. So it
actually is a stronger message coming in from Charles.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And I'll tell you something. This is true about fat you.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
I tell you all the time, right, Like, if you
go into a restaurant and there are a lot of
heavy people there, that's a good place to get a meal. Yeah,
I never thought of that, but yeah, you don't ask.
You don't ask Anorexit people like where'd you get unless
you're trying to become Anarexic? Not that you want to
become heavy, but you know, like they're food.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Experts, right, yeah, yeah, you know a lot of places
is the best. Okay, Well, I'll take your word for you.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
At least get your money's worth it, right, that's true?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
All right?
Speaker 8 (30:59):
So he's he's all right, Okay, what about Kevin Durant.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
More than I Why wouldn't be? What's not iight about
Kevin Rant? Is the best player in the team.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, but he's not. I feel like he's not being
given that credit. Who is I feel like everything I.
Speaker 8 (31:19):
Read is Lebron Lebron, this Lebrun, the ad, this Adi
that Joelle embiid overweight. I just feel like he's not
getting as much attention as I thought he would be getting.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
But you know that's the way it works for Lebron. Well,
that's the way it works for Lebron.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
You also live in southern California.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I don't know if what you're reading or hearing is
more Southern California based. And I also think that some
of that is, like everybody has an ego. He has
one as well, but he has it a little bit
more in check because he's okay. He's He's even told
uh uh Steve Kirk he's okay with continue to come
off the bench.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So he just wants to hoop.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
Yeah, yeah, he's definitely all right. Okay, let's move on
on still trade rumor talk surrounding Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Is he all right?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
He's hight, he's I mean, he's either gonna play wide
receiver for the Niners or maybe for the Steelers. Yeah,
and if he plays the Steelers, you'll get a new
sizeable contract.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, he's iight. Is he as good as he thought
he was? No, But he's he's all right, He's all right.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Oh I love that drop.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Okay, let's move on here. Skip Bayless, is he all right?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Financially he is all right. He's all right. Broadcasting or not.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I I think that's probably done.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yeah, you think it's done?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I mean, now, look, Skip has lived several lives as
a versus a writer and then as a broadcaster. But
you know, my guess is somebody gives him some money
for his feed and he does some sort of show
streaming show. But I just you know, it's really hard
to get from guys that you know, he was making
and reported with six million dollars. You're like, hey, Skip,
(33:09):
would you do this for I mean, even a reasonable
sum of money, you know, five hundred thousan dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Like, no, I'm not doing that. I'm like, okay, well
then maybe you don't work anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Do you think he's just gonna have a podcast like
everybody else?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (33:23):
Like Sam today was saying that Skip was obnoxious on
Twitter yesterday, and he did like, I don't think videos
and stuff, and he's like, man, he obviously he said
something along the lines of he's obviously really thirsty about
being on TV. Or whatever, and I said, I think
the opposite. I think right now he's either trying out
and auditioning for X okay, so that they could give
(33:45):
him like Tucker Carlson money or Tulci Galbert money, like
they give out money to have their own, you know,
to broadcast on X. I think he's doing a lot
of activity on X because he's going to be their
next talent. That's just my prediction.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Interesting maybe all right.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
It'll probably be a solo show, you would imagine. I
don't know. I don't see him partnership with anything.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
It'll just be him in his opinion, Joe okay, Yeah,
but I don't think that'll last.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
People you want it, It'll be one last money grab, right. Yeah,
he's not young, guys, He's gonna do a show forever.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Right, Yeah, it's true. All right, let's let's move on
to Mike.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Has anybody watched any of Rome stuff on.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
X No, I've been watching it, yep.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And is it same show?
Speaker 7 (34:35):
What is it like the exact same show he did
on CBO Sports for ten years, the same script, exact
same show. It's his radio show being smulcast on XP.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
And does it have an audio partner.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
He has CBS Sports our competitor that I shouldn't say
on the air. We've cleaned that up and edit syndicates
his radio show, There's Change the Formatic Terrestrial Terrestrial, and
then ex is his digital partner.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
He has video component there.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Okay, all right, okad, we'll keep an eye on that
hour situation.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Go ahead, let's want to Mike Trout is a.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
No no.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
And it sucks.
Speaker 8 (35:19):
It does suck, it super sucks it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I don't know if anything gets super suck more than
Mike Trout continue to get hurt.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Right because I said it, like when he was hurt
a couple of weeks ago, I was like, I feel
like Mike Trout is going to be a footnote in
history when it comes to baseball.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Which super sucks ante.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah, Like people are just gonna be like, oh, yeah,
I remember that guy when it was like what he
was like the greatest player and nobody argued that he
was the greatest player for how.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Long I think he I think there's a very good
argument that he is the greatest position player in the
history of the sport.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Yeah, And I don't think many people would even argue that,
But it's just a disappointing last couple of, you know years.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And I'll offer.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
You two examples.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
Okay, look at Kirby Pucket's shortened career and look at
Sandy Kofax. Both had injuries took took their career short
and I think over time they were appreciated more. I
think try it will just be that. I think when
he's said and done and he's in the Hall of Fame,
people are going to look at his numbers very holy crap.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I think the people that comment on him and say
they don't have the playoff stuff, those just not baseball people.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Oh yeah, right, is it a watch?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yeah, well not Jim, because that kind of argument is
not really a base small argument per se, because there's
just such a disparity between number of playoff games, a
number of regular season games and playoff games and playoff opportunities.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
So yeah, I'm I'm with Jay stew here.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I still think he's not I continuing injuries keep now,
this is like four straight lost years, but he is
I in terms of his overall standing with Major League
Baseball fans.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
There you go, and that's game time.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Game is game time on the Dog Gottlieb.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
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