August 9, 2024 • 47 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos, in for Doug Gottlieb, observe the anniversary of Wayne Gretzky joining the Los Angeles Kings and determine which transactions are the greatest in sports history. Dan and Monse break down why the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics needs to have MLB stars as part of baseball's return to the Olympics. Dan puts the crew's knowledge of the new NFL kickoff rules to the test!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
A very very special day today here on Fox Sports Radio,
not only because the Olympics are winding down, Manzi. It
is a historic day in the history of sports, one
that I know is near and dear to Isaac Lohenkron's heart.
There are others here that may not remember the actual moment,
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but in the theme of the Olympics, we will decipher
whether this moment in sports transactional history is the actual
gold metal moment of all sports when it comes to transactions.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is quite incredible this transaction because even if you
weren't around for.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It, the name holds so much weight.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, I could have done it. You don't remember done it.
Monsey got the copy right and write in a split
second time.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I know he knows it by heart. I do not.
I do not. After after I still that is one
of my flaws. Can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
No, but I think I've said it just between you
and I. I always say it, so you know.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Maybe that's why do you do you even remember this move?
I think you were maybe too young. Absolutely, yes, I
don't want to age. I don't want to age anyone. Yeah,
I know, Actually this move happened before you were born.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Oh great, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know what happened before Ryan Bersinger was born and
Iowa Sam. I'm not sure exactly how old Iowa Sam is. Oh,
I'm going to just say somewhere in the neighborhood. But
he would not be old enough to remember when this happened.
I remember when it happened, and I'm pretty sure Isaac
Lohenkron remembers when it happened. So I want to at
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least give the floor to him, because I feel like
he's the most invested to start this topic. What is
today the thirty sixth anniversary of Isaac lowincron the.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Biggest trade in sports history, literally the greatest trade in
sports history, when Wayne Gretzky, the most dominant team sport
athlete of all time, was traded in the prime of
his career from the Edmonton Oilers, who had won four
out of the last five Stanley Cups, two Hollywood Tinseltown
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and the Los Angeles Kings.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I just question here, was this done because of Hollywood?
Was this done to send him to LA?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The Oilers needed money right now?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The owner of the Edmonton Oilers, Peter Pocklington, Yes, Brittany
needed money. They were the dynasty in the NHL, but
that did not translate to his pocketbook because of their
market size.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you trade Wayne GRETZKYU, you're gonna have to pay
at some point right as well? And he goes to
LA and really, and I need isaacrrety because I'm not
a native Californian or from southern California. But this changed
everything in southern California with hockey, right this.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It changed everything in southern California. It changed everything in
the Sun Belt. Barry Melrose, who a couple of years
later would coach Gretzky and the Kings to the Stanley
Cup Finals. Said that the Wayne Gretzky trade didn't just
save hockey in Los Angeles. He said it saved the
National Hockey League. There you go back then only twenty
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one teams. If that Gretzky trade does not happen, there
would be no San Jose Sharks, there would be no
Anaheim Ducks, there would be no Vegas Golden Knights, there
would be no Dallas Stars. It had that big of
an impact.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Enormous on the metal stand. Isaac says it wins gold,
But I'm just not sure if it does win gold.
And that's what I want to figure out today, is
on this thirty sixth anniversary, maybe we are prisoners of
the moment, Maybe we are prisoners of the anniversary. But
it brings to mind what are the actual biggest moves
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And when we're talking about this, and we're talking about
this anniversary, I believe you were the first one to
say it. What first popped into your mind? This isn't trades,
this is transaction. So this can be trades, this can
be you know, player movement, free agency.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I instantly thought of MESSI joining Inner Miami. I know
that's super recent, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It was so big for MLS and for soccer in
the US. And then Ryan Berschinger, our producer, brought up
David Beckham, and I was like, yeah, he maybe started this,
but the effect is not the same.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't want to say like like Beckham walked so
Messi could run, but sort of yes, yeah, that's that's
like the feeling that I got for I went to
an LA Galaxy game. Yeah, so like that's enough. Like
just Beckham was was playing, so I ended up. It
made reason for me to go. Now, the thought process
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of bringing old European stars over to a new league
in the United States, the actual growth of the sport
has its huge dynamics, and the Galaxy were good. They were,
I mean, and Beckham was even in his later years,
is probably better than most, maybe if not all, of
the players in the MLS at the time. But in
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terms of like where the league is gone, like even
Messi comes over here in the waning years of his
career and then as immediately the best player, and the
past year or whatever it's been has been a bit
of history. I do think that your point is well taken,
that it's under consideration. The biggest move that I looked at,
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and I believe that others would probably feel this. When
Lebron left Cleveland for Miami. Yeah, like that I just
for and it's not the return trip to Cleveland, even
though he won a title, it was everything that came
with it. It really did feel like it changed the game.
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We blamed Lebron for the Big three, and even though
I don't think big threes really work and there were
only two titles, there were four straight trips to the
NBA Finals for Lebron there, and it also brought in
a true villain team in the NBA. The ramifications of
how other teams responded. It was just the TV aspect
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of it, of ripping the hearts out of Cleveland. Like,
I think that is a top three. So if we've
got Lebron leaving Cleveland and the Gretzky trade and you're
trying to make it in this Olympic theme that we're
tying it in on this metal stand, if you will,
there's got to be one more. So we've got the
biggest deal in hockey. I think it's the biggest deal
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in basketball. So then that leaves baseball and football.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It is the biggest deal in basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But because it's Lebron James, right, because there's been so
many others in basketball. I mean, we could talk Shack
whether you want to say Shack from the Magic to
the Lakers or from the Lakers to the Heat. I
feel like that's also a really.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Big one, right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But it's like Lebron's name.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The decision TV.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Absolutely, But I will say that him going to the
Lakers I feel like in a way even diminishes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What he did going to Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like if you would have stayed there and then gone
back to Cleveland and just stayed on the East, I
feel like it had so much weight Now that he's
gone to Lakers. I'm like, well, I mean, in hindsight,
I don't know if this was that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think people forget the Lakers championship at times when
you're talking about Lebron and his time titles. You forget
that he has four NBA titles. I think that sometimes
we even just pass over because we remember Cleveland being
the third. I would also put the Durant to Golden State. Mmm,
like if there was a runner up, that would be
it for what it changed. But it doesn't rise to
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the level of Lebron going on national TV, taking these
meetings leading up to what he was going to decide
in free agency. The Heat contingent are there, there's the
Knicks contingent, the Calves were able to speak with him.
There were all those things that were like leading up
to the actual decision, which then allowed the decision to
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be such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right, It was all, like you just said, everything leading
the drama kept surrounding that moment.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Because we weren't sure what was he gonna do? What
is he going to do?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I feel like a little different than the Wayne Gretzky
situation like this one just he you know, it's Lebron.
He loves the attention, so he, you know, stretched it
out as long as he could.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We'd love to hear what you think are the biggest
moves that we've seen in sports on this anniversary of
Gretzky's trade to the LA Kings. Hit Mancy up at
Manzi Blanos. He can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Would love your input. Here's the deal with football, Because
you talk about recency bias. I think if you would
argue there could be a point where if we were
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brainstorming if we were just trying to come up with
a bunch of different NFL deals. Tom Brady leaving the
Patriots for the Buccaneers is a big deal, but I
think there's recency bias, and honestly, while he got another championship,
I don't know if it really had the lasting effect
as a couple of other deals have in football. I
think that there are two deals, and again, sorry kind
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of predates your guys time. One was in free agency
and it was Reggie White leaving the Philadelphia Eagles for
the Green Bay Packers. Reggie White was the defender for Philadelphia,
minister of defense, leader of that defense. But also now
you free agency in the NFL, teams being or players
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being able to sign with the teams that they want,
change the NFL. And then he goes to Green Bay
and really revitalizes the entire Green Bay Packers organization. It
was a huge, huge deal. So gist of it being
free agency comes to the NFL and Reggie White leaves
the egos to the Packers is a big enough deal.
But honestly, I think the biggest deal in all is
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the Herschel Walker trade, and it is still talked about
today because it set up the Dallas Cowboys for their
great championships. And herschel Walker was such a name in
the nineteen eighties, whether it be at Georgia winning the
Heisman Trophy and then him in the USFL and then
coming to the National Football League and being the piece
that he was for the Cowboys and having the Cowboys involved.
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I would actually put the herschel Walker trade above Reggie
White signing with the Green Bay Packers because it is
still when we have a lot side of trade in
Major League Baseball at stay you know herschel Walker trade.
This is the herschel Walker sort of deal. What kind
of package, Well, you need a herschel Walker sort of package.
But it completely reshaped the Cowboys franchise and herschel Walker
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was a big name at that time. And so I
think the hershe Ol' Walker trade probably the biggest move
that we've had in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Well, again, we weren't around for that. I don't know.
I was thinking Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Sure, Oakland Raiders, Yes, when he went to the Patriots,
But the thing was we went to the Patriots. There
was a little he was soured on Yeah, and Brady
and the Patriots revitalized his career because he went to
Oakland and there was Yeah, it was. He turned his
career around and obviously had the record sending year with
the New England Patriots.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It was a huge, huge deal baseball wise.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
There's a couple I think in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Ryan Bursinger is our executive producer. I thought a Rod
signing with the Rangers. I'm bringing Bursch in on this.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
For some reason, that was just huge for the for
the amount of money that he got for the young
star that he want at the time. I don't think
it would top Gretzky or herschel, Walker or Lebron by
any means. But when I think of like enormous baseball deals,
a Rod is one of those. That's just him leaving Seattle.
And it wasn't even for the Yankees. No, it wasn't
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Ken Rosenthal, you know, breaking any news or this and
that during the World Series. It was, you know, a
Rod leaves for the Texas Rangers, and that was a huge,
huge deal back in the day. No, I agree.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
What we don't realize is a Rod was twenty five
his first season with the Rangers. That's that's amazing for
somebody to hit free agency at that age with the
amount of talent. I mean, Juan SODA's gonna basically do
that next.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
It was a gigantic shift in terms of what it
meant for the league because of just how much money
he got out of that deal. It was incredible when
I think of baseball transactions, and I understand that none
of us were alive at this time, but and it's
different because he wasn't who he was yet. But you
can't tell the story of baseball, the history of baseball
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without Babe Ruth going from the Red Sox to the
Yankees and just what that meant for both of those
franchises for a century. It's the fact that we all
know about it now. Again, Babe Ruth was a very
good player when he was with the Red Sox. He
was a two way player, but he didn't become Babe
Ruth the legend until he was a Yankee. Sure, and
it completely, of course set forth the two franchises in
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completely different directions for the next century.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Really, when that trade went down, it actually I read
about this, It actually broke Twitter. It did. It was crazy.
It wasn't around its.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Carrier pigeons. That's where they got the logo.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I you know, that's a very fair point. That would
trump and that would and I'll tell you what, if
we're talking about it, what one hundred years, you know
later that it's it does carry the weight. So here
you go. So you got so, you got Gretzky, you
got herschel Walker, you got Lebron, and you got Babe Ruth.
Like there are other baseball deals guys.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I mean, yeah, but Otani, I think we're maybe we're.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Having a different conversation about it in a couple of years,
seeing what he does with the Dodgers. I was thinking
of David Ortiz, Big Poppy going to the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But again at the time, he wasn't David Ortiz.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But that's right, And that's what I mean about, like
with Otani, maybe we're having a different conversation in a
couple of years. But right now we don't know exactly
what's happening with the doctor.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
There's if if I think you're gonna be the voice
of reason, and well I know that you put Gretzky
on top, but who's the odd one out of the
herschel Walker, Babe Ruth Lebron, and the Gretzky deals. Who
doesn't meddle in this.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I would say herschel Walker because of the drama and
the spectacle around it. From a football standpoint, it was
one of the most consequential trades in sports history. I
mean it directly led to the Cowboys winning three Super
Bowls in a four year span. But it didn't have
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the cultural or media drama as the other ones. I mean,
you know, the teletype machines and the carrier pigeons back
in the roaring twenties, I mean the newsboys on the corner,
extra extra read all about it. That was a big
deal and it would have been a huge deal if
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there was sports talk radio back then.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It was gosh. I just have a tough time taking
it off of the list. But to the point that
said Gretzky sayd the league, I think Lebron, I actually
feel that the free agency now should be a week
long of TV shows, just like Paul George should have
had a decision where he announced it. I'm sorry, it's
just sports. I like, if you want to burn jerseys
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or do whatever, I think it's a much better option.
But I would I would put Babe Ruth Gold, I
would put Gretzky Silver, Lebron Bronx. Okay, that's that's what
I would do. Yeah, Lebron. Ryan Berschinger's here, so is
Isaac low on Crown. You guys, they're all hanging out
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Speaker 2 (17:16):
A Happy Friday to you, and in just a matter
of seconds, I'll tell you what Major League Baseball just
needs to understand. They just need to understand that what
the NBA is doing is actually the way to go.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
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I get tired of the NBA at times, I really do.
I get warned down. I've made no secret of it,
but I'll tell you yesterday was awesome. Yesterday was great.
I've said it for weeks. I'm sick of talking about
the Olympic team like we talk about the NBA. I
just want to sit back and cheer and root for USA.
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And yesterday seventeen point comeback by the United States against
Serbia was amazing. Doug It even asked me right before
Tipbov like, do you care about this game? I go,
I will care during the game, I go, it's not
going to bother me afterwards. I didn't bother me leading
up to it, but as the game was going on,
it was great. It was exciting, and you know what
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was actually wrong a little bit. There was a good
feeling afterwards.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, because they came out of it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
There was adversity something we hadn't seen, and Serbia was
playing really well.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
All the itches were just on top of it, all
of us.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, but the US got their tough act in to
acting and we're able to get stuff to stop and
put an end by outscoring Serbia by seventeen points in
the fourth quarter. I thought it was great to hear
Kevin Durant talk about, Yeah, this is what it's all about.
This is about us enjoying this.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
This isn't still arguing with people on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was arguing with people who are saying that the
US got lucky and that they should just get by.
And that's what he was arguing. He says, we should
enjoy it. This is what this was all about. This
was great to play with these this group of players.
And I agree with Kevin Durant, and I hope, and
I hope major League Baseball is listening. Why so because
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Major League Baseball today made an announcement that had some
say wow, cool and others kind of scratching their head. Yeah,
way to Major League Baseball officially announced that this was
leaked the day or two ago, that a game was
going to be played at Bristol Motor Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee,
on the infield of the short track, and sure enough,
Braves and Reds are going to play there August two,
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twenty twenty five, a game is going to be played
in the infield of a NASCAR track. Pretty amazing, right,
Pretty cool? I would say, not as cool as the
Field of Dreams game. All right. While I think it's unique,
I think the Field of Dreams game is more rooted
in baseball.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It gives you the fields, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, But you know what else gave me the fields
watching Team USA come back from seventeen points down with
its best players to beat Serbia. And this leads to
the point. One sport we aren't talking about in the
Olympics is baseball because baseball is not a part of
the program in twenty twenty four, but it will be
in twenty twenty eight. And I just feel that Major
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League Baseball and this has been talked about and Bryce
Harper has said made it be known a I'd love
to be an Olympian. We need Major League Baseball players
in the Olympic Games when baseball is a part of
the program, and it looks like it's going to be
a part of the program in twenty thirty two as well,
when it is in Brisbane, Australia, that we have something
to get excited about. And if it was no offense
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to the no name players, but if there were no
name players playing baseball, we would be wrapped up into it.
We've seen it in hockey. When hockey now has the
NHL players in it is a much more exciting watch.
I remember, heck when Ryan Miller of the Buffalo Sabers
was the goalie for Team USA and he's getting standing
ovations when he returns to action in the NHL because
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of what they did and what Team USA did in
the Olympics. And I think that's what major League Baseball needs.
That is what major League baseball. It's not going to
a movie set in a cornfield in Iowa. It's not
going to a NASCAR track. This is the way to
really bring people in to get them hooked. If you
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can have Major League baseball players play in the Olympic
Games and do so in twenty twenty eight, I think
it would be such a boom for baseball, bigger than
they've probably done anything in the last decade or so.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't disagree with you, especially just because a baseball
season is so long. The Olympics, it's like it is
literally win or go home. You can't take it easy
one game and then the next game. Turn it on
and to see the best of the best, but kind
of split off, kind of like the World Baseball Classic.
I mean, everybody loved that. Everybody was waiting for Otani
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against mister Trout. Everyone was waiting for that moment. It
would be something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
It gives you the feels. Yeah, exactly, I'm with you, and.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I actually think the success of the WBC shows that
it would be successful in the Olympics. Now. You may
not have an enormous amount of countries competing, but still
if you had eight, if you had twelve, if you
were able to get sixteen, however it was done, it
would be worth watching. I don't think that there would
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be as much of a strain on certain players. If
you were to have certain pitchers, the Olympics is a
two week deal. Exactly, figure out a way where you
play three or four or five games. If you have
Paul Skeins pitching for Team USA, how awesome would that be?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Be so good? It would be so good.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But he's not gonna pitch every other day. No, So
if you're the Pirates, what is it? Maybe a starter,
two or two or three starts. I understand why there
may be some trepidation with some of the Major League
Baseball teams, but you talk about the gains and the
way that you can grow the game. It's neat to
have a game in the middle of a NASCAR track.
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It's need to have a game in Iowa. And maybe
Sam has been to the Field of Dreams game, maybe
he could correct me on this. But those are just
flashes in the pan. I don't know baseball fans are
gonna go to Iowa and see that game, or Iowan's
are gonna go to that game. I don't know how
many new baseball fans you will get from it. I
just know that when you go to the Olympics, you
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have the ability to bring in new fans and you
raise the visual aspect of your sport another level or two,
and I think that's what Major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean no disrespect to break dancing, but I rather
watch a baseball game then break dance sing and it's
I'll tune into. So you think you can dance dancy
with the stars. This isn't about that.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's just how is baseball not part of the Olympics. Honestly,
who dropped the ball?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
There's France did not have it as part of their
program because it was France and baseball aren't the biggest,
so apparently breakdancing is. But the United States will be
bringing it back in twenty twenty eight, and then, as
I mentioned in twenty thirty two, it's back again. And listen,
the NBA is also not going to go right into
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their season. This has happened in their off season. But
I just don't feel like, if you were Major League
Baseball in twenty twenty eight, what is better for you
having a home run Derby and All Star Game or
having a week or two off allowing your players to
go and play in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I don't even think it's a question. Yeah, I don't
even think you can.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
If you were to ask players, fans, everyone would say, no,
get rid of the All Star Game, go the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hasn't even a question.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Isaac Lohncron at the News desk.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know, you brought up that twenty ten Gold Medal
ice hockey game between the US and Canada. The TV
audience in the United States for that game thirty three million.
The average TV audience for the twenty twenty three World
Series just over nine million.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
So by putting that into perspective, how can you.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Not Yeah, it's an absolute no brainer. Yesterday was awesome
seeing the US come back and do so with Lebron
and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and Devin Booker and
Joel Embiid all on the same team. It's actually the
point of why the ninety two Dream Team, I think
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is just so resonates so much, especially with the Magic
and Bird, because they were adversaries for so long. They
were complete opposites. I mean, we've had documentary after documentary
out how different they were. And obviously you're meeting an
NBA finals, you met in an NCAA Championship, game. But
then to see them in the same uniform on the
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same team. How awesome is that? How awesome would that
to be able to see on an Olympic stage. I
know we can in the WBC stage, but again, maybe
not everybody is playing in those contests. But I'll tell
you what. You put an Olympic medal on the line,
and I think you're having more and more players saying like, yeah,
I'll play for that. As opposed to the WBC, which,
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by the way, I think has made great strides. I
actually think it's a neat event and it's a worthwhile event.
But guess what the World Cup is every four years,
just like the Euros are every four years. You just
have it every two. So figure out a way where
you have baseball in the Olympics and then you have
the WBC two years later. Make it work that way.
But to me, it would be the only It would
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be a prudent and smart thing for Major League Baseball
to allow their players to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And it's just these are the moments where you hear
always like, oh, he's a plumber Monday through Friday, but
here he is playing in the Olympics. Like those are
the fun stories and yet seeing your favorite players, your
favorite stars, NBA stars playing together and then playing against
fellow NBA stars like it's it's just something you don't
get to see, you don't get to experience. And I
(27:17):
don't know why baseball doesn't jump on the opportunity, like
what you said every two years, like you have one
of these events, sure, like I do it now?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Why are we not jumping on this opportunity?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer. Do you see any
drawbacks any I know GMS are probably saying hold on
a second here, but is there anything that we are missing?
Hold on? Hold on that's a drop of me? MANSI
it's not really me.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I mean the stuff that complicates it is the boring
stuff to talk about, like TV deals and everything, Like
you can't really shorten the season because there's so many
Every team has their own TV contract that's already baked
in with one sixty two. That's why it's hard to
shorten seasons as it is. So then you're looking at
like either pushing back the second half of the season
(28:05):
where you're playing the World Series in like mid November,
or you're starting the season earlier like mid March, maybe
early March.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We're already doing We're already started earlier.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Every yes, yeah. But the point is is, like it's
it is there. There's a lot of logistics that would
make it difficult to accomplish, and you have to have
Major League Baseball work, specifically with the Olympics. We think
about what happened with hockey, right, Like Olympic hockey was
great and a ton of fun to watch, but then
NHL's deal with the Olympics ran out and they weren't
(28:36):
able to renegotiate something. So then they didn't have professional
players that couldn't stop the season, and those those Olympics
were nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure thirty three million as he said that gold medal game, yeah,
twenty ten, Yeah in Vancouver.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, So like it's it's it's it's very difficult because
they the Tokyo Olympics did have baseball, but I remember
for the twenty twenty it did have base Yeah, and
you're looking at like the American team, for example, was
you had some interesting prospects and then you had guys
like Edwin Jackson and Scott Kashmir who were at the
(29:10):
end of their uh the end of their careers. So
like there were ways to get Todd Frazier was on
that Olympic team. There were It's just yeah, in order
to actually generate interest for it, the league has to
stop playing and you get the biggest stars to play it.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh, go ahead, I just all I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think the players can force the issue. Like if
Bryce Harper and all these Aaron Judge, all these players
come like, I want to I want to be an Olympian.
How I think they can force the issue?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think, and I think that you're you're right about that.
I think that their voice would lend a lot of
power to it. But I also think of all of
these hurdles that were talking about the logistics, it's worth
it for the boost and the boom that you're going
to get. Iowa, Sam, you went to the field of
dreams game. What is the what was the long term
(30:00):
gain of Major League Baseball playing? Do they play two games?
It was two seasons they played the White Sox and Yankees,
and then wasn't it like Cubs and Reds?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
The first game was the Yankees and the White Scott
White Sox and the Yes, the Cubs and the Reds.
The next team, okay, and then it will be coming back.
I think the long term plan is to make it
a yearly thing. Sure, and that's not gonna lift baseball.
It's a one off thing where if like, hey, you
want to make a summer vacation trip, let's go to
the Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's for it's for baseball diehards. It's something to it's
something to feed.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
It's red meat for the core uh baseball audience, the
very nostalgic, sentimental baseball fans. Sure to make a trip
to a play special place where movie was filmed.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Bristol Motor Speedway as well, is in a spot where
you're not necessarily surrounded by a ton of Major League baseball,
where it's in the way eastern part right on the
border of Tennessee and Virginia. So you've got base people
who are probably baseball fans that are craving something like that.
But again, it's a one night thing, and it's a
novelty thing if you do it for the Olympics like
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it carries on. I remember the time. I'll use golf
as an example, my niece. This is twenty seventeen when
the US Open was back in Wisconsin at Aaron Hills,
and I took my niece, who was ten at the time,
and I took her to the course and we spent
the day there. And she doesn't she didn't care about
(31:26):
the Masters. She didn't know about the PGA Championship and
the Open Championship. She just knew that she was at
a golf tournament with her uncle. And we walked around
and we had a fun day, and I was showing
her golf and Justin Rose was signing autographs and I
told her that Justin Rose won gold in the Olympics
the year prior, in twenty sixteen, and she got his autograph,
and she thought that was an amazing deal. Wouldn't it
(31:48):
mattered if it was you know, Bubba Watson, a two
time Master's chap. Obviously Tiger Woods would have been. Tiger
didn't play that tournament. But like, there's only so many
people that you knew as a casual fan in golf,
and they were very, very few. But to have it
resonate if I said that was your PGA champion in
two thousand and two, She's like, who's rich Beam, I
don't know, but to say like gold medalist, yes, it did,
(32:12):
and so I think that that's the sort of growth
that you can also get. And honestly, I think players
would dig it. Bryce Harper would you know, talked about
maybe he's gonna be too old at that point to play.
I'm I'm not sure, but that's where major League Baseball
has to go. It's not going playing at a NASCAR park.
It's making sure that your game gets in the Olympics,
and then we end up feeling passionate about that sport
(32:34):
and then out of the break, I still feel that
you have a hangover effect and it takes your right
into the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I mean, I think you're on it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It makes too much sense.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It makes too much sense.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
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Speaker 2 (33:33):
We had two preseason games last night in the NFL.
I'm not sure if you caught them or not, but
we've now had three games with the NFL kickoff rules
that no one yet can really understand. We try to
change that. Your NFL kickoff rule quiz next here on Fox.
Thanks for listening to the Doug Gotleep Show podcast.
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byers.
She's Monty Belanos on the heels of breaking being in
the Olympics. I was showing the crew before the show
my favorite TikTok that had break dancing, and that's the
guy that did the routine to this to this song,
and it is great. I think it would be a
(34:31):
top one hundred TikTok of all time. It was everywhere,
but you guys never saw it. By the way, I
revealed my best thing I've learned from TikTok, and you
guys are refused to test after I found it on
TikTok that when you go to an elevator, when it
dings once, it's going up. When it dings twice, it's
(34:54):
going down. I never knew that. Never knew it. He
didn't know it is and Mansi, We're twenty yards away
from an elevator, and Manzi is like, I'm going to
test it out at Dodger Stadium. Just go to the
one that the party go to, the one in the building.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm going to test it out on the way to
my care I can actually test to today.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yes, But that's the greatest thing that I've learned on
TikTok is.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
That every elevator.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I just can't.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I feel like that's kind of like the thing when
you look at little gas gauge in your car and
it's like the little arrowport in the right means that
the gas opening is erectly. I never knew that. It's
like those little details of life. Yeah, thank you, Dan
Nazi talk Manzi, you are gonna be quizzed when you
go to the elevator. You're not gonna be the only
one quizzed though. In our NFL Kickoff Rules quiz, everybody
(35:41):
gets a question today as we try to present to
you ways to understand the new kickoff rule in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Oh good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
All right, let's just start it up. I'm gonna give
you guys scenarios. You each are gonna get your own scenario,
but everybody can chime in if they've got questions. We
want you to understand the kickoff because we are three
preseason games in and I'm not sure people understand what
is actually happening and what the consequences are for certain things.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't. Yeah, I am one of those people.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Isaac Longcrow, do you mind being the first one up
in this quiz where I give you a scenario and
you can pick the winner.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Not at all because I actually did have to study
for this, so cheater fire away.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
There you go. First scenario, the Ravens Justin Tucker kicks
off to the Steelers with the ball landing in the
landing zone okay, at the two yard line in the
landing zone, and then bounces into the end zone. The
Steelers choose to take a knee in the end zone.
Multiple choice question. Therefore, the Steelers will A get the
(36:46):
ball at the twenty yard line, b get the ball
at the twenty five yard line, c be forced to
relinquish the Super Bowl forty win and admit that the
fix was in by screwing the Seahawks out of a
Super Bowl title because of awful officiating, or d force
Russell Wilson to do more blocking sled routines so he
(37:08):
gets injured again and doesn't have to start. Which one
is it?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Yeah, nothing personal at all about it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
There none.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I'm sure someone else came up with that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
What a what a scam?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Believe it or not? I actually do know this one.
It is choice A. The ball will come out to
the twenty yard line.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That is correct. The twenty yard line, So a normal touchback.
Did you guys all know that.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I like ceing D much better, though they're much more
entertaining Monty.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Did you know that? No?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I didn't, So I didn't know that there was a
normal touchback.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, bounces in the landing zone, goes into the end zone.
The Steelers can take knee. They would get the ball
out at the twenty yard line. All right, Big AFC
East matchup as the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill scores a touchdown
against the Jets, but his penalized for his touchdown celebration. Okay,
Monsey the Jets. The Jets have decided to accept the
(37:59):
unsportsman like penalty, so the penalty will a be assessed
on the kickoff, allowing the Jets to kick from the fifty.
B will be assessed on the extra point attempt. C
must first be explained to Aaron Rodgers, and then he'll
decide what to do because he's the smartest man in
the room. Or D is marked off by five extra
(38:23):
yards for every kid of Tyreek Hills, making it the
longest penalty in NFL history. What is the answer here?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know, I want to say, C is what my
gut is telling me, but I'm not gonna go with
my gut.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Say A and B again.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Will be assessed on the kickoff, allowing the Jets to
kick from the fifty, or B will be assessed on
the extra point attempt.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I'm gonna say B.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That is correct. Only penalties on the y or the
conversion will be assessed on the kickoffs. Okay, so this
would back up the extra.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Actually, folks, we just have a tweet from Fox Sports
own Jay Glazer. The NFL is seriously considering replacing NFL
Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent Senior with
Fox Sports Radio's Dan Bier because of all these great
new rule possibilities.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Elima Miami Dolphins one hundred and five yard penalty will
be assessed on the point after that was my red
cash in? By the way, was you.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Gotta do the red cash in? First down?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
First down again? Way before you guys were born? Oh oh,
guess what prime pershinger? All right? Jake Mooney of the
forty nine Ers can't keep the ball on the tee
during a windy day in New York against the Giants.
The ball is falling off the tee twice you're like, well,
what are you gonna do? In an effort to avoid
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another wind blown football, San Francisco has chosen to because remember,
the players aren't lined up with the kicker, there's no
one by the kicker. San Francisco has chosen to A
give the ball to the Giants at the fifty, knowing
Daniel Jones won't lead them to a touchdown. B have
one of their players hold the ball, forcing the receiving
team to place another player in the landing zone to
(40:18):
make it fair. C Use a T to hold the ball,
which would then be immediately removed by the referee. Or
D The forty nine ers can use that dumb boom
box that they use coming out of the locker room
because it hasn't brought him a championship anyway, so let's
use it for something ABC or D. What option does
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San Francisco have.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
I will go with B that there's an extra player
in the landing zone because they need to bring one
back to.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Hold the ball. Okay, that is incorrect. You can use
a T to hold it up and like the extra
point like when the kickoff, the referee then would immediately
remove that tee that would hold the ball in place
as the play continued. Yeah, so you would have that
(41:10):
when you see them warm up in pregame and they
don't have a holder, they just kick themselves. That's what
you could use then to hold the football. Yeah, they
don't have a dog running on the field and grabbing
it and quickly running off to the sidelines, or you
know those those sort of gifts that they were like,
they have that auctions like hey, running, get the tee,
or this guy scored. This kid, this ten year old
(41:31):
scored eighteen touchdowns at his flight football game. He gets
to run on the field and get the tee. That
is not happening with this. This is the referee is
grabbing the tee. All right, Iowa, Sam, are you ready
for this one? I suppose? All right? After scoring a touchdown,
the Falcons have gotten within four points of the Panthers
with fifty seconds left, and they've declared that they will
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set up an onside kick. Therefore, is it A The
Falcons must still have their minimum of two players in
the landing zone, despite the setup zone being at the
falcons forty five yard line. Excuse me, the Panthers must
still have their minimum of two players. B. A normal
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on side rules apply in the scenario. See Carolina must
have eleven players bent over forward at the waist before
the ball is kicked, similar to the way that the
Bears had them prior to the twenty twenty three drafts.
Or D. The Panthers won't be winning with fifty seconds left.
So this is a trick question.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
Can you repeat A and B again real quick? Sorry,
someone was walking in a very rude person.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, that's okay. I actually also I also did not
do a sufficient job in explaining it. So the Falcons
have just scored a touchdown, yes, yes, and they've declared
that they want an on side kick. But all the
players are thirty yards downfield, So how do you end
up making it work? Okay, the Falcons as they set
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up to try to get the on side kick, the
Panthers must have two of their players within the landing
zone thirty yards downfield. So despite the setup zone being
at the falcons forty five yard line, they must have
two of their players in the landing zone. Or B,
normal on side rules apply. I say A as my choice,
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it's B. It's B. I completely led you on a
road that was so confusing that basically it's just an
on side kick.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
I need to like, I need for this stuff to like,
I need a visual I need to see it so
I can visualize it and really understand it.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I know that was confusing as heck. I know it
was the whole point of this. I couldn't even read it.
I didn't even know what I was saying.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
It sounds like if a train leaves this station station
at twelve oh five and another train leaves it.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
At one point there. I was just saying words. I
don't even know if it was a sentence.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
If my train leaves Albuquerque at a fifteen.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, like I just I throw a number there, just
for the sake of it, all right, he sounds fine. Yeah,
it was so confusing that you felt like, well, that
has to because nobody understands these rules. But two of
you actually got them, right, didn't you. Yeah, I took it.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I think I took a guest.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
There is one caveat to the on side rule where,
because you will line up normally in an on side
kick formation, if you were to kick deep, apparently if
it goes too far and no one recovers it, then
the receiving team will actually get the ball. At the
twenty yard line. It's a very weird rule that. By
(44:39):
the way, no one on YouTube, no one in the
NFL has explained how this is going to work. Even
in their explanations. They have written this rule in but
no one has explained it. So basically normal onside rules apply.
We will learn as it is happening on how these
rules work out. You ready for the final question? Yes,
team effort here, everyone is involved. Are you ready? Strike
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up the band for question number five? The Chiefs Harrison
Butker kicks off to the Raiders with the ball sailing
out of the back of the end zone. Therefore, A
gives the Raiders the football at the twenty five yard line.
B gives the Raiders the football at the thirty yard line.
See Butker will be assigned dishwashing duties for a week
(45:25):
at home. Indeed, Butker must take driving lessons from Rashid Rice.
Where are we? It doesn't say, it's a right answer.
Where are we? If Harrison Butcker kicks the ball out
of the end zone?
Speaker 4 (45:42):
It's B no B.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Can you say the thirty yard thirty yard line?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Thirty yard line? With that isak nodding, Isaac nodding about
you're going to confirm that second, that emotion it is.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
There.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
It is now what I actually knew. Good work, thank you,
But I don't understand anything else happening with the new
kickoff rules.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
It is super confusing. It's still even last night and
seeing the landing zone and seeing like how it fit
on the screen, it was just it's just really really odd.
Good job, guys, really good and again sorry to lead
Iowa Sam down that scenic road.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
All right. Usually I like the scenics. It's uh, listen, don't.
We can't really understand a lot of these new rules
until they're in play and they're in action.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I just hope that the reps understand them.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Upisode two, there's gonna be a coach that has no
idea what's going to happen at some point, and it's
going to find out like they tried to explain it.
Every single article that I had looked online to try
to get more information about this basically copied the NFL's
information and just put it on their page and then
are like, all right, you guys, figure it out, because
that's what we've got with the new kickoff rule. Still
(46:58):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
A very very special day today here on Fox Sports Radio,
not only because the Olympics are winding down, Manzi. It
is a historic day in the history of sports, one
that I know is near and dear to Isaac Lohenkron's heart.
There are others here that may not remember the actual moment,
(00:42):
but in the theme of the Olympics, we will decipher
whether this moment in sports transactional history is the actual
gold metal moment of all sports when it comes to transactions.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It is quite incredible this transaction because even if you
weren't around for.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It, the name holds so much weight.
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Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, I could have done it. You don't remember done it.
Monsey got the copy right and write in a split
second time.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I know he knows it by heart. I do not.
I do not. After after I still that is one
of my flaws. Can't do it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
No, but I think I've said it just between you
and I. I always say it, so you know.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Maybe that's why do you do you even remember this move?
I think you were maybe too young. Absolutely, yes, I
don't want to age. I don't want to age anyone. Yeah,
I know, Actually this move happened before you were born.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Oh great, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I know what happened before Ryan Bersinger was born and
Iowa Sam. I'm not sure exactly how old Iowa Sam is. Oh,
I'm going to just say somewhere in the neighborhood. But
he would not be old enough to remember when this happened.
I remember when it happened, and I'm pretty sure Isaac
Lohenkron remembers when it happened. So I want to at
(02:13):
least give the floor to him, because I feel like
he's the most invested to start this topic. What is
today the thirty sixth anniversary of Isaac lowincron the.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Biggest trade in sports history, literally the greatest trade in
sports history, when Wayne Gretzky, the most dominant team sport
athlete of all time, was traded in the prime of
his career from the Edmonton Oilers, who had won four
out of the last five Stanley Cups, two Hollywood Tinseltown
(02:45):
and the Los Angeles Kings.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I just question here, was this done because of Hollywood?
Was this done to send him to LA?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The Oilers needed money right now?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The owner of the Edmonton Oilers, Peter Pocklington, Yes, Brittany
needed money. They were the dynasty in the NHL, but
that did not translate to his pocketbook because of their
market size.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So you trade Wayne GRETZKYU, you're gonna have to pay
at some point right as well? And he goes to
LA and really, and I need isaacrrety because I'm not
a native Californian or from southern California. But this changed
everything in southern California with hockey, right this.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
It changed everything in southern California. It changed everything in
the Sun Belt. Barry Melrose, who a couple of years
later would coach Gretzky and the Kings to the Stanley
Cup Finals. Said that the Wayne Gretzky trade didn't just
save hockey in Los Angeles. He said it saved the
National Hockey League. There you go back then only twenty
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one teams. If that Gretzky trade does not happen, there
would be no San Jose Sharks, there would be no
Anaheim Ducks, there would be no Vegas Golden Knights, there
would be no Dallas Stars. It had that big of
an impact.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Enormous on the metal stand. Isaac says it wins gold,
But I'm just not sure if it does win gold.
And that's what I want to figure out today, is
on this thirty sixth anniversary, maybe we are prisoners of
the moment, Maybe we are prisoners of the anniversary. But
it brings to mind what are the actual biggest moves
(04:28):
And when we're talking about this, and we're talking about
this anniversary, I believe you were the first one to
say it. What first popped into your mind? This isn't trades,
this is transaction. So this can be trades, this can
be you know, player movement, free agency.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I instantly thought of MESSI joining Inner Miami. I know
that's super recent, but.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It was so big for MLS and for soccer in
the US. And then Ryan Berschinger, our producer, brought up
David Beckham, and I was like, yeah, he maybe started this,
but the effect is not the same.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't want to say like like Beckham walked so
Messi could run, but sort of yes, yeah, that's that's
like the feeling that I got for I went to
an LA Galaxy game. Yeah, so like that's enough. Like
just Beckham was was playing, so I ended up. It
made reason for me to go. Now, the thought process
(05:27):
of bringing old European stars over to a new league
in the United States, the actual growth of the sport
has its huge dynamics, and the Galaxy were good. They were,
I mean, and Beckham was even in his later years,
is probably better than most, maybe if not all, of
the players in the MLS at the time. But in
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terms of like where the league is gone, like even
Messi comes over here in the waning years of his
career and then as immediately the best player, and the
past year or whatever it's been has been a bit
of history. I do think that your point is well taken,
that it's under consideration. The biggest move that I looked at,
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and I believe that others would probably feel this. When
Lebron left Cleveland for Miami. Yeah, like that I just
for and it's not the return trip to Cleveland, even
though he won a title, it was everything that came
with it. It really did feel like it changed the game.
(06:30):
We blamed Lebron for the Big three, and even though
I don't think big threes really work and there were
only two titles, there were four straight trips to the
NBA Finals for Lebron there, and it also brought in
a true villain team in the NBA. The ramifications of
how other teams responded. It was just the TV aspect
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of it, of ripping the hearts out of Cleveland. Like,
I think that is a top three. So if we've
got Lebron leaving Cleveland and the Gretzky trade and you're
trying to make it in this Olympic theme that we're
tying it in on this metal stand, if you will,
there's got to be one more. So we've got the
biggest deal in hockey. I think it's the biggest deal
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in basketball. So then that leaves baseball and football.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It is the biggest deal in basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But because it's Lebron James, right, because there's been so
many others in basketball. I mean, we could talk Shack
whether you want to say Shack from the Magic to
the Lakers or from the Lakers to the Heat. I
feel like that's also a really.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Big one, right.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But it's like Lebron's name.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The decision TV.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Absolutely, But I will say that him going to the
Lakers I feel like in a way even diminishes.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
What he did going to Miami.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Like if you would have stayed there and then gone
back to Cleveland and just stayed on the East, I
feel like it had so much weight Now that he's
gone to Lakers. I'm like, well, I mean, in hindsight,
I don't know if this was that big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think people forget the Lakers championship at times when
you're talking about Lebron and his time titles. You forget
that he has four NBA titles. I think that sometimes
we even just pass over because we remember Cleveland being
the third. I would also put the Durant to Golden State. Mmm,
like if there was a runner up, that would be
it for what it changed. But it doesn't rise to
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the level of Lebron going on national TV, taking these
meetings leading up to what he was going to decide
in free agency. The Heat contingent are there, there's the
Knicks contingent, the Calves were able to speak with him.
There were all those things that were like leading up
to the actual decision, which then allowed the decision to
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be such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right, It was all, like you just said, everything leading
the drama kept surrounding that moment.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Because we weren't sure what was he gonna do? What
is he going to do?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I feel like a little different than the Wayne Gretzky
situation like this one just he you know, it's Lebron.
He loves the attention, so he, you know, stretched it
out as long as he could.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We'd love to hear what you think are the biggest
moves that we've seen in sports on this anniversary of
Gretzky's trade to the LA Kings. Hit Mancy up at
Manzi Blanos. He can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Would love your input. Here's the deal with football, Because
you talk about recency bias. I think if you would
argue there could be a point where if we were
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brainstorming if we were just trying to come up with
a bunch of different NFL deals. Tom Brady leaving the
Patriots for the Buccaneers is a big deal, but I
think there's recency bias, and honestly, while he got another championship,
I don't know if it really had the lasting effect
as a couple of other deals have in football. I
think that there are two deals, and again, sorry kind
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of predates your guys time. One was in free agency
and it was Reggie White leaving the Philadelphia Eagles for
the Green Bay Packers. Reggie White was the defender for Philadelphia,
minister of defense, leader of that defense. But also now
you free agency in the NFL, teams being or players
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being able to sign with the teams that they want,
change the NFL. And then he goes to Green Bay
and really revitalizes the entire Green Bay Packers organization. It
was a huge, huge deal. So gist of it being
free agency comes to the NFL and Reggie White leaves
the egos to the Packers is a big enough deal.
But honestly, I think the biggest deal in all is
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the Herschel Walker trade, and it is still talked about
today because it set up the Dallas Cowboys for their
great championships. And herschel Walker was such a name in
the nineteen eighties, whether it be at Georgia winning the
Heisman Trophy and then him in the USFL and then
coming to the National Football League and being the piece
that he was for the Cowboys and having the Cowboys involved.
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I would actually put the herschel Walker trade above Reggie
White signing with the Green Bay Packers because it is
still when we have a lot side of trade in
Major League Baseball at stay you know herschel Walker trade.
This is the herschel Walker sort of deal. What kind
of package, Well, you need a herschel Walker sort of package.
But it completely reshaped the Cowboys franchise and herschel Walker
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was a big name at that time. And so I
think the hershe Ol' Walker trade probably the biggest move
that we've had in the National Football League.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Well, again, we weren't around for that. I don't know.
I was thinking Randy Moss Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Sure, Oakland Raiders, Yes, when he went to the Patriots,
But the thing was we went to the Patriots. There
was a little he was soured on Yeah, and Brady
and the Patriots revitalized his career because he went to
Oakland and there was Yeah, it was. He turned his
career around and obviously had the record sending year with
the New England Patriots.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It was a huge, huge deal baseball wise.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
There's a couple I think in baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Ryan Bursinger is our executive producer. I thought a Rod
signing with the Rangers. I'm bringing Bursch in on this.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
For some reason, that was just huge for the for
the amount of money that he got for the young
star that he want at the time. I don't think
it would top Gretzky or herschel, Walker or Lebron by
any means. But when I think of like enormous baseball deals,
a Rod is one of those. That's just him leaving Seattle.
And it wasn't even for the Yankees. No, it wasn't
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Ken Rosenthal, you know, breaking any news or this and
that during the World Series. It was, you know, a
Rod leaves for the Texas Rangers, and that was a huge,
huge deal back in the day. No, I agree.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
What we don't realize is a Rod was twenty five
his first season with the Rangers. That's that's amazing for
somebody to hit free agency at that age with the
amount of talent. I mean, Juan SODA's gonna basically do
that next.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
It was a gigantic shift in terms of what it
meant for the league because of just how much money
he got out of that deal. It was incredible when
I think of baseball transactions, and I understand that none
of us were alive at this time, but and it's
different because he wasn't who he was yet. But you
can't tell the story of baseball, the history of baseball
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without Babe Ruth going from the Red Sox to the
Yankees and just what that meant for both of those
franchises for a century. It's the fact that we all
know about it now. Again, Babe Ruth was a very
good player when he was with the Red Sox. He
was a two way player, but he didn't become Babe
Ruth the legend until he was a Yankee. Sure, and
it completely, of course set forth the two franchises in
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completely different directions for the next century.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Really, when that trade went down, it actually I read
about this, It actually broke Twitter. It did. It was crazy.
It wasn't around its.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Carrier pigeons. That's where they got the logo.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I you know, that's a very fair point. That would
trump and that would and I'll tell you what, if
we're talking about it, what one hundred years, you know
later that it's it does carry the weight. So here
you go. So you got so, you got Gretzky, you
got herschel Walker, you got Lebron, and you got Babe Ruth.
Like there are other baseball deals guys.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I mean, yeah, but Otani, I think we're maybe we're.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Having a different conversation about it in a couple of years,
seeing what he does with the Dodgers. I was thinking
of David Ortiz, Big Poppy going to the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But again at the time, he wasn't David Ortiz.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
But that's right, And that's what I mean about, like
with Otani, maybe we're having a different conversation in a
couple of years. But right now we don't know exactly
what's happening with the doctor.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
There's if if I think you're gonna be the voice
of reason, and well I know that you put Gretzky
on top, but who's the odd one out of the
herschel Walker, Babe Ruth Lebron, and the Gretzky deals. Who
doesn't meddle in this.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
I would say herschel Walker because of the drama and
the spectacle around it. From a football standpoint, it was
one of the most consequential trades in sports history. I
mean it directly led to the Cowboys winning three Super
Bowls in a four year span. But it didn't have
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the cultural or media drama as the other ones. I mean,
you know, the teletype machines and the carrier pigeons back
in the roaring twenties, I mean the newsboys on the corner,
extra extra read all about it. That was a big
deal and it would have been a huge deal if
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there was sports talk radio back then.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
It was gosh. I just have a tough time taking
it off of the list. But to the point that
said Gretzky sayd the league, I think Lebron, I actually
feel that the free agency now should be a week
long of TV shows, just like Paul George should have
had a decision where he announced it. I'm sorry, it's
just sports. I like, if you want to burn jerseys
(16:02):
or do whatever, I think it's a much better option.
But I would I would put Babe Ruth Gold, I
would put Gretzky Silver, Lebron Bronx. Okay, that's that's what
I would do. Yeah, Lebron. Ryan Berschinger's here, so is
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Speaker 2 (17:16):
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I get tired of the NBA at times, I really do.
I get warned down. I've made no secret of it,
but I'll tell you yesterday was awesome. Yesterday was great.
I've said it for weeks. I'm sick of talking about
the Olympic team like we talk about the NBA. I
just want to sit back and cheer and root for USA.
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And yesterday seventeen point comeback by the United States against
Serbia was amazing. Doug It even asked me right before
Tipbov like, do you care about this game? I go,
I will care during the game, I go, it's not
going to bother me afterwards. I didn't bother me leading
up to it, but as the game was going on,
it was great. It was exciting, and you know what
(18:26):
was actually wrong a little bit. There was a good
feeling afterwards.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, yeah, because they came out of it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
There was adversity something we hadn't seen, and Serbia was
playing really well.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
All the itches were just on top of it, all
of us.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yes, but the US got their tough act in to
acting and we're able to get stuff to stop and
put an end by outscoring Serbia by seventeen points in
the fourth quarter. I thought it was great to hear
Kevin Durant talk about, Yeah, this is what it's all about.
This is about us enjoying this.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
This isn't still arguing with people on Twitter.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It was arguing with people who are saying that the
US got lucky and that they should just get by.
And that's what he was arguing. He says, we should
enjoy it. This is what this was all about. This
was great to play with these this group of players.
And I agree with Kevin Durant, and I hope, and
I hope major League Baseball is listening. Why so because
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Major League Baseball today made an announcement that had some
say wow, cool and others kind of scratching their head. Yeah,
way to Major League Baseball officially announced that this was
leaked the day or two ago, that a game was
going to be played at Bristol Motor Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee,
on the infield of the short track, and sure enough,
Braves and Reds are going to play there August two,
(19:45):
twenty twenty five, a game is going to be played
in the infield of a NASCAR track. Pretty amazing, right,
Pretty cool? I would say, not as cool as the
Field of Dreams game. All right. While I think it's unique,
I think the Field of Dreams game is more rooted
in baseball.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It gives you the fields, yes.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yes, But you know what else gave me the fields
watching Team USA come back from seventeen points down with
its best players to beat Serbia. And this leads to
the point. One sport we aren't talking about in the
Olympics is baseball because baseball is not a part of
the program in twenty twenty four, but it will be
in twenty twenty eight. And I just feel that Major
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League Baseball and this has been talked about and Bryce
Harper has said made it be known a I'd love
to be an Olympian. We need Major League Baseball players
in the Olympic Games when baseball is a part of
the program, and it looks like it's going to be
a part of the program in twenty thirty two as well,
when it is in Brisbane, Australia, that we have something
to get excited about. And if it was no offense
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to the no name players, but if there were no
name players playing baseball, we would be wrapped up into it.
We've seen it in hockey. When hockey now has the
NHL players in it is a much more exciting watch.
I remember, heck when Ryan Miller of the Buffalo Sabers
was the goalie for Team USA and he's getting standing
ovations when he returns to action in the NHL because
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of what they did and what Team USA did in
the Olympics. And I think that's what major League Baseball needs.
That is what major League baseball. It's not going to
a movie set in a cornfield in Iowa. It's not
going to a NASCAR track. This is the way to
really bring people in to get them hooked. If you
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can have Major League baseball players play in the Olympic
Games and do so in twenty twenty eight, I think
it would be such a boom for baseball, bigger than
they've probably done anything in the last decade or so.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't disagree with you, especially just because a baseball
season is so long. The Olympics, it's like it is
literally win or go home. You can't take it easy
one game and then the next game. Turn it on
and to see the best of the best, but kind
of split off, kind of like the World Baseball Classic.
I mean, everybody loved that. Everybody was waiting for Otani
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against mister Trout. Everyone was waiting for that moment. It
would be something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
It gives you the feels. Yeah, exactly, I'm with you, and.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I actually think the success of the WBC shows that
it would be successful in the Olympics. Now. You may
not have an enormous amount of countries competing, but still
if you had eight, if you had twelve, if you
were able to get sixteen, however it was done, it
would be worth watching. I don't think that there would
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be as much of a strain on certain players. If
you were to have certain pitchers, the Olympics is a
two week deal. Exactly, figure out a way where you
play three or four or five games. If you have
Paul Skeins pitching for Team USA, how awesome would that be?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Be so good? It would be so good.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
But he's not gonna pitch every other day. No, So
if you're the Pirates, what is it? Maybe a starter,
two or two or three starts. I understand why there
may be some trepidation with some of the Major League
Baseball teams, but you talk about the gains and the
way that you can grow the game. It's neat to
have a game in the middle of a NASCAR track.
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It's need to have a game in Iowa. And maybe
Sam has been to the Field of Dreams game, maybe
he could correct me on this. But those are just
flashes in the pan. I don't know baseball fans are
gonna go to Iowa and see that game, or Iowan's
are gonna go to that game. I don't know how
many new baseball fans you will get from it. I
just know that when you go to the Olympics, you
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have the ability to bring in new fans and you
raise the visual aspect of your sport another level or two,
and I think that's what Major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah, it seems like a missed opportunity.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I mean no disrespect to break dancing, but I rather
watch a baseball game then break dance sing and it's
I'll tune into. So you think you can dance dancy
with the stars. This isn't about that.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
It's just how is baseball not part of the Olympics. Honestly,
who dropped the ball?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
There's France did not have it as part of their
program because it was France and baseball aren't the biggest,
so apparently breakdancing is. But the United States will be
bringing it back in twenty twenty eight, and then, as
I mentioned in twenty thirty two, it's back again. And listen,
the NBA is also not going to go right into
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their season. This has happened in their off season. But
I just don't feel like, if you were Major League
Baseball in twenty twenty eight, what is better for you
having a home run Derby and All Star Game or
having a week or two off allowing your players to
go and play in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I don't even think it's a question. Yeah, I don't
even think you can.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
If you were to ask players, fans, everyone would say, no,
get rid of the All Star Game, go the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hasn't even a question.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Isaac Lohncron at the News desk.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
You know, you brought up that twenty ten Gold Medal
ice hockey game between the US and Canada. The TV
audience in the United States for that game thirty three million.
The average TV audience for the twenty twenty three World
Series just over nine million.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
So by putting that into perspective, how can you.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Not Yeah, it's an absolute no brainer. Yesterday was awesome
seeing the US come back and do so with Lebron
and Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and Devin Booker and
Joel Embiid all on the same team. It's actually the
point of why the ninety two Dream Team, I think
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is just so resonates so much, especially with the Magic
and Bird, because they were adversaries for so long. They
were complete opposites. I mean, we've had documentary after documentary
out how different they were. And obviously you're meeting an
NBA finals, you met in an NCAA Championship, game. But
then to see them in the same uniform on the
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same team. How awesome is that? How awesome would that
to be able to see on an Olympic stage. I
know we can in the WBC stage, but again, maybe
not everybody is playing in those contests. But I'll tell
you what. You put an Olympic medal on the line,
and I think you're having more and more players saying like, yeah,
I'll play for that. As opposed to the WBC, which,
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by the way, I think has made great strides. I
actually think it's a neat event and it's a worthwhile event.
But guess what the World Cup is every four years,
just like the Euros are every four years. You just
have it every two. So figure out a way where
you have baseball in the Olympics and then you have
the WBC two years later. Make it work that way.
But to me, it would be the only It would
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be a prudent and smart thing for Major League Baseball
to allow their players to be able to play.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And it's just these are the moments where you hear
always like, oh, he's a plumber Monday through Friday, but
here he is playing in the Olympics. Like those are
the fun stories and yet seeing your favorite players, your
favorite stars, NBA stars playing together and then playing against
fellow NBA stars like it's it's just something you don't
get to see, you don't get to experience. And I
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don't know why baseball doesn't jump on the opportunity, like
what you said every two years, like you have one
of these events, sure, like I do it now?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Why are we not jumping on this opportunity?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Ryan Berschinger is our executive producer. Do you see any
drawbacks any I know GMS are probably saying hold on
a second here, but is there anything that we are missing?
Hold on? Hold on that's a drop of me? MANSI
it's not really me.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
I mean the stuff that complicates it is the boring
stuff to talk about, like TV deals and everything, Like
you can't really shorten the season because there's so many
Every team has their own TV contract that's already baked
in with one sixty two. That's why it's hard to
shorten seasons as it is. So then you're looking at
like either pushing back the second half of the season
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where you're playing the World Series in like mid November,
or you're starting the season earlier like mid March, maybe
early March.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
We're already doing We're already started earlier.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Every yes, yeah. But the point is is, like it's
it is there. There's a lot of logistics that would
make it difficult to accomplish, and you have to have
Major League Baseball work, specifically with the Olympics. We think
about what happened with hockey, right, Like Olympic hockey was
great and a ton of fun to watch, but then
NHL's deal with the Olympics ran out and they weren't
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able to renegotiate something. So then they didn't have professional
players that couldn't stop the season, and those those Olympics
were nobody cared.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Sure thirty three million as he said that gold medal game, yeah,
twenty ten, Yeah in Vancouver.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Yeah, So like it's it's it's it's very difficult because
they the Tokyo Olympics did have baseball, but I remember
for the twenty twenty it did have base Yeah, and
you're looking at like the American team, for example, was
you had some interesting prospects and then you had guys
like Edwin Jackson and Scott Kashmir who were at the
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end of their uh the end of their careers. So
like there were ways to get Todd Frazier was on
that Olympic team. There were It's just yeah, in order
to actually generate interest for it, the league has to
stop playing and you get the biggest stars to play it.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Oh, go ahead, I just all I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think the players can force the issue. Like if
Bryce Harper and all these Aaron Judge, all these players
come like, I want to I want to be an Olympian.
How I think they can force the issue?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think, and I think that you're you're right about that.
I think that their voice would lend a lot of
power to it. But I also think of all of
these hurdles that were talking about the logistics, it's worth
it for the boost and the boom that you're going
to get. Iowa, Sam, you went to the field of
dreams game. What is the what was the long term
(30:00):
gain of Major League Baseball playing? Do they play two games?
It was two seasons they played the White Sox and Yankees,
and then wasn't it like Cubs and Reds?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
The first game was the Yankees and the White Scott
White Sox and the Yes, the Cubs and the Reds.
The next team, okay, and then it will be coming back.
I think the long term plan is to make it
a yearly thing. Sure, and that's not gonna lift baseball.
It's a one off thing where if like, hey, you
want to make a summer vacation trip, let's go to
the Field of Dreams game.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's for it's for baseball diehards. It's something to it's
something to feed.
Speaker 8 (30:32):
It's red meat for the core uh baseball audience, the
very nostalgic, sentimental baseball fans. Sure to make a trip
to a play special place where movie was filmed.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Bristol Motor Speedway as well, is in a spot where
you're not necessarily surrounded by a ton of Major League baseball,
where it's in the way eastern part right on the
border of Tennessee and Virginia. So you've got base people
who are probably baseball fans that are craving something like that.
But again, it's a one night thing, and it's a
novelty thing if you do it for the Olympics like
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it carries on. I remember the time. I'll use golf
as an example, my niece. This is twenty seventeen when
the US Open was back in Wisconsin at Aaron Hills,
and I took my niece, who was ten at the time,
and I took her to the course and we spent
the day there. And she doesn't she didn't care about
(31:26):
the Masters. She didn't know about the PGA Championship and
the Open Championship. She just knew that she was at
a golf tournament with her uncle. And we walked around
and we had a fun day, and I was showing
her golf and Justin Rose was signing autographs and I
told her that Justin Rose won gold in the Olympics
the year prior, in twenty sixteen, and she got his autograph,
and she thought that was an amazing deal. Wouldn't it
(31:48):
mattered if it was you know, Bubba Watson, a two
time Master's chap. Obviously Tiger Woods would have been. Tiger
didn't play that tournament. But like, there's only so many
people that you knew as a casual fan in golf,
and they were very, very few. But to have it
resonate if I said that was your PGA champion in
two thousand and two, She's like, who's rich Beam, I
don't know, but to say like gold medalist, yes, it did,
(32:12):
and so I think that that's the sort of growth
that you can also get. And honestly, I think players
would dig it. Bryce Harper would you know, talked about
maybe he's gonna be too old at that point to play.
I'm I'm not sure, but that's where major League Baseball
has to go. It's not going playing at a NASCAR park.
It's making sure that your game gets in the Olympics,
and then we end up feeling passionate about that sport
(32:34):
and then out of the break, I still feel that
you have a hangover effect and it takes your right
into the rest of the year.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I mean, I think you're on it.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
It makes too much sense.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
It makes too much sense.
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We had two preseason games last night in the NFL.
I'm not sure if you caught them or not, but
we've now had three games with the NFL kickoff rules
that no one yet can really understand. We try to
change that. Your NFL kickoff rule quiz next here on Fox.
Thanks for listening to the Doug Gotleep Show podcast.
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Speaker 2 (34:08):
Doug Gottlib Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byers.
She's Monty Belanos on the heels of breaking being in
the Olympics. I was showing the crew before the show
my favorite TikTok that had break dancing, and that's the
guy that did the routine to this to this song,
and it is great. I think it would be a
(34:31):
top one hundred TikTok of all time. It was everywhere,
but you guys never saw it. By the way, I
revealed my best thing I've learned from TikTok, and you
guys are refused to test after I found it on
TikTok that when you go to an elevator, when it
dings once, it's going up. When it dings twice, it's
(34:54):
going down. I never knew that. Never knew it. He
didn't know it is and Mansi, We're twenty yards away
from an elevator, and Manzi is like, I'm going to
test it out at Dodger Stadium. Just go to the
one that the party go to, the one in the building.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm going to test it out on the way to
my care I can actually test to today.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yes, But that's the greatest thing that I've learned on
TikTok is.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
That every elevator.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
I just can't.
Speaker 8 (35:20):
I feel like that's kind of like the thing when
you look at little gas gauge in your car and
it's like the little arrowport in the right means that
the gas opening is erectly. I never knew that. It's
like those little details of life. Yeah, thank you, Dan
Nazi talk Manzi, you are gonna be quizzed when you
go to the elevator. You're not gonna be the only
one quizzed though. In our NFL Kickoff Rules quiz, everybody
(35:41):
gets a question today as we try to present to
you ways to understand the new kickoff rule in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Oh good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
All right, let's just start it up. I'm gonna give
you guys scenarios. You each are gonna get your own scenario,
but everybody can chime in if they've got questions. We
want you to understand the kickoff because we are three
preseason games in and I'm not sure people understand what
is actually happening and what the consequences are for certain things.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I don't. Yeah, I am one of those people.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Isaac Longcrow, do you mind being the first one up
in this quiz where I give you a scenario and
you can pick the winner.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Not at all because I actually did have to study
for this, so cheater fire away.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
There you go. First scenario, the Ravens Justin Tucker kicks
off to the Steelers with the ball landing in the
landing zone okay, at the two yard line in the
landing zone, and then bounces into the end zone. The
Steelers choose to take a knee in the end zone.
Multiple choice question. Therefore, the Steelers will A get the
(36:46):
ball at the twenty yard line, b get the ball
at the twenty five yard line, c be forced to
relinquish the Super Bowl forty win and admit that the
fix was in by screwing the Seahawks out of a
Super Bowl title because of awful officiating, or d force
Russell Wilson to do more blocking sled routines so he
(37:08):
gets injured again and doesn't have to start. Which one
is it?
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Yeah, nothing personal at all about it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
There none.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I'm sure someone else came up with that.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
What a what a scam?
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Believe it or not? I actually do know this one.
It is choice A. The ball will come out to
the twenty yard line.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That is correct. The twenty yard line, So a normal touchback.
Did you guys all know that.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I like ceing D much better, though they're much more
entertaining Monty.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Did you know that? No?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I didn't, So I didn't know that there was a
normal touchback.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yes, bounces in the landing zone, goes into the end zone.
The Steelers can take knee. They would get the ball
out at the twenty yard line. All right, Big AFC
East matchup as the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill scores a touchdown
against the Jets, but his penalized for his touchdown celebration. Okay,
Monsey the Jets. The Jets have decided to accept the
(37:59):
unsportsman like penalty, so the penalty will a be assessed
on the kickoff, allowing the Jets to kick from the fifty.
B will be assessed on the extra point attempt. C
must first be explained to Aaron Rodgers, and then he'll
decide what to do because he's the smartest man in
the room. Or D is marked off by five extra
(38:23):
yards for every kid of Tyreek Hills, making it the
longest penalty in NFL history. What is the answer here?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
You know, I want to say, C is what my
gut is telling me, but I'm not gonna go with
my gut.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Say A and B again.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Will be assessed on the kickoff, allowing the Jets to
kick from the fifty, or B will be assessed on
the extra point attempt.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I'm gonna say B.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That is correct. Only penalties on the y or the
conversion will be assessed on the kickoffs. Okay, so this
would back up the extra.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Actually, folks, we just have a tweet from Fox Sports
own Jay Glazer. The NFL is seriously considering replacing NFL
Executive Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent Senior with
Fox Sports Radio's Dan Bier because of all these great
new rule possibilities.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Elima Miami Dolphins one hundred and five yard penalty will
be assessed on the point after that was my red
cash in? By the way, was you.
Speaker 5 (39:30):
Gotta do the red cash in? First down?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
First down again? Way before you guys were born? Oh oh,
guess what prime pershinger? All right? Jake Mooney of the
forty nine Ers can't keep the ball on the tee
during a windy day in New York against the Giants.
The ball is falling off the tee twice you're like, well,
what are you gonna do? In an effort to avoid
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another wind blown football, San Francisco has chosen to because remember,
the players aren't lined up with the kicker, there's no
one by the kicker. San Francisco has chosen to A
give the ball to the Giants at the fifty, knowing
Daniel Jones won't lead them to a touchdown. B have
one of their players hold the ball, forcing the receiving
team to place another player in the landing zone to
(40:18):
make it fair. C Use a T to hold the ball,
which would then be immediately removed by the referee. Or
D The forty nine ers can use that dumb boom
box that they use coming out of the locker room
because it hasn't brought him a championship anyway, so let's
use it for something ABC or D. What option does
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San Francisco have.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
I will go with B that there's an extra player
in the landing zone because they need to bring one
back to.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Hold the ball. Okay, that is incorrect. You can use
a T to hold it up and like the extra
point like when the kickoff, the referee then would immediately
remove that tee that would hold the ball in place
as the play continued. Yeah, so you would have that
(41:10):
when you see them warm up in pregame and they
don't have a holder, they just kick themselves. That's what
you could use then to hold the football. Yeah, they
don't have a dog running on the field and grabbing
it and quickly running off to the sidelines, or you
know those those sort of gifts that they were like,
they have that auctions like hey, running, get the tee,
or this guy scored. This kid, this ten year old
(41:31):
scored eighteen touchdowns at his flight football game. He gets
to run on the field and get the tee. That
is not happening with this. This is the referee is
grabbing the tee. All right, Iowa, Sam, are you ready
for this one? I suppose? All right? After scoring a touchdown,
the Falcons have gotten within four points of the Panthers
with fifty seconds left, and they've declared that they will
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set up an onside kick. Therefore, is it A The
Falcons must still have their minimum of two players in
the landing zone, despite the setup zone being at the
falcons forty five yard line. Excuse me, the Panthers must
still have their minimum of two players. B. A normal
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on side rules apply in the scenario. See Carolina must
have eleven players bent over forward at the waist before
the ball is kicked, similar to the way that the
Bears had them prior to the twenty twenty three drafts.
Or D. The Panthers won't be winning with fifty seconds left.
So this is a trick question.
Speaker 8 (42:35):
Can you repeat A and B again real quick? Sorry,
someone was walking in a very rude person.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah, that's okay. I actually also I also did not
do a sufficient job in explaining it. So the Falcons
have just scored a touchdown, yes, yes, and they've declared
that they want an on side kick. But all the
players are thirty yards downfield, So how do you end
up making it work? Okay, the Falcons as they set
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up to try to get the on side kick, the
Panthers must have two of their players within the landing
zone thirty yards downfield. So despite the setup zone being
at the falcons forty five yard line, they must have
two of their players in the landing zone. Or B,
normal on side rules apply. I say A as my choice,
(43:24):
it's B. It's B. I completely led you on a
road that was so confusing that basically it's just an
on side kick.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
I need to like, I need for this stuff to like,
I need a visual I need to see it so
I can visualize it and really understand it.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I know that was confusing as heck. I know it
was the whole point of this. I couldn't even read it.
I didn't even know what I was saying.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
It sounds like if a train leaves this station station
at twelve oh five and another train leaves it.
Speaker 2 (43:51):
At one point there. I was just saying words. I
don't even know if it was a sentence.
Speaker 8 (43:55):
If my train leaves Albuquerque at a fifteen.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, like I just I throw a number there, just
for the sake of it, all right, he sounds fine. Yeah,
it was so confusing that you felt like, well, that
has to because nobody understands these rules. But two of
you actually got them, right, didn't you. Yeah, I took it.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
I think I took a guest.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
There is one caveat to the on side rule where,
because you will line up normally in an on side
kick formation, if you were to kick deep, apparently if
it goes too far and no one recovers it, then
the receiving team will actually get the ball. At the
twenty yard line. It's a very weird rule that. By
(44:39):
the way, no one on YouTube, no one in the
NFL has explained how this is going to work. Even
in their explanations. They have written this rule in but
no one has explained it. So basically normal onside rules apply.
We will learn as it is happening on how these
rules work out. You ready for the final question? Yes,
team effort here, everyone is involved. Are you ready? Strike
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up the band for question number five? The Chiefs Harrison
Butker kicks off to the Raiders with the ball sailing
out of the back of the end zone. Therefore, A
gives the Raiders the football at the twenty five yard line.
B gives the Raiders the football at the thirty yard line.
See Butker will be assigned dishwashing duties for a week
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at home. Indeed, Butker must take driving lessons from Rashid Rice.
Where are we? It doesn't say, it's a right answer.
Where are we? If Harrison Butcker kicks the ball out
of the end zone?
Speaker 4 (45:42):
It's B no B.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Can you say the thirty yard thirty yard line?
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Thirty yard line? With that isak nodding, Isaac nodding about
you're going to confirm that second, that emotion it is.
Speaker 6 (45:56):
There.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
It is now what I actually knew. Good work, thank you,
But I don't understand anything else happening with the new
kickoff rules.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
It is super confusing. It's still even last night and
seeing the landing zone and seeing like how it fit
on the screen, it was just it's just really really odd.
Good job, guys, really good and again sorry to lead
Iowa Sam down that scenic road.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
All right. Usually I like the scenics. It's uh, listen, don't.
We can't really understand a lot of these new rules
until they're in play and they're in action.
Speaker 4 (46:34):
I just hope that the reps understand them.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Upisode two, there's gonna be a coach that has no
idea what's going to happen at some point, and it's
going to find out like they tried to explain it.
Every single article that I had looked online to try
to get more information about this basically copied the NFL's
information and just put it on their page and then
are like, all right, you guys, figure it out, because
that's what we've got with the new kickoff rule. Still
(46:58):
completely confusing. Hey, shortly after the show, our podcast will
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