August 10, 2024 • 47 mins
On this edition of The Best Of The Week Of The Doug Gottlieb Show:Doug reacts to a report about the Colorado Football program where an anonymous former player says Coach Prime runs a program filled with guns, fights and money.
Doug welcomes former Falcons' GM Thomas Dimitroff onto the show to get his thoughts on Brandon Aiyuk, Russell Wilson and all of the other major headlines around the NFL.
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A lot to get a lot to get to. Jason
Stewart is really really into talking about this poll Walter.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
One i'd say big thing that kept him from winning
a medal. Yeah, that's that's really what it is, right.
There are so many different puns we can have for
the pole vaulter that everyone has I think on some
level discussed his performance and his performance inhibitor if you will. Yeah,
that's good stuff. We'll get to that during the show.
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We have Rick Buker who said, to join us. We'll
talk some Team USA hoop or hoops, depending upon how
you like to discuss it. We've got a whole lot
of football talk as well. A whole lot of football
talk as well. By the way, we got to welcome
in a new feel that we have in Raleigh, North Carolina.
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And I was asked yesterday, that's somebody yesterday, like, who
was he said, in a favorite city of the United States.
I wouldn't say Raleigh's my favorite city, but Raleigh is
a city where you live there, you're like, you go
there and a visit and or you go to work
there and you're like, man, I get it. I know
why so many people like it. But Michael Berger is
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our market manager and Trevor Marini is the program director.
That's on one oh six ' one FM HD two
in Raleigh, North Carolina. Thanks so much for having us
as part of your lineup, and we sure love it
and I think you'll love it as well. Okay, so
there's a new story out. There's a new story out
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about about Colorado football. Okay, Colorado football. And in this
report about Colorado football. It says that Dion Sanders, and
again you're quoting former players who said runs a program
that includes fights, guns and money. And I know there's
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a lot of us that read that and go, hey,
welcome to big time college football, right, fights, guns and money.
And there's also lots of talk, lots of talk about bullying, bullying,
and some of it even being blamed on his son, Shiloh,
who's course of a defensive back with other players. It's
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not a pretty picture, but what happens is and look,
I'm learning a lot of this as I go as
new head coach as well. When you get America's attention
and we can agree or disagree on the state of
Colorado's program or what their season was like last year
or whatever, they got a lot of attention, and attention
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does have a substantial value, I would say, up until
we really really got to where we were concerned with
who was going to win a championship, who was going
to play in the SEC championship, or the fact that
the SEC might only have one team in the playoff
or the Pac twelve and who those Pac twelve teams
would be. And Washington's emergence, Organs emergence, UCLA's falling USC
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falling apart last year, Michigan, the Connor Stallion story, which
by the way, got reinvigorated over the weekend and into today.
Like until we got to that place, all we talked
about in college football last year was Colorado, so we
talked about them a ton. But with that attention can
come negativity, and this is part of it now, disgruntled
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former players. They're not always going to say everything and
always tell bad tales. But if we're reasonable, we know, hey,
you run dudes off, and you're constantly having a cycle
of guys there for a minute, guys not there for
a minute. They may tell the exact same story as
somebody else, but you can paint it in a more
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negative light. So I'm giving Dion sort of the benefit
of the doubt. But the problem is, and look, I
live in this world. I know what's available out there.
I know what's available out there, and I'll give you
an example of a decision that I made in my
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own program. Well, I got a job. I got the
job late, right, I got a job in May. Most
jobs are mid to late March to early April. So
while there are still players out there. For example, right now,
I have one scholarship available. My school starts September fourth,
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later than others, so we can hold on to that scholarship,
and there may be somebody who gets out of theirs,
becomes available, whatever, just to make sure I have one scholarship.
But with that one scholarship, I know that the most
talented players that are in the portal currently several of them.
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I'll get a note, Hey, he does, there is there.
There is some baggage there. What's the baggage? And there
was a point guard who at one point in time
I was recruiting and he had a felony, and that
felony was for vehicular manslaughter. It was several years ago.
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He'd got behind a wheel He had at some point
in time. It wasn't drinking, it wasn't illicit drugs. I
believe it was marijuana. He had marijuana system. And he
got in a car accident and killed a woman. And
he was going nineteen to thirty five, and everything about
the rest of his record, everything about the rest of
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his record was completely clean. We talked to his high
school coach, his high school academic advisor. I talked to
his AAU coach. I talked to people who were on
his AAU team. I talked to the coaches who originally
signed him in college, and I talked to both of
the junior colleges that he went to. I talked to
players who talked to coach. I talked to the player
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himself several times over, and I had very very little
doubt that this young man was a good dude who
just made a terrible mistake, terrible mistake. And I'm somebody
who got a second chance for nonviolent crime, but still
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not proud of it in any way. So I love
being a guy who you get to know people, you
get to meet people, and you want to give them
a second chance. But man, I just I wasn't ready
to be that guy with this particular player, with this
particular crime. And thankfully for him, he ended up finding
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a really good place and I hope he does well.
The point of it is that when you're I don't
want to say, fly him by the seat of your pants,
and you're out in the portal and you're just looking
at and you're just going to get players, you will
miss some key elements to it, which is character does matter.
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And believe me, for example, the player I recruited, I
actually think he has good character. I do. One of
my issues with taking him wasn't just that wasn't just
the felony and having to explain that to people, but
it was also that I would go through all the
hoops of the felony and explain to people and get him.
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And he's the kind of player, he's higher than our level.
Does he even want to be here? And once he
is here and he's brought into here, he's gone. I'd
much rather have a guy has no baggage committed to
staying here multiple years, because I have some guys that
are going to be here for a year. So I'm
not excusing the stories in any way out of Colorado
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and what happens with guys like that. This explains why
they went south last year, Why when things got tough
and they face some adversity, why they lost so many
close games and it got worse and worse and worse
and worse. Because the guys that have the baggage, the
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guys that are the pains in the asses, the guys
that want to fight, the guys that want to smoke,
the guys that lack the personal self discipline those players.
When things go bad, they continue to bring you down.
They are not people that fight through that adversity. They're
just not. I'm not telling you anything that every coach
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doesn't know. And when you look in that portal, and
I think Dion came in with the mindset of, Hey,
I'm going to be somebody who I don't have to
spend money because people want to come play for me.
Because if you come play for me, I know everybody
in the NFL, and everybody in the NFL is gonna
take my word for it and we'll make you in
an NFL star. That sounds great, But at the end
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of the day today they became somebody who you lived
too much in the portal. You're getting somebody else's problem,
and you're getting a player who only comes there for
the attention and for the money, and you're not taking
a guy of high character. And this is what happens.
All of these things to those of us who live
a life of a college coach, completely understand. And all
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of it is based upon who you recruit, how you recruit,
and what you value in recruiting. In basketball, they say
you can have two three is a gang, you know, that,
and that comes down to everything. Guys that academically don't
cut it. You can have one, you can have two
threes a gang, guys that don't get along, you know
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with everybody at the university. One two three is a gag.
And I and look when you when you call your
shot the way Dion called his shot, he knows you
need dudes. You got to take some chances. You take
too many chances of what's happened. And then one of
the main culprits of it is one of his sons,
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his lesser talented of his two player sons in Shiloh,
who looks like he could be a really good player,
but probably doesn't purport himself for handle himself that well.
And when you give when you give a guy who's
a coach's son that much power and that much leadership,
if he's not really really good at it and really
doesn't know how to wield it, it becomes a mess.
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None of it matters by the way of Colorado wins.
And what I think is an inferior league to last
year's PAC twelve. They should have more talent, they should
have a better chance to win, but they're scheduling the
non conference is way more difficult because now it's Nebraska
year two on the road Colorado State, you know, which
was a great game last year on the road, and
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so they may be better, but they may lose both
those games this year coming into a league and the
Big twelve last year was okay, wasn't as good as
the PAC twelve and they got mollywomped in the Pac twelve.
But when you lose a couple of games in the
non conference and you have those guys bringing you down,
you're bound to turn the wrong way. I don't know.
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I'm not the least bit surprised by any of these stories,
not the least bit surprised. Because when you give money
and you sprinkle in talent and personalities to a place
that hasn't had it and just wants to do whatever
it takes. I've told you before, Colorado will lose deon
senators the second they say no. Dion does not want
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to hear the word no. He thinks he has the
cure for cancer with the way he wants to do things,
because it worked at Jackson State, but they never faced
real adversity. Now you face real adversity at Colorado, where
you start out all, you know, setting the world on fire.
Three and oh everyone's talking to and then you completely
and totally discombobulate, and now you've got a story about about, hey,
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you're not managing your program off the football field, in
the locker room at all, and you have a far
more difficult start to your schedule, even if you have
more talent on your team. Recipe for disaster. The most
watched or maybe most discussed team in a non conference
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last year was Colorado. This year it'll be the same.
And what you find in sports is that character matters,
especially when you're losing, when those moments of supreme adversity
hits you. Last year, it was a mess. This story
only doubles down on that. It doesn't mean that that's
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what it is this year, but it does paint quite
a cloudy picture for what's going on. And see you
all right, give me your thoughts at Gottlieb Show on
social media at Gottlieb Show. I got a lot to
get today. Man, this is one of those weekends where
the oh, there wasn't you know, a big NFL game.
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It wasn't any NFL games. Though there's not huge NFL stories,
there's lots of other stuff. How about this, It's like
real life Grand Theft auto video game. There's so many
distractions with fights, guns and money floating around. The environment
is unlike any I've come around in the locker room before.
An unnamed player told Athlon the publication withheld his name
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for fear of retaliation. Apparently, Dion Sanders isn't hard to
find for guys in the portal, seems to be hard
to find when he's actually at CU.
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
What up with you, Dog Gottleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
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Mm m mmm mmmm mmmm mmmmm. You know there's a
lot of different thing is going on in football. We'll
get to him. Thomas de Mittroll, former GM the Atlanta
Falcons will join us at some point in the next
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five minutes. In the meantime, as you heard from Dan Byer,
this is can we just say, evolving story. Remember there
are no trophy is given out at halftime. But this
is this is great. All these things are great. So
in Paris, the French have taken down the Germans, right, like, wait,
that's the opposite of World War Two. The French have
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taken down the Germans, and the Serbs have an eleven
point lead at the half, fifty four to forty three
against the Americans, and Steph Curry has twenty at the half.
If I would have told you that Steph Curry is
twenty at a half, right, you'd be like, all right,
we're good, We're good. But fifty three points and only
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forty three given up is forty two exceeding given up
by the Serbs, and they have a lead. So we
have an evolving story which we'll figure out what happens
here between the Serbs and the Americans. And man, I'm
telling you, this game is going to be just really interesting.
And it's interesting because it's all the stuff, all the
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stuff that we're used to watching in college now we're
watching in the pros. This is essentially the Final four. Right,
you lose, you got to play a third place game,
which is just that's a tough one to play. And
the Serbs have faced the Americans twice previously in the
last month, once in a friendly and which was close
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once in a pool play game. They came two nights
ago from twenty four down to beat the Aussies in overtime,
and yet they've led so far essentially since opening tip.
It was tied early on back and forth, but both
teams have taken nineteen threes. The Serbs have made one
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more they've but they've got four more field goal attempts
because they've out rebounded the Americans twenty to fourteen, and
they've gotten fourteen points in the paint, and they have
scored more fast break points. We have not seen Jason
Tatum in the first half. My expectations are you're probably
not going to see him the second eavy that you
get people on Twitter go, oh, I've got to play
Jason Tatum now, Like okay, But the way in which
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Kevin Durant played in the first game between the two
teams is the way that Steph Curry's playing in game one.
And yet they're down eleven with the Serbians having the
ball to start the half. So Doug Gottlieb show here
on Fox Sports Trader, let's turn our attention to football
with Thomas de Mitchroff joined us. Of course, Thomas, the
former gentle manager of the Atlanta Falcons when they went
to the Super Bowl and Thomas Let's let's start with
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some of the stories of the day in terms of
storylines in the NFL. The Brandon Ayuk thing right where
he wants to be paid like an elite wide receiver.
They've had some conversations, but apparently didn't want to go
to the Patriots to play for them. We'll see if
anything comes from the Steelers this time of year. What's
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it like to try and trade a guy who wants
a new contract and yet most other teams already set.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, it's complicated, Doug. I mean, it's something you're
focused on trying to get it done. You work day
and night trying to figure it out. But it's complicated
on both sides. I mean, you look at San Francisco
right now. You want the kid to play right, You
need your guy on your field. You get fired up
about it, you get excited about it, thinking about maybe
moving you know, moving a player like that for two
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first round picks. That's a big that's a big deal, right,
thinking that you're going to get that. But in the end,
what you really want to do is get your team
operating moving forward, and it is complicated to think about
orchestrating a trade this time of year when you know
everyone is on the hot seat every year, right, and
this is something you don't want to fool around with it.
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If it's just kind of back and forth, they have
a big decision to make on that, as you know,
tag them two more years potentially. Right, There's a lot
going on on this conversation level. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
If it's Pittsburgh and Cleveland, who do you think is
the best fit?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You know, dog, I like, I like Pittsburgh, I like
I like where they are. I think they could use
a receiver like this obviously to go along with the
tight end that I like, and a running back that
I think that is obviously very solid. Where we are
with the quarterback, I'm not really sure, but I think
a guy like this who is a high percentage shot
for them will help their quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
My only question about Pittsburgh is you have George Pickens
over on the other side, a super talent, but a
guy who's been up and down emotionally. And let's not
act like you have the greatest quarterback play in the world. Right,
We'll see if they can resuss state Russell Wilson's career.
If not, you got Justin Fields who struggles in terms
of throwing the football, and so you're not going to
see the volume of throws. All that considered, Does that
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change your perspective on hey, do I bring them into Pittsburgh?
Even if he's the talent that they need, they don't
have the guy to get in the ball and you
have Pickens personality to worry about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, I agree with the Pickens personality. It's a really
valid point. I think I look at it more thinking, Okay,
whether Pittsburgh can utilize them this year or they utilize
them in years to come, because it's going to be
a big time, long term contract. You and I both
know if that quarterback situation is sketchy out the gate,
they're going to be looking strong and they're going to
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be looking to acquire a big time quarterback in the
relatively near future ie very soon, right. So I just
think he's a good guy to grow with in that situation.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Rader. That's the
voice of Thomas Dimitrov. Of course, Thomas is the CEO
of Sumer Sports, a Sports Analytics company. All right, let's
let's discuss the reported rift between Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni.
You're the general manager, right, You're Howie. Okay, all this stuff,
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which I'm sure you knew it has become public. How
do you handle it?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well? I think in that situation, what you do? You
spend obviously a lot of time with your head coach,
who is your partner in it. All right, you talk
probably five to ten times a day normally, and you really,
you know, you break down to the you know, you
break it down to the to get into the bottom
of it. I mean, obviously there's a lot of discussion
out there right now between you know, Howie. I you know,
when you start looking at the rumors about potentially how
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he was interested in, you know, another head coaching situation
last year, you continue to see Bill Belichick's name come up, right.
I'm not speaking for how We of course on that.
I'm just thinking there's a lot going on there with
your head coach about what to do. And then you
have a quarterback who is a guy who's going to
be there for years to come. You better make sure
you're working on that relationship with booth, your head coach
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and your quarterback all the time. You kind of have
to be a little bit of Switzerland in that. That's
my way. I think you have to be very direct
with your head coach to say, look, we have to
be very mindful of our guy who's going to take
us to the promised Land. Jalen hurts. It doesn't mean
you have to bend over backwards, but you have to
be very mindful and you have to clean up. You
know that if you have a coach in a system,
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at an organization that is a hard ass coach, you
have to make sure that you keep that pretty darn
clean with your quarterback because that can go awry quickly
and all of a sudden that can affect everyone throughout
the organizations, other players, right, So that is something that
is as a general manager, you better know exactly how
you want to approach him. Look how he is great
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at usually doing that. So I have all the faith
in the world that he'll take care of that one
way or another.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tray. That's the
voice of Thomas to mitchro of course, famously the former
general manager of the Atlanta Falcons, when I went to
the Super Bowl. Let's go back to the Steelers. Okay,
I asked you really more about Ayuk, but what are
your thoughts on that quarterback situation as a whole?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Back to the Steelers? You said, right, yeah, Steelers, yep, yep, yeah.
I mean you want to ask about Russell Wilson. Is
that what you want to want to ask to directly
or both of them? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, like, like, listen, here's my here's my here's
again the layman, non football guy asking the general manager
loaded up with analytics. Okay, he wasn't the same after
the thumb injury in Seattle, Okay, and so they moved on.
Then he's had two coaches that haven't been able to
make it work in Denver, so this would be basically
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like a fourth coach, a fourth style in four years.
Do you believe he still has it in him?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I'm concerned. I mean, look, we all saw what he
did back in the day in Seattle, and he did
amazing things and great, but there's a reason, as you mentioned,
they move on. They make a big time decision there
to move on. Of course, of course, George Peyton makes
a big time decision to bring him to Denver to Denver.
To your point, things continue to fall. You look at
him and you watch him, and it looks like, you know,
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like any natural person. I don't care how great they were.
You know they're there. They're losing stride, right, They're losing
stride and they have to continue to adjust and they
have to continue to make the most of what their
strength still are. He still obviously has certain strengths about him,
But is he same caliber? Of course he's not, respectfully
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to the person and what he's accomplished. But you're talking
about winning games, and you're talking about moving forward and
be this is a very important season for the Pittsburgh Steelers, right,
I mean with you know, Arthur Smith comes in there,
and Arthur Smith has to make a strong decision on
who is the best quarterback to lead and take.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The helm on this.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean, I personally am am a fan of justin
Fields as far as an athlete, as far as a
guy that can come into a new situation and win games.
So is that the decision you make? But how do
you make that decision?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Doug?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you make it out the gate or do you
determine that off of some preseason games? That's a complicated
decision for an organization in my mind with right right now,
So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I mean, like, what what do you do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean, I personally think you have to be very
smart about you know, really intentional about your reps with
both of the both of the you know, slotted first
and second with Russell Wilson and Justin Field. And I
think you have to be very intentional with how many
reps not only in practice but also on you know,
during game time in the preseason. I mean, think about that.
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Russell goes into the season and things go right, how
long do you wait before you pull the trigger and
bring in Justin Fields. That's not an easy decision, but
it is a decision that is very very uh. It's
incumbent upon you know, the head coach of course, uh
and and a general manager to make a strong decision
on that and make it fairly expeditiously, I believe.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Okay, help me out with with Caleb Williams, there have
been some critical of he had one ask of his
veteran teammates to clean up after themselves. I don't know
if you've seen the Hard Knocks episode, how does that
if you're you're the general manager. How do you how
do you feel about that messaging?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, I think I think anytime you have a quarterback
that comes in and you're talking about you know, Caleb,
you're talking about someone like that who has a you know,
he has to get out the gate. Back to getting
out of the gate, he has to get out the
gate with a strong presence. He has to be respected.
I that's a tough one because that's you don't want
to be a nitpick leader. You know, you want to
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be a guy that's leading on the field. You want
to be a guy that people believe in and they
believe in quickly, right. And I think when you start
talking about things like that, Uh, that's tough for some
of the veterans to fall into line with.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Personally, I believe Thomas de mitchrof And by the way,
is his company is awesome. You got to check them out.
Uh it's called Suomer Sports. They have a great podcast.
The CEO Soomer Sports a sports analytics company and of
course longtime jen manager in the National Football League. Thomas,
thanks for joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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I'm sorry. Okay. So what's happened basketball wise is the
United States has gone to switching everything and to this point,
Jokic hasn't made them pay enough inside and so Serbia's
offense has gone cold. Their defense has been okay. Steph
Curry's hit a bunch of shots and the Americans are
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starting to get some rebounds. Joe Embie did travel with
a chance to cut that thing to one. One possession game.
Serbians have the ball and they're really reliant on shooting
threes with the American handle their face. They're not getting
open looks anymore because the Americans are switching everything, although
the Americans keep turning the basketball over.
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We got to that a little bit to start. We'll
throw some of that in the pod. We'll talk about
a little bit later this on this hour. For a
non football Monday. And when I say non football, I
mean there were no football games on Saturday or Sunday.
There is a lot to talk about. Rick Bucker's going
to join us at about one. I'm gonna play for
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you in fifteen minutes what Draymond Green had to say
about Steve Kurr's coaching staff and then let Rick tell
you what's really going on inside that that coaching staff.
We got the press to get to Monsa do a
awesome job of that. Hey, I want to do this
though every Monday. Okay, we have things that kind of
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like build up in frustration or things that we love
things that we we we just want to be memorable
for the weekend, and things that we hated this weekend.
Every Monday in this show we do a little love
and hate.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
God? I love you? And what did you hate? These
Claire haters? So it's what you love from the weekend,
what you hate from the weekend. I will tell you
that I loved Noah Ale come back and winning the
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hundred meter dash. I just did because there's a guy
who called his shot. He talked to talk. He ended
up walking the walk and he won by the slightest
sliver of a head nod that you can poss to
win by. But the fact is he was I guess
in last out of the blocks. But what do you said?
(30:21):
What is the old adage is not how you started,
it's how you finish. And man, that was an incredible race.
Just the difference, it's the I love Seinfeld And if
you love Seinfeld, you remember he had that stand up
act where he talked about the Olympics and he'd leaned
his head forward. He's like, greatest guy ever, lean his
head back. He's like never heard of him, right, greatest
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guy ever? Never heard of him? And that's what that was.
From the first place to the last place. They was
all within a split second. A terrible call of the
one hundred meter dash, but an unbelievable race. By the way,
here's the call on NBC Sports.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I said, Olympic gold medal waiting for somebody.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Who wants at the most. Now Thompson starts to wind up.
Charley's going with him.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
This is close, Joy, I guess gonna do it, just
showing Thompson is a gold medalist.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Guess what.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He just ran nine point seven eight. It was a
lead at the take by Thompson. Visually, we think you
got it. They're working on the photo. It's these I
don't have to go to a photo finish to decide it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, I mean, there's so many parts that are bad
about that call. It's a ten second race, and you
wasted three seconds saying it there's a gold medal on
the line, instead of describing any of the action. All right,
granted on TV you don't have to tell much of
the what, but didn't call any of the action and
then called the wrong sprinter winning it when it was
clearly a photo finish. Still love the race, Absolutely loved it.
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Do okay, let me go to you, Jason Stewart, somethme
you love.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
On the weekend, I went on a Sunday hike with
my super hot girlfriend Christina, and we put in a
good five miles, got the heart rate move. And as
I'm as I'm driving home from our local hike, I
tuned into Fox Sports Radio because when I'm not doing things,
I'm listening to Fox Sports Radio twenty four to seven,
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and our very own Damn Buyer, who's on vacation right now,
was on with Carrie Rhodes and the subject of Michigan's
potential penalty for the Connor Stallions thing came up, and
this was Dan Byer. Former Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh
also accused of committing a violation for denying an NCAA
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request to view messages and records from his person.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
He missed three games, so that's good enough. Yeah, that's
good enough. That's oh, I'll let you finish your update.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And then I went no, no, no, I mean when
I mean we all have things on our cell phone,
on our cell phones, I mean it's probably catastictures.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm sure you've got that fall. That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I have my own crew.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I know I'm completely biased as an Ohio State fan
and everybody else in college football heats Ohio State. But
the way that Michigan got such a free pass for
this garbage.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean it is amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
People are hey, oh look Jim Harbaugh's tattoo. Ah yeah,
Michigan National champs.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
They had the they had the cheap codes, they had
all of it. They could have.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
The Big Ten wimped out by giving them a three
game ban. They should have kicked him out of the entire.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
But the worst part about it is nobody cares. Like
if this was Alabama or if this was Ohio State,
people would care so much. But for some reason, no
one gives a flip and like, oh, Michigan, good job,
go Blue.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
What a joke.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I've spoken to the mass media class at Calls Day
Fullarton a handful of times, and inevitably I'm gonna I
answer a question about, you know, what does it take
or to be good in the business whatever, And I
say this one thing that a producer or trainer or
teacher can't teach or coach is passion and if you
don't have passion for many things in this business, you
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won't be good at your job. Every day you should
come at us with a passionate take on something, and
Dan Byer woke up yesterday with a passionate take on
Michigan football, and I very much respect that.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Monci.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I'm kind of with you, Doug about the Olympics and
like that everyone's just watching, because I'm definitely just kind
of watching whatever is on in the Olympics. As we
talked about in the last hour, I'm one of those people.
And I think this maybe maybe happened Friday or like Thursday,
but watching Simone Biles back doing all the things gymnastics,
especially her floor routine, it just was so cool because
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visually you knew she was the better one.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
It is like it didn't matter what the score was.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
It was like her artistic, her athletic level on that
floor was above everyone else.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
And this is no disrespect to Soon Lee. I think
is Sony Lee is her name, and the Brazilian girl.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
It's just Simone Biles at twenty seven years old is
quite incredible to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Watch and it doesn't seem like she she's stopping. But
it's crazy because she's twenty seven.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
So it's just watching her has been really cool, has
been really cool, and she won the vault also, like
she's just she It's just been really awesome to watch
her come back.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Clem, he's got nothing to say about it.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
This is on a Friday. You're welcome. This is from
Friday track and Field Star American track and Field Star
Grant Fisher. He won the bronze medal at the ten
thousand meter dash and it's hardly a dash. Ten thousand
meters is twenty five times around. That's a jog, but
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they are running, they're sprinting. This is a sprinting a
dash twenty five times around the track. And he's the
first American to meddle in this race in fifty six years.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I believe.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
I saw he almost took the silver but was beaten
out at the last second. Like look, we talked about
the Noah Lyles race being closed. He was really close
to getting that silver medal, but took bronze. Still great accomplishment.
Got eat my musica restarted there. Very cool because usually
you know, people are losing to people from you know, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda,
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these guys who are incredible fast long distance runners, but
very cool to see an American take a medal in
the ten thousand meters dash for the first time in
over half century. That's my love of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
M okay, any other loves you want to throw it down?
I mean I do love my guy Jackson. Holiday is
mash and now that he's back in the bigs, you
guys notice that.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, that's good for him. Hit a grand slam, right, well.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Hit a grand slam, but then he's got that was
in his first home run. But since then he had
two hits yesterday and the Orioles big win. They're playing
great baseball, arguably best team in the sport. Right now,
let's get the things we hated from the weekend. Thanks,
we hearded Jason Stewart, you are a hater number one?
What do you got?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I think it was last week we got into this
conversation about the Olympic boxer and her name is Aman Khalif. Yeah,
we had in this conversation about Aman Khalif last week
after she had one that fight where the other fighter
quit and I had two takeaways. First, you asked me,
(38:09):
what's the fix? And I said, it's pretty simple to me.
If you have a Y chromosome, you can't fight women.
It seems like a pretty good fix to me, and
I stand by that. Also, I said, you know what's
cool about this is that there's going to be a
billion people that watch this and react to it, and
(38:31):
maybe something will be done about it. Because it's largely
kind of a right wing topic in the United States.
Now it'll become a worldwide discussion and maybe things will
be done about it. Well, I was halfway right, and
this is what I hated about the weekend is the
discourse has become exactly what every single political topic becomes.
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Everyone goes to their corners and talks crap about the
other people. Okay, so that if you think that women
should not be fighting against someone with a Y chromosome,
then you are a racist, you're a genderist, you're a sexist.
And then also if you think everybody should be able
to do anything against everybody regardless of your gender specification,
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then you are farling leftist and you have no place
in our society. So again, I thought that there was
going to be a productive discourse due to all the
eyes to this, But it's just become a more magnifiedization, politicization, politicization,
polarization of politics. So that's been frustrating.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, I will start by pointing out, if you didn't
hear me Friday, I'll read it right, apologize for mislabeling
her as or maybe it's Thursday, mislabeling her as transgender.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I mean, the issue run into with her is the
fact that while she has y chromosome, she quite obviously
was born a woman in terms of the body parts.
It's a hard one and if that's your hard and
fast rule, I find no fault with it. There are
others that have been allowed to compete with the same
kind of chromosomal issues whatever. But yeah, that's the problem.
(40:23):
The problem is there's never any ability to be discuss
so many people on the right who have come out
critical of men fighting women haven't actually admitted that she
is not a man with the exception of the chromosomes,
which again it's a hard one. They're still mislabeling her
as somebody who's transgender, which she is not. Sam things
(40:45):
you hate it for.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
The weekend, I will go with this Dion Sanders and
Colorado article, Let's kind of go over before this Athlon
Sports article came out detailing this toxic, unbuttoned locker room
at Colorado. Let's just kind of go over some of
(41:06):
the stuff that annoyed me about Deon Sanders' program at Colorado.
The Louis luggage comment rubbed me the wrong way right
off the start, bringing his Louis luggage with him. He's
bringing in his own guys. I get it, but it
just came off cocky and rubbed me the wrong way.
And how he treated the players left over on the
roster from the previous season at Colorado. I didn't like
(41:28):
that either. I heard he was kind of cold and
hard to communicate with and kind of on his phone
all the time. We're talking about coach Prime here. So
this was from what some players have said after they've
left the program. They ain't hard to find stuff, the
look at me sort of mentality, and now it's personal
thing that they'd always do before a game. We know
when they actually were winning games the beginning of the season.
Oh it's personal. Now every little slight it's personal. And
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they actually used that as like a chant to break
a huddle. Now it's personal. The obligatory attendance of a
concert that Shador Sanders was performing in. Coach Prime said,
the entire team has to go and watch this concert,
which I think it was like a Little Wayne concert
who was headlining. So I'd go to that anyway. But
to force your entire team to go just to support
(42:10):
or quote unquote support Shaduur Sanders opening up for Little
Wayne is kind of lame to me. How about the
flashing of the watch Shadeur Sanders flashing his watch in
a meaningless game against like Arizona State, a team you
should have beat anyway. And yeah, they started out the
season I think three and zero, they finished four eight,
four and eight. That means they finished down the stretch
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one in eight. All of that chest puffing would be
fine if you were eight and four, but she were terrible,
especially in the last half of the season. Now this
article comes out describing this toxic locker room, guns, fights, money,
there's just too much money floating around. I'm gonna say it,
Coach Prime Son's kind of come off pretty braddy. From
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what I've heard and wrote, what I've read in these articles,
it's a toxic clock room. It's a far cry from
like kind of the program that I'm used to watching
at Iowa, which lately especially has been very They've been
very cohesive, unit, very all about the team. I'm not used.
I don't really root for that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Rote. Well, here's the thing. Let me let me, let
me help you out. Let me help you out. Okay,
the Iowa thing is seen its classically uncool, but it's
really really successful. It gets a job zero with zero offense.
Last year none Yeah, inane science experiment. Right, it was done.
They still won ten games. Yeah, within a league quarterback
or some who were totally league quarterback, they won four games, right,
(43:31):
And so this is one. This is one of those. Okay,
this is one of those where cool does not mean
successful and uncool does not mean unsuccessful. It reminds me
of the Patriots versus other teams that were cool. So
I agree with you. Let's get to manci Monsey something
you hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, I wish I really have myself to blame.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
I keep going back to this bar that has like
these specialty drinks, but every time I go, I get
upset because I think the service is really mid And
this is I'm not asking for much.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
But we went back to the bar.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
It's called catch her in the rye and then they
have really delicious drinks. That's why I keep going back.
But so Sean and I sit at the bar and
there's it's not that busy, and the guy asks for
a drink and I do get a mixed drink, one
of their specialties. Sean just gets a beer and he's like, great,
I'll be right back with that, and then he starts
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pulling apart like basil or like something. We're right in
front of him, and I'm like, listen, I understand that
my drink is a cocktail. How did you not turn
around pour that beer? Give it to Sean and then
be like and I'll get your drink in a second.
Little things like drive me nuts?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
But why did I go back?
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Because I like the damn drink. It's a coconut margarita
and I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
But then I'm mad. I'm mad before I get the
freaking margarita. And then I enjoyed the margarita, and then
you know we're back next week. I'm like, I just
I know this is gonna be the service. So it's
just like, ah, how did you not turn around pour
the beer? Put it down? And then but right in
front of us started like, you know, tearing apart what.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Leaves for a mohido or something for something, and I
was I wanted to be like, we are right in
front of you.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
And it was funny because he was like, oh, you
guys can go sit or just wait here. I'll have
your drinks. We didn't move.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
We're like, yeah, we're you just stay here. And I
really thought he was gonna turn around pour the beer.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Nope, Nope, that did not happen. Another bartender came and
then he was like, hey, can you get me a
beer in this? And I just was like, are we kidding?
But why do I go back? Because I like the
damn drink.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I want a coconut margarita. Run.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Coconut margarita sounds amazing.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It's just so refreshing, and they're hard to come by.
You know, you get mango straw mary, hardly ever could
you find a coconut one. And this one is so
refreshing and so delicious to put a little bit of
a muddled like cucumber in it and.
Speaker 9 (45:47):
Flavors don't clash coconut and like that.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's so refre coconut, coconut lime works together. I just
didn't know coconut lime and uh tequila works together. Yeah,
castilla that I'm most interested by.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's and they're hard to come by something.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, I mean I'm off the clock here in that
sounds delicious. It is forty two minutes. I'm off the clock,
all right, I'll get I'll give you. I give you
something I hated and I'm intrigued by your your guys
view of it. I hate three on three basketball. I
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mean it's not basketball.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's it's not like three on three is the thing
you do maybe for teaching some whatever. But it's like
a fake basketball, and I do do people know that
at the three on three in FEBA. There's all these
different like limitations where you really can't be a professional
basketball player definitely NBA player and play in the FOBA
three on three because you have to qualify and you
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have to go through tournaments during the year, and so
it kind of eliminates any players. But they play with
a smaller ball than is normally played with. It weighs
the but it's a smaller ball. It's a very slightly
smaller basketball. So they play a sport court, which is
like something you can have in your driveway when you're
a kid. You know, if your parents are fairly wealthy,
(47:13):
you get a sport court, which I never understood. That
no disrepect to people who sell sport courts, but just
like are we against playing on cement anyway? They play
a small COVID of fake court. They don't play with
the real size basketball. They don't really allow for real basketball.
And oh yeah, by the way, you can't allow real
basketball players who played during a professional season to play
in it. And yet you receive the same gold medal
(47:37):
as the men's basketball team, Like the gold medals is
the gold medals? I want to go bet on what.
I just hate it.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's me venting.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And that's love and hate for the weekend.
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A lot to get a lot to get to. Jason
Stewart is really really into talking about this poll Walter.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And the.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
One i'd say big thing that kept him from winning
a medal. Yeah, that's that's really what it is, right.
There are so many different puns we can have for
the pole vaulter that everyone has I think on some
level discussed his performance and his performance inhibitor if you will. Yeah,
that's good stuff. We'll get to that during the show.
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We have Rick Buker who said, to join us. We'll
talk some Team USA hoop or hoops, depending upon how
you like to discuss it. We've got a whole lot
of football talk as well. A whole lot of football
talk as well. By the way, we got to welcome
in a new feel that we have in Raleigh, North Carolina.
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And I was asked yesterday, that's somebody yesterday, like, who
was he said, in a favorite city of the United States.
I wouldn't say Raleigh's my favorite city, but Raleigh is
a city where you live there, you're like, you go
there and a visit and or you go to work
there and you're like, man, I get it. I know
why so many people like it. But Michael Berger is
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our market manager and Trevor Marini is the program director.
That's on one oh six ' one FM HD two
in Raleigh, North Carolina. Thanks so much for having us
as part of your lineup, and we sure love it
and I think you'll love it as well. Okay, so
there's a new story out. There's a new story out
(02:31):
about about Colorado football. Okay, Colorado football. And in this
report about Colorado football. It says that Dion Sanders, and
again you're quoting former players who said runs a program
that includes fights, guns and money. And I know there's
(02:51):
a lot of us that read that and go, hey,
welcome to big time college football, right, fights, guns and money.
And there's also lots of talk, lots of talk about bullying, bullying,
and some of it even being blamed on his son, Shiloh,
who's course of a defensive back with other players. It's
(03:14):
not a pretty picture, but what happens is and look,
I'm learning a lot of this as I go as
new head coach as well. When you get America's attention
and we can agree or disagree on the state of
Colorado's program or what their season was like last year
or whatever, they got a lot of attention, and attention
(03:37):
does have a substantial value, I would say, up until
we really really got to where we were concerned with
who was going to win a championship, who was going
to play in the SEC championship, or the fact that
the SEC might only have one team in the playoff
or the Pac twelve and who those Pac twelve teams
would be. And Washington's emergence, Organs emergence, UCLA's falling USC
(04:02):
falling apart last year, Michigan, the Connor Stallion story, which
by the way, got reinvigorated over the weekend and into today.
Like until we got to that place, all we talked
about in college football last year was Colorado, so we
talked about them a ton. But with that attention can
come negativity, and this is part of it now, disgruntled
(04:25):
former players. They're not always going to say everything and
always tell bad tales. But if we're reasonable, we know, hey,
you run dudes off, and you're constantly having a cycle
of guys there for a minute, guys not there for
a minute. They may tell the exact same story as
somebody else, but you can paint it in a more
(04:47):
negative light. So I'm giving Dion sort of the benefit
of the doubt. But the problem is, and look, I
live in this world. I know what's available out there.
I know what's available out there, and I'll give you
an example of a decision that I made in my
(05:09):
own program. Well, I got a job. I got the
job late, right, I got a job in May. Most
jobs are mid to late March to early April. So
while there are still players out there. For example, right now,
I have one scholarship available. My school starts September fourth,
(05:30):
later than others, so we can hold on to that scholarship,
and there may be somebody who gets out of theirs,
becomes available, whatever, just to make sure I have one scholarship.
But with that one scholarship, I know that the most
talented players that are in the portal currently several of them.
(05:52):
I'll get a note, Hey, he does, there is there.
There is some baggage there. What's the baggage? And there
was a point guard who at one point in time
I was recruiting and he had a felony, and that
felony was for vehicular manslaughter. It was several years ago.
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He'd got behind a wheel He had at some point
in time. It wasn't drinking, it wasn't illicit drugs. I
believe it was marijuana. He had marijuana system. And he
got in a car accident and killed a woman. And
he was going nineteen to thirty five, and everything about
the rest of his record, everything about the rest of
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his record was completely clean. We talked to his high
school coach, his high school academic advisor. I talked to
his AAU coach. I talked to people who were on
his AAU team. I talked to the coaches who originally
signed him in college, and I talked to both of
the junior colleges that he went to. I talked to
players who talked to coach. I talked to the player
(07:01):
himself several times over, and I had very very little
doubt that this young man was a good dude who
just made a terrible mistake, terrible mistake. And I'm somebody
who got a second chance for nonviolent crime, but still
(07:23):
not proud of it in any way. So I love
being a guy who you get to know people, you
get to meet people, and you want to give them
a second chance. But man, I just I wasn't ready
to be that guy with this particular player, with this
particular crime. And thankfully for him, he ended up finding
(07:46):
a really good place and I hope he does well.
The point of it is that when you're I don't
want to say, fly him by the seat of your pants,
and you're out in the portal and you're just looking
at and you're just going to get players, you will
miss some key elements to it, which is character does matter.
(08:10):
And believe me, for example, the player I recruited, I
actually think he has good character. I do. One of
my issues with taking him wasn't just that wasn't just
the felony and having to explain that to people, but
it was also that I would go through all the
hoops of the felony and explain to people and get him.
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And he's the kind of player, he's higher than our level.
Does he even want to be here? And once he
is here and he's brought into here, he's gone. I'd
much rather have a guy has no baggage committed to
staying here multiple years, because I have some guys that
are going to be here for a year. So I'm
not excusing the stories in any way out of Colorado
(08:54):
and what happens with guys like that. This explains why
they went south last year, Why when things got tough
and they face some adversity, why they lost so many
close games and it got worse and worse and worse
and worse. Because the guys that have the baggage, the
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guys that are the pains in the asses, the guys
that want to fight, the guys that want to smoke,
the guys that lack the personal self discipline those players.
When things go bad, they continue to bring you down.
They are not people that fight through that adversity. They're
just not. I'm not telling you anything that every coach
(09:38):
doesn't know. And when you look in that portal, and
I think Dion came in with the mindset of, Hey,
I'm going to be somebody who I don't have to
spend money because people want to come play for me.
Because if you come play for me, I know everybody
in the NFL, and everybody in the NFL is gonna
take my word for it and we'll make you in
an NFL star. That sounds great, But at the end
(09:59):
of the day today they became somebody who you lived
too much in the portal. You're getting somebody else's problem,
and you're getting a player who only comes there for
the attention and for the money, and you're not taking
a guy of high character. And this is what happens.
All of these things to those of us who live
a life of a college coach, completely understand. And all
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of it is based upon who you recruit, how you recruit,
and what you value in recruiting. In basketball, they say
you can have two three is a gang, you know, that,
and that comes down to everything. Guys that academically don't
cut it. You can have one, you can have two
threes a gang, guys that don't get along, you know
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with everybody at the university. One two three is a gag.
And I and look when you when you call your
shot the way Dion called his shot, he knows you
need dudes. You got to take some chances. You take
too many chances of what's happened. And then one of
the main culprits of it is one of his sons,
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his lesser talented of his two player sons in Shiloh,
who looks like he could be a really good player,
but probably doesn't purport himself for handle himself that well.
And when you give when you give a guy who's
a coach's son that much power and that much leadership,
if he's not really really good at it and really
doesn't know how to wield it, it becomes a mess.
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None of it matters by the way of Colorado wins.
And what I think is an inferior league to last
year's PAC twelve. They should have more talent, they should
have a better chance to win, but they're scheduling the
non conference is way more difficult because now it's Nebraska
year two on the road Colorado State, you know, which
was a great game last year on the road, and
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so they may be better, but they may lose both
those games this year coming into a league and the
Big twelve last year was okay, wasn't as good as
the PAC twelve and they got mollywomped in the Pac twelve.
But when you lose a couple of games in the
non conference and you have those guys bringing you down,
you're bound to turn the wrong way. I don't know.
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I'm not the least bit surprised by any of these stories,
not the least bit surprised. Because when you give money
and you sprinkle in talent and personalities to a place
that hasn't had it and just wants to do whatever
it takes. I've told you before, Colorado will lose deon
senators the second they say no. Dion does not want
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to hear the word no. He thinks he has the
cure for cancer with the way he wants to do things,
because it worked at Jackson State, but they never faced
real adversity. Now you face real adversity at Colorado, where
you start out all, you know, setting the world on fire.
Three and oh everyone's talking to and then you completely
and totally discombobulate, and now you've got a story about about, hey,
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you're not managing your program off the football field, in
the locker room at all, and you have a far
more difficult start to your schedule, even if you have
more talent on your team. Recipe for disaster. The most
watched or maybe most discussed team in a non conference
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last year was Colorado. This year it'll be the same.
And what you find in sports is that character matters,
especially when you're losing, when those moments of supreme adversity
hits you. Last year, it was a mess. This story
only doubles down on that. It doesn't mean that that's
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what it is this year, but it does paint quite
a cloudy picture for what's going on. And see you
all right, give me your thoughts at Gottlieb Show on
social media at Gottlieb Show. I got a lot to
get today. Man, this is one of those weekends where
the oh, there wasn't you know, a big NFL game.
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It wasn't any NFL games. Though there's not huge NFL stories,
there's lots of other stuff. How about this, It's like
real life Grand Theft auto video game. There's so many
distractions with fights, guns and money floating around. The environment
is unlike any I've come around in the locker room before.
An unnamed player told Athlon the publication withheld his name
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for fear of retaliation. Apparently, Dion Sanders isn't hard to
find for guys in the portal, seems to be hard
to find when he's actually at CU.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
This is the best of the Don dot Leap Show
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
What up with you, Dog Gottleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio.
I hope you're doing great. The Doug Gottleeb Show broadcast
live every single day from sunny southern California. Welcome in.
Mm m mmm mmmm mmmm mmmmm. You know there's a
lot of different thing is going on in football. We'll
get to him. Thomas de Mittroll, former GM the Atlanta
Falcons will join us at some point in the next
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five minutes. In the meantime, as you heard from Dan Byer,
this is can we just say, evolving story. Remember there
are no trophy is given out at halftime. But this
is this is great. All these things are great. So
in Paris, the French have taken down the Germans, right, like, wait,
that's the opposite of World War Two. The French have
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taken down the Germans, and the Serbs have an eleven
point lead at the half, fifty four to forty three
against the Americans, and Steph Curry has twenty at the half.
If I would have told you that Steph Curry is
twenty at a half, right, you'd be like, all right,
we're good, We're good. But fifty three points and only
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forty three given up is forty two exceeding given up
by the Serbs, and they have a lead. So we
have an evolving story which we'll figure out what happens
here between the Serbs and the Americans. And man, I'm
telling you, this game is going to be just really interesting.
And it's interesting because it's all the stuff, all the
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stuff that we're used to watching in college now we're
watching in the pros. This is essentially the Final four. Right,
you lose, you got to play a third place game,
which is just that's a tough one to play. And
the Serbs have faced the Americans twice previously in the
last month, once in a friendly and which was close
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once in a pool play game. They came two nights
ago from twenty four down to beat the Aussies in overtime,
and yet they've led so far essentially since opening tip.
It was tied early on back and forth, but both
teams have taken nineteen threes. The Serbs have made one
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more they've but they've got four more field goal attempts
because they've out rebounded the Americans twenty to fourteen, and
they've gotten fourteen points in the paint, and they have
scored more fast break points. We have not seen Jason
Tatum in the first half. My expectations are you're probably
not going to see him the second eavy that you
get people on Twitter go, oh, I've got to play
Jason Tatum now, Like okay, But the way in which
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Kevin Durant played in the first game between the two
teams is the way that Steph Curry's playing in game one.
And yet they're down eleven with the Serbians having the
ball to start the half. So Doug Gottlieb show here
on Fox Sports Trader, let's turn our attention to football
with Thomas de Mitchroff joined us. Of course, Thomas, the
former gentle manager of the Atlanta Falcons when they went
to the Super Bowl and Thomas Let's let's start with
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some of the stories of the day in terms of
storylines in the NFL. The Brandon Ayuk thing right where
he wants to be paid like an elite wide receiver.
They've had some conversations, but apparently didn't want to go
to the Patriots to play for them. We'll see if
anything comes from the Steelers this time of year. What's
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it like to try and trade a guy who wants
a new contract and yet most other teams already set.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I mean, it's complicated, Doug. I mean, it's something you're
focused on trying to get it done. You work day
and night trying to figure it out. But it's complicated
on both sides. I mean, you look at San Francisco
right now. You want the kid to play right, You
need your guy on your field. You get fired up
about it, you get excited about it, thinking about maybe
moving you know, moving a player like that for two
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first round picks. That's a big that's a big deal, right,
thinking that you're going to get that. But in the end,
what you really want to do is get your team
operating moving forward, and it is complicated to think about
orchestrating a trade this time of year when you know
everyone is on the hot seat every year, right, and
this is something you don't want to fool around with it.
(18:55):
If it's just kind of back and forth, they have
a big decision to make on that, as you know,
tag them two more years potentially. Right, There's a lot
going on on this conversation level. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
If it's Pittsburgh and Cleveland, who do you think is
the best fit?
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You know, dog, I like, I like Pittsburgh, I like
I like where they are. I think they could use
a receiver like this obviously to go along with the
tight end that I like, and a running back that
I think that is obviously very solid. Where we are
with the quarterback, I'm not really sure, but I think
a guy like this who is a high percentage shot
for them will help their quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
My only question about Pittsburgh is you have George Pickens
over on the other side, a super talent, but a
guy who's been up and down emotionally. And let's not
act like you have the greatest quarterback play in the world. Right,
We'll see if they can resuss state Russell Wilson's career.
If not, you got Justin Fields who struggles in terms
of throwing the football, and so you're not going to
see the volume of throws. All that considered, Does that
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change your perspective on hey, do I bring them into Pittsburgh?
Even if he's the talent that they need, they don't
have the guy to get in the ball and you
have Pickens personality to worry about.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, I agree with the Pickens personality. It's a really
valid point. I think I look at it more thinking, Okay,
whether Pittsburgh can utilize them this year or they utilize
them in years to come, because it's going to be
a big time, long term contract. You and I both
know if that quarterback situation is sketchy out the gate,
they're going to be looking strong and they're going to
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be looking to acquire a big time quarterback in the
relatively near future ie very soon, right. So I just
think he's a good guy to grow with in that situation.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Rader. That's the
voice of Thomas Dimitrov. Of course, Thomas is the CEO
of Sumer Sports, a Sports Analytics company. All right, let's
let's discuss the reported rift between Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni.
You're the general manager, right, You're Howie. Okay, all this stuff,
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which I'm sure you knew it has become public. How
do you handle it?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Well? I think in that situation, what you do? You
spend obviously a lot of time with your head coach,
who is your partner in it. All right, you talk
probably five to ten times a day normally, and you really,
you know, you break down to the you know, you
break it down to the to get into the bottom
of it. I mean, obviously there's a lot of discussion
out there right now between you know, Howie. I you know,
when you start looking at the rumors about potentially how
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he was interested in, you know, another head coaching situation
last year, you continue to see Bill Belichick's name come up, right.
I'm not speaking for how We of course on that.
I'm just thinking there's a lot going on there with
your head coach about what to do. And then you
have a quarterback who is a guy who's going to
be there for years to come. You better make sure
you're working on that relationship with booth, your head coach
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and your quarterback all the time. You kind of have
to be a little bit of Switzerland in that. That's
my way. I think you have to be very direct
with your head coach to say, look, we have to
be very mindful of our guy who's going to take
us to the promised Land. Jalen hurts. It doesn't mean
you have to bend over backwards, but you have to
be very mindful and you have to clean up. You
know that if you have a coach in a system,
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at an organization that is a hard ass coach, you
have to make sure that you keep that pretty darn
clean with your quarterback because that can go awry quickly
and all of a sudden that can affect everyone throughout
the organizations, other players, right, So that is something that
is as a general manager, you better know exactly how
you want to approach him. Look how he is great
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at usually doing that. So I have all the faith
in the world that he'll take care of that one
way or another.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Tray. That's the
voice of Thomas to mitchro of course, famously the former
general manager of the Atlanta Falcons, when I went to
the Super Bowl. Let's go back to the Steelers. Okay,
I asked you really more about Ayuk, but what are
your thoughts on that quarterback situation as a whole?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Back to the Steelers? You said, right, yeah, Steelers, yep, yep, yeah.
I mean you want to ask about Russell Wilson. Is
that what you want to want to ask to directly
or both of them? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I mean, like, like, listen, here's my here's my here's
again the layman, non football guy asking the general manager
loaded up with analytics. Okay, he wasn't the same after
the thumb injury in Seattle, Okay, and so they moved on.
Then he's had two coaches that haven't been able to
make it work in Denver, so this would be basically
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like a fourth coach, a fourth style in four years.
Do you believe he still has it in him?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I'm concerned. I mean, look, we all saw what he
did back in the day in Seattle, and he did
amazing things and great, but there's a reason, as you mentioned,
they move on. They make a big time decision there
to move on. Of course, of course, George Peyton makes
a big time decision to bring him to Denver to Denver.
To your point, things continue to fall. You look at
him and you watch him, and it looks like, you know,
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like any natural person. I don't care how great they were.
You know they're there. They're losing stride, right, They're losing
stride and they have to continue to adjust and they
have to continue to make the most of what their
strength still are. He still obviously has certain strengths about him,
But is he same caliber? Of course he's not, respectfully
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to the person and what he's accomplished. But you're talking
about winning games, and you're talking about moving forward and
be this is a very important season for the Pittsburgh Steelers, right,
I mean with you know, Arthur Smith comes in there,
and Arthur Smith has to make a strong decision on
who is the best quarterback to lead and take.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
The helm on this.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I mean, I personally am am a fan of justin
Fields as far as an athlete, as far as a
guy that can come into a new situation and win games.
So is that the decision you make? But how do
you make that decision?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Doug?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you make it out the gate or do you
determine that off of some preseason games? That's a complicated
decision for an organization in my mind with right right now,
So what do you do?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I mean, like, what what do you do?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean, I personally think you have to be very
smart about you know, really intentional about your reps with
both of the both of the you know, slotted first
and second with Russell Wilson and Justin Field. And I
think you have to be very intentional with how many
reps not only in practice but also on you know,
during game time in the preseason. I mean, think about that.
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Russell goes into the season and things go right, how
long do you wait before you pull the trigger and
bring in Justin Fields. That's not an easy decision, but
it is a decision that is very very uh. It's
incumbent upon you know, the head coach of course, uh
and and a general manager to make a strong decision
on that and make it fairly expeditiously, I believe.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Okay, help me out with with Caleb Williams, there have
been some critical of he had one ask of his
veteran teammates to clean up after themselves. I don't know
if you've seen the Hard Knocks episode, how does that
if you're you're the general manager. How do you how
do you feel about that messaging?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, I think I think anytime you have a quarterback
that comes in and you're talking about you know, Caleb,
you're talking about someone like that who has a you know,
he has to get out the gate. Back to getting
out of the gate, he has to get out the
gate with a strong presence. He has to be respected.
I that's a tough one because that's you don't want
to be a nitpick leader. You know, you want to
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be a guy that's leading on the field. You want
to be a guy that people believe in and they
believe in quickly, right. And I think when you start
talking about things like that, Uh, that's tough for some
of the veterans to fall into line with.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Personally, I believe Thomas de mitchrof And by the way,
is his company is awesome. You got to check them out.
Uh it's called Suomer Sports. They have a great podcast.
The CEO Soomer Sports a sports analytics company and of
course longtime jen manager in the National Football League. Thomas,
thanks for joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Thanks. I appreciate it.
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I'm sorry. Okay. So what's happened basketball wise is the
United States has gone to switching everything and to this point,
Jokic hasn't made them pay enough inside and so Serbia's
offense has gone cold. Their defense has been okay. Steph
Curry's hit a bunch of shots and the Americans are
(27:48):
starting to get some rebounds. Joe Embie did travel with
a chance to cut that thing to one. One possession game.
Serbians have the ball and they're really reliant on shooting
threes with the American handle their face. They're not getting
open looks anymore because the Americans are switching everything, although
the Americans keep turning the basketball over.
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We got to that a little bit to start. We'll
throw some of that in the pod. We'll talk about
a little bit later this on this hour. For a
non football Monday. And when I say non football, I
mean there were no football games on Saturday or Sunday.
There is a lot to talk about. Rick Bucker's going
to join us at about one. I'm gonna play for
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you in fifteen minutes what Draymond Green had to say
about Steve Kurr's coaching staff and then let Rick tell
you what's really going on inside that that coaching staff.
We got the press to get to Monsa do a
awesome job of that. Hey, I want to do this
though every Monday. Okay, we have things that kind of
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like build up in frustration or things that we love
things that we we we just want to be memorable
for the weekend, and things that we hated this weekend.
Every Monday in this show we do a little love
and hate.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
What did you love?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
God? I love you? And what did you hate? These
Claire haters? So it's what you love from the weekend,
what you hate from the weekend. I will tell you
that I loved Noah Ale come back and winning the
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hundred meter dash. I just did because there's a guy
who called his shot. He talked to talk. He ended
up walking the walk and he won by the slightest
sliver of a head nod that you can poss to
win by. But the fact is he was I guess
in last out of the blocks. But what do you said?
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What is the old adage is not how you started,
it's how you finish. And man, that was an incredible race.
Just the difference, it's the I love Seinfeld And if
you love Seinfeld, you remember he had that stand up
act where he talked about the Olympics and he'd leaned
his head forward. He's like, greatest guy ever, lean his
head back. He's like never heard of him, right, greatest
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guy ever? Never heard of him? And that's what that was.
From the first place to the last place. They was
all within a split second. A terrible call of the
one hundred meter dash, but an unbelievable race. By the way,
here's the call on NBC Sports.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I said, Olympic gold medal waiting for somebody.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Who wants at the most. Now Thompson starts to wind up.
Charley's going with him.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
This is close, Joy, I guess gonna do it, just
showing Thompson is a gold medalist.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
We thought it was gonna take nine seven to win.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Guess what.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
He just ran nine point seven eight. It was a
lead at the take by Thompson. Visually, we think you
got it. They're working on the photo. It's these I
don't have to go to a photo finish to decide it.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, I mean, there's so many parts that are bad
about that call. It's a ten second race, and you
wasted three seconds saying it there's a gold medal on
the line, instead of describing any of the action. All right,
granted on TV you don't have to tell much of
the what, but didn't call any of the action and
then called the wrong sprinter winning it when it was
clearly a photo finish. Still love the race, Absolutely loved it.
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Do okay, let me go to you, Jason Stewart, somethme
you love.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
On the weekend, I went on a Sunday hike with
my super hot girlfriend Christina, and we put in a
good five miles, got the heart rate move. And as
I'm as I'm driving home from our local hike, I
tuned into Fox Sports Radio because when I'm not doing things,
I'm listening to Fox Sports Radio twenty four to seven,
(32:35):
and our very own Damn Buyer, who's on vacation right now,
was on with Carrie Rhodes and the subject of Michigan's
potential penalty for the Connor Stallions thing came up, and
this was Dan Byer. Former Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh
also accused of committing a violation for denying an NCAA
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request to view messages and records from his person.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
He missed three games, so that's good enough. Yeah, that's
good enough. That's oh, I'll let you finish your update.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
And then I went no, no, no, I mean when
I mean we all have things on our cell phone,
on our cell phones, I mean it's probably catastictures.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm sure you've got that fall. That's right.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I have my own crew.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
I know I'm completely biased as an Ohio State fan
and everybody else in college football heats Ohio State. But
the way that Michigan got such a free pass for
this garbage.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
I mean it is amazing.
Speaker 7 (33:31):
People are hey, oh look Jim Harbaugh's tattoo. Ah yeah,
Michigan National champs.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
They had the they had the cheap codes, they had
all of it. They could have.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
The Big Ten wimped out by giving them a three
game ban. They should have kicked him out of the entire.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
But the worst part about it is nobody cares. Like
if this was Alabama or if this was Ohio State,
people would care so much. But for some reason, no
one gives a flip and like, oh, Michigan, good job,
go Blue.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
What a joke.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I've spoken to the mass media class at Calls Day
Fullarton a handful of times, and inevitably I'm gonna I
answer a question about, you know, what does it take
or to be good in the business whatever, And I
say this one thing that a producer or trainer or
teacher can't teach or coach is passion and if you
don't have passion for many things in this business, you
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won't be good at your job. Every day you should
come at us with a passionate take on something, and
Dan Byer woke up yesterday with a passionate take on
Michigan football, and I very much respect that.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Monci.
Speaker 8 (34:46):
I'm kind of with you, Doug about the Olympics and
like that everyone's just watching, because I'm definitely just kind
of watching whatever is on in the Olympics. As we
talked about in the last hour, I'm one of those people.
And I think this maybe maybe happened Friday or like Thursday,
but watching Simone Biles back doing all the things gymnastics,
especially her floor routine, it just was so cool because
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visually you knew she was the better one.
Speaker 5 (35:12):
It is like it didn't matter what the score was.
Speaker 8 (35:13):
It was like her artistic, her athletic level on that
floor was above everyone else.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
And this is no disrespect to Soon Lee. I think
is Sony Lee is her name, and the Brazilian girl.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
It's just Simone Biles at twenty seven years old is
quite incredible to.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Watch and it doesn't seem like she she's stopping. But
it's crazy because she's twenty seven.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
So it's just watching her has been really cool, has
been really cool, and she won the vault also, like
she's just she It's just been really awesome to watch
her come back.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Clem, he's got nothing to say about it.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
This is on a Friday. You're welcome. This is from
Friday track and Field Star American track and Field Star
Grant Fisher. He won the bronze medal at the ten
thousand meter dash and it's hardly a dash. Ten thousand
meters is twenty five times around. That's a jog, but
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they are running, they're sprinting. This is a sprinting a
dash twenty five times around the track. And he's the
first American to meddle in this race in fifty six years.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I believe.
Speaker 9 (36:30):
I saw he almost took the silver but was beaten
out at the last second. Like look, we talked about
the Noah Lyles race being closed. He was really close
to getting that silver medal, but took bronze. Still great accomplishment.
Got eat my musica restarted there. Very cool because usually
you know, people are losing to people from you know, Ethiopia, Kenya, Uganda,
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these guys who are incredible fast long distance runners, but
very cool to see an American take a medal in
the ten thousand meters dash for the first time in
over half century. That's my love of the weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
M okay, any other loves you want to throw it down?
I mean I do love my guy Jackson. Holiday is
mash and now that he's back in the bigs, you
guys notice that.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yeah, that's good for him. Hit a grand slam, right, well.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Hit a grand slam, but then he's got that was
in his first home run. But since then he had
two hits yesterday and the Orioles big win. They're playing
great baseball, arguably best team in the sport. Right now,
let's get the things we hated from the weekend. Thanks,
we hearded Jason Stewart, you are a hater number one?
What do you got?
Speaker 6 (37:43):
I think it was last week we got into this
conversation about the Olympic boxer and her name is Aman Khalif. Yeah,
we had in this conversation about Aman Khalif last week
after she had one that fight where the other fighter
quit and I had two takeaways. First, you asked me,
(38:09):
what's the fix? And I said, it's pretty simple to me.
If you have a Y chromosome, you can't fight women.
It seems like a pretty good fix to me, and
I stand by that. Also, I said, you know what's
cool about this is that there's going to be a
billion people that watch this and react to it, and
(38:31):
maybe something will be done about it. Because it's largely
kind of a right wing topic in the United States.
Now it'll become a worldwide discussion and maybe things will
be done about it. Well, I was halfway right, and
this is what I hated about the weekend is the
discourse has become exactly what every single political topic becomes.
(38:55):
Everyone goes to their corners and talks crap about the
other people. Okay, so that if you think that women
should not be fighting against someone with a Y chromosome,
then you are a racist, you're a genderist, you're a sexist.
And then also if you think everybody should be able
to do anything against everybody regardless of your gender specification,
(39:19):
then you are farling leftist and you have no place
in our society. So again, I thought that there was
going to be a productive discourse due to all the
eyes to this, But it's just become a more magnifiedization, politicization, politicization,
polarization of politics. So that's been frustrating.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Well, I will start by pointing out, if you didn't
hear me Friday, I'll read it right, apologize for mislabeling
her as or maybe it's Thursday, mislabeling her as transgender.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
She is not.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
I mean, the issue run into with her is the
fact that while she has y chromosome, she quite obviously
was born a woman in terms of the body parts.
It's a hard one and if that's your hard and
fast rule, I find no fault with it. There are
others that have been allowed to compete with the same
kind of chromosomal issues whatever. But yeah, that's the problem.
(40:23):
The problem is there's never any ability to be discuss
so many people on the right who have come out
critical of men fighting women haven't actually admitted that she
is not a man with the exception of the chromosomes,
which again it's a hard one. They're still mislabeling her
as somebody who's transgender, which she is not. Sam things
(40:45):
you hate it for.
Speaker 9 (40:45):
The weekend, I will go with this Dion Sanders and
Colorado article, Let's kind of go over before this Athlon
Sports article came out detailing this toxic, unbuttoned locker room
at Colorado. Let's just kind of go over some of
(41:06):
the stuff that annoyed me about Deon Sanders' program at Colorado.
The Louis luggage comment rubbed me the wrong way right
off the start, bringing his Louis luggage with him. He's
bringing in his own guys. I get it, but it
just came off cocky and rubbed me the wrong way.
And how he treated the players left over on the
roster from the previous season at Colorado. I didn't like
(41:28):
that either. I heard he was kind of cold and
hard to communicate with and kind of on his phone
all the time. We're talking about coach Prime here. So
this was from what some players have said after they've
left the program. They ain't hard to find stuff, the
look at me sort of mentality, and now it's personal
thing that they'd always do before a game. We know
when they actually were winning games the beginning of the season.
Oh it's personal. Now every little slight it's personal. And
(41:50):
they actually used that as like a chant to break
a huddle. Now it's personal. The obligatory attendance of a
concert that Shador Sanders was performing in. Coach Prime said,
the entire team has to go and watch this concert,
which I think it was like a Little Wayne concert
who was headlining. So I'd go to that anyway. But
to force your entire team to go just to support
(42:10):
or quote unquote support Shaduur Sanders opening up for Little
Wayne is kind of lame to me. How about the
flashing of the watch Shadeur Sanders flashing his watch in
a meaningless game against like Arizona State, a team you
should have beat anyway. And yeah, they started out the
season I think three and zero, they finished four eight,
four and eight. That means they finished down the stretch
(42:30):
one in eight. All of that chest puffing would be
fine if you were eight and four, but she were terrible,
especially in the last half of the season. Now this
article comes out describing this toxic locker room, guns, fights, money,
there's just too much money floating around. I'm gonna say it,
Coach Prime Son's kind of come off pretty braddy. From
(42:52):
what I've heard and wrote, what I've read in these articles,
it's a toxic clock room. It's a far cry from
like kind of the program that I'm used to watching
at Iowa, which lately especially has been very They've been
very cohesive, unit, very all about the team. I'm not used.
I don't really root for that.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Rote. Well, here's the thing. Let me let me, let
me help you out. Let me help you out. Okay,
the Iowa thing is seen its classically uncool, but it's
really really successful. It gets a job zero with zero offense.
Last year none Yeah, inane science experiment. Right, it was done.
They still won ten games. Yeah, within a league quarterback
or some who were totally league quarterback, they won four games, right,
(43:31):
And so this is one. This is one of those. Okay,
this is one of those where cool does not mean
successful and uncool does not mean unsuccessful. It reminds me
of the Patriots versus other teams that were cool. So
I agree with you. Let's get to manci Monsey something
you hate it from the weekend.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, I wish I really have myself to blame.
Speaker 8 (43:51):
I keep going back to this bar that has like
these specialty drinks, but every time I go, I get
upset because I think the service is really mid And
this is I'm not asking for much.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
But we went back to the bar.
Speaker 8 (44:02):
It's called catch her in the rye and then they
have really delicious drinks. That's why I keep going back.
But so Sean and I sit at the bar and
there's it's not that busy, and the guy asks for
a drink and I do get a mixed drink, one
of their specialties. Sean just gets a beer and he's like, great,
I'll be right back with that, and then he starts
(44:23):
pulling apart like basil or like something. We're right in
front of him, and I'm like, listen, I understand that
my drink is a cocktail. How did you not turn
around pour that beer? Give it to Sean and then
be like and I'll get your drink in a second.
Little things like drive me nuts?
Speaker 5 (44:36):
But why did I go back?
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Because I like the damn drink. It's a coconut margarita
and I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (44:43):
But then I'm mad. I'm mad before I get the
freaking margarita. And then I enjoyed the margarita, and then
you know we're back next week. I'm like, I just
I know this is gonna be the service. So it's
just like, ah, how did you not turn around pour
the beer? Put it down? And then but right in
front of us started like, you know, tearing apart what.
Speaker 8 (45:00):
Leaves for a mohido or something for something, and I
was I wanted to be like, we are right in
front of you.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
And it was funny because he was like, oh, you
guys can go sit or just wait here. I'll have
your drinks. We didn't move.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
We're like, yeah, we're you just stay here. And I
really thought he was gonna turn around pour the beer.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Nope, Nope, that did not happen. Another bartender came and
then he was like, hey, can you get me a
beer in this? And I just was like, are we kidding?
But why do I go back? Because I like the
damn drink.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
I want a coconut margarita. Run.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Coconut margarita sounds amazing.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It's just so refreshing, and they're hard to come by.
You know, you get mango straw mary, hardly ever could
you find a coconut one. And this one is so
refreshing and so delicious to put a little bit of
a muddled like cucumber in it and.
Speaker 9 (45:47):
Flavors don't clash coconut and like that.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's so refre coconut, coconut lime works together. I just
didn't know coconut lime and uh tequila works together. Yeah,
castilla that I'm most interested by.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
It's and they're hard to come by something.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, I mean I'm off the clock here in that
sounds delicious. It is forty two minutes. I'm off the clock,
all right, I'll get I'll give you. I give you
something I hated and I'm intrigued by your your guys
view of it. I hate three on three basketball. I
(46:26):
mean it's not basketball.
Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's it's not like three on three is the thing
you do maybe for teaching some whatever. But it's like
a fake basketball, and I do do people know that
at the three on three in FEBA. There's all these
different like limitations where you really can't be a professional
basketball player definitely NBA player and play in the FOBA
three on three because you have to qualify and you
(46:50):
have to go through tournaments during the year, and so
it kind of eliminates any players. But they play with
a smaller ball than is normally played with. It weighs
the but it's a smaller ball. It's a very slightly
smaller basketball. So they play a sport court, which is
like something you can have in your driveway when you're
a kid. You know, if your parents are fairly wealthy,
(47:13):
you get a sport court, which I never understood. That
no disrepect to people who sell sport courts, but just
like are we against playing on cement anyway? They play
a small COVID of fake court. They don't play with
the real size basketball. They don't really allow for real basketball.
And oh yeah, by the way, you can't allow real
basketball players who played during a professional season to play
in it. And yet you receive the same gold medal
(47:37):
as the men's basketball team, Like the gold medals is
the gold medals? I want to go bet on what.
I just hate it.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's me venting.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
And that's love and hate for the weekend.
Host
Doug Gottlieb
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