August 12, 2024 • 37 mins
Doug talks about how Steph Curry took over the final moments of the Olympic gold medal game against France and explains why he deserved the MVP. Doug weighs in on a big admission by Aaron Rodgers. Doug welcomes FS1 NBA Analyst Ric Bucher onto the show to talk about the men's journey to winning the gold medal. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Big Deal, Little Deal or No Deal?".
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I guest hosted Cowherd Show and we threw Jason Mcintyron
and Jason McIntyre. H tried to tell me that Jason
Tatum is coming off a great NBA Final run because
I can't do it McIntyre imitation. I think Sam you can.
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But the premise of it was well, he led, He
led them in points and assists and rebounds, so he
must have had a good NBA Finals, right, and it
was actually, this is the easiest parallel to make, Okay, that, yeah,
I guess if you think he should have he had
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a good finals, then you think he should have been
the MVP. It's the same thing for Lebron James being
the MVP of the Olympic team Olympic Games because he
led him in points, assists, and rebounds. But here's the thing.
Jason Tatum shot the ball very poorly and didn't play
particularly well in most of the finals games. The one
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finals game where he did, he was actually a minus
thirty three. They were thirty three points worse than the
Mavericks when he was in despite the fact that statistically
he had his best game. And my point to that
would be that I thought Lebron James was really good
throughout the tournament. I thought he was solid. Right. But
in my lifetime, and I am forty eight years old,
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I have never seen any player in the sport of
basketball with a championship on the line hit four consecutive threes,
four consecutive threes to win a championship. And that's what happened.
And this is after after he hit but nine threes
in the semi finals. So the go to guy was
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Kevin Durant and Steph Curry and yet Lebron James because
of the statistics, and let's be honest, the name of
Lebron James, he wins the MVP. Do I think that
it's like we should march in the streets and protests. No,
but it's a lot of hey, eye rolling, right, we're
rolling our eyes. But I can't think of a more
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fun experience over the past three days than watching a
team USA come from seventeen down to beat Serbia and
then holding off France yesterday to win a gold medal.
That was awesome. Actually sorry last four days because they
didn't want it yesterday, they wanted the day before. My bad,
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My bad. Now there was a little bit of Twitter controversy,
and I'll end it right now because what I think
many people do on Twitter is they they use social
media for like they want to do gotcha's, Like if
you say something you misspeak, they'll do a what's it called?
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They'll take a picture of your tweet and then you
take it down and like, oh I gotcha, or they
do it just to you know, I I guess, just
to find something to be truly haters at And this
is the perfect example was I'm watching the game, and
I'm actually at the airport in Chicago watching the game,
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and Steph wasn't playing well. And yeah, some people don't
even understand how I would tweet or whatever. But there
are people even to today who will come at me
because they think somehow like, oh, you're ratio on Twitter.
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Let me kind of quickly explain here, Steph currk was
not playing well in the second half of the gold
medal game. Actually at times he wasn't playing well throughout
that game, and I put Steph Stephane helping kids loose
with the ball. He's a minus defensively, right, So then
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you get people going, you're just and then he makes
four consecutive threes. And what's really interesting is you just
it actually has a timestamp on it. You look at
it within the context of it. And this goes along
with being a coach, is that you're gonna have a
guy who you count on, you depend on, and he's
not playing well, but he's got he's got that strap
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as a shooter that you definitely want to believe in,
and so do you take him out? Thinking I got
to get somebody else in there who covers up for
the things that he doesn't do well, or do I
trust my guy? And I do wonder like I think
Steph Curry plays no matter who the coach is, but
I definitely think it's the least that he had is
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different because Steve Curry is the head coach, and Steve
has seen all the amazing things and he knows that
Steph Curry has undeniable self confidence that he believes the
next shot is going in, whether he missed the first
fifty or not. But he was to the point of like,
do we want to get him out of there? Are
we sure we under this? And then Banging hits one,
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and bang he hits one, and Banging hits one and
then the last one. It just defies any sort of
word that I have in my vest vest vernacular in
the English language. I just I can't describe that shot
because it seemed impossible. It seemed like he threw it
up for an alley up, like it wasn't trying to
make it, and then it goes in. It was incredible.
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So if you think I took an l you're an
idiot and you don't understand time and reacting and the
whole use of the device and what I've I always
enjoyed about Twitter and social media, but Twitter especially is
when you're watching a game, you feel like you're watching
a game with a group or a room full of people.
And if you just do verified people that follow you,
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that you respect, then you have like kind of a
running conversation. And my thought was like, and I didn't
even say, like, do you get him out? But I
was definitely thinking maybe Steve Kerr takes him out and
then all of a sudden he does that. Jay Sty,
where'd you watch that game on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I was up in my my sister's play some Big Bear.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
How Yeah, what was your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like watching that game?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
This is what This is what I thought. Okay, So,
like everybody else, I was amazed and drawn in by
the shots made and everything else. But it made me
think of this too, because I think you and I
have have been called this and there's a there's a
segment of the population that says out loud that Caitlyn
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Clark is only popular because she's white. Okay, I would
say this watching Steph Curry do what he did with
those last four shots, that is what Caitlyn Clark to
me this that's how she transcended her game. That's that
was the magic that everyone tunes in for. And I
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still tune into her lame WNBA games to see if
she does it again. She hasn't really done it in
the pros. But that was my takeaway is that the
whole concept of race and Caitlin Clark has nothing to
do with race. It has to do with when you
can make shots like that and be that magical and
have an attitude about it, you can transcend your sport,
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like Steph Curry did with the NBA and like she
did with college basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Sam, would you think when you're watching the men's gold medal.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Game, stars shining bright when the spotlight is on, I
mean the US and both men's and women's Olympic basketball
is Yes, they've gotten close to getting upset, but they've
gotten the job done and they're they're the gold standard,
no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, No, it was definitely a lot of fun, a
lot of fun to watch. I was buyer. Have you
ever seen a guy hit four straight threes to win
a championship like that?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
No, not that I can remember, And I thought it
was you know what I compared it to, Doug, was
the playoff in the NFL that we had a few
years ago, when it was the divisional playoffs, and every
game just got better. And it started with like the
Bengals upsetting Tennessee on our last second field goal, and
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then it was the forty nine Ers and Packers playing
in a crazy game, and then the Buccaneers and Rams
the next day, and then it ultimately ended with the
Chiefs and Bills and the thirteen seconds and just it
was an amazing weekend of football. But each game got better.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah. Yeah, And I felt that each three of Steph's
got better, Yes, like it was it was.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes, the uh what it called a difficulty the degree
of difficulty was a little bit better. And yes, they
got better. And then the last one, the last one
was like, are you kidney, which was was Chiefs Bills
last game, Yes, that weekend, Yes, which was in our
you gotta be kidding me, thirteen seconds and you can't
win the game. Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
That's like the feeling that I got that each one
just took it to the next level and got better
and better, which you know, made it that much better.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's very good. That parallel works for me, and so
does yours Jason as well, which is the If you
want to know why we're all so into the Caitlin
Clark thing, it's because she kind of plays the way
Steph plays. We feel that she plays the way Steph plays,
and we love watching Steph Curry. We just do you know,
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I mean, Kevin Rant is easily the greatest scorer of
this generation. It's not really close, right, the only reason,
like Lebron's just played longer and Katie's had numerous injuries,
right the achilles the foot going back to Oklahoma City.
But in terms of the ability to score, truly score
at three levels and do things like he's an absolute
freak of nature. Okay, but people don't gravitate towards him
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the way they do towards Steph. It's the same thing
with Lebron James. People love Lebron James and think some
people think he's the great his player ever. But there's
not the gravity of step Steph just has this thing
to where things that shouldn't be possible for a guy
his size are somehow possible, and it's it's the funnest
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thing to watch You're like, no, no, no, no, wait, what
what is he doing? He's winning, That's what he's doing.
So that was it was fun. It was fun. I
don't know who takes over in two thousand and twenty eight.
I think it's a really really hard job, really hard
job ads on our home soil, which will provide a
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lot of pressure. And I think we can all see
that we know what's coming from France, like they have
an barring injury and absolute freak of nature where he's
going to be really good. But in the meantime, good
weekend for USA basketball, the men especially were just that.
That was a fun watch.
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the one thing about watching the men's game on Saturday,
and I don't know if you guys had this experience,
but gosh does it energize you? How's it? It just
makes you feel good about sports in general. Rick Buker
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Com the way tire buying should be. So there's a
new book about Aaron Rodgers and it's written by a
guy who you know has has done this for several
other stars out there, if you will, Ian O'Connor, and
it's called Out of the Darkness. Oh I get out
of the Darkness. And he did Tom Brady's book and
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he's done others as well. He's really really good. And
a part of Out of the Darkness is Aaron Rodgers
feeling bad about lying about being immunized, right. And it's
interesting because outwardly Rogers can be defiant and say let
him lie, but obviously behind the scenes and some of
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it is it's a book, and I'm sure no book,
you're not going to get access ince and not that
it's an access granted by Aaron himself the whole time.
But it's going to be really hard to write a
book where you appear as defined as Aaron does publicly.
On the other hand, I also think that underneath it all,
you just you get kind of put in a defensive position,
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and you always have to be defensive. This is what
I mean. Have you ever had anybody go, why are
you so angry? Like I'm not angry? Like, no, you're
you're angry. I'm not angry. You actually get angry at
being told that you're angry. I feel like Aaron Rodgers,
who he got caught lying. No question, Aaron was trying
to outsmart the room and then he got caught and
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and he got exposed, and then he became defensive. But
now it's like now when he's asked about it, he
kind of has to be a little extra defensive because
one he's a contrarian, two he's a conspiracy theorist, and three, well,
when you're asked about how defensive or why you're so angry,
you're going to appear that way regards of where you
are or not. But if you've been waiting for the apology,
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you're probably gonna have to wait a little longer. Although
if you read the book, there's essentially an apology in there.
Let's welcome in. He's a man who's covered basketball for
over twenty years, and so he's seen all the inns,
all the outs, all the ups, all the downs, and
matter of fact, when he first started covering on the
national level was right about when, right about when Team
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USA lost. Going back to the four Olympics buke, how
would you characterize this Olympic gold metal run?
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Felt a little bit like a last dance, not to
skip ahead, But I think what impressed me the most
was that we had a group of guys come together,
and particularly some veteran guys who had to find a way,
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who were all go to guys and were put in
a situation where they had to find a way to
blend their abilities in terms of making big shots at
the end, and then also get it done by doing
the little things defensively, picking up ninety four or ninety
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two feet whatever the length of the international court is.
And had to do it in short order. I had
to do it with not having spent a whole lot
of time together. And so I was duly impressed by
what was done. And I think the biggest thing was
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all of the talk about who's playing and not playing,
roles and minutes and all of that. None of that
was generated by the team. It was four thousand miles
away by people who weren't for whatever reason, didn't have
anything better to talk about, and decided that they were
going to criticize what Steve Kerr was doing and how
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he was handling the team. And I would say, stepping back,
all of those people, ow Steve Kerr apology, because I
don't think he could have done this any better, and
to criticize him is to criticize him. Tyron Leu and
Eric Spolster three of the very best coaches that we
have in the NBA right now. So I didn't I
really didn't understand that whole approach, and in the end,
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I think that everything that Steve did was validated, and
I take great pleasure and pride in the fact that
this team ended up playing the way that it did,
and that all these guys parked their egos and found
a way to play the best collective basketball that they
could and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Really high level games as well. But those games, as
you know, aren't easy. So let's quickly put to bed
the Jason Tatum thing, like I honestly think a ton
was made of it here and his mom tweeting about
it was weird. But within the structure of the team,
was there any strife over it.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
No, none at all. I mean, it was understood. Look,
this is the part that I really don't get. I mean,
Jason was given in the run up games, he started
several games, he was part of the regular rotation, and
if you look at how the team played, it wasn't
so much how he played necessarily although he wasn't he
wasn't great, he was okay, But the collective, the way
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the team played, other guys didn't play as well as
they did when say Devin Booker or Derek White were
on the floor, and so it just became a matter
of which combinations are the most effective and most efficient.
And the idea that having just won a championship or
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having a resume, I think being a All NBA player,
like any of that should determine whether you're playing on
Team USA or what your role on Team USA is
going to be is just nonsensical. It doesn't, It doesn't.
It just doesn't make any sense, especially where we are.
I think there's still people that think that this is
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just a glorified All Star game and so you should
be able to get everybody in the game, everybody should
play all of that. That's not where we are in
this day and age. And again that's why I take
I have such respect for what KD Lebron, Steph ad
MVD and Devin Booker did because they were they were
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basically the six man rotation that Steve Kerr and the
coaching staff leaned on the most. And that's that's a
group that's not necessarily great defensively, doesn't necessarily have a
natural blend offensively, and yet they found a way to
get it done. But look, just look at the last
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two games. There weren't minutes to there weren't dead minutes,
inefficient minutes that could have been wasted and still expected
to win those games. And that's essentially what you're asking
in throwing a tatum out there just to get him minutes.
I mean, if you could do that, you might as
well play tyrees Haliburton too, and just if you lose. Hey,
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but everybody played. I guarantee you that's not what anybody wanted.
And if you don't think that that was at stake,
if they did take that approach, then you don't really
understand how competitive international basketball is for US as a
country in this day and age. The players understand that,
which is why there was no griping about what they
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were doing. They understand what they were up against. We
as a basketball nation, we need to catch up with
the people that are doing it because they know the
challenge that's in front of them.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I mean, look, I saw Lebron was obviously really good
and solid, but I mean the MVP the game, that's
seventeen threes in the last two games. He aid four
threes in a row to seal the gold medal game, Like,
what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I I have no idea, but I felt like there
was a drum beat even before the game started. That
this was, you know, Lebron's MVP to lose and h
and I also felt like there were in some ways
I felt like he was he was he was gunning
forward a little bit. He knew that the numbers as
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he as he does, you know, that's the stats were
going to be a factor. And nobody looks at turnovers
because I thought I thought some of his turnovers were
absolutely egregious defensively him.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One of the reasons that that that the French came
back in that four quarter was he in step Steff
didn't play a bunch of the fourth quarter when he
did he first came in, he was a couple of
turnovers bad evens, but Lebron a bunch of turnovers like
two in a row, matter of fact, help French parents
get back in it.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, no, I look, I again, there were some things
that Lebron did that I was impressed with. I thought
the job that he did defensively against Jokic, being willing
to take on that the first half of the fourth
quarter against Serbia, I thought that was impactful. Look, I
don't know if they win a gold without Lebron. I
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don't know if they win a Gold without KD. I
actually don't know if they win a gold without Joe
l Embiid or Anthony Davis, but I sure as he'll
know that they are not winning gold without duf Curry.
With the performance that he had against both Serbia and
I mean, he kept them in it, He kept them
within striking distance for the most part against Serbia, and
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then the way he closed France, I just again, I
don't And then on top of it, we have Kendrick
Perkins now saying that because Lebron want of Golden with MVP,
he's now better than Jordans. I mean, it's just some
of the conversations that we have in this day and
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age about the NBA and about basketball in general is
just comical from people who I would hope know better
because their depth of experience and knowledge should be greater
than we're just going to say. I mean, it just
feels like we're saying something to create something new or
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to say something new, and that to me is not
the benchmark of intelligent, insightful commentary about a game that
I love.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm with you, I'm with you on a multitude of levels.
Last thing, who's going to coach this is spolso going
to take the job in twenty eight because that does
not seem like I'll.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Tell you what, whoever takes it. And then you know,
I started out by by saying this because I can't help.
But look at who brought this home and you know
the talk about well, if they piss off Jason Tatum,
then is he gonn Is he going to play in
twenty twenty eight? And I'm looking around at Anthony Edwards
and all of the supposed young guns coming up, and
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it's four years away, so a lot can change. But
I don't see a nucleus of guys that I look
at and say we're going to win gold. In fact,
you know Victor woman Yama when he said hey, people
better watch out and they were like in the NBA
or internationally, he said both. I'm I'm with him one
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thousand percent on.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That, oh question. The only thing. The only thing about
France though, is some of their some of the dudes
have been around those guys age out, So he's going
to need some better young perimeter players to go with him.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Yes, but but guy, look if France is going to
pick up guys that are playing international basketball to add
to that equation. I think that it is easier to
take those guys who understand the international game. This is
the great This is probably our biggest issue, and it's
not just the talent, is that the NBA game is
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so different now from the international game that winning championships
in the NBA does not necessarily prepare you or uh
get you ready for winning the World Cup or or
gold in the Olympics. It's just a different game. So
Jason Tatum could win two of the next three championships
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and it doesn't necessarily make him any more prepared to
play in the international game or to lead a team
USA to gold. That's our that's our great issue. Unless
we start officiating the game different, unless we start playing
the game in a different way, we're we're still going
to be playing from behind when we go to the
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international competition.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I agree with you, but it was still an incredible
tournament and somehow we survived that thing. It was awesome.
Can you remember a guy hitting four straight threes to
win a title of any kind.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
It's not just that he hit four straight threes. The
threes that he hit everyone.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Got more and more difficult, and then the last one
was a joke.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Like that was just that was just insane. But there
no I to answer your question, No, I can't. I
can't remember a guy winning a championship forget threes, just
four shots in a row like that, where and the
opposition knows, this is the one guy we don't want
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taking the shot, and somehow he not only was able
to take it, but he but but he was making it.
It was I'm so I'm so happy for Steph because
I know what winning a goal meant to him, and
the joy and the way with which that team played,
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you know, Lebron, let's give him, give him credit, leader
of the team or whatever. But I've watched it for
you know, fifteen years now. The camaraderie and the belief
and the joy with which Death plays is infectious, and
it's it's a really unique ability that he has because
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usually scorers there's a certain selfishness to it that you know,
you kind of you get in line and you follow
that guy. But it's not always fun to play with
that type of player.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Death makes it fun, makes it makes it fun. He
does he does when you throw in threes and thirty
five ft with two hands in your face, that that's
pretty fun. When he's on your team much more he's
not funlies on your team than somebody else's team. The best.
Thanks for Jonas Bud my pleasure Dog.
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Speaker 6 (28:18):
Every day.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
At this time, we want to get through a bunch
of topics, have a little fun with it. We turn
over to our good friend Dan Byer and play game.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
What do you got there, Dan?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Dog?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
All right, a variety of topics to touch on, and
we bid farewell to the twenty twenty four Paris Games.
Big deal, a little deal of no deal. That the
US and China tied for the most golds with forty
does feel.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Like a big deal that we couldn't surpass China. Like
I know, there's lots of sports that we pretend to
not care about that they win, but they won enough
of them to tie us, So yeah, that feels like
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It was pointed out by our teammate Chris Purfett here
yesterday that American Shelby McEwan in the high jump ended
up tying and they had a jump off and he
lost and won silver. This happened that I think the
previous games where the two contestants both agreed to get
gold and so they both won golds. If that would
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have happened this time around, the US would have had
one more gold in one, but instead McEwan ended up
settling for silver. Yeah, pretty interesting, very interesting. Yes, big deal,
a little deal of no deal. Switching gears to something
that is in our I guess windshield, not our rearview mirror.
(29:57):
That's college football Georgia. Big deal, a little no deal
that the Bulldogs are number one in the preseason Top
twenty five pole.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Doucs, Doucs. It's a little deal.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's like, hey, you got to pick an SEC team.
You know, Alabama, we just don't know new coach. Hard
to tell. Now, LSU, you lose your Heisman Trophy, winter
a quarterback. Hard to tell. Texas brings back to their quarterback.
But how would they transition Oklahoma? Nobody knows what's going
to happen there. So you go with like your Kirby
Smart's been closed the last couple of years, and you know,
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now you're one year removed from being the back to
back recurring champions. I feel like a little deal.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Here's what's interesting. Here are the top nine in the
poll SEC Big ten, Big ten, SEC, SEC SEC Independent,
Big ten, Big ten. That's your top nine. Florida State
is ten from the ACC Notre Dame obviously, seventh is
the Independent. There but nine out of the eight of
(31:02):
the top nine and eight of the top ten from
the SEC and Big ten, which leads me to the
next one, Doug big deal, Little dealer, No deal, that
nine of the sixteen schools in the SEC are in
the top twenty five.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Little deal. They're just more invested, they spent more money,
they get better players, and lots of the players come
from that part of the country. Not a surprise. And
you know, look, we've been you and I have been
fans of schools and other leagues. Obviously Uohao State who
has that level of talent, although the overall league does
not and mean a Big twelve fan, but like anyone
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could admit, you just look at the numbers of NFL people.
Now it doesn't always equate. Last year you had all
those quarterbacks, some of who transferred from the SEC out
of the places that seem to equal out to playing field.
But it's not really surprised to me.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that the New York
Jets say they won't trade Hassan Reddick and will continue
to find him as he remains a hold up.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That feels like a big deal. Is they just traded
for him this offseason, right, It's not like he was
there a year and he's like, yeah, one new contract.
And when you traded for him, you felt like you
had the general feeling of where he would be contract wise.
That feels like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Should have gotten a deal done earlier. And what was
also interesting was that this news was reported at about
i'd say two thirty Eastern time, eleven thirty Pacific, and
within that hour the Jets had already released in craft
the statement yeah that was that, by the way, was
more than just one sentence like it was. It was
(32:34):
well thought out and what the Jets expect. I thought
that that was pretty interesting that the Jets ended up
kind of going on the offensive when it came to
a Reddick's contract situation.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It reads like a dad talking to a son or
you know, or a principal talking to a student, very
condescending and authoritative, like we're in charge here, Well they are.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, this is Joe Douglass. This is the statement from
the GM. We have informed Hassan that we will not
trade him, that he has expected to be here with
his teammates, and that he will continue to be fined
per the CBA if he does not report. Since the
trade discussions back in March, we have been clear, direct,
and consistent with our position. Our focus will remain on
(33:19):
the guys we have here as we prepare for the
regular season.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, we'll expect you in camp. I mean, like, look,
I love it, but we also know, like these deals
get done. The only reason you trained for a Hassan
Reddick is because he wants a contract elsewhere, and you
only usually take him unless you're going to give him
a contract, right.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, And you're exactly right, and the deal should have
gotten done way earlier. As he said. The other thing
about this, though, is I just wonder does it have
an effect on the Jets as a team, considering that
he wasn't there last year. He's just acquired this offseason,
Like there's not equity within the Jets organization. So I
(33:59):
don't know if it could even be considered a distraction
for the Jets considering that he's just not really been there.
You know, it'd be different like you know with Trent
Williams or Brandon a UK obviously are you's hanging out
and you know William's situation like those guys are in
trench there. I feel like it could cause waves. This
is just like, well, he's never really been there. What's
the difference to us? You know?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, but it's it looks bad. I think is the
is the part right?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Sure? But team chemistry wise, I don't think it really
no matters.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
No, I would agree there you're not gonna get Yeah,
there's no chemistry there. But it just it's weird optics
when everybody knows the deal of why you get a
guy in the trade and then I'll say, yeah, we're
not gonna pay him even if that the the contract
acts asks are ridiculous. It's it's just it's a weird look.
I don't think there's any other way to describe it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Big deal, a little deal, or no deal. That Red
Sox outfeel that Jared Duran was suspended two games for
using an anti gay slur during last night's game.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We'll talk about this a little bit more in the
in the on the pod, which of course you can
download the at the end of the show. It's an
hour long pod. Feels like a little deal. It's not
a good word. It's one that I've eliminated from my vernacular.
I'm not going to lack like back in the eighties
growing up, it wasn't something that kids said, you know,
(35:19):
probably even early on in the high school days. But
if you're looking for evolution in terms of thought, you're
not going to see it a ton in baseball. There's
a lot of ne androthal in baseball. But I like, look,
we've heard Kobe use that word as well.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Kobe was fined one hundred thousand dollars yep when he
said it back in twenty eleven. That was by David Stern, yep,
the late David Stern Big deal, little deal or no deal,
Doug that Matt Kocher finished the Windham Championship by himself
this morning with a par on the eighteenth hole.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So weird.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It is a very very weird situation, and it is
one that I think you know in the scenario of this,
and I'll let you say big deal, a little deal,
and no deal, But it's the further you get away
from it, it may not feel as strange as you
would think it is. I think, like we had the
initial reaction and the broadcast reaction of jim Nantz and
(36:19):
what is going on Coucher's situation and his background and
the story about him not being gracious with the tipping
of a of a caddy in a in a tournament
years back does not help couture in this scenario. But yeah,
just it's I think the further you get away from it,
when you consider his standing in his tour card and
(36:40):
where he is, that maybe it made sense for him
because not as many people were put out by it
as people would have thought.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, no, it was, but it was just an odd thing.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah what what maybe a little deal? Maybe jim Nantz.
Jim Nantz joked on the broadcast that I doubt we'll
be bringing you uh cootuers play tomorrow, and that's right,
Like I'm sure there the rules official because he actually
had to get a ruling from an official today from
his t shot. But he finished in like six minutes
(37:09):
of play and was started at eight o'clock and was
done at like eight oh six local time. And I'm
sure a few people had to show up and made it,
but for him, he's trying to keep his tour card. Anyway.
That's the press or excuse me, game time.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Game.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Game, This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
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I guest hosted Cowherd Show and we threw Jason Mcintyron
and Jason McIntyre. H tried to tell me that Jason
Tatum is coming off a great NBA Final run because
I can't do it McIntyre imitation. I think Sam you can.
(01:07):
But the premise of it was well, he led, He
led them in points and assists and rebounds, so he
must have had a good NBA Finals, right, and it
was actually, this is the easiest parallel to make, Okay, that, yeah,
I guess if you think he should have he had
(01:28):
a good finals, then you think he should have been
the MVP. It's the same thing for Lebron James being
the MVP of the Olympic team Olympic Games because he
led him in points, assists, and rebounds. But here's the thing.
Jason Tatum shot the ball very poorly and didn't play
particularly well in most of the finals games. The one
(01:51):
finals game where he did, he was actually a minus
thirty three. They were thirty three points worse than the
Mavericks when he was in despite the fact that statistically
he had his best game. And my point to that
would be that I thought Lebron James was really good
throughout the tournament. I thought he was solid. Right. But
in my lifetime, and I am forty eight years old,
(02:15):
I have never seen any player in the sport of
basketball with a championship on the line hit four consecutive threes,
four consecutive threes to win a championship. And that's what happened.
And this is after after he hit but nine threes
in the semi finals. So the go to guy was
(02:40):
Kevin Durant and Steph Curry and yet Lebron James because
of the statistics, and let's be honest, the name of
Lebron James, he wins the MVP. Do I think that
it's like we should march in the streets and protests. No,
but it's a lot of hey, eye rolling, right, we're
rolling our eyes. But I can't think of a more
(03:04):
fun experience over the past three days than watching a
team USA come from seventeen down to beat Serbia and
then holding off France yesterday to win a gold medal.
That was awesome. Actually sorry last four days because they
didn't want it yesterday, they wanted the day before. My bad,
(03:25):
My bad. Now there was a little bit of Twitter controversy,
and I'll end it right now because what I think
many people do on Twitter is they they use social
media for like they want to do gotcha's, Like if
you say something you misspeak, they'll do a what's it called?
(03:50):
They'll take a picture of your tweet and then you
take it down and like, oh I gotcha, or they
do it just to you know, I I guess, just
to find something to be truly haters at And this
is the perfect example was I'm watching the game, and
I'm actually at the airport in Chicago watching the game,
(04:15):
and Steph wasn't playing well. And yeah, some people don't
even understand how I would tweet or whatever. But there
are people even to today who will come at me
because they think somehow like, oh, you're ratio on Twitter.
(04:38):
Let me kind of quickly explain here, Steph currk was
not playing well in the second half of the gold
medal game. Actually at times he wasn't playing well throughout
that game, and I put Steph Stephane helping kids loose
with the ball. He's a minus defensively, right, So then
(04:58):
you get people going, you're just and then he makes
four consecutive threes. And what's really interesting is you just
it actually has a timestamp on it. You look at
it within the context of it. And this goes along
with being a coach, is that you're gonna have a
guy who you count on, you depend on, and he's
not playing well, but he's got he's got that strap
(05:22):
as a shooter that you definitely want to believe in,
and so do you take him out? Thinking I got
to get somebody else in there who covers up for
the things that he doesn't do well, or do I
trust my guy? And I do wonder like I think
Steph Curry plays no matter who the coach is, but
I definitely think it's the least that he had is
(05:43):
different because Steve Curry is the head coach, and Steve
has seen all the amazing things and he knows that
Steph Curry has undeniable self confidence that he believes the
next shot is going in, whether he missed the first
fifty or not. But he was to the point of like,
do we want to get him out of there? Are
we sure we under this? And then Banging hits one,
(06:04):
and bang he hits one, and Banging hits one and
then the last one. It just defies any sort of
word that I have in my vest vest vernacular in
the English language. I just I can't describe that shot
because it seemed impossible. It seemed like he threw it
up for an alley up, like it wasn't trying to
make it, and then it goes in. It was incredible.
(06:26):
So if you think I took an l you're an
idiot and you don't understand time and reacting and the
whole use of the device and what I've I always
enjoyed about Twitter and social media, but Twitter especially is
when you're watching a game, you feel like you're watching
a game with a group or a room full of people.
And if you just do verified people that follow you,
(06:48):
that you respect, then you have like kind of a
running conversation. And my thought was like, and I didn't
even say, like, do you get him out? But I
was definitely thinking maybe Steve Kerr takes him out and
then all of a sudden he does that. Jay Sty,
where'd you watch that game on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
I was up in my my sister's play some Big Bear.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
How Yeah, what was your experience.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like watching that game?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
This is what This is what I thought. Okay, So,
like everybody else, I was amazed and drawn in by
the shots made and everything else. But it made me
think of this too, because I think you and I
have have been called this and there's a there's a
segment of the population that says out loud that Caitlyn
(07:38):
Clark is only popular because she's white. Okay, I would
say this watching Steph Curry do what he did with
those last four shots, that is what Caitlyn Clark to
me this that's how she transcended her game. That's that
was the magic that everyone tunes in for. And I
(07:59):
still tune into her lame WNBA games to see if
she does it again. She hasn't really done it in
the pros. But that was my takeaway is that the
whole concept of race and Caitlin Clark has nothing to
do with race. It has to do with when you
can make shots like that and be that magical and
have an attitude about it, you can transcend your sport,
(08:22):
like Steph Curry did with the NBA and like she
did with college basketball.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Sam, would you think when you're watching the men's gold medal.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Game, stars shining bright when the spotlight is on, I
mean the US and both men's and women's Olympic basketball
is Yes, they've gotten close to getting upset, but they've
gotten the job done and they're they're the gold standard,
no pun intended.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, No, it was definitely a lot of fun, a
lot of fun to watch. I was buyer. Have you
ever seen a guy hit four straight threes to win
a championship like that?
Speaker 4 (09:02):
No, not that I can remember, And I thought it
was you know what I compared it to, Doug, was
the playoff in the NFL that we had a few
years ago, when it was the divisional playoffs, and every
game just got better. And it started with like the
Bengals upsetting Tennessee on our last second field goal, and
(09:23):
then it was the forty nine Ers and Packers playing
in a crazy game, and then the Buccaneers and Rams
the next day, and then it ultimately ended with the
Chiefs and Bills and the thirteen seconds and just it
was an amazing weekend of football. But each game got better.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah. Yeah, And I felt that each three of Steph's
got better, Yes, like it was it was.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yes, the uh what it called a difficulty the degree
of difficulty was a little bit better. And yes, they
got better. And then the last one, the last one
was like, are you kidney, which was was Chiefs Bills
last game, Yes, that weekend, Yes, which was in our
you gotta be kidding me, thirteen seconds and you can't
win the game. Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
That's like the feeling that I got that each one
just took it to the next level and got better
and better, which you know, made it that much better.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's very good. That parallel works for me, and so
does yours Jason as well, which is the If you
want to know why we're all so into the Caitlin
Clark thing, it's because she kind of plays the way
Steph plays. We feel that she plays the way Steph plays,
and we love watching Steph Curry. We just do you know,
(10:31):
I mean, Kevin Rant is easily the greatest scorer of
this generation. It's not really close, right, the only reason,
like Lebron's just played longer and Katie's had numerous injuries,
right the achilles the foot going back to Oklahoma City.
But in terms of the ability to score, truly score
at three levels and do things like he's an absolute
freak of nature. Okay, but people don't gravitate towards him
(10:53):
the way they do towards Steph. It's the same thing
with Lebron James. People love Lebron James and think some
people think he's the great his player ever. But there's
not the gravity of step Steph just has this thing
to where things that shouldn't be possible for a guy
his size are somehow possible, and it's it's the funnest
(11:14):
thing to watch You're like, no, no, no, no, wait, what
what is he doing? He's winning, That's what he's doing.
So that was it was fun. It was fun. I
don't know who takes over in two thousand and twenty eight.
I think it's a really really hard job, really hard
job ads on our home soil, which will provide a
(11:35):
lot of pressure. And I think we can all see
that we know what's coming from France, like they have
an barring injury and absolute freak of nature where he's
going to be really good. But in the meantime, good
weekend for USA basketball, the men especially were just that.
That was a fun watch.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
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It's The dou Godlib Show, Fox Sports Radio. You know,
the one thing about watching the men's game on Saturday,
and I don't know if you guys had this experience,
but gosh does it energize you? How's it? It just
makes you feel good about sports in general. Rick Buker
(12:29):
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Com the way tire buying should be. So there's a
new book about Aaron Rodgers and it's written by a
guy who you know has has done this for several
other stars out there, if you will, Ian O'Connor, and
it's called Out of the Darkness. Oh I get out
of the Darkness. And he did Tom Brady's book and
(13:35):
he's done others as well. He's really really good. And
a part of Out of the Darkness is Aaron Rodgers
feeling bad about lying about being immunized, right. And it's
interesting because outwardly Rogers can be defiant and say let
him lie, but obviously behind the scenes and some of
(13:59):
it is it's a book, and I'm sure no book,
you're not going to get access ince and not that
it's an access granted by Aaron himself the whole time.
But it's going to be really hard to write a
book where you appear as defined as Aaron does publicly.
On the other hand, I also think that underneath it all,
you just you get kind of put in a defensive position,
(14:21):
and you always have to be defensive. This is what
I mean. Have you ever had anybody go, why are
you so angry? Like I'm not angry? Like, no, you're
you're angry. I'm not angry. You actually get angry at
being told that you're angry. I feel like Aaron Rodgers,
who he got caught lying. No question, Aaron was trying
to outsmart the room and then he got caught and
(14:44):
and he got exposed, and then he became defensive. But
now it's like now when he's asked about it, he
kind of has to be a little extra defensive because
one he's a contrarian, two he's a conspiracy theorist, and three, well,
when you're asked about how defensive or why you're so angry,
you're going to appear that way regards of where you
are or not. But if you've been waiting for the apology,
(15:07):
you're probably gonna have to wait a little longer. Although
if you read the book, there's essentially an apology in there.
Let's welcome in. He's a man who's covered basketball for
over twenty years, and so he's seen all the inns,
all the outs, all the ups, all the downs, and
matter of fact, when he first started covering on the
national level was right about when, right about when Team
(15:30):
USA lost. Going back to the four Olympics buke, how
would you characterize this Olympic gold metal run?
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Felt a little bit like a last dance, not to
skip ahead, But I think what impressed me the most
was that we had a group of guys come together,
and particularly some veteran guys who had to find a way,
(16:02):
who were all go to guys and were put in
a situation where they had to find a way to
blend their abilities in terms of making big shots at
the end, and then also get it done by doing
the little things defensively, picking up ninety four or ninety
(16:23):
two feet whatever the length of the international court is.
And had to do it in short order. I had
to do it with not having spent a whole lot
of time together. And so I was duly impressed by
what was done. And I think the biggest thing was
(16:43):
all of the talk about who's playing and not playing,
roles and minutes and all of that. None of that
was generated by the team. It was four thousand miles
away by people who weren't for whatever reason, didn't have
anything better to talk about, and decided that they were
going to criticize what Steve Kerr was doing and how
(17:07):
he was handling the team. And I would say, stepping back,
all of those people, ow Steve Kerr apology, because I
don't think he could have done this any better, and
to criticize him is to criticize him. Tyron Leu and
Eric Spolster three of the very best coaches that we
have in the NBA right now. So I didn't I
really didn't understand that whole approach, and in the end,
(17:32):
I think that everything that Steve did was validated, and
I take great pleasure and pride in the fact that
this team ended up playing the way that it did,
and that all these guys parked their egos and found
a way to play the best collective basketball that they
could and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Really high level games as well. But those games, as
you know, aren't easy. So let's quickly put to bed
the Jason Tatum thing, like I honestly think a ton
was made of it here and his mom tweeting about
it was weird. But within the structure of the team,
was there any strife over it.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
No, none at all. I mean, it was understood. Look,
this is the part that I really don't get. I mean,
Jason was given in the run up games, he started
several games, he was part of the regular rotation, and
if you look at how the team played, it wasn't
so much how he played necessarily although he wasn't he
wasn't great, he was okay, But the collective, the way
(18:38):
the team played, other guys didn't play as well as
they did when say Devin Booker or Derek White were
on the floor, and so it just became a matter
of which combinations are the most effective and most efficient.
And the idea that having just won a championship or
(18:58):
having a resume, I think being a All NBA player,
like any of that should determine whether you're playing on
Team USA or what your role on Team USA is
going to be is just nonsensical. It doesn't, It doesn't.
It just doesn't make any sense, especially where we are.
I think there's still people that think that this is
(19:20):
just a glorified All Star game and so you should
be able to get everybody in the game, everybody should
play all of that. That's not where we are in
this day and age. And again that's why I take
I have such respect for what KD Lebron, Steph ad
MVD and Devin Booker did because they were they were
(19:42):
basically the six man rotation that Steve Kerr and the
coaching staff leaned on the most. And that's that's a
group that's not necessarily great defensively, doesn't necessarily have a
natural blend offensively, and yet they found a way to
get it done. But look, just look at the last
(20:03):
two games. There weren't minutes to there weren't dead minutes,
inefficient minutes that could have been wasted and still expected
to win those games. And that's essentially what you're asking
in throwing a tatum out there just to get him minutes.
I mean, if you could do that, you might as
well play tyrees Haliburton too, and just if you lose. Hey,
(20:25):
but everybody played. I guarantee you that's not what anybody wanted.
And if you don't think that that was at stake,
if they did take that approach, then you don't really
understand how competitive international basketball is for US as a
country in this day and age. The players understand that,
which is why there was no griping about what they
(20:47):
were doing. They understand what they were up against. We
as a basketball nation, we need to catch up with
the people that are doing it because they know the
challenge that's in front of them.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I mean, look, I saw Lebron was obviously really good
and solid, but I mean the MVP the game, that's
seventeen threes in the last two games. He aid four
threes in a row to seal the gold medal game, Like,
what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I I have no idea, but I felt like there
was a drum beat even before the game started. That
this was, you know, Lebron's MVP to lose and h
and I also felt like there were in some ways
I felt like he was he was he was gunning
forward a little bit. He knew that the numbers as
(21:40):
he as he does, you know, that's the stats were
going to be a factor. And nobody looks at turnovers
because I thought I thought some of his turnovers were
absolutely egregious defensively him.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One of the reasons that that that the French came
back in that four quarter was he in step Steff
didn't play a bunch of the fourth quarter when he
did he first came in, he was a couple of
turnovers bad evens, but Lebron a bunch of turnovers like
two in a row, matter of fact, help French parents
get back in it.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah, no, I look, I again, there were some things
that Lebron did that I was impressed with. I thought
the job that he did defensively against Jokic, being willing
to take on that the first half of the fourth
quarter against Serbia, I thought that was impactful. Look, I
don't know if they win a gold without Lebron. I
(22:30):
don't know if they win a Gold without KD. I
actually don't know if they win a gold without Joe
l Embiid or Anthony Davis, but I sure as he'll
know that they are not winning gold without duf Curry.
With the performance that he had against both Serbia and
I mean, he kept them in it, He kept them
within striking distance for the most part against Serbia, and
(22:52):
then the way he closed France, I just again, I
don't And then on top of it, we have Kendrick
Perkins now saying that because Lebron want of Golden with MVP,
he's now better than Jordans. I mean, it's just some
of the conversations that we have in this day and
(23:13):
age about the NBA and about basketball in general is
just comical from people who I would hope know better
because their depth of experience and knowledge should be greater
than we're just going to say. I mean, it just
feels like we're saying something to create something new or
(23:35):
to say something new, and that to me is not
the benchmark of intelligent, insightful commentary about a game that
I love.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I'm with you, I'm with you on a multitude of levels.
Last thing, who's going to coach this is spolso going
to take the job in twenty eight because that does
not seem like I'll.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Tell you what, whoever takes it. And then you know,
I started out by by saying this because I can't help.
But look at who brought this home and you know
the talk about well, if they piss off Jason Tatum,
then is he gonn Is he going to play in
twenty twenty eight? And I'm looking around at Anthony Edwards
and all of the supposed young guns coming up, and
(24:19):
it's four years away, so a lot can change. But
I don't see a nucleus of guys that I look
at and say we're going to win gold. In fact,
you know Victor woman Yama when he said hey, people
better watch out and they were like in the NBA
or internationally, he said both. I'm I'm with him one
(24:40):
thousand percent on.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That, oh question. The only thing. The only thing about
France though, is some of their some of the dudes
have been around those guys age out, So he's going
to need some better young perimeter players to go with him.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Yes, but but guy, look if France is going to
pick up guys that are playing international basketball to add
to that equation. I think that it is easier to
take those guys who understand the international game. This is
the great This is probably our biggest issue, and it's
not just the talent, is that the NBA game is
(25:17):
so different now from the international game that winning championships
in the NBA does not necessarily prepare you or uh
get you ready for winning the World Cup or or
gold in the Olympics. It's just a different game. So
Jason Tatum could win two of the next three championships
(25:39):
and it doesn't necessarily make him any more prepared to
play in the international game or to lead a team
USA to gold. That's our that's our great issue. Unless
we start officiating the game different, unless we start playing
the game in a different way, we're we're still going
to be playing from behind when we go to the
(26:02):
international competition.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I agree with you, but it was still an incredible
tournament and somehow we survived that thing. It was awesome.
Can you remember a guy hitting four straight threes to
win a title of any kind.
Speaker 6 (26:16):
It's not just that he hit four straight threes. The
threes that he hit everyone.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Got more and more difficult, and then the last one
was a joke.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Like that was just that was just insane. But there
no I to answer your question, No, I can't. I
can't remember a guy winning a championship forget threes, just
four shots in a row like that, where and the
opposition knows, this is the one guy we don't want
(26:47):
taking the shot, and somehow he not only was able
to take it, but he but but he was making it.
It was I'm so I'm so happy for Steph because
I know what winning a goal meant to him, and
the joy and the way with which that team played,
(27:09):
you know, Lebron, let's give him, give him credit, leader
of the team or whatever. But I've watched it for
you know, fifteen years now. The camaraderie and the belief
and the joy with which Death plays is infectious, and
it's it's a really unique ability that he has because
(27:31):
usually scorers there's a certain selfishness to it that you know,
you kind of you get in line and you follow
that guy. But it's not always fun to play with
that type of player.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Death makes it fun, makes it makes it fun. He
does he does when you throw in threes and thirty
five ft with two hands in your face, that that's
pretty fun. When he's on your team much more he's
not funlies on your team than somebody else's team. The best.
Thanks for Jonas Bud my pleasure Dog.
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Speaker 1 (28:19):
At this time, we want to get through a bunch
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Speaker 5 (28:28):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
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Speaker 4 (28:42):
Dog?
Speaker 5 (28:42):
The game today is big deal, little deal, no deal?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
All right, a variety of topics to touch on, and
we bid farewell to the twenty twenty four Paris Games.
Big deal, a little deal of no deal. That the
US and China tied for the most golds with forty
does feel.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Like a big deal that we couldn't surpass China. Like
I know, there's lots of sports that we pretend to
not care about that they win, but they won enough
of them to tie us, So yeah, that feels like
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
It was pointed out by our teammate Chris Purfett here
yesterday that American Shelby McEwan in the high jump ended
up tying and they had a jump off and he
lost and won silver. This happened that I think the
previous games where the two contestants both agreed to get
gold and so they both won golds. If that would
(29:35):
have happened this time around, the US would have had
one more gold in one, but instead McEwan ended up
settling for silver. Yeah, pretty interesting, very interesting. Yes, big deal,
a little deal of no deal. Switching gears to something
that is in our I guess windshield, not our rearview mirror.
(29:57):
That's college football Georgia. Big deal, a little no deal
that the Bulldogs are number one in the preseason Top
twenty five pole.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Doucs, Doucs. It's a little deal.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's like, hey, you got to pick an SEC team.
You know, Alabama, we just don't know new coach. Hard
to tell. Now, LSU, you lose your Heisman Trophy, winter
a quarterback. Hard to tell. Texas brings back to their quarterback.
But how would they transition Oklahoma? Nobody knows what's going
to happen there. So you go with like your Kirby
Smart's been closed the last couple of years, and you know,
(30:32):
now you're one year removed from being the back to
back recurring champions. I feel like a little deal.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Here's what's interesting. Here are the top nine in the
poll SEC Big ten, Big ten, SEC, SEC SEC Independent,
Big ten, Big ten. That's your top nine. Florida State
is ten from the ACC Notre Dame obviously, seventh is
the Independent. There but nine out of the eight of
(31:02):
the top nine and eight of the top ten from
the SEC and Big ten, which leads me to the
next one, Doug big deal, Little dealer, No deal, that
nine of the sixteen schools in the SEC are in
the top twenty five.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Little deal. They're just more invested, they spent more money,
they get better players, and lots of the players come
from that part of the country. Not a surprise. And
you know, look, we've been you and I have been
fans of schools and other leagues. Obviously Uohao State who
has that level of talent, although the overall league does
not and mean a Big twelve fan, but like anyone
(31:36):
could admit, you just look at the numbers of NFL people.
Now it doesn't always equate. Last year you had all
those quarterbacks, some of who transferred from the SEC out
of the places that seem to equal out to playing field.
But it's not really surprised to me.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Big deal, little dealer, no deal that the New York
Jets say they won't trade Hassan Reddick and will continue
to find him as he remains a hold up.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
That feels like a big deal. Is they just traded
for him this offseason, right, It's not like he was
there a year and he's like, yeah, one new contract.
And when you traded for him, you felt like you
had the general feeling of where he would be contract wise.
That feels like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Should have gotten a deal done earlier. And what was
also interesting was that this news was reported at about
i'd say two thirty Eastern time, eleven thirty Pacific, and
within that hour the Jets had already released in craft
the statement yeah that was that, by the way, was
more than just one sentence like it was. It was
(32:34):
well thought out and what the Jets expect. I thought
that that was pretty interesting that the Jets ended up
kind of going on the offensive when it came to
a Reddick's contract situation.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It reads like a dad talking to a son or
you know, or a principal talking to a student, very
condescending and authoritative, like we're in charge here, Well they are.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, this is Joe Douglass. This is the statement from
the GM. We have informed Hassan that we will not
trade him, that he has expected to be here with
his teammates, and that he will continue to be fined
per the CBA if he does not report. Since the
trade discussions back in March, we have been clear, direct,
and consistent with our position. Our focus will remain on
(33:19):
the guys we have here as we prepare for the
regular season.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, we'll expect you in camp. I mean, like, look,
I love it, but we also know, like these deals
get done. The only reason you trained for a Hassan
Reddick is because he wants a contract elsewhere, and you
only usually take him unless you're going to give him
a contract, right.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, And you're exactly right, and the deal should have
gotten done way earlier. As he said. The other thing
about this, though, is I just wonder does it have
an effect on the Jets as a team, considering that
he wasn't there last year. He's just acquired this offseason,
Like there's not equity within the Jets organization. So I
(33:59):
don't know if it could even be considered a distraction
for the Jets considering that he's just not really been there.
You know, it'd be different like you know with Trent
Williams or Brandon a UK obviously are you's hanging out
and you know William's situation like those guys are in
trench there. I feel like it could cause waves. This
is just like, well, he's never really been there. What's
the difference to us? You know?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, but it's it looks bad. I think is the
is the part right?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Sure? But team chemistry wise, I don't think it really
no matters.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
No, I would agree there you're not gonna get Yeah,
there's no chemistry there. But it just it's weird optics
when everybody knows the deal of why you get a
guy in the trade and then I'll say, yeah, we're
not gonna pay him even if that the the contract
acts asks are ridiculous. It's it's just it's a weird look.
I don't think there's any other way to describe it.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Big deal, a little deal, or no deal. That Red
Sox outfeel that Jared Duran was suspended two games for
using an anti gay slur during last night's game.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
We'll talk about this a little bit more in the
in the on the pod, which of course you can
download the at the end of the show. It's an
hour long pod. Feels like a little deal. It's not
a good word. It's one that I've eliminated from my vernacular.
I'm not going to lack like back in the eighties
growing up, it wasn't something that kids said, you know,
(35:19):
probably even early on in the high school days. But
if you're looking for evolution in terms of thought, you're
not going to see it a ton in baseball. There's
a lot of ne androthal in baseball. But I like, look,
we've heard Kobe use that word as well.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Kobe was fined one hundred thousand dollars yep when he
said it back in twenty eleven. That was by David Stern, yep,
the late David Stern Big deal, little deal or no deal,
Doug that Matt Kocher finished the Windham Championship by himself
this morning with a par on the eighteenth hole.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
So weird.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It is a very very weird situation, and it is
one that I think you know in the scenario of this,
and I'll let you say big deal, a little deal,
and no deal, But it's the further you get away
from it, it may not feel as strange as you
would think it is. I think, like we had the
initial reaction and the broadcast reaction of jim Nantz and
(36:19):
what is going on Coucher's situation and his background and
the story about him not being gracious with the tipping
of a of a caddy in a in a tournament
years back does not help couture in this scenario. But yeah,
just it's I think the further you get away from it,
when you consider his standing in his tour card and
(36:40):
where he is, that maybe it made sense for him
because not as many people were put out by it
as people would have thought.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, no, it was, but it was just an odd thing.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah what what maybe a little deal? Maybe jim Nantz.
Jim Nantz joked on the broadcast that I doubt we'll
be bringing you uh cootuers play tomorrow, and that's right,
Like I'm sure there the rules official because he actually
had to get a ruling from an official today from
his t shot. But he finished in like six minutes
(37:09):
of play and was started at eight o'clock and was
done at like eight oh six local time. And I'm
sure a few people had to show up and made it,
but for him, he's trying to keep his tour card. Anyway.
That's the press or excuse me, game time.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Game.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Game, This is game time on The Doug Gottlieb Show.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Here's going to do coming up next? We do it
every Monday. It's called Love and Hate. What did we
love from the weekend? What we hate from the weekend?
And easy. Jason Sewart does not get to go first,
just saying hate because he's fact that dude who finds
lots of stuff to hate. But you can send us
your thoughts at Gottlieb Show, Instagram and Twitter as well.
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